No.297787
>>297783>i'm 27, i live with my parents, i don't have a jobsame as you
>i would have wanted to move out 5 years ago, when i had a ton of ambitions, but my fuckin overprotective mother didn't give me a hint of freedom. same as you
>i used to be good at history and wanted to move in that direction,same as you
>and now i'm NEET who spends all my free time on the internet and goes to the store once a week.unironically same as you
weird are you me?
No.297807
>>297783I relate to the section about overly-protective parents lashing at you years later for HOW they raised you and blaming you as if it's your fault, impossible to reason with them.
No.297808
>>297807i hate it when they accuse me of my lack of independence. like, mom, u didn't give me the opportunity to be independent.
No.297811
>its too dangerous to go ride your bike outside with the other kids, 10 year old anon
No.297812
>>297808they tell you "be a man, do not blame other people for your problems"
but parenting is the foundtion of everything, it can make a sky-ground difference in the kind of person you end up becoming in the future.
No.298490
>>297783It be breeders who agreed to bring more flesh to this rigged game, feel no pity for them. Blame yourself not a bit, and take fortune as it comes.
Even if they let you, outcomes are still very probably to be utter shit. Times are getting worse, you see.
Gen Z and millenials are generally fucked.
>>297807Because they are not be reasoned with, just say incoherent bullshit and be even weirder. They already know it's their fault. Boomer society of taxcuckery and wageslavery and mortgages and author's rights, it's all shitted.
Do not accept their denial about it.
>>297812Insist on their fault. Be cheeky, do not beg for understanding, that's lethal to do against normies. We do not see how evil they are, but they are.
No.300440
Kill her
No.300444
I'm in the same boat as the other wizzies here. People don't realize how severely crippling it is to grow up with controlling and/or overprotective parents. It makes it nearly impossible to become a functioning adult, yet the world (and even the parents who put us in this position in the first place) looks at us as if it's entirely our fault and we simply didn't try hard enough. I'm 32, soon to be 33, and I still live with my parents and have spent my adult life flip-flopping between NEETing and low-wage work. I will never be successful in anything because even to this day my parents try to hold my hand in almost everything, yet they still wonder why I'm not an independent, successful adult. The only 'future' I really have to look forward to is either suicide or eventual homelessness when my parents die, and regardless of how my life ends, everyone will blame me and me alone for my sorry lot in life. Despite my parents' (mostly my father's) controlling and abusive form of 'parenting', I will always been seen as the failure and the bad guy in the end. It's a truly infuriating, yet tiresome, way to exist.
No.300445
>>29778331 turning 32 this year. I'm doing both work and college & I still live with my parents. They keep pushing me to try to get an apartment near campus or something, but there's none that will work in my budget. At this point I'm just kicking back until something happens, whenever that is…
No.300460
I'm 28 and yeah all the memes are true for me too, never had a job and generally can't function properly in society. Like I don't know how to handle official stuff. How to travel from my home to somewhere I've never been before…I get it you are supposed to use google map or something to get a clue where you are going and which bus to take, etc but I never traveled further than the next town with public transportation AND alone. I'm just a clumsy ass who would mess something up on the way, like take the wrong bus or getting off at the wrong place or shit like that. And I don't know how to pay bills either, I never had to do the shopping alone, I just don't know anything about practical life in general. My family acts surprised I turned out to be this way, living at home at 28 and never having a gf and all that…My brother and sister who are older than me are rather functional, I guess my parents actually cared about shit still when they raised them, with me? Just go sit and watch TV, kid.
BUT. I can't really hate them. I mean living the independent life just sucks ass from what I've seen. It's not really that fun as most normals claim it is. To tell the truth, I noticed normalfags ENVY ME usually and not the other way around. Even if they don't say it I noticed that normals envy me because I don't have to do anything, my parents basically do everything for me and I can live the careless "kid" life still, enjoying life to the fullest. I can be a lazy NEET, I can just watch movies, read books, exercise or play games all day. I don't have to care about bills or the shopping or anything else. So whatever, man. It's not like I hate this life. As far as existence is concerned I consider my life to be good. Of course it will suck big time when my parents are gone or become too old but hey, who cares? Let's just have fun until then, I stopped caring about the future long ago.
No.300580
>>300460I was the same until 21 when I went to uni, realised I'm all by myself and went into MMORPG mode, completely dissociated and soulless. It's not like I didn't learn everything, from cooking to cleaning, from internet guides, so it feels like a game. I'm sure junkies with several years of substance abuse under their belt are less derealised and depersonalised than I am. I'm past 25, even held a job for a few months yet life still feels like fucking Runescape where I read guides so I know what to do next. I also stopped forming memories past the age of 21, all my dreams consist of memories from my teenage years mostly, and the media I consumed then. I can draw a detailed map of my hometown but I have no idea what the city I moved to for studies is like past the 3-4 streets that lead to university, former job, train station and the only supermarket I go to.
>normalfags ENVY ME usually and not the other way aroundNormalfags are full of negativity as always, they envy you yet they belittle people like you. Make your pick, faggots!
No.300588
>>300580>all my dreams consist of memories from my teenage years mostlySame here mostly. I always dream about high school years and I will be 30 soon. Guess it's because I rarely ever go outside since I started NEETing at around 20. It's like time froze for me at that moment. I still think of myself mentally as some teenager or early 20s guy but no, I'm a grown ass man. I see all the young kids when I go to mass on sundays, like 14-16 years old kids and I feel like I'm in their age group but then always have to remind myself that I'm an old guy compared to them. You only start to feel your age truly when you see a completely new generation that is unrelated to you.
And yeah, maybe I can do stuff like you did, on "autopilot" mode when my parents are gone. My sister is living with us too but she doesn't like to work either. Maybe she will marry some rich asshole and I can just leech off them in the future, living the wizpimp life. Or maybe I will just go full schizo and live on the streets.
No.300605
there is nothing on the otherside, you fight for yearrs to get the job, house and money and it still fucking suck still alone
No.300606
>>300605crab. Having security, solitude, and the necessity only to do something you enjoy in order to sustain is the best it can get. If being alone somehow makes that not worth it, then you are truly a crab.
No.300624
>>300606>Somebody who has another opinion than me is instantly a crab. My opinion is the absolute truth & anybody who differs from it must be having an ulterior motiveI hate you
No.300625
>>300624He's lamenting not having a female to have sex with. He says even if he had no financial struggles or health issues, his life would still suck because he's alone. That's kind crab dipped in hot butter.
No.300626
>>300624well what is your motive?
if you don't want to be alone, then who do you want as your company?
No.300664
>>300606and do what ? video game suck, porn is boring and books get old
No.300665
>>297783It's all fun and games until your parents kick the bucket.
No.300668
>>300664All the 3 things you mentioned are infinite wells of excitement. You just probably watch, play and read the same things all over again.
No.300669
>>300668>All the 3 things you mentioned are infinite wells of excitementeverybody who says this is full of so much shit they could revitalize every farm field in the world and solve the top soil crisis.
No.300671
>>300669>I enjoy [thing]<Well I don't enjoy [thing], so you must be LYUING about enjoying [thing]! Mental illness
No.300672
>>300664Get a hobby you fucking dumbshit. Create something new. Take something that exists and improve upon it it. Contribute to a well of existing art. Cater to your cultural interests.
No.300673
>>300671What the hell
<tfw been on wizchan since 2014
<never ever realized you could use a third color by reverse meme arrowing
>mfw no face No.300674
>>300671>>300673Fuck my life then
<You did something here hmmm lets see [nigger] jew [nigger]
No.300677
>>300671>>300671well you just showed you can't read so I doubt you enjoy books much.
No.300678
>>297783I have experienced this at 24 now, my mother fucked me good she failed my homeschooling (Often tormented me for her shitty teaching calling me an idiot and yelling.) and never let me try for independence yet. (Mocks me for not cooking but yells at me when I fucking try.)
By the pandemic I knew I was screwed out of ever having an adult life. And you know the worst part she can't even be apathetic to me. She bullies me every day now. She yells at me for no reason calls me lazy my generation worthless and hates me when I do all I can for her, chores around the house. Recently she tormented me all day for not worshipping Unca' Donald's choices (I do not even hate him I just call what I see.)
Its like she wants me to snap one these days so she has an excuse to kick me out. I think thats where this is going really. I do not know what happens then.
No.300684
>>300669Why? Because you don't happen to enjoy these things anymore? Maybe the problem is with you and not with these things. Cure your existential crisis first and then try whether you are actually interested in anything or not.
No.300687
>>300684it mystifies me how normalfags all post the same near identical posts on every chan I've ever visited.
No.300688
>>300687Why do you assume everyone who derives some sort of pleasure from existence is a normalfag? Like, what is the connection here?
No.300699
>>300678You should ambush your mom (on a wow server)
No.300701
>>297783A lot of long term NEETs were raised by an overprotective parent. Weirdly enough it's my father who's a bit too overprotective in my life.
My mom just treat me like a normal parents but since she has less power in the family I stay a NEET.
No.300715
Our ages and circumstances are somewhat similar. But I also fell ill with endless illness and became a hardcore Benzos abuser so I don't even have a choice to keep living cause if u stóp u seize grand mal and psychosis for months on my ten times over maximum dose. Bo money means death.
No.300717
>>300715how are you still alive, you found a way to get more benzos?
No.300722
>>300717Yeah I always had to do insane things to pull out money out of the hat for my feelgood doc to write me scripts and then buy them. But I finally ran out of loans I can take things I could sell and money I can be given. So very soon it's gonna be over. Been spamming this site with similar posts for half a year probably im like a cockroach or a rat but everybody has a lifespan.
No.300740
>>300722You're at least one of the more interesting individuals for me here. Yes, people online often despise drug addiction, but personally I've had my experience with it and I always can relate to the addicts that are able to reflect their situation and that are not those 'know it all better kind of addicts'. To me drugs have been the only thing that in my adult life came close to giving me that feeling of belonging and warmth and acceptance and not being alienated by reality which otherwise I'm never able to feel. I don't get the pathetic part of it but it's so prevalent online that I fear admitting that I liked taking drugs. Nothing else can give me the sense that it's okay to exist, that life is not a complete shit show. And still drugs are dangerous and will suck your soul out. It's very ambiguous.
No.300805
You haven't looked for a job, the problem is you, not your parents, and so are most of the people on this site.
No.300811
>>300805why are you like the way you are? the causal chain didnt start with you
No.300824
>>300805Work is disgraceful and for the losers so I would rather avoid it, thank you.
>>300811Let's not make this into another free will vs determinism thread, we already had that discussion millions of times and it is always fucking stupid in the end, just like most of philosophy is. It doesn't matter who is at fault. If someone doesn't want to work then that's his choice and he has the right to do it. There is nothing wrong with being a NEET.
No.300827
>>300824>Work is disgraceful and for the losersI feel like if I got a job I'd be a bigger loser. I'm actually hanging on to what little amounts of coolness I have by staying NEET.
No.301808
Having overprotective and more specifically coddling parents is one of the most cruel fates that can ever befall you.
You hear the success stories about "I had an alcoholic/abusive father growing up that told me I could never amount to anything, but I sure showed him!" all the time. I have yet to hear a success story from a coddled only child. I'm not sure they exist.
The only thing that matters in life is whether you have a fire in your eyes. It doesn't matter if you're attractive, ugly, smart, dumb, rich, poor. None of it matters. What matters if whether you have a fire in your eyes.
Growing up with overbearing parents kills your life spark. It doesn't ruin your life. It kills your instinct to improve your life, which is the closest thing you can get to hell on earth. There is no way out, because you don't care enough about life in general to climb your way back out. It's a cosmic checkmate.
Not only that, but there's no one with a shred of sympathy for "the intelligent but lazy guy that just didn't apply himself". We're born in a culture where everyone hates our guts. So many fictional stories uses our archetype as a villainesque character or as a morally repugnant obstacle for the good, motivated protagonist to overcome.
I remember hearing kids around me talking about "dreams" growing up and being confused. I've never had a dream. Ever.
No.301812
>>297783OP I enjoy this Rainbow Dash
No.301813
>>297783To avoid getting into trouble later in life, is it too much to work just a little bit, for example 4 hours a week, so that at least you have a foot in the door somewhere in case one day you may change your mind?
No.301817
>>301808That "fire in your eyes" that you refer to is a brain with a well functionning reward system aka a dopaminated brain.
No.302312
really pisses me off when normies will try to blame you and make you feel guilty for taking advantage of your parents who didn't teach you how to be independent
it's like the only difference to them between a victim and a leech is about 5 years after turning whatever arbitrary age they consider you an adult
No.302313
>>301808Normies coddled or not always fit in somewhere, they can selfimproov
When you're an autist or something like that you're a lost cause
No.302314
>>302313Even in jail or homeless they always find someone to get along with
No.302318
>>302312>your parents who didn't teach you how to be independentYou can easily learn how to be independent without them. This was the case even before the internet.
No.302346
>>300444>>301808>overprotective parentsIt's genetics too
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>>301817>>300671>Mental illnessOn this site? Incredible, isn't it
>>300687They're not necessarily normalfags, they're just young and not yet fed up with entertainment
No.302382
>>300812what anime is that from)
i think i was coddled as well, but despite that i never had a career goal ever growing up, but i was also too shy to go out and become independent without hand holding 24 7 as well)
No.302492
>>297783Something I saw posted months ago:
>I’ve known a few NEETs in my time. The kind of people who never managed to get their lives off the ground, stuck in a cycle of self-loathing and stagnation. Some of them were lazy, sure, but it was never just about that. There was always something deeper at play, and after seeing the pattern repeat enough times, the common denominator became clear: their parents.
>Not just bad parents in the usual sense—these weren’t violent abusers or neglectful junkies. No, these were the absent yet omnipresent types. The ones who managed to be both overbearing and useless, hovering over their children’s lives just enough to stifle any real independence while never actually guiding them toward anything productive. They raised their kids to be weak, dependent, and afraid of the world while doing nothing to prepare them for it.
>These parents kept them on a tight leash, controlling them just enough to ensure they couldn’t grow on their own. They made their kids fear failure while never encouraging success. They taught helplessness, ridiculed ambition, and instilled a baseline assumption that the world was too hard, too cruel, and not worth engaging with. Then they turned around and sneered at their kids for turning out exactly as they were molded—passive, broken, directionless.
>It’s a perfect cycle of failure. Raise your child to be a loser, then blame them for losing. Teach them to avoid risk, then mock them for never taking any. Smother them just enough to kill their spirit, but not enough to make them resent you enough to break free. The perfect conditions for breeding a NEET. No.302494
>>302492I have 3 siblings and all 3 of them are independent except for me. It's a combination of shitty genes and shitty parents.
No.302495
>>302312The whole "You can accomplish anything if you work hard!" shit is just a result of the atomization of society. Seeing people as just the products of their choices and not genetics/upbringing/circumstances let's you ignore the suffering of other people and to feel confident in your own success as being "Yours".
Normalfags love it of course.
No.302499
>>302492This sadly describes my parents perfectly. I, however, am an on and off NEET. I go between the NEET life and shitty low-wage jobs, but fail to ever truly succeed at anything big or important, so I never gain enough success or confidence to be independent and go out on my own. I still live at home and I'm 33.
>>302494Both of my siblings are independent, but that was only after they got mixed up in drugs, ran away from home, served time in jail, and eventually got clean and fixed their lives. They're both doing pretty well for themselves these days, and I'm still a failure.
No.302544
>>297783i really hope i dont end up being 30 and a NEET i would most likely jump off
No.302576
>>301808>>302492Thanks for these posts, I appreciate seeing my condition articulated with the gravity it deserves even if it doesn't offer a solution.
No.302582
>>297783I'm in a similar situation. Like what the fuck are parents doing these days? They have a kid and then hope they figure out everything by themselves with no support. It's cruel.
No.302583
I'm 29, right now I'm just working on myself and trying to dig myself out of the hole. Hopefully, if everything goes according to plan, a year from now I will be living on my own abroad. I don't want to think life can be better, I want to think it can be different.
>>302382>what anime is that from)It's from mono. Cute succubi doing cute things. Same author as Yuru Camp if you know that one.