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 No.303398[Reply]

The sole purpose of this post is to share the techniques and books I have accumulated over time to achieve relaxation and other things.
I have read about meditation, magic, ceremonial magic, chaotic and postmodern magic, anxiety therapies, and relaxation techniques. This thread is not a cure for all problems. I don't want to turn this into a blogspot, so feel free to ask whatever you want.
>Also
Remember that you can also search for the techniques I mention on the internet, on YouTube, or on WikiHow, where you can find help on how to perform these techniques and more tips.
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 No.307343

>>307339
>could these be related?
A lot of old ceremonial magicians in books to post-modern ones have a motif into sex or fap.
Papus says 50 days of no-sexual activity no-fap for initiation into magic
Crowley in some way say the same
RAW say 50 days of nofap no sex
Other old ones say 45 days or similar
I dont know but from papus to today anyone of these guys actually never relate nofap or nosex activity to some form of vitalistic force or something, papus and later oned were kinda empirical maybe. Not like the chinese or some new age meme common schizo says myth around nofap.
You can try, in a way 50 days of nofap is a entry to magic in some old text (papus, crowley, etc) maybe related to discipline
For RAW was a… i dont know, a magic secret or something.

 No.307344

>>307343
sometimes i wonder about the power of it- is it from the retention itself (like chi or life force) or is it more of the act of discipline, like training yourself to hold your breath, you become more efficient at using oxygen in your body, you train past the pain (with sex the 'pain' would be that 'itch' drive force that produces urges etc)

Curious how practicitoners here utilize the practice. Do you have any conscious practice around it?

Doing some self-examination here… obviously i'm giving myself signs to quit and give myself a break at the very least to reset my libido… my spirituality has been really out of touch for months

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>>307344
I don't believe in chi or vitalistic ideas and all that stuff because I experiment with what I believe maybe and it seems to be hypnosis, beliefs, and mild altered states of consciousness.
Kinda materialistic approach if you see it like that way.
Maybe nofap, abstinence, and holding back make you more susceptible to suggestions/hypnosis.
Or maybe it opens you up to some kind of magic, I don't know, I have no idea.
Maybe it change something in your head, neurochemicals, i dont know, or maybe its just for discipline or sex control.
>Also
Right now I'm trying the 50-day challenge just to see what it's like. I did it last year, but I never actually had orgasms I just fapped without it. Basically, I was just “gooning” (I think Genesis P-Orridge recommended this method in one of his books or something lol), although there are several authors who replace the no fap no sex with something else that's just as bizarre in its own right related to sexual activity.
I dont know Wizard.

 No.307363

>>307362
that sounds like the eroto-comatose lucidity technique
how long were your sessions and did you reach an altered state of consciousness with them?

 No.307364

>>307363
>that sounds like the eroto-comatose lucidity technique
No, the gooning tech like p o-rridge maybe suggested is just fap without orgasm climax for 50 days or more.
The eroto-comosatose was more into total stimuly of all the senses, never tried it. But i remember reading somewhere that use abstinense to enchance pleasure sense.
>how long were your sessions and did you reach an altered state of consciousness with them?
I know its not the topic of the answer but sometimes i got a lot of focus and visualization just by focusing and feign having sex in my head in my bed. It even enchanced orgasm feeling so maybe the thing of visualization and acting was into it.
In a way is like playing before sex for succubus maybe. The focus exchance the orgasm and pleasure maybe.
In the Tibet the buddhist do something similar but with deities and visual power.



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 No.307294[Reply]

always no matter what happens set backs always set me back. and my goals arent that fucking unreasonable either. Change my habits, or enjoy a fucking game. and something major happens to set me back. not only am I scared to change im exausted about constantly being worried about what price im about to pay for that slight moment of enjoyment. its like the default setting for me in this life is to be miserable and useless, anything good going for me has to be double the price of bad luck to throw me back to square one. Nothing but bad luck. im just so frustrated.

 No.307299

if it's not working, then just stop trying, wiz. are there any areas of your life where things actually do go smoothly and feel effortless? put your energy towards these things, double down on them, even if your parents/society thinks it's lame or bad for you. you can't succeed the way they're telling you to, you have to find your own path. don't worry about how it's going to make you money or earn you normalfag respect, if you put in consistent time/effort into these things, not only will it feel rewarding, you'll be better off in the long-term anyway than succeeding in what others tell you to.

 No.307307

>>307299
I tried to find it but it always ends up in a situation its hard to recover from. maybe im just not ment to do anything

 No.307334

Same. In fact it's worse for me, as my life has been fucked by very unlikely coincidences several times now. Maybe I am jinxed or something.

 No.307335

>>307299
this is good advice

the first part is to highlight the stop trying part. Not that this is the final step, but it's the first step to finally relaxing and then figuring out what you actually wanna do

(A) It sounds like changing habits is really difficult for you right now (what habits/ what are you replacin with?)

(B) And also enjoying a game sounds difficult because you're probably feeling too guilty or stressed because of (A)…. "Losers don't get to enjoy things"



Try just lowering the bar until you can do (A) and (B). Can you…. make your bed first thing in the morning, and allow yourself to enjoy something? YOu can start small. Try *ENJOYING* some food or drink consciously as a reward for doing (A), and slowly retrain your brain that (A) -> (B) is okay, allowed, and you deserve it even if (A) wasn't perfect every time

 No.307348

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>>307294
>my goals

just you having goals makes you a winner in my book. do describe your goal setting mechanism/logic/system/habit/approach please because both for personal selfish interest of me potentially learning something new (i love talking about this and i never find anyone) AND also for your benefit because i did learn a few things about this.

i repeat just you having goals is what separates you from the eggs you believe belong to i say!



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 No.307205[Reply]

This thread is for talking about OCD, addictions, or those kinds of disorders that ruined our lives
>So
When I was a kid, I had some pretty OCD-like behavior—I’d touch things and check them over and over until I felt reassured that everything was okay. I also used to walk on my tiptoes, which is a bit autistic, but I eventually stopped doing that (I don’t know if I have autism at this point bacause never did a test, but whatever).
>So what’s up with you?
Well, in my case is limerence (some studies say is co-related to OCD)
>And what’s that like?
Well, imagine a succubi (for some people even can be the other sex you dont like) talks to you and treats you kindly once or twice, and then you start getting way more than just nervous around her because your body starts releasing dopamine, serotonin, and all that shit. And since you don’t know what’s going on, you think you like her or have fallen in love, but its NOT.
really it’s just fucking anxiety toward a “thing.” Because you’re constantly seeking validation in some way—whether for friendship, attention, or love but you have this anxiety that you know is inappropriate, and if you act on it, the feeling of danger gets worse, it’s almost like you’re having a heart attack. and as time pass the thing got worst and worst and you get more obsessive, nerveous and get a peak of anxiety, even start to rumiate or have that thing of limerence (LO) living rent free in your head bacause your brain cant stop thinking about your LO
>What was the worst experience you've ever had?
Even you will end starting to dream with the LO and have happy dreams or nightmares and waking up crying bacause you are getting the peak of anxiety and dopamine,etc sec before waking up. this shit can even ruin friendship.
>Why the hell does this happen?
I don’t know, genetics, anxiety, depression, emotional dependency, low self-steem, negligent parents, love hungry, maybe OCD etc and a whole lot of shit
>You're larping this nonsense
but in my case, it’s not like those internet memes of bitch tumblr succubi where it only happens once and they use like a joke for love or crush
>You're a retard and you fall in love go fuk yourself wizard
No, no it’s happened to me constantly over the Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.307321

>>307270
It doesn't have to be like that wizard. The key to freedom from ocd is to stop fighting.

 No.307329

>>307282
>>307321
its over for me. im in outpatient treatment 5 days a week and get drunk everyday after. im paranoid and have the worst obsessive thoughts. now its time for my 3rd busch light

 No.307330

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>>307205
>around her because your body starts releasing dopamine,

you wouldn't have that if you knew how to make yourself happy. it is you releasing the dopamine that is already in your body. if you knew how to make yourself happy, you wouldn't need the other person to be the key to unlock your happiness.

i also experienced this when i was younger because i was in school were happiness is 'treated' as a problem and you learn it is better not to be happy. this is the seed of corruption. by training you to be unhappy, you become an emotional puppet. regain your strengh man and unlock yourself through meditation.

 No.307331

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I can never enjoy a moment to its full extent. I can never relax. I can never truly feel at rest. I have Tourettic (also known as Just Right) OCD and Pure O OCD, which are the worst kinds to have IMO. CBT doesn't work for these types. And I would rather die than get on meds. I feel like Sissyphus, I am constantly performing labor, every moment of my life. Except unlike Sissyphus I can't crush my head with the boulder. I am my slave and my master. Not even drugs relieve me from it. Sometimes it gets to a point where wearing shoes feels like torture (without any trace of hyperbole) because I sometimes get a compulsion where I need to wriggle all of my toes five times. I inherited this disorder and hypothetically if I were able to get married and have kids I may very well choose not to because I don't want people to experience this burden.
This is hell. I am so exhausted. It started when I was a kid and just rapidly accelerated from there. I didn't know that I was experiencing the last peaceful moments of my life. I never knew peace again. There is no escape aside from death.

 No.307337

>>307273
>I appreciate your understanding Wiz
I don't think I understand OCD. Seems like certain compulsions literally take you over from time to time. Some normie with a healthy brain would probably believe something like this isn't possible or it is exagerated. Going through bizarre mental stuff myself I am inclined to believe OCD is real.
>I can't imagine how awful that must be
I hear a voice in my head which constantly comments on my thoughts, but isn't some kind of dream or fantasy. I have zero control what it says and can't turn it off. I can interact with it like it is a different person. I can clearly sense the difference between my thoughts and these voices. Only other schizophrenics seem to understand how this ruins your life.
>there's no treatment for this other than what they offer for OCD
I don't know what they offer for OCD but antipsychotics don't cure anything, they just tranquilize your entire nervous system.



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 No.305809[Reply]

"Hey wizanon… did you go through a similar thing?"

I will never forgive this world, my ancestors, my genes, my family, those people. I will especially, never forgive myself. My adolesence was robbed from me. I could've eaten better, I could've been stronger, I could've said no to all the evil people who abused me, humiliated me, bullied me, took advantage of me. I can pretend to be happy in moments of fantasy, but my baseline is always depression because I have been robbed so completely.

What did I do to deserve this fate? Who was I in my past life to deserve being in such a position? If I had eaten better, I could've grown to my true height. If I had said no and held steadfast, I could've fought back against them. If I had shown some semblance of courage, I could've made happy memories in my youth.

I am 23 years old. You might say that is young. But I have lost the most important years of my growth and development. I have wasted them by suffering emotionally and physically with no fault of my own. I have wasted them by letting others rob me of what I had, my dignity, my reputation, my identity, my resources. I dropped out of school with so much hope, I was truly so happy, only to suffer far more than I ever have at the hands of forces beyond my control.

No matter what I do now, as much as I would love to believe otherwise, there is absolutely nothing I could do to compensate for what I have lost. Nothing I could do replace those days. Nothing I could do to get back what I lost forever. What's been robbed was meant to be robbed permanently. I can only mourn and ache for the rest of my life, aching for the things I was supposed to have but will never get back.
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 No.307158

>>307156
In his case how is this thought going to help him?

 No.307159

>>305809
>>307152
I have nothing to say to you brother but I feel the same. I relate to this on a deeper level.

 No.307160

hey iam 1.83m and i will get height surgery to make it 1.95m you should KYS now it's over for you

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>>305809
>I am 23 years old. You might say that is young. But I have lost the most important years of my growth and development.
yes, but don't worry, that is all still too little compared to the future

 No.307246

>>305809
Yes, I went through something similar. I regret not running away or hanging myself as a teenager. There is this wish to permanently leave this world through hanging. Soon I will experience what comes after death. If there is nothing I will stop experiencing this nightmare too.



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 No.306157[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Post here if you don't have enough to say for a new thread, but it's too depressing for the crawl thread.
ice cold edition
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 No.307209

>>307193
This board simply isn't for people who still want to get better. If you still want to recover you probably just have mild depression.

 No.307213

>>307201
Who fucking cares? So what if someone dies at 19 or 80? Why is it a problem either way?

 No.307256

>>307022
>>307020
kiwifarms drove him to suicide.

 No.307358

My schizophrenic voices harassing me again. I don't believe they originate from inside my head, but try to talk to people about this idea and it degenerates into "No, absolutely not you schizo and if you think anything outside purely material reality exists you need to kill yourself" or "Yeah I agree! And the pyramids are sending me signals telling me I need to construct the next ark of the covenant in order to summon a star god"

 No.307592

hmmm look at that landscape, it looks so lonely, as if someone could get drepressed there


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 No.306888[Reply]

Hey mages, wizards, posting this here so some may see it instead of just throwing it in a doc somewhere.

I love life. For a period of about two to three years I was empty and melancholic with constant suicidal thoughts. But now I can't hate the world, the struggle of life moves my soul; the clouds, the sea, the stars, flowers, the wind, it all is so amazing to witness. Most of all I love people, for what they can be, seeing the rare phenomenon of a genuine person, be it in person, through their words, or through something they made, tugs at me like nothing else. And it's not like my life has materially gotten much better, I got out of my nagging bitch aunts house but otherwise not much has changed.
But this transformation has only made everything hurt more, going out amongst the normgroids deeply upsets me because they squander themselves for nothing. But even then I cant bring myself to hate how much it hurts.
If you're reading this mage it'd mean a lot to see you chase your dreams, I don't believe in that crap about humans only being able to care about a certain number of people.
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 No.307146

>>307060
Like I said its their potential, what they can be; what they are is disgusting but what they can be is better than anything. You get small glimpses of what is deep inside of people but they are so focused on avoiding discomfort and wallowing in their pleasure they never even try to move towards that.

 No.307147

>>306892
Because I am better than them.

 No.307148

>>306906
You're a fat retard

 No.307149

>>306906
And the reason you're a fat retard is because you're living like an animal. Only animals mindlessly avoid unpleasant sensations, humans go beyond them because we can choose, of our own will, not by conditioning, to not avoid them and even impose them on ourselves. What growth isnt unpleasant? If you're a fatass starving will objectively improve your life yet its unpleasant while continuing to stuff your face is pleasant.

Being a low iq nigger that only thinks about how to feel good isnt smart.

 No.307153

>>307149
>humans go beyond them because we can choose, of our own will, not by conditioning, to not avoid them and even impose them on ourselves
What are you even talking about you dead ass mongoloid, you can choose to impose pain on yourself? Wow of course you can, but this has nothing to do with my argument.
I argued life is terrible because we must endure unpleasant sensations AGAINST OUR WILL, like who the fuck chooses to get cancer? Yet you can be diagnosed with it one day.
We are thrown into the world by our parents and then forced to endure torture or kill ourselves. This is the reality of our world.



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 No.307038[Reply]

Other people make my life unhappy and miserable
I just wanna be left alone
What is worse then having to fight with other people toget what you want every step of the way
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 No.307079

>>307051
Sounds more like a nigger said this

 No.307080

>>307068
ok so?
what can be taken away from that quote?
it's like saying
"a car without fuel is useless"
well yeah duh
so?

 No.307081

>>307080
That's a really stupid interpretation of the statement. There's no need to deduce something so clear to similes involving material utlilty.
>A man who has the knowledge but lacks the power clearly to express it is no better off than if he never had any ideas at all.
Means that doing things ends up getting those things done, while just thinking about doing those things doesn't. There's no reason to revere those who simply think. Such reverence is especially unnecessary in the context of reflection, i.e don't get an ego boner because you know how to solve a problem but are too lazy to actually fix that issue. Your contribution to resolving the issue as someone who knows but does not do is worth the same as that from someone who doesn't know and doesn't do, because they both bring about the same results. tl;dr Do it, faggot.

I can't figure out the quote's relevance to this thread, but on the whole it applies to /dep/ well
>I want to die soo sooo bad and I've learned 500 ways to kill myself from suicide handbooks but I absolutely can not and will not kill myself because uuh willpower or predetermism or my mom will turn me in to a vegetable or something. You must pity me and revere me as though I am someone who actually did take his life though because me and him are like totally the same, in fact I am suffering more than they guy who actually did die.

 No.307084

>>307038
What is worse?
People acting like they know everything about you from taking just one look at you, or from reading just one of your posts. If you take their misguided advice, you will not only fight with other people on your way, but you will be going the wrong way entirely.

 No.307086

>>307044
Extreme laziness, gooning, idling in the comfort zone for too long.



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 No.303825[Reply]

Would they? I've been thinking.

My mom is already LDAR'ing due to the debt and she's already lost one child, so I think either by suicide or stress she would die. My dad? He didn't seem to care that much when my stepbro died, but I am his firstborn. I don't know really. My little brother would probably just turn into me. That's my only concern. Everyone else, would cry for a day maybe.
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 No.305962

>>305829
my parents idea of "parenting" was to constantly inflict these petty torments. I was just thinking the last day how unthinkable it is for me to want to hug my mom. I've long cut off all contact. my life was like a game of running away from gross people

 No.306383

Yes. If I were convinced otherwise I doubt I'd stick around very long. I wouldn't do that to my family though. Or my cat.

 No.306564

Anyone have the opposite, where large portions of their family hate them so much that they'd be actually sniggering and happy at the funeral?

 No.306734

>>303825
My grandma would care. My mom would be mad because having a son kill himself makes her look bad.

 No.307075

>>306564
What did you do bro



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 No.306923[Reply]

I feel an immense disgust with the fact that I inhabit a human body. It manifests most acutely when I must face a physical process in action. Examples being; having to urinate or defecate, or having an erection. Defecating is particularly bad. I become aware that I am a worthless ape. I feel suicidal when I must wipe shit from my anus. Maybe you laugh at reading such a sentence, but it is truly horrible. I feel particularly demoralised and depleted when I realise that normalfags get to experience reality free from this burden. They do not fixate on the weight of their body, the terror of possessing a spine. They are not reminded that they are nothing but an animated flesh puppet when they face sexual arousal. It all feels like a cruel joke.
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 No.306925

I can't relate cuz I really like pooping.

I do hate having a physical body though, but mostly because meatspace is so cumbersome. Having to move around, all the tiny complexities of real life that make things a hassle, tripping, hitting myself against objects in my house, things falling out of my hand, spilling drinks… I also hate how vulnerable my body is, one poke with a sharp object and I'm probably dead, all the gooey stuff just leaks out.

I would much prefer to be a glowing orb of light or some shit, no physical body, just pure MIND. Maybe soon, after I finally rope.

 No.306938

I am incompatible with living on a very deep and fundamental level. I am 30 and I feel like human bodies after this burst of youth and vitality in the teens and twenties are just slow rotting flesh machines which aren't worth living in. To maintain this rotting machine you must waste away at some job for most of your existence. Why should I bother if I can just hang myself ?
You receive this psychological hostility from other humans with lies, gaslighting, petty torment etc. Why shouldn't I just leave ? Finally there is everyday life, everything is dirty, noisy, unpleasant. I can't say I'm unhappy that I am hanging myself.

 No.307006

>>306938
I think much of the despair and nihilism in our culture is due to the fact we almost universally have to go through debilitating old age now. It's weird, in the olden days you could be pretty confident you'd drop dead sometime in your 40s, even the 50s was a gift.

People used to drop dead from disease within a few years of their bodies giving out.

 No.307007

>>307006
Are normies even despairing? They seem to enjoy this soulless and nihilistic behavior.

 No.307032

I always wished I could be a floating shape, like in Flatland. And to emit light at will. I could explore everywhere on earth, travel the bottom of the ocean, wander through forests, explore caves… I'd want to either be a 3d cube or 2d triangle. Eventually I'd go to space to explore and never look back



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 No.306816[Reply]

I have a job, and heaven knows I'm miserable now, I don't have studies and I have a bad arm so i can work but my arm is hurting me.
I really want the job, I don't have anything better to do with my life in this point.
My parents are so proud of me, at least I have a job, but for my arm problem I don't know how many time I will work in this place.
Average normies life sucks, they don't have a beautiful succubus, if they don't have money their life sucks and if they have money they are consumerist zombies.
I want a life with beauty, I want a beautiful succubus, I want to listen beautiful music, play beautiful videogames, read a beautifull book or manga, play the guitar and have a creative job, I really don't understand normies with consumerist or poor life, why to get up, you don't have dreams, you don't have a beautiful succubus, you don't enjoy beauty more than the last iphone and a good house.
Normies life sucks too, but normies believe they are so better than us, and that is wrong.
I really feel suicidal with this thoughts, I don't have the life I want and I don't want to life a life who I hate. I don't want to be a NEET and I don't want to be a normie with a shit work.
Sorry bad English dear wizards.
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 No.306835

>>306831
if there is 1.6 billion jeets out there then doesnt this mean they fuck all the time? you need a lot of sex to produce so many jeets.
also if they do have so many wizards/crabs then how come they dont have their own jeetwizchan? why they come to the human internet?

 No.306837

>>306835
come to think of it jeets who come here tend to be in early 20s, but still i think there should be a few in their 30ish.

 No.307014

I really don't understand why people have to be racist to Indians on here, and I say this as a genuinely racist guy.

So what if Indians post here about their problems? It's a slow board, it's not taking from anything.

 No.307015

>>307014
Accomodate third world users, become a third world website.

 No.307021

>>307014
>I really don't understand why people have to be racist to Indians on here
imagine this: I visit your house and ignore all your rules inside your house and put liquid diarrhea on your carpet straight out of my anus.
the next day I return and do the same thing again.
would you be happy about that?
probably not unless you are indian yourself and live in shit and its normal for you to shit everywhere to increase your izzat score.
So this is what the indian posters do, just look at OP. comes to this male virgin website to write up in broken english, I quote: "I want a beautiful succubus", clearly against the rules.

So why should we tolerate and accept these shitskins here? they dont respect wizchan and its users, they dont respect the rules.



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