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 No.298755[Reply]

I'm not from first world and every time I read mental health and despaircore discourse I see how people "try multiple therapists". How the fuck do you afford them? Don't they charge literal hundreds of dollars per session? And people do these for months, years. How are NEETs and jobless useless wizards supposed to "just get therapy"? For a few years I fantasized about how this magic therapy is cure-all and could fix me, but after asking people "what do you actually do in therapy" people give incredibly vague answers and either show no progress or they never really had this kind of problems i'm having in the first place. More to that, there are places like therapyabuse forum or other spaces which blatantly say that these sessions with expensive psychologists don't do anything at all at best, and are actively resentful of you if you're a failed person at worst.

How come so much of this mental health "please get help" stuff hinges on therapy stuff? I still feel like I'm missing something.
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 No.298811

The whole push for therapy as the silver bullet feels like something that's been popularized by well off redditors. They can afford to go from shrink to shrink because they were born well off enough to have the resources for it. Their mental issues don't inhibit them from going so it's really that easy.

"go to le therapy" is also a sort of passive aggressive phrase where you're told you're the problem with the pretence of care. If you push back they'll claim you're entitled and don't want to get better while purposefully ignoring your point. If they were really honest they'd just respond with "not my problem" because that's what it really is.

It's also telling that we have more shrinks, more research and more people going to therapy than ever before yet peoples mental seems to get worse and worse. Almost like we live in a world that's squeezing us for all the money and attention we've got.

 No.298828

I get the points of critique you mention but here in first world it literally costs zero '0' money to go to a therapist, to extend therapy or to hop to the next one. It's part of health care insurance system.

 No.298829

>>298828
Where? I lived in two different "highly developed" countries and they both would not come close to covering the full cost. For a 170 euro appointment the healthcare system would pay like 60 euros maybe, and that's under certain conditions like having a diagnosis etc

 No.298830

>>298829
german

 No.298847

>>298802
A Spanish succubus. I like the notion. This is very inspiring.



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 No.297444[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Can you drive?
Can you parallel park?
Can you survive without parallel parking where you live?
If you don't drive then how do you get by in the country you live in?
Do you feel unmanly if you can't/don't drive?
How does one cope knowing that foids can drive while you don't?
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 No.298132

>>298119
I used to drive for a living, if you do the same shit every day it becomes like second nature, just do the same shit over and over again and your subconscious will automatically do it for you eventually

 No.298135

>>298129
I primarily drive two cars, a hatchback and a sedan. And I can't gauge distances in the rear using just side mirrors in both of them, so I thought that the problem is with me, the thing is both of my cars don't have a rear view camera or sensors, so I have to do it only visually, I can judge distances in the rear using side mirrors only when the disparity in distances are huge.

Like when I have to reverse let's say towards a bush/kerb in a parking lot, I generally stop 3.5feet away from the bush/kerb looking in the side mirror, any closer than that and I can't judge the distances accurately, and when there is a situation like this, the rear windshield is essentially useless and turning back doesn't help either.

And this is the problem that I described here >>298119 while making a u-turn and >>298014 while parallel parking.

>>298130
Well doing that in the case of the u-turn situation that I describe, the red car's hood dips below my door windows and the C-pillar get's in the way of view. And in the case of parallel parking the kerb is also below the car's door's windows so you have to rely on mirrors.

And the thing is, I believe that the parallel parking situation can't even be solved by rear cameras and sensors because it only helps to aid you in how far away you're from the car in the rear but doesn't tell you when to turn in such that you don't end up too far away from the kerb or on the kerb.

>>298131
I have the same problems but live in a city so there is no option for me but to learn.

>>298132
The things is I have been driving a lot for past 4 years, and I have gotten better at judging distances, like for example you can't see the tip of the hood/bonnet but now I know where it is because of experience over the last 4 years, but when it comes to the issues that I described, would you mind taking a read and suggesting some sort of remedy?Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.298739

Cars way back in 2010s used to have auto-park feature, which could parallel park for you, why can't the government mandate it when so many people fail in parallel parking? And why didn't manufacturers work on it

It's like despite the bettering technologies, better cameras, better chips, faster hz displays, and everything else car manufacturers especially outside of China had rarely caught up.

We already had the technology to auto parallel park in 2010s (even in some low budget cars) by now it should've been even in all low budget cars and mandated like how US government mandated rear cameras, they should also mandate 6 sensors on the bumpers instead of usual 4.

I swear to god we already have the solutions to so many of these problems already but for some reason government and automakers refuse to put technology in cars.

Auto park would've solved 99% of the problems with parallel parking. But normies don't push for it for some reason.

 No.298782

>>298739
I have a car with rear cam and 4 sensors and it doesn't judge the corners like >>298119 you would unfortunately have to rely on mirror but this is such an edge case that doesn't happen in America where I live although I live in a small town. Or maybe that's just my car. Rear cams are mandated in the US by the way :)

 No.298806

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>>298782
Indeed and this is the cause of all my problems, if I could just somehow manage to judge the distance in the red, using side mirrors, I believe I would be able to parallel park as well. But the reversing thing while taking a u-turn and the car behind is the hardest thing, I wonder why has no car maker every worked for a solution to this yet.

I have even tried practicing for this, by trying to back up in front of a fence, I could do so with some accuracy but when I try to back up towards a car, it's like I can't judge distance either I stop too far away or I straight up bump into them. And I have asked a lot of people about this and their response while honest but infuriating is "we can just judge it" and I am like how can you and why can't I?


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 No.297332[Reply]

We all are not having sex. But at least you guys possess the ability to have sex. I on the other hand know that I won't be able to cum during sex because I have OCD, tight foreskin and tight frenulum.

This is actively ruining my fantasy life. I can't daydream properly because of this. It's like a one handed man daydreaming of being two handed which simply can't happen so even in his daydreams he's one handed.

What can I do? There is no solution for OCD. And no money to fix tight foreskin and frenulum breve.
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 No.298497

>>297332
Use betametasone and patience. Skin elasticity can be developed.

the solution I know for OCD is fuck it up so badly you cannot even know how to follow back the steps, or doing different stuff on purpose.

Betametasone.

Be sure you don't desperate for the coom like >>297335 our way is the opposite, or else!

>OCD: they need to do certain things (like rituals or checks) to feel "safe" or to prevent something bad from happening

When you do not identify your fears while also not developing real defenses against them, you may suffer this. Do not relax, identify the fear and go to cut it down. buy a fucking gun if necessary.

 No.298528

>>298497
I will try using this medication, I hope it won't be hard to buy. I also can't coom without holding my penis' head either. Which renders my fleshlight useless. It really does upset me that I bought this fleshlight and it's off no use.

 No.298638

>>298528
Remember it is a helper. Skin elasticity should be exercised along with it.

 No.298757

>And no money to fix tight foreskin and frenulum breve.

have you worked before? you can try gettin a job if it bothers you that much. You need to take a first step, then after you get enough money for your surgery you can quit your job

 No.298791

>>298757
Getting a job as a third worlder to manage finances in a way that your parents don't know is very hard. Nonetheless I am still in college I will try my best to get a job.



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 No.298774[Reply]

Im working on a wiz\neet inspired ethical code. Not a full philosophy, but a set of strict guidelines to morally abide by. thus far, they be:
1)Do every effort to not breed any life. Do every effort to not kill any life.
(so throwing scraps of organic food, or using a sewage system, breeds sort of micro-organisms, bacteria..it's haram. Using insecticides? it's haram, literally kills insects.
2)Do every effort to not contribute to economy of sectors who'd hate you(truckers hate wizzies. If you buy something bought to the store by truck, it's haram. Ditto for Farmers, etc), to not labor\work, to leech and mooch, as much as possible, from the State.
3)Master lucid dreaming, so your Qualia can experience anything without having to pay for it IRL. DO apply rules 1) and 2), even to your "scenarios" in the lucid dream. Ie; you don't buy a supercar, it's gifted to you.
4)Only do things which would make both your 5yo self, and your 80yo self, filled with admiration and fond rememberable.
5)remember constantly, your own mortality. have finishing your Bucket List as the daily, and long-term prioritised struggle

 No.298775

>it's haram.
"Wizlam" poster detected, thread discarded



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 No.296966[Reply]

>graduate high school
>go on indeed.com
>be qualified for literally 0 jobs
>all the shit manual labour jobs you ARE qualified for have thousands of applicants and are effectively blackvoids
>okay you realize now you need to go to college to get anywhere
>go to college
>figure out you need to make connections to get a job
>you have to be literally top 1% turbonormie with ZERO flaws ZERO mental illnesses ZERO doubt ALL confidence NEVER went through any major obstacle in life had a HEALTHY LOVING life to make the necessary connections for someone to like you and get you a job
>realize you're not that person
>you graduate
>you have tons of debt for a degree, doesn't matter if it's STEM, that isn't earning you money because you didn't make the right connections
>you still don't qualify for any jobs
>skilled trades are just as nepotistic if not more
>even if you DO miracolously get some shit job, it won't be enough to pay your bills or anything
>this is the reality of 80% of young westerners
>this is the reality of 100% of Wizards
So please tell me again is there even any point in getting a degree anymore if you lack connections?
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 No.298744

>>298740
Web dev isn't a valuable skill to have, so employers don't value it. Anything you can self-learn in 10 years an Indian slum dweller working for 10x cheaper than you can do 10x better and faster.

Now C++ is a different beast. Most people with degrees in Computer Science suck hard at real programming which requires a very highly functioning mind in many aspects.
If you are self learned in C++ and have a good portfolio to back it up, you'll be snapped up at a high salary point with no job interview, no degree needed, just start working immediately.

There are only a couple thousand good programmers alive in most countries. Almost all are self-taught high IQ individuals.

 No.298745

>>298741
>come to /dep/
>Go in to thread about guys who are desperate to even and a job after spending tens of thousands of dollars on useless educations
>tell everyone how you were given lots of free money and will keep getting that money and how you travel and be not depressed
>kill self

 No.298747

>>298734
>you forgetting about trades? You don't need a college degree to lay patio stones or mount a TV to a wall. Cut this defeatist blackpilling, there are plenty of well-paying, self-relying jobs for men that don't require 6 years and $90,000 of college
It's all physical shit that I can't do.

 No.298751

>>298747
>It's all physical shit that I can't do.
yes you can.

 No.298754

>>298744
>Anything you can self-learn in 10 years an Indian slum dweller working for 10x cheaper than you can do 10x better and faster.
Man India must be such a amazing place, when the average Indian is this hardworking and self-sacrificing. How come they arn't a superpower yet?
>Web dev isn't a valuable skill to have, so employers don't value it.
sure if they are happy with ready made templates and wordpress sites. if you want to make anything unique you need web devs.
Or is this your way of saying the "no diploma" thing was just and excuse to not hire my friend?

Yes if you self-study software development of course you provide more valued. if that isn't your hobby or what you are passionate about, it becomes hard for you to motive yourself to study it. not to mention the entry barrier is higher, if you are a brainlet probability, statistics, linear algebra and discrete math will be an absolute nightmare. which is required to become one of those good programmers you mention. otherwise you a relegated to a code monkey, in which companies will also be super picky about. will probably also want a uni grad since they think they are of higher quality than a non-uni code monkey.



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 No.296358[Reply]

it makes me sad I can't create things I like. I always procrastinate and I always did d
my whole life so far. It happened at very young age; I didn't want to go to school nor learn at home or do my homework. I was always playing flash games on the computer or play ps2 or nintendo DS and after that ps3. I didn't lile myself for that and itt continues nowdays. I don't know why I proscratinate. I hate doing things, in fact I was never used to that. I've never learn doing things by myself, always mom or dad did things for me, my mom did the cooking and my dad told me to do sport. I never listened, I just stayed at home in front of my tv. oh yeah the TV…watching programs in my bedroom all night long…it was comfy, at night you weren't bothered by others because I was kind of alone (my brother was sleeping) in front of the tv with no remorse of doing so because it was comfy and calm.
I think it's because of tv, video games and internet (smartphone addiction came way late).
when I discovered 4chan, I knew there will be no turning back: I totally "internetized" now. I'm am completly focuses on internet everyday. now it's not 4chan but wizchan I use and for a good reason: no succubi wanted me, maybe because I was too poor…all these factors made me a procrastinate person. when you're poor there'snt so much to do besode doing your home work and going to sport. no music lesson, or traveling during vacancy (just stay at home).
I know it's my fault and I know why it's because I didn't had MY things. I wish I had a computer just for me.
Anyway, in few years, I'll be 30 with no-skill wizard because it will be too late.
I wanted to know how to draw (but when I tried my drawings were so unmatch I gave up)
I wanted to create a video game (I tried some with rpg maker but I didn't made shit, just few maps and some events)
I wanted to do a lot of sport
(I wish I wasn't shy, which killed the social part of my life; so no sport because fear of others)
music playing (piano guitar drums, all I wanted to do was those but no money, family too poor)
science
(I really like science but am a brainlet)
technology and computers and coding
(I tried python, all I did was the hello world)
in fact I'm waiting a miracle to happen to me so I can do things and not procrastinating but I know it will not come: I don't leave my house, so no miracle for me.
Nowdays all I do is posting in wizchan and watch youtube vPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.296504

>>296503
But loving myself is gay, since that means loving a man as a man.

 No.296693

>>296465
Basically all of this describes me, including the tooth pain. (not OP)

 No.298712

>>296360
good advice. thanks.

 No.298722

>>296360
I would say that optimism is a trap for procraatination. You have ruined your life, go from there.

 No.298723

>>298722
*I have also ruined my life though not as much as you. Im in uni studying cs and Im failing exams or moving them because I first start learning from 1 week away and have 0 disvipline. Somehow Im just assuming every time I still have time to study and just waste my time on pc, and then I fail worse and worse every semester. Yesterday I cried about how Ive ruined my life, about how I give in to these instincts telling me to do the wrong thing again. All Im doing is running away from my peoblems. In the end of my road Im going to be a sad old loser dependant the state and I dont want this. I cant afford not to support my mom whos already so stressed out with work… I want to work so badly but since I have a very lacking resume, bad grades no personal projects I dont really have the confidence to apply anywherre, and I cant wagejob because Im disabled a bit. Since Ive already ruined my life to the point I will fail uni if I dont do anything right this moment I have no choice but to try and struggle right now…



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 No.293806[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

How old are you? What brought you to where you are? What prevents you from changing?
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 No.298450

I'm 29 years old, I came to the first iteration of this site when I was 16 because I wanted to talk to other losers like me in a place that banned discussion of sex and relationships, because I just never cared about that stuff and my problems are bigger than something so stupid like that. I sort of have changed, I stopped using imageboards or any social media other than one to one communication with other neet peers and now I play a lot of videogames and watch a lot of movies and TV series and it's a lot better than when I'd waste away talking to random anonymous people that hate me all day. I'd recommend the same for any younger people here that just want to be a peaceful neet that doesn't care about the whole rat race. There are just too many people online, emboldened by some sense of anonymity, that wanna drag you down or rope you into something stupid, it's really not worth interacting with people who seem to just be going with whatever the popular meme culture is right now, a wizneet does his own thing, and most importantly he has fun

 No.298642

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>>293806
>How old are you?
33
>What brought you to where you are?
alcoholism and low IQ
>What prevents you from changing?
i quit drinking, but idk, ive been trying a lot of things to get ahead financially but nothing seems to work out. my younger brother retired several years ago from crypto and i've been trying to get him to show me the ropes and how to make money doing that, but he is sort of gatekeeping all his knowledge from me just out of spite, for whatever reason, he doesn't want me to succeed. he pretends to like me but i've heard him making fun of me to his friends when he thought i wasn't listening. ive tried to do a lot of nice things for him in hopes that he will help me make money, but he always makes excuses about helping me.
despite all that, ive been trying to make my own crypto altcoins, but nothing has been successful. i make a nice website, deploy the coin, shill it on twitter, 4chan, and reddit, but no one ever seems to be interested in the coins i make.
i've been working on a game for a couple years now also, but it feels like such a monumental task sometimes that i just put it off for weeks. i have to make a bunch of sprite sheets and stuff and i just dont feel like doing it lately.
also spent awhile trying to edit videos for streamers to upload on youtube but that didnt work out either. just feels like nothing i do ever works out no matter how much work i put in.
all i know is that i refuse to go back to wageslaving. i am not cut out for wageslaving. i dont care if it means i have to leech off my parents or end up homeless or whatever, i am not going to go back to wageslaving ever again.

 No.298681

>>298425
>Do you feel like a grown adult?
No, I feel and live the same way as I did when I was 15. Only difference is I go to work instead of school. But then I didn't act my age when I was 15, I was much less emotional than my peers, and more composed, stoical. Even now, when I look at guys even older than me at work, like 30-40, they seem like emotional children, easily excitable over the smallest things. Only now they have better social skills and are more able to manipulate others. Oh and they fuck. Is that adulthood then?

 No.298695

>>298448
Your post is pretty much textbook highly functioning autist.

Don't give up on life, there are plenty of ways you can make a difference that doesn't involve having a wife and kids.

 No.298715

>>298695
>highly functioning autist.
*Lowly functioning neurotypical


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 No.298694[Reply]

Any other wizzes gay/bi? I don't mean to talk about wanting relationships, I mean do any wizzes ever get picked out by normies because of your weak/feminine nature? What do you think about that retarded lgbt movement?

 No.298696

What a stupid thread, even if I say so as a straight wizard. Being gay doesn't mean being physically weak or feminine.

There are tons of jacked and badass gay people like Fred Rosser.

 No.298705

report this thread

 No.298713

>>298694
>Any other wizzes gay/bi?
Yes, many are.

>ever get picked out by normies because of your weak/feminine nature?

I dont interact with people and im not feminine, so no

>What do you think about that retarded lgbt movement?

I hate it. Gay but i hate gay culture. I cant stand gender ideology. 99% of gay men are feminine leftists that specify their pronouns, only 2% of people are gay at all, and im not attracted to 99% of people, most faggots are dramatic mentally ill psychos (including myself) as a result of growing up as emotionally abused outcasts, so i am not playing that game.

>>298705
>report this thread
based on which rule?

 No.298714

It's not officially a rule on its own, but admitting to being a homosexual counts as a rule 5 violation because 13 years of Wizardchan history has proven that doing so only causes the community grief. Wizchan is a board for adult men with no interest in at least discussing relationships and their sexual habits, if any. Allowing open homosexuals to post their attraction to adult men can only degrade the comfort of everyone else posting here. Additionally, every prominent homosexual poster of the past has ended up making not only a name for themselves with their flagrant behavior, but have also scared normal users away with their fetishistic posting.



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 No.298656[Reply]

everytime I start to think of my bleak future I end up thinking about suicide to give my self a sense of hope that the bad things i worry about can be prevented or stopped when they happen, at this point I want to end it even if it's through painful means, because the collective suffering of me living a standard lifespan will most likely outweight the the amount of suffering I would feel by CTB'ng painfully.
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 No.298669

>>298668
So the new consciousness has different conditions - body, random life events, genes, family, state, criminal rate, material and psychological characteristics and so on. Suicide then is like a gambling. You could end up in a much better condition than you are right now but it could also be much worse. It needs careful observation if it's really worth the risk. That's why I would say if you can live a comfy life you better should because the alternative could be much worse thus it's better to rest for a bit before you take the new shot a life.

 No.298670

>>298668
That's not you, that's a different self. Or otherwise, you're arguing that there is only one conscious self in the universe and we are also enjoying life as elon musk right now. Either way, there are multiple selves or points of view and it is better to snuff out the unpleasant ones early through suicide. Your message is philosophically incoherent

 No.298673

>>298670
Doesn't matter if it's a different self. Each self has to endure the mode of being conscious, that is identical. No need for a universal consciousness. I am not Musk and don't experience life the same way as he does. But we are both conscious beings.
I said that you shouldn't rope easily because your new condition of being conscious could be much worse than the one you have now. If it is too unpleasant then go ahead and make a restart though.

 No.298700

>>298673
Like the poster above said, the gamble of suicide making or not making sense only depends on your luck during the current round.

If you were born deformed, short, poor and in chronic pain since age 1, into a third world country, it only makes sense to get access to a handgun and reroll your character completely as soon as you can.

If you were born into a first world country, there are still plenty of conditions which can make reality unbearable and rerolling an alluring prospect even if you are materially ok.
For example being born non-neurotypical. Most non-NT have extremely low life satisfaction and are practically cut off from employment, dating, having a family, even having friends who aren't from online games.
That's why autists for one have a massive suicide rate compared to neurotypicals. They want to reroll.

Humans at the core are animals who want to do animal stuff. Cut them away from most of society long enough and ostracize them long enough, most lose the will to continue a life for the sake of more lonely video game marathons and sleeping.

 No.298701

don't let yourself be deluded by this suicide shill, anons >>298700



 No.297753[Reply]

How do you guys fight anhedonia? Do you have any experience with it?
I basically don't feel pleasure from anything except food, maybe. Stories, games, art don't really touch me at all and it sucks because I remember how much I loved escapism before and how it brought excitement, joy, sadness etc. Now it's all blank. I want to bring emotions back, want to bring excitement, joy, even sweet sadness would do honestly, I miss being profoundly sad.

Have any of you managed to revert to your older non-anhedonic self?
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 No.298524

i stopped giving a shit and it magically went away. now it doesnt matter to me what i do, whether i do something, whether i enjoy anything. i just am.

 No.298688

>How do you guys fight anhedonia?
Stop trying to fix yourself.
It's just a wrong idea in itself.

Life sucks, accept it.

 No.298689

A change of environment and daily motions is a good place to start. Consider how a prisoner lives and compare your own life to his. Is it much different? Are you able to go walk among nature and observe the world? Life itself is the best stimulus for emotion and staying indoors following the same routine is going to stifle your feelings. High stress hormones and numbness hormones such as cortisol and serotonin should be flushed out before they take over and eat away at your white matter. Shocking your system in to a surviving state by fasting like another anon suggested is a cheap way to force your brain to start firing on all cylinders again. Then return with a healthy diet; no excess sugars.

>>298688
t. Faggot who wants OP and other wizards to remain numb and unfulfilled

Life is cool, accept it.

 No.298691

>>298689
Fasting means not eating? How long should I do this?

 No.298692

>>298689
thinking about prisoners is a good idea. I think it also helps to watch documentaries about prisons or films set in prisons. Or likewise for people with severe medical conditions or severe obesity. It helps to show what we should appreciate about our lives.



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