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 No.300441[Reply]

The inability to anticipate pleasure but the ability to anticipate effort, hardship leave me in a state of stagnation.

I'm totally normal except that I never felt like going on a trip overseas. Never felt like going to a concert. Never felt like making friends. Never enjoyed talking to others. Never enjoyed cooking meals. I pretty much never enjoyed anything.
My dick barely feels any pleasure too.

You can be born smart and everything but if the pleasure center is all fucked up, you are doomed to spend a life of stagnation. There is no motivation to achieve anything. Time passes away. Years pass by and nothing goes on. No matter how many gifts nature endows you with, if you have a deficiency in the drive/pleasure center, you are doomed to a life of mediocrity.

A life of mediocrity.
Something I know much about at 43 years of age.
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 No.302308

Same here about the dick problems. At first it was just anhedonia, I still had some decent days and could always fap when I wanted a little dopamine. But now? My dick died a few months ago and now cumming is no more enjoyable than pissing. I don't know how I manage to stay alive. It's hell on earth.

 No.302309

>>302296
Music works but also just very strong noise cancelinc earbuds like Bose Quietcomfort or Airpods Pro 2.

I've come to appreciate silence itself. In many cases it's more calming than music. And it drowns out city noise pollution.

 No.302348

>>300501
I feel the same about this.
Some get fucked up by those drugs, but anhedonia for me is just my normality.

 No.302773

>>300441
>You can be born smart and everything but if the pleasure center is all fucked up, you are doomed to spend a life of stagnation. There is no motivation to achieve anything.


come to think of it, this is EXACTLY what quackery fans achieve by eating Kellog's

 No.302777

>>300501
>I don't want to praise this stuff but I never understood why people online say this. You only take these kind of drugs when you are already anhedonic, depressed, dysphoric, numbed, apathetic, emotionally dead, a zombie. In that case they can help. When you are not like, and you feel emotions and drive, they might make you anhedonic, but then you wouldn't take them anyways. So this argument makes no sense to me. The worst that can happen is that they don't change shit.
They can work but sometimes they're prescribed to the wrong people.



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 No.297783[Reply]

i'm 27, i live with my parents, i don't have a job and to be honest i don't give a fuck anymore. i would have wanted to move out 5 years ago, when i had a ton of ambitions, but my fuckin overprotective mother didn't give me a hint of freedom. now they hate me just for being. like everyone else. i used to be good at history and wanted to move in that direction, and now i'm NEET who spends all my free time on the internet and goes to the store once a week. i hate them for not letting me realize myself in a life that i don't see any point in right now.
thank u mom
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 No.302595

>>297783
30 yr old boomerang child here. Yeah parents can suck… but you're 27, not 7. The fuck you mean they dont GIVE you freedom. Freedom isn't given mate. You gotta let it go sometime, it's not helping you.
>i don't give a fuck anymore
clearly you still do.

 No.302626

>>300827
Lacking in coolness?


Somehow, drinking magnesium had helped me before I was told it sounds like some Disco Elysium reference

 No.302771

>>302626
hmmmmm…

*grabs magnesium*

 No.302775

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Does the blackpill make you depressed anons ?

 No.302776

>>302775
It gives me a huge boner but also a headache.



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 No.301913[Reply]

I just wanna share my story.


Whatdver I did to exit the /dep/ zone (for now, at least) and the endless sadness, it all was… random


Getting a job that has no colleagues, and only one boss? Random "warehouse worker needed" entry in a random find-a-job type app

Fixing my sleep? Accidentally discovered here and there what clothing helps me to sleep/what temp is comfortable/how to treat my AC/there is "background noise for sleep" technique/accidentally discovered this "despression may be caused by ruined sleep, studies suggest" theory…


…and so on.


(example: pajamas with a blanked in the summer = bad, empty bedsheet, a t-shirt and undies - okay)
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 No.301929

>>301928
>you made changes and tried new things
well… from my POV, it was like life decided to keep shaking me up till I accidentally bumped into something of an okay state of being.

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>>301928
thanks, wiz fren

 No.302297

>>301917
you see, I had a bullshit life "syndrome" instead of shitty life syndrome


i believe a psychiatrist would slap a "schizo" label on me without fixing my flurry of micro-issue but whatever.

 No.302350

>>301913
>pajamas with a blanked in the summer = bad
orly

 No.302772

>>302350
Context: my apartment has strong heat-insulated walls, which prevent the heat from dissipating quickly. Not everyone live in a home like that, hence the big problem



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 No.302617[Reply]

Given the existence of the hedonic treadmill, why does happiness matter? Why is the pursuit of happiness at all important? If you're just going to level out to baseline anyways, you might as well just sit and rot, since that requires far fewer resources.
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 No.302764

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David Pearce thinks the hedonic treadmill can be overcome with genetic engineering and other biotechnology. Read The Hedonistic Imperative.

 No.302765

>>302764
O.K., since we currently have none of that, why does chasing happiness matter NOW?

 No.302766

>>302765
Chasing happiness matters because it affirms the self. If you are sad and someone tells you to cheer up and smile, it's not because they're a hedonistic hylic attempting to trap you in this realm. It's because they want you to actualize even the slightest amount of external energy such that it may affect your mood and ideally make someone else happy as well. If others around smile in turn when they see you, this creates electricity between humans. We are just nodes in a grid looking for signals which can be processed and received, we are literally no different from insects except for the fact that we can somewhat act independent of our base wants and needs. Pursuing happiness means you gain better control of your emotions, and it shifts that "baseline" you mention up in the same way that a routine lifter will, over time, expend less effort moving the same amount of weight. There was a series of videos done by some old lady on youtube a while back as therapy, and all she did was laugh in them for several minutes. To you or I it seems weird but it's probably one of the most self-affirming actions you could take, to broadcast happiness to the world and allow anyone to view you in a state of pure, unadulterated joy. Someone could be depressed, they could never make anyone happy besides themselves, but neither of these things would lead to a zero sum outcome. You can be sad inside and make things improve overall by forcing a happy state. You can feel contentment in the face of cruel, unjust world and block out any negative reinforcement. That's how powerful people actually are when they stop thinking in loaded terminology and acknowledge free will as it pertains to who we are and how we choose to function.

 No.302767

>>302617
>If you're just going to level out to baseline anyways
This hasn't happened in my case. My baseline happiness level has clearly changed over time and hasn't just been a constant level throughout my entire life as you claim. I had severe depression for years that gradually lessened over time. Your concept of "pursuit of pleasure" that flattens out over time sounds like it's just collecting materialistic crap and consuming media.

 No.302768

>>302617
>Given the existence of the hedonic treadmill, why does happiness matter? Why is the pursuit of happiness at all important? If you're just going to level out to baseline anyways, you might as well just sit and rot, since that requires far fewer resources.
You buy this and you'll be happy, you do that (for me) and you'll be happy. It doesn't exist.

I meditate to try to slow the hedonic treadmill and try to enjoy just being.



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 No.296811[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

2025 will be the layoff year edition. How we holding up?

previous >>289727
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 No.302761

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these dumbass greedy companies think they can increase workload without increasing staffing or wages. Sick of this less is more bullshit and they cant blame COVID anymore. My office has been on a downward spiral with everyone quitting now. We need a new revolution I swear.

 No.302762

>>302748
It doesn't help that every influencer or YouTuber has a rainbet sponsorship

 No.302763

I realized what makes so many jobs so shit.

In my experience a lot of the inefficiencies and promotion of those banal petty types, who quickly surround themselves with ballbag sycophants, does help maintain a monopoly or duopoly in an area, paradoxically.

If competitive pressures are off, poisoning the industry for anyone with ambition and common sense makes them fuck off to where the pasture is greener in other industries. If these companies did operate lean and efficient and have a healthy workflow, eventually someone good with enough experience will have everything he needs to strike it out on his own, and take a lot of now-good staff with him. People only really go out on their own when they have a taste of the industry, in many niches that can be prevented by poisoning the environment.

If the environment is completely toxic and the staff turnover is constant, people do struggle to break in. Plus the feudal-minded managers who have a cluster of sycophants will never jump ship as long as they get their egos satisfied and be the king of their domain. The toxicity does come with stability and loyalty, in a roundabout way. It's similar to how autocratic societies achieve stability.

 No.302781

>>302763
axaxaxax found a source of monopoly cool

 No.302814

Another day at work, another day of witnessing the retardation of the general public. Case in point: A dumbass takes a plastic cup and asks to buy $1 worth of gas. He ends up putting the gas in the cup, then digs into the trash and pulls out a bottle, and puts the gas that he had in the cup into the water bottle he got out of the trash. Then he tried to fill his gas tank with the bottle of gas he got earlier, and I never saw him again. Hopefully it stays that way.


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 No.299535[Reply]

I want to shoot myself in the head with a gun on a crowded street
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 No.302726

Those who are acquainted with The Source do not any longer feel a desire to harm themselves

 No.302729

>>302726
Life is harm

 No.302732

>>299535
me too but i dont have a gun

 No.302738

>>302729
Undoubtedly, but the Source is a balm

 No.302753

>>299536
Pure cope. There is nothing good in this hellhole. Consciousness itself is bound to suffer, it is a direct consequence of having autonomy. Every choice you make is an attempt to make your situation a little more bearable. Every "good" you experience is a temporary relief of the suffering that underpins all life.

If life were good in itself, you should be able to just lay down forever and be happy, even if it were plain neutral, you would have no need to take any action. Life is a fight against the inevitable, a fight that cannot be won. You are deluding yourself by telling yourself one should hope because the alternative is unbearable to you. This helps nobody. You are calling for the continued torture of others, just to make yourself feel better.



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 No.302707[Reply]

I don't understand people who say we live in incredible times or that the world is getting better (pedophile morons like Steven Pinker, to put it mildly).
This image. This aberration to the eye. This is how 50-80% of the population lives in the most powerful and richest nation on the planet (or at least close to/similar to this).
This is the "pinnacle" of 6,000 years of recorded civilizational history. If this is how the majority of the US population lives, imagine how poor and miserable the majority of humanity really is.
If it weren't for East Asia, the world would be even worse.
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 No.302709

now, compare THIS to 1910s slums, and I am not talking about war-torn cities - just slums. The stench. The diet. The biohazards!

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 No.302715

>>302709
The only reason we haven't returned to those levels of human decadence is because of cheap Asian manufacturing.

 No.302717

My response to everyone that says 'just work for amazon or walmart' was always disgust. And it's always the same people that never had to work retail or warehouse jobs - they shop there, like the lower prices, but are blind to the harm caused to save $0.14 on that bottle of glass cleaner.

 No.302730


>>302707
>If this is how the majority of the US population lives, imagine how poor and miserable the majority of humanity really is.





Dude.
USA is a crazy place already.

Some funny land like Andalusia or Iberian Mountains or such can be "richer" in terms of cheap rent, cozier living, better mental state of people…



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 No.302609[Reply]

The costs of lives burdens is meant for the backs of two so how does one prosper alone?
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 No.302722

>>302696
sexo with schizoid-chan

 No.302723

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>>302696
>Have Schizoid Personality Disorder.
It's not a personality disorder. It's a personality type and it's one of nature's vital archetypes. Schizotypality is nature's answer to the "Putting all of your eggs in one basket" problem. When the volcano erupts, it is the schizoid group who survives by being out on a boat fishing alone. Filthy socialites at the volcano party get toasted to crispy, retard normie stacies at the part fried burnt

 No.302724

to a damn crisp

 No.302725

>>302696
But what if I don't really have a Schizoid Personality Disorder? But instead, I'm actually just autistic and overly obsessed with Schizoid Personality Disorder?

 No.302728

>>302723
Problem is, that's also "schizo"



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 No.293203[Reply]

I'm going broke, and I really don't know how to deal with this fact. I went to 4 doctors to treat it, but none of them worked, and no matter how many medications I took, I was never able to overcome this problem. But these only caused me terrible side effects, such as fatigue, weight gain, apathy, a lot of disinterest in everything, and alopecia, but they were never able to attack the impulses. Violence never stops.
Sometimes I blame my family for raising me in such a violent environment, but then I think it's better to bury the past and look forward. But sometimes it is difficult, since it is not about the violence of 10 or 15 years ago, it is about things sometimes from less than a week ago.

I feel like an alcoholic, where instead of keeping a place free of that poison, it is offered to me in all shapes, sizes, colors and flavors.
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 No.302655

The only annoying thing about balding is needing to have haircuts every week or so otherwise the normies will complain EVEN MORE about you for being more ugly than normal. I love my current job as I get to wear a hat all day so i don't have to worry about HR visits because some retarded dumb whore complained about me for looking like a creep

 No.302670

>>302654
And who is on the committee that choses the recipients of the Noble prize? Fuck's sake, they gave one to Barak Obama for basically just existing. The Nobel prize is to 'smart people' what the Oscars are to film, the prize winners are chosen by biased committees to try to convince the masses that a certain person or piece of work is of exceptional quality. Nobel doesn't mean shit these days. Try again.

 No.302672

>>302670
Something I've always thought of that I've NEVER heard anyone note in the history of science:
You can see all the pro-Republican scientists have a lot of "their work" published during Napoleon's reign. Then, when the monarchists come back, all of a sudden it's pro-Monarchist scientists who have a lot of "their work" published. When you dig into it, they both had the same teams and students working underneath them.
There's a lot of essentially graduate student slave labor that never get credit, that has been going on for centuries if not millenia.

 No.302703

>>302654
A bunch of Soviet scientists have pulled out this exact move of ditching exUSSR for Promised Land, heh. Not really surprised are recognised as kosher people.

 No.302706

>>298807
Yes, it's a social death that can lead to serious mental health issues including suicidal tendencies.



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 No.302665[Reply]

had a schizophrenic crisis 6 years ago. because of that I lost 6 years of my life and also the second part of my youth. this will never come back and it just ruined my life. there's nothing I can do but be sad about that and cope.
I lost my ability to enjoy things and starting new things. I also lost good years of maybe school or training I could have done and get a job, but now all I can wish now is to have a bad job because it is all what I deserve.
in two years I'll be a wizard and all my dreams have been crushed by the schizophrenic happening.
all these years, wasted and will never comeback. of course some of you may have it worse but to me this happening crushed my soul and made me more depressed than before.
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 No.302678

>>302676
was working at the factory. out of nowhere I started being paranoid and thinking my neighbours hacked all my family's devices and mine too and they could see everything we did on our phone, computers and they could see us through our tv. I didn't have visual illusion but audible illusion. I was tricked that my neighbors was mocking me and my family because of what we do on our devices (moundain shit). I went crazy and very depressed because of this and went to the psychic yard for this. I only recovered 2 or 3 years ago fully

 No.302687

Yeah you lost good years but an apprenticeship is like what?
2 to 5 years? You could also enroll in community college and get a degree in accounting or something.

To make up for those lost years, you could do volunteering like a few hours a month just to pad your resume. If you do a few hours a month while your getting your diploma, that will look good on your resume.

On top of that you can just say you had health issues. Almost everyone has a relative or knows of someone who had issues.

 No.302688

I'm in an almost similar situation as you are but I am 43 and it's too late for me.

I'm on disability. No friends. Lost contact with relatives except my mother. I've spent all my isolated, browsing the internet.

If you don't do something, there is a good chance you will end up like me. It's not fun being on disability in your 40s. People look down at you and you are unemployable except jobs like stacking grocery store shelves. I have so little social experience, I'd probably end up getting bullied.

Get out while you can.

 No.302693

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>>302687
yes, I'll just say I had health issues if someone asks me why I wasn't working for 6 years straight.
>>302688
I was about to say that I hope it will be good for me but after reading your comment, well, I wish YOU all the hopes of the world to help you instead of me. I feel embarassed of my situation because you might suffer more than I

 No.302701

>>302693
You got it. Officially speaking, I've been in college for around 5 years without graduating and I'm trying to get an apprenticeship now at age 27. I will also just tell them that I had health issues. HR usually isn't allowed to ask any further than that.



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