/dep/ - Depression

>>305356
Please stop taking them before you lose your mind, read horror stories about these psych drugs, you will find plenty of material

>>305357
>where do you live?
Let's say I'm a thirdie
>how old are you?
Old enough
>why can't you just btfo your parents?
No, can't do. I live with my parents, their house, their rules.
>e.g. how the hell could you be prescribed antipsychotics while being "healthy"?
That's what I'm asking. Am I healthy?
were you even evaluated?
I was, but they are not sharing the results
>and why are your parents not explaining anything?
That's what I'd like to know too.

>>305363
R.I.P.

>>305356
>Wizardly schizos, I need your input.
I was dragged to a shrink by my family and he prescribed me some injections, then Abilify 30 mg. He said I'm healthy, but need to deal with my depression.
But I've read that Abilify 30 mg is a lot for depression. What gives?


1. "Horse dose", e.g. A LOT pre-emptively
2. Shock therapy?

3. The meme answer: he gets paid for prescribing LOTS of meds so he hands out meds like candies

>>305387
4. maybe your body is "tolerant" e.g. insensitive to drugs?

5. ur wizard, so giving you A LOT of Abilify wont put you into the "that feel when no gf" pool…

6. you're probably a 300lbs big dude so you probably need more VERSUS your sources hint at "normal average person" with under-40kg people and maybe schoolers included

>>305016
as an emotional person, I can agree: good thing people like myself don't get to be in charge of implementing, "signing" new laws.

>>305044
If your only replies are "ur a faggot" and "ur a jew" you don't belong here, you look like automated shitposting bots and deserve to be ignored or even better banned

To all Wizbros, I implore you to start fixing your mental health by changing the food you eat to mainly meat, fish, animal fat, raw milk, butter, organs and the rest whatever you enjoy. Then try exercise, stretching, meditation. Get a pet. Channel your mana and try everything in your power to return to your natural healthy form. Do not for a second consider taking the neurotoxic globalist castration lobotomy poison that are psych drugs, does not matter what kind or brand.
Speaking from personal experience, I took SSRI medication for 6 months and still feel blunted emotionally and intelectually 10 years later, not to mention loss of proper feeling in the private areas, tinnitus in the ears, obesity and plenty more issues i did not have before.
CONSERVE YOUR SPIRIT AT ALL COST, NO MATTER HOW DARK AND NARROW THE PATH GETS. YOU ARE STRONGER THAN YOU THINK AT THE MOMENT.

Also, i recommend reading We Want To Live written by Aajonus Vonderplanitz

>>305358
mom my problem isn't food my problem is that i'm so crippled by anxiety and hatred my stomach feels like a knot. mom i know it's hard for you to understand but once you slip out of society there isn't a way to get back in, just why the fuck would i care about what i eat? anything that i can swallow is fine i've nothing to live for and magic is spiritual not bodily

>>303691
I had a GERD-like booshi back in 2019


in 2020, I realised it was the "not so spicy" spicy food from work that was doing the inflaming stuff to me

>>303691



ok, just in case


try to eat 1 source of carbs only per month or, at least, week:

switch between:
rice/pasta+bread+buns/buckwheat "kasha"

to rule out undiagnosed GLUTEN stuff

literally bro…
who needs buy alcohol?

It's pretty easy to not drink if you're not around it.

Keep yourself busy, stop buying it and avoid situations where you might be tempted.

>>305313
My city basically has a liquor store on every street almost lol. In a 1km radius google maps shows 18 stores. This is also excluding the super/minimarts

>>302846
>>303759
Now, whom should I listen to?

I used Discord for six consecutive years, and this experience helped me make the only friend I’ve had in my whole life. We will complete six years of friendship in September this year. (Like many boys at a young age, I was bullied, and that messed up my social interactions.)

Maybe you don’t need to join a Discord server to make friends, but you can look for online games that make you interact with people and invite someone to a voice call. If this person is very communicative, he will introduce you to his friends, and “friendship” will become something you build every day. Obviously, everyone has their own limit when it comes to talking to a new person, so it’s natural to have moments of silence.

Friendship is something you need in life. Just one is enough, but it has to be solid.

I have this problem, but I like to think my problem more than being "nervous to talk to anyone and make friends" is that im too adhd, or plainly lazy and dumb, to develop the routine needed to make friends. Thats how it works, no? At least when youre old, and thats the thing, once youre old youre set in your ways, if your ways were those of solitude *and* complacence in solitude, then well, youre kinda truly permafucked in that department. Your brain cannot register new people in your life thus no friends.

And yet it hurts, it hurts so much watching others make connections and friends. But perhaps it is not exactly that what hurts me, but rather the passage of time (completely in vain in my specific case), approaching death with absolutely nothing and no one to show for it.

Oddly I think I make good first impressions, but never goes beyond that because cannot be fucked to care about myself let alone others.

>>301328
Also this

>>301482
>usually about exchanging attention, validation and things like that but if you lack that drive then you won't see the point in it either.
In other words they become energized from socializing while you and I become drained. Its a losing battle.

>The key might be to just find drive in solitude without becoming a rabid consumer or mentally crippled loner, find whatever you're craving in yourself and not other people. 99% of social stuff is just vapor and noise anyway.
Kinda true but again, like it or not socializing expands a groups borders. So your hobby or whatever, will eventually become engulfed by this social monster.

>>302451
>4chong
>succesful
Excuse me what? Do you really believe this? 4chan at this point is a bunch of schizophrenic cliqueish terminally online faggots spamming the same threads 24/7. Literally. Im not being hyperbolic here, its literally the same fucking 100~ people talking to themselves, with 10 of them making 90% of the posts. Why do you think they removed the IP counter?
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>>301659
IRL people are too judgemental. The consequences for acting like a sperg or violating social norms IRL are too high. I prefer the internet where the consequences for fucking up social interactions are minimal.

>>305336
Hey, anon.

I don’t see a problem with sharing my experience with my only friend and how I see this world.

My friendship with him started in September 2020. I was 17, and he was 19.

I met him on a Discord server after he sent a message saying, “Today feels like a day I could put a knife to my neck,” right in the middle of a chat full of dumb jokes about school and love. When I read that, I just replied:
“Hey man, if you want to talk, send me a message. Some feelings hit harder because everything is still too recent, and it’s hard to see things clearly when you’re desperate.”

After that, we started talking about the usual stuff — anime, games, music, and things like that.

Over the years, our contact slowly faded. In a month, we exchange maybe five to twenty messages. Just enough to know if the other one is still alive or doing okay. For most people, this would mean “the friendship is over,” because there’s no real conversation anymore. But I don’t believe that. Friendships don’t die just because they change. They die when both people stop caring that the other exists.

Right now, we talk maybe once every three months. We send long messages about how life’s been going. It’s our way of giving each other a bit of hope in this sad world. I actually like it. We grew up, and the friendship grew up too.

As for my relationship with people in general: when I was a kid, I avoided human contact — not because I was scared or something, but because I just wasn’t interested. Drawing, math, and books felt way more interesting. I was distant from my family back then, and I still am. Maybe bullying affected me more than I noticed at the time.
My psychiatrist told me I have schizotypal personality disorder, which makes my depression worse. It sounds kind of ironic, since I work with culture and events and I’m always busy — sleeping three or four hours a night and working until late.

Going back to being distant from my family: at some point, I started to see human connections in terms of what they’re for. Some people are just there to say “hi,” “good afternoon,” or “good night.” Others notice you, point things out about you, and make you think later. And a lot of people only show up to say weird things that make you uncomfortable. You can’t really avoid any of this — it’s all part of being human.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

I don't like it when people say that because in my case it just made me numb and less able to connect with people. Not even that I mistrust them or whatever, I don't really dislike them either, it just feels like I no longer have it in me to crave any type of approval or anything similar to that. I think that if I didn't struggle as much as I did as a kid that I'd probably have turned out differently, more compassionate than I am today. That is not really to say that I'm unable to feel compassion, but I've just reached a point where I'm not actually feeling these things and being aware of it anymore, it feels like I'm reacting to something else instead of me actually having some type of recognition of the fact that I'm feeling remorse or anything towards someone. It's weird to describe and explain, but pretty much I don't feel as I did in the past, seems like instead of me having a set of emotions I can actually differentiate from other emotions and being aware, I'm instead just not feeling like I can be aware of these things, but instead I display it as though it affects me, and it definitely does, but I'm not aware of it as I might have been before. I'm not sure if I can blame it exclusively on my past, I'm also on medication which I've been on for some time now and that could also be the reason as to why I feel like this. But I was also more or less the same back when I wasn't on medication.

The phrase "suffering makes you stronger" has an implicit assumption: you're already strong, i.e., you can find meaning in your suffering by deeply analysing it and using it for your own observation and improvement, not a material form but a spiritual or psychological one, like understanding the causes behind someone's behaviour and not taking it personal.

Recently I was watching a yt channel where the youtuber was ranting about her life and she was unable to watch herself but as a victim: everyone was mean to her "just because"; but she couln't analyse her own behaviour which, in fact, was the common factor to all of her social problems. Another people might not feel as a victim but neither they can analyse their past, they will just… bear with it, not in the sense that you don't give a shit but in the sense that you deserve all the shit people throw at you. You can cultivate resentment, low self-esteem or personal growth, that is up to you.

>>305272
you make important omissions.

first, babbling is a part of the process of "figuring it out'. of course, if you don't put a conscious effort into it, you'll just be babbling forever, but even if you *do* put effort into it, you will still babble until you "figure it out".

second, it's not really "up to you". what is up to you is how you use your "good time". by "good time" i mean periods when your brain functions ok. but if most of the time your brain is NOT operating ok, then you can't "figure anything out"

>>305269
>Anon, Elon Musk, one of the greatest man, has been bullied his whole life and is a lolcow, and every clowning on him makes him more popular. Bullying can be a gift.



"Oh we11! Th3y bu11y me a lot! Which 54y5 a 1ot about my achievwments" card requires knowing how pull it right e.g. kn0wing your rights

>>305123
You do not grow stronger by suffering, you grow stronger by overcoming hardship and difficulty. This can very well be done without suffering, though unfortunately most people wouldn't bother to do so until it starts to cause them harm.

>>305241
Very well said. You need to have 0.01% tier luck to actually have a life worth living.

I've never actually had any type of dreams. I'm probably an NPC or whatever kids these days call it. There was a point in time where I wanted to have a lot of money but I've never actually seriously had my sights on any type of specific work or education.

Honestly, my life is full of the moments where I asked for this, and now I have to live with it. Feels lainpilled…



…guess I need to friendmaxx.

I wonder what are those normal things in life OP mentions. Because things like owning a home and the such are becoming more and more scarcer.

Three days ago was my birthday. I realized it when my mom hugged me and said, “HB, honey!” After that, I started thinking more — and I ended up cursing my own existence.

It feels impossible for me to live the life I wanted. I can’t isolate myself to read books or study music, math, and philosophy. I don’t even know if I would call that life a dream — maybe it is one. It feels so fucking annoying and utopian when I stop everything to think about it.

I think I’ll die in some stupid loneliness I once believed in. I stopped cutting myself, but I no longer take my meds for depression, schizoid personality disorder, and misanthropy.

Like another anon said, “We’re not born to be happy.” If that’s true, maybe all I can do is sit down and watch my whole life turn to dust in the wind.

Fuck.

Jordan Peterson is the epitome of dishonesty. Terrible thread

>>304864
Part of me believes this post is reverse psychology to turn us into future mass shooters 🤔

>>305283
Yep - disregard the premise and manifest your own destiny. It might still suck but it will be your own.

>>304864
You should research and follow the people he's influenced by or sometimes str8 up plagiarizes instead.

You'll get a lot farther.

>>305242
he's a jew puppet; a proud jew puppet. honesty is not discoverable in that line of work. but he is knowledgeable of himself, enough that he works for the jew, so no excusing quarter is owed him.

>>305263
>Through sertraline, I have been able to discover a sense of kindness and peace within myself, even while the world around me remains unpredictable. It has helped quiet the constant inner turmoil and allowed me to approach life with more patience, clarity, and emotional balance.


Welp!
1. Good for you I guess
2. Well, my fear is, they'll suspect a yet another form of schizophrenia rather than JUST prescribing me a cute and adorable modern drug "because it runs in yer family!" and "well, depression is a symptom of SCH, loony!"
3. I am not sure about the hostile guy here, but he probably had been the bully type due to his *potty*load of problems in his life that made him Wizardchan tier

Desvenlafaxine 50mg, which is good since I've gone down from taking 100mg + two other medication to just one.
Having a routine and exercise has helped me a lot as well.
My 20s were a lot of trial and error with SSRI's and Benzos and other shit. Feel more stable than ever now, still get down moments tho.

>>305176
OP, I eat some pills too.

Multivitamins:
B12 vitamin, x10 the daily dose
+ some other vitamins to compensate for my lent-based diet

Magnesium. Just like in "Disco Elysium". Kinda helps.

Vitamin D.
Well… sometimes. I prefer cod liver

Also, avoid cola. It has caffeine. I cannot sleep. Oh wait I have a nice non-prescription thingy to drink! Bye!

>>305183
Today I learned what NPD is. Your "a terminal case of victimhood" wording can be applied to a person with narcissistic personality disorder. And, well, a disorder's disorder, so there no shame in getting a pill against that.

>>305289
>SSRI's

oh! oh! i remember something.
L-tryptophan is the thing your body makes 5-htp from, and 5-htp is used by your body to make serotonin!

I have some 5-htp sup pills left lying in the kitchen. I get my l-tryptophan from scrambled eggs with ketchup, mostly.

>>305291

>>305254
I disagree… I think doctors are never honest. I recommend avoiding them at all costs, human beings are not meant to take medication. I already posted about this in another thread but I took a few prozac pills and for more than a year after I have had no sex drive and suffer from almost constant anhedonia. It almost feels like being dead yet still alive. That dishonest doctor pretty much accused me of lying too… Unless you truly believe it helps, and it's not just placebo, please throw the pills in the toilet wizs.
>>305255
I hear you, but I think it's important to remember PTSD heals naturally over time. Even if it takes 5 years to heal completely I would prefer that to becoming numb forever because of medication. Glad it helped you at least, that's what matters. These meds are really a cruel lottery.

You have a pretty well elaborated written discourse, so your smartness is ok.

Maybe you should listen your body and stop letting others decide where you must go and when.

>>303068
Oh no no, we won't until you do something utlitarian yourself. For instance, 0.1% concentration CO2 in your room is enough to give some a headache (the natural concentration is 0.04%).

>>302257
bump because some of this stuff in OPpost feels relatable in a sense

>>305113
penguin classic for a reason. for anyone who hasnt read it, it is definitely worth looking at

>dehumanization due to lack of truly human connection

I dunno, for me, "real human connection" was the very *not nice* thing that scarred me

>Your username as the thread name
What did you wish to achieve with this?
>TV watcher
TV is 40% awful commercials designed to piss you off, and 60% awful programs conceived to make you gay and stupid
>obese fingers
Hair is retained in the kitchen. You'd have more hair on your head if it didn't need to breakthrough a quarter inch of fat.
>Windows 11 netbook
Why?
>WhatsApp image
Even worse than a Discord filename
>Mexican Twitter
There are imageboards better suited for your demographic.
>"privacy browser"
You are incredibly propagandized. Normal for a TV watcher!
>"My poor mommy worries about me having sad feefees :("
Do her a favor and improve yourself or at least try to give the impression that you're not someone who she needs to worry about
>Gay faggot boykisser erotica of bad anime
No I'm happy that you're sad.

>without realizing it out of nowhere I start crying
Are you not a grown man? Why the fuck were you crying?

ITT Indian lashes out at a Mexican. Peak thread please continue.