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>>219101May God assist you. Remember the side-practices to not rely on willpower only
>cold showers>HIIT>fasting>when eating, beware of dairy and meats and garlic, coffee, high sugars>not looking at succubi>mostly fresh vegetables >>219349The way of the battlemage. Humilliate them but do not let the fights be prolonged in time, it may affect you.
[–] No.222080>>222146
>>219101Why is it called the rotten path?
[–] No.222102>>222110
>>219153>The brain's reward system is linked to various impulses and habits.Total bullshit and a laughable over-simplification of neuroscience. What exactly is the "reward system", by the way? Is that like some kind of loot system in a video game? Because no where in neuroscience is there anything that looks like or is called the "reward system." The brain is a little more complex than that.
>The method involves depriving yourself of all pleasurable activities for 7 days, including:You can't "detox" the brain from "pleasurable activities" because the activities aren't psycho-active drugs. For fuck sake.
>During this period:7 days where the diet is changed and some life-style factors are addressed. That's bound to cause many changes. Thumbs up.
>5. The goal is to "reset" the brain's reward system, allowing you to build new, healthier habits and improve self-control.No, that's fucking retarded. The brain is not a computer. Any changes are going to take a long time.
See, the problem with you "semen retention" and "no-fap" faggots is you use confirmation bias and bro-tier science to try justify why you think certain habits are bad. But the real reason you think that is because these habits are the ones where you feel social shame for doing them. It's that fucking simple. And yeah, you can waste hours doing this shit and end up exhausted but that hardly has anything to do with whatever retarded shit you're professing about inherent addiction or long-term changes from doing the behavior.
PS: I looked at the "research" cited in the no-fap community. There are random pieces of literature pulled from different time periods irrespective of scientific growth over time. It's the equivalent of taking some archaic view of stomach aches caused by demonic possession and then listing every possible source that agrees with your views. Even when the wider context to all readers point to that view being irrelevant.
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3 days without any porn or masturbation. i'm super horny but oddly enough i don't have a desire to go back. if anything i actually a certain odd sense of shame for all the excessive porn and masturbation. no way i could look at my waifu in the eyes if i stayed that way once i get the fuck out of this demiurge-spawned hellprison.
[–] No.222110>>222114
>>222102Rot in rage, crab.
[–] No.222111>>222116
>>222106Are you applying additional techniques to regulate your urge or going full on sheer willpower like the newbies?
[–] No.222114>>222116
>>222110He's probably happier than you self-loathing, self-flagellating losers.
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>>222111i was never super addicted, tho i did have occasional 3-4 hour edging sessions with ultra-stimulating porn, so the urges to fap and watch porn are there, but not super strong, so i've been ignoring them without problems. also, this might be related, but during my edging days i mastered never going over the edge no matter how strong the urge to do so was, so i think that that mastery is transferring into dealing with these other urges.
>>222114he does not sound happy at all, and if he's constantly squandering his mana he most certainly isn't.
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>>222116Lmao the zoomer gooner
Why do zoomers sit and give themselves blue balls all day, it's no wonder they're all borderline tarded, they just wank all day
[–] No.222118
What is this gooning phenomenon, why do tards even do this to themselves
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>>222116Contrast the two pairs:
1. gets horny and jerks off. goes along with their day.
2. jerks off. feels like crap. decides it must be an inherent issue. joins online community against it. evangelizes for it. goes around preaching the 'virtue' of it online. tries to shame others for jerking off. claims they're unhappy.
which person sounds more unhappy here? more-so, which person sound deranged and might there be other issues here?
[–] No.222121>>222128
>>222120The person who "goes along with their day" is probably doing fuck all with it. The people who decided to quit were the first person at some point but over time realized that they were ignoring or minimizing a lot of negative stuff that came from them masturbating.
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potential good thread hijacked by no fap tards.
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>>222121Eg, they made a bunch of shit up in their heads about how looking at porn/touching yourself/ejaculating: you can do noporn, or nofap, or fap but not ejaculate, or fap but noporn - wow, so many flavours of snake oil, cause tons of issues, when it's just confirmation bias + dudebro science = young, impressionable self-loathing men falling for it. If I don't jerk off for a week, there's no difference at all - it's not some urge I struggle with, it's like playing a game, I do it because I want to, I can easily not, but if I have nothing better to do, I'll do it. It's that simple. If you think your life sucks because you touch your willy or leak semen you're a moron.
[–] No.222129>>222131>>222134
I’ve gone months without fapping before, but the results weren’t what I expected. In the short term, my insomnia got worse, and my anxiety increased.
At first, the sexual urges were intense, but after a while, they disappeared completely. After months without any urges, I got curious about what fapping would feel like again. But when I tried, I could barely get hard, and it felt like nothing. It was as if everything had shut down from lack of use—no libido and a dick that barely worked. That was my reward after three months of NoFap.
Maybe people misunderstand NoFap because most who promote it are just looking to get girlfriends. They don’t experience the same effects because they replace fapping with sex. In that case, what’s even the point? You're still basically a coomer. And if you're not having that release as a male then it seems like you're just going to fuck up your reproductive health.
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>>222129Not to mention how delusional the entire premise is. It's
not going to rearrange your facial bone structure or make you taller.
It wont give you even a single extra dating app match. It wont make any succubus magically approach you.
All that will happen is you agonizing yourself over a dumb internet meme challenge.
[–] No.222132>>222133
regarding semen retention, it's rather simple, i think, but you can't understand it from a reductive materialist perspective, which has become the default western worldview, among normabots as among "wizards" here.
now it's ironic that someone just complained that a self-discipline thread got hijacked by "no fap tards" (nofap isn't the right approach as it's also a materialist one), when it's really the anti-nofap tards that hijacked a thread where some discussion of value could come out between maybe 3-4 truwizards (though it wouldn't be of any value to the materialist "wizards". but materialists can't be wizards because there's no reason to be a wizard if you're a materialist. in such a case you're either a virgin because you can't get sex, so a crab, or it's the result of utilitarian cost-benefit analysis, so mgtow.)
both nofap and anti-nofap are just different positions within the same materialist paradigm, but materialism being false, nothing of value can come from such a discussion.
so it would be nice if the anti-nofap trolls, clearly not interested in any actual discussion and only in throwing insults to posts they're not even understanding, would leave so real discussion could take place itt, but they won't so it can't.
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>>222132You've said precisely jack shit in this post. All you've done is labeled different perspectives based on what you already believe without adding anything to back up why you believe it. Low IQ dribble.
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>>222129You seem ready to try the way of retention along with stimulation. It's easy for you, it seems.
>different energies, different methods. You look like built to collect and recycle mana with ease, after some resistance and also finding your frequency of stimulation you might find a balanceGreasing the groove while not dropping.
>>222131no fap in our case is to prevent decay. It's very rare to find someone using it with deliberate control to nourish back to brain.
Those who can effectively reduce their libido after some time of zero usage of the wank might be able to use it, keeping an intermediate level where retention and the frequency of usage provides actually with healthy libido (not urged, neither flat, used with controlled regularity).
This is peak wizardom. This is deserving our own fantasy meme about virginity.
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>>222134what actual benefits have you experienced?
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>>222135Judging by your sagerage and troongrammar, any benefits we list will just be called a "placebo, cope, delusion" by you and the other sex-dependent "wizards" here.
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>>222135I seek to maintain a decent level of sex drive. Not to cum, not to let it die flaccid.
>>222136A rule of power, my fren:
>"don't pay ears to the little man">wizdom attached [–] No.222140
>>222136>sageragehe's a redditor downvoting
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>>222136I use sage because I don't want to bump other wizards posts down and also because I post a lot. It's politeness, not rage. I also am interested in first hand experiences for "semen retention" because frankly the whole thing still seems bizarre and silly. I am willing to change perspectives if there's evidence though.
[–] No.222146
>>222079Thank you brother, i do fasting which helps alot. I flow with water, none can touch my aura. Hope everything goes well with you.
>>222080Rotten or Rotting Path. Those who have given up and embrace the DETERIORATION of your body/soul/whatever. One of my favourite fictional wizards of the rotten path is from marvel :
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Mahapralaya_(Earth-616)That guy is pretty badass. I respect the rotten path, i've done it for a decade and it has its merits. Oblivion seekers are like archwizards, or maybe liches? :D
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>>222158so basically you're just larping.
[–] No.222165>>222166>>222172
>>222164Nope, I'm actually serious. I shared some of my experiences above itt last year because others did. I thought it was only me, but I've also seen other examples of people going through elsewhere since then.
Why does semen retention have that effect (among others)? If you're a materialist then it can only be larping or schizophrenia (now that you've already accused me of the first, you'll next accuse me of the second), but if you're not then it actually makes perfect sense. So I stand by my statement that it's pointless to try to reason with nofap and anti-fap people about semen retention.
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>>222165maybe it could make a lot of sense actually if it just happens to impact schizophrenic biology somehow. Weird things can happen like how ketogenic diets affect epileptics
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>>222165I don't believe in the super natural. If you can list some normal benefits that don't sound like a psychotic break then id probably take you more seriously.
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>>219100 (OP)I plan to fast at least an entire week this month. The same next month, and so on. I would lift more seriously but I cannot have serious gym gear inside my mom's hauz and I do neither want to fall for the scam of paying gym like a stupid cunt.
Paying gym: the owner gives you access, you give him da money. In the end he has the access and the money while you have none unless you renew subscription. It's pure cuckery
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>>222177The last part applies to everything in life.
Do you think I voluntarily give $900 a month to my landlord or because I wasn't born with the generational wealth to buy it for myself?
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>>222177You don't want to do anything because someone else benefits from your efforts? What a counterproductive and antisocial mindset to have.
When it comes to the gym you get a space where you can train your body filled with equipment that you cannot afford or store otherwise. In exchange the owner gets money. It is a pretty fair trade.
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>>222252Because parents died or they are neglective
>>222253You do not see the scam, nope. You levels of economic cuckoldry are ashaming. The poster right above you seems to have no choice, but your case is truly different.
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>>222253At least the gym is VOLUNTARY. Having a roof over your head where the climate goes below -20c is a need just like food which can't be avoided.
Banks will never give a mortgage to a wizard who lives on minimum wage or disability. You're trapped into giving other people free money and paying off their loan and repair costs while the value of the place also increases gradually.
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>>222259Paying to use something isn't giving free money.
If rentals weren't a option then the only other option would be to go without shelter if you can't afford to buy land and housing outright, or be locked into forever debt.
Miss me with the brain dead commie talking points that even they don't actually believe.
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>>222260>If rentals weren't a option then the only other option would be to go without shelter if you can't afford to buy land and housing outrightUnless you were born rich.
Which is how we get to the Nordic model where you are entitled to housing no matter who you are in society.
And they seem to be doing pretty well financially.
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>>222260And why is land and housing so expensive? Only the rich can afford to buy and own even a modest flat. Oh and those willing to enslave themselves with a loan.
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>>222260Person 1 inherits a house worth a million just by being born into the right family, then leverages it to get a 2 million dollar loan to buy 5 condo apartments.
Person 2 inherits nothing and has no roof over his head.
He gives 1000 dollars a month to Person 1 who uses that money to pay back the loan to his bank, all the while the value of the property keeps increasing.
How is Person 2 not perpetually enriching Person 1, especially as person 2 is *never* going to be given mortgage if they are a
typical wizard demographic who will work a lower tier job at best no matter their degree?
Not only does P2 pay off P1's loan to the bank, whatever is left over after his loan payment P1 pockets as profit.
P2 gets a roof over his head as long as Person 1 feels like it.
He gets nothing tangible or long term in return for his money, whereas P1 keeps getting richer and richer.
If P1 feels like selling the place, he gains the increased value of the property and P2 becomes homeless and has nothing.
It's literally a slave-master relation if you aren't renting by choice but by financial necessity.
You could be homeless any day if the landlord so decides - and you will never get a loan or enough money to buy such a place for yourself to avoid that fate.
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I do have some self-discipline but not always or with all matters. But, when the conditions are right and I set my mind to something it can happen that I can follow through. For example I'm trying to lose weight right now and I am tracking calories of everything that I eat. I made a schedule for weight loss and I'm pretty diligent and consistent in following it. I also track how many steps I walk every day. I lost 7 kg since the start of this February.
https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.htm[–] No.222275
>>222274It is not counting calories what makes you lose fat. Learn from the legend:
https://www.youtube.com/@metabolismotvenglish [–] No.222439>>222440
>>222437Day 15 of no pmo here. I've been pretty much in a hard flatline since day 1. I guess I was just doing it out of habit, now I am realizing how dead my libido truly is.
[–] No.222440>>222441
>>222439Flatlines are normal, i'm also in it. But i feel my PIED recovering, that's when you know it's working.
[–] No.222441>>222448
>>222440I know they're normal but I think it's weird how dead my libido was right from the start. Usually I will struggle with urges in the beginning.
[–] No.222448>>222462
>>222441Well did you do long periods of nofap before starting this streak? I've relapsed xtimes but made it further and further thus the flatline remained meaning the dopa i got wasn't enough to jumpstart my p addiction state. Best we can do is keep going , even after relapses.
>>222441 [–] No.222462>>222465
>>222448No this is the longest pretty much. I'll probably jack off after a month or so but without porn and then go for a couple more weeks no pmo, rinse and repeat. I'm a little worried that not ejaculating after years of doing it daily multiple times might not be that great physically. But I never want to go back to porn.
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>>222462Good plan, porn is the corruptor here. I'll go as long as i can and eventually plan my release with m. Rinse and repeat.
[–] No.222545
>>222158by super natural entities do you mean succubi… ie… non-males… or like.. quite literally you think youre seeing… things that others cant see