/wiz/ - Wizardry

>>218580
Yes. Good looks don't matter if your personality is shit, if you're a retarded aspie.

>>218581
I believe that the appearance is just the shell, but the real person is inside. Although appearance helps disguise the real person, making them better treated by others, something that happens to the extreme in succubi where their value is only based on that.

>>218582
>I believe that the appearance is just the shell, but the real person is inside.
That shell often quite accurately reflects what's inside.
>appearance helps disguise the real person
Can't disagree more.
If someone puts in a lot of care to look good (like with make-up, since you brought succubi up), it shows they value outer appearances. I don't see how it would "disguise" the real person - it's just another facet of who they are.

Maybe there's some misunderstanding going on here. Can you give me an example of exactly what do you mean? I think that (assuming we're talking about healthy people) your body reflects who you are. It doesn't disguise anything.

I'll agree that appealing body doesn't necessarily correlate with an appealing personality - is that what you meant?

>>218580
no

>>218583
>I'll agree that appealing body doesn't necessarily correlate with an appealing personality - is that what you meant?
Yeah. I am referring to the attractive and purely aesthetic part, and not to things that have to do with health and will such as physical strength.

>>218585
Why not?

>>218590
because

>>218591
The ugly, drug addicts, criminals, autistic people, the poor, the miserable and the sick can get a succubus. One of very low quality, and will perpetrate the cycle of misery with a baby. But they can have a partner.

The question here is, are you willing to put up with a person like that just to have sex and some company

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>>218586
The 2d is designed to be attractive to a Japanese audience. And although there may be pretty succubi like them, they are a minority.

>>218592
If I answer your question I'll be banned even if OP asked a hypothetic question

>>218597
>>218597
I'm more isolated than shit, so I tried to socialize a little more. Coincidentally, she was a succubus, and she really couldn't stand half an hour of telling her shitty life. I don't understand how the normie drags herself in such a way just to get sex. Imagine these weeks, months, even years like this.
There I realized that he was a true wiz, since no matter how isolated he is, it is not worth socializing, or making all kinds of efforts just for company, and much less sex.

>>218596
It's like a sale, when a seller offers you something it will only show the best qualities of the product, once you buy it all the flaws appear.
Beautiful packaging really makes a difference, so if, for example, you sell olives in a glass jar with a nice label, they will sell much more than bulk olives even if they are of the same quality.

>>218600
It is not. If we have two guys who committed some horrible crime, one of them mixed race, short and with a horrible car, along with a tall white guy with great looks. The attractive guy will receive a better sentence and better treatment from the judge and the court, which physically does not seem bad.

The same thing happens with olives. A person will consider that an olive in a nice jar is better than an olive without a container. It's about appearance, not about people, the person is inside.

>>218592
>they can have a partner.
Wrong.
Nowadays, when there are plenty of free to use dating apps, succubi have literally no reason to deal with "low quality" men. It's trivial for them to get some from a muscular chad.

I suppose it's possible that you've met a genuinely retarded guy with a face as ugly as night that still got laid, but that's an outlier, an exception, not a rule as you're trying to portray it.

>putting drug addicts and criminals on the same level as ugly and autistic people
Wrong again.
"Dangerous" people are seen as fun and exciting to succubi, they're not low quality at all in terms of sex appeal. They're low on "husband material" scale just like retards, that's true, but unlike them they're high on fucktoy scale.

>>218627
Just because a succubus can have sex with whoever she wants, on the day and time they want, does not mean that someone cares about them, loves them, or wants to form a relationship.

>"Dangerous" people are seen as fun and exciting to succubi, they're not low quality at all in terms of sex appeal.
Only a promiscuous succubus is going to put her physical, mental and material security just to have sex.

>>218630
succubi love men with status. they want to be around the best people in the world so she can feel worth and will never associate with low life men. she thinks she is important while in fact she's just a hole

>>218631
Friend, what you say is pure common sense. Everyone wants the best of the best, but one thing is what you want, and another thing is what you can get. Your thinking sounds a lot like the dialectic of sodomite forums like 4chan, where they think that succubi can have whatever they want, when the reality is that in most cases you get what you are. An ugly, fat and poor succubus will only get a guy who fits her capabilities.

>>218632
ok, and where does it lead knowing this now?

>>218633
succubi are inferior beings in every way to men. Imagine that your only value as a person in society is your body, and your face, and not the person behind them.
There are many men who put appearance and aesthetic values ​​on a pedestal, thinking that this will change their shitty life.

>>218630
Risk taking good looking tall men are the epitome of evolutionary success.

Society tries to force this trope that only personality, money etc. matters, but in the end guys like Jeremy Meeks end up marrying the billionaire heiress (and he even got a Gucci modeling deal straight out of prison).

We are base animals with a very thin veneer of civilization. Very, very few succubi care about a cultured, educated nlce man in a sexual way if he is a short nerd looking guy.

There isn't a line of groupies in their 20s waiting to hook up with Bill Gates despite his billions.
succubi see ugly rich guys and ugly nerds as only a defrauding target; A walking ATM.

>>218637
Appearance undoubtedly gives more advantages in life, as does skin color, eye color, height, muscles, the country and family where one is born. But no matter how much you have everything in your favor, if the individual decides to be a failure, he will be one regardless of the cards that life dealt him.
Not all of us have a full house, a poker or a flush straight, but sometimes a single high card is enough to win a game, since there is no better hand than our determination and courage.

>>218637
It's funny you mentioned "risk taking" when Meeks himself didn't take risks. He simply got lucky with his viral mugshot. He could've easily died on the streets because of his gang activity. A male model/actor named Jon Hexum died because of an accidental self-inflected gunshot to the head with a prop.

>>218643
Not only is he a murderous scumbag, but he's also a miserable drug addict. Her value as a person is zero, the only relevant thing she has is being a pretty face, getting everything she has in life for that, not very different from what happens with some succubi.

I have nothing against succubi, but those guys who act like them saying "I can never be that chad with life figured out ;_;" "w-why did God make me ugly?" "If I wasn't ugly my life would be better :(" I'm not even complaining that they are pathetic compared to others, but at least that they are relevant things, like someone who can speak several languages, someone with a PhD or similar shit, and not just a guy with a pretty face.

A w0mans attention doesnt bring happiness. We are all called for greater purpose, to be part of God's higher plan for us which is love and everlasting life. Transient things of this world stray us further from that path so we need to stay in God's path

>>218643
I've never heard of Hexum. I had to google.

That is objectively the best looking human of either gender I've seen in 45 years.

I'm 6'6 white not bad looking and a wizard

>>218665
>A w0mans attention doesnt bring happiness.
I feel like this is true to an extent because good looking/famous/rich guys still get divorced, get depressed, become drug addicts,kill themselves,etc.

>>218666
He was very good looking but not so lucky, given how his life ended.

>>218667
Are you autistic or have any mental disabilities?

>>218669
I dont think i even have anything of the sort i'm more like stuck in a stupid schizo loop that could have been prevented with a bit of good luck and if people were just nicer and more accepting of others in general. But maybe i dont even evaluate correctly how fucked up and repulsive i am after a life of loneliness. But those last few years i subtly rejected 2 guys that wanted to befriend me myself, so i'm a shitty hypocrite

>>218670
I sound like such a normie, you just can't beat those instincts i guess, even when i reality, the moment i'm in peoples vicinity, i don't feel any sympathy towards them so even less a desire to belong. And everytime i'm close to create a friendly relationship i get this "cringy" feeling like i'm super fake and gay. I even got this with a succubi the second she gave me a minimal amount of attention, which was surprising to me considering that i thought i was a mental pervert completely enslaved to the power dynamic. I don't want to be so lonely but deep down i loathe socializing, it's like having my ass between two chairs

>>218672
Not that simple, i probably made my case sound more mundane than it is but that schizo loop is no joke. It's lot of pain and anger too like fantasizing while biting my lips about gouging self satisfied, snickering normie's eyes, and exposition is in great part what made me this way so i'm kinda stuck on all fronts

>>218580
yes, because some things are more important than the silly characteristics you posted

>>218681
No problemas for a 6'6" guy really

>>218665
I like your message, and I think it is right, but there is the religious part that is also true.

>>218667
Stupid Yankee, you can't use feet to measure something in the 21st century, that's what meters exist for. Even so, I did the conversion and it seems that you are 2 meters tall, the cal is quite high, I hope you eat enough, and are not skinny.

>>218682
You speak and sound like a succubus, just because a person is tall doesn't mean they have problems.

>>218684

You don't have much of a grasp of the english language do you?

A tall guy has much more potential once they begin getting themselves together.

>>218689
You can be a basketball player, a volleyball player or a stock clerk in a supermarket.

>>218690
Are you *tall?

>>218691
I'm over 175 tall since my brother is 170 tall and I'm a head taller than him. I don't really know how tall I am.

>>218580
I suppose with good looks and more importantly positive reinforcement from the start, there would be enough circumstances where yes, I wouldn't be able to access the arcane arts anymore.
But I'm pretty sure I would still end up retreating from society, succubi and normalfags are that insufferable to be around.
Still a hermit but without mana, how miserable. Thank god we've avoided that!

>>218693
This. I doubt I would be a wizard, and likely numerous succubi would have hit on me by the age of 20.

But it doesn't matter because I was born very short, myopic, and facially ugly while also balding in my late teens.
There is literally no way for someone like me to even theoretically have sex if it doesn't involve me paying a huge sum of money for it.

Do I keep my fucked up brain? Then yes. I reckon it would have been worse because if there's anything guys love more than ganging up on pathetic nerds it's going up against Chad.

>>218580
Yes. I've been called attractive, I get positive attention from succubi every now and again, I'm average height, I'm white, and I don't know what you mean by 'a good penis' but there's nothing wrong with mine. All that being said, I am still a 32 year old virgin because I don't share the same shallow values as normalfags. I don't think the way they think, I don't enjoy what they enjoy, I don't enjoy the company of others in general, and I've always avoided getting entangled in the trivial matters that normalfags seem to obsess over. Being 'ugly' seems to be the most common path to wizardry, but it isn't the only possible path. An 'ugly' man will be outcast and shown the true nature of most humans, but many men learn the true nature of humans on their own, thus outcast themselves, both types of men (provided they remain virgins, obviously) become wizards.

>>218702
Sometimes they seem to be just a nuisance, if you leave sex aside, many seem to be uninteresting. The truth is it's pretty ridiculous that things like sex or relationships are so glorified. I understand that with how promiscuous succubi are these days it's strange that there are people who have never had sex, but it's not bad.

>>218758
Purely by biology, it is more likely that there are virgin succubi than virgin men, since succubi have a much lower libido than men. Even for many, masturbation is rare.
Society is too sexualized, it is bordering on the unhealthy.

>>218759
Not only are there 4% more boys born than succubi, boys are also 5x more likely to be autistic or low IQ.

Add to that the fact the modern dating market heavily favors good looking men at the expense of short and ugly men, and you have a recipe for close to zero female virgins but tons of male ones.

Also, succubi aren't low libido. They just don't like to have sex with PUA's and ugly guys. They are very direct and straightforward with hot guys

Uh oh, here come the PNG graphs showing that succubi are actually REALLY HORNY and they want to FUCK ALL THE CHADS

>>218764
It is not like that, succubi are not as promiscuous as we are led to believe.

>Add to that the fact the modern dating market heavily favors good looking men at the expense of short and ugly men
Are you speaking from experience? Come on, that rubbish only applies to dating apps where for every 9 men there is one succubus.

>>218759
Promiscuity and low-libido are not mutually exclusive. Even if some succubus only wants to have sex once a month, that's potentially 12 new dudes a year.

>>218769
A person who is used by another as a mere sexual object does not value their body or their person, and is typical of people who hate themselves. It doesn't matter if it happens once a year, it is degrading, and the orgasm disappears quickly.
It's one thing to fuck, another to be fucked.

>>218580
Of course not. Why would I?
No one chooses to be a wizard, we're FORCED into this life one way or the other.
There's absolutely nothing to gain by being a wizard. Anyone who claims to be a "volcel" wiz is a coping faggot.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>218773
Yeah, lmao, everyone is a failure just like you, no one else would actually choose to have freedom or not have any desire for relationships at all, right? It's all just like you, anon.

>>218773
>There's absolutely nothing to gain by being a wizard.
actually you gain a lot.

>dont have to deal with any type of normalfag problems
>dont have to put effort into pleasing a hole
>zero chance of becoming a cuckold
>all your income stays in your pocket and doesnt go to a literal hole which means you can retire much earlier
>society and roasties cant play tricks on you to force bullshit on you
>no mindgames, no drama, zero Bullshit added to your life
>can do whatever the fuck you want whenever you want
>do not have to meet a roasties expectation

like how is that bad?

>>218580
yes I would still be a Wizard because I became very redpilled very early in life and I do not wish to participate on society and normalfag circles.

>>218773
What would we gain by becoming failed normies?

>>218782
What do we win by having sex?

>>218786
That's different from masturbation?

If I weren't fucked up by being put through childhood torture, I would probably never have masturbated, because I would have seen it as pointless.

If I made it to 21 without starting, and I had something to look forward to when I woke up, I would have followed my first sense that all of this was for "other people", and I was better off alone. It was only because I was tortured and sucked into self-destruction that I turned to the habit. Then it became an addiction and an effort to "wipe clean" the first terrible experiences, and that chasing the dragon deal never works out.

That said, now my body is broken, but I have no desire for females, nor any ability to perform if they did throw themselves at me. I just say now that there's nothing for it, and because I'm not the only man who gave up, it's more accepted. It's amazing how much of this shit falls away when we're not around such shitty people. The people who pushed the "sex cult" shit were always shitty. Normal men and succubi would even tell me that there's nothing good there, and the people who did the insinuation shit only wanted their eugenics orgy cult. When they were done making me suffer, they went about making most of humanity suffer for not going along with their rape games. I keep asking when someone will finally start choking these assholes, but that's not what humans are. They're too weak to ever rebel against this cult that poisoned them and destroyed the world, all for the sake of this. The perpetrators can't even say what any of it was for. It felt good and that's really what humans are.

What I can as a 40yo archwizard now is that you guys are really over-valuing the opinion of succubi. They really don't think about what they like. They're drilled to do whatever supports eugenics and the orgy, because they have to. succubi really do not like men and make this clear. Even when they like sex, they will say they never experience anything like attraction in the way men do. The idea that they are at all like us is one of the toxic lies and false equivocations made to shame us. They only say it to people who are judged losers.

Ugly truth is, most succubi turn off their judgement and are told what to like by Oprah or womens' magazines. If a succubus does think for herself, she likely shuns men and thinks men are all garbage, and even if she liked a man, it's not really "her choice". Mating is decided by Them now, the people who insinuate that they get to tell everyone what they are. For the men, there is no choice and there never was. If we actually think we have any agency regarding this, we are violently corrected. Only the ringleaders of the orgy have "choice", and they do this as part of a machine to terrorize the world into accept this fruity cult. The rest of us are beholden to that, with a large part of the male population getting nothing but increasingly miserable whore "sex" and pornography. I believe it is already happening that men are turning away from this. In the past, men who were "out of the game" had a stable economic life, and had their routine of "the vice" every week or few weeks. It is because of the full-scale depopulation torture assault, forced drugging, and great fear, that any of this became what it did, rather than any "natural appeal" of pornification and this violence.

There are still guys like us who don't fall into addiction in the same way. They might have the more traditional vice of doing the thing every week or month, then forget about succubi. Their lives aren't what they used to be. There are no more stable jobs or anything like that. Most of us go insane, and they killed off most of the people on disability which is where a lot of us were shunted. "We're screening you out" is a result of this orgy, and those are the people who promote the lies and PUA Satanic shit.

Around age 21, I discovered that other people find me attractive. Basically, from puberty I developed masculine features and lost 70 lbs or 32 kg, and I never socialized so I found this out quite late. Until that point I was like one of those creatures who dwell on the sea floor, feeding on small plankton and dwelling in the dark. But suddenly I was getting invitations to parties, and succubi would talk to me and offer me drinks. Naturally I turned down all of it.

Because normie socializing is all fake. If you went bald or you were in an accident & had your face scarred, suddenly you're not "cool" anymore. They don't actually like or care about you. Or each other. Normies throw each other under the bus nonstop. The only true friendships are among weirdos basically

>>218670
They wanted yo befriend you in their ways, not yours
>>218671
Relationships are given by similarity, "creating" them is just a deceit normies live, allowing psychos enter their lives and dominating them since it be mostly façade.

>two chairs
Upgrading the comfy one with pieces of the other, which must get first torn into pieces.

>>218855
When I was younger I was really interested in being with succubi, also having friends. Then I realized that wanting this made me sad, since I couldn't get it due to social isolation. So I believe that unhappiness comes from things we want, and cannot have, so if we stopped wanting these things, we would be happier. Then time passed, and I stopped being interested in this.
The thing is that I really have everything to be able to get a succubus, and many times it's not about getting it, it's about being able to get it.

>>218580
Pffft I was exactly that way. Still have my good flavours about succubi trying their stupid tactics around me getting triggered by my passivity.
Lvl 31 wiz by the way

Probably not a wizard, after all it is "normal" to want the wife and family ideal. However, I would absolutely not do the whole shallow hook-up culture, that has always disgusted me even as a child, I would be a one-succubus man. The challenge here would be finding a loyal one-man succubus that I am attracted to(in beauty, personality and beliefs), which in reality would increase my likelihood of staying a wizard even if I were handsome, social, etc. I'd rather stay a wizard than compromise my beliefs.

This is all academic anyway, the reality is I'm old and comfortable being a wizard.

70= YEARS OF OBSERVATION RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS = the conclusion that no piece of ass on GODS earth is worth the misery and bullshit they put you thru…
yeah its that simple…
Every one of my male friends is a basket case, each of them is a walking dead.
# 1 is 94 years old; the VA is taking him apart piece by piece; they just told him the chemo is no longer working…
He just put his unbelievable firearms collection up for auction because he can't enjoy it any more…
all his cars, motorcycles, aircraft , thousands of rare books, memorabilia from all over the world.
He is alone except for two cats. None of his ex woetomen are here to give a shit.
It's never worth it to be involved; let the coozehounds lose their minds following their dick.
#2 is DEAD, his wife killed him…
she'll never see an hour in jail because she is best buds with Americas criminal royalty…
everybody knows it; its not worth it…
i have stories going back to the late 50's of WTM's getting away with murder…
the few happy pussy hounds i know follow the old dictum of " why buy when you can rent"…

I'd have probably been taken advantage of. I didn't learn to push people away in time for a while due to autism-related isolation. So there's a decent chance of being unvirgined, but in my soul I don't think my being attractive would let me find the energy for others, nor bond with them. As it stands, I place no value on my virginity in either direction to begin with. I'm too isolated to even be bullied for it, there's no other reason to care.

>>219302
How are you still alive gran wiz?

>>219310
in cels.is*

If I still had trust issues and autism then yes.
I never had sex because I never get emotionally or relationally close to anyone. Not because I am ugly, short, not white, or don't have a 12 inch staff.

That said if you change enough things about a hypothetical version of me after a certain point it isn't really even similar to me at all. It's basically a hypothetical almost entirely different person.

>>219302
Sorry sir. But by merely watching succubi at early stages it is well known they are worthless, narcissistic and malignant.

I do not understand what made you so surprised. They literally think we all shouldnt exist but to collectively drain outselves away in any manner to make their pussies happy

>>219317
Not all are. Many are. Because they act as darwinistic gatekeepers of the species (and we are only animals), their demeanor towards males born with bad genetics is malignant and cold.

It's not something they can "control". Any more than neurotypical male kids can control picking up a toy car or sword over a doll - with zero input or suggestion from the parents at age 1.

We're wired a certain way just like other animals are in their own fashion.

>>219330
>we are only animals)
Yes, this is why many men use rape and subversion.

I wouldn't be a wizard obviously but I'd still be pretty much a shut in.

>>218581
You're just deluded. A succubus would pick a serial killer anyday over a wizard as long as he's good looking.

>>219333
FEMALE'S SEXUAL PREFERENCES DO NOT DETERMINE IF A MAN IS A WIZARD OR NOT
Wizard ≠ outwardly creepy, dumb, ugly, awkward guy. A wizard could be the most desirable man to succubi, or he could be someone like you. As long as hes a virgin past the age of 30 and remains that way, he is a wizard.

Crab idiot.

>>219336
>An attractive guy born in this modern digital era is destined to be social and outgoing and is so unlikely to be a wiz, he would be using tiktok, snap, insta, and other social media apps
I'm not going to tell you that I'm a super model, but I am attractive, or well that's how I see myself in the mirror. I use TikTok, but the only social media I use is mostly anonymous forums, and although I'm not shy, the lack of social contact makes it so that I can relate in a slightly strange way.

>>219336
Being autistic/non-nt is worse than being ugly

>>218580
probably not, but I'd eventually get sick of succubi and eventually hate them I think it's kind of a blessing anyway that I have shit genes because I have no virtue

Succubi were constantly sending me indicators of interest, was I already hating them for being that lousy as being able to date filth as long as they were masculine enough, I stepped then into hating them for always putting the weight of the relationship on men. Even worse, they got angry with me when they realized my game. They aren't worth a breath, pure wizard 100% 💪

>>219400
MGTOW was banned from Reddit cause they were sexually experienced men who started to reveal the bullshit they see on succubi and that got the woketards triggered, they couldn't even call them in.cels just keep that in mind.

>>218855
>Because normie socializing is all fake. If you went bald or you were in an accident & had your face scarred, suddenly you're not "cool" anymore. They don't actually like or care about you. Or each other. Normies throw each other under the bus nonstop. The only true friendships are among weirdos basically
That's correct, normalfag "empathy" is conditional and it can reach zero (or negative) territory for whatever bullshit cultural reason, then they proceed to dehumanize you and they can even torture and kill you, see any war in the history of mankind (where hundreds of millions of men were murdered because of normalfags chimping out).

>>218580
There is nothing special about sex. It's special to normalfags because normalfags are naive when it comes to social instincts, and they are wowed by female (and normalfag) validation. And sex is basically the cherry on top of social validation. succubi exist as carrots on stick to manipulate men into wageslaving. Anything that circumvents the idea of females as a cock sleeve tier reward is ridiculed, shamed, or made illegal, e.g.
>masturbation
>male sex toys
>asceticism/abstinence
>volcel, crab, etc.
>rape
>sexless marriage
>zoophilia
>necrophilia

>>218592
those kinds of men only get extremely trashy std ridden hoes

>>218580
How homosexual does someone have to be to post this with full seriousness?

>>220247
Between zero and one hundred percent.

Probably not, I have no real interest in dating,females are mostly awful and will take your money and other things.

I would still like to be some kind of alpha, life would be much easier in general, being poor or ugly is a curse, because all doors close and life is in super hard mode.