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 No.310238[Reply]

how do some people make it so long.

i dont get it. im always so close to killing myself .

i hate myself .
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 No.310262

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I live in an apartment building with a spiral staircase with a big-ish open center.
In my alcoholism i have thought and gotten out there just to debate it. jumping down.
At the bottom of the staircase is a basement that belongs to a family restaurant that has the bottom floor of the building.
I don't want to put that on them, but i was thinking of this and things about assulting to kill strangers still up to just recently.

i feel better now which i thank to making a friend and reconnecting with another friend both on steam.
i failed to do my end of the mingling job as a friend with the ladder.
i talk with them almost everyday even if limited messages, i have shown them images of my job and life, they are real friends to me.
i got into pc mouse drawing thanks to the new friend who is an artist in the mlp space. Knowing i had decent ability for it, i tried. i really enjoy it now.

I'm still drinking and i sit at my pc all day after work with nothing going on but i have something now that i dont want to go without, if i lost these friends one day, that would really fuck me up.
i have not had friends like this since i was 11. i am 25

 No.310263

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>>310262
It's been 3 months with these 2 people. Making the new friend got me to reach out for the older one pretty quickly. this was one of my first draws

 No.310266

Main reason for me is not hurting my family. Apart from that I would have probably planned it already.

 No.310308

same, I think I will be really gone soon

 No.310313

>>310238
its simply not bad enough. total paralysis or getting funkytown'd by drones or something would probably make me willing



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 No.310299[Reply]

>be me, living life
>leftist roons come at me in swarms to try and cancel my style
>the system won't help me, it helps them attack me
>truth be tol', if I wanted to 100% my speedrun I would have to KO the roon and then go Han Solo to Anakin skywalker in tattoonie.
>…
>shit, these fuckers get to win


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 No.310204[Reply]

I have always suffered in silence. I never speak to others about my suffering—whether it’s my family or anyone else. I have always bottled up my emotional pain. Besides, no one wants me, so there is no point in reaching out to others to build the kind of trusting bond where I could open up. The last time I cried was five years ago; before that, I hadn't cried for six or seven years—or maybe even longer, I can't remember. I am tired of living; I can't take it anymore. I am not strong enough to hold on to life. I just can't manage it. In any case, there are so many people who can't cope and who give up on life—and yet people want to save them? My heart is too heavy; it’s crushing me.
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 No.310207

I'm very sorry to hear this, wiz. I'm not feeling the best today either.

> I never speak to others about my suffering—whether it’s my family or anyone else. I have always bottled up my emotional pain.


You are free to speak here. You'll be given a fair audience.

>Besides, no one wants me, so there is no point in reaching out to others to build the kind of trusting bond where I could open up.


Obviously, this cannot be certainly known. You can always try reaching out; it may go well and benefit you. You cannot know until you try.

>I am tired of living; I can't take it anymore


I spoke the same two sentences in my own mind earlier today.

I am going to shower and then lie down in my bed and try to sleep. Perhaps I'll feel better in the morning.

 No.310213

life is torture, anyone claiming that the purpose of being alive is to fight is a retard, whatever we do it always ends with death, the big issue is that this self-replicating dna molecule is widespread and will keep bringing new people to life so what we can do is to allieviate suffering as much as we can through cope while waiting for the universe to freeze

 No.310214

>>310207
>Perhaps I'll feel better in the morning.
do you feel better? because I don't. during the day, I stress because of my life and the night I'm sad and want to end it all. it's a real torture

 No.310215

>>310204
>I have always suffered in silence. I never speak to others about my suffering—whether it’s my family or anyone else

I feel related. I am in the same situation, so I don't know what to say to you and I don't have a good advise o anything worth it.

 No.310243

>>310204
Life is a one painful rape before death. There's nothing special. A nightmare that'll end, hopefully.



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 No.302003[Reply]

My rooster that I've had for ten years, who I consider my best friend and love more than anyone else, died Wednesday night. He was my only friend. He lived in the house with me and was the only thing that would make me feel better when the rest of my life would weigh down on me. I would go hold him and the rest of life would disappear and that would be all that would matter. I keep forgetting now for a few moments, that I can't go see him and hold him anymore.

I have had depression for my whole life adolescence onward, and I was afraid even 5-6 years ago of this day and thought it would be unsurvivable, and now it's here, and I do want to die. I dont want to live in a world where he isn't here with me. The initial shock has worn off and it's sinking in that my best friend is gone, and I'm not going to see him again. My mother is the only other positive presence in my life, because she knew how much I love him. She has stage 4 cancer and it's still unclear if she's going to survive it or not. She's essentially the only reason why I have not shot myself already. She was never abusive or cruel to me, so I couldn't do that to her even though I don't want to live anymore.

Did you ever have an animal that meant this much to you? People are cruel and petty and small. If an animal loves you it's genuine, they dont have ulterior motives or social performance.
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 No.308133

>>308118
Normalfags only keep animals as props. They don't actually value them as friendships, see all the parrots that people get rid of when they get married/have kids and "don't have time for them"

 No.308752

>>308133
I dunno. Apparently, by your logic, cats are non-normie pets then.

 No.310131

>>308752
there's no such thing as normie pets or non normie pets, using "normie" in the disparaging way. Normalfags generally view animals in a really shallow way, which is also how they view people now that I think about it

 No.310175

i had a cat die and as much as i loved him i felt close to nothing when he died, i guess i knew it was coming. i still see him in my dreams from time to time

 No.310201

My cat is that to me. My mom felt sad I have no friends so she got me a kitten. Poor thing had been abused, so her face was mangled. She still has an eye, her ears, and she can eat fine but it took 3k to get her to this point. Worth it. This little creature's kept me alive at my lowest. She waits by the door for me to come home, and either cuddles or brings a toy to play fetch with. She's very good, never eats human food and never gets up on the counter. She wakes me when I have nightmares. She's indoor-only but she's a good mouser, I had to get a dustpan just for her gifts. I appreciate the gesture but I like to leave them outside for some critter that could use an easy meal.



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 No.309064[Reply]

Discuss your substance related coping mechanisms and how it pertains to your depression here.
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 No.310084

>>309064
Let me do some math.

Most nights are 10 shots of Everclear and 10 shots of a liqueur. 1 shot to 1.5 ounce.
That's 15 + (15 x 0.25) Which is 15 + 3.75.
It all comes out to roughly 20 ounces of ethanol a night. I start mixing them stronger after I get loosened up.


I know it's all so miserable, but at least I can't feel it. Consequences, repercussions, the pain of a near-lethal dose.
It's just static at that point.

I won't say it feels good. But at least it doesn't hurt.
That's the most important part.
Not even the hangover. I learned how to get around those. I'm really good at avoiding pain. I wish that could be a marketable skill. I'd be just filthy rich if it was.

A wizard can dream. It's a shame that's about all we can do in this hellish place.

 No.310144

>>309064
i smoke 3-4 cigarettes a day. its one of the few things i look forward to. One before, during, and maybe 2 after work

 No.310189

My suicidal thoughts pretty much went away once I got my legal weed card and started using weed heavily. Sometimes when I don't smoke weed I find myself thinking about killing myself again. So basically I'm addicted to weed to not want to kill myself. An improvement from when I didn't have good access to weed and wanted to kill myself at least.

 No.310190

>>310084
Guys who do this all have a time limit until their bodies will rebel. Might be their kidneys or their liver or their pancreas. Something will go after a while of drinking like this and you will end up in the hospital with the choice to either stop drinking and get your shit together, or literally die.

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 No.306265[Reply]

I feel like a lot of people, especially older normies overestimate the abilities of the average guy and the problems that are out there to be solved in real life.

There is this old guy I listened to for the past decade now called Eli the Computer Guy and he often repeats this mantra that a tech professional should go out there pick themselves up by their bootstraps and solve problems for money.
Solve real world problems for money. Provide solutions using your skills. Over and over again while teaching people about making toy cars with a microcomputer or whatever.

Issue is there aren't any problems the average guy is capable of solving that people are able to pay enough for to make it worthwhile.
Maybe I'm low IQ and not creative enough, but that is the point I guess.
The average guy that got a CS or engineering degree and is now doing menial tasks at a big corporation isn't going to create groundbreaking solutions because everything worth doing, all the low hanging fruit and obvious problem/solution pairs have been done to death, patented to death or worse.

Big tech is so big that they offer a solution so refined, so solid, so cheap that no mom-and-pop shop will ever give you the time of day if those even exist.
The average normie is quite content with a phone which is basically a toy-ified computer gadget.
They don't need more.
Most even run their own little business from it using a handful of cheap/free big tech tools that if you were to offer a homebrew solution for it would cost an arm and leg to maintain without economies of scale.

What does a network tech that wants to "solve problems" do aside from running cable? You could lease a 10G fiber line from a big ISP and sublet it by wiring up a small village I guess?
Then the government gives a huge fucking grant to big ISP and they just wire up every small village themselves leaving you with nothing.
If you are lucky you can become a subcontractor doing menial tasks for the big ISP in a set region.

What does the average coder do now? Especially with the future of them limiting hardware/software access? Every app is made that a normie needs. Kinda like with websites.
Every normie uses less than a dozen of them, mostly through apps…
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 No.310059

>Issue is there aren't any problems the average guy is capable of solving that people are able to pay enough for to make it worthwhile.

how is that the same then

>There isn't much left to do


the conclusion i draw from this is that money is an evil system almost entierly benefitting those who have it and don't need to work for it. money is the worst but yall normies don't hear me.

 No.310061

>>310059
>the conclusion i draw from this is that money is an evil system

there is tons of stuff to do but not for money. in the future there are like 3 companies and they are the only ones with money and everyone has to work for them.

i will not work for them…

 No.310101

>>306265
im only willing to work overnight security from now until i die. if for whatever reason i can no longer do this because it gets automated (doubtful tbh), then ill just buy a used van, live in it, and find some kind of flexible work to get money to survive.

Im 35 and i've accepted a life of mediocrity. for hte past 10 years ive just mailed it in, and the urgency to pursue excellence has never been there. i just dont care. i already know what the reward is

 No.310103

>>310101
>Im 35 and i've accepted a life of mediocrity. for hte past 10 years ive just mailed it in, and the urgency to pursue excellence has never been there. i just dont care. i already know what the reward is

in case you did not consider, you can not-pursue excellence in public but still be excellent towards yourself, which is what i am doing. written from my van from a camping spot one country to the east, it's super nice in this country there is a way to book camping spots without having to interact with the owner. i just pay with creditcard, give them my license plate number and drive on a spot near farmland or near a river and leave by the time they wrote on the website without leaving trash.

security sucks, being the henchmen of the rich and established is miserable, it would be preferable to be a bum, have a nice day though.

 No.310143

>>310103
>being the henchmen for the rich and established
i sit in an empty office building in a nice office chair and basically do nothing. i don't really do anyones bidding, and there's free snacks and coffee. its a big tech company



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 No.309114[Reply]

>The more I seclude myself the more I long for human connection
>The more I interact with the 3D world the more I just want to be left alone
I literally cannot win in this life
I am always worried about doing the wrong thing, I am always lamenting all of my errors of the past
I hardly actually live
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 No.310096

>>310093
I just talk to them less. You can take distance bit by bit, you do not necessarily have to tell them "I don't want to be your friend"

 No.310100

>>310096
>I just talk to them less. You can take distance bit by bit, you do not necessarily have to tell them "I don't want to be your friend"

sometimes you meet someone and from the first moment you know you don't wanna meet that person, your approach is to just laugh nervously and answer all their demands for attention until they decide to get the hint and leave you alone. that sucks man, that's feminine approach.

what if you are an awesome guy and all the assholes want to be your "friends" the moment they see you like the predators they are. if you were awesome enough you knew this. their friendship is only a pretense to take advantage of you, leech off your energy, satisfy their curiosity about you.

sucks to be swarmed by bullies and then bit by bit having to painfully go through the process of having to slowly make the fool understand that his evil ways are not welcome at you and then slowly hope that they don't switch into open hostility, which (again you will not know this) is only their pretense to keep the interaction going for as long as they want.

>just talk to them less

it doesn't work their fascination of the dead conditioned ones with pre-conditioned consciousness is too strong. they are like moths and go to where the light is no matter what.

i roll my eyes at your naivety, you lack the life experience to give any advice. good luck to you though, you sound like you need it.

 No.310105

>>310100
You overanalyze everything, like everybody does on these kinds of 4chan sites '-')
How annoying -_-

 No.310107

>>310105
Going by writing style, that poster has been hanging around like a bad smell for a few weeks now.

 No.310108

>>310105
>You overanalyze everything

no you are just surface, smooth like a marble fresh from the factory, slippery like the eel, like a lvl 2 pidgey.



 No.310062[Reply]

anyone here into studying carl jung by any chance? there is a lot i find fascinating about him but what impressed me the most is that he condensed his mental health strategy into a single word: integtation. implied in this is that each person has unconscious parts and by making those unconscious parts conscious, they no longer sabotage.

to me this is amazing and ballsey. i image most other mental health practitioners would not give you a one word answer to the question of how to have a healthy mind. i image they'd say that this is impossible to answer and that it depends and that an expert is needed.
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 No.310065

Just like wizards above, I never got the "integration" thing

 No.310066

Just like wizards above, I never got the "integration" thing

 No.310067

Yes I've gotten very into him in the past couple years. Active imagination has been the most useful psychological thing I've done.

>>310064
There is no general rule because it depends on individuals. Things like ethnicity, culture, familial background impacts the specifics. As an actual technique the most effective one is active imagination.

The essential thing is just having those situations where you can encounter the unconscious content so you can actually engage with it and come into proper relation with it. Historically this would have been through things like local folk practices and religious rituals, and cultural practices generally. Jung's idea is that the human psyche has things which express those ethnic/religious ideas (archetypes) and that because we are alienated from the traditional means there isn't actually a great vehicle for doing it. He attempts to provide a way for people to do it on their own stuff like:
>Oh well she's trying to find herself and integrate her shadow of course! If the said husband is hurt by this then well, he's got an unexplored and neglected anima!
Largely comes from people trying to simplify it or make it accessible, ultimately you are the only one who can ensure your relation to those complexes is harmonious. There are many ways it can go wrong, inflation because you identify with the unconcious or collective conciousness. Possession by the archetype and having your ego sort of shadowed over by it. Projecting it onto things around you (the most obvious thing for this is succubi liking abusive/domineering men because that's a vehicle for animus projection, and men liking attention whore succubi because they are a vehicle for anima projection)
The opposite is also the case, the butch dyke identifying with her animus, or the fag/tranny identifying with their anima.

The whole idea is these things are at work in us anyway and by getting a clearer relationship with it rather then it just harvesting your energy you can have a proper relationship with it and see how it effects you.

A very simple practical thing can kind of be seen through the popularization of jung through the psychological type stuff. Your inferior function in mbti (or just the opposite of your dominant function in more standard jungian stuff ie if you are the introverted thinkinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.310076

>>310064

>I mean, conceptually it seems logical, but like all if this psychology shit, it falls apart in practice.


you could have taken responsibility and said "i don't know how" but instead you have chosen to make it a theater production and the more unconscious you are, the more you feel the urge to frame reality in terms that would imply that you can not be at fault for it. that immediately jumped at me. even on a somewhat anonymous website you don't feel comfortable being vulnerable. the voice in your head that said "wait no, lets write it in a way where it doesn't sound like i did something wrong!" i believe to be your unconscious.

>How do you "integrate" your subconscious, your shadow, become an "individual"? Jung never really made that super clear, it all vague wishy washy shit that can map unto anything.


-_- well it's a process that takes time, effort and present-mindedness. you keep learning about it, fiding out new details, wondering how it could make sense. you try to find out what the part that takes control of you is trying to tell you. you are asking for a pill, for a code that you just have to execute, you are asking for someone to do the thinking for you instead of walking as far and as fast as your own thoughts can carry you.

there is something inside you, heavily suppressed by education, normality, culture, fear and all kinds of other social mechanisms of violence and you are trying to find out what it tries to tell you. one way the the subconscious tries to communicate with you is through dreams so one part of it is to make a dream journal. i use a simple open source notepad app on the phone were i just have to write the end of the filename and hit a button and it is saved in a folder of my choice.

>Why is the succubus cheating on her husband? Oh well she's trying to find herself and integrate her shadow of course! If the said husband is hurt by this then well, he's got an unexplored and neglected anima!


anything can be made to sound stupid.

>Give me an explicit, unambiguous algorithm for "integration" that we can empirically test and even try out on ourselves and then we can talk. Until then it's just fairy dust bullshit.


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 No.310077

>>310067
>Yes I've gotten very into him in the past couple years. Active imagination has been the most useful psychological thing I've done.

i'm reading Memories, Dreams, Reflections and i am almost at the point where he talks about it for the first time, looking forward to it, the book has been amazing so far. i'm still at the part where he talks about how freud was worried about losing respect. freud the fraud.



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 No.308694[Reply]

Do you think suicide hotlines are helpful? I have been calling them almost everyday without anything improving.
Is there a better alternative?
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 No.309252

My country basically has shut them down. Mental health awareness fatigue has set in. Its an addictive habit ringing them up anyway.

 No.310073

I've never considered it - maybe I've never been low enough even though I walk around thinking "I should kill myself. I should kill myself." on repeat. My life is still largely tolerable despite being completely empty and greyscale and meaningless so I've never actually made any plans.

There's absolutely nothing appealing to me about calling up some stranger who's only obligated to help because that's their contextualized role. The main reason I want to kill myself is precisely because of how instanced and contextualized and transient everything feels. It's all just vapid transactional junk. I feel like a dotted line silhouette of a human with a transparent fill. Like a GTA pedestrian death marker.

 No.310074

>>310073
I like how you write, you have a way with words.

 No.310075

>>310073
The nature of reality is basically a shattered puzzle whose completition means nothing but you are still forced to take up a piece of it

 No.310542

No, they make me feel even more cynical and make me feel even worse.



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 No.308999[Reply]

Are there people here who don't have a job or don't get NEETbux and have to live with parents who are abusive and stupid as fuck but you just can't beat the crap out of them because you're dependent upon them?
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 No.309273

>>309271
Why not just live on public land? If you have bux you can buy a car and solar panels and tents and stuff. I would need about 1k per month to sustain that lifestyle, but only because I spend $400 a month on weed. Most of the costs are start up costs.

 No.309344

It is not O.K. that I have to live here with him. He is not too gay or demanding but he is dumb and takes his sons wizardry never and his food is barebones and we both almost starve. Sometimes we steal beef t-flank steak but I am hungry a lot. Beer recently got phased out as a basic at 30 3/4years. I make him mad and ornery and he makes me sick and hungry. I recently took a motorcycle from him and he is gay about how it gets used lol. I am broke always him almost never. Trying to get beer has done me in today yet he sits up there drunk and asleep like a weightwatchers yogi. How frazzling and inane can it get? Bear

 No.309454

>>309000
it's a week before pension payment and the ma only has enough for the credit payment on her account that goes at the end of the month. she figured out that if you don't have enough, they just take it as soon as she has money on her account with seemingly no fees as punishment, so she went and withdrew some of the money today to buy snacks and fruit (instead of just eating the food with have in two fridges and freezer). she also talked to the lady at the bank about another loan, a refinancing one where she pays off everything she owes and then just has a smaller flat rate… oh and she's renovating the windows and buying new carpets.

i spent like an hour arguing with her but there's no point. some people are just really terrible with money and don't have a frugal bone in their body. why can't she just live within her means? of course, the more in debt we are, the more she pressures me to go work. we were pretty much poor my entire childhood because of my dad's retarded decisions, now we're poor because of hers.

 No.310029

>>309454
Probably not possible for you with severe social anxiety and if she will make good on threats…but I figured out too late I should have just started bossing my mom around.
Idk maybe look into some psychology material on how to manipulate and assert dominance.

 No.310044

>>309454
>the more in debt we are, the more she pressures me to go work.

This is literally how the owning class enslaves the working class. They use ads to make people crave material possessions then tell them they can have those things on credit and convince people it will all work out, then people with poor impulse control and long term planning end up deep in a hole ending up having to work like dogs just to keep what they have from being taken away from them. Honestly how dare she involve you in her bad life decisions. I'd dip and leave her to deal with her own problems. Can't be indulging in normalfaggotry and wage slavery on someone else's behalf.



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