/wiz/ - Wizardry

Most East Europeans born into those circumstances turn to organized crime for the reasons you listed.

It's also a very lucrative idea mentally when you realize there are no downsides - even prison or death is better than current existence.

im so sick of all the self-improvement normalfags

>>222596
You don't know these people, they are usually psychopaths or normies. Believe me, prison in Eastern Europe is the scariest place after a madhouse, where would you like to go?
>>222597
Yes, I understand the same thing about any development, the path to becoming better, and the damage is crap. I think that God is he is very evil and just decided to create the world to mock everyone and in the end we are all in shit. It's just that the normies also suffer, but in their own way, but I still respect them as God.

>>222598
but I still hate them, the normies and God*
Sorry I use google translate because my English is just terrible

>>222595
Thirdie Wiz/apprentice-NEET/Hikikomori here, I relate to every word in your post, my country has a demographic issue too, the only thing that brings me comfort or peace of mind is the thought of roping, even though I don't even have the money to get a good rope at the moment.

>>222597
Crab mentality, let people self improove if they want, nobody is putting you under a gun and saying to self improve, crab

I'm from third world eastern europe too, really I'm doing self improvement mainly to find a job as I've been Neet for long time and as I saw my granny having stroke and then surviving in summer with 30 euros for a whole month, having starvation level of diet.
Kinda pushes me to do it, I also saw how my my brother almost died too which gave me extra motivation.

I think self improvement and other stuff will never help us to form relationship, because we have underlaying traumas that might never get healed. My overall situation is shit, I can't even get a simple cleaner job.

Really also why change anything is mainly my fear ending up on the street and sleeping somewhere under the bridge as hobo.

>>222612
my best hope would be selling veggies in the streets, in so far as employment where I live.

>>222597
As intended. Have a nice tantrum

we are doomed unless we end it.

>>222595
I'm from central Europe so I can't speak of the concrete issues of your country, however here it is mostly the same. I think the solution isn't so complex. Work only as much as you need to in order to survive or achieve a reasonable comfort level. NEET if it's available and enough for your standards of living. Do no more. What you are describing is essentially the Tang Ping movement from China, where people resign due to having no future prospects.
Sure maybe the public discourse is about preaching social unity and allegiance to the state (though not too much, lest you be called a nationalist), break your back and consoom like a good little cattle but in reality, nobody can force you to do any of that. In case a war breaks out and they try to conscript me, I will just bitch out and leave. Social problems largely do not affect me as I live in the countryside and it's much nicer here than in the urbanized areas. Living out here is much cheaper as well. Obviously your skills will determine what kind of work you are able to acquire. Only buy what you need, don't bother saving up for the future because the government can always just take away your savings or nullify them through manipulating interest rates and inflation. There is no light at the end of the tunnel. But that also means you are freed from endlessly chasing a carrot you will never reach.

>>222721
>central Europe
it's called: eastern europe

>>222721
>Only buy what you need, don't bother saving up for the future because the government can always just take away your savings or nullify them through manipulating interest rates and inflation.
Man I had to realize this too.
I had dreams of saving up my wages as mom still lets me leech at home (29) and maybe buy a small house in a village somewhere.
As my savings grow month by month, the value of my money decreases and the house prices increase.
Normies get a free house from the government if they sign a contract that they will breed someday in the future or something I'm not sure.
At this rate I could maybe buy a house in shambles in 5-6 years lmao…
Might just buy a decent used car just to have some store of value.

I calculated it and from my wages earner or "value generated" 75% is taken by the government in one way or another anyways so they can give it to the breeding programs.
27% vat, shit ton for non-existent healthcare, another chunk for the retired fucks. Taxes taxes taxes… there has been about 10% inflation MONTHLY it feels like.
It's insane my own grandfather has been retired since he was 30something and makes barely less from his pension than I do by wageslaving.
He was a bus driver before… insane world.

Saving feels retarded, not saving feels scary…
I'm mad that in third world countries with aging population it really feels like I'm being squeezed to death to support people who haven't worked in 50+ years.

>>223946
Have you thought about moving out of your country when things get unbearable? Europe is becoming a shithole for the free man. You either take a loan to buy a place and become a slave to the bank, or rent somewhere and be a slave to the landlord. I'm still leeching like you, but it won't last forever.

I'm thinking either Southeast Asia for the low cost of living, or Scandinavia for the low corruption. Far up north where it's cold and dark for half of the year, should be unsuitable for r-strategy criminal degenerates.

>>223995
>>223946
Get the fuck out of here, normis

>>223995
I had similar thoughts, have a bit of a "anywhere but here" mentality. Even though my country is not as bad as some.
Being the #1 enemy of the EU (inside the EU at least) is not a fun place to be and I really feel that I need to use the opportunity to move while still in it.
I thought about a Scandinavian country or something other high trust like Japan, but honestly not sure how well that would work.
I'm not exactly highly skilled or qualified. I'm working on it, but it's a long term project, perhaps too long.
I did consider some poorer Asian countries, but I couldn't survive the heat and humidity.
I also fear becoming a target there if they mistake me for an American. Already struggle here with the random minor demons (gypsy).

If qualifications didn't matter I'd consider Russia or Japan primarily.
Both because of the lack of workforce, slowly easing access and should provide some decent opportunities.
Russia because of the death of their men, Japan because they just don't breed which is perfectly fine.

With Russia my primary concern is that it is basically jumping from the frying pan into the fire. At least it's a large enough country that I wouldn't be at the mercy of macro forces as much as I am now. (Maybe the BRICS payment system will allow loli artists to use it unlike mastercard/visa instead of forcing blacks into all media as an extreme example.)
Opportunities seem more plentiful, but that is an outsiders view.

Japan, again, high trust. I'm rather worried about having to watch my back more and more as I grow older. Especially with demographic changes. At least in Japan I'll likely be dead before I'll have to really deal with it.

>I'm still leeching like you, but it won't last forever.
This is probably the biggest issue here. I'm too comfy, saving 90% of my paycheck basically, even if it's not a lot.
If I didn't have this opportunity, I'd update my German skills and try to make some €€€ in the neighboring Austria or Germany.

>>223998
So you'll rope once mom dies?

>>222721
>I'm from central Europe
It's funny thinking you might be from the same country as OP, and if true, the only difference is that he didn't adapt to the semantic shift as readily as everybody.

>it's much nicer here than in the urbanized areas
Rural areas differ from country to country, but what counts as rural in Orthodox Eastern Europe is mostly tightly packed communities with plots of land away from inhabited areas. Basically a small town with fewer amenities but not so few people (village population is in the order of thousands), but with a more traditional mindset and higher percentage of population engaged in agriculture. Village people mostly live off remittances from relatives working in Western Europe. Life may be cheap, but the community will go out of its way to make that life a living hell. They don't give a fuck about noise pollution and having no support network is like having a target painted on your back. Considering how few young people are left there, rumors, mostly made up, will deepen ostracism with all its downsides. Old ladies will also bad mouth you.

If you think of issuing noise complaints or you are bothered by your alcoholic neighbour encroaching on your yard by moving the fence posts a metre or so, don't go to the police. Those three officers go to the same two dodgy bars and are good friends with the small time crooks, so your report will make rounds in no time, triggering even worse reprisals.

t. grew up in a large village as a wee kid, even shat in an outhouse and kept all kinds of fowl, no weirdo survives in such community without being a savvy deceiver

>>223946
>As my savings grow month by month, the value of my money decreases and the house prices increase.
Normies get a free house from the government if they sign a contract that they will breed someday in the future or something I'm not sure.


lel wut?

>>224000
Villages are miserable places where everyone and their dog stick their noses up your anus. Everyone stalks everyone else.

It's a shame that even wizards are not safe from the normalfag cliche of peaceful village life. This doesn't exist. Give humans everything and they'll still find a way to make that place hell.

>>225907
Village life can only be peaceful in places like Japan that only have courteous high functioning autists inhabiting them.

It's gossipy hell everywhere else.

>>225908
>Village life can only be peaceful in places like Japan
Lol, you are a gullible weeb. See Junko Furuta. Human beast is same everywhere.

>>225912
> Junko Furuta
Oh wow, that single isolated event that gets brought up literally any time someone relays the fact that Japan is statistically a much safer place to live than some nigger-infested multiracial shithole.

>>225913
IIRC, this is a "classical rageface" emote :)

>>225913
You are such a directioned brained retard. No one has said anything about niggers. I have just said that evil exists everywhere. Humans are fundamentally evil. This doesn't exclude your wholesome chungus Hapanese.

>>225915
>Humans are fundamentally evil
No, not really.

>>225915
Someone someone made that graphic and it wasn't >>225913 .

>>222595
Just wanted to say that Earthworm Jim 2 was great. Well Done.