/wiz/ - Wizardry

>>217895
Still undesirable. Also reflecting inner traits of the individual

This discussion is so nonsensical. Nobody deserves happiness, nor people choose to be happy or sad. Under the materialistic thinking, it's just a consequence of your choices and your enviroment. Your classmate, however, is a moron. He must leave a pretty meaningless life for claiming that ugly people shouldn't have kids.

>>217898
*What I meant is that there's no such thing as "deserving to be happy".

>>217895
Most of the world's procreation happens in third world countries where succubi are illiterate and the general IQ hovers around mental retardation.

In the west fewer and fewer succubi are having children, and even fewer men.

>>217898
>>217899
>peaking retardation
leave those meds

>>214763
The normalfags here who are gaslighting ugly wizards need to read about the "Ugly laws" in the US. They literally would put you in jail for showing your ugly face in public. Always remember that normies would do this again if they could get away with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugly_law

>>218720
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing Anon, I've learned something cool today.

>>217895
>Ugliness is not a disability.
Why not?
I think it can be compared to a mild, high-functioning autism: people with that have fine IQ and able bodies, but they're still considered disabled because of how hard autism fucks with their social skills. If autists are disabled because of problems with socializing, then I don't see why extreme ugliness couldn't be considered a disability as well.
>and yet they reproduce en masse
Plenty of disabled people have children.

>>218728
>Why not?
A disability is something that prevents you from doing something necessary to survival. Being ugly doesn't afflict anyone's lifespan unless they're groomed and conditioned by retards in to believing that they ought to be sad if they are ugly.

people hate you if you're ugly
they will bully you, target you, make fun of you, say the meanest things
it's done at an early age
trauma that lasts for years
negative impact for most of your life
like pstd victims

it's over. Being ugly and autistic is a curse. I am blackpilled for life the rope awaits me.

>>218730
>>218730
> A disability is something that prevents you from doing something necessary to survival.
Where did you pull that definition from? Your ass?
And you've completely ignored my point about autism. Do you think high functioning autism is NOT a disability? It doesn't prevent you from anything necessary to survival.

Now that I look up online definitions of "disability" (like from wikipedia: "Disability is the experience of any condition that makes it more difficult for a person to do certain activities or have equitable access within a given society.") I'm even more convinced that ugliness could be considered one.

Your arguments are invalid and I urge you to rethink your statements.

Not reading all this thread but ugly people shouldn't be reproducing and I don't see the problem with "ugly laws", if anything it's a honorable concept. I'm not even saying that everyone should look like a "Chad" or something, at least they just shouldn't harm your eyes.
Liberals are the ones going on about how "everyone is beautiful" and that "we should accept everyone as they are".
Also wizards who are wizards simply for being ugly and not for psychological reasons are basically failed normalfags.
>t. not ugly, but autistic

>>218766
Austism is a cope. There are plenty of people on the spectrum that are married, have good jobs and live a normalfag life. Unless you're a drooling sperg then "being autistic" is not an excuse. You are more of a failed normalfag than an ugly wizard.

>>218772
>There are plenty of people on the spectrum that are married, have good jobs and live a normalfag life
"Plenty" of people get struck by lightning, so what? Using an absolute quantifier is dishonest, what matters is the PERCENTAGE.

>>218766
>waifufag is a gynocentrist
You can't get laid because you put pussy on a pedestal so much.

>>218787
What the fuck are you even going on about? Where did I say in my post that I worship succubi or sex… or rather, what unrelated statement "triggered" you to think that?
Also posting one random 2D succubus does not make me a "waifufag" unless you came from reddit to imageboards yesterday. If you want to see a real waifufag look at >>>/dep/294024

>>218772
Even if you're high functioning, it's harder…

>>218788
Moron. Waifuists, betas, and male feminists are all gynocentrists. Their reason for staying virgins is so they don't devalue stinkubi who they view as goddesses.

Ignore this (>>218799) reatrd. He is 100% an ESL who despite not knowing any significant English or its naunces, will continue to insist HIS definitions of words mean what HE defines them to be.

Ugliness is like stupidity, it's a fault people are blind to unless it's at the extremities where it's undeniable. It's probably some inherent cognitive blindness we have to protect our ego.

Stupid people themselves talk shit about stupid people and think they're smart, they mostly talk shit about the retards drooling from their mouths. Of course their own failings are excused with an ADHD diagnosis or the fact they're a "different kind of learner". They'll make jokes about how much better it'd be blowing up the tard bus while walking to school, as society doesn't need them, never mind the biggest drain on society comes from the 85IQ criminal caste we consider functional. Actual retards aren't really much of a social drain in any society, and they don't have kids, they live very astute wizzie tier lives and don't commit many crimes.

Ugliness is the same. 2/10 uggos will talk mad shit about other people being ugly, being blind to the fact they're fat and off-putting themselves. Funnily enough beautiful people don't feel this need, as they've never really considered themselves at risk of being in the same category. People talk shit about ugly people and how they shouldn't be able to breed, relishing punching down, as they secretly feel that's how more beautiful people feel about them.

The extremities of ugliness are actually like the extremities of stupidity, it's harmless at the extreme. Extreme Uggos aren't likely to breed anyway and have congenital problems that often inhibit it, the same way most down syndrome types are sterile. However, it's the 2/10 uggos that are not extremely ugly but just average ugly, who do breed, who do have lots of ugly children and are making the world uglier.

The far bottom end of the bell curve is pretty based despite the shit people talk about it, Schopenhauer said genius and retards get along for the same reason Grandparents and Children get along. It's the people in the middle, specially the bottom end of the middle, that are shitty.

>>218766
Case of an autist lacking compassion #1833744957

>>219456
Irrelevant. You also aren't helping your rightfully uncompassionate image

>>219457
>Irrelevant.
No it's not. You being either a third world shitskin or someone who appreciates them is always relevant to the discussion, because it directly corresponds to your capacity to uptake and understand new information that challenges your views. It's the difference between arguing with a human and arguing with a monkey.
>You also aren't helping your rightfully uncompassionate image
To be compassionate isn't determined by an unweilding dedication to feel bad for any and all people. He may have compassion for his own hundred million people (Whites), while having no compassion towards the billions of people (Niggers) who are religiously making life harder for these people of his. This doesn't make him uncompassionate. If anything, his adverseness to ugly shitworld thirdskins breeding en masse really is compassionate because the end result would result in less suffering for those types -and the world - after a single generation.

>>219458
Race is completely irrelevant here. I was making a point about how that post proved that autistic people are lacking in compassion (support of ugly laws), and then you jump to another topic you're obsessed with for some reason. There's a whole board for people like you on 4chan

Why can't you just accept that you're a compassionless person? Does admitting that really hurt that much? Either change it or accept it, stop living a lie

>>219459
>lacking in compassion (support of ugly laws),
But supporting laws that would reduce the genetic reach of ugly people doesn't make someone uncompassionate for the reasons I explained.

>>219460
I guess you really can't stop living a lie

>>219455
Autism is unrelated to capacity for empathy.

>>219463
I'm white. You should really stop being race-obsessed or alternatively live out your compassionless autism on /pol/.

Do you remember you reaction to ugly people when you were a kid?

>>217891
>A little flaw, another there… in the end it just brings truly unfortunate offspring who will bear the burden of each flaw just because their ancestors and parents were too mentally deranged to live alone without being in despair under the grasp of desires.

its what happened to me. two families, fairly un attractive. And, my mental case 4/10 dad, who knew shouldnt be makin kids, hooks up w/ my 3/10 mom, should of become a nun,

finally ends w/ me, 2/10 train wreck, w/ zero positive genetics, face, intellect, athletic ability.

and then i see people postin, remind me of My Dad, and his crazy BS, dreamin about makin a kid like me,

>>218731

do what i do, Live out of spite to people made you, and people curse at you.

Finally, and thankfully, world reproduction is startin to slow.

My parents, if were young people today. My dad would be the dude boastin on this or similar forum: I havent left basement in 3+ Years!!! My mom would be runnin around streets screamin about radical feminist stuff.

Today, people like my parents would never even find each other, let alone interact in Any Way in person.

i see it as a win. im a 2/10 and dont wish the curse my life was/is on anyone. And, any actually fellow 2/10 will feel same, and wont be dreamin, if only i could do, wat, make 1/10 babies!! But celebrate less and less people look like us and live our lives. If you re a 2/10 you already know there was some un natural chaos that led to your creation

>>219473
(((compassion)))

>>219492
(((go back to pol)))

It's not so much as they "think" but their actions which reveal how they operate on a fundamental level.
They hate virgin men. They assume the worst of silent types if they don't look good. The short guys get bullied. The ugly are always being taken advantage by females.

>>214763
Your classmate was correct, the lives of the genetically unfortunate are nothing but misery and suffering, ugly people cannot be happy because of said genetics, it's morally wrong to allow them to breed. How can you be a blackpilled wizard and get to your twilight age and not understand this? What gives you the right to pass on your subhuman hereditary burden and to force another poor soul to suffer for a lifetime of torment as you yourself did? If your parents had been sterillised you, the elephant man never would have had to suffer for a temporary eternity. The children wouldn't be "chad" or "stacy" because you don't have chad or stacy genetics, you have subhuman genetics, genetics aren't random, they're not like a character generator. Don't breed, seriously. Not that you have the choice to anyway but just don't. If you are dysgenic and you breed you deserve to be executed.

>>217773
>You should ask them if disabled and poor people should also be sterilized and banned from having children
They should be sterillised and banned from having children. That is actually exactly what the world needs, you retard. You would not be suffering in your predicament today if that had happened.

If you talk with normal human beings they will tell you that ugly people deserve happiness, just get out of the internet for a while

Adoption is a thing.

Everyone should be allowed to have the joy of building a family, I agree with that now 100%, ugly people shouldn't be forced to live inmisery and isolation, but an ugly person/couple can just adopt an orphan, this way, he doesn't pass down his ugly genes AND improves the life of some unfortunate kid.

>>219640
Words, just words. Words they never put in to practice. Oh normalfags love to say their words that sound nice to them, patting eachother on the back how they're totally nice people and not superficial jerks that will stay you in the back or sweep you under the rug all while saying nice words making them the good guy and you the devil for having an outburst and saying the evil no no words

normies are scum as any person on board knows.

anyways, if you want to test normies on their BS, as a super ugly person:

hey you want to hang out, in public, w/ your friends next weekend?

>>219641
I never hated kids. Every wizard I talked with had hoped for a family all their lives once they grow up. I adored my younger cousins and hoped I would have kids of my own some day to raise and take care of.

The problem is most wizards (not all but most) have lots of physical and mental features that severely turn off succubi.
Early balding, shortness, fatness combined with weirdness and social autism isn't exactly a family magnet making succubi beg to carry a baby for you for 9 months.

There is practically no option for a wizard except a decades long adoption process, and that too requires not only a high stable income but also a partner. They don't grant adoptions to single males in any country.

>>219687
too bad, I wish I had a daughterfu…

>>214763
It is so awkward when people come here without knowing that most normals are simply evil and deserve sabotage…

This thread of yours sounds like an indagation, a mere starting insight when it should be a well established and developed knowledge here on wizchan.

>>214763
The kid was right, but you assumed too soon that solitude means pain. Your mental flaw makes you see him as an enemy, someone who merely desires that future humans have better features without still accumulating the undesired ones.

But your spooky social needs are the issue here. Another inheritable misery to avoid.

>>219697
Never follow the Golden Rule of Jesus of Nazareth with people who naturally hate you. The best form of anti-natalism would be the euthanasia of Judaism.

>>214763
ugly people aren't pleasant to look at, in some instances they're even painful to look at. it's not their fault for being born this way neither is it people's fault for being uncomfortable being in their presence.
not everyone has the patience to accommodate to a stranger's ugly face, their repulsion is only a natural response, so don't take it personally (unless they bully you for it, in which case they're real assholes).
it's beyond brutal but its the way things are.

on a more optimistic note, genetic engineering could solve this problem in a near (?) future. let's hope it happens in our lifetime

>>219711
>on a more optimistic note, genetic engineering could solve this problem in a near (?) future. let's hope it happens in our lifetime
Why do you care ? You plan to have babies ?

>>219711
>engineering
then bad gnes wouldd be still be passsed on, making dependant on engineering more and more as shit gets folded down the carpet

>>219729
>>219730
genetic engineering as cosmetic surgeries but at a genetic level.
maybe it's not the right word but imagine being able to customize your body like in a video game, that's what i mean. things you see in sci-fi media like ghost in the shell.

i think the word i'm searching for is transhumanism

>>217895
>Ugliness is not a disability.
I have been thinking about this for a few minutes. To be "disabled" is to be unable to perform a basic lifestyle function. I am physically disabled. However, some people are officially considered "socially disabled" if they are sufficiently bad at reading facial expressions. Why is this a disability when ugliness is not? The official answer is that jobs exist which they cannot fill, but that is a bit strange when you consider that men over a certain height cannot fly fighter craft or work in a submarine, and there are many, many jobs that ugly people in general and ugly succubi in particular cannot accomplish. Pretty much every example of an "ugly" successful salesman that I've seen for example has actually just been old, or fat, or balding, with no attention paid to the things the brain really responds to on a deep level like symmetry, skin health, facial structure etc.

I think the idea of social disability may really be that a socially disabled man's response to social situations is sufficiently unpredictable that accident or intentional violence is the most likely result of coercing them into a position that requires rather than simply requests appropriate social responses. A socially disabled lawyer or judge or police officer would not just be inept, he would present a danger to society by misjudgment.