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 No.285412[View All]

Death of the Uncool - End of the Wizards V

Watching Geekdom get absorbed into the monoculture over the last decade (and then some) has been a pretty demoralising experience.

Part of the process of commodification, streamlining and assimilation of geek culture into the all-consuming monoculture, is distortion and erasure of the original.

"These would be the successive phases of the image:

1 It is the reflection of a basic reality.

2 It masks and perverts a basic reality.

3 It masks the absence of a basic reality.

4 It bears no relation to any reality whatever: it is its own pure simulacrum.

In the first case, the image is a good appearance: the representation is of the order of sacrament. In the second, it is an evil appearance: of the order of malefice. In the third, it plays at being an appearance: it is of the order of sorcery. In the fourth, it is no longer in the order of appearance at all, but of simulation."

I'm probably using Baudrillard wrong, but I think we're either between phase 2 and 3 or on phase 3. We're at the point where we have "gamers" who don't like videogames as the faces of videogames.
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 No.289524

>>289484
>It's just all absolutely fucking surreal.
I genuinely don't know what to think here. You know I remember late 90s/early 00s Japan documentaries where minor celebrities and presenters would go to Japan to document the culture and every now and again they'd wander into some "odd" shop or stall selling japanese hentai or porn, and they'd have this incredibly confused expression on why there was cartoon porn with "pokemon" (pokemon being used in place of anime) characters.

 No.289541

>>286653
It's pederasty, it's literally the return of pederasty. They've brought the collective self-esteem of young zoomer male nerds to such a low level and made degenerate porn freely available anywhere anytime, that "would-be" zoomers nerds have taken to dressing like a succubus and getting fucked as a form of positive attention.

 No.289542

>>289484
There are lots of autists in slavic countries. One of my online friends lives in Ukraine and is a grown ass 30 year old man who posts anime memes and has anime pillows. He barely ever leaves his home.

 No.289746

>>289542
Are they sending autists to the warfront?

 No.289882

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>>285420
I think I might be vindicated, now that there's a gamergate 2 on the horizon and various articles about the alphabet agencies are looking to crack down on "extremist" gamers.

—–

And somewhat of a tangent whatever happened to working class movies?

 No.289883

>>289882
You guys are aware that ER was a hoax, a psyop to push gun control, right? It was literally a (((Hollywood))) production and a poor one at that. The acting from all involved – ER himself in his car with his pathetic soliloquies, to the falsely moralistic father expressing a fake disbelief, to the weeping retarded bespectacled man grossly over-acting his part…it was all just a theatre play for the uncritical public. The Jews who control the media seem especially focused on demonising young men who do not submit to the feminised rules of psycho-commie world and they do this through loudly making all kinds of logical appeals that sway the minds of unthinking goyim. Fabricating a large-scale argumentum ad misericordiam (appeal to pity) usually works, because the rushing weight of the emotional reaction to the embellished and fake "mass shooting" blocks out whatever counter-balancing weight even just a little critical thinking could have supplied. Masculine men, authentically masculine men who can think independently, do represent a threat to their power, and so it naturally redounds upon them to think out strategies for doing away with them.

 No.289886

>>289883
You do realize Alex Jones got sued for everything he owns for posts like this and became homeless

 No.289890

>>289886
seems like even more evidence of a global jewish conspiracy

 No.289892

>>289883
I don't know what ER is but capitalist jew vampires aren't communist.

>Masculine men, authentically masculine men who can think independently,

Man, they did a number on the zoomer nerds. You don't even remember who you are, but then again how can you? You never became nerds.

 No.289934

>>289882
Two birds with one stone, ensuring another occupy wall street never happens and they have a boogyman that they can use indefinitely.

 No.290325

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Any actual millennial wizards around? Do you, like me, feel like this is the worst time to be a wizard?

Something about being a wizard now feels particularly dire, though I can't put my finger on it.

 No.290330

>>290325
Zoomers chew and spit out internet culture and sadly I believe this happened to wizchan. We had a period where zoomers thought this was like a cool new trendy identity to be and they found out here people are just fat,bald,ugly losers and left us alone.

The new trendy now is "schizo" for zoomers. Schizocore music (some harsh electronic with anime pics). Schizo movies aka what was just horror/thrillers. Schizo games..
>Join this schizo discord we have egirls + insels

 No.290331

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>>290330
>The new trendy now is "schizo" for zoomers. Schizocore music (some harsh electronic with anime pics). Schizo movies aka what was just horror/thrillers. Schizo games..
>Join this schizo discord we have egirls + insels
This world never ceases to befuddle me

 No.290443

>>290331
>>290330

Those retards don't understand schizoids are 1% of the population and generally hate interacting with anyone on Discord.

But what can you do, zoomers will appropriate all sorts of cool "tags" just like millennials did, and countless generations before them.

 No.290475

>>290443
>just like millennials did, and countless generations before them.
What? Neither early millennials nor generations before us did, simoly because social media wasn't a thing.

 No.290526

>>290443
>Those retards don't understand schizoids are 1% of the population and generally hate interacting with anyone on Discord.

100% true.

Confused about the second sentence though, like anon >>290475
There were some kinds of IRL meme, sure, but I mean, that's quite different, and it allowed for niche things to be niche things for real

 No.290729

There are plenty of niche communities that haven't been infiltrated. Accept that you're just as lame as any typical neurotypical, you're posting on wizchan.

 No.290739

>>290331
dat chicken has seen enough

 No.290768

>>290325
Yeah, I am. Born 1992. It's sad because we were born just at the right time to watch this pivotal change for the worst in internet culture and society as a whole. Born too late to have it easy like the Boomers and born too early to be a braindead zoomer that just enjoys consuming product.

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>>290768
>It's sad because we were born just at the right time to watch this pivotal change for the worst in internet culture and society as a whole.

I mean, we still got the good stuff while it lasted. We just didn't anticipate it crumbling before our very eyes.

>>285420
>but there was this bizarre attributing of frat boy/cool kid crimes (and sociology) to male geeks for a while in the early 10s and how male geeks/nerds/outcasts need to do better which eventually culminated in the "gamers are dead" fiasco and gamergate shit.

In recent news, there is now a Gamergate 2, a group of jocks have murdered a kid and cops shot a weaboo samurai neckbeard to death.

I read somewhere that gamergate is/was accidentally part of a larger push to control narratives through social media/the internet and that it was a testbed of sorts.

 No.290833

>>290805
I'm paraphrasing but
>imagine being a loser and then being told that you're a threat to society because of that

If you told me 20 years ago geek would become completely mainstream and that jocks and stacies would become the face of geek culture I would have called you a liar.

 No.290835

>>290833
so we won

 No.290858

>>290835
Not sure how you call that a win.

 No.291036

>>290835
>sarcastic reply

Speaking of games, Skull and Bones, Kill the Justice League and Battlefront Collection. I've never seen a string of big name flops like that. Modern gaming is in such dire state because normalfags somehow became whales.

 No.291037

like back when you were a kid if you knew you nerdy lil hobies were gonna become billion dollar media empires that everyone loves, you would think you won

 No.291040

>>290835
succubi still mock nerds and geeks, even those who made it big in tech. Nobody thinks Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg is "sexy" even as their billions of dollars keep mounting up.

 No.291045

>>291036
New generations of programmers and creators are also mostly aspies with severely limited imaginations who spent their childhoods in front of tablets instead of exploring the world.

There will never, ever be a gaming company like Blizzard North where the composer (Matt Uelmen) goes to Haiti to get sound samples from military marches for Diablo 2 background bits.

Or epic Starcraft characters like Alarak voiced by seasoned pros like John de Lancie (who was an original voice actor in Star Trek).
Gameplay that challenged players, had multiple layers of complexity and stopped handholding after the initial beginning.

Why? Because the people who make modern games are garbage. They are post-geeks who have zero insight or life experience.
These are the people who did nothing except stare at a screen for 20 years and now they're creating video games because all they can do as a profession is stare at a screen.

But they don't know what makes a good soundtrack immersive. They don't know how to captivate audiences with gameplay mechanisms that feel immersive. They don't know how to create color layouts, dungeons or maps that don't feel dull and repetitive.

Games are now purely geared to extract microtransaction money from other retards who have done nothing except pay for microtransactions to 'speed up their next process by 2 hours' from ages 5-20 and have no life experience, and thus expect nothing better.

It's simply better to quit gaming or only play pre-2020 games. There are a handful of good games still being released today, but for every such game, you have 99% utter burning garbage.

 No.291132

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>>291045
>Games are now purely geared to extract microtransaction money from other retards who have done nothing except pay for microtransactions to 'speed up their next process by 2 hours' from ages 5-20 and have no life experience, and thus expect nothing better.

I've seen normalfag zoomers stick up for microtransactions and companies shutting down servers for games that could easily run on private servers. I honestly think it would blow zoomers minds that people used to host their own MP servers for games.

I mean, like a basic ass MP shooter made now lives and dies based on a central server owned by the company. Imagine if you couldn't play Quake 3 online anymore because id software shutdown their servers and there was no way to run your own.

 No.291134

>>291132
Imageboard user: writes thread about anything

retards with no personality: yeah but ZOOMERS

 No.291136

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>>291134
Did you refute anything except use a meme format that's been in use for 15 years because zoomers can't create anything new? You aren't even wizards.

I bet you're dying to use pepe and wojak memes.

 No.291138

NO! MY HECKING TELETUBBY FANDOM GETTING ABSORBED BY THE NORMIE BLOB ISN'T NATURAL! THIS VINTAGE 1992 GI JOE FIGURE AND THE COLLECTOR FANDOM WAS THE EPITOME OF COOL, AND NOW THESE NORMIES ARE RUINING EVERYTHING!!!

commodification - dead giveaway for when you are talking with a marxist

 No.291146

>>291138
>continues his retarded zoomer tantrum
Why are you even on an imageboard for wizards?

 No.291147


This is why I enjoy my hobbies by myself. What I like is still rather niche but has some annoying normiefags into it and doing this like constantly harassing and crying about a guy who contributes to it. I ignore them and cut myself off from them. I won't let some normie ruin the few things I enjoy.

 No.291152

>>291146
geek "culture" became a brand. Nobody today really plays d&d 2e, they play meme dnd for normies. Nobody today really plays wargames, they play miniatures tabletop cancer. Few people watch the original shows like trek, they watch animeshit for succubi and people with aspbergers and adhd. Capeshit is of course cancer incarnate. And of course vidya 2024 is triple A handholding cutscene crap and cod simulators whereas the old genres don't even resemble the current ones

It's as if they switched the product just a little bit every year to make it more marketable and now the very nature of it changed into slop. I guess I'm rambling, but who cares. Your identity being expressed in a character you saw on a screen or a video game you play is stupid and for cattle

 No.291191

>>286205
Check out the Youtube channels "Rites of Pestilence" "No Gleaming Light" and "Mão da Glória" for good modern raw black metal

 No.291194

>>285412
Just learn all you can about a specific genre and find all the works whether it be writers, mangaka, music you enjoy. If you search you'll delve deeper and deeper and necessarily discover more obscure works. Weirder works will never become popular because of their very nature.

 No.291227

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>>285966
Lain is a literal meme now lol

 No.291229

>>291227
That .jpg is the concentrated brainrot of 12,000 chemically castrated nail-painters. I don't even like using a board that has the phrase "Former otaku idols smoking weed" anywhere on it. I hope you posted it to make fun of the kind of people who would post it in earnest.

 No.291230

>>291229
Lmao it's just a dumb filename for a dumb pic. You sound jaded. You're on here more than I am let's be real.

 No.291231

>>291230
That's the type of response I feared most…

I must warn the other.

 No.291232

>>291231
Lighten up, man. Nothing here has been srs bsns since
I honestly don't remember.

 No.291233

>>291232
"lightening up" isn't a useful response to outsider transvestites getting their kicks from turning nice Japanese anime characters in to filthy niggers for meme-clout on Instagram.

 No.291247

>>291152
>some interesting observations
>some dogshit points

I mean you essentially agree with the main point.

>Your identity being expressed in a character you saw on a screen or a video game you play is stupid and for cattle

See:
>In the past being a geek meant at best you weren't worth interacting with or at worst painted a target on your back, but nothing major on a societal level, just that you were uncool. Now (or soon enough), you are no longer uncool or a geek but a crab or a potential shooter, an entitled manchild, or some other negative label. Geek is no longer uncool, uncool is no longer geek. The outcast is no longer a geek, the outcast is no longer uncool. The outcast is [NULL], ready to be redefined to whatever is required, irrespective of what the outcast themselves think. In fact, you can go one step further and say uncool is [NULL] itself. Many things now are either "good" or "bad" (usually in the service of shilling some kind of product).

>For the last 10+ years or so, probably since a certain idiot fucking gentleman, there's been an effort to paint the would-be geek as a born misanthropic miscreant, whose isolated miserable life is a failing of themselves as opposed to their material circumstances and/or external forces acting on them. Sole blame lies on them, "They didn't try hard enough" and when they snap on occasion it's just proves that were a bad egg to begin with. IIRC, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there was this bizarre attributing of frat boy/cool kid crimes (and sociology) to male geeks for a while in the early 10s and how male geeks/nerds/outcasts need to do better which eventually culminated in the "gamers are dead" fiasco and gamergate shit.


The crab/outcast/loser is the perma-boogeyman. It's one thing to lose geek culture, it's another to be suddenly blamed for all of society's ills even though you've kept out of everyone's way.

>>291227
Ugh.

 No.291275

>>291036
>>291045
>>291132
I don't understand how dogshit keeps getting released and still people keep preordering after so many turds.

 No.291375

>>291233
Hmmmmmmmmm. It seems like I'm the one who is jaded. Having seen so many discussions relating to the thread topic and seeing it happen in real time, it has long ceased to be something I really put much thought or negative energy to.
You can even sometimes find ancient blogs and posts from (now) much older and (most likely) truer nerds through wiby.me making succintions of all the posts itt.
I won't waste your time any longer. All the best.

 No.292028

>>291275
Helldivers 2, a sleeper hit, nearly fucked up it's PC release by trying to force people to sign up to PSN to play it. It's only because of PC-only gamers, in foreign lands where PSN doesn't exist made, enough noise to stop Sony reverse it's decision. And you KNOW that Sony has plans to make it mandatory for any future titles.

 No.292031

>>292028
>a sleeper hit
More like a streamer hit. Helldivers 2 was a one week wonder. Half of those who were interested in it took a week to get experience all it had to offer, while the other half just watched jerks on Twitch play it. Trash game or not, what Sony tried to pull was bad, but the reality is that platforms such as Epic and Steam are already rolling out measures to tie users to their real identities but nobody is batting an eye because those platforms or held in higher regard than Sony. All this situation has revealed is that most gamers who blow hot air only do so when it is fashionable to do so, while remaining ignorant or hypocritical to the same issues elsewhere.

 No.292035

>>292031
remember palworld? neither do they.

also
>tie users to their real identities
oh fuck, do you have any source for that? like many older guys here i grew up with a "dont put up your real info online" mentality. i dont play games anymore at all, but i keep an old account that must be worth almost $1,000. thats not much but its a lot for a zero income neet. i always feared steam one day locking me out and demanding proof of this fictional identity

im not that guy btw

 No.292067

>>292031
>All this situation has revealed is that most gamers who blow hot air only do so when it is fashionable to do so, while remaining ignorant or hypocritical to the same issues elsewhere.
The Cyberpunk 2077 situation is absolutely insane, a game so broken on release that the Playstation Store issued refunds. Then they release an anime and the negative opinions starts going in reverse because every normalfag is now an anime fan.

 No.292327

>>285797
There's a great irony in you posting this, in that people on /a/ (and otaku on Japanese imageboards according to some people) railed against this vehemently. They saw it as an appropriation of geek culture, a distillation, a perversion. It didn't help that the creator was a young early 20s Japanese that spent some of his childhood and teens in the States, so they could tar him with that brush labeled "pozzed and westernized". Distinguishing the authentic from the unauthentic is such a big problem for everyone nowadays and even an impassioned cry like the one in webm related is bound to have dirt thrown on it by the very same people it claims to speak for.


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