/dep/ - Depression

what substances and "medication" do you partake in?

>>299369
None and none. I even quit caffeine to help improve my sleep. It does make it so I don't get that afternoon crash anymore but it hasn't helped raise my energy levels long term.

I have the same problem, immense fatigue. Since starting Semen Retention and quitting porn it's 10x worse. I hope it's my body healing (paws) but i don't know, it's awful. Going to work takes everything i've got and i go to sleep really early and waking up exhausted. Working out does nothing. I just want to have energy. Vitamine D + k2 gives me hot flashes and makes me feel ill. Also quit caffeine, and nothing.

>>299371
I'm just coming off a 14 day no pmo streak myself. It didn't really do much of anything for me besides resensitizing myself to some more vanilla content again. Though I also immediately was in a total flatline, didn't even think about anything erotic. I haven't tried too many supplements, I remember trying Omega3s at some point to no effect. I'm sick and tired of grifters promising you solutions. At this point I'm almost resigned that it will be like this for however long I decide to stick around on this rock.

>>299373
I'm still in that flatline, the way i used degenerate porn it could take months before my libido returns. Yeah supplements are a scam. The problem with supplements is you deplete yourself if you take for example vitamine d, it depletes your magnesium. Oh you take zinc? You better supplement with copper! I did all this shit for nothing and spend like 1000$ over the course of 2 years. Omega3 can get rancid and do more bad than good. Hell a latest study says that it contributes to heart problems. Better eat real food or some magic diet (carnivore,glutenfree, i dunno). Could be low t, but i don't wanna test it. Being on trt feels like such a chore.

>>299374
Yeah same here, definitely need more time off porn to even halfway recover some normal libido. Then again though, what's the point. Some years ago I did actually have my T checked for similar reasons - lethargy, no libido etc but they were only on the lower end of the normal spectrum. Again, like you I don't care for taking some T supplement for the rest of my life, same reason why I am just gonna let the reaper take my hair instead of doing this elaborate song and dance with fin and min and whatever.

>>299368
Did you ever go to the doctor to try & see if you have a condition?? I have sleep apnea + had vitamin D + B12 deficiency & I didn't even know about any of that shit for yrs (all wasted because too tired to do anything). This is important to know whether you have those or anything else or not

>>299377
My last full blood panel was a little less than a year ago and everything was fine. I don't think my exhaustion has gotten much worse since then either. Never been tested for sleep apnea but I've heard it can be a common explanation. I think I would have to try an get some specialist to check that and getting appointments with those when you're not actively dying is pretty difficult where I live.

My blood work came back clean. Next thing to do is get tested for sleep apnea. I'm never going to finish what I start.

>>299491
I've known about sleep apnea for a long time now and have never get tested either. It was already a huge effort to get this far with all the tests and what not. Trying to convince my doctor to sign off on something like that would probably be another ordeal.

>>299376
It's not "some time off". PIED has no medical cure and can only slowly be healed after 12-36+ months without porn. Hence most addicts have no way of curing it once they've strangled their snake to death.

day 10 million of trying to achieve a healthy and regular sleeping pattern (still no success but any day now)

copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy… planet wizbux… the /wiz/ megasphere… when you're wiz deprived… fades out of perspective…

I think the vaxx did this to me

>>299374
The thing is, test would help with the majority of vitamin deficicies.

I have felt this fatigue ever since I stopped going to activities. I used to play sports, train in martial arts, play an instrument after school. But one day I decided I wanted to be by myself. I became recluse. Ever since I chose to do that I have not been able to do anything else after I get home. I'm a perpetual student, late to start uni and I can't do anything after I get home from classes.

I was diagnosed with depression and prescribed venlafaxine. I also have had a deficit of folic acid. Other than that I take magnesium and vitamic c supplement tablets. And a bunch of caffeine in energy drink form. I have no drive, no passion. I've been feeling better lately, but still can't do anything.

I had dreams, but at this point I'd rather just get my degree doing the least amount of work possible and be a drone for the rest of my life.

>>300315
>I have no drive, no passion. I've been feeling better lately, but still can't do anything.
Yeah that's kind of the goal of pills such as venlafaxine. It's working! You've lobotomized yourself and overloaded yourself with numbness hormones, but hey the doctor knows best, right?

>>300316
>>300316
AFAIK, recent studies suggest lack of sleep may trigger a depression severe enough to frick up one's sleep (hence causing a vicious cycle)

I consume vitamin D supplements


I switched from coffee to energy drinks… my gut was not happy with that though


I have iron food supplements

I also consume multivitamins from time to time

I'm an alcoholic, but I've reached a point where it doesn't help. It's either far too unhealthy (blah blah i dont care about health but i do care about not being in pain) and too expensive. Just today I've drank 16 beers. They are labeled as 1.3 standard drinks so from google that means I had 20.8 beers. I feel chilled out, but not drunk. I did take the whole day of 12 hours to drink them all, but I can't do this every day of the week. I wake up with bad pain in my sides, which goes away after a few hours, I sometimes stop drinking for a few days if the pain gets worse, but then the mental pain gets bad and I need to drink so I drink. Fuck this

>>301939
don't drink

>>299368
Creatine helped me with my fatigue. Didn't eliminate it completely but it does help.

Will it work for you? No idea. but it's cheap and worth trying.

all these normals spitting normals advice.
it sickens me, go back to reddit !

hurr durr .. it's vitamin d .. hurr durr .. it's lack of sleep .. hurr durr .. it's vitamin deficiency .. just shut your mouth with this over used advices.
just shut it filthy redditors

>>299368
Here is my theory little wiz (it may be wrong, it may be right) :
If you are nearing 30, 5 alpha reductase and thus DHT levels have increased locally in the brain (as it does in balding scalp), which leads to decreased estrogen production in the brain tissue and consequently an increase in monoamine oxidase A, which culminates into a dip in dopamine receptors and monoamine production (dopamine & serotonin).
Until now, all my attempts to reverse this have been to no avail.

>>301998

>If you are nearing 30, 5 alpha reductase and thus DHT levels have increased locally in the brain (as it does in balding scalp), which leads to decreased estrogen production in the brain tissue and consequently an increase in monoamine oxidase A, which culminates into a dip in dopamine receptors and monoamine production (dopamine & serotonin).

Apparently, your theory implies people with rapid balding, (as in "wolf ears" pattern of receded hairline in mid-teens applicable to me, by the way) are likely to be super-depressed; so it's not the loss of hair itself that makes a baldie sad, rather, it's an indicator of undergoing processes of getting baldie' receptors… say, affected. By the way. My hairline was receded to the point of having "wolf ears" pattern as a 14-year-old AND I was in /dep/ zone to the point of not being able to study/to abandon my study properly

>which culminates into a dip in dopamine receptors and monoamine production (dopamine & serotonin).

Two my cents: Or, it may be a "dip" in how serotonin molecule makes/loses connection with its receptor, while the number of receptors stays the same. Think of a poor TV signal and a "cable" that's plugged into a wonky connector. The connector "kinda" works but not as good as it should. My apartment used to have a "TV cable" socket, a proper SHIVAKI telly yet the cable was a cheap piece of crap so my cartoons were in grayscale until my brother bought a better wire.

edit: re-writing

>>301998
>it sickens me, go back to reddit !
Apologies.
Oh silly me for I have forgotten depression can be cause by several various things

SCH, brain damage from physical damage, exposire to neurotoxins, exposire to heavy metals, various stuff have "depression" listed as one of the symptoms.



Seriously. My life was a "could have been easily avoided hadn't my mother be both a fanatic (impose Orthodoxal fasting on my developing brain) and a slop consumer (buy me cutlets made out of hooves/lard/not-too-good-meat mix) "because I have no time to cook!"

>>301998
>it sickens me, go back to reddit !
Apologies.
Oh silly me for I have forgotten depression can be cause by several various things

SCH, brain damage from physical damage, exposire to neurotoxins, exposire to heavy metals, various stuff have "depression" listed as one of the symptoms.


still, my point stands: in my case, my /dep/ zone appears to be the result of my mother not feeding me the right food.

pains in my arms and legs, brainfog and trouble thinking clealy, nightmares. doctors are useless unless you want to get fucked up on pills. think about suicide everyday

I read somewhere that it's just best to go with it yet not get too lazy.
There's a saying that has both a good and a bad meaning: a rolling stone gathers no moss.
Good because you're open minded and dont want to be one with nature (hence why you're rolling).
Bad because, in some cultures, moss is a sign of substanance and belonging with said nature (which you cant gather because tbe rolling wont let you settle down).
But it's all subjective in the end.
(As in I can feel bipolar irritants preparing their "contradictions" like they always do -_-)..

i was having a monster and a few cans of other soft drinks daily. i noticed when i get caffeine from these drinks they wake me up for about 10 minutes if only and then i crash. this didnt used to happen years ago, but i was also never quite this depressed. im gonna try quitting caffeine to see if things change but i doubt it.

ultimately its this: my life sucks and i feel shit, so im tired and cant do shit. i know what the source of my misery is but i cant solve it, ive been feeling this way on and off for 14 years, so basically over half my life, in that way its more me than me. who is me if not the constant self-destructive thoughts and general malaise thats defined my little free trial existence? maybe i should meditate and keep a gratitude journal X)

the only answer i can seem to come up with is i need to force myself to do something which might actually be good for me in a more real sense than just vague "this would be good" or "i should do this" but i dont know what. everything seems so pointless, even when i know doing anything is objectively less pointless than sitting around being miserable. it doesnt matter. the grief i feel about my life and situation is too hard for me to operate above. anyway my eyes are getting heavy again so im done. enjoy this waste of text.

>>302145

>i was having a monster and a few cans of other soft drinks daily. i noticed when i get caffeine from these drinks they wake me up for about 10 minutes if only and then i crash. this didnt used to happen years ago, but i was also never quite this depressed


Relateable! Used to be the same for me, say, 3 years ago.

By the way… Quitting coffee at once, "cold turkey", is a bit risky, you may get a headache and such.


Taking 3-4 days of vacation to crash on a sofa, maybe watching funny cartoons from yer childhood without thinking, why they arent funny now…


….you your energy supply will improve


also
buy more real meat (liver also counts) to resupply your body's "unreplaceable" aminoacids reserves

also

soy sauce and unflavored instant noodles, oh the irony, go well together.


Save the flavor powder packs for frying eggs/frying meat/frying veggies and stuff - cut a packet's corner and try dispersing a tiny stream of spices on da eggs


regards, >>302035