/dep/ - Depression

>Except you have a godlike family and upbringing. But I suppose nobody here had this.
if you had this you'd be social. mental illness is a joke, broken people are made, not born; the same is true for those at the other end of the spectrum.

>getting anything done in life
>from jobs, to housing, to money
Guess I'm lucky then, I don't care about these things, and I don't want to accomplish anything.

there are two classes of people on this board, people that everything about their life is indistinguishable from a normal sex-haver life, and they are pining and missed out on that, which is why they buy faster cars earn more money bigger houses. heaps of these people post here for a time, then go off and normal it up and forget about us. they never belonged.

we are like that friend who is the fallback friend, the one you call and interact with when all your other friends are busy. that's why they are here, we just fill in a spot in their big life, a place to vent, and to feel like a king amongst all the wizards which they're ostensibly a part of the same group, yet every post every thread one of these obnoxious people make, they cannot help themselves but constantly remind how much better than have it that other wizards and apprentices, and that they're heaps normal.

then there are wizards and apprentices. everyone falls into one of those two groups.

True but I can't be social because people don't like me

>>289382
have you tried pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, buying yourself a snappy new suit and a nice haircut, taking a shower, and giving them a nice strong firm handshake?

>>289384
Nice normie impression

I really regret being stuck in my cringe rebellious "I'm such a sad loner" phase for so long. I actually didn't get bullied and was able to talk to people but I was so insecure and in my head and always comparing myself to the popular people that I wrote myself off as a loser and retreated into my shell and never left it all my life. Now I have no idea how I can become social after 15+ years of isolation. Spending so much time alone doing nothing is just too weird and unrelatable. I myself can't even properly explain what I was doing all these years. It's crazy how easy you can spend an entire day on imageboards just shitposting and not diving deep into any topic. And you do it day after day until years pass without noticing it.

>>289387
It just was determined to happen.

>>289387
You know what I did when I was 16? I got on 4chan and glamorized the idea of being a shut in NEET, I actually thought I was rebellious and cool being online all day. This was back in 2007-2010 when shut in doomscroller losers weren't really a thing, and it was actually the pioneering days of being an internet addicted loser.

It's the most pathetic shit of all.

>>289387
i sympathize, or is it empathize? Either way i relate to the situation. And I just don't understand any of it. I don't know if my problem is external or internal. I don't know if it's even a problem. I've managed to be social enough to function, but it seems like everyone just does it because they like it. Why don't I like it the way they do? Have I not found the right people? Do I not act the right way? Am I just addicted to the internet and easy sources of pleasure or do I seek them out because socializing doesn't provide it? It seems like every time I have these thoughts the most people can offer is "you're young, you don't need to have it figured out". But I've been young for 15 years now. When do I start figuring it out? People who have intimate relationships at 15 didn't need time to figure it out.

>>289394
Imageboards probably did way more harm to me than good. They sucker you in by pretending they are enlightened because they just hate everything and shun the mainstream. And then you realize they are all just pathetic idiots. But now you don't trust anything else, cause everyone else are also idiots. And so the isolation continues.

>>289387
I used to have regret but then I realized that my dream of living alone is unachievable. Even if I work all my life I won't be able to afford to buy a house so I have a logical reason to give up,drop out of society and rot while neeting.
The alternative is paying half my paycheck on rent and another 70% on bills, it would leave me with less money per month than just being on neetbucks.

not being able to network with and demonstrate value also starts to hurt you a great deal more as you get older and health problems arise. even if you do everything and look after yourself very well, life isn't fair, you could come down with a serious affliction, or end up in an accident and then lose everything that is left. some have more to lose than others, something ive found to be positively related to how much social networks and 'value' they have in the first place.

>>289394
yeah I remember feeling some strange sense of pride from being "le blackpilled doomer" (before that term existed). The reason I found this place was because I was so depressing people got tired of me calling anyone with any kind of social experiences a normie and told me to fuck off here.

>>289388
I mean yeah I was too stubborn. People telling me to stop bitching about normies and to try to be social just made me more determined to isolate myself. It made me rethink if offering people advice is even any effective. I've tried to talk sense into all these "blackpilled" guys on imageboards because I see my young self in them but they won't listen and it's a tragedy because they are probably still in their early 20s and already labeled themselves as hopeless losers and waste time jerking off to how miserable and doomed they are instead of trying to improve things. Even if you truly are hopeless it's at least good to know you tried. You can still spend the rest of your life in isolation if being social doesn't work out. I didn't understand that your youth is for trying things out and failing. I played it "safe" by staying in my room and not doing anything. And trying to do anything now is just so much harder and after 30 you REALLY feel getting older every day.

>>289395
my problem is the lack of "social thirst". i was perfectly fine being alone and playing video games and browsing imageboards. i was also fine going to college without talking anyone. It's a funny thing but I actually enjoyed ruminating and exploring my own mind but now I am bored of myself and realize that self-reflection has diminishing returns. Past a certain point you walk in circles and need to take real action.

also I think I got unlucky that my classmates were all uncultured plebs so I assumed every normie would be the same which is ridiculous when you realize that all these games, movies, artworks I enjoy were made in a social collaboration and are enjoyed by other normies.

>>289396
hey 5 years is not that bad. idk what to do about that empty feeling. thats the problem. I am trying to get into hobbies so i have something to talk about but doing it by myself feels lonely.

>Can you even get off imageboards?

for me the problem is the addiction to instant gratification and nonstop bite sized """information""". If you really think about it imageboards offer not much of value. Sometimes you get someone knowledgable sharing insights but it's not frequent enough to justify spending hours reading garbage. Just take a look at the catalog and really read the posts. You should feel a disgust and boredom that should make imageboards unappealing.

I think imageboard use actually reshapes your brain. It becomes routine to wake up and constantly check imageboards throughout the day and you don't realize how messed up that is and how much time you lose.

>I think imageboard use actually reshapes your brain
i thought it was common knowledge that they discovered this a very long time ago. either way my actual real problems stop me from getting bothered over fluff that doesn't matter.

>>289400
really though this post is ironic in that, he talks about talking to other people in their 20's but i can say the same thing about him in his post, not listening, this guy seems to have it made and doesn't even realise it. went to college even. its wild how people can give advice and not see how it applies to them and they arent following it.

>>289394
I used to think neckbeards were cool as a kid because they were portrayed in the media I watched as savvy and knowledgeable people until, as a kid, I saw some fat piece of shit slumped back sleeping in a seat at the theater for a kids movie and saw written on his face that he was boorish and dull. I used to think acne and braces were cool for some reason as a kid until I got it and it ruined not only my face but my back as well.

>>289397
I can't even afford to fucking rent a tiny shoebox apartment on my own despite working full-time. After heavily researching I found the only thing I can afford on my wage is a singular bedroom in a shared house with complete strangers. I wouldn't even get my own bathroom. When the realisation dawned upon me that I, a 30 year old working man, would never get a space to call his own, I just gave up. It's a horrifying glimpse into a future where people will be corralled like cattle into workhouses just like those from 19th century Britain.

>>289423
Yeah I was only saving 100-200$ a month being a full time worker while living with 10 other families in a shared house. There was no way I would ever even get enough for a downpayment on a contract. Also constant noise, yelling and screaming and dropping/throwing/stomping or loud music blasting normies at 'home' and evil sociopaths trying to get you fired at work was just living hell.
At least normies can't tell us we gave up before even trying.

>>289423
>It's a horrifying glimpse into a future where people will be corralled like cattle into workhouses just like those from 19th century Britain.

this is the future they have planned

>>289423
Yeah i feel pretty much the same way. I keep thinking a decent mobile home is the only potentially realistic option at this point.

>>289456
>>289456
the video isn't an exaggeration. yes, that is the future, we're well on track i agree.

I think people here should have stated that becoming a wizard is not something passive but something only few are capable of achieving. You need to be very intelligent to enjoy your own company. I hate myself and being alone with myself because im dumb and boring. Other people have interesting views and experiences.

>>289485
You need high IQ to enjoy neeting. Typical wagecucks can't stay inside without getting agitated or angry for more than a few days.

>>289499
>staring at my 'puter in my stained boxers is for high IQ neets ONLY!!1

The mental gymnastics and self-deception among wizzies is at truly epidemic levels.

>>289647
>staring at my 'puter in my stained boxers is for high IQ neets ONLY!!1

>The mental gymnastics and self-deception among wizzies is at truly epidemic levels.

the guy said you need to be high iq to enjoy it. where did you get that idiotic take from, or are you all the way down on bipolar scale of depression feeling angsty and irritable and have to be disagreeable. damn i can't blame you that must suck. hang in there wizbro.

those people you mention in your little example where you went off on a tangent to attack before bothering to comprehend because the point of your post wasn't the discussion and it wouldn't have mattered who said what, so long as you had something to vent on. well those people, they're not enjoying their neeting. they're attempting to distract and don't last very long, require drug and alcohol etc.

read first then post, check internal state. mindfulness meditation, you are not your thoughts, crazy i know. lets foster some self-awareness.

>>289650
you're delusional and actually low iq.

>>289652
youre making a satire of yourself

>>289652
If you're too dumb to read a few paragraphs stick to lurking. Stop posting.

>>290102
Make me.

>>289249
What matters is to follow your strategy and authority. https://www.thesimply.ca/blog/human-design-basics

Thanks to this I finally stopped my exhausting, humilliating job search, and stopped feeling the horrid dread that comes with it. I do NEET and happily! But not everyone could follow my path. Strategy stuff.

>>289249
Up to himself whoever believes this bait.
>>289394
glow off normals, you still cucked after the idea of calling this situation all the ways "a loser".

>>289400
>People telling me to stop bitching about normies and to try to be social just made me more determined to isolate myself
See, failed normals? Learn from this guy.
>really getting older after 30
It's all in the manuals, men: https://wizchan.org/dep/res/291067.html#291423
>and realizing how much time you lose
So, you have things where time is worth? Time long enough to need to stay off the PC? Ooooh… shiny.
>>289485
Your MBTI type, man. Contact those who share it, those are the ones who see the world through lenses like yours.
>>289647
Yeah, it's not our fault you get roasted by not fitting what he said. I was like this as a kid, all the time.
>>289650
Is this another triggered failed normie? What a mess…
>>289659
We can make of ourselves whatever we want, put whichever names to it as you wish to build your copium.

Actually it's all predetermined by family and environment in which you grow up, so your life pretty much predetermined from the very beginning. Don't bother with it. You'll die anyway, to me it seems it's good enough to at least not die a sociopath. Everything else doesn't matter.

yeah, having connections is everything in life. You can be jobless one day and make a call and the next day you will be working a nice job. In every sphere even academic those who know that someone who will help them get ahead in life.

>>291745
So they bait you into thinking you could've done like they do. But no, normies have great radars against us. You will only waste your time to get nothing.

social network=success

>>291519
You're not contributing to any discussion. You're making empty assumptions and passive-aggressive insults. If you have nothing to add but negativity and contempt them better leave.

>>291745
There's a bunch of jobs that seem to have no entry points even if you have the degree(s) but ask for years of experience. I've seen people with no degrees slip into those non-entry points because they knew someone there.

>>289249
This is hard pill to swallow, the Neanderthals went extinct because of this.

>>289258
>if you had this you'd be social. mental illness is a joke, broken people are made, not born
Very wrong, it's actually the opposite: there is foremost a genetic component to personality disorders, and only then the shit that happens in life.

>>289499
>You need high IQ to enjoy neeting. Typical wagecucks can't stay inside without getting agitated or angry for more than a few days.
kek
true

>>289249
Of course not. Being unsociable helps you to filter away environments governed by toxic normalfaggotry. Find your place.

yes, having a social network or at least a good family is the greatest advantage you can have to get ahead in life

>>296750
I would literally be dead (probably at age 20-21) without parents, relatives etc. who always lifted me up with endless money injections.

In a state of nature there is no way in hell my autistic self would have survived to 36 years of age.

>>296755
What is your field/major?
You seem lucky with job opportunities despite of everything you said

>>295801
>there is foremost a genetic component to personality disorders
source? There would need to be a twin study or something difficult and unlikely like that. Almost all studies are incapable of teasing apart genetics from the influence of being raised by the family that has those genes, and many people mischaracterize data by not acknowledging this