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I tend to agree with Socrates: “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”.
Exercise
Any wizzies here exercise? Whether calisthenics, weightlifting, cardiovascular, or other. Share the reasons why you do/don't exercise, what you do, etc..I tend to agree with Socrates: “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”.
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Is paying attention the root of satisfaction?
Here's an experience everyone here has had:
distractedly watch a "good" movie - don't enjoy yourself
attentively watch a "bad" movie - enjoy yourself
This is extremely apparent when you watch a movie you didn't enjoy the first time while paying closer attention.
It seems anything that's satisfying is something you pay attention to. What is something that's satisfying that you don't focus on?
The question then becomes: is it possible to exploit this to our advantage? If we hyper-focus on our meaningless boring jobs, do they suddenly become satisfying? Is the goal in life to just have a clear mind about everything?
Another experience everyone has had:
thinking about past mistakes, embarrassing moments, etc.
worrying about future failures, pessimism, thinking about worst outcomes, etc.
If you analyze any given moment of your life it's not that bad. Almost all negative feelings come from thought and not focus.
Anyone reading this thinking that their life is shit right now, think about your current status, emphasis on current. Why is your life bad right now? Literally right now reading this post. Why is it bad? I can guarantee it's almost exclusively going to be about past / future thoughts. So your life isn't actually bad in the literal present.
I'd like for people to critique this base idea. I'd rather not talk about meditation specifically in this thread, I want to keep it more general. Do you agree with me or not?
Is paying attention the root of satisfaction?
Here's an experience everyone here has had:
distractedly watch a "good" movie - don't enjoy yourself
attentively watch a "bad" movie - enjoy yourself
This is extremely apparent when you watch a movie you didn't enjoy the first time while paying closer attention.
It seems anything that's satisfying is something you pay attention to. What is something that's satisfying that you don't focus on?
The question then becomes: is it possible to exploit this to our advantage? If we hyper-focus on our meaningless boring jobs, do they suddenly become satisfying? Is the goal in life to just have a clear mind about everything?
Another experience everyone has had:
thinking about past mistakes, embarrassing moments, etc.
worrying about future failures, pessimism, thinking about worst outcomes, etc.
If you analyze any given moment of your life it's not that bad. Almost all negative feelings come from thought and not focus.
Anyone reading this thinking that their life is shit right now, think about your current status, emphasis on current. Why is your life bad right now? Literally right now reading this post. Why is it bad? I can guarantee it's almost exclusively going to be about past / future thoughts. So your life isn't actually bad in the literal present.
I'd like for people to critique this base idea. I'd rather not talk about meditation specifically in this thread, I want to keep it more general. Do you agree with me or not?
R: 5 / I: 1
4/5 Dream journal
I've done dream journaling and dream analysis to interpret my unconscious desires and fears.
At lest one dream a week tells me something new about myself. Most dreams are fluff.
Depth Psych
2/5 Build imaginary world where you imagine different parts of your personality as people and debate them. Most of you already do this without realizing it. Sometimes I get useful insight. Most of the time, my personalities tell me to "work harder" or "go to the gym". They're assholes.
MBTI Myers Briggs 2/5
More or less astrology. Take personality test. Get 4 letters. Different tests give different results. I'm INTJ/P. I used to go hiking every 2 or 3 days, after taking the MBTI, I embraced my INT nature and stayed indoors for a week straight.
CBT 1/5
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy or McTherapy is the second most popular psych scam after big pharma drugs. Suppress your natural emotions and thoughts with positive thoughts. Leave therapy cured. Wait a month for everything surpressed to explode. Go back to therapy. *rubs hands
Mindfulness CBT 2/5
The Whole Foods version of CBT. Mindfulness makes you calmer. Most of your problems are caused by other people (and systems that have not updated to the current world) so just thinking positive won't change the outside world.
What therapies have you tried?
Psychology Thread INTJ Master Race
Most therapists are delusional normans, too trapped in their own complexes to help us. I google different forms of therapy and try them on myself. Most don't work, but they're fun.4/5 Dream journal
I've done dream journaling and dream analysis to interpret my unconscious desires and fears.
At lest one dream a week tells me something new about myself. Most dreams are fluff.
Depth Psych
2/5 Build imaginary world where you imagine different parts of your personality as people and debate them. Most of you already do this without realizing it. Sometimes I get useful insight. Most of the time, my personalities tell me to "work harder" or "go to the gym". They're assholes.
MBTI Myers Briggs 2/5
More or less astrology. Take personality test. Get 4 letters. Different tests give different results. I'm INTJ/P. I used to go hiking every 2 or 3 days, after taking the MBTI, I embraced my INT nature and stayed indoors for a week straight.
CBT 1/5
Cognitive Behavioural Therapy or McTherapy is the second most popular psych scam after big pharma drugs. Suppress your natural emotions and thoughts with positive thoughts. Leave therapy cured. Wait a month for everything surpressed to explode. Go back to therapy. *rubs hands
Mindfulness CBT 2/5
The Whole Foods version of CBT. Mindfulness makes you calmer. Most of your problems are caused by other people (and systems that have not updated to the current world) so just thinking positive won't change the outside world.
What therapies have you tried?
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I wonder if I go to psychiatrist and I wont be quite honest to him. What would happen?
Would he find out that I m laying even if I would say logical things to him, or he wouldnt find out it?
Can psychiatrist know everything about from conversation with me?
Look, I ve never been to psychiatrist neither psychologist. But I know that something wrong with me, I know for sure that I had strong social phobia for many years and perhaps I may have aspergers syndrome and some kind of neurosis? Also I m introverted male. I ve never had any friend.I wonder if I go to psychiatrist and I wont be quite honest to him. What would happen?
Would he find out that I m laying even if I would say logical things to him, or he wouldnt find out it?
R: 1 / I: 0
I sleep 10 hours but want to sleep just 4 hours so I can have more time than normies to be productive.
My main issue is time to actually fall asleep.
Also I want to lucid dream and this method gives me 4 chances a night to lucid dream.
Polyphasic sleep
Has anyone tried the uberman or Everyman sleep schedule?I sleep 10 hours but want to sleep just 4 hours so I can have more time than normies to be productive.
My main issue is time to actually fall asleep.
Also I want to lucid dream and this method gives me 4 chances a night to lucid dream.
R: 1 / I: 0
I know that after she's been awake for more than five hours that I shouldn't leave my room, because she's completely drunk and will attack anyone walking by her. If she knocks on my door, I'll pretend that I'm asleep. It's not just her, it's a large part of that entire side of her family, and to some extent my grandfather on my father's side. Because of this, I completely abstained from alcohol, and I wonder how much it stunted me. Would I have actually been able to develop social skills in my 20s if I had gone out drinking?
Actually, not only have I completely abstained from alcohol, but sometimes I find myself reading about the prohibition era or watching films from that time just to root for the cops, or sometimes find myself wondering whether going somewhere where alcohol is prohibited would actually be better or not.
Teetotalers
My mother is a very heavy alcoholic. Someday a couple of years ago, I heard this weird gurgling and moaning, and I just found her sprawled out on the kitchen floor. She was conscious, but just so drunk that she could just barely even hold a conversation with me or even move. That's how much of an alcoholic she is.I know that after she's been awake for more than five hours that I shouldn't leave my room, because she's completely drunk and will attack anyone walking by her. If she knocks on my door, I'll pretend that I'm asleep. It's not just her, it's a large part of that entire side of her family, and to some extent my grandfather on my father's side. Because of this, I completely abstained from alcohol, and I wonder how much it stunted me. Would I have actually been able to develop social skills in my 20s if I had gone out drinking?
Actually, not only have I completely abstained from alcohol, but sometimes I find myself reading about the prohibition era or watching films from that time just to root for the cops, or sometimes find myself wondering whether going somewhere where alcohol is prohibited would actually be better or not.
R: 48 / I: 7
School
What was your school life like? Was it hell? I came close to dropping out like four times.
R: 46 / I: 6
Coffee gives me nausea. Caffeine pills just make me anxious. I asked my doctor for Modafinil but he told me that he can only prescribe it if I literally fall asleep uncontrollably. I hope you understand that I don't know any people and I also don't feel like dealing with sketchy people online.
So what legal methods are there to make yourself more awake?
Legal ways to get energy?
I feel so tired all the time. No matter how much sleep I get or how regular my sleep schedule is. Yes I checked for sleep apnea and any kind of deficiencies.Coffee gives me nausea. Caffeine pills just make me anxious. I asked my doctor for Modafinil but he told me that he can only prescribe it if I literally fall asleep uncontrollably. I hope you understand that I don't know any people and I also don't feel like dealing with sketchy people online.
So what legal methods are there to make yourself more awake?
R: 78 / I: 13
The truth is that the data coming back very recently, within the past few years or so has confirmed what climate scientists feared when we first found that methane levels were rapidly rising with no discernible cause: the arctic sea ice is melting and releasing trapped methane into the atmosphere.
Now if you don't know what that means, basically methane is like this evil carbon dioxide you hear so much about except a hundred times worse in terms of the amount of global warming it will cause. As the ice melts, two things start to happen that will result in a runaway rapid warming effect that will completely destroy the current peace and cause billions of deaths including the extinction of other species besides humans. The first is that the physical presence of the ice over a large area in the arctic acts like a kind of reflective mirror that helps reflect some of the energy coming in from the sun. With that melted, that light no longer gets reflected and instead absorbs onto the surface somewhere and radiates heat into the atmosphere. The second thing is that pockets of methane that are trapped in the ice shelf will release into the atmosphere. Both ice on land and in the sea contains large amounts of methane and any instability in that ice is game over and the ice has been destabilized. The last time we had a mass extinction, an event where over 95% of all species on earth went extinct, the cause was because of rapid increases in methane from the arctic ice melting. We're already seeing mass extinction happen with estimates of the current rate of extinction at about 1000 times higher than usual.
Most of our climate change models predicted a slow and steady linear increase in temperatures, but that's not what the data show is happening at all. The effects appeared slow and linear for a while, but now we're seeing a sudden acceleration that is corresponding to an exponential increase, not a linear increase in atmospheric methane levels that has been happening for over 10 years now. We fucked up. It's too late now to ever prevent large scale social collapse. There will be famine and drought and war, billions displaced and starving. No doubt there will be a revolution and the current order will fall.
Here is a good paper about this by a scientist who has dedicated his life to studying this issue. I encourage all of you to read it: https://www.lifeworth.com/deepadaptation.pdf
Now what does this mean for the depressed wizard who hates the current world? For me it means that there is hope that you can survive to see a new social order arise out of the ashes of our current society. Assuming you survive anyway. You can safely ignore the concerns of normies now knowing that they are in denial and are just wasting time while they still can. Any plans for the future need to be made with the knowledge that the future will be on fire and the things you rely on society for like food will no longer be guaranteed which makes the concerns of normies trivial and insignificant. We have to figure out how to live in a sustainable way like our ancestors did, assuming that's still possible in the new climate. Do not lose hope wizards, this era of bullshit wageslavery is almost at an end.
Hellfire is a comin'
Many of you despair at the state of the world and modern consumerism society, but I am here to tell you not to fear because the world that you hate so much is about to end.The truth is that the data coming back very recently, within the past few years or so has confirmed what climate scientists feared when we first found that methane levels were rapidly rising with no discernible cause: the arctic sea ice is melting and releasing trapped methane into the atmosphere.
Now if you don't know what that means, basically methane is like this evil carbon dioxide you hear so much about except a hundred times worse in terms of the amount of global warming it will cause. As the ice melts, two things start to happen that will result in a runaway rapid warming effect that will completely destroy the current peace and cause billions of deaths including the extinction of other species besides humans. The first is that the physical presence of the ice over a large area in the arctic acts like a kind of reflective mirror that helps reflect some of the energy coming in from the sun. With that melted, that light no longer gets reflected and instead absorbs onto the surface somewhere and radiates heat into the atmosphere. The second thing is that pockets of methane that are trapped in the ice shelf will release into the atmosphere. Both ice on land and in the sea contains large amounts of methane and any instability in that ice is game over and the ice has been destabilized. The last time we had a mass extinction, an event where over 95% of all species on earth went extinct, the cause was because of rapid increases in methane from the arctic ice melting. We're already seeing mass extinction happen with estimates of the current rate of extinction at about 1000 times higher than usual.
Most of our climate change models predicted a slow and steady linear increase in temperatures, but that's not what the data show is happening at all. The effects appeared slow and linear for a while, but now we're seeing a sudden acceleration that is corresponding to an exponential increase, not a linear increase in atmospheric methane levels that has been happening for over 10 years now. We fucked up. It's too late now to ever prevent large scale social collapse. There will be famine and drought and war, billions displaced and starving. No doubt there will be a revolution and the current order will fall.
Here is a good paper about this by a scientist who has dedicated his life to studying this issue. I encourage all of you to read it: https://www.lifeworth.com/deepadaptation.pdf
Now what does this mean for the depressed wizard who hates the current world? For me it means that there is hope that you can survive to see a new social order arise out of the ashes of our current society. Assuming you survive anyway. You can safely ignore the concerns of normies now knowing that they are in denial and are just wasting time while they still can. Any plans for the future need to be made with the knowledge that the future will be on fire and the things you rely on society for like food will no longer be guaranteed which makes the concerns of normies trivial and insignificant. We have to figure out how to live in a sustainable way like our ancestors did, assuming that's still possible in the new climate. Do not lose hope wizards, this era of bullshit wageslavery is almost at an end.
R: 79 / I: 3
Its just seems like the cringe lolcow role of the internet, is basically like being the local clownish celebrity that I spent my whole school years being. Its a way to turn the strange weirdness into a commodity. I see folks who are less weird and less comedic getting audiences of millions. Maybe I could do it. Although I have the flaw of speaking in a way thats so cringey its boring, rather than so cringey its hilarious. But it just seems like my old weirdo class clown cartooning but with an audience of millions. Maybe it was my calling.
And then some of these guys actually make money on this shit through youtube ads and patreon, being a cringe is literally their full time career.
Have you ever thought about becoming a lolcow cringe comedy character?
I know most people would ask why would anyone want to be a laughing stock town fool of the internet? But way back to childhood days, the only options I ever had were to be an ignored quiet mouse or a loud wacky cartoonish entertainment monkey. Mouse or Monkey thats it. And so I became a local celebrity of my school days. Sometimes I would get resentful that they were laughing at me, not with me, mocking me, teasing making fun. Like the lolcows of the internet. But after trying to be serious in college, and just being totally ignored, I realized that attention beats isolation, and its the only means of socialization I know. For the last few years I've retreated back into my mouse role, and have had almost no human contact.Its just seems like the cringe lolcow role of the internet, is basically like being the local clownish celebrity that I spent my whole school years being. Its a way to turn the strange weirdness into a commodity. I see folks who are less weird and less comedic getting audiences of millions. Maybe I could do it. Although I have the flaw of speaking in a way thats so cringey its boring, rather than so cringey its hilarious. But it just seems like my old weirdo class clown cartooning but with an audience of millions. Maybe it was my calling.
And then some of these guys actually make money on this shit through youtube ads and patreon, being a cringe is literally their full time career.
R: 40 / I: 7
Are there any popular theories out there? This is driving me crazy. I just think it's so easy for nonexistence to be the natural state of things, that the existence has to have a cause.
Is there any point to the universe?
Like does it have any real reason to exist? What really, is its sole reason of being? Without intelligent life, the universe doesn't have a chance in hell to make sense of itself.Are there any popular theories out there? This is driving me crazy. I just think it's so easy for nonexistence to be the natural state of things, that the existence has to have a cause.
R: 22 / I: 4
A bit of history: When I was a year old I suffered from a seizure that delayed my ability to articulate speech until the age of 7. My mother told me that when I was 5 I could only speak a couple of words. I was in speech classes in school up all the way to 6th grade.
How does one improve speech?
Inability to speak well
Does anyone else suffer from this issue? It seems to me that I have trouble constructing sentences when I am talking to people in real life, and even I get my words mixed up when I talk to myself on camera (I make video journals for myself). The issue gets worse when I argue with someone and my words get slurred. I am jealous of people who can quickly form sentences while I need sometime to make up those sentences. I see these same people who can make fluid conversation and I sometimes wonder if there is something wrong with me. It's like they know instantly what to say and how to say it.A bit of history: When I was a year old I suffered from a seizure that delayed my ability to articulate speech until the age of 7. My mother told me that when I was 5 I could only speak a couple of words. I was in speech classes in school up all the way to 6th grade.
How does one improve speech?
R: 29 / I: 1
Ordering things online
Does anyone on here order things online? Does anyone use amazon? I always wanted to try an Amazon gift card online but never got around to it.
R: 6 / I: 0
I'm not dealing with this yet but my parents are old and unhealthy. I know I need to plan ahead. I'm autistic and I can't stand when unexpected things happen, so I need to game out various scenarios in my mind before they happen. It is likely that my father will perish first and that my mother will eventually need some sort of nursing home.
I'm very interested in hearing the experiences of other wizards relating to this topic. I'd imagine that there are others here who are interested as well.
Death of Parents or Other Relatives
Can we have a thread where we discuss the death of our parents or other significant relatives? Please make a post in this thread about your experience dealing with the death of a parent or other relative. What advice do you have for other wizards? How did you handle things like funeral arrangements, sorting things out with other family, finances, inheritance, housing, nursing homes, hospice care, insurance, or emotional issues. How did your other family members handle any of these things?I'm not dealing with this yet but my parents are old and unhealthy. I know I need to plan ahead. I'm autistic and I can't stand when unexpected things happen, so I need to game out various scenarios in my mind before they happen. It is likely that my father will perish first and that my mother will eventually need some sort of nursing home.
I'm very interested in hearing the experiences of other wizards relating to this topic. I'd imagine that there are others here who are interested as well.
R: 149 / I: 22
How do you look back at the early 2000s now? Specifically the years 2001-2006?
How do you look back at the early 2000s now? Specifically the years 2001-2006?
R: 36 / I: 0
Psychiatrics gave me antipsychotics drugs with a needle in my ass.
I'm out of hospital right now but I have a mandatory case who said if I don't get the needle every three weeks, cops come to me and put me back in asylum.
I've met the judge twice but he says I'm mad…
There are more than 100.000 people every years put through strength in mental asylum each year in France. Doctors says everyone of those is insane, they says 12.000.000 people have mental disease in France.
Psychiatry
Hi, I'm a 27yo french neet wizard who've been put in mental asylum by his father two years ago.Psychiatrics gave me antipsychotics drugs with a needle in my ass.
I'm out of hospital right now but I have a mandatory case who said if I don't get the needle every three weeks, cops come to me and put me back in asylum.
I've met the judge twice but he says I'm mad…
There are more than 100.000 people every years put through strength in mental asylum each year in France. Doctors says everyone of those is insane, they says 12.000.000 people have mental disease in France.
R: 183 / I: 21
so what do you do all day? are you like me? i get up in the morning and get on the computer until sun down. i have been doing this for more than a decade. i spent my entire 20s on the internet
so what do you do all day? are you like me? i get up in the morning and get on the computer until sun down. i have been doing this for more than a decade. i spent my entire 20s on the internet
R: 45 / I: 4
I have an uncle who is clearly a sperg, he doesn't do eye contact, he stims and flaps his hands, he isn't social and ignores his family (except me because he's known me since I was a kid).
Although unlike wizards he is obsessed with programming and hobbyist technology (soldering etc), he has a GitHub at 65 years old and his job is repairing commercial refrigerators. Anyways, do you have any family members who you suspect are wizards?
Genetics
I'm wondering how much of our condition is genetic.I have an uncle who is clearly a sperg, he doesn't do eye contact, he stims and flaps his hands, he isn't social and ignores his family (except me because he's known me since I was a kid).
Although unlike wizards he is obsessed with programming and hobbyist technology (soldering etc), he has a GitHub at 65 years old and his job is repairing commercial refrigerators. Anyways, do you have any family members who you suspect are wizards?
R: 53 / I: 9
As a teen I used to have very creative fantasies about my future adult life. They were so detailed, that it would have been almost a disappointment if they came true, a deja vu, rerun. Now that I'm an adult, most of my fantasies are about redoing life right. Although even with a magic time machine, it seems like every turn is a wrong one. I get into a lot of detail with my schizoid couldabeen watif fantasies. Even looking up Archive.org pages from 2006 of colleges I could have went to.
Lately my main fantasy has been over being a scholastic professor of medieval metaphysics. My main interests are philosophy and history. And some of my watifs revolve around being a high school history teacher or college philosophy professor. Getting paid to talk about my favorite subject is awesome. But babysitting hormonal American teenagers is hell for even normies. And a larger problem of devoting my life to secular philosophy, is I study the ontology of Hegel or Heidegger just saying Being Being Being all day. And then at 70 I wonder what the point of it all was. As a Scholastic saying God God God all day, at least there is a point.
In my fantasy, in 9th grade just when I was getting into Calvin, Cromwell, Charlemagne, I instead get into St. Benedict as the ideal community. And read everything I can on Monks and the other Catholic orders. I remember reading HG Well's Outline of History, and being inspired by his description of Ignatius of the Jesuits. How he had been a soldier, but then seen the light, and devoted this military virtues to instead serving God as a volcel. So then I convert to Catholicism in college, go to this college near me that specializes in Continental Philosophy, get my BA and Phd. Become a Jesuit or Dominican. Devote myself to the abstractions of medieval ontology. With any ideology or worldview, with me it starts with the praxis of the ideal community, but I quickly float upward to the most abstract metaphysics. Its the same categories I study in modern secular philosophy but with medieval scholastic volcels. Essence-Existence, Form-Content, Abstract-Concrete, Potentiality-Actuality, Cause-Effect, Substance-Accident, Quantity-Quality, Universal-Particular, One-Many.
Just living among my volcel brotherhood of Dominicans, reading and writing, getting into the intricacies of medieval metaphysics. Henry of Ghent and Duns Scotus being my companions and arguments, instead of this modern world. I could be living in 1300 and it wouldn't make a difference, because I'm just pure mind. The words on paper have more reality than the world around me. Yes this was the life I was meant for. I want to be a volcel. I held volcel values a decade before I found Wizchan. But I don't know how to live within the world with my values or to find a community of values outside the normie mainstream. I was between a rock and a hard place. Can't live by my values, can't live by their values, can't live at all. If only I had become a medieval scholastic. Thats what I was meant to be. Aspects of the Catholic Church were a stumbling block to me. But what do I know about right and wrong? The only morality is celibacy, and the RCC is the sole volcel institution of the West. Thats the only ethics I needed. And from the volcel praxis to the Thomist ontology. Logic-chopping how many angels can dance on a pin. So removed from this darwinian universe. Just talking to God about metaphysics all day.
My fantasy dreamlife as a Medieval Scholastic theologian
We've had a lot of discussions about Monks, and I certainly understand the appeal of being physically separated from the normie world in an isolated group-hermit community of fellow volcel men. But I'm not sure if I'm suited for the laboring aspects of it, picking potatoes. And so while I started out with monks as my ideal community, I started looking into the more academic side. It was actually right here on Wizchan, in one of the Monk threads, were a Wiz in Missouri mentioned there was a monastery very near him. And then I did some research on it and found out it was also a Seminary. And that seemed like the idea for me, combining Benedictine community with academic scholarship. And so I realized I was more interested in the scholastic aspect. So I started looking into other orders like Franciscans, Dominicans, Jesuits.As a teen I used to have very creative fantasies about my future adult life. They were so detailed, that it would have been almost a disappointment if they came true, a deja vu, rerun. Now that I'm an adult, most of my fantasies are about redoing life right. Although even with a magic time machine, it seems like every turn is a wrong one. I get into a lot of detail with my schizoid couldabeen watif fantasies. Even looking up Archive.org pages from 2006 of colleges I could have went to.
Lately my main fantasy has been over being a scholastic professor of medieval metaphysics. My main interests are philosophy and history. And some of my watifs revolve around being a high school history teacher or college philosophy professor. Getting paid to talk about my favorite subject is awesome. But babysitting hormonal American teenagers is hell for even normies. And a larger problem of devoting my life to secular philosophy, is I study the ontology of Hegel or Heidegger just saying Being Being Being all day. And then at 70 I wonder what the point of it all was. As a Scholastic saying God God God all day, at least there is a point.
In my fantasy, in 9th grade just when I was getting into Calvin, Cromwell, Charlemagne, I instead get into St. Benedict as the ideal community. And read everything I can on Monks and the other Catholic orders. I remember reading HG Well's Outline of History, and being inspired by his description of Ignatius of the Jesuits. How he had been a soldier, but then seen the light, and devoted this military virtues to instead serving God as a volcel. So then I convert to Catholicism in college, go to this college near me that specializes in Continental Philosophy, get my BA and Phd. Become a Jesuit or Dominican. Devote myself to the abstractions of medieval ontology. With any ideology or worldview, with me it starts with the praxis of the ideal community, but I quickly float upward to the most abstract metaphysics. Its the same categories I study in modern secular philosophy but with medieval scholastic volcels. Essence-Existence, Form-Content, Abstract-Concrete, Potentiality-Actuality, Cause-Effect, Substance-Accident, Quantity-Quality, Universal-Particular, One-Many.
Just living among my volcel brotherhood of Dominicans, reading and writing, getting into the intricacies of medieval metaphysics. Henry of Ghent and Duns Scotus being my companions and arguments, instead of this modern world. I could be living in 1300 and it wouldn't make a difference, because I'm just pure mind. The words on paper have more reality than the world around me. Yes this was the life I was meant for. I want to be a volcel. I held volcel values a decade before I found Wizchan. But I don't know how to live within the world with my values or to find a community of values outside the normie mainstream. I was between a rock and a hard place. Can't live by my values, can't live by their values, can't live at all. If only I had become a medieval scholastic. Thats what I was meant to be. Aspects of the Catholic Church were a stumbling block to me. But what do I know about right and wrong? The only morality is celibacy, and the RCC is the sole volcel institution of the West. Thats the only ethics I needed. And from the volcel praxis to the Thomist ontology. Logic-chopping how many angels can dance on a pin. So removed from this darwinian universe. Just talking to God about metaphysics all day.
R: 6 / I: 1
I've found that I relate to older people more, maybe its because I'm lost in the past and more interested in their century than our own. Or maybe because I'm a person of the mind not body, I relate to people whose physical side has worn itself out.
They are the only ones still alive who care about my aspie interests, the books and magazines I want to read at the library are only checked out by seniors.
I've never went to any events specifically for seniors, but I find that everything that I show up for from the Church to activism to discussion groups are always filled with older people, with not just me, but even my dads' age being the youngest one there.
But lately there hasn't been much going on in my town. And I was thinking of volunteering at the senior center. Give me something to do. Do a good deed. And maybe get a little human interaction in a non-normie way.
Volunteering with senior citizens
Way back when I was in middle school and we had to do volunteering, the principal suggested given my interest in WW2, I might like volunteering at the senior center. I was sour on it at the time, but actually it makes a lot of sense.I've found that I relate to older people more, maybe its because I'm lost in the past and more interested in their century than our own. Or maybe because I'm a person of the mind not body, I relate to people whose physical side has worn itself out.
They are the only ones still alive who care about my aspie interests, the books and magazines I want to read at the library are only checked out by seniors.
I've never went to any events specifically for seniors, but I find that everything that I show up for from the Church to activism to discussion groups are always filled with older people, with not just me, but even my dads' age being the youngest one there.
But lately there hasn't been much going on in my town. And I was thinking of volunteering at the senior center. Give me something to do. Do a good deed. And maybe get a little human interaction in a non-normie way.
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Here's some to begin with:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmecs - Earliest known major civilization in Mesoamerica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_D%C3%B3zsa - Man-at-arms from Transylvania, Kingdom of Hungary who led a peasants' revolt against the kingdom's landed nobility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis - Saint who's always portrayed holding his decapitated head.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montague_Summers - Clergyman who authored works about the occult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyakumonogatari_Kaidankai - Interesting parlor game involving samurais and ghost stories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girolamo_Segato - Man behind a lost study on petrification of cadavers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_chain_of_being - Interesting theological concept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus-eaters - A whole race of people sleeping in peaceful apathy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sworn_Book_of_Honorius - Medieval Grimoire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aergia - Goddess of NEETS and Hikis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acedia - a state of listlessness or torpor, of not caring or not being concerned with one's position or condition in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice - Good article, title says it all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzompantli - a type of wooden rack or palisade used for the public display of human skulls.
Wikipedia Articles
Let's have another one of these. Share interesting Wikipedia articles you've come across. Let's keep reading everything about the world to keep the world (and boredom) at bay. A small description about what you're posting is nice but not necessary.Here's some to begin with:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olmecs - Earliest known major civilization in Mesoamerica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gy%C3%B6rgy_D%C3%B3zsa - Man-at-arms from Transylvania, Kingdom of Hungary who led a peasants' revolt against the kingdom's landed nobility.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis - Saint who's always portrayed holding his decapitated head.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montague_Summers - Clergyman who authored works about the occult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyakumonogatari_Kaidankai - Interesting parlor game involving samurais and ghost stories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girolamo_Segato - Man behind a lost study on petrification of cadavers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_chain_of_being - Interesting theological concept.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus-eaters - A whole race of people sleeping in peaceful apathy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sworn_Book_of_Honorius - Medieval Grimoire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aergia - Goddess of NEETS and Hikis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acedia - a state of listlessness or torpor, of not caring or not being concerned with one's position or condition in the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice - Good article, title says it all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzompantli - a type of wooden rack or palisade used for the public display of human skulls.
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After innumerable embarrassing incidents caused by my drinking which I can get into later I really want to stop now. I'm five days sober so far. I enjoy alcohol too much as it liberates me from any unpleasant emotion I may have and makes me feel great, so once I start I want to keep going until I black out.
Getting a nice buzz and stopping is impossible for me as I fundamentally dislike the world and being me so I have to push the escape to the furthest it can go everytime. Becoming sober isn't about some self-improvement thing for me and I'm not under the illusion that it could make me happier, I still will most likely will end it all at some point but the not knowing what's going to happen everytime I drink can't go on.
I figured I need to use any resources out there to prevent a relapse from happening again, so I looked into AA or various online support communities but I suspect they're going to be full of normies. Feel free to share what made you decide to become sober from drugs or alcohol, how long you've made it and tips for staying sober.
Sobriety General
Anyone up for a wizard sobriety support thread?After innumerable embarrassing incidents caused by my drinking which I can get into later I really want to stop now. I'm five days sober so far. I enjoy alcohol too much as it liberates me from any unpleasant emotion I may have and makes me feel great, so once I start I want to keep going until I black out.
Getting a nice buzz and stopping is impossible for me as I fundamentally dislike the world and being me so I have to push the escape to the furthest it can go everytime. Becoming sober isn't about some self-improvement thing for me and I'm not under the illusion that it could make me happier, I still will most likely will end it all at some point but the not knowing what's going to happen everytime I drink can't go on.
I figured I need to use any resources out there to prevent a relapse from happening again, so I looked into AA or various online support communities but I suspect they're going to be full of normies. Feel free to share what made you decide to become sober from drugs or alcohol, how long you've made it and tips for staying sober.
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Since then I've not been able to forget your experiences and I've thought about them everyday and have wanted to replicate them. I wonder if you're still around wizzie. Anyway, you might remember how I mentioned that I wanted to follow in your steps. Well, I didn't do it. But I'm starting to plan again, and I think I will do it this year.
Are you still out there Japan wiz?
Homeless Japan Wiz
I made a couple threads about a year ago on homelessness, drifting, and vagabond traveling. A wiz that homeless traveled through Japan recounted his travels in those threads.Since then I've not been able to forget your experiences and I've thought about them everyday and have wanted to replicate them. I wonder if you're still around wizzie. Anyway, you might remember how I mentioned that I wanted to follow in your steps. Well, I didn't do it. But I'm starting to plan again, and I think I will do it this year.
Are you still out there Japan wiz?
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The reason I'm asking is because I tried to do just that for the past few years. At first, anything that looked like a succubus or her certain body part would make me hard. But after reading some biology books, watching a few documentaries and through my sheer power of will I successfully managed to make myself not attracted to succubus boobs, 3d and 2d. They don't evoke any kind of response from me anymore, so it's definitely possible to "change" your sexuality and what you're attracted to. I still feel attraction to ass and wide hips and I'm working on that. If any of you guys successfully managed to stop being attracted to ass, please let me know how you did it.
Wouldn't it be nice to not feel any sexual attraction to succubi at all?
Forced Asexuality
Have any of you guys tried "forcing" yourself to become asexual? People on quora (https://www.quora.com/Can-you-become-asexual-by-trying) say that you're born asexual, just like you're born gay, lesbian, trans etc. and that you can't make yourself change your sexuality by you power of will.they also say that being asexual is a hassle in this oversexualised society, but wizards prefer a solitary lifestyle away from society, so it's not a problem for us, right?The reason I'm asking is because I tried to do just that for the past few years. At first, anything that looked like a succubus or her certain body part would make me hard. But after reading some biology books, watching a few documentaries and through my sheer power of will I successfully managed to make myself not attracted to succubus boobs, 3d and 2d. They don't evoke any kind of response from me anymore, so it's definitely possible to "change" your sexuality and what you're attracted to. I still feel attraction to ass and wide hips and I'm working on that. If any of you guys successfully managed to stop being attracted to ass, please let me know how you did it.
Wouldn't it be nice to not feel any sexual attraction to succubi at all?
R: 25 / I: 3
Pets
What is your opinion about having pets as a wizard? Do you think they help you or do you think they bother you?
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Kaczynski is the only relevant thinker of the last 50 years. Anyone dodging the technological question is a coward. What good does theory bring if it ignores the basic values and fundaments of our society?How is knowing how power operates or whether or not equality is something to strive for important when the basis for life - AIR, WATER, WEATHER etc.. and 'social' aspects such as human decency - is at stake? The future is bleak. It's either a full blown environmental cataclysm, nuclear warfare, humans gets replaced by machines, humans get re-engineered to fit in the ever complexifying, ever dehumanizing system… You get the gist.
Or it's all of this. Or it's something completely unpredictable, which is how technology works. We make discoveries, and we spend the next hundreds of years trying to fix the problems caused by whichever new technology appeared.
Technology causes a water drought. So we create more technology to solve it (In reality, no one can plan a discovery. If we're lucky we discover something to buy us a few more years) But then the newer technology causes more problems that requires more technology to solve.
It's a never ending race.
Kaczynski's works don't stop with ISaiF, his other books are incredibly insightful too.
Kaczynski is the only relevant thinker of the last 50 years. Anyone dodging the technological question is a coward. What good does theory bring if it ignores the basic values and fundaments of our society?How is knowing how power operates or whether or not equality is something to strive for important when the basis for life - AIR, WATER, WEATHER etc.. and 'social' aspects such as human decency - is at stake? The future is bleak. It's either a full blown environmental cataclysm, nuclear warfare, humans gets replaced by machines, humans get re-engineered to fit in the ever complexifying, ever dehumanizing system… You get the gist.
Or it's all of this. Or it's something completely unpredictable, which is how technology works. We make discoveries, and we spend the next hundreds of years trying to fix the problems caused by whichever new technology appeared.
Technology causes a water drought. So we create more technology to solve it (In reality, no one can plan a discovery. If we're lucky we discover something to buy us a few more years) But then the newer technology causes more problems that requires more technology to solve.
It's a never ending race.
Kaczynski's works don't stop with ISaiF, his other books are incredibly insightful too.
R: 73 / I: 6
people over 20, how do you still manage to enjoy imageboards when more than 90% of the population is obviously underage or just slightly above the threshold? do you even realize that you're trying to have a discourse about life with people who never had to deal with anything more complicated than math homework? are there actually any people here over 20 who enjoy staying here because you can relate to what is being said here and other wizards and not because it's just habit for you and you feel like you have nowhere else to go?
people over 20, how do you still manage to enjoy imageboards when more than 90% of the population is obviously underage or just slightly above the threshold? do you even realize that you're trying to have a discourse about life with people who never had to deal with anything more complicated than math homework? are there actually any people here over 20 who enjoy staying here because you can relate to what is being said here and other wizards and not because it's just habit for you and you feel like you have nowhere else to go?
R: 7 / I: 0
I live in a major city that receives a large amount of tourists all year around. These people don't have any shame and will stop anyone on their tracks to ask how to reach some tourist spot. I'd like to evade these encounters and I thought a wiz beard might keep them away.
Problem is that I'm disgusted by filthiness, a beard is another thing to take care of, and since it's so close to the mouth, I'm guessing it gets dirty easily.
the wizard beard
Wizards are always despicted with huge beards in media. Anyone here has experience growing one?I live in a major city that receives a large amount of tourists all year around. These people don't have any shame and will stop anyone on their tracks to ask how to reach some tourist spot. I'd like to evade these encounters and I thought a wiz beard might keep them away.
Problem is that I'm disgusted by filthiness, a beard is another thing to take care of, and since it's so close to the mouth, I'm guessing it gets dirty easily.
R: 29 / I: 1
Tell me everything I need to know about night shift security.
I’m a wizard with the works, asocial schizoid beta whatever you want to call it. I don’t like to socialize and I am choosing a night watch job because of it. Tell me everything I need to know so I don’t make a mistake or take the wrong job.
Tell me everything I need to know about night shift security.
I’m a wizard with the works, asocial schizoid beta whatever you want to call it. I don’t like to socialize and I am choosing a night watch job because of it. Tell me everything I need to know so I don’t make a mistake or take the wrong job.
R: 32 / I: 2
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:488eb9134190440bbf1e77929754321c85a24c72&dn=The+All-Embracing+Library&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80&tr=udp://open.demonii.com:1337
It has only one seeder left right now. Used to be many more months ago. Would you kindly share this torrent on places like demonoid, piratebay and other imageboards too? That would be good.
The All-Embracing Library
Size 177.96GB. I dare to say contains among the best books of their fields and are supposed not to repeat. It is a extremely well ordered collection by topic, and if you compare the size you soon see its value. Topics range from mathematics, physics, psychology, self improvement, survivalism, the best science fiction and fantasy literature, comics, magazines, and more. Magazines takes about 75 GB and there are many youtube videos, documentaries and conferences so you can exclude these if you want to. All books combined takes about 40 GB or so. But i really recommend downloading other stuff too since you can't really find it somewhere else easily. Did I mention is well sorted and contains only the best books?magnet:?xt=urn:btih:488eb9134190440bbf1e77929754321c85a24c72&dn=The+All-Embracing+Library&tr=udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80&tr=udp://open.demonii.com:1337
It has only one seeder left right now. Used to be many more months ago. Would you kindly share this torrent on places like demonoid, piratebay and other imageboards too? That would be good.
R: 11 / I: 4
Well tonight is the night guys, I get my wizard status tomorrow. Wish me a happy birthday, maybe. I don't feel happy.
Any fellow wizard here? How do I soften the psychological blow of this meme becoming my waking reality.
Well tonight is the night guys, I get my wizard status tomorrow. Wish me a happy birthday, maybe. I don't feel happy.
Any fellow wizard here? How do I soften the psychological blow of this meme becoming my waking reality.
R: 128 / I: 15
How much do you get per month, and what is the standard of living like? Also, what are the financial requirements, such as maximum assets allowed, or required attempts to gain employment?
I'm sure I could get on disability with a good lawyer, but I am reluctant to do so yet due to the time and money required to prove I have autism and drag it through court, and am worried that they'll just put me in a shithole apartment in a shithole neighborhood, can't have more then $2000 saved and only afford shit quality food. If that's the case then I'd just stay with my parents and ride it out 'till the wheels fall off.
NEETbux, Autismbux, Gibs etc.
Does anyone here in the USA have food, housing and money provided to them by the government due to a successful disability claim?How much do you get per month, and what is the standard of living like? Also, what are the financial requirements, such as maximum assets allowed, or required attempts to gain employment?
I'm sure I could get on disability with a good lawyer, but I am reluctant to do so yet due to the time and money required to prove I have autism and drag it through court, and am worried that they'll just put me in a shithole apartment in a shithole neighborhood, can't have more then $2000 saved and only afford shit quality food. If that's the case then I'd just stay with my parents and ride it out 'till the wheels fall off.
R: 56 / I: 12
Its a weird philosophical conundrum how we are individuals with our own personality, character, free will, and yet we are just robotic products of our parents' nature and nurture.
Usually we focus on the genetic determinism aspect of parents. How we are just robots for their selfish genes. But even if we look at the nurture and environmental side. Who does the nurturing? Who picks the socioeconomic environment for us? You look at the schools you go to, the values you are raised with, the quality of the neighborhood, your religion or lack of it. All choices of the parents. So basically all your environmental factors up to at least your teens and maybe beyond are the choice of your parents.
And yet society doesn't look kindly on a 30 year old man who says he can't function because he got dealt a bad hand from his parents.
To me it seems like life is mostly set in the genes. And to the extent there is an environmental influence at all that was also picked by the parents.
I don't relate to normies who are so loyal to their genes, and feel their purpose in life is to spread them. They don't feel like my property. To me it feels like my genes belong to my parents and I don't want to look out for them. My DNA has brought me nothing but misery. I look on my DNA as the enemy.
But of course there are many examples of children very different from their parents, who reject the values of their parents. Good parents with bad kids and vice versa.
Obviously parents can get very angry at their kids, especially when they are NEETing. And its not like they philosophically reflect "I'm just getting angry at my own nature and nurture"
Parents and personal responsibility
I've been thinking about how I blame my parents for my lot in life. And yet at the same time the normie answer would be "you're a grown adult man, stop being a crying snowflake, and take responsibility for your own life".Its a weird philosophical conundrum how we are individuals with our own personality, character, free will, and yet we are just robotic products of our parents' nature and nurture.
Usually we focus on the genetic determinism aspect of parents. How we are just robots for their selfish genes. But even if we look at the nurture and environmental side. Who does the nurturing? Who picks the socioeconomic environment for us? You look at the schools you go to, the values you are raised with, the quality of the neighborhood, your religion or lack of it. All choices of the parents. So basically all your environmental factors up to at least your teens and maybe beyond are the choice of your parents.
And yet society doesn't look kindly on a 30 year old man who says he can't function because he got dealt a bad hand from his parents.
To me it seems like life is mostly set in the genes. And to the extent there is an environmental influence at all that was also picked by the parents.
I don't relate to normies who are so loyal to their genes, and feel their purpose in life is to spread them. They don't feel like my property. To me it feels like my genes belong to my parents and I don't want to look out for them. My DNA has brought me nothing but misery. I look on my DNA as the enemy.
But of course there are many examples of children very different from their parents, who reject the values of their parents. Good parents with bad kids and vice versa.
Obviously parents can get very angry at their kids, especially when they are NEETing. And its not like they philosophically reflect "I'm just getting angry at my own nature and nurture"
R: 46 / I: 3
How would you reset your brain ?
Depressed, tinnitus, eczema, fear of death and obsessions … all appeared fairly at the same time, while a part is for sure due to my genetic predispositions and my poor way of living, I wonder if psychedelics,lucid dreams and such could help me ?
Any thoughts or stories are welcomed, even if it's bro-science, if you have some cool science papers to share or if you think it is useless
How would you reset your brain ?
Depressed, tinnitus, eczema, fear of death and obsessions … all appeared fairly at the same time, while a part is for sure due to my genetic predispositions and my poor way of living, I wonder if psychedelics,lucid dreams and such could help me ?
Any thoughts or stories are welcomed, even if it's bro-science, if you have some cool science papers to share or if you think it is useless
R: 10 / I: 2
From time to time there are these articles that talk about how covered in germs everything is. For example about how dirty your keyboard is. I only wipe my keyboard like once in a while with a rubber alcohol cloth. I know I should disassemble it and clean each key but that sounds like a huge pain.
Another article talked about how flushing the toilet sprays germs everywhere. I leave my toothbrush uncovered and I only rinse it quickly before brushing. I saw that there are cases with UV light for toothbrushes but I can't just spend $100 on something like this if I don't know it's absolutely necessary.
I started carrying hand sanitizer but a long time before that I would eat a burger and fries without washing my hands and with no issues.
This make me wonder: have I just been lucky or is the immune system stronger than I thought even though I lead a sedentary lifestyle with a bad diet that doesn't strenghen it?
How strong is the immune system?
I am somewhat of a germaphobe but it's also coupled with lack of energy and money. So even thought I want to clean everything thoroughly and regularely I find it too exhausting. But I have yet to get sick (knock on wood) except a cold once in a while.From time to time there are these articles that talk about how covered in germs everything is. For example about how dirty your keyboard is. I only wipe my keyboard like once in a while with a rubber alcohol cloth. I know I should disassemble it and clean each key but that sounds like a huge pain.
Another article talked about how flushing the toilet sprays germs everywhere. I leave my toothbrush uncovered and I only rinse it quickly before brushing. I saw that there are cases with UV light for toothbrushes but I can't just spend $100 on something like this if I don't know it's absolutely necessary.
I started carrying hand sanitizer but a long time before that I would eat a burger and fries without washing my hands and with no issues.
This make me wonder: have I just been lucky or is the immune system stronger than I thought even though I lead a sedentary lifestyle with a bad diet that doesn't strenghen it?
R: 29 / I: 1
>turned 30
>virgin, never had a girlfriend or come even close
>no education
>just started uni as my last effort at any kind of life
>anxious as hell about starting uni 10 years too late
>see no meaning in my life, haven't enjoyed life in as long as I can remember
>you can't relate to any other human being
>everyone you ever talk to seems like a privileged NPC robot incapable of comprehending where you come from
New here
Someone recommended this to me on r9k. How do you guys like my stats?>turned 30
>virgin, never had a girlfriend or come even close
>no education
>just started uni as my last effort at any kind of life
>anxious as hell about starting uni 10 years too late
>see no meaning in my life, haven't enjoyed life in as long as I can remember
>you can't relate to any other human being
>everyone you ever talk to seems like a privileged NPC robot incapable of comprehending where you come from
R: 272 / I: 56
All things considered my hygiene isn't too bad, though I currently have dandruff, which is annoying and makes it hard for me to feel truly clean.
Wizardly Hygiene
Just wondering how other wizards/apprentices feel in regards to hygiene. I'm NEET and my bathing is inconsistent, nowadays I'll sometimes go 2-3 days without a bath for every bath I take, but this used to be much worse. I would go a week plus without one consistently, and I think my worst stint was 2 months without bathing. I also used to have unkempt long hair and it was matted and tangled. I floss every day and brush occasionally, I'm actually terrified of the dentist and so I treat my teeth a bit better than the rest of my bodyAll things considered my hygiene isn't too bad, though I currently have dandruff, which is annoying and makes it hard for me to feel truly clean.
R: 1 / I: 0
Im making this thread to discuss online-begging from normies trough gofundme or similar online plattforms.
I personally don't advocate lying in the fund but I honestly think begging may do the trick-
for example"im about to become homeless. Please donate so i can go to a housing proyect"
i've seen many selfish and stupid gofundsme receive 50 or 100 dollars.
Some wizzies live in the third world so every dollar counts!
Project L.E.E.C.H.
lets extract expenses(and be) comfy heroes.Im making this thread to discuss online-begging from normies trough gofundme or similar online plattforms.
I personally don't advocate lying in the fund but I honestly think begging may do the trick-
for example"im about to become homeless. Please donate so i can go to a housing proyect"
i've seen many selfish and stupid gofundsme receive 50 or 100 dollars.
Some wizzies live in the third world so every dollar counts!
R: 68 / I: 5
Wizards or apprentices still living with your parents, this is our thread.
How's your life situation? Do you have a job yet are unable to move out for some reason? Are you like me and been sitting on that college diploma for a year already trying to dodge the "when are you going to get a job" questions?
Wizards or apprentices still living with your parents, this is our thread.
How's your life situation? Do you have a job yet are unable to move out for some reason? Are you like me and been sitting on that college diploma for a year already trying to dodge the "when are you going to get a job" questions?
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1: Wageslaving and being forced to interact with normies and living in a cheap, possibly shitty apartment for the rest of your days.
2: Packing up your belongings and living in a van or braving the unknowns and going with what you may or may not know as a homeless person.
Or 3: Suicide, simple as that.
Decisions to make
These are the three likely choices for most wizards if they can no longer be wizards or neets due to whatever circumstances brought upon them, which one do you choose and why? There are exceptions like inheritance, welfare and being rich though.1: Wageslaving and being forced to interact with normies and living in a cheap, possibly shitty apartment for the rest of your days.
2: Packing up your belongings and living in a van or braving the unknowns and going with what you may or may not know as a homeless person.
Or 3: Suicide, simple as that.
R: 132 / I: 10
are there any fellow neets who are thinking about becoming criminal? who wants to become powerful, self-sufficient, and self-controlling? Sadly, I'm too weak to go down thsi road by myself, and would like to have someone I can lean on, but im friendless.
Would at least like to have a friend who considers himself a bit immoral (one who might not have the values of a normie).
are there any fellow neets who are thinking about becoming criminal? who wants to become powerful, self-sufficient, and self-controlling? Sadly, I'm too weak to go down thsi road by myself, and would like to have someone I can lean on, but im friendless.
Would at least like to have a friend who considers himself a bit immoral (one who might not have the values of a normie).
R: 198 / I: 26
Military thread
What's your opinion on serving in the military? I know there's been some military wizards on here before, so I guess I was curious about your experiences if you have had any. Though there's a lot of 3rd world wizards who browse here, I guess this is obviously geared towards experiences in the western militaries. Or we could just have a general /mil/ thread for discussing topics and stuff.
R: 142 / I: 8
To save money, i thought about just showering without soap. i read articles that say you only need water to clean yourself and soap is unnecessary
I think there is something to this. i think most people just use soap to make sure they are clean because they don't trust the water to do it. The use of soap is based on an irrational fear of being unclean and stinky
https://ndoherty.com/no-shampoo/
i already cut my own hair. I would leave it short so it doesn't get oily
i went a year without washing my balls with soap. i just take the showerhead and squirt my balls and that's all i do. it looks and feels pretty clean. this is anecdotal evidence you don't really need soap
ignore the succubus in the pic
To save money, i thought about just showering without soap. i read articles that say you only need water to clean yourself and soap is unnecessary
I think there is something to this. i think most people just use soap to make sure they are clean because they don't trust the water to do it. The use of soap is based on an irrational fear of being unclean and stinky
https://ndoherty.com/no-shampoo/
i already cut my own hair. I would leave it short so it doesn't get oily
i went a year without washing my balls with soap. i just take the showerhead and squirt my balls and that's all i do. it looks and feels pretty clean. this is anecdotal evidence you don't really need soap
ignore the succubus in the pic
R: 79 / I: 5
After many years of waiting, I will finally become a wizard in two days, August 24th
It will be a time of celebration. I will have made 30 years of being a celibate.
After many years of waiting, I will finally become a wizard in two days, August 24th
It will be a time of celebration. I will have made 30 years of being a celibate.
R: 188 / I: 22
Any fellow wizards from Argentina? How do you cope with living in this hellhole?
Any other discussion about wizards around the world welcome too
Any fellow wizards from Argentina? How do you cope with living in this hellhole?
Any other discussion about wizards around the world welcome too
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>Of course the implied comparison with Christianity can only be taken so far. Christians are generally expected to humble themselves before their God, while believers in progress like to imagine that humanity will become God or, as in this case, be able to pat God fondly on the head and say, “That’s my kid.” More broadly, those of my readers who were paying attention last week will notice that the horrible fate that awaits the sinful is simply that nature will be allowed to go her own way, while the salvation awaiting the righteous is more or less the ability to browbeat nature into doing what they think she ought to do—or rather, what Bardi’s hypothesized New Intelligence, whose interests are assumed to be compatible with those of humanity, thinks she ought to do.
>There’s plenty that could be said about the biophobia—the stark shivering dread of life’s normal and healthy ripening toward death—that pervades this kind of thinking, but that’s a subject for another post. Here I’d like to take another path. Once the notions of perpetual progress and imminent apocalypse are seen as industrial society’s traditional folk mythologies, rather than meaningful resources for making predictions about the future, and known details about ecology, evolution, and astrophysics are used in their place to fill out the story, the next ten billion years looks very different from either of Bardi’s scenarios. Here’s my version or, if you will, my vision.
I had recently found out about this story and this blog through obscure forums. Even through the writer of this blog has been indulging in occult bullshit recently, his blogs provides one of the most reasonable and realistic portrayal of the collapse while being grounded on history and reason. This story is also few of the stories that actually understands Cosmicism instead of falling into nihilism and defeatism which is why I found it standing out from other stories with a similar theme.
The Next Ten Billion Years
http://archdruidmirror.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-next-ten-billion-years.html>Of course the implied comparison with Christianity can only be taken so far. Christians are generally expected to humble themselves before their God, while believers in progress like to imagine that humanity will become God or, as in this case, be able to pat God fondly on the head and say, “That’s my kid.” More broadly, those of my readers who were paying attention last week will notice that the horrible fate that awaits the sinful is simply that nature will be allowed to go her own way, while the salvation awaiting the righteous is more or less the ability to browbeat nature into doing what they think she ought to do—or rather, what Bardi’s hypothesized New Intelligence, whose interests are assumed to be compatible with those of humanity, thinks she ought to do.
>There’s plenty that could be said about the biophobia—the stark shivering dread of life’s normal and healthy ripening toward death—that pervades this kind of thinking, but that’s a subject for another post. Here I’d like to take another path. Once the notions of perpetual progress and imminent apocalypse are seen as industrial society’s traditional folk mythologies, rather than meaningful resources for making predictions about the future, and known details about ecology, evolution, and astrophysics are used in their place to fill out the story, the next ten billion years looks very different from either of Bardi’s scenarios. Here’s my version or, if you will, my vision.
I had recently found out about this story and this blog through obscure forums. Even through the writer of this blog has been indulging in occult bullshit recently, his blogs provides one of the most reasonable and realistic portrayal of the collapse while being grounded on history and reason. This story is also few of the stories that actually understands Cosmicism instead of falling into nihilism and defeatism which is why I found it standing out from other stories with a similar theme.
R: 12 / I: 3
However, somewhere at the end of the Middle Ages a different approach to improvement began to emerge in Western Europe. Not to survive, but to improve, to check. Change for the sake of change, not necessarily. This new way of thinking developed slowly and exploded with all its might in the 19th century. Eccentric people, inventors, crazy people discovering something became "pop stars". Inventing and discovering became fashionable. This lasted until the middle of the 20th century and became commonplace.
In my opinion, inventiveness is not fashionable nowadays but only desirable to satisfy consumers, so in part we return to thinking from before this revolution only at a different level. We expect that there will be inventions, but the people who design them are not famous, and these are just another anonymous work that we do not worship but demand.
Admittedly, there are universities, pop culture productions promoting slogans: "all the time forward", "don't give up", "it's up to you", "you make your way", but how many people listen to them?
There is no longer such pressure on these slogans and I am afraid that we are entering another period of stagnation, so much so that at a higher level of development, which in turn is more difficult to maintain in the case of "misfortune".
What do you think about the present imperative of the progress that our civilization has made. Why was it possible to create it? What do you see its origins in? Is it really burning itself out or has it just changed its form? And if not, how far will we go with the fumes?
Or do you think that it is a feature of our species and we were condemned to technical development?
The imperative of progress, momentary fashion or human innate quality?
Throughout the vast majority of history, as a species we have simply existed like other animals. Eat, breed, survive. Norma. Then came religion and philosophy, which dictated how to live. It regulated social relations and explained the unexplained, but it was still about survival.However, somewhere at the end of the Middle Ages a different approach to improvement began to emerge in Western Europe. Not to survive, but to improve, to check. Change for the sake of change, not necessarily. This new way of thinking developed slowly and exploded with all its might in the 19th century. Eccentric people, inventors, crazy people discovering something became "pop stars". Inventing and discovering became fashionable. This lasted until the middle of the 20th century and became commonplace.
In my opinion, inventiveness is not fashionable nowadays but only desirable to satisfy consumers, so in part we return to thinking from before this revolution only at a different level. We expect that there will be inventions, but the people who design them are not famous, and these are just another anonymous work that we do not worship but demand.
Admittedly, there are universities, pop culture productions promoting slogans: "all the time forward", "don't give up", "it's up to you", "you make your way", but how many people listen to them?
There is no longer such pressure on these slogans and I am afraid that we are entering another period of stagnation, so much so that at a higher level of development, which in turn is more difficult to maintain in the case of "misfortune".
What do you think about the present imperative of the progress that our civilization has made. Why was it possible to create it? What do you see its origins in? Is it really burning itself out or has it just changed its form? And if not, how far will we go with the fumes?
Or do you think that it is a feature of our species and we were condemned to technical development?
R: 86 / I: 17
Post your current worldview…
My:
1. There is no free will anyway.
2. There is no hope to survive for a lot time (anti-aging is a meme).
3. It's really hard to get a career or a good job now, still no confidence to keep own job position in the future (even if you are skilled).
So, I just live own life each day and I don't care about anything. No ambitions, no wife\children. I play games, watch movies, code some stuff, drink, live as I want.
What is about your worldview?
Post your current worldview…
My:
1. There is no free will anyway.
2. There is no hope to survive for a lot time (anti-aging is a meme).
3. It's really hard to get a career or a good job now, still no confidence to keep own job position in the future (even if you are skilled).
So, I just live own life each day and I don't care about anything. No ambitions, no wife\children. I play games, watch movies, code some stuff, drink, live as I want.
What is about your worldview?
R: 61 / I: 5
article about (males) not having sex becoming more common
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?utm_term=.13bc0eafcbdd
article about (males) not having sex becoming more common
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?utm_term=.13bc0eafcbdd
R: 28 / I: 1
What do you think, is the need for social validation and belonging something inextricable from human behavior or is there a way to be free from it? Have any of you achieve it? If yes how, if no why not? The ideal of a man free from this entrapment would be a traditional hermit like Christopher Thomas Knight or that Vietnamese man from the other /wiz/ thread. Do you think the fact that these people live away from society and technology means that true independence from social needs can't be achieved as long as you live in midst of society? I'd like your thoughts on this.
TLDR see subject title
How do you get rid of social needs?
Part of the reason why I have avoided real life social interaction is my disdain for how people seek validation and acceptance from each other. They bully, brownnose, backstab, and make a whole circus performance to get other people to acknowledge them. I hate that and I want to be free from that so I stay away from them, social validation is a weakness that'll make you suffer when you don't have it and make you a jester slave in fervent pursuit of it in stead of something more meaningful. However, my natural social instinct always bring me to an alternative form of social groups, anime subculture, meme subculture, and now wizchan. But even that is starting to bother me. Even on wizcan there are many qualities of real life interaction that repulse me, the scramble for hierarchy, validation, and ego when neet wizards, wageslave wizards, uni wizards, political wizards, nihilist wizards, religious wizards, marginally social wizards, happy wizards, suffering wizards all throw their shit at each other in a war of supremacy. Even if you can get pass that and establish yourself as someone who truly belongs and feel connected to the site, all you have done is to give yourself a dependence. The website will be gone one day, it may change just like how old wizardchan allowed crabs, or maybe it is you who will change. And when that happen what will you do with your need for validation, are you going to look for another place, struggle and fight to worm yourself in, and repeat the cycle anew?What do you think, is the need for social validation and belonging something inextricable from human behavior or is there a way to be free from it? Have any of you achieve it? If yes how, if no why not? The ideal of a man free from this entrapment would be a traditional hermit like Christopher Thomas Knight or that Vietnamese man from the other /wiz/ thread. Do you think the fact that these people live away from society and technology means that true independence from social needs can't be achieved as long as you live in midst of society? I'd like your thoughts on this.
TLDR see subject title
R: 10 / I: 1
I heard something interesting. I heard this mortician say something along the lines of "accepting death does not mean that you don't feel pain after a loss, the acceptance of death is the ability to feel that pain and not be weighed down by existential questions"
i think this statement has psychological depth and relevance to wizards. Most of us are very stoic and "emotionless" as normals would say, could this be responsible for our philosophical depth?
think about that statement again. When someone loses a loved one to death, the expected reaction is for them to break down crying. But wizards or i at least wouldn't do that.
how do i know? Well when i walked in on my mother after she committed suicide i didn't feel sad, i felt a bit frightened but not sad, i didn't throw a fit or break down crying. But i felt a very separated feeling, almost like something you would feel while in deep meditation. I didn't really care because i innately knew that nothing is ever truly gone. But that is far from the only potential stressor in my life. As you could guess my family is highly dysfunctional and i am highly neurotic, this constant onslaught of negative stimuli from my family has drove me near insane sometimes and i often question why i don't have it in me to fight back. where is the innate rage? When will it swoop in and save me? Why am i so defenseless? and even more repugnant, why don't i care?
those questions that arise out of that innate heightened consciousness have caused me infinitely more pain and suffering than any traumatic event could ever hope to achieve. Existential suffering is among one of the worst. And i have yet to 'escape it' per se.
all i know is that i prove what that mortician said. All though i can't say it's an entirely bad thing. I know there are certain special opportunities and insights that come from this existential mindset.
I heard something interesting. I heard this mortician say something along the lines of "accepting death does not mean that you don't feel pain after a loss, the acceptance of death is the ability to feel that pain and not be weighed down by existential questions"
i think this statement has psychological depth and relevance to wizards. Most of us are very stoic and "emotionless" as normals would say, could this be responsible for our philosophical depth?
think about that statement again. When someone loses a loved one to death, the expected reaction is for them to break down crying. But wizards or i at least wouldn't do that.
how do i know? Well when i walked in on my mother after she committed suicide i didn't feel sad, i felt a bit frightened but not sad, i didn't throw a fit or break down crying. But i felt a very separated feeling, almost like something you would feel while in deep meditation. I didn't really care because i innately knew that nothing is ever truly gone. But that is far from the only potential stressor in my life. As you could guess my family is highly dysfunctional and i am highly neurotic, this constant onslaught of negative stimuli from my family has drove me near insane sometimes and i often question why i don't have it in me to fight back. where is the innate rage? When will it swoop in and save me? Why am i so defenseless? and even more repugnant, why don't i care?
those questions that arise out of that innate heightened consciousness have caused me infinitely more pain and suffering than any traumatic event could ever hope to achieve. Existential suffering is among one of the worst. And i have yet to 'escape it' per se.
all i know is that i prove what that mortician said. All though i can't say it's an entirely bad thing. I know there are certain special opportunities and insights that come from this existential mindset.
R: 9 / I: 1
In the moth fly case is different. It's not an insect from the outside coming in, not knowing any better, that moth fly was born inside the drain of my sink. It belongs to the bathroom as much as the shower head and the toilet. The other ones belong on the outside, they know the outside. All that moth knows for a world is the bathroom. A big part of the reason I'm concerned is because I might have made it sick. What happened was, every time I take a shower (once a day in the morning) I let the bathroom's window open, otherwise the plaster from the walls won't ever dry properly and become all yellowish in appearance and ruined over time. Even after I'm done with the shower I keep it open for another couple of hours so the whole bathroom will dry properly. After that I close it down and reopen again in the morning. Now, a couple of days ago I must've been distracted because I accidentally closed the window while the moth fly was standing on the window sash outside. I must add that outside pane is the farthest those moth flies ever get from the bathroom. I didn't realize this until the next morning when I opened the window again and it hopped from the sash to the stool. It didn't fly at all, it just leaped a little bit which is weird. Usually they just fly pretty quick out of danger. Didn't look right.
If you got to this point you must be wondering what this event has to do with wizardry and why I'm posting on /wiz/. The thing is, this increased perception torwards my surrounds is the direct product or wizardy, more specifically, solitude and silence. The older I get, more aware I get of everything around me. It wasn't like that 10 years ago I can tell you that much. Now I could tell you a full story about a crack on the outer wall of my parent's house. Each passing year I can see better, which is funny because I actually need new glasses, my myopia have increased over time. I could actually tell about so much that's going on all around us but you can't see it if you don't abandon yourself, stay silent inside and out and just use your eyes. Each nook and cranny everywhere have something to tell you, something is going on. I'll wager this is one sort of wizard powers. The power to have the right eyes and mind to be able to watch an epic tale unfold on the peel of an orange. I'm not even kidding but I know some people will think I am. I don't think that is a hard concept to grasp but it's not an easy one to appreciate.
Anyway, the moth fly sat in there without moving but still on its legs. I couldn't take a shower with it sitting in there so close to the shower, so I took a piece of toilet paper and gently bothered it until it hopped again to the toiler paper. I took it to the side of the sink where it hopped again, a very sickly hop I think, into the wall. It had spent the whole night outside, maybe the temperature did something to it? I don't know, but it didn't move the whole night waiting to come in. You may doubt it's even the same moth fly, you'll just have to trust me that it was. It had the same size (it may seem the all look the same size but that's because you didn't took your time to look closely) and the same wings a little too far from its body which is a bit unusual. It just happened to be locked outside its home because of my distractedness. I read somewhere that some monks can remember if they were breathing in or out the moment they woke up because they train to cut away all distractedness. I can see now they have a point. It stood there the whole time while I was showering without moving. I did the whole open/close windows routine and it didn't move them. 12 hours later (middle of the nigh) I checked again and it flew from the position I left it, close to the floor, to sit closer to the ceiling, where they usually sit. I convinced myself that was an improvement.
And this morning it's gone. I did a throughly search (it takes 5 minutes, it is a small bathroom with nothing in it but a bar of soap, dental floss and a tooth brush). It didn't die because I would have seen the cadaver on the floor, a white, quite clean floor (I clean it on my knees, it's spotless), I would have seen it. So maybe it went back to the drain? I didn't know adults would ever go back to the drains but apparently they do. I won't use the sink or the shower for the next 48 hours just in case it might be recuperating itself down there and running water may caught it unexpectedly, though they never had a problem with it, who knows. If I ever find it again I make sure to make a post about it, I just read on wikipedia it has a life span of 20 days, I don't know, I'll have to wait an see… Well, I just realized my little story doesn't have a satisfying ending to it, actually it doesn't have any ending at all, somehow I figured it would be better than it actually is, now that I'm reading the whole thing through. Who said it that every true story ends in death? Anyway, life isn't boring at all (I'm now trying to have a moral to the story here, to cover for the lack of ending or goal), you just have to look closer, and closer and then closer still. I know talking about the eye of the beholder is quite clichéd by now but it's true. You don't need to go beyond your door to witness amazing, beautiful or terrible things. I don't know what type of response I'm waiting from this post and I don't know the theme here. I guess I'll just have to post it for what it is, whatever it is. Thanks for reading, I hope you were entertained for a little while at least.
Life through a moth's spiracle; Solitude of a wizard.
I've lost a moth fly yesterday. I don't know where it could have gone and to my own surprise the case is making me concerned and I keep going back to it, trying to figure things out. I had, until yesterday at least, a moth fly in my bathroom. It's a tiny bathroom and I can close it hermetically, to the point not even light can come throught it. The door shuts in pretty good with virtually no space left between the door and the hinge stile, and the casing is so tight you can hear the air running in and you feel it getting stuck if you close it fast enough. I asure you I have analyzed my door intently and there's no way any insect could get in or out when that door is properly shut and I shut it properly every time. I know I do because if I don't other insects will come in from outside like butterflies, bees or ants. I can't allow that to happen, they eventually get stuck between the lamp shade and its canopy and waste away going in circles. I can't imagine what a horrible death that is, even if the light is off and you're not slowly burning up. I'm currently considering not having a lamp shade at all but it's better for everyone if I just avoid their entrance altogether.In the moth fly case is different. It's not an insect from the outside coming in, not knowing any better, that moth fly was born inside the drain of my sink. It belongs to the bathroom as much as the shower head and the toilet. The other ones belong on the outside, they know the outside. All that moth knows for a world is the bathroom. A big part of the reason I'm concerned is because I might have made it sick. What happened was, every time I take a shower (once a day in the morning) I let the bathroom's window open, otherwise the plaster from the walls won't ever dry properly and become all yellowish in appearance and ruined over time. Even after I'm done with the shower I keep it open for another couple of hours so the whole bathroom will dry properly. After that I close it down and reopen again in the morning. Now, a couple of days ago I must've been distracted because I accidentally closed the window while the moth fly was standing on the window sash outside. I must add that outside pane is the farthest those moth flies ever get from the bathroom. I didn't realize this until the next morning when I opened the window again and it hopped from the sash to the stool. It didn't fly at all, it just leaped a little bit which is weird. Usually they just fly pretty quick out of danger. Didn't look right.
If you got to this point you must be wondering what this event has to do with wizardry and why I'm posting on /wiz/. The thing is, this increased perception torwards my surrounds is the direct product or wizardy, more specifically, solitude and silence. The older I get, more aware I get of everything around me. It wasn't like that 10 years ago I can tell you that much. Now I could tell you a full story about a crack on the outer wall of my parent's house. Each passing year I can see better, which is funny because I actually need new glasses, my myopia have increased over time. I could actually tell about so much that's going on all around us but you can't see it if you don't abandon yourself, stay silent inside and out and just use your eyes. Each nook and cranny everywhere have something to tell you, something is going on. I'll wager this is one sort of wizard powers. The power to have the right eyes and mind to be able to watch an epic tale unfold on the peel of an orange. I'm not even kidding but I know some people will think I am. I don't think that is a hard concept to grasp but it's not an easy one to appreciate.
Anyway, the moth fly sat in there without moving but still on its legs. I couldn't take a shower with it sitting in there so close to the shower, so I took a piece of toilet paper and gently bothered it until it hopped again to the toiler paper. I took it to the side of the sink where it hopped again, a very sickly hop I think, into the wall. It had spent the whole night outside, maybe the temperature did something to it? I don't know, but it didn't move the whole night waiting to come in. You may doubt it's even the same moth fly, you'll just have to trust me that it was. It had the same size (it may seem the all look the same size but that's because you didn't took your time to look closely) and the same wings a little too far from its body which is a bit unusual. It just happened to be locked outside its home because of my distractedness. I read somewhere that some monks can remember if they were breathing in or out the moment they woke up because they train to cut away all distractedness. I can see now they have a point. It stood there the whole time while I was showering without moving. I did the whole open/close windows routine and it didn't move them. 12 hours later (middle of the nigh) I checked again and it flew from the position I left it, close to the floor, to sit closer to the ceiling, where they usually sit. I convinced myself that was an improvement.
And this morning it's gone. I did a throughly search (it takes 5 minutes, it is a small bathroom with nothing in it but a bar of soap, dental floss and a tooth brush). It didn't die because I would have seen the cadaver on the floor, a white, quite clean floor (I clean it on my knees, it's spotless), I would have seen it. So maybe it went back to the drain? I didn't know adults would ever go back to the drains but apparently they do. I won't use the sink or the shower for the next 48 hours just in case it might be recuperating itself down there and running water may caught it unexpectedly, though they never had a problem with it, who knows. If I ever find it again I make sure to make a post about it, I just read on wikipedia it has a life span of 20 days, I don't know, I'll have to wait an see… Well, I just realized my little story doesn't have a satisfying ending to it, actually it doesn't have any ending at all, somehow I figured it would be better than it actually is, now that I'm reading the whole thing through. Who said it that every true story ends in death? Anyway, life isn't boring at all (I'm now trying to have a moral to the story here, to cover for the lack of ending or goal), you just have to look closer, and closer and then closer still. I know talking about the eye of the beholder is quite clichéd by now but it's true. You don't need to go beyond your door to witness amazing, beautiful or terrible things. I don't know what type of response I'm waiting from this post and I don't know the theme here. I guess I'll just have to post it for what it is, whatever it is. Thanks for reading, I hope you were entertained for a little while at least.
R: 23 / I: 5
Sotoicism focused on the study of Logic, Metaphysics and Ethics. But, in contrast to academic philosophy how we know nowadays, they were only interested in abstract reasoning because they believed that their findings should resonate in behavior,i.e, in what means to live a good life. Having this in mind, stoics often stressed the importance of self-control, discipline and clarity of thinking: virtues that could lead someone to attain what they called atharaxia, which means "apathy", "tranquility", a state of non-perturbation in the psyché.
Stoicism became so influential that even among ancient Romans it was often practiced. Amongst the well-known roman stoics are the slave Epictetus, Nero's preceptor Seneca, and the successful emperor Marcus Aurelius. All of them have famous writings on the practice of stoa, from somewhat different practical standing points, as you can infer by their positions in Roman society.
I highly recommend to fellow wizards the hearing of this audio book from Epictetus Enchiridion. It has good advice indeed to deal with various occasions that can put us off in daily life. Sometimes difficult to attain, but the idea is not to become an ancient philosopher from day to night.
Stoa Thread
Stoicism is a school of Philosophy with roots in ancient Greece. It is believed that its founder, Zeno of Citium, came to invent it after a unfortunate shipwreck turned him from a prosperous merchant into a very poor man. The story tells that after this unlucky event Zeno became an assiduous reader of the life of Socrates, and that instructed by the example of the old Greek philosopher he himself came to make philosophy on his own and teach it at the Stoa Poikile, a famous building of the city of Athens - hence the name of the school.Sotoicism focused on the study of Logic, Metaphysics and Ethics. But, in contrast to academic philosophy how we know nowadays, they were only interested in abstract reasoning because they believed that their findings should resonate in behavior,i.e, in what means to live a good life. Having this in mind, stoics often stressed the importance of self-control, discipline and clarity of thinking: virtues that could lead someone to attain what they called atharaxia, which means "apathy", "tranquility", a state of non-perturbation in the psyché.
Stoicism became so influential that even among ancient Romans it was often practiced. Amongst the well-known roman stoics are the slave Epictetus, Nero's preceptor Seneca, and the successful emperor Marcus Aurelius. All of them have famous writings on the practice of stoa, from somewhat different practical standing points, as you can infer by their positions in Roman society.
I highly recommend to fellow wizards the hearing of this audio book from Epictetus Enchiridion. It has good advice indeed to deal with various occasions that can put us off in daily life. Sometimes difficult to attain, but the idea is not to become an ancient philosopher from day to night.
R: 1 / I: 0
I was deeply shocked;how, IF, will I be remembered when i die? what contributions will I have made,or at least personal victories?
i couldnt help but judge people based on their faces,bodies,and age at which they died. linkedin,twitter, (not instagram cause fuck instagram),sometimes I end up a rabbit hole of analyzing stranger's lives.
I dunno, i just wanted to vent. i feel like a creep but also vulnerable
death and photos
I was googling photos from an old strongman to mimick his tricks but i found several legacy,find a-grave and memorial sites.I was deeply shocked;how, IF, will I be remembered when i die? what contributions will I have made,or at least personal victories?
i couldnt help but judge people based on their faces,bodies,and age at which they died. linkedin,twitter, (not instagram cause fuck instagram),sometimes I end up a rabbit hole of analyzing stranger's lives.
I dunno, i just wanted to vent. i feel like a creep but also vulnerable
R: 31 / I: 5
And there's no escape, no matter what I do. I could stay at home, and then all the sinister thoughts begin creeping inside my mind. Should I leave it, the world immediately changes to mess with whatever plans, however little, I have.
It sounds like schizo ramblings, but I swear it's all too real and suspicious to not entertain such thoughts.
Real Life Truman Show
Does anyone else feel like they're living in a world-sized play set? A lot of events in my life, the way they play out, follow each other and "coincide" simply makes no sense. Unless there really is a cosmic deity, or a number of them, simply being fond of throwing all sorts of hurdles before me and tormenting my mind for laughs.And there's no escape, no matter what I do. I could stay at home, and then all the sinister thoughts begin creeping inside my mind. Should I leave it, the world immediately changes to mess with whatever plans, however little, I have.
It sounds like schizo ramblings, but I swear it's all too real and suspicious to not entertain such thoughts.
R: 40 / I: 2
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vietnam-jungle-men-incredible-story-ho-van-lang-boy-who-lived-wild-41-years-1569459
ho van lang never even saw a female
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vietnam-jungle-men-incredible-story-ho-van-lang-boy-who-lived-wild-41-years-1569459
ho van lang never even saw a female
R: 29 / I: 4
When people talk about their sufferings and hardships. They tend to do it in an exalted way. They always tell it as it is and- almost as to accept it, wear it as a badge, laying it bare before the listener.
but please tell me. Who on earth would want people to know of their sufferings? Well. They like to use them not to show how weak they are but as a testament to their fortitude. But i've noticed that these solemn, self proclaimed conquerors of adversity are always either false to themselves or the listener and almost always fall into two distinct, gay categories.
1. The liar.
This person does not tell the story as it is. They tell it the way they tell it to themselves. Like a polished ball of shit. They brush over important parts or details and try to make it sound pretty almost. Hiding the real nature of the situation or event, they often do this to gain sympathy whilst staying morally innocent. The point is that the event or situation was actually too hard to bare for them so they don't tell it to its fullest because they don't want to look like a retard or loser. They tell the fanfiction version they created.
2.the hero
These people were never in any real danger to begin with. They were well equipt to deal with the situation so they are perfectly fine telling it truthfully. Often as not a depressing story but a cool one. They aim to be revered because of it, paint themselves as some sort of underdog when in reality they were on top the whole time.
i don't tell my tales of trauma or hardships because there is no rectitude to be salvaged from them, you as a normal person would get no catharsis in placing yourself in my shoes, no, in fact you would find it repugnant if not frightening. It would make you use that awful buzzword "yikes". You would leave wishing you never heard it because it tampers with your world view and to top it off i still am a loser. But even if i wasn't. Even then you would feel that chaos and evil had one. But you'll never hear it. It would be absolute torment for me to repeat it.
if there is a point to all this posting it is that there is no such thing as a real life reflection or autobiography. There are always things too embarrassing for people to recall and there are always things left out, things that the author hides even from them self. No autobiography is 100% true. It is all embellished. tweaked. and manipulated to sound just.
but what about when things are just downright too nasty, too offensive to repeat? When there is no moral rectitude to be salvaged? When good has not only been triumphed but raped, twisted and BTFO'd a million times over? Those are the stories that go untold. And even if it were to be told. It would never spread.
there are no public underdogs, conquerors of adversity or heros. Those are all liars and lucky and/or privileged con artists.
When people talk about their sufferings and hardships. They tend to do it in an exalted way. They always tell it as it is and- almost as to accept it, wear it as a badge, laying it bare before the listener.
but please tell me. Who on earth would want people to know of their sufferings? Well. They like to use them not to show how weak they are but as a testament to their fortitude. But i've noticed that these solemn, self proclaimed conquerors of adversity are always either false to themselves or the listener and almost always fall into two distinct, gay categories.
1. The liar.
This person does not tell the story as it is. They tell it the way they tell it to themselves. Like a polished ball of shit. They brush over important parts or details and try to make it sound pretty almost. Hiding the real nature of the situation or event, they often do this to gain sympathy whilst staying morally innocent. The point is that the event or situation was actually too hard to bare for them so they don't tell it to its fullest because they don't want to look like a retard or loser. They tell the fanfiction version they created.
2.the hero
These people were never in any real danger to begin with. They were well equipt to deal with the situation so they are perfectly fine telling it truthfully. Often as not a depressing story but a cool one. They aim to be revered because of it, paint themselves as some sort of underdog when in reality they were on top the whole time.
i don't tell my tales of trauma or hardships because there is no rectitude to be salvaged from them, you as a normal person would get no catharsis in placing yourself in my shoes, no, in fact you would find it repugnant if not frightening. It would make you use that awful buzzword "yikes". You would leave wishing you never heard it because it tampers with your world view and to top it off i still am a loser. But even if i wasn't. Even then you would feel that chaos and evil had one. But you'll never hear it. It would be absolute torment for me to repeat it.
if there is a point to all this posting it is that there is no such thing as a real life reflection or autobiography. There are always things too embarrassing for people to recall and there are always things left out, things that the author hides even from them self. No autobiography is 100% true. It is all embellished. tweaked. and manipulated to sound just.
but what about when things are just downright too nasty, too offensive to repeat? When there is no moral rectitude to be salvaged? When good has not only been triumphed but raped, twisted and BTFO'd a million times over? Those are the stories that go untold. And even if it were to be told. It would never spread.
there are no public underdogs, conquerors of adversity or heros. Those are all liars and lucky and/or privileged con artists.
R: 86 / I: 9
van living
What's your opinion on living in a van/car to escape the paying rent scam? It's something that I've been considering doing for a long time and it definitely seems feasible. I want to be able to escape society and to live more freely. I've lived in small rooms before and I'm naturally frugal so I don't think the transition would bother me too much. I also live in the US so something like this is a lot easier here due to the developed infrastructure then probably in other countries. Ideally I'd like to get a small fuel-efficient van and customize it as to make it livable. Could we have a general thread about this sort of thing? If you've lived in a vehicle before, please feel free to share all your tips here.
R: 18 / I: 5
how can someone be so sophisticated? If i ever tried writing something like notes from underground it would come off as whiny and melodramatic. I think it was due to his time being in the renaissance that he could articulate what was on his mind. is there any writer like this guy?
how can someone be so sophisticated? If i ever tried writing something like notes from underground it would come off as whiny and melodramatic. I think it was due to his time being in the renaissance that he could articulate what was on his mind. is there any writer like this guy?
R: 13 / I: 1
Does anyone feel like they reached some kind of enlightenment by being a hikki for years? Staying locked in a room for months was suffering and prejudice to my health but along with that I think I kinda lost the delusions and got more connected to my inner mind, now that I got a job I am back in the world again and every normie looks like they're so delusional and dumbly happy and unaware and stuck in a dumb Cattle life
Does anyone feel like they reached some kind of enlightenment by being a hikki for years? Staying locked in a room for months was suffering and prejudice to my health but along with that I think I kinda lost the delusions and got more connected to my inner mind, now that I got a job I am back in the world again and every normie looks like they're so delusional and dumbly happy and unaware and stuck in a dumb Cattle life
R: 42 / I: 3
tl;dr I assume people do certain behaviors in public just to piss me off or are plotting to be against me which has happened before
Paranoia of everyone being against me
How do you deal with this? My issue personally is that I'm very suspectible of normgroid behavior in public and I nitpick their behavior on their passive aggressiveness. I am a coward so I never really confront them unless it turns to an altercation which rarely happens. I get angry at very little things (i.e person at a stop light speeds off faster than me, leaving a place without receptionist person saying have a nice day, person laughs with their friend when I walk by and automatically assume they're making fun of me etc.). The reason why I'm like this is because I have trouble reading people's emotions and the constant backstabs I recieved has made me more suspectible of normgroid behavior to the point of never trusting them (even extended family members because they have backstabbed me before). I've read tons stories of anons getting teased by normgrouds so I know that normgroids WILL go out of their way to be rude to people just for the sake of it. People on imageboards say things like "It's all in your head wizzie don't worry but often times when I think of the worst common scenario, it turns out to be true. An example would be when I had issues with coworkers at my old job. Apperently some people didn't like me because of my attitude (he isn't quirky and LOVES his job like us wtf!!) but no one told me anything. Long story short, I got fired because someone reported me to management for my "attitude" but when I asked a couple coworkers what everyone thought of me, they said "lol no one badly talks about you" I'm quiet, shy, prefer to be alone, but apperently this pisses off normgroids to no ends. It doesn't help when I see a video on youtube about some guy talking to some guy in a white t shirt witha firm tone in public, and there's comments like "wow guy in white t shirt was so rude because of his tone I would've done x and y to him" where as I would've simply brushed off the guy in white t shirt and not think anything about his tone. This only feeds my paranoia of suspectible normgroid behavior and it's partially the reason why I became NEET for a few years. Sadly I have to wageslave again and I'll have to deal with this problem again. Fucktl;dr I assume people do certain behaviors in public just to piss me off or are plotting to be against me which has happened before
R: 30 / I: 3
As I approach 30 though, in recent years I am finding myself growing disinterested in forums and discussion boards. Wizchan and some other obscure topic-specific forums are the only places I visit these days, and those visits are becoming more infrequent. Not to sound too romantic about it, but I feel like I'm in the "twilight years" of my internet browsing career. Although this place is special to me, if this trend persists then I may eventually stop visiting here as well. With this in the back of my mind I am savouring my time here. I'm savouring it because I fear that as I continue to age I will no longer browse here due to the lack of novelty and/or not being able to relate to the (on average) younger userbase.
Can anyone else relate to this feeling?
One of the things I treasure most about this place is that the attitudes here align with my own value system. It is a truly wonderful feeling to have your world view validated. There is no way I could ever find such validation in meatspace. To be told (indirectly/abstractly) that there is nothing wrong with me and that I'm fine the way I am. That is precious to me.
I don't know where I'm going with this but I just wonder how ephemeral this subculture is. Will it somehow disappear or will I eventually leave on my own accord before that happens?
What is life like once one outgrows the internet?
To be clear when I mention internet use here I'm referring to lurking in forums and discussion boards and the like. Not using the internet as a utility. Certainly I have many technical interests and the internet is a tool for that, but what I'm referring to in this post is distinct from utilitarian internet use.
Topics similar to this have been discussed here in the past so I apologise if this is a repetitious post.
Leaving the Internet
Internet browsing has been an enormously important part of my life. From my young teenage years through to my late 20s. I have spent a tremendous amount of time browsing all kinds of forums and archives. For me it was a great way to learn about the world, and these creatures called humans that inhabit it, from the safety of my room. Especially as someone with autism, reading countless anecdotes of human behavior has been valuable.As I approach 30 though, in recent years I am finding myself growing disinterested in forums and discussion boards. Wizchan and some other obscure topic-specific forums are the only places I visit these days, and those visits are becoming more infrequent. Not to sound too romantic about it, but I feel like I'm in the "twilight years" of my internet browsing career. Although this place is special to me, if this trend persists then I may eventually stop visiting here as well. With this in the back of my mind I am savouring my time here. I'm savouring it because I fear that as I continue to age I will no longer browse here due to the lack of novelty and/or not being able to relate to the (on average) younger userbase.
Can anyone else relate to this feeling?
One of the things I treasure most about this place is that the attitudes here align with my own value system. It is a truly wonderful feeling to have your world view validated. There is no way I could ever find such validation in meatspace. To be told (indirectly/abstractly) that there is nothing wrong with me and that I'm fine the way I am. That is precious to me.
I don't know where I'm going with this but I just wonder how ephemeral this subculture is. Will it somehow disappear or will I eventually leave on my own accord before that happens?
What is life like once one outgrows the internet?
To be clear when I mention internet use here I'm referring to lurking in forums and discussion boards and the like. Not using the internet as a utility. Certainly I have many technical interests and the internet is a tool for that, but what I'm referring to in this post is distinct from utilitarian internet use.
Topics similar to this have been discussed here in the past so I apologise if this is a repetitious post.
R: 28 / I: 4
When men are trying to impress a succubus they will tell them about all their achievements and their job and spend lots of money on them and generally give the impression that they are rich and can provide for the succubus (and child). Until recently it was quite common for a succubus who was courting a man to not be able to marry him until he had achieved a certain position in society, like becoming a ship's captain or something instead of just a sailor. There was also a bride price in many cases and of course, the engagement ring, a stupid ritual meant to display the man's wealth and ability to buy the damn thing. Capitalism is inextricably linked to our mating rituals.
As someone who has no interest in mating, the whole thing seems abhorrent, mainly because it causes everyone to try and exploit and enslave each other and rank each other in strict hierarchies as it's through this process that wealth is created and obtained. Everyone wants to be the boss man telling people what to do while taking the biggest cut and the succubi are attracted to that because it means they've learned how to game the system in their favor and get a bigger cut of the wealth, no matter if that means they're attracted to qualities of evil. It motivates everyone to work like a dog and that work, done aided by energy provided by fossil fuels is destroying the environment.
Everyone will use whatever tool is available to them to get a leg up because it's all one big dick measuring contest. Everyone is trying to prove they can provide and raise a child to attract a succubus, even if they don't realize it. The gangbanger wannabe in some lowrider car and gold chains is doing a display like a peacock flaring his feathers saying, hey choose me choose me, I am a good mate, I have the ability to get all this so surely I could one day get the things needed to raise a child. All he knows is he wants pussy and succubi like bling because it's instinct.
The whole thing has created an insane world when combined with the technology to let everyone get a large amount of resources. The population exploded like crazy and humans polluted and polluted more and more and destroyed the natural world more and more without care all just to get some pussy and have the cycle repeat. It's not sustainable forever though, that much is clear, the only problem is being stuck on this fucking crazy train with all these lust crazed normalfags determined to drive it off a cliff.
Capitalism and the human mating ritual
Does anyone else view capitalism as being driven mostly by the human mating ritual? It seems to me that one of the main reasons people, men especially, try to achieve social status and earn lots of money is to attract a mate.When men are trying to impress a succubus they will tell them about all their achievements and their job and spend lots of money on them and generally give the impression that they are rich and can provide for the succubus (and child). Until recently it was quite common for a succubus who was courting a man to not be able to marry him until he had achieved a certain position in society, like becoming a ship's captain or something instead of just a sailor. There was also a bride price in many cases and of course, the engagement ring, a stupid ritual meant to display the man's wealth and ability to buy the damn thing. Capitalism is inextricably linked to our mating rituals.
As someone who has no interest in mating, the whole thing seems abhorrent, mainly because it causes everyone to try and exploit and enslave each other and rank each other in strict hierarchies as it's through this process that wealth is created and obtained. Everyone wants to be the boss man telling people what to do while taking the biggest cut and the succubi are attracted to that because it means they've learned how to game the system in their favor and get a bigger cut of the wealth, no matter if that means they're attracted to qualities of evil. It motivates everyone to work like a dog and that work, done aided by energy provided by fossil fuels is destroying the environment.
Everyone will use whatever tool is available to them to get a leg up because it's all one big dick measuring contest. Everyone is trying to prove they can provide and raise a child to attract a succubus, even if they don't realize it. The gangbanger wannabe in some lowrider car and gold chains is doing a display like a peacock flaring his feathers saying, hey choose me choose me, I am a good mate, I have the ability to get all this so surely I could one day get the things needed to raise a child. All he knows is he wants pussy and succubi like bling because it's instinct.
The whole thing has created an insane world when combined with the technology to let everyone get a large amount of resources. The population exploded like crazy and humans polluted and polluted more and more and destroyed the natural world more and more without care all just to get some pussy and have the cycle repeat. It's not sustainable forever though, that much is clear, the only problem is being stuck on this fucking crazy train with all these lust crazed normalfags determined to drive it off a cliff.
R: 42 / I: 7
A more realistic idea could be of building a Wiz neighborhood, street, even apartment block.
We just pick one small town in the USA and the EU and make it our Wiz HQ that all Wizards aspire to move to. Since most Wizs live our lives on the internet, location in the middle of nowhere doesn't really matter.
Wiztown USA
Wizburg, EU
Wiztown Wiz Neighborhood
I don't think the Wiz Commune will ever happen as it involves a social community-building and pooling of resources and living in close proximity that most Wizs probably aren't suited for.A more realistic idea could be of building a Wiz neighborhood, street, even apartment block.
We just pick one small town in the USA and the EU and make it our Wiz HQ that all Wizards aspire to move to. Since most Wizs live our lives on the internet, location in the middle of nowhere doesn't really matter.
Wiztown USA
Wizburg, EU
R: 9 / I: 2
I did think of a possible option though: when you run a business, when they consider whether to garnish your bux, they base it on your net income, not gross income. Subtracted from the net is business expenses, and I figure if there are things I want to buy with my bux anyway (computer, fitness equipment, gardening supplies, toys for pets) that perhaps it would be smart to try and set up a shitty fail-business and when I buy those things, call them business expenses, and then I can count them against what I earn.
I wouldn't mind working more in that case (if I got to keep everything) and who knows, maybe I'd even do well at a shit business and be able to make money that way instead of a job. I'm not sure what kind of stuff to do though. If you just wanted to do something like walk dogs, mow lawns, shovel snow, could you declare that you needed to buy a computer to be able to market your business and communicate with customers via e-mail?
I'm looking for clever ideas of stuff that would make sense to buy for yourself anyway, but which it would be even smarter to regard it as a business expense. Farming seems like one of them: if you grow your own food then it would reduce the money you pay for food in stores. Even if you can't grow enough for 1 person, you could say it was your intent to do so (and heck, sure it is, who wouldn't want to be a Harvest Moon god?) and the eventual goal is to be able to pay the rent with garden vegetables sold at a market or something.
Another I'm wondering about is hunting. If you said you wanted to run a business hunting deer and then selling the meat to people, would that cover getting stuff like a truck / gun / firearms training as a business expense? I mean hell… I'm even willing to give it a try, if I was somehow able to catch more meat than I could eat then I would totally sell it.
I mean fuck… enough about the responsibiltiy-evasion roleplay, running a legitimate business would actually be cool. I'd love to be able to provide myself. I'm just being realistic that success in business doesn't seem feasible/probable so I'm not hedging my bets on it. I don't want to waste time on some shit business unless the money I put into it has inherent value toward me, as my natural assumption is that everyone will hate me and nobody will want to do business with me.
But on the off chance I'm wrong (and it's worth trying) there is a hope of conducting legitimate business, earning an income somehow. I don't want to take courses in it.. I know i'll never be some rich CEO. I just want to learn some skills, maybe get a little supplemental income, network… maybe save up enough to buy a trailer somewhere where I can live.
Apparently welfare doesn't just pay rent, it can also pay mortgage payments. It only pays MINIMUMS, so I think the key is to get a really short-term loan for a tiny property so that the minimums are high (though only high enough that you're covering the welfare maximum) yet the interest is low, so that the principal can be paid off.
At that point you could just sell the property, buy a bigger one, and continue to have welfare pay off that balance, upgrading over and over, since there is no actual upper limit on the value of your home for getting welfare, it's always exempt even if you own some 2 million dollar mansion. Not that I'd ever get there on bux, but I'm just explaining why I feel entitled to do it, because they even give bux to unemployed mansioneers.
running a BUSINESS (to hide ur bux)
I would like some advice on how to do this from anyone who has experience with it and can give some vague guidelines. I am currently getting welfare bux and the government will reduce my bux if I earn income, so it seems pointless to try because I will only be able to get minimum wage shit jobs not worth my time. There is also a problem with asset limits (though I am nowhere near that, so it won't be a problem for a while) because if you exceed them, they cut off your bux. Apparently this is much higher for people classified as disabled (which, honestly, I am, from anxiety and depression) so I hope they will recognize my disability so I won't have to worry about that limit any time soon.I did think of a possible option though: when you run a business, when they consider whether to garnish your bux, they base it on your net income, not gross income. Subtracted from the net is business expenses, and I figure if there are things I want to buy with my bux anyway (computer, fitness equipment, gardening supplies, toys for pets) that perhaps it would be smart to try and set up a shitty fail-business and when I buy those things, call them business expenses, and then I can count them against what I earn.
I wouldn't mind working more in that case (if I got to keep everything) and who knows, maybe I'd even do well at a shit business and be able to make money that way instead of a job. I'm not sure what kind of stuff to do though. If you just wanted to do something like walk dogs, mow lawns, shovel snow, could you declare that you needed to buy a computer to be able to market your business and communicate with customers via e-mail?
I'm looking for clever ideas of stuff that would make sense to buy for yourself anyway, but which it would be even smarter to regard it as a business expense. Farming seems like one of them: if you grow your own food then it would reduce the money you pay for food in stores. Even if you can't grow enough for 1 person, you could say it was your intent to do so (and heck, sure it is, who wouldn't want to be a Harvest Moon god?) and the eventual goal is to be able to pay the rent with garden vegetables sold at a market or something.
Another I'm wondering about is hunting. If you said you wanted to run a business hunting deer and then selling the meat to people, would that cover getting stuff like a truck / gun / firearms training as a business expense? I mean hell… I'm even willing to give it a try, if I was somehow able to catch more meat than I could eat then I would totally sell it.
I mean fuck… enough about the responsibiltiy-evasion roleplay, running a legitimate business would actually be cool. I'd love to be able to provide myself. I'm just being realistic that success in business doesn't seem feasible/probable so I'm not hedging my bets on it. I don't want to waste time on some shit business unless the money I put into it has inherent value toward me, as my natural assumption is that everyone will hate me and nobody will want to do business with me.
But on the off chance I'm wrong (and it's worth trying) there is a hope of conducting legitimate business, earning an income somehow. I don't want to take courses in it.. I know i'll never be some rich CEO. I just want to learn some skills, maybe get a little supplemental income, network… maybe save up enough to buy a trailer somewhere where I can live.
Apparently welfare doesn't just pay rent, it can also pay mortgage payments. It only pays MINIMUMS, so I think the key is to get a really short-term loan for a tiny property so that the minimums are high (though only high enough that you're covering the welfare maximum) yet the interest is low, so that the principal can be paid off.
At that point you could just sell the property, buy a bigger one, and continue to have welfare pay off that balance, upgrading over and over, since there is no actual upper limit on the value of your home for getting welfare, it's always exempt even if you own some 2 million dollar mansion. Not that I'd ever get there on bux, but I'm just explaining why I feel entitled to do it, because they even give bux to unemployed mansioneers.
R: 78 / I: 4
I stumbled upon an interesting podcast that I think you would also find enjoyable. A sample episode which might generate broad interest is linked here:
http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/e/a/3/ea3511c519950a8c/aspiecast_ep_15.mp3?c_id=16864314&cs_id=16864314&destination_id=171004&expiration=1549360086&hwt=2f7b822bcee92135da5ba6c1ada9df9e
The podcast is about a ~50 year old man's experiences with aspergers. I myself have debilitating ASD so I found SOME aspects of his stories relatable. More importantly, I have a very strong academic interest in autism. I know in not the only autistic person here. In any case though, his commentary on social phenomena I think many of you would find interesting or relatable.
All the episodes can be found here:http://aspiecast.libsyn.com/
Disclaimer: the host is a hypersocial normalfag and not at all wizardly. So let's not argue about wizlam please. Personally I think he's an idiot in many respects and has poor character as a person.
There is an Elliot Rodger episode, for the wizkids who give a shit about that (I personally don't).
An Interesting Podcast
Hello wizzies,I stumbled upon an interesting podcast that I think you would also find enjoyable. A sample episode which might generate broad interest is linked here:
http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/e/a/3/ea3511c519950a8c/aspiecast_ep_15.mp3?c_id=16864314&cs_id=16864314&destination_id=171004&expiration=1549360086&hwt=2f7b822bcee92135da5ba6c1ada9df9e
The podcast is about a ~50 year old man's experiences with aspergers. I myself have debilitating ASD so I found SOME aspects of his stories relatable. More importantly, I have a very strong academic interest in autism. I know in not the only autistic person here. In any case though, his commentary on social phenomena I think many of you would find interesting or relatable.
All the episodes can be found here:http://aspiecast.libsyn.com/
Disclaimer: the host is a hypersocial normalfag and not at all wizardly. So let's not argue about wizlam please. Personally I think he's an idiot in many respects and has poor character as a person.
There is an Elliot Rodger episode, for the wizkids who give a shit about that (I personally don't).
R: 309 / I: 20
Feel free to share hard won knowledge, ask questions, and discus the topics of homelessness.
Remember to be good to each other here. Trolling and shitposting is not acceptable and will be reported.
Homelessness Survival General
Inspired by the long popular and useful Absolute Homelessness Survival thread (archive link here - http://archive.is/FSyGj) and thriving interest and ongoing utility of the topic, a general thread about homelessness and survival in the harsh, sometimes cruel world is in order.Feel free to share hard won knowledge, ask questions, and discus the topics of homelessness.
Remember to be good to each other here. Trolling and shitposting is not acceptable and will be reported.
R: 2 / I: 0
this is stressing becuase I have to interact with strangers i dont know, and go into ther houses(here its normal,you put a flyer with your data and get a call,then you go to the house and give the class every week)
im very stressed about the stranger interaction,and at the same time afraid of not getting any calls to work.
the end of my neetdom is at hand.
the last stand of a wiz
Im being forced by the circumstances to give private english lessons in my spanishphone country.this is stressing becuase I have to interact with strangers i dont know, and go into ther houses(here its normal,you put a flyer with your data and get a call,then you go to the house and give the class every week)
im very stressed about the stranger interaction,and at the same time afraid of not getting any calls to work.
the end of my neetdom is at hand.
R: 45 / I: 1
Have any of you tried any nootropics and how well did they work?
Nootropics, marketing hype or life changing drugs?
So recently I've been looking into nootropics, I've never held a job and I'm a HS drop out, so I really hope this is my saving grace. I am hoping they help me study something productive like programming so I can actually achieve something.Have any of you tried any nootropics and how well did they work?
R: 38 / I: 8
Take this gentleman for example. Imagine if all those cds were ps1 games. He could ramble for 15 minutes minimum on all the great memories he had in each, the pros, cons, takeaways and nostalgia of each. Like a dedicated coffee drinker, he knows his stuff and dedicates his existence to it. And oblivious or defiant to the social pressure of groidbreeders, he proudly wears his traditional japanese kimono with pride. These heroes in the shadows are too invested in their own beautiful little inner worlds for you to take notice of them, unless you seek them out, perhaps he visits his local comic book store twice a week or attends a humble midwestern convention once a year. Perhaps you'll catch a glimpse of him picking up a pizza at 11pm in anticipation for a long night of gaming. These small town heroes are part The Big Lebowski, but that character was a bit too tryhard and social and ungenuine. These guys don't need to put on an act to go outside, they are as genuine as can be and make no excuses over preferring a night of pizza and JRPG playthroughs than going out and peacocking and attempting to breed. I salute all these small town heroes, wizard or not, who give hope to us all and make all of our existence a little less darwinian.
Small town heroes
Who are your heroes? My heroes are the kind-hearted souls who are passionate with their modest hobbies and live a life of eternal adolescence. Think the guy who lives for anime or the collector or the toy train enthusiast. And who are so genuine gentle and not of this world that they are seen as fossils to the outside world.Take this gentleman for example. Imagine if all those cds were ps1 games. He could ramble for 15 minutes minimum on all the great memories he had in each, the pros, cons, takeaways and nostalgia of each. Like a dedicated coffee drinker, he knows his stuff and dedicates his existence to it. And oblivious or defiant to the social pressure of groidbreeders, he proudly wears his traditional japanese kimono with pride. These heroes in the shadows are too invested in their own beautiful little inner worlds for you to take notice of them, unless you seek them out, perhaps he visits his local comic book store twice a week or attends a humble midwestern convention once a year. Perhaps you'll catch a glimpse of him picking up a pizza at 11pm in anticipation for a long night of gaming. These small town heroes are part The Big Lebowski, but that character was a bit too tryhard and social and ungenuine. These guys don't need to put on an act to go outside, they are as genuine as can be and make no excuses over preferring a night of pizza and JRPG playthroughs than going out and peacocking and attempting to breed. I salute all these small town heroes, wizard or not, who give hope to us all and make all of our existence a little less darwinian.
R: 8 / I: 1
Here's an example of some of the text in this thing:
>I GIVE, DEVISE AND BEQUEATH all of my property, both real and personal, of every nature and kind, wheresoever situate, including any property over which I may have a general power of appointment, to my Trustee upon the following trusts:
>(a) To pay out of and charge to the general capital of my estate all my just debts, funeral and testamentary expenses
>(b) My Trustee shall pay out of and charge to the capital of my general estate as if the same were debts of mine incurred by me during my lifetime all succession, estate and inheritance duties or taxes whether imposed by or pursuant to the law of this or any other jurisdiction whatsoever
>(c) I DIRECT my Trustees that without imposing any trust or any binding obligation on my Trustee, it is my wish that my Trustees dispose of the remaining articles of personal, domestic and household use or ornament, including any automobiles, other vehicles, boats and accessories thereto, in accordance with any existing or future memorandum that I may leave.
>(d) I DIRECT my Trustee to divide the rest, remainder and residue of my estate into as many equal shares as may be necessary to give effect to the following:
>>i) I DIRECT my Trustee to deliver FIFTY (50) of such equal shares to my son, OLDERBRO if he shall survive me for his own use absolutely and to be held for him upon those trust terms set out herein.
>>>PROVIDED if OLDERBRO shall fail to survive me leaving issue surviving him and living at my death, such issue shall take and if more than one in equal shares per stirpes the FIFTY (50) equal shares to which my son, OLDERBRO, would have received had he survived me; and
>>ii) I DIRECT my Trustee to deliver FIFTY (50) of such equal shares to my son, YOUNGERBRO if he shall survive me for his own use absolutely and to be held for him upon those trust terms set out herein.
>>>PROVIDED if YOUNGERBRO shall fail to survive me leaving issue surviving him and living at my death, such issue shall take and if more than one in equal shares per stirpes the FIFTY (50) equal shares to which my son YOUNGERBRO, would have received had he survived me.
>(e) If, as the result of the distributions provided for in my Will, a grandchild of mine becomes entitled to receive any amount out of the capital of the residue of my estate before attaining age 25, the amount (referred to as “the part”) shall be held and invested by my Trustee upon the following terms:
>>Until such grandchild attains age 25, my Trustee shall pay to him or her or apply to his or her support and education so much of the income and capital of the part as my Trustee in the exercise of an absolute discretion considers appropriate from time to time. Any surplus income shall be accumulated and added to the part.
>>>When such grandchild attains the age of 25, my Trustee shall transfer the balance of the part to him or her.
>(f) If my son, OLDERBRO, should receive an interest in my estate pursuant to the provisions of this my Will (herein him “share”) my trustees shall set aside and keep invested OLDERBRO's share of my estate for the benefit of my said son, OLDERBRO, and during the lifetime of my said son my Trustees shall keep such share invested and pay any amount or amounts or the whole of the annual net income therefrom together with any amount or amounts or the whole of the capital thereof to or for the benefit of my said son as my Trustees shall, in the exercise of an absolute and unfettered discretion, consider advisable from time to time.
>>Any income not so paid in accordance with the foregoing provisions shall be accumulated by my Trustees and added to the capital of such share, provided, however, that after the expiration of a period of twenty-one (21) years after the establishment of this share for my said son, the said income not so paid in any year to or for the benefit of my said son shall be paid to those of my issue, other than my son OLDERBRO who shall be alive at the end of each such year in equal shares for his or her own use absolutely.
>(g) If my son, YOUNGERBRO, should receive an interest in my estate pursuant to the provisions of this my Will (herein him “share”) my trustees shall set aside and keep invested YOUNGERBRO's share of my estate for the benefit of my said son, YOUNGERBRO, and during the lifetime of my said son my Trustees shall keep such share invested and pay any amount or amounts or the whole of the annual net income therefrom together with any amount or amounts or the whole of the capital thereof to or for the benefit of my said son as my Trustees shall, in the exercise of an absolute and unfettered discretion, consider advisable from time to time.
>>Any income not so paid in accordance with the foregoing provisions shall be accumulated by my Trustees and added to the capital of such share, provided, however, that after the expiration of a period of twenty-one (21) years after the establishment of this share for my said son, the said income not so paid in any year to or for the benefit of my said son shall be paid to those of my issue, other than my son YOUNGERBRO who shall be alive at the end of each such year in equal shares for his or her own use absolutely.
>(h) If at the death of the last survivor of my issue and me (the "Date of Vesting"), any portion of my estate remains undisposed of, I direct my Trustees to divide such portion between those of YOUNGER YOUNGER SISTER and OLDER SIS if they shall be alive at the Date of Vesting in equal shares each for her own use absolutely.
>>PROVIDED if either of YOUNGER YOUNGER SISTER and OLDER YOUNGER SISTER shall have predeceased the Date of Vesting leaving issue surviving her and living at such time, then such issue shall take and if more than one in equal shares per stirpes the share to which either of YOUNGER YOUNGER SISTER and OLDER YOUNGER SISTER would have received had she survived the Date of Vesting.
So basically, me and my younger brother are fucked. If I am reading this right, my aunt can simply sit on the money for 21 years, and she and her husband will probably die of old age during that time (they're only about 5 years younger than my mom, and even more obese) at which point control of her estate will likely revert to that of her chad son, who is younger than me and who probably despises both me and my brother.
He owns a firearm and has connections with law enforcement meaning he can probably have us suicided tidily so that he and his bro and split their half of my mom's estate.
It's hard to express the amount of rage I feel at how little regard my mom has for my decisionmaking. I'm over 30. Yeah, my life isn't that together, so I can understand wanting to put the money in trust for a couple years, maybe even FIVE, but TWENTY-ONE??? Where did she even get this number? That's not from NOW either, that's counting from DATE OF DEATH. So if she lives 20 more years, I'm waiting a total of 41 years and will be in my 70s before I'm guaranteed access to anything.
I also don't get why it's the exact same length of time for both me and my younger brother, based on our age difference he should wait at least 5 more years than me to get access. Probably more, because I have much better financial management skills than he does, not to mention he will be getting a HUGE inheritance from his dad, while I have no dad in my life to get an inheritance from.
I pointed it out and she just fucking ignores me… I'm essentially fucked if my aunt doesn't want to help me because she has 100% control over everything according to this, so if I upset her in any way she can prevent access to it, as can her son.
Meanwhile, if 16 years ago I had decided to go rape some succubus instead of retaining my virginity as I have, a child resulting from that would be capable of inheriting this in 10 more years. I envy the hypothetical orphaned children I might have had, as my mother appears to have more trust in the financial management skills of some grandkid she's never met (they get access at 25) than in me.
I suppose it's not the WORST thing (I'm sure there are some wizards who have been written out of wills ENTIRELY) but it just FEELS like I have… like this is all some machination to try and pressure me to reproduce, or to force me to stay connected with family and be subservient to them. I don't mean to compete with guys completely abandoned by parents (you win the pity olympics) but I'd like to know for those of us in the middle (not the worst off, not the best off) if you could commiserate and share similar legal difficulties you have experienced with wills+testaments.
parental wills & testaments
Anyone dealt with this issue before? My mom wastes hours of my time asking me to review documents like these only to completely ignore the problems I highlight in them and completely puts her trust in some fucking stranger who just wants to burn the retainer she gives them while not carrying out her wishes in the slightest. She even admitted she didn't even read the thing when I asked what had been changed: she didn't know, besides having name the backup executor.Here's an example of some of the text in this thing:
>I GIVE, DEVISE AND BEQUEATH all of my property, both real and personal, of every nature and kind, wheresoever situate, including any property over which I may have a general power of appointment, to my Trustee upon the following trusts:
>(a) To pay out of and charge to the general capital of my estate all my just debts, funeral and testamentary expenses
>(b) My Trustee shall pay out of and charge to the capital of my general estate as if the same were debts of mine incurred by me during my lifetime all succession, estate and inheritance duties or taxes whether imposed by or pursuant to the law of this or any other jurisdiction whatsoever
>(c) I DIRECT my Trustees that without imposing any trust or any binding obligation on my Trustee, it is my wish that my Trustees dispose of the remaining articles of personal, domestic and household use or ornament, including any automobiles, other vehicles, boats and accessories thereto, in accordance with any existing or future memorandum that I may leave.
>(d) I DIRECT my Trustee to divide the rest, remainder and residue of my estate into as many equal shares as may be necessary to give effect to the following:
>>i) I DIRECT my Trustee to deliver FIFTY (50) of such equal shares to my son, OLDERBRO if he shall survive me for his own use absolutely and to be held for him upon those trust terms set out herein.
>>>PROVIDED if OLDERBRO shall fail to survive me leaving issue surviving him and living at my death, such issue shall take and if more than one in equal shares per stirpes the FIFTY (50) equal shares to which my son, OLDERBRO, would have received had he survived me; and
>>ii) I DIRECT my Trustee to deliver FIFTY (50) of such equal shares to my son, YOUNGERBRO if he shall survive me for his own use absolutely and to be held for him upon those trust terms set out herein.
>>>PROVIDED if YOUNGERBRO shall fail to survive me leaving issue surviving him and living at my death, such issue shall take and if more than one in equal shares per stirpes the FIFTY (50) equal shares to which my son YOUNGERBRO, would have received had he survived me.
>(e) If, as the result of the distributions provided for in my Will, a grandchild of mine becomes entitled to receive any amount out of the capital of the residue of my estate before attaining age 25, the amount (referred to as “the part”) shall be held and invested by my Trustee upon the following terms:
>>Until such grandchild attains age 25, my Trustee shall pay to him or her or apply to his or her support and education so much of the income and capital of the part as my Trustee in the exercise of an absolute discretion considers appropriate from time to time. Any surplus income shall be accumulated and added to the part.
>>>When such grandchild attains the age of 25, my Trustee shall transfer the balance of the part to him or her.
>(f) If my son, OLDERBRO, should receive an interest in my estate pursuant to the provisions of this my Will (herein him “share”) my trustees shall set aside and keep invested OLDERBRO's share of my estate for the benefit of my said son, OLDERBRO, and during the lifetime of my said son my Trustees shall keep such share invested and pay any amount or amounts or the whole of the annual net income therefrom together with any amount or amounts or the whole of the capital thereof to or for the benefit of my said son as my Trustees shall, in the exercise of an absolute and unfettered discretion, consider advisable from time to time.
>>Any income not so paid in accordance with the foregoing provisions shall be accumulated by my Trustees and added to the capital of such share, provided, however, that after the expiration of a period of twenty-one (21) years after the establishment of this share for my said son, the said income not so paid in any year to or for the benefit of my said son shall be paid to those of my issue, other than my son OLDERBRO who shall be alive at the end of each such year in equal shares for his or her own use absolutely.
>(g) If my son, YOUNGERBRO, should receive an interest in my estate pursuant to the provisions of this my Will (herein him “share”) my trustees shall set aside and keep invested YOUNGERBRO's share of my estate for the benefit of my said son, YOUNGERBRO, and during the lifetime of my said son my Trustees shall keep such share invested and pay any amount or amounts or the whole of the annual net income therefrom together with any amount or amounts or the whole of the capital thereof to or for the benefit of my said son as my Trustees shall, in the exercise of an absolute and unfettered discretion, consider advisable from time to time.
>>Any income not so paid in accordance with the foregoing provisions shall be accumulated by my Trustees and added to the capital of such share, provided, however, that after the expiration of a period of twenty-one (21) years after the establishment of this share for my said son, the said income not so paid in any year to or for the benefit of my said son shall be paid to those of my issue, other than my son YOUNGERBRO who shall be alive at the end of each such year in equal shares for his or her own use absolutely.
>(h) If at the death of the last survivor of my issue and me (the "Date of Vesting"), any portion of my estate remains undisposed of, I direct my Trustees to divide such portion between those of YOUNGER YOUNGER SISTER and OLDER SIS if they shall be alive at the Date of Vesting in equal shares each for her own use absolutely.
>>PROVIDED if either of YOUNGER YOUNGER SISTER and OLDER YOUNGER SISTER shall have predeceased the Date of Vesting leaving issue surviving her and living at such time, then such issue shall take and if more than one in equal shares per stirpes the share to which either of YOUNGER YOUNGER SISTER and OLDER YOUNGER SISTER would have received had she survived the Date of Vesting.
So basically, me and my younger brother are fucked. If I am reading this right, my aunt can simply sit on the money for 21 years, and she and her husband will probably die of old age during that time (they're only about 5 years younger than my mom, and even more obese) at which point control of her estate will likely revert to that of her chad son, who is younger than me and who probably despises both me and my brother.
He owns a firearm and has connections with law enforcement meaning he can probably have us suicided tidily so that he and his bro and split their half of my mom's estate.
It's hard to express the amount of rage I feel at how little regard my mom has for my decisionmaking. I'm over 30. Yeah, my life isn't that together, so I can understand wanting to put the money in trust for a couple years, maybe even FIVE, but TWENTY-ONE??? Where did she even get this number? That's not from NOW either, that's counting from DATE OF DEATH. So if she lives 20 more years, I'm waiting a total of 41 years and will be in my 70s before I'm guaranteed access to anything.
I also don't get why it's the exact same length of time for both me and my younger brother, based on our age difference he should wait at least 5 more years than me to get access. Probably more, because I have much better financial management skills than he does, not to mention he will be getting a HUGE inheritance from his dad, while I have no dad in my life to get an inheritance from.
I pointed it out and she just fucking ignores me… I'm essentially fucked if my aunt doesn't want to help me because she has 100% control over everything according to this, so if I upset her in any way she can prevent access to it, as can her son.
Meanwhile, if 16 years ago I had decided to go rape some succubus instead of retaining my virginity as I have, a child resulting from that would be capable of inheriting this in 10 more years. I envy the hypothetical orphaned children I might have had, as my mother appears to have more trust in the financial management skills of some grandkid she's never met (they get access at 25) than in me.
I suppose it's not the WORST thing (I'm sure there are some wizards who have been written out of wills ENTIRELY) but it just FEELS like I have… like this is all some machination to try and pressure me to reproduce, or to force me to stay connected with family and be subservient to them. I don't mean to compete with guys completely abandoned by parents (you win the pity olympics) but I'd like to know for those of us in the middle (not the worst off, not the best off) if you could commiserate and share similar legal difficulties you have experienced with wills+testaments.
R: 20 / I: 3
this is what hermits looked like in the early days of christian monasticism
they wore leaves as underwear
this is what hermits looked like in the early days of christian monasticism
they wore leaves as underwear
R: 9 / I: 1
I've always tried to embrace this idea of standing alone and the self-sufficient notion of the man as an island. Embracing the attempts to find refuge in my mind and let the world wash over me; to stand apart from the crowd and treat them like another chaotic and undirected force of nature. Being content with my own company and living with my own worldview. However - it seems there is one unresolved issue I have.
This is not a political post, or a post about actually joining other people, but a discussion on imagination and imagined beliefs. Pretending we have an army or are part of a large machine which is probably impossible to have in real life. Coming in to contact with the increasingly popular "right-wing" culture I have felt the slight intoxication they get from the language and idea of being part of a large group, of a defined group with shared interests, and having an army behind them. I find my mind sometimes dragged to it in a form of role-play despite no interest in their actual politics. This ability to be at war with groups who are against you and to know you have a group behind you.
Despite all my work on my own tranquillity of mind I think my mental vulnerability makes it clear how much others can dominate me. I have a weak mind and others actions do have significant affects on my mind. I also grew up in a situation where my family were the victim of lies and authority figures asserting things I knew to be falsehoods, undermining much of my trust in them; as well as general bullying scenarios and experiences of being an outcast wizard. I presume I have never been able to get over the knowledge that the crowd will come for you and an individual is very weak against the crowd. The myth of the individual with power never rooted in me.
I don't think about the crowd consciously but I've noticed this imagination and role-play of having an army behind me gives me a comfort. It answers a lack I felt about this subject that was always slightly there in the background. I keep the army undefined and formless in my mind but imagine it there behind me. If I'm trying to bridge it to reality I just say I will have this army in the future, and as such it is there but I can blend imagination and reality pretty easily. The confidence that comes with having a group. Maybe I am just weak and cannot maintain this individualism and maybe this is just ticking the right biological social aspects that exist - the imagination fulfilling the urges of an overly social brain. It does not feel like the urge to belong and does not take the form of imagining actually interacting with other people but is much more power dynamic shifting.
Maybe it is merely the only representation of power available to me as an outcast who looks in on the world without much interaction with it, the stories of armies and nations may be the only representation of being in control available. The only expression of the will of power, or, the only answer to the feelings of the crowds domination and power over us; the weakness I cannot just pretend does not exist. I can pretend to have an army though in emotional terms and it seems to bring a silence to anxiety I couldn't place before. How about you?
Imagined group and imagined armies
Does the thought of having an army, or being part of a giant army, give you comfort?I've always tried to embrace this idea of standing alone and the self-sufficient notion of the man as an island. Embracing the attempts to find refuge in my mind and let the world wash over me; to stand apart from the crowd and treat them like another chaotic and undirected force of nature. Being content with my own company and living with my own worldview. However - it seems there is one unresolved issue I have.
This is not a political post, or a post about actually joining other people, but a discussion on imagination and imagined beliefs. Pretending we have an army or are part of a large machine which is probably impossible to have in real life. Coming in to contact with the increasingly popular "right-wing" culture I have felt the slight intoxication they get from the language and idea of being part of a large group, of a defined group with shared interests, and having an army behind them. I find my mind sometimes dragged to it in a form of role-play despite no interest in their actual politics. This ability to be at war with groups who are against you and to know you have a group behind you.
Despite all my work on my own tranquillity of mind I think my mental vulnerability makes it clear how much others can dominate me. I have a weak mind and others actions do have significant affects on my mind. I also grew up in a situation where my family were the victim of lies and authority figures asserting things I knew to be falsehoods, undermining much of my trust in them; as well as general bullying scenarios and experiences of being an outcast wizard. I presume I have never been able to get over the knowledge that the crowd will come for you and an individual is very weak against the crowd. The myth of the individual with power never rooted in me.
I don't think about the crowd consciously but I've noticed this imagination and role-play of having an army behind me gives me a comfort. It answers a lack I felt about this subject that was always slightly there in the background. I keep the army undefined and formless in my mind but imagine it there behind me. If I'm trying to bridge it to reality I just say I will have this army in the future, and as such it is there but I can blend imagination and reality pretty easily. The confidence that comes with having a group. Maybe I am just weak and cannot maintain this individualism and maybe this is just ticking the right biological social aspects that exist - the imagination fulfilling the urges of an overly social brain. It does not feel like the urge to belong and does not take the form of imagining actually interacting with other people but is much more power dynamic shifting.
Maybe it is merely the only representation of power available to me as an outcast who looks in on the world without much interaction with it, the stories of armies and nations may be the only representation of being in control available. The only expression of the will of power, or, the only answer to the feelings of the crowds domination and power over us; the weakness I cannot just pretend does not exist. I can pretend to have an army though in emotional terms and it seems to bring a silence to anxiety I couldn't place before. How about you?
R: 15 / I: 0
dads, siblings' dads, stepdads, maternal boyfriends
I would like to know my fellows' experience with dealing with these categories of people in your life. I've had encounters with all 4 (separate individuals) at various times in my life and found them upsetting in various ways. They've all let me down. I've never felt loved by any of them. I feel like I'm the inherent target of all of their hatred, that they all wish I was dead. I'm angry at my mother for her poor choices and not being choosier and holding higher standards. I listed in them in order of encounter. Each is more awkward than the last. Each is less sane and stable than the last. Each is more violent than the last. Each is more NPCish than the last. I feel like I get pulled into conflicts, manipulated, used as a buffer, when as the person who choose to bring them into our life, my mom should be the buffer and should not be obligating me to interact with them.
R: 121 / I: 7
If any wizard here wishes to obtain independency one day (as in moving away from your parents home and having enough steady income to live a decent life), I urge you not to enter college or uni and pursue a degree. The job market for these types of jobs is very oversaturated and extremely competetive, since the whole "go to college and become something"-meme has gone way, way overboard in mainstream society, already many years ago. It is also extremely nepotism-driven, since the jobs themselves are about 50% nonsense, so people will obviously hire friends and family, when there barely even is a job that needs to be done to begin with. For this reason it is also very social.
Assuming you have the physical health/condition to do manual labour, you should pursue a "career" in a skilled labour job that few people want to do, such as being an industrial painter or something. Even if you are a fucking genious, you should do this. The job market is destroyed, this world is completely destroyed. I shake my head when I read about wizards being in university or college, knowing what fate most of these people are in for.
If any wizard here wishes to obtain independency one day (as in moving away from your parents home and having enough steady income to live a decent life), I urge you not to enter college or uni and pursue a degree. The job market for these types of jobs is very oversaturated and extremely competetive, since the whole "go to college and become something"-meme has gone way, way overboard in mainstream society, already many years ago. It is also extremely nepotism-driven, since the jobs themselves are about 50% nonsense, so people will obviously hire friends and family, when there barely even is a job that needs to be done to begin with. For this reason it is also very social.
Assuming you have the physical health/condition to do manual labour, you should pursue a "career" in a skilled labour job that few people want to do, such as being an industrial painter or something. Even if you are a fucking genious, you should do this. The job market is destroyed, this world is completely destroyed. I shake my head when I read about wizards being in university or college, knowing what fate most of these people are in for.
R: 3 / I: 0
Now looking back on the matter as an adult though, I've come to see the social utility of this whole thing. I very much believe in evolutionary psychology because I believe in evolution and I started to think to myself, what purpose does this type of behavior serve? Well clearly, social networking is fucking everything in human society. The person who is best at social networking literally rules the whole damn society, others are at the elites, always networking and climbing the hierarchical structure of society. They make connections with people and leverage those connections to get the things that they want. The more people you know, the more you can make them like you, the better off you will be in life.
Now think about what it takes to be up on the latest trends. The trends are set by the elites, so to know about a trend early on indicates that you have social connections with the elites. It's kind of like an advertisement to people saying that you're a good guy to know because you know all the right people. The nerd only learns about the trend after it is dead because he is not in the right crowds and doesn't hear about it until it has trickled down the social ladder. Therefore the way we act, the things we wear, the lingo we use, all serves to differentiate social status from elites to untouchables. The trends that happen in high school never go away, they rule all of society.
Honestly this is why I hate normies, it's all just so fucking stupid. I reject it because I am conscious of it and I hate this fucking world where everyone bows down to our overlords. These people are beneath us whether they realize it or not because at least we are our own people, we are not dogs to the system.
Popularity
I wanted to take a moment to discuss the topic of popularity. As a child I noticed that all the popular kids all followed the same trends. They used special lingo, they dressed a certain way, had common interests, they were basically walking memes. Whatever was trendy was what the popular kids were doing and that was influenced more by the culture outside of them, the artists and musicians, designers, etc all pushed the bleeding edge of culture and the quicker you were to pick up on it, the cooler you were basically. By the time the lowest of the nerds finally started doing something, all the popular kids would have moved on to the next thing. Watching this process as a child it always seemed so ridiculous. I was watching these people just appropriate portions of pop culture as parts of their own identity out of what seemed like nothing more than an instinctual desire to follow the herd. I always said fuck it and just ignored all the trends because I thought they were so stupid.Now looking back on the matter as an adult though, I've come to see the social utility of this whole thing. I very much believe in evolutionary psychology because I believe in evolution and I started to think to myself, what purpose does this type of behavior serve? Well clearly, social networking is fucking everything in human society. The person who is best at social networking literally rules the whole damn society, others are at the elites, always networking and climbing the hierarchical structure of society. They make connections with people and leverage those connections to get the things that they want. The more people you know, the more you can make them like you, the better off you will be in life.
Now think about what it takes to be up on the latest trends. The trends are set by the elites, so to know about a trend early on indicates that you have social connections with the elites. It's kind of like an advertisement to people saying that you're a good guy to know because you know all the right people. The nerd only learns about the trend after it is dead because he is not in the right crowds and doesn't hear about it until it has trickled down the social ladder. Therefore the way we act, the things we wear, the lingo we use, all serves to differentiate social status from elites to untouchables. The trends that happen in high school never go away, they rule all of society.
Honestly this is why I hate normies, it's all just so fucking stupid. I reject it because I am conscious of it and I hate this fucking world where everyone bows down to our overlords. These people are beneath us whether they realize it or not because at least we are our own people, we are not dogs to the system.
R: 26 / I: 3
You've shunned succubi.
Have you shunned femininity in general?
Or does the gentle, deceptive, chaotic and mysterious naturally repel wizards?
You've shunned succubi.
Have you shunned femininity in general?
Or does the gentle, deceptive, chaotic and mysterious naturally repel wizards?
R: 46 / I: 4
Seriously, do you think that self diagnosis can be done? Because I do and I will never pay for a psychologist. But normies of course just say the line "seek help"
Seriously, do you think that self diagnosis can be done? Because I do and I will never pay for a psychologist. But normies of course just say the line "seek help"
R: 71 / I: 9
How do you stay mentally healthy while having no friends or really anyone to talk to?
Solitary confinement is a punishment for a reason. Yet do not advise me to talk to people, I won't do it. I can't decide which is worse, becoming mentally ill or enduring another's company. Of course, if I could be alone and retain my sanity it would be great. But is it possible? If so, how?
R: 113 / I: 4
Sexual pleasure is the highest reward circuitry of the mammal, theres no point denying it. But these brains weren't meant to cope with the challenge of streaming HD VR porn. And thats were NoFap comes in. Where you see all these normie and potential normie men. Men with wives and gfs. Who give all that up because porn is so much better than the reality. And they are so torn up about it. Because they should like 3d reality meatspace more, but their brains don't.
So in that sense we as Wizards can admit that sexual pleasure is the cookie jar reward of evolution, but we stole it without doing our homework first.
What does this have to do with Super AI? Because in the very very distant future, long past the Terminator Singularity stage, when Super AI has processed every atom in the universe. It will all serve one utilitarian function. To maximize the pleasure of a gazillion simulated minds. Theres no need for a story or history to get mind to orgasm. Just skip all that to the moment of pleasure and make it eternal, a gazillion times over. And that is what the universe will be. The final fulfillment of the utilitarian calculus. The maximization of pleasure without pain.
So to fap to HD porn is to benefit from the primitive reward circuitry of evolution, but it is also to disconnect the pleasure from story and effort and suffering and to see to the future of the universe of Super AI and the Orgasmium (also known as hedonium)
https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Orgasmium
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1413237-consider-an-ai-that-has-hedonism-as-its-final-goal
What does Nofap and Super AI have in common?
A lot of Wizards hold to an EvoPsych, Sociobiological, Darwinian worldview. But then where does that leave us as Wizard virgins? The whole goal and point of this viewpoint is sexual reproduction.Sexual pleasure is the highest reward circuitry of the mammal, theres no point denying it. But these brains weren't meant to cope with the challenge of streaming HD VR porn. And thats were NoFap comes in. Where you see all these normie and potential normie men. Men with wives and gfs. Who give all that up because porn is so much better than the reality. And they are so torn up about it. Because they should like 3d reality meatspace more, but their brains don't.
So in that sense we as Wizards can admit that sexual pleasure is the cookie jar reward of evolution, but we stole it without doing our homework first.
What does this have to do with Super AI? Because in the very very distant future, long past the Terminator Singularity stage, when Super AI has processed every atom in the universe. It will all serve one utilitarian function. To maximize the pleasure of a gazillion simulated minds. Theres no need for a story or history to get mind to orgasm. Just skip all that to the moment of pleasure and make it eternal, a gazillion times over. And that is what the universe will be. The final fulfillment of the utilitarian calculus. The maximization of pleasure without pain.
So to fap to HD porn is to benefit from the primitive reward circuitry of evolution, but it is also to disconnect the pleasure from story and effort and suffering and to see to the future of the universe of Super AI and the Orgasmium (also known as hedonium)
https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Orgasmium
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1413237-consider-an-ai-that-has-hedonism-as-its-final-goal
R: 6 / I: 0
Here is a great playlist of different ideas.
I'd love a tiny home on wheels to just travel all over the world.
Tiny House Movement
Any wizzie here looking to get a tiny home?Here is a great playlist of different ideas.
I'd love a tiny home on wheels to just travel all over the world.
R: 183 / I: 11
Anyone else didn't learn to drive until your late 20s or even later in life? I haven't because I never had friends or family willing to help teach me or pay for lessons, and the costs of actually owning a car were, and are still, cost prohibitive.
But what changed my mind is realizing how helpless I am not even being able to drive, and it will only get harder the older I get. I want to be able to just rent a van, load up my belongings and move if need be, get jobs that require driving a company vehicle, and just to be able to rent a car to get somewhere instead of taking the bus filled with disgusting smelly people.
My fears are that since I have no one to practice with, just taking a 2 hour lesson every week, it will take a long time and be expensive to get my license in the first place, and afterwards not having a car I might get rusty, forget stuff and fuck up when I do drive.
Had a few lessons so far, and learned quickly how to drive on the road, but still oversteer and having lots of fuck-ups when trying to park.
Anyone else didn't learn to drive until your late 20s or even later in life? I haven't because I never had friends or family willing to help teach me or pay for lessons, and the costs of actually owning a car were, and are still, cost prohibitive.
But what changed my mind is realizing how helpless I am not even being able to drive, and it will only get harder the older I get. I want to be able to just rent a van, load up my belongings and move if need be, get jobs that require driving a company vehicle, and just to be able to rent a car to get somewhere instead of taking the bus filled with disgusting smelly people.
My fears are that since I have no one to practice with, just taking a 2 hour lesson every week, it will take a long time and be expensive to get my license in the first place, and afterwards not having a car I might get rusty, forget stuff and fuck up when I do drive.
Had a few lessons so far, and learned quickly how to drive on the road, but still oversteer and having lots of fuck-ups when trying to park.
R: 23 / I: 0
I recognize the world is a terrible horrible place. But what am I going to do about it? I can't change it. I can suicide. But if I'm not going to suicide today, I need to find a way to live the next week with the most possible happiness. Its Stoicism. I can't change the world, but I can change how my mind looks at the world. As long as I'm not going to suicide today, why should I voluntarily focus my mental energies on being miserable?
Where normies go wrong is where they try to use positive thinking to change the world, or at least their status in the world. A Stoic knows he can only control the internal not the external. So these false beliefs about the external world, lead to poor decisions and failure. Elliot Rodger using The Secret to will winning the lottery is a good example.
Dr.Pangloss never denied the facts of the world as it is. He didn't claim that syphilis was a fake news conspiracy theory. He just looked on the bright side for a silver lining that the common cause of both syphillis and chocolate was the discovery of the Americas. No syphillis, no chocolate. I think that is a healthy attitude to have. And I now look on Dr.Pangloss as the hero of Candide. He goes on all the same miserable misadventures as Candide. But he is able to use his Leibnizian dialectic to always accentuate the positive in any miserable situation.
The world is a miserable place and I should suicide today, but as long as I don't look on the bright side.
Do you think there could be something to positive thinking, bright siding, silver lining?
I know its the epitome of the happy shiny normie people. Just turn that frown upside down. Smile. Look on the bright side. Find the silver lining in the best of all possible worlds. Dr.Pangloss. Pollyanna. But maybe theres something to it.I recognize the world is a terrible horrible place. But what am I going to do about it? I can't change it. I can suicide. But if I'm not going to suicide today, I need to find a way to live the next week with the most possible happiness. Its Stoicism. I can't change the world, but I can change how my mind looks at the world. As long as I'm not going to suicide today, why should I voluntarily focus my mental energies on being miserable?
Where normies go wrong is where they try to use positive thinking to change the world, or at least their status in the world. A Stoic knows he can only control the internal not the external. So these false beliefs about the external world, lead to poor decisions and failure. Elliot Rodger using The Secret to will winning the lottery is a good example.
Dr.Pangloss never denied the facts of the world as it is. He didn't claim that syphilis was a fake news conspiracy theory. He just looked on the bright side for a silver lining that the common cause of both syphillis and chocolate was the discovery of the Americas. No syphillis, no chocolate. I think that is a healthy attitude to have. And I now look on Dr.Pangloss as the hero of Candide. He goes on all the same miserable misadventures as Candide. But he is able to use his Leibnizian dialectic to always accentuate the positive in any miserable situation.
The world is a miserable place and I should suicide today, but as long as I don't look on the bright side.
R: 14 / I: 0
Topics of study would be anti-natalist and pessimist philosophy, the ethics of volcelism, the sociology of wizard life, the economics of NEETdom and other areas of interest. Articles would be peer-reviewed by Wizards.
We would put all our restless academic energy to good use in an active direction. We would better understand why we are Wizards, the moral case for Wizardry and the best way to be Wizards.
We could also potentially hold non-accredited graduate level classes in Wizardry taught by Wizards in distance learning to other Wizards.
Wizard Think Tank and Academic Journal
What would you think about establishing a Wizardchan Think Tank and academic journal?Topics of study would be anti-natalist and pessimist philosophy, the ethics of volcelism, the sociology of wizard life, the economics of NEETdom and other areas of interest. Articles would be peer-reviewed by Wizards.
We would put all our restless academic energy to good use in an active direction. We would better understand why we are Wizards, the moral case for Wizardry and the best way to be Wizards.
We could also potentially hold non-accredited graduate level classes in Wizardry taught by Wizards in distance learning to other Wizards.
R: 42 / I: 5
Every time she thinks she's somehow getting to know me, she's just stretching our relationship thinner and thinner. Any time she backs off and just shoots the shit about the latest scifi I think both of us could enjoy, that actually repairs our relationship and allows me to feel comfortable. But it's like because we're not talking about ME and FEELS that somehow it's not a connection? This is something normies just can't seem to understand, bonding over a mutual appreciation of something entirely disconnected. I think succubi in particular have this problem. They need to try and relate any discussion to personal events.
I'm burned on that idea forever. Maybe it's something I could've enjoyed if it hadn't been overdone? Who knows, maybe I might gain a capacity for it some day. But any miniscule part of me which might want to is wiped out every time these 100+ minute marathons happen. I know I will always be subjected to them unless I am working and giving her money. But I know I will be unhappy and grumpy and want time to myself if I do that, and she will hate me for that. So if I will be hated and harassed no matter what I do, why try? May as well maximize my leisure time and leech. There is no incentive to contribute when you cannot reasonably expect improvements as a result.
Family sit-downs
How often are you subjected to them where you are interrogated by a parent, and for how long, if you had to gander? I just had to suffer through about 3 hours of it tonight. She can't grasp the irony that as she tells me not to worry about what she wants, to take time for myself… she is communicating the exact opposite to me by engaging me in personal conversation related to me (which upsets me) instead of just sitting down and watching a TV series and commenting on it (which makes me happy).Every time she thinks she's somehow getting to know me, she's just stretching our relationship thinner and thinner. Any time she backs off and just shoots the shit about the latest scifi I think both of us could enjoy, that actually repairs our relationship and allows me to feel comfortable. But it's like because we're not talking about ME and FEELS that somehow it's not a connection? This is something normies just can't seem to understand, bonding over a mutual appreciation of something entirely disconnected. I think succubi in particular have this problem. They need to try and relate any discussion to personal events.
I'm burned on that idea forever. Maybe it's something I could've enjoyed if it hadn't been overdone? Who knows, maybe I might gain a capacity for it some day. But any miniscule part of me which might want to is wiped out every time these 100+ minute marathons happen. I know I will always be subjected to them unless I am working and giving her money. But I know I will be unhappy and grumpy and want time to myself if I do that, and she will hate me for that. So if I will be hated and harassed no matter what I do, why try? May as well maximize my leisure time and leech. There is no incentive to contribute when you cannot reasonably expect improvements as a result.
R: 80 / I: 14
Also post your scores if you like.
High reliability Autism test
Anyone else never officially diagnosed with autism? Your RMET score is supposedly a strong predictor of autism. I thought most questions felt impossible but still didn't do as bad as I thought.Also post your scores if you like.
R: 1 / I: 0
Hi Wizards
I wrote down some reflections on nostalgia this morning. Thought I would share some of my wisdom; gather round the fire
Nostalgia
Is nostalgia a good thing? It draws us into reliving same experiences as what we once had. Why? So that we may pick and choose the best times within our memory, in order to improve our current state of happiness. While there is an obvious sort of logic to this strategy, which lies in the underlying premise that one should do what has previously been successful, there are some drawbacks that become plain with a little thought.
First, it may be impossible to relive those experiences. This is because the world and the self have materially changed since the occurrences of the experiences sought after. After all, the best events occur spontaneously and so enjoyment is had, such that one hardly notices the time or what it really was that made those experiences so wonderful (the loss of time also causes further yearning because we wish to prolong what was shortened). Thus there is little science to how they were created in the first place, and if you had paid enough attention to tell them you weren’t really enjoying yourself to begin with.
Second, the memory or imagination distorts and perfects things. The forgetfulness resulting from a loss of time induced by happiness only adds to the ability of the imagination to work to this effect as hands upon clay: the images themselves are ill-formed and yet connected to so much good feeling, so that the imagination cannot help to draw in the blanks as perfectly as it is able. The ability to scrub out details that are unliked is also much abused, to much the same end.
But thirdly there is the fact that reliving what is past is an immature way of clinging to known knowns and thereby prevent oneself from the journey of progression to greater enlightenment or development. There is nothing new to be learned from nostalgic experiences, because by definition what is there has already been experienced. There is a sense in which every craftsman must revisit trodden ground in order to hone and practice a skill, but this ought to be done at the time of the training and not years later when the thing ought to have been learned. It is a poor training regime to return to something half learned, and there can only be very limited utility in relearning something already covered. But in general, paradigmatic nostalgic experiences do not seek even to do this: they seek to wrap one in the blanket of some fond memory, the pleasure of the experience taking precedent to all else. As already alluded to, this is a somewhat insipid behaviour of someone who wishes to cling to experiences of a younger self when safety and goodness were guaranteed by external forces, in place of facing the challenges and growth of the mature/adult journey.
Nevertheless, there are some advantages to nostalgia. Life can be wearying journey, and to remind oneself of simple times, and where ones roots lie, can heal the soul in a way that only the dwelling place of our childhood mothers can. Childhood friends can also cheer the spirits, as familiar faces cause us to revert back to a mindset of a sillier time. But one must be careful not to pursue these joys too virulently, by clutching to artefacts, replaying games and gathering other such things relating to those times, because beyond small doses for refreshment such nostalgic pursuits become wasteful of ones time; and in the end a sickness.
Hi Wizards
I wrote down some reflections on nostalgia this morning. Thought I would share some of my wisdom; gather round the fire
Nostalgia
Is nostalgia a good thing? It draws us into reliving same experiences as what we once had. Why? So that we may pick and choose the best times within our memory, in order to improve our current state of happiness. While there is an obvious sort of logic to this strategy, which lies in the underlying premise that one should do what has previously been successful, there are some drawbacks that become plain with a little thought.
First, it may be impossible to relive those experiences. This is because the world and the self have materially changed since the occurrences of the experiences sought after. After all, the best events occur spontaneously and so enjoyment is had, such that one hardly notices the time or what it really was that made those experiences so wonderful (the loss of time also causes further yearning because we wish to prolong what was shortened). Thus there is little science to how they were created in the first place, and if you had paid enough attention to tell them you weren’t really enjoying yourself to begin with.
Second, the memory or imagination distorts and perfects things. The forgetfulness resulting from a loss of time induced by happiness only adds to the ability of the imagination to work to this effect as hands upon clay: the images themselves are ill-formed and yet connected to so much good feeling, so that the imagination cannot help to draw in the blanks as perfectly as it is able. The ability to scrub out details that are unliked is also much abused, to much the same end.
But thirdly there is the fact that reliving what is past is an immature way of clinging to known knowns and thereby prevent oneself from the journey of progression to greater enlightenment or development. There is nothing new to be learned from nostalgic experiences, because by definition what is there has already been experienced. There is a sense in which every craftsman must revisit trodden ground in order to hone and practice a skill, but this ought to be done at the time of the training and not years later when the thing ought to have been learned. It is a poor training regime to return to something half learned, and there can only be very limited utility in relearning something already covered. But in general, paradigmatic nostalgic experiences do not seek even to do this: they seek to wrap one in the blanket of some fond memory, the pleasure of the experience taking precedent to all else. As already alluded to, this is a somewhat insipid behaviour of someone who wishes to cling to experiences of a younger self when safety and goodness were guaranteed by external forces, in place of facing the challenges and growth of the mature/adult journey.
Nevertheless, there are some advantages to nostalgia. Life can be wearying journey, and to remind oneself of simple times, and where ones roots lie, can heal the soul in a way that only the dwelling place of our childhood mothers can. Childhood friends can also cheer the spirits, as familiar faces cause us to revert back to a mindset of a sillier time. But one must be careful not to pursue these joys too virulently, by clutching to artefacts, replaying games and gathering other such things relating to those times, because beyond small doses for refreshment such nostalgic pursuits become wasteful of ones time; and in the end a sickness.