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How do you survive without working while not being able to depend on parents or NEETbux, or going homeless?

I’m 19 years old, in the confidence of my youth, and determined not to be another cog in the machine. Part of this involves not consuming stupid normalnigger shit like insurance premiums, doctor visits, health food faggotry, and broscience fitness pyramid schemes, while the other part involves not being a wageslave. Right now my plan involves saving up some money, retiring at around 30, and then killing myself when the money runs out because I don’t want to be alive as a 60 year old boomer with no family.

Give me some tips on how I can protect my savings from getting jewed by greedy companies, and work as little as possible so I don’t spend my life pushing a boulder up a hill only for it to roll back down again
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if you were going to fake it you would need to know what you are doing but delusional thinking would just lead you to AP's trust me.

it is not as hard as people think but not near as easy as people think


I must have gotten lucky then. I've had episodes of decompensation where the therapist said I need to show signs of being better before leaving the office or I'd be going to the hospital. Hopefully that still helps my case


You can go to jail instead of becoming homeless. Probably only makes sense if you live in europe though.



thats arguably worse
being gangraped by niggers

oh well, life sucks anyways

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If you consider yourself among the few, then I would hope you to pay attention to what you eat.

Residual energy from an argument, a funeral - you feel it when you enter the room.
What is this?
And when you look at painting composition, colors leave traces of energy too.
Music should explain itself.
Energy is everywhere if you pay attention.

With this metaphysical plane in mind, transpose it upon what you eat.
Does it have good energy?

Verily, verily, I say unto you: seek the land of milk and honey.
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Just keep things balanced and try to get a bit of fruit and veg in your diet if you don't got any.
If you are trying to build muscle then add a lot of high protein foods to your diet.


lentil stew


Quick cooking/instant oats.


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thought I'd chime in that all I aspire to eat are veggies, fruits, seeds

Everyday feels closer to a blessing when I shake off the greed


100% cocoa, yum

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I'm a longtime wizard and lurker who basically never posts. I just wanted to write a little about my experiences going off all computers and electronics for 15 months because of my extremely severe addiction to them. I had been reduced to a shell of a human being with a destroyed body (due to my OCD self-harm) and a destroyed mind from nearly-constant computer usage in my free time since I was a young child. I had basically become an automaton meat sack with no will. Overall, I would say my cold turkey method was successful, and I would recommend it to others if they have similar problems. The first few months with no electronics (no TV, phones, computers, anything) I was going through severe withdrawal and was completely avolitional and extremely depressed. The only thing I could all day was sit in my armchair and read, and occasionally go to the library. After many months of this I had garnered the willpower to actually do something, and since my days were completely blank since previously they had been filled non-stop with computer time, I decided to start studying Japanese which is something I had been thinking about for a long time but always incapable of because of my non-existent willpower. So I spent the next 10 months of my life doing basically absolutely nothing but studying Japanese for about 10 hours every day, sometimes a little more, sometimes less. At the end of that period I had reached about a N3 Level in Japanese which is where I'm still at. Now, you may be wondering, why I am back on the computer now after all this time? Well, because I started getting these extreme euphoric mood swings and I started to feel like maybe it would be okay to use a computer again (since initially I had planned to never use one again for the rest of my life), and also the temptation to use a computer again after all this time and see what had happened in the world was too strong. I regret it, but at the same time I feel much better prepared to handle computer usage in the future due to all the self-discipline and will-power I was able to accrue during the 15 months without it. I think I will probably go off computers again in the future, though not completely cold-turkey, using them occasionally if I need them for help studying. Anyway, that's basically all. I still feel like a shell of a human being with a disgusting ruined body, and that my mental and emotional development stopped at the age of 11, but at least I now have a tiny bit of a will and an intermePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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If you are not capable of doing cold turkey because of your circumstances, I recommend limiting your screen time as much as you possibly can.

It did improve my mood considerably, it made less apathetic and suicidal, but now I have the clarity to see that that I suffer from quite severe mood swings and probably a personality disorder, I go from extremely depressed to almost manic within the course of a day. Also I get extremely depressed when I realize how much of my life I've wasted on this nonsense. Anyway, I'm glad you liked reading my story.

This is OP here, and this will probably be my last post on Wizchan and in this thread for good. I just want to give some final advice to any other wizards who are suffering from the same problem, I know there are more of you out there because I've seen threads like this before. I just want to say Computer / Electronic withdrawal is VERY REAL and do not be discouraged if you want to attempt some cold-turkey plan and start going through extreme withdrawal. You just have to power through the withdrawal until you start gaining your willpower back little by little. Also do not let ANYBODY tell you that electronics addiction is not real or not serious. It is extremely serious, and I have suffered from it ever since I was a small child, since I was 7 years old and just wanted to go on the computer and play games all day. It has plagued me my entire life, and nearly destroyed my life. You HAVE TO TAKE IT AS SERIOUSLY as you would a heroin addiction or something. If you are not capable of breaking it with your own will-power, and I was not, then you have to get somebody else to help you, your family members, parents, etc. Get rid of all electronics in your possession, sell them or give them to somebody to keep or you will abuse them if you have a severe addiction like I had. Remember that you DO NOT NEED electronics for anything, no matter what it might seem like in the modern world. I was able to live without them, and I even studied and learned a lot during that time using only books, the library, and pencil and paper alone.

Even now, after going over a year without using a single elecPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Well it's a shame OP won't read this, but I've tried some similar stuff. In fact, I haven't even been on any chans or such for around half a year, and only came back because imageboards satisfy my social needs.

I've been actively combatting internet/tech addiction since 2018 now, slowly learning more about myself and my relationship to tech. I've tried cold turkey, but that never lasted long because of mood swings, loneliness, and the fact that I need the internet for essential tasks like banking. What has worked, though, is banning or editing certain sites (eg. using an addon to block all social media sites, or using an addon to block every part of youtube that isn't my sub feed).

The thing that I noticed is really bad is that when I'm addicted to tech, it never even occurs to me to do anything other than turn my PC on and browse the net when I have free time. And this is despite the fact that I find the internet and games very boring and/or unappealing now (not sure if this is due to anhedonia, or just growing up). However, when I'm in a phase where I don't let myself use the PC, I suddenly have the desire to do my hobbies, namely cycling, reading, photography, music etc. That said, even in better times, I could never fill a weekend with enough to do, and I always got really bored, and ended up dreading the weekend because of it, despite being a wagie.

Currently I would definitely say I am addicted to tech and the internet, I use it almost constantly during free time, and even when working I always have a podcast on. I obsessively read the news because it's one of the few sites I allow myself to go on, and read most of the stories in the front page and refresh daily for my dopamine kick. I would ban myself from it, but it's difficult text in a foreign language, so I consider it beneficial on the whole for me.

At the moment I really don't feel like changing my addiction, and if anything, I would be fine with becoming "more addicted" if it meant I would become happier. If I could always enjoying using the net and playing video games, I would be content doing that every day until I die. The only reason I even started all of this was because in 2018 I started really not enjoying video games and the internet at all anymore, less and less. If I could go back to when I was 16, spending every free second at my PC and enjoying it, I would totally do it.


Not you but similar experiences and I found I had to just give up on actually enjoying things or at least try to be content with spending my time doing something regardless of if it is offline or online since there is no enjoyment to be gained either way. If you can just enjoy yourself why try be "productive" as you said. So many people get into this trap of poisoning themselves in a way by ascribing lower value to entertaining themselves instead of doing something else without realizing it all serves the same purpose. Commonsense is needed to really understand this though.

good luck lainanon


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>ascribing lower value to entertaining themselves instead of doing something else without realizing it all serves the same purpose.
totally agree, yeah. the other part is that they don't realize it's an inescapable cycle. complete one "productive" task, immedately become consumed by the next. it's all well and good if being productive makes you happy, but ultimately it's not better just in itself. it's a similar story with consumerism… people really want something, buy it, get bored of it, and then see the next thing they desire, buy it, get bored of it, and so it goes. But that's another topic

good luck to you as well :)


People should reevaluate their evaluations and stop judging things as they appear to them erecting barriers that stand in the way of their own well being. It is one thing to punish yourself for doing something you like because you have decided you should feel guilty instead of doing something else you deem productive and another thing to refuse to follow your will when it is seeking its passion for some reason but in general people just need to chill out and live in the moment while being reasonable.
I used to spend all my time studying X or Y instead of actually doing something I enjoyed more because of my own stupidity and now I cannot even enjoy doing what I want lmao.

You mentioned consumerism and this is all quite connected at a fundamental level.. being naturally inclined to just enjoy yourself without understanding how everything is just a fucking meme of drudergy and eternal disatisfaction is probably better than digging deep to see the answer you cannot grasp because you have corrupted yourself from being what is optimal by understanding the process itself.

One day at a time wiz, it will be over one day and after that well we can just hope it does not continue to get worse in whatever unfathomable way that could be.

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Welp, as of yesterday I am now a wizard. Kind of fucked up that I got assigned a cockroach as a familiar but I guess its kind of cute in a way. What skill build should I try?
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Dude. If you just turned 30, you only have access to level 0 familiars. You should have gotten to at least lvl 5 before accepting a utility familiar, or 25 for a combat familiar. Now you have to wait for your cockroach to die naturally before getting a new familiar, which could take forever. Those things are survivors.

There are a lot of flashy builds out there, but don't be fooled. You want to dump all your points into wiz and int, so choose a prestige class that works well with those, like Sage or Alchemist. This allows you to get xp gain skills like Researcher or Contemplation. If you can maximize xp gain, you can get the longevity perks early on, which buys the time necessary to upgrade your spells to max.

A lot of wizzes these days focus on str and cha for a Volcel or Improvebrah build, but there is no high-level cha-based equipment for wizards, so it is impossible to minmax. And str is only useful for risky physical encounters and certain Wageslave-specific skills. Wageslaves were debuffed in the last update, so skip that.

Also, a lot of wizzes will try to get you sucked into the Crab class, but that was a joke from one of the April 1st events. It's a really unbalanced build that is unfun to play, but the devs haven't removed it for years because it became a popular meme.

Good luck, and see you in the Elementorium!


I finally became a wizard as well.
10th September. Remember me.


We have the same birthdate


is this a warlock?



Please don't start cyphered posting if there's not a real intention behind them.

It makes this world even uglier.

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Any other wizzies here doing surveys online to earn some spending money for hobbies? I do it, it can't replace getting a real income or anything but can be a nice way to spend time online productively and get some free spending money for hobbies, I use mine for xbox gift cards since I have series S.
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Yeah, obviously working a job is a better way off getting REAL money, not just gift vouchers, but it can be very hard for a lot of wizzies to get a real job, so this can be a good alternative to wizzies who can't get a job or already have welfare and plenty of free time.


There are better ways of making money without leaving the house.


How much did you get paid for making this comment?


Literally nothing, why would I be getting paid?


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>>183853 it is so badly paid for my time, I didn't feel the urge of dooing so.

I used to do such things when I was still without NEET pill inside me. Now I don't get nervous about being an useless outcast


Any tactics, strategies, or ways you use to manipulate your family in order to leech out of them and be a NEET?
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>don't ever talk back to them and do whatever they say
>try to get diagnosed with a severe mental disorder so they feel bad for you
If in first-world country:
>apply for neetbux to help pay for rent or food
As long as you're respectful and don't start arguments, they shouldn't kick you out


There's not much you can do if your parents are insisting,
Best way I think is to fake attempt suicide or something


>Best way I think is to fake attempt suicide or something

i'd rather work than do something this dramatic


I've outright told my family I WILL kill myself if they try to kick me out, so far it's gotten them off my back.


Try to go to school for as long as possible. Apply for food stamps to help pay for groceries, offer to do shopping for them, etc. Get bux if possible. All of that paired with telling them you are seeing a therapist or psychiatrist will eventually be necessary. Threats of suicide should be used as a last resort if you get desperate.

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As a kid my family NEVER allowed me to go outside besides school which I used a school bus to go to. my dad thought if I go outside and hang out in the streets I would deal with and befriend kids who are into drugs and smoking. so he thought me staying inside in front of the TV would be far better for me. my life was basically going from the bus to school to home in front of the screen basically all the time. but even though this. I was happy staying at home and I never felt lonely or upset about it. the other kids at school found it strange and they questioned me about it sometimes. now many years after primary school I become a long-term 10 years old NEET and hikikomori. I feel that my dad's choice has affected my personality introvertness and passion for staying indoors. as I said I absolutely don't hate my father for it I am only grateful for him as he protected me from bullying and a lot of other unnecessary outdoor stuff I did not need. and I was able to stay comfy indoors. I even find it odd how my family finds it abnormal that I hate going outside now despite them being them who made me like this.
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cause he always have to bring up that hes a hapa and how superior japan/asia is even though hes half white too.


because he always have to bring up his hapa ness and always talks about how superior japan/asian culture is despite being also half white


my parents are absolute hermits or were, funny seeing someone being shut in, only going to work suddenly become an social butterfly at the old age,
parents were happy about me being on pc so much, so they didnt have to worry about me going outside


>I even find it odd how my family finds it abnormal that I hate going outside now despite them being them who made me like this.
as a anon raised for the majority of my childhood by a single working mother in a small house next to a busy road i can relate to it completely.
i essentially was forced to spend all my free time indoors, both because i had to look after things in the house while my mom worked and second because i literally just lived next to a highway ni other kids lived along, there was nothing to do, no parks, trees or kids to play with.
my mom would drive me to school and then I'd walk back an hour on my own and spend until 8pm playing video games or watching tv.
cut to my college graduation day where i left genuinely not knowing anyone on my degree and then my mom expresses concern i may be "to comfortable being alone".
people don't get it, they never will, unlike you i guess i do regret wasting all that time, but it's to late to change that and i don't expect my lifestyle to ever change.


A hoarder's kid. Couldn't have anyone over. Had to keep people from seeing the hoard. My room was the only clean one and had my computer, so it was like the only place I could breathe and feel human. My mom was convinced I would get snatched off the street if I walked to the park at the end of the road. When I was little it was agony not being allowed to go to the swings and shit, then I just accepted maybe some people don't get to be people.

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Why are so many people coming here whining because they are not part of the rest of the sham that is society at large? It's ridiculous.

Society is one big fraud. This site is supposed to be dedicated to those that don't want to be part of it. Yet we have a huge amount of posts from people who can't keep their mouths shut about how sorry they are that they are not participating in it.
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Nah, nurses add more value than people speculating on assets/cryptocurrencies…you'll find out after I run you over and the reality of your newfound paraplegia starts to set in.


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Well, most of wizardhood here are not living in a comfy way, having psychological problems, depression and so on. So its natural to think about what life would be without being a recluse outsider/weirdo.


I hate to break it to you but value has nothing to do with effort or ethics. This is one of the reasons why self improvement is so retarded, because you can spend all that time and money and get nothing out of it. There is no necessary connection between effort and outcome. I don’t care if you tried your hardest on something, if it’s dogshit then I’m not giving you my money for it.

People with lots of money unironically produce a lot of value, because the rate of return on wealth is so high. If you are born with lots of money, you will produce more value than most people who work their entire lives. It’s the same principle that if you are born good looking, you will be more attractive than someone who works out and puts effort into their appearance. Everybody in the west is so self centered and thinks that everybody has intrinsic value, that we are all unique and special and we can all achieve our dreams and amass wealth through labor and skill blah blah blah. The reality is human society has always been dominated by inherited wealth (and genes) and amassed power. After ww2 there was a unique period where some rags to riches was possible, but that is all falling apart again because business capital tends towards monopoly, because the rate of return on wealth is so great. And that’s ok. Inequality is life


So these people's ancestors were lying on a golden mattress and being slightly smarter than everyone else, and for this they (collectively they are capitalism) get to enslave everyone and everything? The idea of slavery should be appalling for a strong and wise man


I mean, I’d love it if we mutilated and neutered all the attractive people and sacked all the rich people cities, carrying off the wealth as our spoils. If the Khmer Rouge started up again, you could count on me to be among the ranks of people throwing urbanite’s babies at walls.

What I don’t like is value systems, organized societies, and succubi. What pissed me off about your picture was the female worship, and the idea that hard work should equal success. Because that itself is slavery.

The reality is that all organized societies involve slavery. Common interest is insured by mutual total alienation that brings us to an investment in the interest of all the others because we are all mutually given over to them. That’s why I’m a wizard. I hate that shit so I stopped bothering with it

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Hate on the world
Hate on lifE
Hate on things
Hate on yourself
Hate on others
Hate on OP
Hate on ideas
Hate on ANYTHING, this is the thread for it

Duke Nukem Theme
Enjoy hatred posting
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watch them go in the comments!
watch them go in the comments!!
Jerome doesn't even say anything against marriage
groids SEETHE when you step on their idol like that and it is glorious


This thread is glowing harder than the Zone.


suppose that is true, why is that a concern? im already convinced that no matter what you do, normgroids will norm


In what way is anything ITT suspicious? Nothing about this is remotely illegal.


Changed my mind, don't care about this world, I just want all people living in it to die, brutally if possible.

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ITT: we talk about all things related to housing.

Topics to discuss ITT could include:
>how to put a roof over your head as cheaply as possible
>access to subsidized/government housing
>the rental application process
>discussion of roommates or neighbors
>room rental strategies and issues
>alternative housing options like trailers
>housing location (rural or urban, which state, high-rise or low-rise, etc.)
>home purchases, renovations and maintenance
>home security
>environmental hazards like pests and mold
>dealing with landlords and property management companies
>other related topics (suggestions welcome)

What is your current housing situation and are you happy with it? What steps are you taking to improve it? What are your plans for the future?

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yuri bezmenov cope


Nobody on wizchan should have roomates. Living with someone whos not family is the second most unwizardly thing ever. Even if you can’t afford it… find some way to afford it. Solitude should be a wizards top priority


How many acres do you have?
Also, how are you going to graze animals/farm vegetables in a forest? Will the soil even be suitable?


Just one acre, but I'm surrounded by a state park and have no immediate neighbors. So I'm able to borrow the surrounding land for the meantime

I'm growing a ton of prickly pears which are damn tough and can grow anywhere. My goat likes the plants in the forest, they prefer bushes and weeds over grass


No offense, but not everywiz wants to live like a meth huffing bum

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