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 No.285412[View All]

Death of the Uncool - End of the Wizards V

Watching Geekdom get absorbed into the monoculture over the last decade (and then some) has been a pretty demoralising experience.

Part of the process of commodification, streamlining and assimilation of geek culture into the all-consuming monoculture, is distortion and erasure of the original.

"These would be the successive phases of the image:

1 It is the reflection of a basic reality.

2 It masks and perverts a basic reality.

3 It masks the absence of a basic reality.

4 It bears no relation to any reality whatever: it is its own pure simulacrum.

In the first case, the image is a good appearance: the representation is of the order of sacrament. In the second, it is an evil appearance: of the order of malefice. In the third, it plays at being an appearance: it is of the order of sorcery. In the fourth, it is no longer in the order of appearance at all, but of simulation."

I'm probably using Baudrillard wrong, but I think we're either between phase 2 and 3 or on phase 3. We're at the point where we have "gamers" who don't like videogames as the faces of videogames.
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 No.298979

>>298978
it happened with the discover of 'sissytrap' on internet

 No.298980

>>298979
>>298978
thats what I believe, tell me if Im wrong

 No.298981

>>298979
I believe that, outside East Asia, an overwhelmingly significant amount of people cannot differentiate reality and fiction, so exposure to ideas like traps and anime instead creates overwhelming trannism, as juxtaposed and opposed to the east Asian male who simply likes looking at, say, beautiful looking succubi, or has a history of comedy, jokes, in traps and cross dressing owing to historical event and tale. He doesn't want to become the succubus, or have intercourse with men, a formidable divergence appearing here in the western world for the western man.

This power to separate fiction and reality likewise affords the far eastern populous an indulgence of an array of ideas without perturbance of some inexplicable internal turmoil, and so where an image is an image, entertainment entertainment, the westerner instead subscribes to it an age, a bound to moral and ethical code, and altogether makes it tantamount to a breathing human, thus crimes can be committed to -and by- images, for again: he cannot differentiate that which is real, and that which is not.

Similarly, the power to separate fiction and reality leads to not replicating what is seen as simple fiction, understanding that its content is left -exclusive- to its domain, and remains away from reality, in fact never to be brought to it. The exposure to tits in anime, and more sensual depictions of a female, are discouraged in western spheres for fear of its equation to ribald perception, that in engaging it, you by extension engage in rape. Of course, diminishing anything a man might like plays a role too.

Many nerds and geeks are into these type of things, and for as formidable as their brains are, they lack the component to make clear distinctions, are surrounded by ill intentioned groups who enforce trannism, come from a history and grouping of people whose cognition operates at a thorough associative framework ( I am what I eat and do, thinking in general terms etc ), so it's a lost cause. Yuri, BL, traps, crossdressing, homosexuality-these inspire positive feelings, instead of disgust, and are wanted for everywhere.
More importantly: while the eastern populous appears externally collectivist, they are internally rather divisive, introverted, and individual, so their media and social life is strictly compartmentalized in a way that one doesn't spill into the other. The refuse interested in BL ( (homosexuality) for fujoshi aka pig 'rotten' females) and yuri (pigs) et al, are strictly to never leave their domain, and should they do so, they typically are bashed to the point it burns out fairly quickly. These people are notorious for shutting down bullshit.
Contrarily, the western sphere is externally individualistic, to the extent a nation might be 'not a gathering of many, but a gathering of people with identical interests', but internally -on personal ideation- collectivist, and so things like listening to opinions from Youtubers, following social consensus, wanting to talk to people, following justness and righteousness, wanting to share what you know, feeling bad when other people insult what you're interested, mixing everything, care for the lesser; all extroversions, do they exhibit.
Therefore, if trannism is popular and trendy, they'll latch onto it, and force everyone to do the same, but these people who latch onto it will operate in the real world as distant from one another, even if their worldviews are identical; externally individual, internally collectivist.

I once tried speaking to an American fellow about how an anime with busty succubi carefully designed, to appeal to the libidos of men, to give them entertainment that satisfies what any man would want, a heroine to reward the hero, a classic, is 'trannism', and his response went something along the lines of 'they're all trannies.'
I thought- yeah, it really is, unshaking, per his perception, so there's no helping it.

And so I reason that's how the modus operandi runs today. I was genuinely shocked that it warranted action from the president of one of the most powerful nations right now… to say something so self-evident, and how vitriolic the reaction was toward that. Perhaps the world ended in 2012 after all.

Addendum: I think the ability to distinguish reality and fiction might strongly be related to the part of the brain responsible for memory, spatial, quantitative and executive thought (frontal lobe), all areas the Asian cognitively excel at, especially memory, these in the Ashkenazi's… all being comparatively lower.

Yuri Bezmenov once said that the entire western world was already in a completed state of demoralization, and demoralized people apparently exhibit a trait such that reality and self-evident truths don't exist and will never convince them. Education has been biased to promote that type of thinking, which might explain why trannism got so popular in the end.

 No.298984

>>298981
It's not just a gut feeling. There really is a strong link between transsexuality, autism and geekiness.

Many spectrum people also have strong sex drives but as they are physically repulsive to succubi, have zero way of expressing it in real life. So they attempt to change into succubi to experience being wanted sexually by someone.

Pardon my pun, but the trans world really is a *trap* for wizards and male autists. One that can destroy your mental health.


https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/transgender-and-gender-diverse-individuals-are-more-likely-to-be-autistic-and-report-higher-autistic

>Transgender and gender-diverse adults are three to six times more likely as cisgender adults (individuals whose gender identity corresponds to their sex assigned at birth) to be diagnosed as autistic, according to a new study by scientists at the University of Cambridge’s Autism Research Centre.

 No.299483

>>298984
>So they attempt to change into succubi to experience being wanted sexually by someone.
We have some kind of…short-circuiting and… group-reinforcing behaviors with this tranny shit. All energy that could be directed to nerd hobbies or (for non-wizards) to getting a gf is re-directed to this tranny shit, and this tranny shit is reinforced by other nerds who've fallen into the same rabbit hole because they've become each other's idea of a nerd gf. It's insidious and could have only happened in the social media era. 4chan has existed for over 20 years yet this tranny shit only exploded in the early 10s.

 No.299485

>>298984
>>299483
One wizard's advice on here was to put all that energy into being a dollfag instead of trooning out.

 No.299487

>>299483
It's cognitive dissonance - reality not being compatible with ones dreams.

The geek tries and tries and tries to be nice. Get a haircut. Compliment succubi and throw money at them. But it yields nothing. Even the geeky succubi prefer the athletic tall jock with a good looking face and cocky behavior.

So what does the geeky high libido guy do: He turns himself into a succubus. So he can become a "gf" for another geeky dude.
It's all an elaborate desperate cosplay. A failure to accept reality and lashing out at it by forcing a different outcome through hormone therapy and becoming what you can't have.

 No.299608

>>297691
>>297683
Tried to read it and gave up because it is completely unbearable to read. The writer seems to intentionally make it painful

 No.299613

>>298984
>>299487
You are completely wrong. Getting a succubi is much, much easier than becoming trans and finding a man that wants a tranny. Almost nobody wants to date a tranny. Something like 98% of people are straight.

 No.299644

>>299613
An ugly nerd has 1000x more chances of dating someone as a semi-attractive female passing human than as himself.

There are ugly nerds who have literally hit on tens of thoudands of succubi in real life and hundreds of thousands in dating apps, without getting a single date in 5+ years.

 No.299647

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>>299613
0% of 20-30 year old succubi want to date him on the left.
5-10% of men would fuck his post-transition and HRT self.

This isn't rocket science. People will go to insane lenghrs for an iota of acceptance and intimacy.

 No.299648

>>299647
>This isn't rocket science
yeah right agreed
the irony though
guy on the left is overweight
if he lost the fat his life would become 1000x better
yet he makes it rocket science, and in convoluted ways, improoooooves his life by putting on make up and succubi's clothes
LOL

 No.299653

>>299648
He still has a facial structure that makes it hard for anyone but their own mother to really compliment it.

Mine is even worse though. Even my mom said I'm ugly.

 No.299655

>>299644
>>299647
Completely delusional. There are a huge number of old/ugly/fat/mentally ill succubi. And the desperate trans people would date a "ugly nerd" too. Becoming trans yourself doesnt do anything beneficial to one's chances. This conversation is the dumbest shit ive ever heard. Satistically being trans is a very strong predictor of being alone and lonely. Literally must be sub-80 iq to argue that people do it to get a partner

 No.299765

>>299644
>An ugly nerd has 1000x more chances of dating someone as a semi-attractive female passing human than as himself.
a) Sure, to another insane person maybe.
b) The magic power of trooning isn't as effective as you think it is.

Putting troons aside, I wonder how many people including unwitting normalfags, have dropped out of society.

 No.299809

>>286205
>zoomers being the hypersocialized generation they are they just cannot stand any form of metal, except modern "black metal" which bears little to no resemblance to the og.
it's really funny to me how metalheads think their angry 13 year old music is too dark or effed up or whatever for le heckin normies

 No.299816

>>299485
I think he's right on the money. For those in the know: look up a certain interview by manga artist Hisashi Eguchi.

 No.299834

Saw it happening with IHNMAIMS. Some stupid streamer played the game and then zoomies tripped over their feet to draw uwu soft boi gijinkas of AM because
>omg a nineties game??? fr fr so cool, I love the nineties and frutigier aero
>zomg a horror game??? just like five night at Freddie's bro
Then shat up all the places to discuss IHNAIMS until they were bored playing with their new toy and left a fucking Wasteland after themselves.
I dread of what would happen of Marathon, bros. I'm so afraid.
I'm not even mad at newcomers, I would be happy if more people experienced those things, but those stupid fucks have no respect for the established fandom.

 No.299855

>>299834
You got to accept that nothing that you're into is safe or sacred from these people. There no solution to this other than to stay away from internet communities.

 No.299857

>>298984
Trannyism is caused by porn addiction. All other theories are tranny grooming.

Btw the number of obvious trannies on here trying to groom wiz's is disturbing. Gays and trans have no place here.

 No.299858

the reason why the nerd/geek community got flooded by normie imposters is thus

In the beginning it wasn't socially advantageous to be one.
Then the dot com bubble happened, being a nerd got associated with being successful and rich and having a good job.
Then everyone wanted to be a nerd.
Problem. Its hard to convince a company or people you are a nerd when you arent one.

Solution. The full commercialisation of nerd culture. Need to show off how nerdy yoy are for the big job application? buy this fuknopop shit. Line your wall with fuknopop, here have an avengers tshirt.

Problem. Its now mainstream.
Solution. Find new niche communities to plunder for nerd cred.

 No.299866

>>298981
I'm East Asian and also noticed that phenomenon.
I think that's because western people are mainly idealists while East Asians are mainly materialists. I'm using idealists and materialists in marxist sense, that is idealists are people who recognize Ideal is the fundamental reality, while Matter is only its shadow, or false existence (Allegory of the Cave). Meanwhile, materialists are people who recognize Matter is fundamental reality, Ideal is only its image, or at best a dream of what could be possible.
A little story when I browsing a Chinese forum, a poster talked about how he thought about being a cute succubus, enjoying cross dressing or playing a succubus character in vidya, but when talking about trans, he said he fully understood he always firmly a boy in reality, we cannot change biology and how you shouldn't force everyone to recognise your delusion, how he didn't want to worry his parents. Well, the ability to put your own dream lower than material reality, the ability to separate ideas from reality.
Hell, even the peak of wizardry in East Asian philosophy is basically ceasing to have your own ideal, acting as one with nature, the philosophy of wu wei

 No.299867

>>299866
While it's mostly a noisy and attention seeking minority which is idealistic in way you have described it I would agree that in western countries people have a problem with acknowledging reality as it is. They want to have their individualistic interpretation of it which then needs to be recognised and taken seriously by others. This single perspective that colours reality has much value on a societal level it can lead to conflict, legal dispute, political decisions and so on. Only when it's not connectable at all apart from the general broadly accepted discourse of semantic intelligibility then it's discarded as schizophrenia or another stylish brand of mental illness that comes to mind.

 No.299884

>>299868
This poster is right, that's why our society nowadays is a syncretic of both East and West.
>labeling someone’s viewpoint as "mental illness" is used to force conformity is a very Eastern philosophy.
exactly, but we don't use the word "illness", but the word "strange", "different". To be different is nothing good in the mindset of East Asians. But here is a nuance, it's "strange" but not "illness", "illness" implies it can and must be cured, but "strange" doesn't. That's why since the ancient times, homosexuality or other perversion has existed, but no one cares if you don't disturb others or force your ideas on the social norm.

>"The Nail the Sticks Up gets Hammered Down."

it's totally correct, but the "sticks up" part doesn't only mean it's different, it's different and causing nuissance to the normalfags. Being a faggot is not a problem, but preaching faggotry to everyone is another matter. In other words, just be a faggot in your own home. That's why in Asia we can observe how social outcasts always banding into communities, where they can freely express their faggotry. The communities are very isolated and personal, without feeling the need to preach to outsiders. It's not gatekeeping, but the feeling of "even we share it to you, you wouldn't understand anyway and may hate us".
And the normalfags also don't want invade, unless it really threaten their order. Confucius, the peak normalfag, had said: "Respect ghosts and spirits, but keep them at a distance" when expressed his opinion on supernatural matters. It also how normalfags treat the "strange" outcasts, respect but don't want to interact with.

In my opinion, that's how East Asian societies are so stable but have few innovations. Different ideas stay in their own isolated groups, no one wants to interact, it's almost we're all hikkikomori in the world of ideas. Without criticism from outside, ideas become fossiled. It also how explained how we disliked religions such as Christianity or Islam, because of their preachiness nature. Only in the times of chaos that we were forced to leave our caves and violently interacted with each others (but those also the most exciting periods in history, for example Warring States era). But recently, with capitalism and westernization of society, the old order is gradually breaking down. One of the manifestion of that phenomenon, which I closely followed and documented, was in CN gacha gaming industry. The (((corporations))) want to expand the their market share, they don't satisfy with making games that target a specific group of players, but for multiple groups, as many as possible. Genshin was basically the first and trend setter. That leads to tragicomedic situation of yurifags have to eat the shit of fujos, fujos have to eat the shit of waifufags, waifufags have to eat the shit of yurifags, etc. Everyone is unhappy, but everyone understands that without large playerbase, the game cannot be "high quality". That leads to constant drama in CN gacha, to schizo degree, to the appearance of extremists group such as Snoggers (Snowbreak).

It's all tiresome…

 No.299887

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(Non-wiz safe image.)

What is it when reality outpaces satire? This is like the background joke of a nerd character's bedroom forced into reality.

There are so many levels of "why", "what" and "who" and so many layers to (social) exploitation and self-delusion going on here.

 No.299888

>>299868
>The Nail the Sticks Up gets Hammered Down
literally chinese communist schizophrenia thats being forced in the west by their useful idiot allies

 No.299903

>>299834
>but those stupid fucks have no respect for the established fandom
How do you have respect if there are no barriers or gatekeepers?

 No.299908

>>299903
There is an easy barrier for older games: just playing them is impossible for normgroids because "muh dated graphics" and "muh clanky gameplay." It was always like that, but now any fuck can watch a stream or read wiki and pretend he knows something about the game in question.
They are easily spotted due to how out of context their little factoids are, but it doesn't stop them from shitting up fandom spaces.
I wrote a huge rant here about cult classic retro games, but then realized nobody cares.
I think another barrier to entry is to actually like those games. Older games are played differently than modern ones.

 No.299910

>>299887
>Non-wiz safe image
Sex is meaningless but puritanism is unwizardly.

 No.299911

>>285432
As conclusion to this ancient post.
>Why normalfags will never understand true wizards
Because normalfags fundementally are not human beings, they are either banal wild animals or even some kind of lowly demon wearing human skin.

 No.300027

>>299908
>I wrote a huge rant here about cult classic retro games, but then realized nobody cares.

Mind re-posting it?

 No.300038

>>299887
I genuinely wonder if pig-fucking started trending on social media would normalfags start fucking pigs? It's like their ENTIRE system of what is cool and what is mock-worthy got superseded by a social media system that they *perceive* to have superior taste to themselves.

 No.300055

>>299908
>barriers
I mean, even in your own post that they mean nothing these days.

 No.300137

>>299887
It's all over the underground (subways). I feel like all crabs should practice more "active" celibacy, like aside from the bare minimum of clearing their mind by busting to a basic Playboy magazine, everything should be dedicated to the few niches that are cannot be commodified or just meditation.

When even your porn fanart is being stolen by normalfags, it's time to stop being creative, at least in a way that can be monitized.

 No.300734

Is it me or is there now a shorter collective memory for nerds?

 No.300752

>>300734
It's a universal problem, think it all stems from this current day crony hypercapitalism where you need to get extremely excited for new thing, get invested, and then move on to next new thing as quickly as possible so that line go up more and more and more and more, and every psychological trick is being weaponized against every human on the planet to this effect. Everything being pushed to be disposable, temporary, phones that would be fine for 10 years get re-released with minor if any changes every 1-2 years, 3 year old games getting "remastered" so you buy the same thing again, planned obsolescence, etc etc…

 No.300753

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>>300734
Not just for nerds, but the general populace.
There is just an overwhelming amount of information being pushed constantly.
New happenings non-stop. Covid is basically memory holed because there has been so much more worse shit and even more coming down the line.

Also if you mean things like anime or games, they became hyper-commercial.
Anime is seasonal for normies, manga is basically fast food with 1 new idea spawning 100 spin-offs (like the isekai genre and many others).
Games are dime a dozen with the same thing happening there. AAA is slop "safe" snoozefest, indie are the same-but-different types.
I'd reckon there is a 1000 new webnovels generated each day, 100 manga published and dozens of anime released monthly.
There have been 19000 game releases on steam in 2024 according to some google searching.

Realistically, how do you consume content?
I just sedate myself with constant stimuli seeking, so by the time I'm done with one thing I move to the next, or have some background video while I scroll manga like some zombie.

If you watch a youtube video about [event_1] then you move onto another video or two about [event_2] or [event_1_different_talkinghead] you wont even have time to process it really.
Sitting with thoughts and processing things is a thing of the past for a vast majority.
This way, you don't really form any connection to these things. No thoughts, no memory.

I reckon dementia is going to see a major increase in millennials and later generations.
Based on a quick google search:

"Globally, the prevalence and incidence of dementia among young people under 65 years increased by 211 and 216% between 1990 and 2021, from 3.7 million and 0.6 million in 1990 to 7.8 and 1.4 million in 2021, respectively. 2025. febr. 17."

You can already see the trend in wizards posting about anhedonia and the like.

The lack of true novelty is also a driving factor in my opinion.
This can be seen in two ways I think.
1. Things are really just reskins of things from before, nothing new under the sun. 1 isekai manga spawns 100 etc.
2. We have over-consumed, so we have literally seen it all. From mundane entertainment to endless gore videos and porn. Literally seen it all.
Without novelty the creation of memories is also hampered.
Many nerds are also depressed, low dopamine, low emotion, less memories created.

Kinda sad really.
I remember old stuff I watched as a younger kid when I didn't consume thousands of chapters of manga in a couple days during my NEET years of which I couldn't recall a fraction of.

Not sure if this is what you meant by your question.

 No.300754

>>300734
>>300753
I wish to add some other examples that came to mind.

For video games, the live service model is basically a weapon of mass destruction for the youth.
I spent insane hours on league of legends and others because they are easy to jump in, you can turn off your brain, they are infinite.
These also liberate the consumer from the burden of heaving to "learn" new games. You ever bought a game that you never launched because you knew you had to learn new mechanics and such despite being a "veteran"?
This is why these games stick so easily.
Exhausted as an adult? Man launching that new RPG sure seems like an insurmountable obstacle compared to another round of Overwatch or Rivals or your daily dose of Gacha slop.

FOMO and the endless upkeep is also there in other things.
I for example have quit yugioh for almost a year now.
TCGs are notorious for the increased push of monthly or bi-weekly product releases, keep up or be left behind.
You don't even get time to savor the new card pool before even more is released.
People complain about this in MTG as well. META only becomes stale due to online easy and fast optimization due to resource pooling.
This also kills games as people have a "tutorial/guide/optimal first" mentality which disengages them even more, meaning less memories again. The game is less novel if people have pre-played it for you.

Stuff like GUNPLA or Warhammer figures now release so damn fast as well.
At this point every hobby you might have DEMANDS your complete dedication just to keep up.

In a world like this, memories seem like a luxury.
Everything is designed to exploit and abuse the monkeybrain against our best interest…

 No.300755

>>300754
>Exhausted as an adult? Man launching that new RPG sure seems like an insurmountable obstacle compared to another round of Overwatch or Rivals or your daily dose of Gacha slop.
Weird to imagine for me because social anxiety makes any online game a very overstimulating, exhausting thing

 No.300760

>>300755
I always have all chat and voice communication disabled on these.

No social interactions here.

 No.300763

>>300755
>social anxiety makes any online game a very overstimulating, exhausting thing
It's the same for me except with OSRS. I feel home there and others seem familiar, otherwise I'm out of my depth. Tried League of Legends after a 7 year long hiatus and couldn't reconcile with the fact that I now play with 'cool kids' a decade younger who use slang I'm not even familiar with, and if I dared to ask their smugness would be over 9000.

 No.300766

>>300763
>I now play with 'cool kids' a decade younger
Really makes me rethink my childhood interactions with old farts on MMOs and the like.
I was always beating them thinking I was hot shit, but realistically it was just age and free time/energy.
I could play league 12+ hours a day for years, of course I reach the highest ranks or level faster.
Now even if I tried again I'm physically unable to keep up.
I'm also now the old guy being made fun of as you say.

People keep recommending discord for niche hobbies or games etc. for making friends.
Being past 29, months from 30 I'm a creepy outsider no matter which group.
At 11-12 I thought it was cool talking to 30 somethings online, but as a soon-to-be 30s guy idk.
World has changed and youngsters are vicious.
Not to mention I have little interest in talking to them to begin with.

Even if you knew the slang, would you even be willing to use it? I'm not.

 No.300781

>>300754
I was able to uninstall all my mobile gacha games just by realizing how retarded it is to keep logging in daily to watch advertisements. But it took over a year.

Fortunately I only succumbed to one $0.99 microtransaction. Some fools spent thousands for pixels

 No.300782

>>300781
Good for you bro. I got into it to socialize with my "fellow weebs", but that turned out to be a flop and a new addiction.
I spent a lot of money to be honest and even more time. Managed to sell the accounts at least for the price I put into it.
The time I deeply regret. Like the over 10k hours on league… things I'll never get back no matter what.
>logging in daily to watch advertisements
Or to do random chores that are annoying and exhausting…

 No.300815

>>300763
>>300766
it's fun to troll zoomies by using their slang the wrong way
skibidi fr fr sigma hawk tuah womp womp
the funniest thing is when they respond to your gibberish as if it actual means something and they understand what you said
like imitating animal sounds and getting a response

 No.301248

>>297991
>>298031
>gentrification
Maybe this is coincidence but over the last 10+ years, it feels like Friday has been sliding back until the weekend starts on Monday for gentrifiers, hipsters and yuppies. As a NEET weekdays outside used to be quite relaxed, everybody at work or school and you'd have 6 hours to wander around your part of the city undisturbed except for the reprobates who didn't become active until late afternoon.

 No.301336

Might be time for a new thread.

Gentrifiers are some of the most passively evil people on earth.

 No.301337

>>301336
rich people are evil

 No.301345

>>301337
Perhaps, but there's a specific evil to them like another anon said.

 No.301511

I've seen debates/arguments on reddit and twitter on what a nerd is or isn't and they are literally trying to fit the data after the fact or retroactively claim things as other things.

Basically OPs point of relabelling the nerd. Apparently neckbeards is a "new term" to separate nerds and crabs.

It's like people can only remember the last four years.


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