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[–]  No.219100[Last 50 Posts]>>219223>>222177[Watch Thread]

Any wiz here that are self discipline monster? Like has really good self discipline or being a wiz inevitable is tied to be lazy?

[–]  No.219101>>219107>>219108>>219144>>222079>>222080

Former follower of the Rotten Path here. I'm currently on the path of semen retention. I feel better, but i know it's hard. Fapping to porn makes me depressed, literaly feel my soul scream to me every fucking time. After decades of this shit , enough is enough. Longest i've been was a month and i was losing my mind, never had such vivid shamanic dreams and couldn't sleep well because of it. No wonder they use SR for magical practices, it 100000x your power.

So yeah, i try.

[–]  No.219107>>219108>>219144>>219262

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>>219101
Also retainer here.The shit I have experienced this year because of retention is beyond ridiculous. I'm the guy they sent a succubus to after my Kundalini awakening. I no longer fear demons or ghosts. Every year from now will get stranger and stranger.

[–]  No.219108>>219144>>219262>>219267

>>219107
Dude , >>219101 here.

You mentioning the succubus threw me off, i just had one visit me last night in my dreams! It was really insane. I even saw Ishtar, completely with wings and tits out address me. I felt the pull to her, but i overcame the desire. And then she became red, overflowing with blood. The rest of the dream was me fighting a gauntlet of monsters, it was like dark souls (wtf) I'm kinda curious what i'll dream next. And props to your awakening, i want to become stronger too in this strange journey ;)

[–]  No.219144>>219153

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>>219101
>>219107
>>219108
keep it up wizbros, me also started to retain like 3 weeks ago, and fixed my sleep schedule 2 months ago.
daily excercising (1 day weightlifting 1 day cardio) daily reading books. even if this "habits" just bare minimum, im living happy, fulfilled, loving life. because i lived in self destroying/loathing shitpool most of my life.
i know the pain i know the hedonist habits nothing but road to hell.

[–]  No.219153>>222102

>>219144
I got tired of reading that halfway through so I used AI to condense that word salad into the important bits:

1. The brain's reward system is linked to various impulses and habits.

2. The method involves depriving yourself of all pleasurable activities for 7 days, including:
- No entertainment (video games, music, TV, internet)
- No phone or social media
- No masturbation
- No contact with people you like
- Minimal personal items in your room

3. During this period:
- Eat a high-protein diet
- Only engage in reading, lifting weights, and possibly meditation
- Avoid idleness and daydreaming[

4. After 7 days, gradually reintroduce positive habits first.

5. The goal is to "reset" the brain's reward system, allowing you to build new, healthier habits and improve self-control.

The author claims this method drastically improved their discipline, focus, and overall well-being

[–]  No.219155>>219156>>219158

I don't lile these "self discipline" people, I tend to look down on them because all they want is to see others follow their path and think their advices are god's words, like : DUDE I found THE thing that will make you alpha male TRUST ME!!
but anyway,nevermind Im just being grumpy

[–]  No.219156>>219157>>219158

>>219155
I dislike them because they tend to not be very bright and have a one-size-fits-all mindset. They think the more they hype themselves up and the harder they bash their head against the door, the faster it will open. In reality, before you act, you need a plan, some kind of insight into the problem… I don't know, I just never managed to accomplish anything by just screaming SELF-DISCIPLINE!!!!!!! and hoping shit goes well. It was always a slow and patient process, nothing happening for a long time before it becomes clear. If the process is painful, it's usually the wrong approach.

I guess behind the fantasy of self-discipline is the idea that you could achieve whatever you want, as long as you suffer through some required amount of pain. It really doesn't work that way, it's always more complicated, and your hard work is usually just one small piece of a bigger puzzle, mainly everything aligning in the environment so that your efforts actually have an effect. The idea that you're the only obstacle in your path is a convenient fantasy, unfortunately. And when you feel the resistance towards work, that's the world itself pushing back, not your own lack of will.

[–]  No.219157>>219161

>>219156
I don't like them either but the only thing they're right about is to start doing things and not procrastinate, which I agree. but thats all

[–]  No.219158>>219159>>219160>>219161

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>>219155
>>219156
>everything is more complicated bro. me haves 82 iq i know you can't be god tier only because you become disciplined trust me bro
oh really? we didn't know that, thanks.

[–]  No.219159

>>219158
what do you mean?

[–]  No.219160

>>219158
you're the one using the strawman

[–]  No.219161>>219162>>219166>>219182>>219257

>>219157
i disagree even with that. people tend to procrastinate precisely when what is to be done is unclear and to repeat vehemently "just do it!!!" simply begs the question. action is the very last step and it's the easiest when it's completely evident that A leads to B, one needs no self-disciple to execute it. it seems to me the only time you really need "self-discipline" is when you're so completely lost and hopeless that you just throw punches into the air hoping that something happens and your entire mind-body apparatus screams at you to stop and reflect, yet you suppress these vital signals and claim it's a virtue of some kind…

>>219158
case in point… this man thinks he can even become god if he works hard enough apparently lol

[–]  No.219162>>219163>>219166

>>219161
>case in point… this man thinks he can even become god if he works hard enough apparently lol
why are you mocking me? I never said you could become god

[–]  No.219163>>219165>>219166

>>219162
well, "god-tier". whatever that means in your exaggerated dudebro world. funny you complain about mocking when your last comment was doing just that lol

[–]  No.219165

>>219163
I'm not a dudebro. yoy're mocking me too

[–]  No.219166

>>219163
>>219161
what the f are you even talking about lel. you explain the most basic reasoning process as if you have solved something very big, there is nothing worth sitting and answering, it is a complete comedy. try harder bro, you can make a better argument than the conclusions of a five-year-old, YOU CAN DO IT.
>>219162
this is not my post

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>>219161
>action is the very last step and it's the easiest when it's completely evident that A leads to B
Wrong.
Action is the first - middle - last step. Theory has no place in actually accomplishing something.
Also discipline is for faggots. What you need is addiction.

[–]  No.219183

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Today I have decided to start working out more

[–]  No.219223

>>219100 (OP)
Far from a monster. But slightly better than last month I think. Mainly trying to exercise a bit every day, going for more walks, reading more, spending less time at my pc etc.

[–]  No.219254>>219255>>219256

So, being a wiz is inevitable tied to being a lazy bum? I wonder if there's any wiz here that actually is a self disciplined as fuck.

[–]  No.219255

>>219254
>So, being a wiz is inevitable tied to being a lazy bum?
no
>I wonder if there's any wiz here that actually is a self disciplined as fuck.
yes they exist

[–]  No.219256>>219258>>219260

>>219254
No, a wizard is just a societal outcast. There are bums and people that "grind" consistently.

[–]  No.219257

>>219161
Most of the time procrastination is an attempt to preserve the ego from failure. It's like how shitty finances are due to the ostrich effect of not following your spending.

[–]  No.219258>>219260

>>219256
>a wizard is just a societal outcast.
No, what makes a wizard isn't at all dependent on how he's perceived, treated, or accepted by any "society". A wizard is defined by nobody's determination but his own.

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>>219256
>>219258
A wizard is defined by… being a virgin past the age of 30. Simple as.
(picture unrelated)

[–]  No.219262>>219263

>>219107
>>219108
that's so interesting what you guys are saying, i was also visited by some kind of seductive female entity when finally getting a good retention streak. it makes me think that the magnetism that sr and nofap people talk about is not just limited to this physical world.

[–]  No.219263>>219267>>219276

>>219262
I actually physically held her hand. It all felt so amazingly real, like they can pull you into this pocket reality where the physical sensation of them is genuine. It never went further than that, I keep refusing. Things are after our souls.

[–]  No.219265>>219267>>219276>>220153

Are you niggas talking about going on date with bitches but acting like it is some magical wizard shit so you don't get banned?

[–]  No.219267

>>219263

>>219108 here, it could be some kind of psychic realm or the qliphothic spheres. Overcoming the seduction is the first step to betterment. The beast will return but keep fighting it. Since that dream i've wandered into strange places, saw old acquaintances and i thik i hit some kind of flatline. succubi do nothing for me, it's like watching lumps of (sagging) meat. Focusing on training my body with weights, pushups, bands to improve my focus and health.

Also kinda nice to see my former brothers of the rotten path posting here. They have a point but i found decay boring and full of suffering. The path of retention is also hard but it's never boring.

>>219265
No, don't lose your power. Bitches are evil, they are the ruin of reality (procreating etc).

[–]  No.219276

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>>219263
yes, i also felt mine, tho i couldn't see her because it was in complete darkness. at first i was panicking, but then this feeling of pure love emanated from her. however, i've spend enough time on /x/ to know to be very wary of such encounters and entities.

>>219265
no, it's true. astral bitches coming for your mana, i mean. i've seen many cases around. also that shirtless kid who'd explain weird physics in front of a whiteboard. he was also visited by a female entity of this kind when he was at the depths of his psychosis very close to enlightenment. but he embraced her, and look where that took him.

may god protect me from such astral succs, because from the physical ones my hygiene already does.

[–]  No.219277

>thread about self discipline somehow became a thread about schizos tulpas

[–]  No.219278>>219281>>219282>>219301>>220154

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im using mainstream media sometimes. waman and normies are seething on this nofap and retention thing so fucking bad.
crabs and normies/waman are in the same look on the self discipline, nofap or self improvement.
you can see, even their stupid jeering is the same. if these subhumans hate your way, you know you are in the true path.
I don't understand why you get angry because a person is improving himself. what the actual fuck?
mainstream media ridicules nofap and retention disciplines, spewing shit that not touching your dick is misogyny.

self improvement is ridiculed in the crab community because these sub-humans who operate under the assumption that everything is done to get to succubi.
both sides are obsessed with succubi and have a succubus-centered mindset, one side hates succubi but puts succubi at the center of everything, the other side tries to dictate everywhere that succubi are pure goddesses.
self improvement is the best mindset in this era, the best communities, its not about being a muscle head, it is about setting goals in life and having the discipline to achieve them.
it is not a phenomenon that andrew tate style cartoonish characters try to embrace. get your head out of the sand.

[–]  No.219281>>219282

>>219278
>Kant died a virgin and avoided masturbation his entire life
>the precise formalism of the social as such, distilled in the formula 'law = humanity
>We must, however, remark that separation from all society is regarded as sublime, if it rests upon Ideas that overlook all sensible interest. To be sufficient for oneself, and consequently to have no need of society, without at the same time being unsociable, i.e. without flying from it, is something bordering on the sublime; as is any dispensing with wants. On the other hand, to fly from men from misanthropy, because we bear ill-will to them, or from anthropophoby (shyness), because we fear them as foes, is partly hateful, partly contemptible

He also wrote that the idea of the moral law is the personality itself ( the idea of HUMANITY regarded intellectually ) and that man viewed as a person is the homo noumenon. The concept of intelligibility is dualistically fucked up, God is conjured up from the moral law. The most bullshit philosophy if it is taken as it is. I'm not an edgelord, but I want a more non-normalfaggot Kant.

[–]  No.219282>>219283>>219285

>>219281
>>219278
I learned about few weeks ago that kant was a racist. it made me look down on him now. it's weird to learn someone who's a self titled philosophe and say things that aren't love for wisdom (this is what philosophy means)
nevermind

[–]  No.219283>>219284

>>219282
He wrote that natives may be colonized and enslaved due to their lack of capacity for practical reason aka Christianity. It's not about biological race. Both radical racists and the left occasionally attack humanism. I don't like it, too.

[–]  No.219284>>219286

>>219283
why don't you like humanism?

[–]  No.219285>>219289

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>>219282
>racism…… IS BAD!!!!111111
Got lost on your way to Reddit or X, bud?

[–]  No.219286>>219289

>>219284
Humanity is a buzzword, humanism is a spawn of judeo-christian religiosity and rationalism of Renaissance philosophy. I don't want to see most humans burden the earth. I'm an antinatalist. For Kant, nothing cruel is really bad if it serves humanist ideology, he defines man's duties to oneself as duties towards humanity in him (Amphibolie). Not towards biological humanity, once again, but whatever this mystical word dictates to my ears.

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>>219286
ok
>>219285
ugh… I'm not a real racist even if I have racist thoughts

[–]  No.219295>>219297

Eureka. An idea has cut through my brain like a soft cheese and led me to an invention. I have come up with a way to orgasm with no cum and zero risk, you just basically get there as fast as you can and try and get ahead of the cum and post orgasm deny your boys passage through the inner chamber. I dub this technique Sonic The Hedgecock.

[–]  No.219297>>219349

>>219295
Heretic!

Another crazy SR dream, succubus literaly telling me i have to relieve myself and she could help. I started saying some funny shit like "go away jezebel!" "in the name of the lord i cast you out", it was hilarious. But it worked, i got ejected from the dream and woke up. Next dream i wandered the plains and connected with the worldsoul, absolutely shaman stuff. Feel tired though, i hope i don't go crazy again.

[–]  No.219301

>>219278
That pic is so cringe

[–]  No.219308>>219314

>>219289
Racist is a broad term. He didn't use the individual variation as a quality analogous to freedom explicitly to justify colonialism. You can be racist and oppose colonialism. Freedom ( empirically-psychological, positive, negative freedom ) is a mere idea without reality, everything that ethically preserves is equally justified for idealists. I will free only if I will autonomously. You may find all that stuff in a philosphical dictionary, plus any Kantians should be present here on a cel board, i guess. It is Nietzsche who said In the Gay Science do not talk to me about the categorical imperative the persistency of your moral judgment might still be just a proof of personal wretchedness or impersonality. I respect Kant but it's plainly cucked to equate self-discipline with morality, just see how sanctimoniously normalfaggish the guy in the pic sounds. I could try to morally justify racism firstly by pointing to the spontaneity of evolutionary processes and trying to show the apriority of logical laws in the organisation of the genus as F. A. Lange did ( Kant himself called the practical reason a naturally acquired faculty which amounts to saying that there would be no faculty of reason without the evolution of the upright posture and the development of the brain etc. all qualities of the higher race ) and then historically but I still cannot give a truly moral account of my other worldviews such as celibacy and antinatalism.

[–]  No.219314>>219437

>>219308
is racism moral? is it what you're trying to say to me? if yes, I don't know. I like philosophy but when I read some philosophical book, I understand nothing of partially. you seem to be acknowlegable in philosophy. I wish I knew

[–]  No.219316

why did you delete your post?

[–]  No.219349>>219420>>222079

>>219297 here

Anyone attract the most negative asshole guys on SR? Almost got into fights on the way to work and on my job. It's like the darkness finds you and wants to fuck with you. I never believed in the devil, or the evil powers but damn i'm starting to. It's like something wants you to get off the path. When you are sinning, the devil/demiurge leaves you alone. When you try to be better, it's gonna fuck with you . Maybe it's all in my head, but damn what a trip. Still have insane dreams, visited shadow world of my old house with my family members (really painful), one succubus even said to stop simping. When does it stop? I just wanna havenormal sleep, not be on shroomdreams everyfuckingday.

[–]  No.219420>>219431

>>219349
how long have you been on retention?

[–]  No.219431

>>219420
A month. I relapsed though, i just needed sleep otherwise i cant function. The moment i restarted the dreamentities started bothering me again. Its all bullshit i know but its like living a complete vivid different life waking up exhausted/excited/amazed/ horrified.

Maybe ill go the noporn route, masturbating once a week or something. If i didnt have a job i would do SR until i mastered the plains.

[–]  No.219437>>219438

>>219314
yap yap yap
GTKRWN
Fuck niggers

[–]  No.219438

>>219437
I'm not racist, I just wish I was never born. The idea of radical evil is subhumanity. Now evil is either sensuality as original sin (sex) or reason (pronatalism), the two roots of knowledge. I'd be a completely delusional schizo if I introduced a racial hierarchy of biological volcels into my hypothetical kingdom of ends. I hope you understand, Kant is a sort of critical pantheist, the idea that we must think of the absolute on the analogy of human relationships. Cognition depends on a feeling and the feeling of respect for the law is the feeling of humanity. Schopenhauer objectifies the will, that is, the feeling, equating it with the thing-in-itself and claims that he can feel it in concreto (»the psychic energy«, libido) and we have voluntarism/vitalism/physico-theology. But any vitalistic hierarchy is senseless.

[–]  No.220007>>220014>>220015

it's not possible past your 30s it's really hard to change

[–]  No.220014>>220120

>>220007
You are right that it is harder to change, but that doesn't mean it is impossible.

[–]  No.220015

>>220007
The only constant in life is change.
As long as you are alive you will change. In what form that change takes is partially determined by your will and actions.
Being 30+ doesn't change that fact of life.

[–]  No.220017>>220018>>221733

Are there any resources related to semen retention? I am unable to do anything without an info dump or chart.

[–]  No.220018>>220019

>>220017
>I am unable to do anything without an info dump or chart.
Then you have failed as a man.

[–]  No.220019>>220020>>220021

>>220018
>Then you have failed as a man.
Well I am on wizchan…

[–]  No.220020

>>220019
go back

[–]  No.220021

>>220019
Math lessom, retard: No put penis go in butthole ≠ failing as a man (≠)!!!!!

[–]  No.220120

>>220014
It's also more urgent to change. Being 30+ now and I've never been more fit, because it had to be done. I train my body regularly. I lost weight very slowly over many months and I've never felt better. The extra strength, agility, reach, balance, etc. have been amazing. I've done all this at 32-33.

[–]  No.220145

i’m sorry, guys, i failed nnn because i had a wet dream with harley quinn. then when i woke up i thought, fuck it, might as well fap all i want, already came anyway. all my accumulated essence down the drain because of some hot psycho clown. i feel like shit. it’s not worth it.

[–]  No.220153


[–]  No.220154

>>219278
that image is retarded lol watching porn does not make you perform worse with holes in real life nor does it make you desire the less

[–]  No.221733

>>220017
Brahmacharya tips can help you through it.

[–]  No.222079>>222146

>>219101
May God assist you. Remember the side-practices to not rely on willpower only
>cold showers
>HIIT
>fasting
>when eating, beware of dairy and meats and garlic, coffee, high sugars
>not looking at succubi
>mostly fresh vegetables

>>219349
The way of the battlemage. Humilliate them but do not let the fights be prolonged in time, it may affect you.

[–]  No.222080>>222146

>>219101

Why is it called the rotten path?

[–]  No.222102>>222110

>>219153
>The brain's reward system is linked to various impulses and habits.

Total bullshit and a laughable over-simplification of neuroscience. What exactly is the "reward system", by the way? Is that like some kind of loot system in a video game? Because no where in neuroscience is there anything that looks like or is called the "reward system." The brain is a little more complex than that.

>The method involves depriving yourself of all pleasurable activities for 7 days, including:


You can't "detox" the brain from "pleasurable activities" because the activities aren't psycho-active drugs. For fuck sake.

>During this period:


7 days where the diet is changed and some life-style factors are addressed. That's bound to cause many changes. Thumbs up.

>5. The goal is to "reset" the brain's reward system, allowing you to build new, healthier habits and improve self-control.


No, that's fucking retarded. The brain is not a computer. Any changes are going to take a long time.

See, the problem with you "semen retention" and "no-fap" faggots is you use confirmation bias and bro-tier science to try justify why you think certain habits are bad. But the real reason you think that is because these habits are the ones where you feel social shame for doing them. It's that fucking simple. And yeah, you can waste hours doing this shit and end up exhausted but that hardly has anything to do with whatever retarded shit you're professing about inherent addiction or long-term changes from doing the behavior.

PS: I looked at the "research" cited in the no-fap community. There are random pieces of literature pulled from different time periods irrespective of scientific growth over time. It's the equivalent of taking some archaic view of stomach aches caused by demonic possession and then listing every possible source that agrees with your views. Even when the wider context to all readers point to that view being irrelevant.

[–]  No.222106>>222111

3 days without any porn or masturbation. i'm super horny but oddly enough i don't have a desire to go back. if anything i actually a certain odd sense of shame for all the excessive porn and masturbation. no way i could look at my waifu in the eyes if i stayed that way once i get the fuck out of this demiurge-spawned hellprison.

[–]  No.222110>>222114

>>222102
Rot in rage, crab.

[–]  No.222111>>222116

>>222106
Are you applying additional techniques to regulate your urge or going full on sheer willpower like the newbies?

[–]  No.222114>>222116

>>222110
He's probably happier than you self-loathing, self-flagellating losers.

[–]  No.222116>>222117>>222120

>>222111
i was never super addicted, tho i did have occasional 3-4 hour edging sessions with ultra-stimulating porn, so the urges to fap and watch porn are there, but not super strong, so i've been ignoring them without problems. also, this might be related, but during my edging days i mastered never going over the edge no matter how strong the urge to do so was, so i think that that mastery is transferring into dealing with these other urges.

>>222114
he does not sound happy at all, and if he's constantly squandering his mana he most certainly isn't.

[–]  No.222117

>>222116
Lmao the zoomer gooner

Why do zoomers sit and give themselves blue balls all day, it's no wonder they're all borderline tarded, they just wank all day

[–]  No.222118

What is this gooning phenomenon, why do tards even do this to themselves

[–]  No.222120>>222121

>>222116
Contrast the two pairs:

1. gets horny and jerks off. goes along with their day.
2. jerks off. feels like crap. decides it must be an inherent issue. joins online community against it. evangelizes for it. goes around preaching the 'virtue' of it online. tries to shame others for jerking off. claims they're unhappy.

which person sounds more unhappy here? more-so, which person sound deranged and might there be other issues here?

[–]  No.222121>>222128

>>222120
The person who "goes along with their day" is probably doing fuck all with it. The people who decided to quit were the first person at some point but over time realized that they were ignoring or minimizing a lot of negative stuff that came from them masturbating.

[–]  No.222124>>222125

potential good thread hijacked by no fap tards.

[–]  No.222125

>>222124
💪 eat shit

[–]  No.222128

>>222121
Eg, they made a bunch of shit up in their heads about how looking at porn/touching yourself/ejaculating: you can do noporn, or nofap, or fap but not ejaculate, or fap but noporn - wow, so many flavours of snake oil, cause tons of issues, when it's just confirmation bias + dudebro science = young, impressionable self-loathing men falling for it. If I don't jerk off for a week, there's no difference at all - it's not some urge I struggle with, it's like playing a game, I do it because I want to, I can easily not, but if I have nothing better to do, I'll do it. It's that simple. If you think your life sucks because you touch your willy or leak semen you're a moron.

[–]  No.222129>>222131>>222134

I’ve gone months without fapping before, but the results weren’t what I expected. In the short term, my insomnia got worse, and my anxiety increased.

At first, the sexual urges were intense, but after a while, they disappeared completely. After months without any urges, I got curious about what fapping would feel like again. But when I tried, I could barely get hard, and it felt like nothing. It was as if everything had shut down from lack of use—no libido and a dick that barely worked. That was my reward after three months of NoFap.

Maybe people misunderstand NoFap because most who promote it are just looking to get girlfriends. They don’t experience the same effects because they replace fapping with sex. In that case, what’s even the point? You're still basically a coomer. And if you're not having that release as a male then it seems like you're just going to fuck up your reproductive health.

[–]  No.222131>>222134

>>222129
Not to mention how delusional the entire premise is. It's
not going to rearrange your facial bone structure or make you taller.
It wont give you even a single extra dating app match. It wont make any succubus magically approach you.

All that will happen is you agonizing yourself over a dumb internet meme challenge.

[–]  No.222132>>222133

regarding semen retention, it's rather simple, i think, but you can't understand it from a reductive materialist perspective, which has become the default western worldview, among normabots as among "wizards" here.

now it's ironic that someone just complained that a self-discipline thread got hijacked by "no fap tards" (nofap isn't the right approach as it's also a materialist one), when it's really the anti-nofap tards that hijacked a thread where some discussion of value could come out between maybe 3-4 truwizards (though it wouldn't be of any value to the materialist "wizards". but materialists can't be wizards because there's no reason to be a wizard if you're a materialist. in such a case you're either a virgin because you can't get sex, so a crab, or it's the result of utilitarian cost-benefit analysis, so mgtow.)

both nofap and anti-nofap are just different positions within the same materialist paradigm, but materialism being false, nothing of value can come from such a discussion.

so it would be nice if the anti-nofap trolls, clearly not interested in any actual discussion and only in throwing insults to posts they're not even understanding, would leave so real discussion could take place itt, but they won't so it can't.

[–]  No.222133

>>222132
You've said precisely jack shit in this post. All you've done is labeled different perspectives based on what you already believe without adding anything to back up why you believe it. Low IQ dribble.

[–]  No.222134>>222135

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>>222129
You seem ready to try the way of retention along with stimulation. It's easy for you, it seems.
>different energies, different methods. You look like built to collect and recycle mana with ease, after some resistance and also finding your frequency of stimulation you might find a balance
Greasing the groove while not dropping.

>>222131
no fap in our case is to prevent decay. It's very rare to find someone using it with deliberate control to nourish back to brain.

Those who can effectively reduce their libido after some time of zero usage of the wank might be able to use it, keeping an intermediate level where retention and the frequency of usage provides actually with healthy libido (not urged, neither flat, used with controlled regularity).

This is peak wizardom. This is deserving our own fantasy meme about virginity.

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>>222134
what actual benefits have you experienced?

[–]  No.222136>>222137>>222140>>222141

>>222135
Judging by your sagerage and troongrammar, any benefits we list will just be called a "placebo, cope, delusion" by you and the other sex-dependent "wizards" here.

[–]  No.222137

>>222135
I seek to maintain a decent level of sex drive. Not to cum, not to let it die flaccid.

>>222136
A rule of power, my fren:
>"don't pay ears to the little man"
>wizdom attached

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>>222136
>sagerage
he's a redditor downvoting

[–]  No.222141>>222158

>>222136
I use sage because I don't want to bump other wizards posts down and also because I post a lot. It's politeness, not rage. I also am interested in first hand experiences for "semen retention" because frankly the whole thing still seems bizarre and silly. I am willing to change perspectives if there's evidence though.

[–]  No.222146

>>222079
Thank you brother, i do fasting which helps alot. I flow with water, none can touch my aura. Hope everything goes well with you.

>>222080
Rotten or Rotting Path. Those who have given up and embrace the DETERIORATION of your body/soul/whatever. One of my favourite fictional wizards of the rotten path is from marvel :

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Mahapralaya_(Earth-616)

That guy is pretty badass. I respect the rotten path, i've done it for a decade and it has its merits. Oblivion seekers are like archwizards, or maybe liches? :D

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>>222141
>I also am interested in first hand experiences for "semen retention"
I have found in my personal experience that it attracts more supernatural entities, all of them dubious. So it's not a path for everyone.

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>>222158
so basically you're just larping.

[–]  No.222165>>222166>>222172

>>222164
Nope, I'm actually serious. I shared some of my experiences above itt last year because others did. I thought it was only me, but I've also seen other examples of people going through elsewhere since then.

Why does semen retention have that effect (among others)? If you're a materialist then it can only be larping or schizophrenia (now that you've already accused me of the first, you'll next accuse me of the second), but if you're not then it actually makes perfect sense. So I stand by my statement that it's pointless to try to reason with nofap and anti-fap people about semen retention.

[–]  No.222166

>>222165
maybe it could make a lot of sense actually if it just happens to impact schizophrenic biology somehow. Weird things can happen like how ketogenic diets affect epileptics

[–]  No.222172

>>222165
I don't believe in the super natural. If you can list some normal benefits that don't sound like a psychotic break then id probably take you more seriously.

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>>219100 (OP)
I plan to fast at least an entire week this month. The same next month, and so on. I would lift more seriously but I cannot have serious gym gear inside my mom's hauz and I do neither want to fall for the scam of paying gym like a stupid cunt.

Paying gym: the owner gives you access, you give him da money. In the end he has the access and the money while you have none unless you renew subscription. It's pure cuckery

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>>222177
The last part applies to everything in life.

Do you think I voluntarily give $900 a month to my landlord or because I wasn't born with the generational wealth to buy it for myself?

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>>222177

You don't want to do anything because someone else benefits from your efforts? What a counterproductive and antisocial mindset to have.

When it comes to the gym you get a space where you can train your body filled with equipment that you cannot afford or store otherwise. In exchange the owner gets money. It is a pretty fair trade.

[–]  No.222254

>>222252
Because parents died or they are neglective

>>222253
You do not see the scam, nope. You levels of economic cuckoldry are ashaming. The poster right above you seems to have no choice, but your case is truly different.

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>>222253
At least the gym is VOLUNTARY. Having a roof over your head where the climate goes below -20c is a need just like food which can't be avoided.

Banks will never give a mortgage to a wizard who lives on minimum wage or disability. You're trapped into giving other people free money and paying off their loan and repair costs while the value of the place also increases gradually.

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>>222259
Paying to use something isn't giving free money.

If rentals weren't a option then the only other option would be to go without shelter if you can't afford to buy land and housing outright, or be locked into forever debt.

Miss me with the brain dead commie talking points that even they don't actually believe.

[–]  No.222268

>>222260
>If rentals weren't a option then the only other option would be to go without shelter if you can't afford to buy land and housing outright

Unless you were born rich.

Which is how we get to the Nordic model where you are entitled to housing no matter who you are in society.
And they seem to be doing pretty well financially.

[–]  No.222271

>>222260
And why is land and housing so expensive? Only the rich can afford to buy and own even a modest flat. Oh and those willing to enslave themselves with a loan.

[–]  No.222273

>>222260
Person 1 inherits a house worth a million just by being born into the right family, then leverages it to get a 2 million dollar loan to buy 5 condo apartments.

Person 2 inherits nothing and has no roof over his head.
He gives 1000 dollars a month to Person 1 who uses that money to pay back the loan to his bank, all the while the value of the property keeps increasing.

How is Person 2 not perpetually enriching Person 1, especially as person 2 is *never* going to be given mortgage if they are a
typical wizard demographic who will work a lower tier job at best no matter their degree?

Not only does P2 pay off P1's loan to the bank, whatever is left over after his loan payment P1 pockets as profit.
P2 gets a roof over his head as long as Person 1 feels like it.
He gets nothing tangible or long term in return for his money, whereas P1 keeps getting richer and richer.
If P1 feels like selling the place, he gains the increased value of the property and P2 becomes homeless and has nothing.

It's literally a slave-master relation if you aren't renting by choice but by financial necessity.
You could be homeless any day if the landlord so decides - and you will never get a loan or enough money to buy such a place for yourself to avoid that fate.

[–]  No.222274>>222275

I do have some self-discipline but not always or with all matters. But, when the conditions are right and I set my mind to something it can happen that I can follow through. For example I'm trying to lose weight right now and I am tracking calories of everything that I eat. I made a schedule for weight loss and I'm pretty diligent and consistent in following it. I also track how many steps I walk every day. I lost 7 kg since the start of this February.

https://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.htm

[–]  No.222275

>>222274
It is not counting calories what makes you lose fat. Learn from the legend: https://www.youtube.com/@metabolismotvenglish

[–]  No.222437>>222439

Going strong on Semen Retention, it's like my base state. SR oozes godly aura, willpower and you don't need to manipulate anything. It's like you are john constantine, travelling the synchronicity wave. The world goes right for you. You are enough. I don't get any more visits from demonic entities in my sleep, guess they gave up.

[–]  No.222439>>222440

>>222437
Day 15 of no pmo here. I've been pretty much in a hard flatline since day 1. I guess I was just doing it out of habit, now I am realizing how dead my libido truly is.

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>>222439
Flatlines are normal, i'm also in it. But i feel my PIED recovering, that's when you know it's working.

[–]  No.222441>>222448

>>222440
I know they're normal but I think it's weird how dead my libido was right from the start. Usually I will struggle with urges in the beginning.

[–]  No.222448>>222462

>>222441
Well did you do long periods of nofap before starting this streak? I've relapsed xtimes but made it further and further thus the flatline remained meaning the dopa i got wasn't enough to jumpstart my p addiction state. Best we can do is keep going , even after relapses.

>>222441

[–]  No.222462>>222465

>>222448
No this is the longest pretty much. I'll probably jack off after a month or so but without porn and then go for a couple more weeks no pmo, rinse and repeat. I'm a little worried that not ejaculating after years of doing it daily multiple times might not be that great physically. But I never want to go back to porn.

[–]  No.222465

>>222462
Good plan, porn is the corruptor here. I'll go as long as i can and eventually plan my release with m. Rinse and repeat.

[–]  No.222545

>>222158
by super natural entities do you mean succubi… ie… non-males… or like.. quite literally you think youre seeing… things that others cant see


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