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Leaving the Internet

Internet browsing has been an enormously important part of my life. From my young teenage years through to my late 20s. I have spent a tremendous amount of time browsing all kinds of forums and archives. For me it was a great way to learn about the world, and these creatures called humans that inhabit it, from the safety of my room. Especially as someone with autism, reading countless anecdotes of human behavior has been valuable.

As I approach 30 though, in recent years I am finding myself growing disinterested in forums and discussion boards. Wizchan and some other obscure topic-specific forums are the only places I visit these days, and those visits are becoming more infrequent. Not to sound too romantic about it, but I feel like I'm in the "twilight years" of my internet browsing career. Although this place is special to me, if this trend persists then I may eventually stop visiting here as well. With this in the back of my mind I am savouring my time here. I'm savouring it because I fear that as I continue to age I will no longer browse here due to the lack of novelty and/or not being able to relate to the (on average) younger userbase.

Can anyone else relate to this feeling?

One of the things I treasure most about this place is that the attitudes here align with my own value system. It is a truly wonderful feeling to have your world view validated. There is no way I could ever find such validation in meatspace. To be told (indirectly/abstractly) that there is nothing wrong with me and that I'm fine the way I am. That is precious to me.

I don't know where I'm going with this but I just wonder how ephemeral this subculture is. Will it somehow disappear or will I eventually leave on my own accord before that happens?

What is life like once one outgrows the internet?

To be clear when I mention internet use here I'm referring to lurking in forums and discussion boards and the like. Not using the internet as a utility. Certainly I have many technical interests and the internet is a tool for that, but what I'm referring to in this post is distinct from utilitarian internet use.

Topics similar to this have been discussed here in the past so I apologise if this is a repetitious post.
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Do people find you suspicious?

I'm not sure which section to be posting this in, and I wasn't even sure if I should post it at all. But I can't help but notice that, over the last few years especially (but even in my life in general), anytime I'm in a store (which
isn't very often), or when I used to go to the gym, or when I go for walks, people seem suspicious of me. I catch people staring in my direction, I've noticed employees in stores watching me. I'm not a criminal, I've never broken
any laws intentionally (that I'm aware of). I do tend to get anxious, but I have no bad intentions or anything. I'll give two stories for examples.

When I was a teenager, one time after school I went shopping with my mother at a store. I got tired of walking around and asked to go back to her car, keys in hand. I remember walking around the parking lot for a while because I
couldn't find her car (I had gone out the wrong door by accident). Upon giving up and heading back into the store, a lady drove in front of me, blocking my way, and said "You'd better not be stealing any cars." I was perplexed. The
look she gave me was one of cold-heartedness and hatred. She looked like she despised me. She never even asked what I was doing, instead just straight away accused me of breaking the law. I won't give my exact age but I was less
than 16.

Another time, in my early 20s when I was in university, I was waiting in a hallway by myself, waiting for the classes to change so I could enter mine. There were a lot of people walking past me. All of a sudden, this guy comes up to
me and says, "Hey. Are you the guy?" And I replied, "What?" And he said, "Are you the guy selling cocaine?" I remember saying "No!", but I was so stunned that someone thought I was a freaking drug dealer. A drug dealer. That's
a felony, selling cocaine.

So, I don't mean to ramble on anymore, but are people suspicious of you in general? I've had many instances when in stores of employees watching me, I swear they're whispering about me. And before you say that I'm paranoid, I'm not.
Because I notice that when I'm with my mom, they don't act that way. But if I'm alone, they do. Same with strangers. On my walks, I go to this bridge sometimes. One time I was there alone and this guy walked past me slowly, then
stopped at the end and was constanly looking in my direction. Like what the hell? Do I look like a criminal or something? I don't get it. Is it because I'm ugly? Nervous?
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Is anyone else totally crippled by social phobia both offline and online? I can't even enjoy vidya or the internet completely because of my social phobia.

>avoid leaving my house as much as possible

>only speak when spoken to
>have used the internet since the early 2000s but never made a youtube account, newgrounds account, deviantart, or any other account on a forum to talk with people
>play online multiplayer games since Halo 2 but never used voice chat or made friends because of anxiety
>25 now and have no social skills, no resume, no idea how to drive or get a job

I didn't even live my life online. I feel like I never even existed. Just silently watching the world go by.
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Ordering things online

Does anyone on here order things online? Does anyone use amazon? I always wanted to try an Amazon gift card online but never got around to it.
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Disadvantages of Being Conventionally Physically Attractive

A common sentiment among (supposed) wizardly types is that they are perceived as being conventionally physically unattractive, and that this in part is to blame for some of their difficulties in life. In this thread I'd like to discuss a contrarian viewpoint to this.

I would argue that there are many (overlooked) disadvantages to being physically attractive. I will list some of them here:
>Having a highly introverted personality while being attractive means that people very commonly perceive you as being arrogant (or something like that).
>Not signalling any evidence of sexuality (i.e. having a significant other) means that normalfags are far more likely to perceive you as some kind of sexual deviant.
>People have higher expectations of you in general and expect you to be more competent.
>You become a far more satisfying target for bullying (ex. in the workplace). Meek demeanor + physically attractive = irresistible bullying target. This also relates to the prior point about perceived arrogance - people are more likely to gang up against you.
>You are more likely to be perceived as a social threat, particularly by insecure men. People will often react preemptively to this.
>People (i.e. insecure men) will commonly resent you and feel malicious envy towards you.
>People are more likely to try to befriend you, but they also react more negatively when that friendliness is not reciprocated. The same applies for sexual advances from people.
>People are far more likely to approach you in public.
>The disparity between your appearance (and thus expected behaviour) and actual behaviour is far greater; consequently, people are more likely to perceive you as being mentally ill or psychologically disturbed in some way.

I think a lot of these issues are most relevant to the workplace, but certainly they are relevant to other forms of forced social interaction.

I know this general subject has been discussed to death but I think this perspective is underappreciated.

Please respond with your own list of possible disadvantages, or your opinion on this perspective in general. Save the truwiz debate for /meta/, please.
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I'm wondering how much of our condition is genetic.

I have an uncle who is clearly a sperg, he doesn't do eye contact, he stims and flaps his hands, he isn't social and ignores his family (except me because he's known me since I was a kid).

Although unlike wizards he is obsessed with programming and hobbyist technology (soldering etc), he has a GitHub at 65 years old and his job is repairing commercial refrigerators. Anyways, do you have any family members who you suspect are wizards?
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Would society be better if becoming a wizard were encouraged? If virginity were socially accepted and encouraged, and sex were seen by everyone as gross and animalistic, would our world become better, more free of desire?
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Homeless Japan Wiz

I made a couple threads about a year ago on homelessness, drifting, and vagabond traveling. A wiz that homeless traveled through Japan recounted his travels in those threads.

Since then I've not been able to forget your experiences and I've thought about them everyday and have wanted to replicate them. I wonder if you're still around wizzie. Anyway, you might remember how I mentioned that I wanted to follow in your steps. Well, I didn't do it. But I'm starting to plan again, and I think I will do it this year.

Are you still out there Japan wiz?
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Unknown somewhat lolcows exchange?

Anybody here follows lolcows that are seriously unknown? I mean unknown to the point where there are no posts about them on the lolcow forums?

Here's some guy I have been following, he goes by the name of red and I genuinely feel bad for the guy, he seemed to just want to find happiness but everything that he used to enjoy is no longer his things including media. Recently he made a big mess up when he traveled all the way to another state to basically asked this succubus out but was rejected because "your not white enough" (all of this while he made a video about it). He's seriously giving the Elliot Rodger vibe since he always unironically always talk about the black pill, crabs, and his appreciation of Elliot not to mention he always talk about wanting a cute gf or something since on his discord he's always like >tfw no cute gf
He's what I call what a robot looks like irl, always suicidal, low esteem claims to be against "chads and stays" while orbiting around succubi but disappointed when succubi reject him. I only wish the best for him imo.
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article about (males) not having sex becoming more common

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Legal ways to get energy?

I feel so tired all the time. No matter how much sleep I get or how regular my sleep schedule is. Yes I checked for sleep apnea and any kind of deficiencies.

Coffee gives me nausea. Caffeine pills just make me anxious. I asked my doctor for Modafinil but he told me that he can only prescribe it if I literally fall asleep uncontrollably. I hope you understand that I don't know any people and I also don't feel like dealing with sketchy people online.

So what legal methods are there to make yourself more awake?
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Sobriety General

Anyone up for a wizard sobriety support thread?

After innumerable embarrassing incidents caused by my drinking which I can get into later I really want to stop now. I'm five days sober so far. I enjoy alcohol too much as it liberates me from any unpleasant emotion I may have and makes me feel great, so once I start I want to keep going until I black out.

Getting a nice buzz and stopping is impossible for me as I fundamentally dislike the world and being me so I have to push the escape to the furthest it can go everytime. Becoming sober isn't about some self-improvement thing for me and I'm not under the illusion that it could make me happier, I still will most likely will end it all at some point but the not knowing what's going to happen everytime I drink can't go on.

I figured I need to use any resources out there to prevent a relapse from happening again, so I looked into AA or various online support communities but I suspect they're going to be full of normies. Feel free to share what made you decide to become sober from drugs or alcohol, how long you've made it and tips for staying sober.
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Small town heroes

Who are your heroes? My heroes are the kind-hearted souls who are passionate with their modest hobbies and live a life of eternal adolescence. Think the guy who lives for anime or the collector or the toy train enthusiast. And who are so genuine gentle and not of this world that they are seen as fossils to the outside world.

Take this gentleman for example. Imagine if all those cds were ps1 games. He could ramble for 15 minutes minimum on all the great memories he had in each, the pros, cons, takeaways and nostalgia of each. Like a dedicated coffee drinker, he knows his stuff and dedicates his existence to it. And oblivious or defiant to the social pressure of groidbreeders, he proudly wears his traditional japanese kimono with pride. These heroes in the shadows are too invested in their own beautiful little inner worlds for you to take notice of them, unless you seek them out, perhaps he visits his local comic book store twice a week or attends a humble midwestern convention once a year. Perhaps you'll catch a glimpse of him picking up a pizza at 11pm in anticipation for a long night of gaming. These small town heroes are part The Big Lebowski, but that character was a bit too tryhard and social and ungenuine. These guys don't need to put on an act to go outside, they are as genuine as can be and make no excuses over preferring a night of pizza and JRPG playthroughs than going out and peacocking and attempting to breed. I salute all these small town heroes, wizard or not, who give hope to us all and make all of our existence a little less darwinian.
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Wikipedia Articles

Let's have another one of these. Share interesting Wikipedia articles you've come across. Let's keep reading everything about the world to keep the world (and boredom) at bay. A small description about what you're posting is nice but not necessary.
Here's some to begin with:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmecs - Earliest known major civilization in Mesoamerica

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_D%C3%B3zsa - Man-at-arms from Transylvania, Kingdom of Hungary who led a peasants' revolt against the kingdom's landed nobility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis - Saint who's always portrayed holding his decapitated head.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montague_Summers - Clergyman who authored works about the occult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyakumonogatari_Kaidankai - Interesting parlor game involving samurais and ghost stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girolamo_Segato - Man behind a lost study on petrification of cadavers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_chain_of_being - Interesting theological concept.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus-eaters - A whole race of people sleeping in peaceful apathy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sworn_Book_of_Honorius - Medieval Grimoire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aergia - Goddess of NEETS and Hikis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acedia - a state of listlessness or torpor, of not caring or not being concerned with one's position or condition in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice - Good article, title says it all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzompantli - a type of wooden rack or palisade used for the public display of human skulls.
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Inability to speak well

Does anyone else suffer from this issue? It seems to me that I have trouble constructing sentences when I am talking to people in real life, and even I get my words mixed up when I talk to myself on camera (I make video journals for myself). The issue gets worse when I argue with someone and my words get slurred. I am jealous of people who can quickly form sentences while I need sometime to make up those sentences. I see these same people who can make fluid conversation and I sometimes wonder if there is something wrong with me. It's like they know instantly what to say and how to say it.

A bit of history: When I was a year old I suffered from a seizure that delayed my ability to articulate speech until the age of 7. My mother told me that when I was 5 I could only speak a couple of words. I was in speech classes in school up all the way to 6th grade.

How does one improve speech?
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Free Will

Do you believe that free will exists? I personally suspect that the answer is no, but I believe that the definitive answer must lie in the unsolved problem of consciousness.
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Any fellow wizards from Argentina? How do you cope with living in this hellhole?

Any other discussion about wizards around the world welcome too
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Nootropics, marketing hype or life changing drugs?

So recently I've been looking into nootropics, I've never held a job and I'm a HS drop out, so I really hope this is my saving grace. I am hoping they help me study something productive like programming so I can actually achieve something.

Have any of you tried any nootropics and how well did they work?
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I've been thinking about it and I think i figured out why normie advice is so shit (Just be happy, talk more, be youself). Normie advice is always shit because they've never faced a true outcast of society. The two examples I have off the top of my head are social skill forums and 'just be your self'

Most people on social skill forums are simply average people (social skills, looks, everything) with confidence issues or lacking a bit in one skill. They post on the forum melodramatically with stuff like 'I think everyone hates me', 'I'm ugly', 'I can't talk to people', and they come in with their bandwagon anxiety/depression shit. I'm not saying their emotions aren't real, but they're only real in the 'teenager crying over not getting an iphone because they don't know what true pain is' real.
So to fix their problems normies go into social skill forums and come out with 'just be confident and talk more' because thats all they really need. They're just slight odd normies who need a pep talk. The problem is when a true outcast or wizard comes in.

The wizard/outcast complaints of 'everyone hates me', 'I'm ugly' ,'I can't talk to people', and barrage of mental issues gets categorized as another melodramatic normie. Even melodramatic normies try to debate they're not melodramatic normies so the wizard can never explain why normie pep talks don't work on him. To make it even worse you can't debate normie advice without getting a 'oh you're just cynical' because edgy/melodramatic normies have tried to co-op the idea.

'Just be your self' is standard advice given in childrens movies. The advice works if the charatcers self they are hiding is just over something they are to self conscious, in the standard melodramatic normie way, or it's something only literal boomers would hate, people thinking they are weird for liking 'mario'. This is what normies assume someone is like when someone doesn't like themselves, so when an actual outcast comes in it's brushed over as another 'melodramatic normie'. To bring myself as an example I want to change some of my interests (I like obscure stuff in general) so I can have a baseline of communication with normies (watch some MCU ore read up on pop culture). I tried to look for resources on this, but I was booed away with 'just be yourself'. They probably thought I was some 'insecure with liking pokemon' dude, but I was 'all my favirote artist have <1,000 views' type dude.
What do you think wizards?
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"Anon, are you gay?"

How many here have had the "Anon, are you gay?" talk or just people in general being convinced you're gay?

FWIW, I don't want to copypasta myself, but my version of that is buried in a thread over here: >>160907 .
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Hellfire is a comin'

Many of you despair at the state of the world and modern consumerism society, but I am here to tell you not to fear because the world that you hate so much is about to end.

The truth is that the data coming back very recently, within the past few years or so has confirmed what climate scientists feared when we first found that methane levels were rapidly rising with no discernible cause: the arctic sea ice is melting and releasing trapped methane into the atmosphere.

Now if you don't know what that means, basically methane is like this evil carbon dioxide you hear so much about except a hundred times worse in terms of the amount of global warming it will cause. As the ice melts, two things start to happen that will result in a runaway rapid warming effect that will completely destroy the current peace and cause billions of deaths including the extinction of other species besides humans. The first is that the physical presence of the ice over a large area in the arctic acts like a kind of reflective mirror that helps reflect some of the energy coming in from the sun. With that melted, that light no longer gets reflected and instead absorbs onto the surface somewhere and radiates heat into the atmosphere. The second thing is that pockets of methane that are trapped in the ice shelf will release into the atmosphere. Both ice on land and in the sea contains large amounts of methane and any instability in that ice is game over and the ice has been destabilized. The last time we had a mass extinction, an event where over 95% of all species on earth went extinct, the cause was because of rapid increases in methane from the arctic ice melting. We're already seeing mass extinction happen with estimates of the current rate of extinction at about 1000 times higher than usual.

Most of our climate change models predicted a slow and steady linear increase in temperatures, but that's not what the data show is happening at all. The effects appeared slow and linear for a while, but now we're seeing a sudden acceleration that is corresponding to an exponential increase, not a linear increase in atmospheric methane levels that has been happening for over 10 years now. We fucked up. It's too late now to ever prevent large scale social collapse. There will be famine and drought and war, billions displaced and starving. No doubt there will be a revolution and the current order will fall.

Here is a good paper about this by a scientist who has dedicated his life to studying this issue. I encourage all of you to read it: https://www.lifeworth.com/deepadaptation.pdf

Now what does this mean for the depressed wizard who hates the current world? For me it means that there is hope that you can survive to see a new social order arise out of the ashes of our current society. Assuming you survive anyway. You can safely ignore the concerns of normies now knowing that they are in denial and are just wasting time while they still can. Any plans for the future need to be made with the knowledge that the future will be on fire and the things you rely on society for like food will no longer be guaranteed which makes the concerns of normies trivial and insignificant. We have to figure out how to live in a sustainable way like our ancestors did, assuming that's still possible in the new climate. Do not lose hope wizards, this era of bullshit wageslavery is almost at an end.
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Wizards or apprentices still living with your parents, this is our thread.

How's your life situation? Do you have a job yet are unable to move out for some reason? Are you like me and been sitting on that college diploma for a year already trying to dodge the "when are you going to get a job" questions?
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are there any fellow neets who are thinking about becoming criminal? who wants to become powerful, self-sufficient, and self-controlling? Sadly, I'm too weak to go down thsi road by myself, and would like to have someone I can lean on, but im friendless.
Would at least like to have a friend who considers himself a bit immoral (one who might not have the values of a normie).
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Science is religion for the current age.

People who think themselves to be intelligent refer to high level concepts in quantum theory and in Biology but have not done calculus 2 or 3 or even studied biology at a college level.

We live our lives the way our elders did. We go to the priests and learn from them the truth about the universe without understanding the base concepts ourselves and repeat what we're told to ourselves for comfort.

The priests are not fools but they do fool others, when they want they will drop misleading information to steer people into a direction they wish.

Science relies on trust, if we do not trust each other, we no longer have science,
if we trust without doubting, we allow these bad actor to enter and start manipulating.

Do you expect a 50 year old bus driver to spend his nights reading up on the latest academic papers, do you expect a succubus with two children to have time to read and understand articles not aimed at the masses?

How can we expect people to fallow science but also not believe through faith alone? Its not possible, science always requires faith, not only on the bases of data and analysis but also faith that people being put into high positions through merit.
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Making a living off the internet

I've always been fascinated by twitch streamers and youtubers. It's amazing how these guys can leech of a bunch of normies for so little, some of my favorite streamers and youtubers have the shortest temper ever and personality, their not wizards but they are clearly most likely not the most acceptable people in the world, i'm good when it comes to sitting in front of the PC and playing games and giving my commentary in thing, altho I do not know how have a proper conversation IRL I can give my opinion on something if I have the time to, and I would give anything to become a anituber or twitch streamer, I'd like to think my content is somewhat better than most out there anybody else had any dreams or ambition to make it online?

(Sorry for bad english)
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My fantasy dreamlife as a Medieval Scholastic theologian

We've had a lot of discussions about Monks, and I certainly understand the appeal of being physically separated from the normie world in an isolated group-hermit community of fellow volcel men. But I'm not sure if I'm suited for the laboring aspects of it, picking potatoes. And so while I started out with monks as my ideal community, I started looking into the more academic side. It was actually right here on Wizchan, in one of the Monk threads, were a Wiz in Missouri mentioned there was a monastery very near him. And then I did some research on it and found out it was also a Seminary. And that seemed like the idea for me, combining Benedictine community with academic scholarship. And so I realized I was more interested in the scholastic aspect. So I started looking into other orders like Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits.

As a teen I used to have very creative fantasies about my future adult life. They were so detailed, that it would have been almost a disappointment if they came true, a deja vu, rerun. Now that I'm an adult, most of my fantasies are about redoing life right. Although even with a magic time machine, it seems like every turn is a wrong one. I get into a lot of detail with my schizoid couldabeen watif fantasies. Even looking up Archive.org pages from 2006 of colleges I could have went to.

Lately my main fantasy has been over being a scholastic professor of medieval metaphysics. My main interests are philosophy and history. And some of my watifs revolve around being a high school history teacher or college philosophy professor. Getting paid to talk about my favorite subject is awesome. But babysitting hormonal American teenagers is hell for even normies. And a larger problem of devoting my life to secular philosophy, is I study the ontology of Hegel or Heidegger just saying Being Being Being all day. And then at 70 I wonder what the point of it all was. As a Scholastic saying God God God all day, at least there is a point.

In my fantasy, in 9th grade just when I was getting into Calvin, Cromwell, Charlemagne, I instead get into St. Benedict as the ideal community. And read everything I can on Monks and the other Catholic orders. I remember reading HG Well's Outline of History, and being inspired by his description of Ignatius of the Jesuits. How he had been a soldier, but then seen the light, and devoted this military virtues to instead serving God as a volcel. So then I convert to Catholicism in college, go to this college near me that specializes in Continental Philosophy, get my BA and Phd. Become a Jesuit or Dominican. Devote myself to the abstractions of medieval ontology. With any ideology or worldview, with me it starts with the praxis of the ideal community, but I quickly float upward to the most abstract metaphysics. Its the same categories I study in modern secular philosophy but with medieval scholastic volcels. Essence-Existence, Form-Content, Abstract-Concrete, Potentiality-Actuality, Cause-Effect, Substance-Accident, Quantity-Quality, Universal-Particular, One-Many.

Just living among my volcel brotherhood of Dominicans, reading and writing, getting into the intricacies of medieval metaphysics. Henry of Ghent and Duns Scotus being my companions and arguments, instead of this modern world. I could be living in 1300 and it wouldn't make a difference, because I'm just pure mind. The words on paper have more reality than the world around me. Yes this was the life I was meant for. I want to be a volcel. I held volcel values a decade before I found Wizchan. But I don't know how to live within the world with my values or to find a community of values outside the normie mainstream. I was between a rock and a hard place. Can't live by my values, can't live by their values, can't live at all. If only I had become a medieval scholastic. Thats what I was meant to be. Aspects of the Catholic Church were a stumbling block to me. But what do I know about right and wrong? The only morality is celibacy, and the RCC is the sole volcel institution of the West. Thats the only ethics I needed. And from the volcel praxis to the Thomist ontology. Logic-chopping how many angels can dance on a pin. So removed from this darwinian universe. Just talking to God about metaphysics all day.
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The Famous Awkward Question

Has anybody ever asked you if you are a virgin? If so, what did you answer? As for the rest, how would you feel in that situation? How would you answer that question?
In my case, a classmate asked me that question some years ago –I think I was 25 years old back then. I thought it would be stupid to lie, so I just told him the true. As expected, he tried to give me some tips on how to stop being shy and stuff. I listened to him and then changed the subject with a few shitty jokes. To be honest, he was kind of a nice guy, so I'm pretty sure he had good intentions.
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Seriously, do you think that self diagnosis can be done? Because I do and I will never pay for a psychologist. But normies of course just say the line "seek help"
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ahhaha, what a f**king crybaby faggot, can't even forgive a old cripple of a man yeT BILLIONS OF FUCKING ANIMALS ARE SLAUGHTERED EVERY YEAR, and that pos eats meat I bet. What's worse, slaughter of animals (pigs,cows) or a priest touching your fucking shitter,

An 86-year-old priest was put on trial yesterday on indecent assault charges where a man testified that 50 years ago when he was a 12-year-old boy the priest put his hand into his underpants and fondled his genitals.

Quite scary the billions of humans on the planet,
The question is: Are we being farmed?
Yes, you are everything on the earth in experience, so humans are farming themselves
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The Matrix IRL

Everyone knows this movie is real, but not everyone has taken the time to truly appreciate the veracity of its concepts and how it REALLY works, in a bit greater detail, particularly what the Matrix programs deprive us of.
I think most of /dep/ is too controlled for this information, so I'll post it here on /wiz/, but even here I don't expect a very good reception due to the amount of self-reflection needed to truly appreciate this sort of information.

Source is http://www.universe-people.com
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i want a van so i can fill it up with food and water and just become a hermit out in the desert for a month (away from my family)
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What do mothers think of their children being virgins?

We were in the health center and after I left the doctor's office, she began to ask me what the doctor said, and then she asked if I had told him everything, then her voice took a different tone when she said "did you tell him that you not engage in sexual acts?"
I didn't know what to say so I kept silent. She then followed and said "you had to tell everything to the doctor"

I wonder what she thinks of her son being a virgin. Is she ashamed of me? I think she might think that I'm a failure, she's a normalfag after all and had expressed her desire for me to have kids and a family in the past.

When she sees her friends and they talk about their children, the topic must come up, her friend's children must be big normalfags unlike me so I'm sure she is embarrassed of talking about me.
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I think I’ve figured out a big reason why I don’t get along with most people, and it’s going to seem very stupid, but I’ve realized I just can’t understand what the hell they’re saying most of the time. As soon as I enter a more noisy uncontrolled environment (which is most places), I just can’t understand what the fuck people say to me, but everyone seems to understand each other just fine. And I probably just sound like a retard to everyone else, because I just nod along whatever they say even though I have no idea what they just said. I don’t want to ask them a hundred times what they were trying to tell me, so I just leave it at that. This might seem idiotic, but I’ve only just realized how much this probably affects interacting with normals. I’m not sure if I should go to the doctor and try to remedy this, if anything can even be done about it, but I’m starting to think I have an actual hearing impairment of some sort.

Does anyone here have a similar story?
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Hi, I'm a 27yo french neet wizard who've been put in mental asylum by his father two years ago.

Psychiatrics gave me antipsychotics drugs with a needle in my ass.

I'm out of hospital right now but I have a mandatory case who said if I don't get the needle every three weeks, cops come to me and put me back in asylum.

I've met the judge twice but he says I'm mad…

There are more than 100.000 people every years put through strength in mental asylum each year in France. Doctors says everyone of those is insane, they says 12.000.000 people have mental disease in France.
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Can any of you wizzies post some wizardly looking pics you have? Extra points if it's comfy. I like this hermit wizard Knight look
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Death of Parents or Other Relatives

Can we have a thread where we discuss the death of our parents or other significant relatives? Please make a post in this thread about your experience dealing with the death of a parent or other relative. What advice do you have for other wizards? How did you handle things like funeral arrangements, sorting things out with other family, finances, inheritance, housing, nursing homes, hospice care, insurance, or emotional issues. How did your other family members handle any of these things?

I'm not dealing with this yet but my parents are old and unhealthy. I know I need to plan ahead. I'm autistic and I can't stand when unexpected things happen, so I need to game out various scenarios in my mind before they happen. It is likely that my father will perish first and that my mother will eventually need some sort of nursing home.

I'm very interested in hearing the experiences of other wizards relating to this topic. I'd imagine that there are others here who are interested as well.
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Money money money

I’ve realized that If I would have enough money I wouldn’t even leave my apparent, bc job is the main and only reason why I do that. I also think the situation is very humiliating, so I have started to think how to make dissent income without investing to much time in it.
I Just kind of what to share my thoughts about it, and get some tips/feedback.
1. I play a lottery. Yes, I know this is dumb, but it only takes 10$ a week and gives me a small chance to quit the damn circle.
2. I invest in dividend stocks and bonds. Those are more or less low risk investments and you build cash flow with them over time. The only problem is I need a million to retire instantly, and it will take a long time. I use two apps for that. One is for stocks only and has no fees. The other one has access to bounds and let’s you buy expensive stocks partially. They charge you a dollar a monthly though.
3. I thought about landing clubs, but haven’t tried them yet.
4. I also thought about buying some collectibles and selling them after they grow in price. That seems like a good way to multiply your money if you know what you are doing.
5. The other thought was to create a bitcoin pull by hacking into people’s computers and cut the costs of mining down to 0. But that requires some knowledge, and I am not quite sure how profitable it would be.
So please share if you have any experience with any of it, or any other easy income ideas. Thanks.
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Wizardhood (1/5)

The ‘Wizard’ meme is now among the most enduring traditions of the imageboard, with entire sites devoted to the practice of sorcery now available for young apprentices to study on and evade the jealous gaze of the succubus who has laid many a powerful apprentice low. But did you ever consider, even if for a moment, if there was more than the meme? Did you ever consider that there is a reality behind this powerful illusion, a core truth upon which this is based?

One might begin the argument by witnessing how many of these supposed ‘wizards’ are complete losers. Ugly pariahs who fail to even use their untouchable status to ascend to a higher spiritual plane. I will tell you now of their folly. Simply abstaining from sex with the feminine is not sufficient to maintaining a pool of mana required for entering the world of wizardry. Many of these supposed wizards, who claim to have given up on succubi entirely continue to expend mana, for the internet provides perhaps the sweetest, most unassuming and most cloying traps for the magickal apprentice.

Of course, I speak of pornography. Let us not speak ill of masturbation, for it is a pleasurable and sometimes necessary act, but the pornography that is today available is able to cast a more potent spell over the male mind than anything our fathers had to deal with. Rather than a still image of a succubus, we are presented with thousands of high definition videos of succubi engaged in sex acts. When we see a human body in motion rather than a static one, the mind has a much more difficult time distinguishing a nonreal entity from a real one, in some sense we respond to the moving succubus on our screen as if she was moving before us in person.
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Your thoughts on the 2010s?

I can't believe it's about to be 2020 in less than 4 months. It went by too fast. Still feels like 2009 was barely 4 years ago.
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The All-Embracing Library

Size 177.96GB. I dare to say contains among the best books of their fields and are supposed not to repeat. It is a extremely well ordered collection by topic, and if you compare the size you soon see its value. Topics range from mathematics, physics, psychology, self improvement, survivalism, the best science fiction and fantasy literature, comics, magazines, and more. Magazines takes about 75 GB and there are many youtube videos, documentaries and conferences so you can exclude these if you want to. All books combined takes about 40 GB or so. But i really recommend downloading other stuff too since you can't really find it somewhere else easily. Did I mention is well sorted and contains only the best books?


It has only one seeder left right now. Used to be many more months ago. Would you kindly share this torrent on places like demonoid, piratebay and other imageboards too? That would be good.
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Any wizzies here exercise? Whether calisthenics, weightlifting, cardiovascular, or other. Share the reasons why you do/don't exercise, what you do, etc..

I tend to agree with Socrates: “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”.
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Wizardly Hygiene

Just wondering how other wizards/apprentices feel in regards to hygiene. I'm NEET and my bathing is inconsistent, nowadays I'll sometimes go 2-3 days without a bath for every bath I take, but this used to be much worse. I would go a week plus without one consistently, and I think my worst stint was 2 months without bathing. I also used to have unkempt long hair and it was matted and tangled. I floss every day and brush occasionally, I'm actually terrified of the dentist and so I treat my teeth a bit better than the rest of my body

All things considered my hygiene isn't too bad, though I currently have dandruff, which is annoying and makes it hard for me to feel truly clean.
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What does your world look like? How do you live your life? Is your world a nice place?

I think the world is fundamentally bad (a la Ligotti/Inmendham), but there are ways that we can extract enjoyment from it. As for how I live, I believe that we have partial control over how we feel, so I force my brain to feel energetic and happy.
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Kessler Syndrome

As satellites in space smash into each other, debris is created. That debris collides creating tinier debris. The more shit we launch up into space, the more debris we create. The more shit we abandon up there, the years, no, decades of work, left up there like trash thrown to the wayside, the more debris we put up there. One day all of this debris will culminate into a layer of sand sized debris in our orbit, covering our planet, preventing any further launches. No GPS, no satellite based internet or TV, nothing. Darkness. Anything we put up there will be shredded and apart of the blob we have created. Our ingenuity is our undoing. Our haste will kill us all. The space race doomed us.

We should have been safer.
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Decisions to make

These are the three likely choices for most wizards if they can no longer be wizards or neets due to whatever circumstances brought upon them, which one do you choose and why? There are exceptions like inheritance, welfare and being rich though.
1: Wageslaving and being forced to interact with normies and living in a cheap, possibly shitty apartment for the rest of your days.
2: Packing up your belongings and living in a van or braving the unknowns and going with what you may or may not know as a homeless person.
Or 3: Suicide, simple as that.
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What was your school life like? Was it hell? I came close to dropping out like four times.
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Solo dining

Is this a thing? have you done it before? I know coffee shops/cafes it's normal to go alone but actual restaurants i'm not sure. I used to love to go out to eat with my parents, by myself though I think I would feel uncomfortable.
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Compulsive Disorders

I have an impulse compulsive disorder called Trichotillomania. It means I have urges to pull hair from my body. I mainly pull from my beard and sometimes scalp. This really affects the way I look, which in turn affects my self esteem.
Look at pic related for eg. I pulled these hair from left side of my face. So as of now, my face looks unsymmetrical, with hair on one side and no/less hair on the other.
Sometimes people tease me about my "beard style" and I just shut down at those moments. I don't know how to reply, so I just leave.

Does anyone else here has to deal with compulsive disorders? How do you cope with it?
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How do you stay mentally healthy while having no friends or really anyone to talk to?

Solitary confinement is a punishment for a reason. Yet do not advise me to talk to people, I won't do it. I can't decide which is worse, becoming mentally ill or enduring another's company. Of course, if I could be alone and retain my sanity it would be great. But is it possible? If so, how?
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programming jobs

Me mom wants me to study something next year,and since i cant do a full career at uni,we decided I have to do something computer-related,so im using electronics all day.
now,i dont know any language,I can use deep web,solve basic PC problems,but thats it.
can an adult learn from 0?is it possible to get a job or trade with programming or web-designer skills?
i eagerly await help and advice,im needing income
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so what do you do all day? are you like me? i get up in the morning and get on the computer until sun down. i have been doing this for more than a decade. i spent my entire 20s on the internet
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Forced Asexuality

Have any of you guys tried "forcing" yourself to become asexual? People on quora (https://www.quora.com/Can-you-become-asexual-by-trying) say that you're born asexual, just like you're born gay, lesbian, trans etc. and that you can't make yourself change your sexuality by you power of will.they also say that being asexual is a hassle in this oversexualised society, but wizards prefer a solitary lifestyle away from society, so it's not a problem for us, right?
The reason I'm asking is because I tried to do just that for the past few years. At first, anything that looked like a succubus or her certain body part would make me hard. But after reading some biology books, watching a few documentaries and through my sheer power of will I successfully managed to make myself not attracted to succubus boobs, 3d and 2d. They don't evoke any kind of response from me anymore, so it's definitely possible to "change" your sexuality and what you're attracted to. I still feel attraction to ass and wide hips and I'm working on that. If any of you guys successfully managed to stop being attracted to ass, please let me know how you did it.
Wouldn't it be nice to not feel any sexual attraction to succubi at all?
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Have you ever thought about becoming a lolcow cringe comedy character?

I know most people would ask why would anyone want to be a laughing stock town fool of the internet? But way back to childhood days, the only options I ever had were to be an ignored quiet mouse or a loud wacky cartoonish entertainment monkey. Mouse or Monkey thats it. And so I became a local celebrity of my school days. Sometimes I would get resentful that they were laughing at me, not with me, mocking me, teasing making fun. Like the lolcows of the internet. But after trying to be serious in college, and just being totally ignored, I realized that attention beats isolation, and its the only means of socialization I know. For the last few years I've retreated back into my mouse role, and have had almost no human contact.

Its just seems like the cringe lolcow role of the internet, is basically like being the local clownish celebrity that I spent my whole school years being. Its a way to turn the strange weirdness into a commodity. I see folks who are less weird and less comedic getting audiences of millions. Maybe I could do it. Although I have the flaw of speaking in a way thats so cringey its boring, rather than so cringey its hilarious. But it just seems like my old weirdo class clown cartooning but with an audience of millions. Maybe it was my calling.

And then some of these guys actually make money on this shit through youtube ads and patreon, being a cringe is literally their full time career.
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the wizard beard

Wizards are always despicted with huge beards in media. Anyone here has experience growing one?

I live in a major city that receives a large amount of tourists all year around. These people don't have any shame and will stop anyone on their tracks to ask how to reach some tourist spot. I'd like to evade these encounters and I thought a wiz beard might keep them away.

Problem is that I'm disgusted by filthiness, a beard is another thing to take care of, and since it's so close to the mouth, I'm guessing it gets dirty easily.
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Is it possible to be happy without social contact of any kind(including posting on 4chan or wizardchan) as a human being (social animal)?

i think the real enlightenment would be to live happily and content without anybody. if you can do this without becoming mentally ill or depressed, you're a god among men

i am socially isolated but i still have wizchan or 4chan so i am not completely socially isolated. i have enough social contact to prevent me from losing my mind
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How would you reset your brain ?
Depressed, tinnitus, eczema, fear of death and obsessions … all appeared fairly at the same time, while a part is for sure due to my genetic predispositions and my poor way of living, I wonder if psychedelics,lucid dreams and such could help me ?

Any thoughts or stories are welcomed, even if it's bro-science, if you have some cool science papers to share or if you think it is useless
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Feelings are a disease

Wizards do not naturally produce feelings. We are thinkers. Feelings are a psychic overlay that falls on us by an outside source. The Demiurge. They are inconsistent, you can have multiple feelings for the same event. Antidepressants neuter feelings at the expense of the thinking function. They make you dumber. As science progresses, we shall reach our true forms as pure thinkers. I for one can't wait for the day that humans are robots with organic components for organic functions.
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Hajime Ueda

I want to talk about Hajime Ueda's works, even though he hasn't made a whole lot and has basically disappeared nearly ten years ago, he made a huge impact on me. He drew two pieces of manga:

- Q-ko Chan

What gets me is not the art style, but rather the how insanely detached his worlds are. Everyone in his manga says and does things this that would not happen in normie society AT ALL. For example, when Naota's friends (again, in Hajime Ueda's work in the manga) see his horns, instead of freaking out, they begin picking on him and drawing faces on them. Or Naota has his life flash before his eyes because he thinks he's going to die and he's completely fucking disinterested after his own demise. Whenever there's a "family around the table" moment it's done in the most fucked up way, with everyone acting in ways to fuck up a kid in the largest possible ways ("I just wanted to make models" if you remember the scene). Or how much of a "Fuck this place" look Naota has before he ditches school. I mean, I can't think of a more wizardly depiction of things.

If it's not a bother, I'd like to discuss a few more clippings from his manga that have really stuck with me, even though I struggle to say why beyond "I still remember them decades later." Something that bugs me is how, and I can't believe I'm saying this since I usually find this so snobbish when others say it, but how important the translations are. For example, in Q-ko chan, this lieutenant shows up at this mother's house, and threatens to beat the shit out of this kid, and the kid gets this dead look in his eyes to which the lieutenant thinks, "Huh, this kid must be used to this, that's no fun" (speaking of which, there are a lot of scenes in all of Hajime's works where the protagonist has this dead-eyes-while-leaning-on-a-wall-and-breathing-through-their-mouth look, and every single one is, I feel, so easy to sympathize with), but they don't have this at all in other translation. Or a scene Naota mentions how schools protects him from the perverts (in other translations they say "lunatics"). Or Haruko convinces Naota to skip school, and notes how you haven't really learned a city until you've played hooky.

The attached pic is one that's stuck with me, I'll post another in a moment. I've posted both of them quite frequently on this board…

I don't know what happened to Hajime, but I miss his works.
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Urban v. Rural

I don't know if this belongs in the wageslave thread, or if I shouldn't be making this because it sounds like 'bragging.' I left the city about three years ago to somewhere with a population <10k, and I have to say HOLY SHIT HAVE THINGS GOTTEN EASIER.

Constantly have to worry about someone breaking in? Nope.
Obnoxious normies at 2 in the morning? Nope.
Can I find employment? Fuck yes. Everyone else who is young left for the city (boomers amazed at someone simply knowing how to use a computer).
Cost of living? Cheap. The reduction in the cost of rent alone more than accounts for the decrease in any wage.
Meanwhile all the normies complain about "having nothing to do" in a small town just makes me think that I've made the completely correct choice.

It's just…I feel like a goddam human being again. The level of stress is so much less. I want to cry.

Anyone else leave the city?
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What are your realistic predictions for society in the next decade or so?

Will post mine below, and would appreciate any feedback or criticism.
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The Demiurge


Can we discuss this figure? Do you believe he's real? Do you see him as a symbolic depiction or metaphor of humanity's doomed existence and suffering?

I don't know if such a being exists but the more I learn about the material realm and all we know so far about physics, it really seems that the entire material universe has suffering as a default feature on every sentient being. Evil and destruction is easier to do and more difficult to fix or reverse, even the smallest bacteria's life is defined by killing or being killed (or harming or being harmed) in some way
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Wiztown Wiz Neighborhood

I don't think the Wiz Commune will ever happen as it involves a social community-building and pooling of resources and living in close proximity that most Wizs probably aren't suited for.

A more realistic idea could be of building a Wiz neighborhood, street, even apartment block.

We just pick one small town in the USA and the EU and make it our Wiz HQ that all Wizards aspire to move to. Since most Wizs live our lives on the internet, location in the middle of nowhere doesn't really matter.

Wiztown USA

Wizburg, EU
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Internet ruined my life

I came to this realization very recently.

I'm literally getting withdrawals from not having internet and even dreaming about them, but I know it's for my own good.
I've played games virtually every single day for over twenty years now, and they've ruined many aspects of my life.
Internet pretty much ruined my life. I have no attention span anymore for anything unless I'm drunk.
Apart from that: the internet offers way too much information and sites like this is mostly negativity. It drains energy.
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how can someone be so sophisticated? If i ever tried writing something like notes from underground it would come off as whiny and melodramatic. I think it was due to his time being in the renaissance that he could articulate what was on his mind. is there any writer like this guy?
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Real Life Truman Show

Does anyone else feel like they're living in a world-sized play set? A lot of events in my life, the way they play out, follow each other and "coincide" simply makes no sense. Unless there really is a cosmic deity, or a number of them, simply being fond of throwing all sorts of hurdles before me and tormenting my mind for laughs.
And there's no escape, no matter what I do. I could stay at home, and then all the sinister thoughts begin creeping inside my mind. Should I leave it, the world immediately changes to mess with whatever plans, however little, I have.
It sounds like schizo ramblings, but I swear it's all too real and suspicious to not entertain such thoughts.
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Volunteering with senior citizens

Way back when I was in middle school and we had to do volunteering, the principal suggested given my interest in WW2, I might like volunteering at the senior center. I was sour on it at the time, but actually it makes a lot of sense.

I've found that I relate to older people more, maybe its because I'm lost in the past and more interested in their century than our own. Or maybe because I'm a person of the mind not body, I relate to people whose physical side has worn itself out.

They are the only ones still alive who care about my aspie interests, the books and magazines I want to read at the library are only checked out by seniors.

I've never went to any events specifically for seniors, but I find that everything that I show up for from the Church to activism to discussion groups are always filled with older people, with not just me, but even my dads' age being the youngest one there.

But lately there hasn't been much going on in my town. And I was thinking of volunteering at the senior center. Give me something to do. Do a good deed. And maybe get a little human interaction in a non-normie way.
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Goodbye NEET life

About to get a call back for my first "real" job, it's IT tech support.
While not excited about it, it's better than a supermarket and at least it's something I'm somewhat interested in. I happen to know they run debian servers, so hopefully I can work my way up to be a comfy sysadmin or something.
Wish me luck wizzies, truly going to miss being a NEET and I hope I never sperg at work or something like that.
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An Interesting Podcast

Hello wizzies,

I stumbled upon an interesting podcast that I think you would also find enjoyable. A sample episode which might generate broad interest is linked here:

The podcast is about a ~50 year old man's experiences with aspergers. I myself have debilitating ASD so I found SOME aspects of his stories relatable. More importantly, I have a very strong academic interest in autism. I know in not the only autistic person here. In any case though, his commentary on social phenomena I think many of you would find interesting or relatable.

All the episodes can be found here:http://aspiecast.libsyn.com/

Disclaimer: the host is a hypersocial normalfag and not at all wizardly. So let's not argue about wizlam please. Personally I think he's an idiot in many respects and has poor character as a person.

There is an Elliot Rodger episode, for the wizkids who give a shit about that (I personally don't).
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NEETbux, Autismbux, Gibs etc.

Does anyone here in the USA have food, housing and money provided to them by the government due to a successful disability claim?

How much do you get per month, and what is the standard of living like? Also, what are the financial requirements, such as maximum assets allowed, or required attempts to gain employment?

I'm sure I could get on disability with a good lawyer, but I am reluctant to do so yet due to the time and money required to prove I have autism and drag it through court, and am worried that they'll just put me in a shithole apartment in a shithole neighborhood, can't have more then $2000 saved and only afford shit quality food. If that's the case then I'd just stay with my parents and ride it out 'till the wheels fall off.
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Can psychiatrist know everything about from conversation with me?

Look, I ve never been to psychiatrist neither psychologist. But I know that something wrong with me, I know for sure that I had strong social phobia for many years and perhaps I may have aspergers syndrome and some kind of neurosis? Also I m introverted male. I ve never had any friend.

I wonder if I go to psychiatrist and I wont be quite honest to him. What would happen?

Would he find out that I m laying even if I would say logical things to him, or he wouldnt find out it?
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Military thread

What's your opinion on serving in the military? I know there's been some military wizards on here before, so I guess I was curious about your experiences if you have had any. Though there's a lot of 3rd world wizards who browse here, I guess this is obviously geared towards experiences in the western militaries. Or we could just have a general /mil/ thread for discussing topics and stuff.
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people over 20, how do you still manage to enjoy imageboards when more than 90% of the population is obviously underage or just slightly above the threshold? do you even realize that you're trying to have a discourse about life with people who never had to deal with anything more complicated than math homework? are there actually any people here over 20 who enjoy staying here because you can relate to what is being said here and other wizards and not because it's just habit for you and you feel like you have nowhere else to go?
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Stoa Thread

Stoicism is a school of Philosophy with roots in ancient Greece. It is believed that its founder, Zeno of Citium, came to invent it after a unfortunate shipwreck turned him from a prosperous merchant into a very poor man. The story tells that after this unlucky event Zeno became an assiduous reader of the life of Socrates, and that instructed by the example of the old Greek philosopher he himself came to make philosophy on his own and teach it at the Stoa Poikile, a famous building of the city of Athens - hence the name of the school.

Sotoicism focused on the study of Logic, Metaphysics and Ethics. But, in contrast to academic philosophy how we know nowadays, they were only interested in abstract reasoning because they believed that their findings should resonate in behavior,i.e, in what means to live a good life. Having this in mind, stoics often stressed the importance of self-control, discipline and clarity of thinking: virtues that could lead someone to attain what they called atharaxia, which means "apathy", "tranquility", a state of non-perturbation in the psyché.

Stoicism became so influential that even among ancient Romans it was often practiced. Amongst the well-known roman stoics are the slave Epictetus, Nero's preceptor Seneca, and the successful emperor Marcus Aurelius. All of them have famous writings on the practice of stoa, from somewhat different practical standing points, as you can infer by their positions in Roman society.

I highly recommend to fellow wizards the hearing of this audio book from Epictetus Enchiridion. It has good advice indeed to deal with various occasions that can put us off in daily life. Sometimes difficult to attain, but the idea is not to become an ancient philosopher from day to night.
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dads, siblings' dads, stepdads, maternal boyfriends

I would like to know my fellows' experience with dealing with these categories of people in your life. I've had encounters with all 4 (separate individuals) at various times in my life and found them upsetting in various ways. They've all let me down. I've never felt loved by any of them. I feel like I'm the inherent target of all of their hatred, that they all wish I was dead. I'm angry at my mother for her poor choices and not being choosier and holding higher standards. I listed in them in order of encounter. Each is more awkward than the last. Each is less sane and stable than the last. Each is more violent than the last. Each is more NPCish than the last. I feel like I get pulled into conflicts, manipulated, used as a buffer, when as the person who choose to bring them into our life, my mom should be the buffer and should not be obligating me to interact with them.
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I hate the premise of memes

I understand that expressing one's disdain for memes is perhaps a highly peculiar thing to be doing on somewhere like an imageboard, which is completely antithetical to the whole experience, but hear me out for a second. You'd most definitely see a greater variety of thought provoking or genuinely funny memes (more OC too) thereby making the signal to noise ratio relatively high. But, in my view atleast, this has led to an incubation of a progressively elitist culture in various parts of the internet. This whole notion of "I know this funi imag and you dont!!" is propagated everywhere, from imageboards to fucking reddit. It's no longer a form of "art" like it used to be (in the sense that you could have a single image sum up an incredibly complex societal issue), but rather an "oopsie" (or whatever kids call it these days) that some faggot with millions of subscribers on youtube made (pewdiepie, however good a person he may be, is a perfect exemplification of this). More importantly, its the newest form of social signalling, and its prevalent absolutely everywhere on the internet, the blatantly contrarian or edgy for the sake of being edgy memes given the most priority.

It's most akin to the downfall of universities and academia as a whole. 30-40 years ago, universities truly were a place where one could educate themselves and feel comfortable in doing so in any school. Now it's all about where specifically you went, what sort of degrees you were doing (whether you enjoy it or not is irrelevant), etc. It's only purpose really is limited to social signalling now. If you want to educate yourself, you can do so off the internet very easily (like that dude who taught himself the MIT Computer Science & EE course in a year off the internet, OSSU, et al).
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High reliability Autism test

Anyone else never officially diagnosed with autism? Your RMET score is supposedly a strong predictor of autism. I thought most questions felt impossible but still didn't do as bad as I thought.

Also post your scores if you like.
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Hello wizchan, I have a visit with the state doctor in a few hours and I'm rather nervous about messing this up. I followed Uncle Remus guide last year, got myself admitted and I'm now diagnosed with schizophrenia and severe anxiety. It took awhile but now the fated appointment is here, this will decide if I'm free from work. How can I perfectly mimic a schizophrenic person at this interview?

- don't shake hands
- stare at the wall
- act very dumb, sluggish replies

Is there any other thing I should do? Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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What does Nofap and Super AI have in common?

A lot of Wizards hold to an EvoPsych, Sociobiological, Darwinian worldview. But then where does that leave us as Wizard virgins? The whole goal and point of this viewpoint is sexual reproduction.

Sexual pleasure is the highest reward circuitry of the mammal, theres no point denying it. But these brains weren't meant to cope with the challenge of streaming HD VR porn. And thats were NoFap comes in. Where you see all these normie and potential normie men. Men with wives and gfs. Who give all that up because porn is so much better than the reality. And they are so torn up about it. Because they should like 3d reality meatspace more, but their brains don't.

So in that sense we as Wizards can admit that sexual pleasure is the cookie jar reward of evolution, but we stole it without doing our homework first.

What does this have to do with Super AI? Because in the very very distant future, long past the Terminator Singularity stage, when Super AI has processed every atom in the universe. It will all serve one utilitarian function. To maximize the pleasure of a gazillion simulated minds. Theres no need for a story or history to get mind to orgasm. Just skip all that to the moment of pleasure and make it eternal, a gazillion times over. And that is what the universe will be. The final fulfillment of the utilitarian calculus. The maximization of pleasure without pain.

So to fap to HD porn is to benefit from the primitive reward circuitry of evolution, but it is also to disconnect the pleasure from story and effort and suffering and to see to the future of the universe of Super AI and the Orgasmium (also known as hedonium)


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someone give me a quick rundown on wizardly.fun
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disability wiz

I have depression and PTSD, about 2 years ago I was admitted into a psych hospital after a suicide attempt.

Now my parents are trying to get me to apply for disability, though I'm not sure how I could possibly go about doing that?

What are my chances of actually being given disability?
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Is paying attention the root of satisfaction?

Here's an experience everyone here has had:
distractedly watch a "good" movie - don't enjoy yourself
attentively watch a "bad" movie - enjoy yourself
This is extremely apparent when you watch a movie you didn't enjoy the first time while paying closer attention.

It seems anything that's satisfying is something you pay attention to. What is something that's satisfying that you don't focus on?

The question then becomes: is it possible to exploit this to our advantage? If we hyper-focus on our meaningless boring jobs, do they suddenly become satisfying? Is the goal in life to just have a clear mind about everything?

Another experience everyone has had:
thinking about past mistakes, embarrassing moments, etc.
worrying about future failures, pessimism, thinking about worst outcomes, etc.

If you analyze any given moment of your life it's not that bad. Almost all negative feelings come from thought and not focus.

Anyone reading this thinking that their life is shit right now, think about your current status, emphasis on current. Why is your life bad right now? Literally right now reading this post. Why is it bad? I can guarantee it's almost exclusively going to be about past / future thoughts. So your life isn't actually bad in the literal present.

I'd like for people to critique this base idea. I'd rather not talk about meditation specifically in this thread, I want to keep it more general. Do you agree with me or not?
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Psychology Thread INTJ Master Race

Most therapists are delusional normans, too trapped in their own complexes to help us. I google different forms of therapy and try them on myself. Most don't work, but they're fun.

4/5 Dream journal
I've done dream journaling and dream analysis to interpret my unconscious desires and fears.
At lest one dream a week tells me something new about myself. Most dreams are fluff.

Depth Psych
2/5 Build imaginary world where you imagine different parts of your personality as people and debate them. Most of you already do this without realizing it. Sometimes I get useful insight. Most of the time, my personalities tell me to "work harder" or "go to the gym". They're assholes.

MBTI Myers Briggs 2/5
More or less astrology. Take personality test. Get 4 letters. Different tests give different results. I'm INTJ/P. I used to go hiking every 2 or 3 days, after taking the MBTI, I embraced my INT nature and stayed indoors for a week straight.

CBT 1/5
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy or McTherapy is the second most popular psych scam after big pharma drugs. Suppress your natural emotions and thoughts with positive thoughts. Leave therapy cured. Wait a month for everything surpressed to explode. Go back to therapy. *rubs hands

Mindfulness CBT 2/5
The Whole Foods version of CBT. Mindfulness makes you calmer. Most of your problems are caused by other people (and systems that have not updated to the current world) so just thinking positive won't change the outside world.

What therapies have you tried?
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Is there any point to the universe?

Like does it have any real reason to exist? What really, is its sole reason of being? Without intelligent life, the universe doesn't have a chance in hell to make sense of itself.

Are there any popular theories out there? This is driving me crazy. I just think it's so easy for nonexistence to be the natural state of things, that the existence has to have a cause.
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How do you look back at the early 2000s now? Specifically the years 2001-2006?
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What is your opinion about having pets as a wizard? Do you think they help you or do you think they bother you?
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Tell me everything I need to know about night shift security.

I’m a wizard with the works, asocial schizoid beta whatever you want to call it. I don’t like to socialize and I am choosing a night watch job because of it. Tell me everything I need to know so I don’t make a mistake or take the wrong job.
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Well tonight is the night guys, I get my wizard status tomorrow. Wish me a happy birthday, maybe. I don't feel happy.

Any fellow wizard here? How do I soften the psychological blow of this meme becoming my waking reality.
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Parents and personal responsibility

I've been thinking about how I blame my parents for my lot in life. And yet at the same time the normie answer would be "you're a grown adult man, stop being a crying snowflake, and take responsibility for your own life".

Its a weird philosophical conundrum how we are individuals with our own personality, character, free will, and yet we are just robotic products of our parents' nature and nurture.

Usually we focus on the genetic determinism aspect of parents. How we are just robots for their selfish genes. But even if we look at the nurture and environmental side. Who does the nurturing? Who picks the socioeconomic environment for us? You look at the schools you go to, the values you are raised with, the quality of the neighborhood, your religion or lack of it. All choices of the parents. So basically all your environmental factors up to at least your teens and maybe beyond are the choice of your parents.

And yet society doesn't look kindly on a 30 year old man who says he can't function because he got dealt a bad hand from his parents.

To me it seems like life is mostly set in the genes. And to the extent there is an environmental influence at all that was also picked by the parents.

I don't relate to normies who are so loyal to their genes, and feel their purpose in life is to spread them. They don't feel like my property. To me it feels like my genes belong to my parents and I don't want to look out for them. My DNA has brought me nothing but misery. I look on my DNA as the enemy.

But of course there are many examples of children very different from their parents, who reject the values of their parents. Good parents with bad kids and vice versa.

Obviously parents can get very angry at their kids, especially when they are NEETing. And its not like they philosophically reflect "I'm just getting angry at my own nature and nurture"
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How strong is the immune system?

I am somewhat of a germaphobe but it's also coupled with lack of energy and money. So even thought I want to clean everything thoroughly and regularely I find it too exhausting. But I have yet to get sick (knock on wood) except a cold once in a while.

From time to time there are these articles that talk about how covered in germs everything is. For example about how dirty your keyboard is. I only wipe my keyboard like once in a while with a rubber alcohol cloth. I know I should disassemble it and clean each key but that sounds like a huge pain.

Another article talked about how flushing the toilet sprays germs everywhere. I leave my toothbrush uncovered and I only rinse it quickly before brushing. I saw that there are cases with UV light for toothbrushes but I can't just spend $100 on something like this if I don't know it's absolutely necessary.

I started carrying hand sanitizer but a long time before that I would eat a burger and fries without washing my hands and with no issues.

This make me wonder: have I just been lucky or is the immune system stronger than I thought even though I lead a sedentary lifestyle with a bad diet that doesn't strenghen it?