/dep/ - Depression

>>308843
I don't really deny any of this. And genes do play a significant role, including in the development of temperament and reactions to traumatic social experiences, as in the OP. But how accurately can you predict something like this? Even if you're neurotic, you can certainly learn to cope with this. And you're unlikely to predict the success of the learning until you try.
Genetic testing can reveal a lot, but we still can't predict someone's fate 100%. Moreover, genes reveal more about predispositions.

Has anything really bad happened to any of you? Can you tell?
Because it happened to me. Probably the worst one possible.

>>308846
You first.

>>308846
>Probably the worst one possible.
i doubt it, but tell me

>>308844
>we still can't predict someone's fate 100
you don't need 100%, 98% is enough. the other 2% account for some physics shenanigans that aren't predictable mathematically, such as a car starting to skid and hitting you to death (the good outcome).

>>308714
>>308709
IIRC those suicide hotlines used to exist back in the payphone days.

Too bad you cannot realistically find a payphone these days but some are still out there

>>308714
They only exist as a weapon to screen out desperate people who could do unpredictable harm to the owning class.

The intent was never to help you. As someone macabrely described above, they will even hang up on you right as you are about to end your life once their 12 minute allocation for you is used up.

The only way they will stay on the line longer is if they suspect you might lash out against property or third parties so they can report you, or in extreme cases hold you on the line long enough so you can be triangulated, geolocated and swatted.

>>308731
I know they were dirty and expensive but payphones strangely seem to have soul and character to me. Smartphones are so boring.

no they suck, i called one once and they sent the cops to my house and they drove me to the psych ward.

Its pretty useless

The queues are always stupidly long too, i have sometimes had to wait hours just for some miserable lady to pick up and give me "motivational poster" ass advice

>>308800
I once realized I hate using celly for the Internet surfing for a reason. Once I realised I just want toboth blast my radio and watch some educational/"EduTaiment" video at the same time, my life has shifted for the best.

I probably should get a shover radio also.

I reckon that's exactly why people buy "bone conductivity headphones" - you basically can use they along with your earbuds

For the 1% people reading this, i hope you become successful in your life.

lowkey the best part of imposter syndrome is the whole song ??

"Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see." — Mark Twain

kindness is just a lets-team-up signal. if either side doesn't really mean to team up then it's wasted. there's also no guarantee either side won't lose interest in future which means kindness only lasts as long as both parties are in need of teammates.

>>308563
I also read they can put a tube in your nose permanently and push food down your throat with a pump.

I really regret postponing my attempt in april, now it's june and I'm still here

>>308564
They don't need to. They can give you enough proteins, fats and vitamins through IV injection indefinitely.

Any ideas on how to commit suicide by hanging? I wonder what sort of rope, knot, techique and place would be the best. I heard that with a good arrangement you can snap your neck and die painlessly, but honestly since it seems to involve so much technique I tend to think that just regular hanging could be better. I'm only afraid of fucking that up too and ending up as a veggie or suffocating for two hours before passing out.

>>308806
I have experience in this. I've successfully killed myself several times via hanging. You need to read "The Peaceful Blackpill Handbook", "The Art of Not Living", and "Fun With A Razorblade by Big Gay Andrew Loomis". Once you do that you can ask ChatGPT for the best rope and height configuration for your IQ. Then you'll need to apply for a suicide license and pray to g*d that your therapist hasn't told your psychiatrist anything that would suggest you're only suicidal for a reason that SSRIs could instead cure. There is 0% chance the Demiurge will let you die if you don't hang yourself exactly as prescribed. You'll end up as a vegetable, or worse, a fruit.

>>308658
Alcohol delirium is soon, m8

Avoid quitting cold turkey too.

>>308658
I'm an anxious wreck so when something bad happens I almost immediately start hitting the sauce to chill out.

My best and worst moments in life have been due to drinking.

If I did not drink at all my life would have been boring and safe, which is probably better honestly. You only need to do something retarded once and your life is ruined.

>>308710
i could say the same about anime. watching anime is safer than drinking alcohol, though

I've discovered taking 2000mg of NAC is an excellent hangover treatment. It's also helped me sleep better and feel more sharp. I've also been taking B1 to treat headaches as alcohol saps that from your system.

Ideally I'd have some magnesium as well but I ran out.

How many beers do you have a month? I'm on beer 122 right meow.

>>305893
I think you may have far-sighted eyes. Which means you need reading glasses.

Regards, a near-sighted person who needs regular glasses.

I have finally realized something. The Internet now is overwhelming in terms of making a myriad of small decisions every time you want to do something poorly decined. Say, every time you just want to watch a *tube video to pass some time or scout for *something* that's interesting, you have thousands of videos to choose from and they're all "interesting".

The digital rabbit hole is real.

Next time you go to a computer, you make a short idea of what are you going to watch.

"Just spending 20 minutes watching 1 old short comedy movie from 1970s" or
"I need to look up how to sync up my old pc and new laptop"

If you want to try a new recipe, you may try to go to a nice bench near your local shop, and look up some recipes when you're near a store, not in the comfort of your home. (That's my guess, though, not a serious tested idea of living)

>>308749
>to do something poorly decined
>decined

Both "poorly defined" and "poorly decided" $(confused_smile_here)

>>305598
I recommend you to do what I do - watch old movies, play old games, read old books. Forget that the world around you is in the 2020s.

Watch youtube videos about the 20th century western world or Japan. Read old VNs. As long as you aren't a wagie, living in the past is possible.

>>305598
Same as most others here I suggest you just try and emulate the lifestyle of that era for yourself. Use modern tech only as much as you have to. I have a smartphone but it pretty much sits unused in a drawer, I only still own it because I'm forced to have a 2FA app for my bank. My computer screen is almost two decades old, small compared by modern standards and not even 1080p resolution. The last AAA game I played was Battlefield 4 and my PC probably wouldn't even run any of the modern Unreal Engine type shit even if I wanted to. The books and novels I buy these days are mostly pre 2010s, many even pre 2000. I really enjoy reading stories set in those times, before the internet was mainstream, when people still used flip phones or phone booths. Where the cops can't just look up someones location history or track them through CTV, where people can just disappear by buying a plane ticket in cash to nowhere. Also, a lot of modern writing just feels off to me a lot of the times. I think it's the internet-lingo seeping into stories and settings where it has no place and ruin the immersion.
I still use the computer more than I'd like, I watch a lot of shows idly. My goal is to spend more time learning to draw or reading or fuck, just sitting in the garden and zoning out. But I definitely understand your feelings regarding this. The modern technology age is too overstimulating, fast paced, addictive, overproduced. I'm also just sick of technology being put into everything because of the still prevailing notion that anything and everything is better by having a computer or touch screen in it. Self-check outs, order kiosks, the lack of buttons and dials in cars and so on. So in essence, only use technology you absolutely have to in order to survive, anything else you have to be extremely selective about.

i succeeded at being a hopeless linuxoid. checkmate, evil god.

>>308644
I got some little rats and they just need to be pushed together.
I think I managed to get them off the plastic frame rather nicely.
Maybe try some of those?

>>308707
Mate, I literally keep a book of coincidence-like events in my life.

Sometimes, there are several of them in one go. Sometimes, there are little to none. And sometimes I am just too sleepy to get out of my bed to write it down…

>>308707
>>308751


when i was young i tried to dismiss it as random, or a coincidence, or just bad luck;

curses, thats silly or crazy! lol

Old man me, i am 100% sure i am under some kind of curse. and i talked to a stereotype gypsy lady, told me believed multiple family generational curses were all landin on and endin on me, and it was why my life was so fuckin weird. Didnt want to be involved, said it could jump on to people tryin to fuck w/ it for me.

But told me, take a bath, literal, in salt water, and helps if its Sea Salt. Could add other stuff, but salt was most effective.

i feel now, most of us are probably cursed.

100 years back, 500 years back, men w/ lives as fucked as ours we d be told, o yea so and so is cursed, talk to the town elder for solution to break it.

But, in our modern time we re told. Dude Serious, a curse, cmon its 2020s its BS.

i 1,000% believe im cursed and looked for a way to break it. Salt bath helps a lot, for me

>>308765
>salt

No way mate

Salt. A thing used to draw boundaries against spirits turns out to help you with your curse. Interesting.

>>308522
I meant like sacrificing a safer path to chase your dreams or something. I guess not all self-improvement paths require quitting your job. I don't know what you want to achieve so I am mostly talking about myself. I wanted to learn an interesting skill like math or art and make money or something and I don't think I can manage to learn them if I have to wagecuck at the same time, not like I am disciplined enough now. If I have a tolerable job though, I think I'd find it a lot easier to give up and just coast for the rest of my life without trying anything new.

>>308524
>I don't think I can manage to learn them if I have to wagecuck at the same time, not like I am disciplined enough now. If I have a tolerable job though, I think I'd find it a lot easier to give up and just coast for the rest of my life without trying anything new.
Had similar thoughts. If I failed to pursue anything I care about while a NEET with nothing but time then what makes me believe I would ever make progress while a wagie?
Your second point is probably right. Of course you might be different, but to me it became a lot easier to justify letting go/giving up.

life is so great for me, but I am terrible at graphic design

>>308522
>barely manage

Honestly, /wiz/ could use a thread on lifehacks that make our wizard-tier jobs easier. We totally should make a literal cybergrimoire.

>>308524
I have no dreams.

>>307068
ok so?
what can be taken away from that quote?
it's like saying
"a car without fuel is useless"
well yeah duh
so?

>>307080
That's a really stupid interpretation of the statement. There's no need to deduce something so clear to similes involving material utlilty.
>A man who has the knowledge but lacks the power clearly to express it is no better off than if he never had any ideas at all.
Means that doing things ends up getting those things done, while just thinking about doing those things doesn't. There's no reason to revere those who simply think. Such reverence is especially unnecessary in the context of reflection, i.e don't get an ego boner because you know how to solve a problem but are too lazy to actually fix that issue. Your contribution to resolving the issue as someone who knows but does not do is worth the same as that from someone who doesn't know and doesn't do, because they both bring about the same results. tl;dr Do it, faggot.

I can't figure out the quote's relevance to this thread, but on the whole it applies to /dep/ well
>I want to die soo sooo bad and I've learned 500 ways to kill myself from suicide handbooks but I absolutely can not and will not kill myself because uuh willpower or predetermism or my mom will turn me in to a vegetable or something. You must pity me and revere me as though I am someone who actually did take his life though because me and him are like totally the same, in fact I am suffering more than they guy who actually did die.

>>307038
What is worse?
People acting like they know everything about you from taking just one look at you, or from reading just one of your posts. If you take their misguided advice, you will not only fight with other people on your way, but you will be going the wrong way entirely.

>>307044
Extreme laziness, gooning, idling in the comfort zone for too long.

>>307080

More like

"A car without any of a myriad of tiny parts that make it run is useless"

Say, you can flub up with not changing oil in your car or literally flub up not having worn out timing belt/some pump/brake fluid leak diagnosed properly and timely. And diagnosing cars is easier since cars come with OBD2 ports to plug a 10 USD car-to-laptop wire instead of 20$ for a _single_ vitamin deficiency test

>>305604
do you have a pic of your dog?

Coming up on a year now. It feels like it happened a month ago and I don't feel any better. Nothing can fill the hole he left

I have a cat. I love them, they are comfy animals. But I fucking hate normgroids, they are sadistic fucks that hate animals, trees and life in general There is a pregnant street cat in my neighbourhood I stop by to pet occasionally. I gave her food today and yesterday and my rude, bossy bitch of a neigboor scolded me for petting a cat that trampled something flowers or whatever, I didn't understood what the cat's fault was but she absolutely hates that cat. I put a bowl with food and water and I believe that bitch will throw it away. I wish I could help the cat out more but I already have a uncastrated male cat with kidney failure whom I must treat everyday and my budget can't handle more, especially with kittens.I can't even leave the house to give them away because of my situation. I can only leave food hoping that cat will eat it.

>>308118
Normalfags only keep animals as props. They don't actually value them as friendships, see all the parrots that people get rid of when they get married/have kids and "don't have time for them"

>>308133
I dunno. Apparently, by your logic, cats are non-normie pets then.