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What does your world look like? How do you live your life? Is your world a nice place?

I think the world is fundamentally bad (a la Ligotti/Inmendham), but there are ways that we can extract enjoyment from it. As for how I live, I believe that we have partial control over how we feel, so I force my brain to feel energetic and happy.
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programming jobs

Me mom wants me to study something next year,and since i cant do a full career at uni,we decided I have to do something computer-related,so im using electronics all day.
now,i dont know any language,I can use deep web,solve basic PC problems,but thats it.
can an adult learn from 0?is it possible to get a job or trade with programming or web-designer skills?
i eagerly await help and advice,im needing income
R: 69 / I: 9

Your thoughts on the 2010s?

I can't believe it's about to be 2020 in less than 4 months. It went by too fast. Still feels like 2009 was barely 4 years ago.
R: 40 / I: 0


Hi, I'm a 27yo french neet wizard who've been put in mental asylum by his father two years ago.

Psychiatrics gave me antipsychotics drugs with a needle in my ass.

I'm out of hospital right now but I have a mandatory case who said if I don't get the needle every three weeks, cops come to me and put me back in asylum.

I've met the judge twice but he says I'm mad…

There are more than 100.000 people every years put through strength in mental asylum each year in France. Doctors says everyone of those is insane, they says 12.000.000 people have mental disease in France.
R: 124 / I: 9


What was your school life like? Was it hell? I came close to dropping out like four times.
R: 200 / I: 22
so what do you do all day? are you like me? i get up in the morning and get on the computer until sun down. i have been doing this for more than a decade. i spent my entire 20s on the internet
R: 36 / I: 4

Inability to speak well

Does anyone else suffer from this issue? It seems to me that I have trouble constructing sentences when I am talking to people in real life, and even I get my words mixed up when I talk to myself on camera (I make video journals for myself). The issue gets worse when I argue with someone and my words get slurred. I am jealous of people who can quickly form sentences while I need sometime to make up those sentences. I see these same people who can make fluid conversation and I sometimes wonder if there is something wrong with me. It's like they know instantly what to say and how to say it.

A bit of history: When I was a year old I suffered from a seizure that delayed my ability to articulate speech until the age of 7. My mother told me that when I was 5 I could only speak a couple of words. I was in speech classes in school up all the way to 6th grade.

How does one improve speech?
R: 24 / I: 2

Urban v. Rural

I don't know if this belongs in the wageslave thread, or if I shouldn't be making this because it sounds like 'bragging.' I left the city about three years ago to somewhere with a population <10k, and I have to say HOLY SHIT HAVE THINGS GOTTEN EASIER.

Constantly have to worry about someone breaking in? Nope.
Obnoxious normies at 2 in the morning? Nope.
Can I find employment? Fuck yes. Everyone else who is young left for the city (boomers amazed at someone simply knowing how to use a computer).
Cost of living? Cheap. The reduction in the cost of rent alone more than accounts for the decrease in any wage.
Meanwhile all the normies complain about "having nothing to do" in a small town just makes me think that I've made the completely correct choice.

It's just…I feel like a goddam human being again. The level of stress is so much less. I want to cry.

Anyone else leave the city?
R: 34 / I: 4

"Anon, are you gay?"

How many here have had the "Anon, are you gay?" talk or just people in general being convinced you're gay?

FWIW, I don't want to copypasta myself, but my version of that is buried in a thread over here: >>160907 .
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Where can I get windows 10 for free?

Please help. Did you guys pay for yours? I hear most people nowadays don't.
R: 49 / I: 4
Seriously, do you think that self diagnosis can be done? Because I do and I will never pay for a psychologist. But normies of course just say the line "seek help"
R: 120 / I: 3

Have you ever thought about becoming a lolcow cringe comedy character?

I know most people would ask why would anyone want to be a laughing stock town fool of the internet? But way back to childhood days, the only options I ever had were to be an ignored quiet mouse or a loud wacky cartoonish entertainment monkey. Mouse or Monkey thats it. And so I became a local celebrity of my school days. Sometimes I would get resentful that they were laughing at me, not with me, mocking me, teasing making fun. Like the lolcows of the internet. But after trying to be serious in college, and just being totally ignored, I realized that attention beats isolation, and its the only means of socialization I know. For the last few years I've retreated back into my mouse role, and have had almost no human contact.

Its just seems like the cringe lolcow role of the internet, is basically like being the local clownish celebrity that I spent my whole school years being. Its a way to turn the strange weirdness into a commodity. I see folks who are less weird and less comedic getting audiences of millions. Maybe I could do it. Although I have the flaw of speaking in a way thats so cringey its boring, rather than so cringey its hilarious. But it just seems like my old weirdo class clown cartooning but with an audience of millions. Maybe it was my calling.

And then some of these guys actually make money on this shit through youtube ads and patreon, being a cringe is literally their full time career.
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Would society be better if becoming a wizard were encouraged? If virginity were socially accepted and encouraged, and sex were seen by everyone as gross and animalistic, would our world become better, more free of desire?
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Feelings are a disease

Wizards do not naturally produce feelings. We are thinkers. Feelings are a psychic overlay that falls on us by an outside source. The Demiurge. They are inconsistent, you can have multiple feelings for the same event. Antidepressants neuter feelings at the expense of the thinking function. They make you dumber. As science progresses, we shall reach our true forms as pure thinkers. I for one can't wait for the day that humans are robots with organic components for organic functions.
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Wizardly Hygiene

Just wondering how other wizards/apprentices feel in regards to hygiene. I'm NEET and my bathing is inconsistent, nowadays I'll sometimes go 2-3 days without a bath for every bath I take, but this used to be much worse. I would go a week plus without one consistently, and I think my worst stint was 2 months without bathing. I also used to have unkempt long hair and it was matted and tangled. I floss every day and brush occasionally, I'm actually terrified of the dentist and so I treat my teeth a bit better than the rest of my body

All things considered my hygiene isn't too bad, though I currently have dandruff, which is annoying and makes it hard for me to feel truly clean.
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no talent

no fucking talent fucking wizard only fucking magic fucking suck at everything god damn it everything is so fucking boring and gay and giga queer cant draw cant do anything fuck why is everything so gay and boring
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Wikipedia Articles

Let's have another one of these. Share interesting Wikipedia articles you've come across. Let's keep reading everything about the world to keep the world (and boredom) at bay. A small description about what you're posting is nice but not necessary.
Here's some to begin with:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmecs - Earliest known major civilization in Mesoamerica

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_D%C3%B3zsa - Man-at-arms from Transylvania, Kingdom of Hungary who led a peasants' revolt against the kingdom's landed nobility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis - Saint who's always portrayed holding his decapitated head.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montague_Summers - Clergyman who authored works about the occult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyakumonogatari_Kaidankai - Interesting parlor game involving samurais and ghost stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girolamo_Segato - Man behind a lost study on petrification of cadavers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_chain_of_being - Interesting theological concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus-eaters - A whole race of people sleeping in peaceful apathy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sworn_Book_of_Honorius - Medieval Grimoire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aergia - Goddess of NEETS and Hikis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acedia - a state of listlessness or torpor, of not caring or not being concerned with one's position or condition in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice - Good article, title says it all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzompantli - a type of wooden rack or palisade used for the public display of human skulls.
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What are your realistic predictions for society in the next decade or so?

Will post mine below, and would appreciate any feedback or criticism.
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The Demiurge


Can we discuss this figure? Do you believe he's real? Do you see him as a symbolic depiction or metaphor of humanity's doomed existence and suffering?

I don't know if such a being exists but the more I learn about the material realm and all we know so far about physics, it really seems that the entire material universe has suffering as a default feature on every sentient being. Evil and destruction is easier to do and more difficult to fix or reverse, even the smallest bacteria's life is defined by killing or being killed (or harming or being harmed) in some way
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Free Will

Do you believe that free will exists? I personally suspect that the answer is no, but I believe that the definitive answer must lie in the unsolved problem of consciousness.
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Ordering things online

Does anyone on here order things online? Does anyone use amazon? I always wanted to try an Amazon gift card online but never got around to it.
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Kohlchan is kill?

I haven't been there in at least a week because the cumbrains exceeded my tolerance level. Now the whole thing redirects to a buzzfeed article about a shooting in Northwest Turkey.

It wasn't a great place, but with every passing year it feels like more and more of the wild internet is disappearing or degenerating.
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Forced Asexuality

Have any of you guys tried "forcing" yourself to become asexual? People on quora (https://www.quora.com/Can-you-become-asexual-by-trying) say that you're born asexual, just like you're born gay, lesbian, trans etc. and that you can't make yourself change your sexuality by you power of will.they also say that being asexual is a hassle in this oversexualised society, but wizards prefer a solitary lifestyle away from society, so it's not a problem for us, right?
The reason I'm asking is because I tried to do just that for the past few years. At first, anything that looked like a succubus or her certain body part would make me hard. But after reading some biology books, watching a few documentaries and through my sheer power of will I successfully managed to make myself not attracted to succubus boobs, 3d and 2d. They don't evoke any kind of response from me anymore, so it's definitely possible to "change" your sexuality and what you're attracted to. I still feel attraction to ass and wide hips and I'm working on that. If any of you guys successfully managed to stop being attracted to ass, please let me know how you did it.
Wouldn't it be nice to not feel any sexual attraction to succubi at all?
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wiz - Catalog

Hi, just wanted to mention, I loved this blog post.
It was inspiring. Keep on posting!
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My fantasy dreamlife as a Medieval Scholastic theologian

We've had a lot of discussions about Monks, and I certainly understand the appeal of being physically separated from the normie world in an isolated group-hermit community of fellow volcel men. But I'm not sure if I'm suited for the laboring aspects of it, picking potatoes. And so while I started out with monks as my ideal community, I started looking into the more academic side. It was actually right here on Wizchan, in one of the Monk threads, were a Wiz in Missouri mentioned there was a monastery very near him. And then I did some research on it and found out it was also a Seminary. And that seemed like the idea for me, combining Benedictine community with academic scholarship. And so I realized I was more interested in the scholastic aspect. So I started looking into other orders like Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits.

As a teen I used to have very creative fantasies about my future adult life. They were so detailed, that it would have been almost a disappointment if they came true, a deja vu, rerun. Now that I'm an adult, most of my fantasies are about redoing life right. Although even with a magic time machine, it seems like every turn is a wrong one. I get into a lot of detail with my schizoid couldabeen watif fantasies. Even looking up Archive.org pages from 2006 of colleges I could have went to.

Lately my main fantasy has been over being a scholastic professor of medieval metaphysics. My main interests are philosophy and history. And some of my watifs revolve around being a high school history teacher or college philosophy professor. Getting paid to talk about my favorite subject is awesome. But babysitting hormonal American teenagers is hell for even normies. And a larger problem of devoting my life to secular philosophy, is I study the ontology of Hegel or Heidegger just saying Being Being Being all day. And then at 70 I wonder what the point of it all was. As a Scholastic saying God God God all day, at least there is a point.

In my fantasy, in 9th grade just when I was getting into Calvin, Cromwell, Charlemagne, I instead get into St. Benedict as the ideal community. And read everything I can on Monks and the other Catholic orders. I remember reading HG Well's Outline of History, and being inspired by his description of Ignatius of the Jesuits. How he had been a soldier, but then seen the light, and devoted this military virtues to instead serving God as a volcel. So then I convert to Catholicism in college, go to this college near me that specializes in Continental Philosophy, get my BA and Phd. Become a Jesuit or Dominican. Devote myself to the abstractions of medieval ontology. With any ideology or worldview, with me it starts with the praxis of the ideal community, but I quickly float upward to the most abstract metaphysics. Its the same categories I study in modern secular philosophy but with medieval scholastic volcels. Essence-Existence, Form-Content, Abstract-Concrete, Potentiality-Actuality, Cause-Effect, Substance-Accident, Quantity-Quality, Universal-Particular, One-Many.

Just living among my volcel brotherhood of Dominicans, reading and writing, getting into the intricacies of medieval metaphysics. Henry of Ghent and Duns Scotus being my companions and arguments, instead of this modern world. I could be living in 1300 and it wouldn't make a difference, because I'm just pure mind. The words on paper have more reality than the world around me. Yes this was the life I was meant for. I want to be a volcel. I held volcel values a decade before I found Wizchan. But I don't know how to live within the world with my values or to find a community of values outside the normie mainstream. I was between a rock and a hard place. Can't live by my values, can't live by their values, can't live at all. If only I had become a medieval scholastic. Thats what I was meant to be. Aspects of the Catholic Church were a stumbling block to me. But what do I know about right and wrong? The only morality is celibacy, and the RCC is the sole volcel institution of the West. Thats the only ethics I needed. And from the volcel praxis to the Thomist ontology. Logic-chopping how many angels can dance on a pin. So removed from this darwinian universe. Just talking to God about metaphysics all day.
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Wiztown Wiz Neighborhood

I don't think the Wiz Commune will ever happen as it involves a social community-building and pooling of resources and living in close proximity that most Wizs probably aren't suited for.

A more realistic idea could be of building a Wiz neighborhood, street, even apartment block.

We just pick one small town in the USA and the EU and make it our Wiz HQ that all Wizards aspire to move to. Since most Wizs live our lives on the internet, location in the middle of nowhere doesn't really matter.

Wiztown USA

Wizburg, EU
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Small town heroes

Who are your heroes? My heroes are the kind-hearted souls who are passionate with their modest hobbies and live a life of eternal adolescence. Think the guy who lives for anime or the collector or the toy train enthusiast. And who are so genuine gentle and not of this world that they are seen as fossils to the outside world.

Take this gentleman for example. Imagine if all those cds were ps1 games. He could ramble for 15 minutes minimum on all the great memories he had in each, the pros, cons, takeaways and nostalgia of each. Like a dedicated coffee drinker, he knows his stuff and dedicates his existence to it. And oblivious or defiant to the social pressure of groidbreeders, he proudly wears his traditional japanese kimono with pride. These heroes in the shadows are too invested in their own beautiful little inner worlds for you to take notice of them, unless you seek them out, perhaps he visits his local comic book store twice a week or attends a humble midwestern convention once a year. Perhaps you'll catch a glimpse of him picking up a pizza at 11pm in anticipation for a long night of gaming. These small town heroes are part The Big Lebowski, but that character was a bit too tryhard and social and ungenuine. These guys don't need to put on an act to go outside, they are as genuine as can be and make no excuses over preferring a night of pizza and JRPG playthroughs than going out and peacocking and attempting to breed. I salute all these small town heroes, wizard or not, who give hope to us all and make all of our existence a little less darwinian.
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I hate Eeryone and wish i was dead

Do you feel the same? I want to kill myself everyday, but because I don't have the means to do so in a relatively painless peaceful way, i'm stuck in this nightmare for the long run I guess.

I've been an isolated neet since I dropped out of school in the 6th grade. im now 31 and have nothing left in me to continue.

I just wanted to say I hate humanity with a passion to other people who might have had the same life as me. I hope the normie Muggles get taken out by an asteroid soon.

good day, and let the tendies flow.
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Hellfire is a comin'

Many of you despair at the state of the world and modern consumerism society, but I am here to tell you not to fear because the world that you hate so much is about to end.

The truth is that the data coming back very recently, within the past few years or so has confirmed what climate scientists feared when we first found that methane levels were rapidly rising with no discernible cause: the arctic sea ice is melting and releasing trapped methane into the atmosphere.

Now if you don't know what that means, basically methane is like this evil carbon dioxide you hear so much about except a hundred times worse in terms of the amount of global warming it will cause. As the ice melts, two things start to happen that will result in a runaway rapid warming effect that will completely destroy the current peace and cause billions of deaths including the extinction of other species besides humans. The first is that the physical presence of the ice over a large area in the arctic acts like a kind of reflective mirror that helps reflect some of the energy coming in from the sun. With that melted, that light no longer gets reflected and instead absorbs onto the surface somewhere and radiates heat into the atmosphere. The second thing is that pockets of methane that are trapped in the ice shelf will release into the atmosphere. Both ice on land and in the sea contains large amounts of methane and any instability in that ice is game over and the ice has been destabilized. The last time we had a mass extinction, an event where over 95% of all species on earth went extinct, the cause was because of rapid increases in methane from the arctic ice melting. We're already seeing mass extinction happen with estimates of the current rate of extinction at about 1000 times higher than usual.

Most of our climate change models predicted a slow and steady linear increase in temperatures, but that's not what the data show is happening at all. The effects appeared slow and linear for a while, but now we're seeing a sudden acceleration that is corresponding to an exponential increase, not a linear increase in atmospheric methane levels that has been happening for over 10 years now. We fucked up. It's too late now to ever prevent large scale social collapse. There will be famine and drought and war, billions displaced and starving. No doubt there will be a revolution and the current order will fall.

Here is a good paper about this by a scientist who has dedicated his life to studying this issue. I encourage all of you to read it: https://www.lifeworth.com/deepadaptation.pdf

Now what does this mean for the depressed wizard who hates the current world? For me it means that there is hope that you can survive to see a new social order arise out of the ashes of our current society. Assuming you survive anyway. You can safely ignore the concerns of normies now knowing that they are in denial and are just wasting time while they still can. Any plans for the future need to be made with the knowledge that the future will be on fire and the things you rely on society for like food will no longer be guaranteed which makes the concerns of normies trivial and insignificant. We have to figure out how to live in a sustainable way like our ancestors did, assuming that's still possible in the new climate. Do not lose hope wizards, this era of bullshit wageslavery is almost at an end.
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How do you stay mentally healthy while having no friends or really anyone to talk to?

Solitary confinement is a punishment for a reason. Yet do not advise me to talk to people, I won't do it. I can't decide which is worse, becoming mentally ill or enduring another's company. Of course, if I could be alone and retain my sanity it would be great. But is it possible? If so, how?
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Nootropics, marketing hype or life changing drugs?

So recently I've been looking into nootropics, I've never held a job and I'm a HS drop out, so I really hope this is my saving grace. I am hoping they help me study something productive like programming so I can actually achieve something.

Have any of you tried any nootropics and how well did they work?
R: 60 / I: 8
Is it possible to be happy without social contact of any kind(including posting on 4chan or wizardchan) as a human being (social animal)?

i think the real enlightenment would be to live happily and content without anybody. if you can do this without becoming mentally ill or depressed, you're a god among men

i am socially isolated but i still have wizchan or 4chan so i am not completely socially isolated. i have enough social contact to prevent me from losing my mind
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Internet ruined my life

I came to this realization very recently.

I'm literally getting withdrawals from not having internet and even dreaming about them, but I know it's for my own good.
I've played games virtually every single day for over twenty years now, and they've ruined many aspects of my life.
Internet pretty much ruined my life. I have no attention span anymore for anything unless I'm drunk.
Apart from that: the internet offers way too much information and sites like this is mostly negativity. It drains energy.
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Money money money

I’ve realized that If I would have enough money I wouldn’t even leave my apparent, bc job is the main and only reason why I do that. I also think the situation is very humiliating, so I have started to think how to make dissent income without investing to much time in it.
I Just kind of what to share my thoughts about it, and get some tips/feedback.
1. I play a lottery. Yes, I know this is dumb, but it only takes 10$ a week and gives me a small chance to quit the damn circle.
2. I invest in dividend stocks and bonds. Those are more or less low risk investments and you build cash flow with them over time. The only problem is I need a million to retire instantly, and it will take a long time. I use two apps for that. One is for stocks only and has no fees. The other one has access to bounds and let’s you buy expensive stocks partially. They charge you a dollar a monthly though.
3. I thought about landing clubs, but haven’t tried them yet.
4. I also thought about buying some collectibles and selling them after they grow in price. That seems like a good way to multiply your money if you know what you are doing.
5. The other thought was to create a bitcoin pull by hacking into people’s computers and cut the costs of mining down to 0. But that requires some knowledge, and I am not quite sure how profitable it would be.
So please share if you have any experience with any of it, or any other easy income ideas. Thanks.
R: 10 / I: 0

Death of Parents or Other Relatives

Can we have a thread where we discuss the death of our parents or other significant relatives? Please make a post in this thread about your experience dealing with the death of a parent or other relative. What advice do you have for other wizards? How did you handle things like funeral arrangements, sorting things out with other family, finances, inheritance, housing, nursing homes, hospice care, insurance, or emotional issues. How did your other family members handle any of these things?

I'm not dealing with this yet but my parents are old and unhealthy. I know I need to plan ahead. I'm autistic and I can't stand when unexpected things happen, so I need to game out various scenarios in my mind before they happen. It is likely that my father will perish first and that my mother will eventually need some sort of nursing home.

I'm very interested in hearing the experiences of other wizards relating to this topic. I'd imagine that there are others here who are interested as well.
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Hajime Ueda

I want to talk about Hajime Ueda's works, even though he hasn't made a whole lot and has basically disappeared nearly ten years ago, he made a huge impact on me. He drew two pieces of manga:

- Q-ko Chan

What gets me is not the art style, but rather the how insanely detached his worlds are. Everyone in his manga says and does things this that would not happen in normie society AT ALL. For example, when Naota's friends (again, in Hajime Ueda's work in the manga) see his horns, instead of freaking out, they begin picking on him and drawing faces on them. Or Naota has his life flash before his eyes because he thinks he's going to die and he's completely fucking disinterested after his own demise. Whenever there's a "family around the table" moment it's done in the most fucked up way, with everyone acting in ways to fuck up a kid in the largest possible ways ("I just wanted to make models" if you remember the scene). Or how much of a "Fuck this place" look Naota has before he ditches school. I mean, I can't think of a more wizardly depiction of things.

If it's not a bother, I'd like to discuss a few more clippings from his manga that have really stuck with me, even though I struggle to say why beyond "I still remember them decades later." Something that bugs me is how, and I can't believe I'm saying this since I usually find this so snobbish when others say it, but how important the translations are. For example, in Q-ko chan, this lieutenant shows up at this mother's house, and threatens to beat the shit out of this kid, and the kid gets this dead look in his eyes to which the lieutenant thinks, "Huh, this kid must be used to this, that's no fun" (speaking of which, there are a lot of scenes in all of Hajime's works where the protagonist has this dead-eyes-while-leaning-on-a-wall-and-breathing-through-their-mouth look, and every single one is, I feel, so easy to sympathize with), but they don't have this at all in other translation. Or a scene Naota mentions how schools protects him from the perverts (in other translations they say "lunatics"). Or Haruko convinces Naota to skip school, and notes how you haven't really learned a city until you've played hooky.

The attached pic is one that's stuck with me, I'll post another in a moment. I've posted both of them quite frequently on this board…

I don't know what happened to Hajime, but I miss his works.
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Any fellow wizards from Argentina? How do you cope with living in this hellhole?

Any other discussion about wizards around the world welcome too
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how can someone be so sophisticated? If i ever tried writing something like notes from underground it would come off as whiny and melodramatic. I think it was due to his time being in the renaissance that he could articulate what was on his mind. is there any writer like this guy?
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Anyone else feel tired and dont like to take a shower? I just feel like I could use the time spent taking a shower into better use. I just want to do something else other than to take a shower. I find it boring and hard to sift through the whole process that I just wish that showers would take less than a second to finish.

Anyone else feel the same way?
R: 32 / I: 5

Real Life Truman Show

Does anyone else feel like they're living in a world-sized play set? A lot of events in my life, the way they play out, follow each other and "coincide" simply makes no sense. Unless there really is a cosmic deity, or a number of them, simply being fond of throwing all sorts of hurdles before me and tormenting my mind for laughs.
And there's no escape, no matter what I do. I could stay at home, and then all the sinister thoughts begin creeping inside my mind. Should I leave it, the world immediately changes to mess with whatever plans, however little, I have.
It sounds like schizo ramblings, but I swear it's all too real and suspicious to not entertain such thoughts.
R: 21 / I: 1

Volunteering with senior citizens

Way back when I was in middle school and we had to do volunteering, the principal suggested given my interest in WW2, I might like volunteering at the senior center. I was sour on it at the time, but actually it makes a lot of sense.

I've found that I relate to older people more, maybe its because I'm lost in the past and more interested in their century than our own. Or maybe because I'm a person of the mind not body, I relate to people whose physical side has worn itself out.

They are the only ones still alive who care about my aspie interests, the books and magazines I want to read at the library are only checked out by seniors.

I've never went to any events specifically for seniors, but I find that everything that I show up for from the Church to activism to discussion groups are always filled with older people, with not just me, but even my dads' age being the youngest one there.

But lately there hasn't been much going on in my town. And I was thinking of volunteering at the senior center. Give me something to do. Do a good deed. And maybe get a little human interaction in a non-normie way.
R: 60 / I: 7

Legal ways to get energy?

I feel so tired all the time. No matter how much sleep I get or how regular my sleep schedule is. Yes I checked for sleep apnea and any kind of deficiencies.

Coffee gives me nausea. Caffeine pills just make me anxious. I asked my doctor for Modafinil but he told me that he can only prescribe it if I literally fall asleep uncontrollably. I hope you understand that I don't know any people and I also don't feel like dealing with sketchy people online.

So what legal methods are there to make yourself more awake?
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Goodbye NEET life

About to get a call back for my first "real" job, it's IT tech support.
While not excited about it, it's better than a supermarket and at least it's something I'm somewhat interested in. I happen to know they run debian servers, so hopefully I can work my way up to be a comfy sysadmin or something.
Wish me luck wizzies, truly going to miss being a NEET and I hope I never sperg at work or something like that.
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An Interesting Podcast

Hello wizzies,

I stumbled upon an interesting podcast that I think you would also find enjoyable. A sample episode which might generate broad interest is linked here:

The podcast is about a ~50 year old man's experiences with aspergers. I myself have debilitating ASD so I found SOME aspects of his stories relatable. More importantly, I have a very strong academic interest in autism. I know in not the only autistic person here. In any case though, his commentary on social phenomena I think many of you would find interesting or relatable.

All the episodes can be found here:http://aspiecast.libsyn.com/

Disclaimer: the host is a hypersocial normalfag and not at all wizardly. So let's not argue about wizlam please. Personally I think he's an idiot in many respects and has poor character as a person.

There is an Elliot Rodger episode, for the wizkids who give a shit about that (I personally don't).
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the wizard beard

Wizards are always despicted with huge beards in media. Anyone here has experience growing one?

I live in a major city that receives a large amount of tourists all year around. These people don't have any shame and will stop anyone on their tracks to ask how to reach some tourist spot. I'd like to evade these encounters and I thought a wiz beard might keep them away.

Problem is that I'm disgusted by filthiness, a beard is another thing to take care of, and since it's so close to the mouth, I'm guessing it gets dirty easily.
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Internet is an MMO?

Anyone else thought of the internet as just this one big MMO? It’s all just a game?
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NEETbux, Autismbux, Gibs etc.

Does anyone here in the USA have food, housing and money provided to them by the government due to a successful disability claim?

How much do you get per month, and what is the standard of living like? Also, what are the financial requirements, such as maximum assets allowed, or required attempts to gain employment?

I'm sure I could get on disability with a good lawyer, but I am reluctant to do so yet due to the time and money required to prove I have autism and drag it through court, and am worried that they'll just put me in a shithole apartment in a shithole neighborhood, can't have more then $2000 saved and only afford shit quality food. If that's the case then I'd just stay with my parents and ride it out 'till the wheels fall off.
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I need to vent

I'm almost 24 but can only like succubi 8 to 13 . I correctly see this as a problem and I thus asked for help:my doctor will give me bupropion
Is it true that this will make me suicidal?he said it will help stop obsession over children
Please help me,I don't want to become a child-linguiere catalog collector
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Can psychiatrist know everything about from conversation with me?

Look, I ve never been to psychiatrist neither psychologist. But I know that something wrong with me, I know for sure that I had strong social phobia for many years and perhaps I may have aspergers syndrome and some kind of neurosis? Also I m introverted male. I ve never had any friend.

I wonder if I go to psychiatrist and I wont be quite honest to him. What would happen?

Would he find out that I m laying even if I would say logical things to him, or he wouldnt find out it?
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Military thread

What's your opinion on serving in the military? I know there's been some military wizards on here before, so I guess I was curious about your experiences if you have had any. Though there's a lot of 3rd world wizards who browse here, I guess this is obviously geared towards experiences in the western militaries. Or we could just have a general /mil/ thread for discussing topics and stuff.
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Any wizzies here exercise? Whether calisthenics, weightlifting, cardiovascular, or other. Share the reasons why you do/don't exercise, what you do, etc..

I tend to agree with Socrates: “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”.
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are there any fellow neets who are thinking about becoming criminal? who wants to become powerful, self-sufficient, and self-controlling? Sadly, I'm too weak to go down thsi road by myself, and would like to have someone I can lean on, but im friendless.
Would at least like to have a friend who considers himself a bit immoral (one who might not have the values of a normie).
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people over 20, how do you still manage to enjoy imageboards when more than 90% of the population is obviously underage or just slightly above the threshold? do you even realize that you're trying to have a discourse about life with people who never had to deal with anything more complicated than math homework? are there actually any people here over 20 who enjoy staying here because you can relate to what is being said here and other wizards and not because it's just habit for you and you feel like you have nowhere else to go?
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Stoa Thread

Stoicism is a school of Philosophy with roots in ancient Greece. It is believed that its founder, Zeno of Citium, came to invent it after a unfortunate shipwreck turned him from a prosperous merchant into a very poor man. The story tells that after this unlucky event Zeno became an assiduous reader of the life of Socrates, and that instructed by the example of the old Greek philosopher he himself came to make philosophy on his own and teach it at the Stoa Poikile, a famous building of the city of Athens - hence the name of the school.

Sotoicism focused on the study of Logic, Metaphysics and Ethics. But, in contrast to academic philosophy how we know nowadays, they were only interested in abstract reasoning because they believed that their findings should resonate in behavior,i.e, in what means to live a good life. Having this in mind, stoics often stressed the importance of self-control, discipline and clarity of thinking: virtues that could lead someone to attain what they called atharaxia, which means "apathy", "tranquility", a state of non-perturbation in the psyché.

Stoicism became so influential that even among ancient Romans it was often practiced. Amongst the well-known roman stoics are the slave Epictetus, Nero's preceptor Seneca, and the successful emperor Marcus Aurelius. All of them have famous writings on the practice of stoa, from somewhat different practical standing points, as you can infer by their positions in Roman society.

I highly recommend to fellow wizards the hearing of this audio book from Epictetus Enchiridion. It has good advice indeed to deal with various occasions that can put us off in daily life. Sometimes difficult to attain, but the idea is not to become an ancient philosopher from day to night.
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dads, siblings' dads, stepdads, maternal boyfriends

I would like to know my fellows' experience with dealing with these categories of people in your life. I've had encounters with all 4 (separate individuals) at various times in my life and found them upsetting in various ways. They've all let me down. I've never felt loved by any of them. I feel like I'm the inherent target of all of their hatred, that they all wish I was dead. I'm angry at my mother for her poor choices and not being choosier and holding higher standards. I listed in them in order of encounter. Each is more awkward than the last. Each is less sane and stable than the last. Each is more violent than the last. Each is more NPCish than the last. I feel like I get pulled into conflicts, manipulated, used as a buffer, when as the person who choose to bring them into our life, my mom should be the buffer and should not be obligating me to interact with them.
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Works of art make rules; rules do not make works of art.

adding some text for character limit
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I hate the premise of memes

I understand that expressing one's disdain for memes is perhaps a highly peculiar thing to be doing on somewhere like an imageboard, which is completely antithetical to the whole experience, but hear me out for a second. You'd most definitely see a greater variety of thought provoking or genuinely funny memes (more OC too) thereby making the signal to noise ratio relatively high. But, in my view atleast, this has led to an incubation of a progressively elitist culture in various parts of the internet. This whole notion of "I know this funi imag and you dont!!" is propagated everywhere, from imageboards to fucking reddit. It's no longer a form of "art" like it used to be (in the sense that you could have a single image sum up an incredibly complex societal issue), but rather an "oopsie" (or whatever kids call it these days) that some faggot with millions of subscribers on youtube made (pewdiepie, however good a person he may be, is a perfect exemplification of this). More importantly, its the newest form of social signalling, and its prevalent absolutely everywhere on the internet, the blatantly contrarian or edgy for the sake of being edgy memes given the most priority.

It's most akin to the downfall of universities and academia as a whole. 30-40 years ago, universities truly were a place where one could educate themselves and feel comfortable in doing so in any school. Now it's all about where specifically you went, what sort of degrees you were doing (whether you enjoy it or not is irrelevant), etc. It's only purpose really is limited to social signalling now. If you want to educate yourself, you can do so off the internet very easily (like that dude who taught himself the MIT Computer Science & EE course in a year off the internet, OSSU, et al).
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High reliability Autism test

Anyone else never officially diagnosed with autism? Your RMET score is supposedly a strong predictor of autism. I thought most questions felt impossible but still didn't do as bad as I thought.

Also post your scores if you like.
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>tfw wizchan doesnt have ads
>tfw wizchan doesnt have premium accounts
>tfw wizchan doesnt have captcha
>tfw wizchan doesnt have normies
>tfw wizchan doesnt have succs
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Kessler Syndrome

As satellites in space smash into each other, debris is created. That debris collides creating tinier debris. The more shit we launch up into space, the more debris we create. The more shit we abandon up there, the years, no, decades of work, left up there like trash thrown to the wayside, the more debris we put up there. One day all of this debris will culminate into a layer of sand sized debris in our orbit, covering our planet, preventing any further launches. No GPS, no satellite based internet or TV, nothing. Darkness. Anything we put up there will be shredded and apart of the blob we have created. Our ingenuity is our undoing. Our haste will kill us all. The space race doomed us.

We should have been safer.
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Hello wizchan, I have a visit with the state doctor in a few hours and I'm rather nervous about messing this up. I followed Uncle Remus guide last year, got myself admitted and I'm now diagnosed with schizophrenia and severe anxiety. It took awhile but now the fated appointment is here, this will decide if I'm free from work. How can I perfectly mimic a schizophrenic person at this interview?

- don't shake hands
- stare at the wall
- act very dumb, sluggish replies

Is there any other thing I should do? Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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What does Nofap and Super AI have in common?

A lot of Wizards hold to an EvoPsych, Sociobiological, Darwinian worldview. But then where does that leave us as Wizard virgins? The whole goal and point of this viewpoint is sexual reproduction.

Sexual pleasure is the highest reward circuitry of the mammal, theres no point denying it. But these brains weren't meant to cope with the challenge of streaming HD VR porn. And thats were NoFap comes in. Where you see all these normie and potential normie men. Men with wives and gfs. Who give all that up because porn is so much better than the reality. And they are so torn up about it. Because they should like 3d reality meatspace more, but their brains don't.

So in that sense we as Wizards can admit that sexual pleasure is the cookie jar reward of evolution, but we stole it without doing our homework first.

What does this have to do with Super AI? Because in the very very distant future, long past the Terminator Singularity stage, when Super AI has processed every atom in the universe. It will all serve one utilitarian function. To maximize the pleasure of a gazillion simulated minds. Theres no need for a story or history to get mind to orgasm. Just skip all that to the moment of pleasure and make it eternal, a gazillion times over. And that is what the universe will be. The final fulfillment of the utilitarian calculus. The maximization of pleasure without pain.

So to fap to HD porn is to benefit from the primitive reward circuitry of evolution, but it is also to disconnect the pleasure from story and effort and suffering and to see to the future of the universe of Super AI and the Orgasmium (also known as hedonium)


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someone give me a quick rundown on wizardly.fun
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Leaving the Internet

Internet browsing has been an enormously important part of my life. From my young teenage years through to my late 20s. I have spent a tremendous amount of time browsing all kinds of forums and archives. For me it was a great way to learn about the world, and these creatures called humans that inhabit it, from the safety of my room. Especially as someone with autism, reading countless anecdotes of human behavior has been valuable.

As I approach 30 though, in recent years I am finding myself growing disinterested in forums and discussion boards. Wizchan and some other obscure topic-specific forums are the only places I visit these days, and those visits are becoming more infrequent. Not to sound too romantic about it, but I feel like I'm in the "twilight years" of my internet browsing career. Although this place is special to me, if this trend persists then I may eventually stop visiting here as well. With this in the back of my mind I am savouring my time here. I'm savouring it because I fear that as I continue to age I will no longer browse here due to the lack of novelty and/or not being able to relate to the (on average) younger userbase.

Can anyone else relate to this feeling?

One of the things I treasure most about this place is that the attitudes here align with my own value system. It is a truly wonderful feeling to have your world view validated. There is no way I could ever find such validation in meatspace. To be told (indirectly/abstractly) that there is nothing wrong with me and that I'm fine the way I am. That is precious to me.

I don't know where I'm going with this but I just wonder how ephemeral this subculture is. Will it somehow disappear or will I eventually leave on my own accord before that happens?

What is life like once one outgrows the internet?

To be clear when I mention internet use here I'm referring to lurking in forums and discussion boards and the like. Not using the internet as a utility. Certainly I have many technical interests and the internet is a tool for that, but what I'm referring to in this post is distinct from utilitarian internet use.

Topics similar to this have been discussed here in the past so I apologise if this is a repetitious post.
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disability wiz

I have depression and PTSD, about 2 years ago I was admitted into a psych hospital after a suicide attempt.

Now my parents are trying to get me to apply for disability, though I'm not sure how I could possibly go about doing that?

What are my chances of actually being given disability?
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Body odor

Do any of you have BO issues? I remember in HS everyone (mostly teachers tho) complained about my BO despite showering every morning and using deoderant. I think that's why I became a socially isolated neurotic mess.
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article about (males) not having sex becoming more common

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The corporate ass-kissing normalfags will be well-rewarded for their fight against all efforts to prevent the destruction of the biosphere. It's hilarious to me how upset people get about the mere insinuation that we need to stop fucking over nature and ourselves. Just one of many examples of normalfags shooting themselves in the foot in order to deny reality and feel like the world is safe and just and that nothing they do is ever wrong.
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is there any wizard who had an eye surgery? I have astigmat and have peoblem with farsight and want my eyes burned with laser to get rid of glasses. I read some people reported that their eyes reversed the process and ended up having worse eyesight than they had, only now with thinned layer due to laser threatment.

sorry for my english.
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Is paying attention the root of satisfaction?

Here's an experience everyone here has had:
distractedly watch a "good" movie - don't enjoy yourself
attentively watch a "bad" movie - enjoy yourself
This is extremely apparent when you watch a movie you didn't enjoy the first time while paying closer attention.

It seems anything that's satisfying is something you pay attention to. What is something that's satisfying that you don't focus on?

The question then becomes: is it possible to exploit this to our advantage? If we hyper-focus on our meaningless boring jobs, do they suddenly become satisfying? Is the goal in life to just have a clear mind about everything?

Another experience everyone has had:
thinking about past mistakes, embarrassing moments, etc.
worrying about future failures, pessimism, thinking about worst outcomes, etc.

If you analyze any given moment of your life it's not that bad. Almost all negative feelings come from thought and not focus.

Anyone reading this thinking that their life is shit right now, think about your current status, emphasis on current. Why is your life bad right now? Literally right now reading this post. Why is it bad? I can guarantee it's almost exclusively going to be about past / future thoughts. So your life isn't actually bad in the literal present.

I'd like for people to critique this base idea. I'd rather not talk about meditation specifically in this thread, I want to keep it more general. Do you agree with me or not?
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Psychology Thread INTJ Master Race

Most therapists are delusional normans, too trapped in their own complexes to help us. I google different forms of therapy and try them on myself. Most don't work, but they're fun.

4/5 Dream journal
I've done dream journaling and dream analysis to interpret my unconscious desires and fears.
At lest one dream a week tells me something new about myself. Most dreams are fluff.

Depth Psych
2/5 Build imaginary world where you imagine different parts of your personality as people and debate them. Most of you already do this without realizing it. Sometimes I get useful insight. Most of the time, my personalities tell me to "work harder" or "go to the gym". They're assholes.

MBTI Myers Briggs 2/5
More or less astrology. Take personality test. Get 4 letters. Different tests give different results. I'm INTJ/P. I used to go hiking every 2 or 3 days, after taking the MBTI, I embraced my INT nature and stayed indoors for a week straight.

CBT 1/5
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy or McTherapy is the second most popular psych scam after big pharma drugs. Suppress your natural emotions and thoughts with positive thoughts. Leave therapy cured. Wait a month for everything surpressed to explode. Go back to therapy. *rubs hands

Mindfulness CBT 2/5
The Whole Foods version of CBT. Mindfulness makes you calmer. Most of your problems are caused by other people (and systems that have not updated to the current world) so just thinking positive won't change the outside world.

What therapies have you tried?
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Is there any point to the universe?

Like does it have any real reason to exist? What really, is its sole reason of being? Without intelligent life, the universe doesn't have a chance in hell to make sense of itself.

Are there any popular theories out there? This is driving me crazy. I just think it's so easy for nonexistence to be the natural state of things, that the existence has to have a cause.
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How do you look back at the early 2000s now? Specifically the years 2001-2006?
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I'm wondering how much of our condition is genetic.

I have an uncle who is clearly a sperg, he doesn't do eye contact, he stims and flaps his hands, he isn't social and ignores his family (except me because he's known me since I was a kid).

Although unlike wizards he is obsessed with programming and hobbyist technology (soldering etc), he has a GitHub at 65 years old and his job is repairing commercial refrigerators. Anyways, do you have any family members who you suspect are wizards?
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Sobriety General

Anyone up for a wizard sobriety support thread?

After innumerable embarrassing incidents caused by my drinking which I can get into later I really want to stop now. I'm five days sober so far. I enjoy alcohol too much as it liberates me from any unpleasant emotion I may have and makes me feel great, so once I start I want to keep going until I black out.

Getting a nice buzz and stopping is impossible for me as I fundamentally dislike the world and being me so I have to push the escape to the furthest it can go everytime. Becoming sober isn't about some self-improvement thing for me and I'm not under the illusion that it could make me happier, I still will most likely will end it all at some point but the not knowing what's going to happen everytime I drink can't go on.

I figured I need to use any resources out there to prevent a relapse from happening again, so I looked into AA or various online support communities but I suspect they're going to be full of normies. Feel free to share what made you decide to become sober from drugs or alcohol, how long you've made it and tips for staying sober.
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Homeless Japan Wiz

I made a couple threads about a year ago on homelessness, drifting, and vagabond traveling. A wiz that homeless traveled through Japan recounted his travels in those threads.

Since then I've not been able to forget your experiences and I've thought about them everyday and have wanted to replicate them. I wonder if you're still around wizzie. Anyway, you might remember how I mentioned that I wanted to follow in your steps. Well, I didn't do it. But I'm starting to plan again, and I think I will do it this year.

Are you still out there Japan wiz?
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What is your opinion about having pets as a wizard? Do you think they help you or do you think they bother you?
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Tell me everything I need to know about night shift security.

I’m a wizard with the works, asocial schizoid beta whatever you want to call it. I don’t like to socialize and I am choosing a night watch job because of it. Tell me everything I need to know so I don’t make a mistake or take the wrong job.
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The All-Embracing Library

Size 177.96GB. I dare to say contains among the best books of their fields and are supposed not to repeat. It is a extremely well ordered collection by topic, and if you compare the size you soon see its value. Topics range from mathematics, physics, psychology, self improvement, survivalism, the best science fiction and fantasy literature, comics, magazines, and more. Magazines takes about 75 GB and there are many youtube videos, documentaries and conferences so you can exclude these if you want to. All books combined takes about 40 GB or so. But i really recommend downloading other stuff too since you can't really find it somewhere else easily. Did I mention is well sorted and contains only the best books?


It has only one seeder left right now. Used to be many more months ago. Would you kindly share this torrent on places like demonoid, piratebay and other imageboards too? That would be good.
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Well tonight is the night guys, I get my wizard status tomorrow. Wish me a happy birthday, maybe. I don't feel happy.

Any fellow wizard here? How do I soften the psychological blow of this meme becoming my waking reality.
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Parents and personal responsibility

I've been thinking about how I blame my parents for my lot in life. And yet at the same time the normie answer would be "you're a grown adult man, stop being a crying snowflake, and take responsibility for your own life".

Its a weird philosophical conundrum how we are individuals with our own personality, character, free will, and yet we are just robotic products of our parents' nature and nurture.

Usually we focus on the genetic determinism aspect of parents. How we are just robots for their selfish genes. But even if we look at the nurture and environmental side. Who does the nurturing? Who picks the socioeconomic environment for us? You look at the schools you go to, the values you are raised with, the quality of the neighborhood, your religion or lack of it. All choices of the parents. So basically all your environmental factors up to at least your teens and maybe beyond are the choice of your parents.

And yet society doesn't look kindly on a 30 year old man who says he can't function because he got dealt a bad hand from his parents.

To me it seems like life is mostly set in the genes. And to the extent there is an environmental influence at all that was also picked by the parents.

I don't relate to normies who are so loyal to their genes, and feel their purpose in life is to spread them. They don't feel like my property. To me it feels like my genes belong to my parents and I don't want to look out for them. My DNA has brought me nothing but misery. I look on my DNA as the enemy.

But of course there are many examples of children very different from their parents, who reject the values of their parents. Good parents with bad kids and vice versa.

Obviously parents can get very angry at their kids, especially when they are NEETing. And its not like they philosophically reflect "I'm just getting angry at my own nature and nurture"
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How would you reset your brain ?
Depressed, tinnitus, eczema, fear of death and obsessions … all appeared fairly at the same time, while a part is for sure due to my genetic predispositions and my poor way of living, I wonder if psychedelics,lucid dreams and such could help me ?

Any thoughts or stories are welcomed, even if it's bro-science, if you have some cool science papers to share or if you think it is useless
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How strong is the immune system?

I am somewhat of a germaphobe but it's also coupled with lack of energy and money. So even thought I want to clean everything thoroughly and regularely I find it too exhausting. But I have yet to get sick (knock on wood) except a cold once in a while.

From time to time there are these articles that talk about how covered in germs everything is. For example about how dirty your keyboard is. I only wipe my keyboard like once in a while with a rubber alcohol cloth. I know I should disassemble it and clean each key but that sounds like a huge pain.

Another article talked about how flushing the toilet sprays germs everywhere. I leave my toothbrush uncovered and I only rinse it quickly before brushing. I saw that there are cases with UV light for toothbrushes but I can't just spend $100 on something like this if I don't know it's absolutely necessary.

I started carrying hand sanitizer but a long time before that I would eat a burger and fries without washing my hands and with no issues.

This make me wonder: have I just been lucky or is the immune system stronger than I thought even though I lead a sedentary lifestyle with a bad diet that doesn't strenghen it?
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New here

Someone recommended this to me on r9k. How do you guys like my stats?

>turned 30

>virgin, never had a girlfriend or come even close
>no education
>just started uni as my last effort at any kind of life
>anxious as hell about starting uni 10 years too late
>see no meaning in my life, haven't enjoyed life in as long as I can remember
>you can't relate to any other human being
>everyone you ever talk to seems like a privileged NPC robot incapable of comprehending where you come from
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Project L.E.E.C.H.

lets extract expenses(and be) comfy heroes.
Im making this thread to discuss online-begging from normies trough gofundme or similar online plattforms.
I personally don't advocate lying in the fund but I honestly think begging may do the trick-
for example"im about to become homeless. Please donate so i can go to a housing proyect"
i've seen many selfish and stupid gofundsme receive 50 or 100 dollars.

Some wizzies live in the third world so every dollar counts!
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Wizards or apprentices still living with your parents, this is our thread.

How's your life situation? Do you have a job yet are unable to move out for some reason? Are you like me and been sitting on that college diploma for a year already trying to dodge the "when are you going to get a job" questions?
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Decisions to make

These are the three likely choices for most wizards if they can no longer be wizards or neets due to whatever circumstances brought upon them, which one do you choose and why? There are exceptions like inheritance, welfare and being rich though.
1: Wageslaving and being forced to interact with normies and living in a cheap, possibly shitty apartment for the rest of your days.
2: Packing up your belongings and living in a van or braving the unknowns and going with what you may or may not know as a homeless person.
Or 3: Suicide, simple as that.
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The Next Ten Billion Years


>Of course the implied comparison with Christianity can only be taken so far. Christians are generally expected to humble themselves before their God, while believers in progress like to imagine that humanity will become God or, as in this case, be able to pat God fondly on the head and say, “That’s my kid.” More broadly, those of my readers who were paying attention last week will notice that the horrible fate that awaits the sinful is simply that nature will be allowed to go her own way, while the salvation awaiting the righteous is more or less the ability to browbeat nature into doing what they think she ought to do—or rather, what Bardi’s hypothesized New Intelligence, whose interests are assumed to be compatible with those of humanity, thinks she ought to do.

>There’s plenty that could be said about the biophobia—the stark shivering dread of life’s normal and healthy ripening toward death—that pervades this kind of thinking, but that’s a subject for another post. Here I’d like to take another path. Once the notions of perpetual progress and imminent apocalypse are seen as industrial society’s traditional folk mythologies, rather than meaningful resources for making predictions about the future, and known details about ecology, evolution, and astrophysics are used in their place to fill out the story, the next ten billion years looks very different from either of Bardi’s scenarios. Here’s my version or, if you will, my vision.

I had recently found out about this story and this blog through obscure forums. Even through the writer of this blog has been indulging in occult bullshit recently, his blogs provides one of the most reasonable and realistic portrayal of the collapse while being grounded on history and reason. This story is also few of the stories that actually understands Cosmicism instead of falling into nihilism and defeatism which is why I found it standing out from other stories with a similar theme.
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The imperative of progress, momentary fashion or human innate quality?

Throughout the vast majority of history, as a species we have simply existed like other animals. Eat, breed, survive. Norma. Then came religion and philosophy, which dictated how to live. It regulated social relations and explained the unexplained, but it was still about survival.

However, somewhere at the end of the Middle Ages a different approach to improvement began to emerge in Western Europe. Not to survive, but to improve, to check. Change for the sake of change, not necessarily. This new way of thinking developed slowly and exploded with all its might in the 19th century. Eccentric people, inventors, crazy people discovering something became "pop stars". Inventing and discovering became fashionable. This lasted until the middle of the 20th century and became commonplace.

In my opinion, inventiveness is not fashionable nowadays but only desirable to satisfy consumers, so in part we return to thinking from before this revolution only at a different level. We expect that there will be inventions, but the people who design them are not famous, and these are just another anonymous work that we do not worship but demand.
Admittedly, there are universities, pop culture productions promoting slogans: "all the time forward", "don't give up", "it's up to you", "you make your way", but how many people listen to them?
There is no longer such pressure on these slogans and I am afraid that we are entering another period of stagnation, so much so that at a higher level of development, which in turn is more difficult to maintain in the case of "misfortune".

What do you think about the present imperative of the progress that our civilization has made. Why was it possible to create it? What do you see its origins in? Is it really burning itself out or has it just changed its form? And if not, how far will we go with the fumes?
Or do you think that it is a feature of our species and we were condemned to technical development?
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Post your current worldview…

1. There is no free will anyway.
2. There is no hope to survive for a lot time (anti-aging is a meme).
3. It's really hard to get a career or a good job now, still no confidence to keep own job position in the future (even if you are skilled).

So, I just live own life each day and I don't care about anything. No ambitions, no wife\children. I play games, watch movies, code some stuff, drink, live as I want.

What is about your worldview?
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How do you get rid of social needs?

Part of the reason why I have avoided real life social interaction is my disdain for how people seek validation and acceptance from each other. They bully, brownnose, backstab, and make a whole circus performance to get other people to acknowledge them. I hate that and I want to be free from that so I stay away from them, social validation is a weakness that'll make you suffer when you don't have it and make you a jester slave in fervent pursuit of it in stead of something more meaningful. However, my natural social instinct always bring me to an alternative form of social groups, anime subculture, meme subculture, and now wizchan. But even that is starting to bother me. Even on wizcan there are many qualities of real life interaction that repulse me, the scramble for hierarchy, validation, and ego when neet wizards, wageslave wizards, uni wizards, political wizards, nihilist wizards, religious wizards, marginally social wizards, happy wizards, suffering wizards all throw their shit at each other in a war of supremacy. Even if you can get pass that and establish yourself as someone who truly belongs and feel connected to the site, all you have done is to give yourself a dependence. The website will be gone one day, it may change just like how old wizardchan allowed crabs, or maybe it is you who will change. And when that happen what will you do with your need for validation, are you going to look for another place, struggle and fight to worm yourself in, and repeat the cycle anew?

What do you think, is the need for social validation and belonging something inextricable from human behavior or is there a way to be free from it? Have any of you achieve it? If yes how, if no why not? The ideal of a man free from this entrapment would be a traditional hermit like Christopher Thomas Knight or that Vietnamese man from the other /wiz/ thread. Do you think the fact that these people live away from society and technology means that true independence from social needs can't be achieved as long as you live in midst of society? I'd like your thoughts on this.

TLDR see subject title
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I heard something interesting. I heard this mortician say something along the lines of "accepting death does not mean that you don't feel pain after a loss, the acceptance of death is the ability to feel that pain and not be weighed down by existential questions"

i think this statement has psychological depth and relevance to wizards. Most of us are very stoic and "emotionless" as normals would say, could this be responsible for our philosophical depth?

think about that statement again. When someone loses a loved one to death, the expected reaction is for them to break down crying. But wizards or i at least wouldn't do that.
how do i know? Well when i walked in on my mother after she committed suicide i didn't feel sad, i felt a bit frightened but not sad, i didn't throw a fit or break down crying. But i felt a very separated feeling, almost like something you would feel while in deep meditation. I didn't really care because i innately knew that nothing is ever truly gone. But that is far from the only potential stressor in my life. As you could guess my family is highly dysfunctional and i am highly neurotic, this constant onslaught of negative stimuli from my family has drove me near insane sometimes and i often question why i don't have it in me to fight back. where is the innate rage? When will it swoop in and save me? Why am i so defenseless? and even more repugnant, why don't i care?
those questions that arise out of that innate heightened consciousness have caused me infinitely more pain and suffering than any traumatic event could ever hope to achieve. Existential suffering is among one of the worst. And i have yet to 'escape it' per se.

all i know is that i prove what that mortician said. All though i can't say it's an entirely bad thing. I know there are certain special opportunities and insights that come from this existential mindset.
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Life through a moth's spiracle; Solitude of a wizard.

I've lost a moth fly yesterday. I don't know where it could have gone and to my own surprise the case is making me concerned and I keep going back to it, trying to figure things out. I had, until yesterday at least, a moth fly in my bathroom. It's a tiny bathroom and I can close it hermetically, to the point not even light can come throught it. The door shuts in pretty good with virtually no space left between the door and the hinge stile, and the casing is so tight you can hear the air running in and you feel it getting stuck if you close it fast enough. I asure you I have analyzed my door intently and there's no way any insect could get in or out when that door is properly shut and I shut it properly every time. I know I do because if I don't other insects will come in from outside like butterflies, bees or ants. I can't allow that to happen, they eventually get stuck between the lamp shade and its canopy and waste away going in circles. I can't imagine what a horrible death that is, even if the light is off and you're not slowly burning up. I'm currently considering not having a lamp shade at all but it's better for everyone if I just avoid their entrance altogether.

In the moth fly case is different. It's not an insect from the outside coming in, not knowing any better, that moth fly was born inside the drain of my sink. It belongs to the bathroom as much as the shower head and the toilet. The other ones belong on the outside, they know the outside. All that moth knows for a world is the bathroom. A big part of the reason I'm concerned is because I might have made it sick. What happened was, every time I take a shower (once a day in the morning) I let the bathroom's window open, otherwise the plaster from the walls won't ever dry properly and become all yellowish in appearance and ruined over time. Even after I'm done with the shower I keep it open for another couple of hours so the whole bathroom will dry properly. After that I close it down and reopen again in the morning. Now, a couple of days ago I must've been distracted because I accidentally closed the window while the moth fly was standing on the window sash outside. I must add that outside pane is the farthest those moth flies ever get from the bathroom. I didn't realize this until the next morning when I opened the window again and it hopped from the sash to the stool. It didn't fly at all, it just leaped a little bit which is weird. Usually they just fly pretty quick out of danger. Didn't look right.

If you got to this point you must be wondering what this event has to do with wizardry and why I'm posting on /wiz/. The thing is, this increased perception torwards my surrounds is the direct product or wizardy, more specifically, solitude and silence. The older I get, more aware I get of everything around me. It wasn't like that 10 years ago I can tell you that much. Now I could tell you a full story about a crack on the outer wall of my parent's house. Each passing year I can see better, which is funny because I actually need new glasses, my myopia have increased over time. I could actually tell about so much that's going on all around us but you can't see it if you don't abandon yourself, stay silent inside and out and just use your eyes. Each nook and cranny everywhere have something to tell you, something is going on. I'll wager this is one sort of wizard powers. The power to have the right eyes and mind to be able to watch an epic tale unfold on the peel of an orange. I'm not even kidding but I know some people will think I am. I don't think that is a hard concept to grasp but it's not an easy one to appreciate.

Anyway, the moth fly sat in there without moving but still on its legs. I couldn't take a shower with it sitting in there so close to the shower, so I took a piece of toilet paper and gently bothered it until it hopped again to the toiler paper. I took it to the side of the sink where it hopped again, a very sickly hop I think, into the wall. It had spent the whole night outside, maybe the temperature did something to it? I don't know, but it didn't move the whole night waiting to come in. You may doubt it's even the same moth fly, you'll just have to trust me that it was. It had the same size (it may seem the all look the same size but that's because you didn't took your time to look closely) and the same wings a little too far from its body which is a bit unusual. It just happened to be locked outside its home because of my distractedness. I read somewhere that some monks can remember if they were breathing in or out the moment they woke up because they train to cut away all distractedness. I can see now they have a point. It stood there the whole time while I was showering without moving. I did the whole open/close windows routine and it didn't move them. 12 hours later (middle of the nigh) I checked again and it flew from the position I left it, close to the floor, to sit closer to the ceiling, where they usually sit. I convinced myself that was an improvement.

And this morning it's gone. I did a throughly search (it takes 5 minutes, it is a small bathroom with nothing in it but a bar of soap, dental floss and a tooth brush). It didn't die because I would have seen the cadaver on the floor, a white, quite clean floor (I clean it on my knees, it's spotless), I would have seen it. So maybe it went back to the drain? I didn't know adults would ever go back to the drains but apparently they do. I won't use the sink or the shower for the next 48 hours just in case it might be recuperating itself down there and running water may caught it unexpectedly, though they never had a problem with it, who knows. If I ever find it again I make sure to make a post about it, I just read on wikipedia it has a life span of 20 days, I don't know, I'll have to wait an see… Well, I just realized my little story doesn't have a satisfying ending to it, actually it doesn't have any ending at all, somehow I figured it would be better than it actually is, now that I'm reading the whole thing through. Who said it that every true story ends in death? Anyway, life isn't boring at all (I'm now trying to have a moral to the story here, to cover for the lack of ending or goal), you just have to look closer, and closer and then closer still. I know talking about the eye of the beholder is quite clichéd by now but it's true. You don't need to go beyond your door to witness amazing, beautiful or terrible things. I don't know what type of response I'm waiting from this post and I don't know the theme here. I guess I'll just have to post it for what it is, whatever it is. Thanks for reading, I hope you were entertained for a little while at least.
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ho van lang never even saw a female
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When people talk about their sufferings and hardships. They tend to do it in an exalted way. They always tell it as it is and- almost as to accept it, wear it as a badge, laying it bare before the listener.

but please tell me. Who on earth would want people to know of their sufferings? Well. They like to use them not to show how weak they are but as a testament to their fortitude. But i've noticed that these solemn, self proclaimed conquerors of adversity are always either false to themselves or the listener and almost always fall into two distinct, gay categories.

1. The liar.
This person does not tell the story as it is. They tell it the way they tell it to themselves. Like a polished ball of shit. They brush over important parts or details and try to make it sound pretty almost. Hiding the real nature of the situation or event, they often do this to gain sympathy whilst staying morally innocent. The point is that the event or situation was actually too hard to bare for them so they don't tell it to its fullest because they don't want to look like a retard or loser. They tell the fanfiction version they created.

2.the hero
These people were never in any real danger to begin with. They were well equipt to deal with the situation so they are perfectly fine telling it truthfully. Often as not a depressing story but a cool one. They aim to be revered because of it, paint themselves as some sort of underdog when in reality they were on top the whole time.

i don't tell my tales of trauma or hardships because there is no rectitude to be salvaged from them, you as a normal person would get no catharsis in placing yourself in my shoes, no, in fact you would find it repugnant if not frightening. It would make you use that awful buzzword "yikes". You would leave wishing you never heard it because it tampers with your world view and to top it off i still am a loser. But even if i wasn't. Even then you would feel that chaos and evil had one. But you'll never hear it. It would be absolute torment for me to repeat it.

if there is a point to all this posting it is that there is no such thing as a real life reflection or autobiography. There are always things too embarrassing for people to recall and there are always things left out, things that the author hides even from them self. No autobiography is 100% true. It is all embellished. tweaked. and manipulated to sound just.

but what about when things are just downright too nasty, too offensive to repeat? When there is no moral rectitude to be salvaged? When good has not only been triumphed but raped, twisted and BTFO'd a million times over? Those are the stories that go untold. And even if it were to be told. It would never spread.
there are no public underdogs, conquerors of adversity or heros. Those are all liars and lucky and/or privileged con artists.
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van living

What's your opinion on living in a van/car to escape the paying rent scam? It's something that I've been considering doing for a long time and it definitely seems feasible. I want to be able to escape society and to live more freely. I've lived in small rooms before and I'm naturally frugal so I don't think the transition would bother me too much. I also live in the US so something like this is a lot easier here due to the developed infrastructure then probably in other countries. Ideally I'd like to get a small fuel-efficient van and customize it as to make it livable. Could we have a general thread about this sort of thing? If you've lived in a vehicle before, please feel free to share all your tips here.
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Does anyone feel like they reached some kind of enlightenment by being a hikki for years? Staying locked in a room for months was suffering and prejudice to my health but along with that I think I kinda lost the delusions and got more connected to my inner mind, now that I got a job I am back in the world again and every normie looks like they're so delusional and dumbly happy and unaware and stuck in a dumb Cattle life
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Paranoia of everyone being against me

How do you deal with this? My issue personally is that I'm very suspectible of normgroid behavior in public and I nitpick their behavior on their passive aggressiveness. I am a coward so I never really confront them unless it turns to an altercation which rarely happens. I get angry at very little things (i.e person at a stop light speeds off faster than me, leaving a place without receptionist person saying have a nice day, person laughs with their friend when I walk by and automatically assume they're making fun of me etc.). The reason why I'm like this is because I have trouble reading people's emotions and the constant backstabs I recieved has made me more suspectible of normgroid behavior to the point of never trusting them (even extended family members because they have backstabbed me before). I've read tons stories of anons getting teased by normgrouds so I know that normgroids WILL go out of their way to be rude to people just for the sake of it. People on imageboards say things like "It's all in your head wizzie don't worry but often times when I think of the worst common scenario, it turns out to be true. An example would be when I had issues with coworkers at my old job. Apperently some people didn't like me because of my attitude (he isn't quirky and LOVES his job like us wtf!!) but no one told me anything. Long story short, I got fired because someone reported me to management for my "attitude" but when I asked a couple coworkers what everyone thought of me, they said "lol no one badly talks about you" I'm quiet, shy, prefer to be alone, but apperently this pisses off normgroids to no ends. It doesn't help when I see a video on youtube about some guy talking to some guy in a white t shirt witha firm tone in public, and there's comments like "wow guy in white t shirt was so rude because of his tone I would've done x and y to him" where as I would've simply brushed off the guy in white t shirt and not think anything about his tone. This only feeds my paranoia of suspectible normgroid behavior and it's partially the reason why I became NEET for a few years. Sadly I have to wageslave again and I'll have to deal with this problem again. Fuck

tl;dr I assume people do certain behaviors in public just to piss me off or are plotting to be against me which has happened before
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Capitalism and the human mating ritual

Does anyone else view capitalism as being driven mostly by the human mating ritual? It seems to me that one of the main reasons people, men especially, try to achieve social status and earn lots of money is to attract a mate.

When men are trying to impress a succubus they will tell them about all their achievements and their job and spend lots of money on them and generally give the impression that they are rich and can provide for the succubus (and child). Until recently it was quite common for a succubus who was courting a man to not be able to marry him until he had achieved a certain position in society, like becoming a ship's captain or something instead of just a sailor. There was also a bride price in many cases and of course, the engagement ring, a stupid ritual meant to display the man's wealth and ability to buy the damn thing. Capitalism is inextricably linked to our mating rituals.

As someone who has no interest in mating, the whole thing seems abhorrent, mainly because it causes everyone to try and exploit and enslave each other and rank each other in strict hierarchies as it's through this process that wealth is created and obtained. Everyone wants to be the boss man telling people what to do while taking the biggest cut and the succubi are attracted to that because it means they've learned how to game the system in their favor and get a bigger cut of the wealth, no matter if that means they're attracted to qualities of evil. It motivates everyone to work like a dog and that work, done aided by energy provided by fossil fuels is destroying the environment.

Everyone will use whatever tool is available to them to get a leg up because it's all one big dick measuring contest. Everyone is trying to prove they can provide and raise a child to attract a succubus, even if they don't realize it. The gangbanger wannabe in some lowrider car and gold chains is doing a display like a peacock flaring his feathers saying, hey choose me choose me, I am a good mate, I have the ability to get all this so surely I could one day get the things needed to raise a child. All he knows is he wants pussy and succubi like bling because it's instinct.

The whole thing has created an insane world when combined with the technology to let everyone get a large amount of resources. The population exploded like crazy and humans polluted and polluted more and more and destroyed the natural world more and more without care all just to get some pussy and have the cycle repeat. It's not sustainable forever though, that much is clear, the only problem is being stuck on this fucking crazy train with all these lust crazed normalfags determined to drive it off a cliff.
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death and photos

I was googling photos from an old strongman to mimick his tricks but i found several legacy,find a-grave and memorial sites.
I was deeply shocked;how, IF, will I be remembered when i die? what contributions will I have made,or at least personal victories?

i couldnt help but judge people based on their faces,bodies,and age at which they died. linkedin,twitter, (not instagram cause fuck instagram),sometimes I end up a rabbit hole of analyzing stranger's lives.
I dunno, i just wanted to vent. i feel like a creep but also vulnerable