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 No.296605[Reply]

If you've been depressed I'm sure you have at some point been blamed for it as if it was a deliberate choice.

"You enjoy being miserable."
"You are simply a lazy person unwilling to put in the effort or think you are above it"
"You don't really want anything"
"You are spoiled"
"You are a parasite dodging responsibility"

I think it's an unwillingness to try to understand other people and the belief that the world is fair and everyone gets what they deserve. I think what looks like laziness is a lack of a focused goal and lack of confidence and positive reinforcement. But I am biased being depressed myself so idk.

 No.296607

People are of course just horrible and unable to understand. "Laziness", depressions, lack of energy, lack of motivation etc. are all obviously consequences of other things that have happened such as bad parenting and bad genetics

 No.296609

i wouldn't moralize it, but depression is definitely a choice, albeit somewhat unconscious. there's an internal calculation going that basically tells you giving up on reality is the best you can do for now. until the circumstances change or you find a way to see things differently, shifting the equation in a direction that results in positive action, you're basically stuck in limbo.

depression is definitely bitter sweet. there is a sick enjoyment in it if you're being honest with yourself. yes, you're "miserable" but you're exchanging these negative emotions for something much worse. staying in bed and ruminating is much preferable to going outside in the world, doing something meaningless that's forced upon you or playing a game that you know is impossible to "win".

ultimately, it's just a reaction to your circumstances. you shut down, because the alternative just seems worse to you, whatever "normalcy" or "well-adjustedness" people are pushing on you. despite the misery, you'd rather stay depressed than give them what they want.

 No.296615

On the other hand, there are people who seem to remain happy in any circumstances. Many of them are shallow people who give advice like "just smile and you'll feel better :)" or "just pretend you're having fun until you feel it :)"

 No.296622

I think that depression is more of a by-product of worldviews that promote meaningless in life. The logical conclusion in such worldviews is to kill yourself.
It's another topic whether or not these worldviews are even justifiable in the first place.

 No.296648

if by morals you mean partaking in the solidarity of society morals are a spook that nobody abides by but everybody uses to shame others with. if I had enough financial and psychological foundation to remain a weight on the back of societal filth without having to deal with it I'd 100% do that. it's not even an extreme position. everyone knows it's far better to do that since all they dream about is early retirement and a home in the middle of nowhere.



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 No.293203[Reply]

I'm going broke, and I really don't know how to deal with this fact. I went to 4 doctors to treat it, but none of them worked, and no matter how many medications I took, I was never able to overcome this problem. But these only caused me terrible side effects, such as fatigue, weight gain, apathy, a lot of disinterest in everything, and alopecia, but they were never able to attack the impulses. Violence never stops.
Sometimes I blame my family for raising me in such a violent environment, but then I think it's better to bury the past and look forward. But sometimes it is difficult, since it is not about the violence of 10 or 15 years ago, it is about things sometimes from less than a week ago.

I feel like an alcoholic, where instead of keeping a place free of that poison, it is offered to me in all shapes, sizes, colors and flavors.
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 No.295566

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>>294848
>>294864
This week I had a breakthrough and going outside without covering myself stopped scaring me. It was a natural progression that started with showing how I look now in familiar places. I might not be the prettiest, but that does not mean I have to shut myself in. Thanks for the kind words, it made the difference.

>>295276
You are right. I had self-esteem issues even before I noticed I am losing my hair, this only amplified it. There are more battles to come, good luck to you too.

Sorry for bumping another balding thread, lol. It is a coincidence.

 No.295667

>>293203
Do you coom? It is a factor.

 No.296632

You take finasteride or dutasteride, that's the only thing that prevents balding

 No.296635

>>295566
I heard sardines help a lot to improve hair, try eat them at least once a day, but maybe it is too late for your hairline

 No.296647

>>295667
I heard cooming messes with your DHT levels(fin controls DHT), would rather have hair than coom.



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 No.296636[Reply]

Hello, wizards. Do you remember the moment when you was born? I dont remember too. Lets not speak about processes in babies brain, Im here to ask you a question. Have you ever think about how the first -homo was scared when he realized his existence?
Its fucking insane how trivally kid making has become. When I ask my mother, why she decided to make family and born me, she said some shit about glass of water, giving joy of life to someone; something about peak of love between man and succubus and so on. And now imagine to realize the moment of born. Realize, that you was brought from eternal dark… "here". I dont speak about antinatalism, though I like the idea. I speak about dread of giving and taking life. I already have tread here, called "Siberian apprentice shizo ideas". Its about self consciousness. And I would like to connect it to that post.

And now, lets forget about biology. Lets think about world where kids born already conscious. Their scream is not about pain. Its about realisation of their parents …punishment on them. Its about being doomed, being a cell on a mad and cruel Gods body, who rot in all dimensions, in past, in future.

Actually, I want to bring all my thoughts in order and write a small book or article cycle about shit in my head. If you find it interesting, let me know and I will translate it from Russian to let you read it.

 No.296642

Yes, life is eternally running away from the meat grinder. You can't stop moving or it will get you. With a lot of effort you can gain some distance from the grinder, but it will get you eventually. Then your body will be decomposed, the matter that makes it up will be broken up, dissolved, and absorbed by other organisms. Your point of view will no longer receive inputs from senses, even the sense of time will be lost. Before you know it, a new body will be assembled for you, and your point of view will get caught up in it, and you'll be ready for the next ride :)



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 No.295458[Reply]

I mean, what can you really say?
Why not? Why not stop the fucking charade if you're really ready? Because some cunt on the internet types to you "it gets bedder bro!" But what if it doesn't.
It may not get better. It may only get worse. You may only grow in your perception of life's falsity, it's vanity, it's total fucking bushtit. And really, who cares? Every life, every person is a small fry. One fucker offing himself does nothing to the global balance, it only improves his being and eases his burden of bearing of the cross of life's woes.
So why not? Why not end it?
I don't because my life is easy enough and replete with enough worthless time wasters to keep myself interested a little bit longer. But what happens if and when those run out? What happens when the well of whiskey and other distractions fails me?
A rope, a running car in the garage, a 357. to the skull, whatever. Just make it quick and easy to clean up.
Any what's the loss anyways? Nothing, there was nothing to begin with.
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 No.296460

>>296407
Poisonous plants exist everywhere. You can find some water hemlock that will kill you within an hour or so with a high dose. Kids die often from picking up the stems and using them as pea shooters, that's how toxic they are.

You can go an hour away from civilization without a mobile phone, eat a lethal dose and have a guaranteed death.

 No.296484

curse be upon the day I was born

 No.296524

>>295709
>>295851
>>296203
>>296270
>more masculine suicide methods
>those normalfags are too mainstream for suicide imho
>I'm going to commit suicide if i don't get NEETbux. if Putin, Kabala etc.
Is this how a thread about suicide should look like? Are these suicidal people?

 No.296583

I'm so stupid that I'm dangerous to everyone around me. Because of saying dumb shit my whole family will turn against me if they're not against me already

 No.296597

>>296460
hemlock deaths aren't pleasant



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 No.296532[Reply]

Do you have good or bad experiences in your host country or do you feel accepted or tolerated in the society of the country? Have you had problems because you were a foreigner? Can you tell us about them?
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 No.296577

>>296572
>you're also an immigrant, you should feel empathy about them, they're in the same situation as you but darker skin
I'm not a nationalist (=government worshiper). I see borders as a fake and gay legalistic scam, what matters is the natural division, race.
>>296574
Autogynephilia, an alleged fetish about being turned on by imagining oneself as a succubus, which allegedly is the origin of many trannies.

 No.296578

>>296577
are race real, aren't they? sounds fake psyops to me

 No.296580

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>>296578
There's no way they aren't. And I don't even know how you can call it a psyop despite all the modern propaganda about race mixing and being "anti-racist" and whatnot.

 No.296585

I got bullied by spics for being white.

 No.296586

>>296585
we whites need to team up to defend ourselves
we need to form a great white co-operative



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 No.295957[Reply]

At what point is it objectively justifiable to give up? I'm 21 (nearly 22) and I've only worked dead end jobs and never even come close to being in a relationship with anyone. I tried, but there's just been so many negative experiences in my life (mostly from other people) that led me to being a shut in schizoid. I alternate between shaking with rage at my predicament and being completely numb. It's weird, I used to be such a happy kid with a bright future and now I'm just a future suicide case wading through life as if I'm on borrowed time. Anyone else feel like a animal trapped in a cage? I literally only passively exist like a fucking hamster; if I died right now, I'd be forgotten in 6 months max.
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 No.296545

>>296528
It wasn't easy for the Fullmetal Alchemist either.

 No.296546

>>296545
I was even harder for Naruto.

 No.296549

2000 was the last cut off year for any decent human beings. people born after 2004 werent even able to put together sentences properly before the brainrot set in with social media and smartphones

me? i remember when houses had a "computer room"

 No.296552

Speak to me zoomie baby, tell me where it hurts…

I was in your shoes a few years ago and buddy let me tell you it only gets worse

 No.296557

>>296448
what was the last thing you enjoyed? research it, find out if there are sequels, prequels, looks for fan communities and see what they like, look up the people who worked on that game or movie or whatever, and see if they have any more works
if you get tired of consuming, you can try creating fanart like drawings or memes, but just fantasizing in your head is a good start, it will exercise your imagination and distill the things you really like from the things you like not so much about the media
you shouldn't rely on expecting good things to just come to you, it never works that way



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 No.294748[Reply]

I'm so fucking ugly and disgusting
It's painful to look myself in the mirror
I wanna kill myself
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 No.296513

>>296509
>literally no one understands my pain
they owe you nothing, just treat bluepilled normcattle (and succubi) like things/bots
>I will write more about the fact about how looks impact your entire life
good, i also want to hear what you think about voluntarily celibacy in particular

 No.296514

>>296510
Try being short in Europe.

Zoomer succubi age 11 are 20cm (7 inches) taller than you as a grown adult man and look down at you.

It's like living in some kind of hell.

 No.296515

>>296514
how do they grow so tall?

 No.296517

>>296515
americans are taller

 No.296529

>>296515
In places like the Netherlands or Montenegro (where avg. zoomer girIs are close to 180cm or 6ft) I assume it is the very protein heavy diet, lots of meat, cheese, yoghurt.

Combined with sexual hypergamy (the requirements of being a potential dad candidate height-wise increasing every generation).



 No.296506[Reply]

Cold weather makes me sick my lungs don't tolerate cold air, I hate winter, I have to sleep with three blankets and wear heavy jackets

I wish I was dead

 No.296507

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Buy a space heater. I got one last year and it's very nice. I live in an apartment and they always wait too long to turn on the heat and always turn off the heat too early. With the space heater I never have to worry about it. I have it right under my desk so my feet are always toasty warm.

 No.296508

i use a halogen heater and its a fucking death trap

if I stop posting here its cuz my halogen heater set fire to my house and I perished in the flames

 No.296519

>>296506
Literally me, it Even hurts my nose, winter nights worsen my sleep issues in Many ways



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 No.296358[Reply]

it makes me sad I can't create things I like. I always procrastinate and I always did d
my whole life so far. It happened at very young age; I didn't want to go to school nor learn at home or do my homework. I was always playing flash games on the computer or play ps2 or nintendo DS and after that ps3. I didn't lile myself for that and itt continues nowdays. I don't know why I proscratinate. I hate doing things, in fact I was never used to that. I've never learn doing things by myself, always mom or dad did things for me, my mom did the cooking and my dad told me to do sport. I never listened, I just stayed at home in front of my tv. oh yeah the TV…watching programs in my bedroom all night long…it was comfy, at night you weren't bothered by others because I was kind of alone (my brother was sleeping) in front of the tv with no remorse of doing so because it was comfy and calm.
I think it's because of tv, video games and internet (smartphone addiction came way late).
when I discovered 4chan, I knew there will be no turning back: I totally "internetized" now. I'm am completly focuses on internet everyday. now it's not 4chan but wizchan I use and for a good reason: no succubi wanted me, maybe because I was too poor…all these factors made me a procrastinate person. when you're poor there'snt so much to do besode doing your home work and going to sport. no music lesson, or traveling during vacancy (just stay at home).
I know it's my fault and I know why it's because I didn't had MY things. I wish I had a computer just for me.
Anyway, in few years, I'll be 30 with no-skill wizard because it will be too late.
I wanted to know how to draw (but when I tried my drawings were so unmatch I gave up)
I wanted to create a video game (I tried some with rpg maker but I didn't made shit, just few maps and some events)
I wanted to do a lot of sport
(I wish I wasn't shy, which killed the social part of my life; so no sport because fear of others)
music playing (piano guitar drums, all I wanted to do was those but no money, family too poor)
science
(I really like science but am a brainlet)
technology and computers and coding
(I tried python, all I did was the hello world)
in fact I'm waiting a miracle to happen to me so I can do things and not procrastinating but I know it will not come: I don't leave my house, so no miracle for me.
Nowdays all I do is posting in wizchan and watch youtube vPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.296457

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I'm tired I always get mocked or put down by others. sucks to be treated as a punching-ball

 No.296465

>>296360
>Finally I will say that if you are:
Not him. But let's try to instead consider a realistic American.
>-physically healthy/normal
You should instead assume he is prediabetic, has at least one autoimmune disorder that will either cause cancer or cause organ damage before he turns 50, and has significant tendon atrophy that will prevent vigorous full body exercise within 4 to 8 years. That's only if we treat him as a normal American, and without reference to lifestyle disorders that are likely to be more common in longterm social abjects or NEETs.
>-don't have any chronic pain problems
It would be more fair to assume he has mild chronic pain in one of the following locations:
-Feet
-Elbows
-Knees
However, I have found that there is a significant number of posters on this site who have chronic pain in the following other locations:
-Neck
-Shoulder
-God save you if this is your case, but jaw and tooth.
>-domiciled in a safe house
This is in practice never the case and I have no idea why you would make that as an assumption. Do you mean "a housing standards act compliant apartment with no visible black mold" instead?
>-fed and clothed
Food prices and food stamp program restrictions usually mean major compromises on the more important of these two. Even the most well known nutritional disorder on Earth, scurvy, is currently making a major comeback. It was already on the rise from 2016 through 2020, mostly in individuals with Autism Spectrum disorders:
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20240719/Scurvy-on-the-rise-in-the-United-States-Pediatric-cases-triple-in-five-years.aspx
–but, man, in 2020-22 grocery stores were selling oranges with mold on their skin and lifestyle/spending adjustments met with prices to make increases in scurvy cases a fact-of-life for commoners.

 No.296503

>>296361
mostly death just like everyone else anon, you're running out of time, just make sure you love and take care of yourself

 No.296504

>>296503
But loving myself is gay, since that means loving a man as a man.

 No.296693

>>296465
Basically all of this describes me, including the tooth pain. (not OP)



 No.296062[Reply]

This is something that has been happening for a while, earlier I used to speak my opinions and type my opinions on the internet.

I was good at speaking, good at putting my point forwards, good at arguing, was witty and could think of replies to questions or things almost instantly.

These days it's like I have forgotten how to speak or even write. Like my parents are abusive, and earlier I was able to write/type down my feelings about my parents. But now, it's like someone asks me "How are they abusive?", I just can't explain anymore.

And this is a very recent phenomenon. Like I can't even type and be an internet keyboard warrior online.

I no longer put my opinion forwards, I no longer have anything left to say, I just don't understand what's happening with me. Like earlier I used to always have something to say, could always carry a conversation offline and online. But now I just do nothing and have nothing to say.

Is there anyone who has suffered from this? Is there any way to cure this? I need to cure this so that I can fit in better in professional and interpersonal world. So that I can earn money to feed myself and at least have some irl friends to shoot the shit with.
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 No.296209

>>296088
With me it's probably because of diminishing ability. Like I have forgotten how to elaborate on the topic, like if I say that my parents are abusive or that looks determine your life and someone then further asks like how are your parents abusive and how do looks determine your life. Like I have the answers to these questions but I don't know how to put them in words. I don't know how to answer them even if somewhere I know the answer.

 No.296226

>>296209
I think it's much more likely that you subconsciously recognized that talking about these things and arguing never really changes anything substantially, it doesn't improve your life, you know that you held and hold the truths about these matters but repeating the arguments and shit talking and talking about for the sake of proving something to yourself simply became obsolete and useless. You need to replace these things, which in the mean time you have positively answered and proved to yourself and which don't need more elaboration and time waste, with new, useful things that improve your life instead of lamenting and be in self pity.

 No.296228

>>296226
I think it's partly what you said that there is nothing I could accomplish just by talking about them, but it is frustrating not being able to explain my predicament, like someone online asked me "How exactly were your parents abusive?" and it's frustrating as I can't write down the answers.

 No.296495

Any ideas on how I can regain the skill to elaborate my thoughts clearly while writing or speaking? I didn't had this problem earlier, as earlier I was able to do all of this quite easily.

 No.296502

>>296495
It's spirits all the way down, spirits give the ability to do many things. You've lost a spirit of clear thinking or writing or something. I've experienced somewhat the same issue, and got a taste of it back. Take heart, your condition is easily fixed, but will depend on your submission.



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