/wiz/ - Wizardry

>>217074
>the way of Germanics
well, the nazis did not educate people properly into the real need for eugenism, being fond of making things forced from an authoritarian point of wiew, so the people just had no time nor calling to assimilate the deep tenets by theirselves… so when the lies got spread they just thought eugenics was a matter of racism, instead of saving it as deeper cultural tenet.

Metapedia does little thing if no one shares what it has to communicate, and even worse the damn woke mobs around the world are ready enough to harass whoever dares to so it has to be done very carefully, even if it is for the sake of inviting the masses to plan it better when they decide to bring the next generations of wizards into this planet.

So we might have helped our fellow wizzies even before birth, and the less people suffering here because of shitty genome, the better. Less weaponry given to autist harassers against us all.

>>216404
I think this is a much better way to put things, it's better that ugly people die, but we the normies, we will not treat you with basic human decency, however we encourage suicide through our behaviour with you.

Man fuck the normies.

>>214787
But shouldn't people just treat ugly people like people? I am not staying ugly people are owed or entitled to relationships. But in other aspects like work, school, and life in general.

>>214763
This ideology is the result of fascism. It is the speech and the tongue of the wretched Nazi menace. According to the reactionaries, something is either beautiful or it is evil. There is no such thing as inner depth or context or meaning, everything is purely face value. This is why they destroyed paintings that may not have been a boring landscape or a river, but had genuine meaning. They preach the existence of an "Ubermensch" that is above all others, one that is both beautiful and perfect, inside and outside. And anybody who does not subscribe to this revolting belief is not human, and must be exterminated. Your classmates are quite literally arguing in favor of eugenics. You should ask them if disabled and poor people should also be sterilized and banned from having children. I can guarantee they will say yes. This is because they are nazis.

>>217774
No shit I'm not a wizard, I'm only 20. Apprentice Wizard at best. I'll be a Wizard a decade from now.

>>217773
>Your classmates are quite literally arguing in favor of eugenics. You should ask them if disabled and poor people should also be sterilized and banned from having children. I can guarantee they will say yes. This is because they are nazis.

Well this does not mean to be necessarily chasing genetic failures to death. But indeed the need of constantly cleansing the genepool is ever present since failures are always trespassed for the sake of egoist pleasure intertwined to the normalfaggery which is fear of solitude.

>You should ask them if disabled and poor people should also be sterilized and banned from having children
The future generations, if someone were to truly love their children, deserve better than their parents have. That's a minimal decency moral when it comes to loving offspring.

But you do not see breeding as anything evil, do you? As anything that creates new sensitive life exposed to this world's potential miseries anywhere anytime, and even less if it is for the sake of some genetic failure having the whim of "deserving to be loved and sheeeeeit". So the cycle repeats and leftards harm theirselves and their own kind without even intending it. Idiocy is so many times worse than dire hatred….

>>217773
The problem is that ugly people don't advocate for their rights since sense of beauty is objective. Ugly people like the people here side with the normies, they rather not have ugly kid than have a society where an ugly kid could be happy. You're right my friend, although I doubt anyone here except me would agree with you.

>>214763
>> ugly people shouldn't have kids

Just ask them what they mean by ugly. Taste is obviously subjective and while there may be some social trends in regards to ugliness they are ever changing.
Just look at the Venus… That is what cave men thought of as sexy. Or just look at some medieval paintings of succubi with shaved foreheads. They thought that it made them look smarter because their head was seemingly larger.
Tastes change and there is no actual reason why ugly people shouldn't breed. Avoiding suffering is a retarded argument since we live in a society where you must suffer in order to eat. (you must work in order to live)

Anyhow from a purely "evolutionary" point of view genetic diversity is good for any species. Also Eugenics doesn't work as proved by the fact that ze Aryan Übermenschen got beaten by the "lesser races" twice.


Having said that morality is obviously relative so the choice is yours of you care about what they have to say or not.

Your stupid classmate can't determine who can and can't have children.

>>214763
Your classmate is a fucking idiot.

if ugliness affected you badly what do you think it will do to your kids, something completely different? by having kids you are betting on minuscule chance that they will inherit an unlikely alignment of recessive genes that will make them look better than you did. you can of course choose to do this out of selfishness but it's cruelty inflicted upon someone else.

>>214763
Whoever relies on kids to be happy is internally sick, how could you doubt that genetically flawed people must stop breeding once and for all?

A little flaw, another there… in the end it just brings truly unfortunate offspring who will bear the burden of each flaw just because their ancestors and parents were too mentally deranged to live alone without being in despair under the grasp of desires.

Such people, aren't they utter egoists? They could never be called good parents since they harm their children even before birth!

>I find myself of the opinion that if an ugly gut gets a chance he should have children. He too deserves all the happiness of having a child.

May God save us from you and your kind. Were you not a failed normie you wouldn't spew such brainrots

>And who knows maybe due to the randomity of universe the child turns out to be Chad or Stacy
So they become even worse as a plague, having the flawed genomes within, hiding, waiting for the next generation like a pack of wolves after a lost sheep!

>I feel grateful at times.
Were you to even know what "grateful" means you would fiercely become eugenic without doubting.

>>217888
>>217889
The best thing about you two, is when you get naturally shunned by healthy beauty standards, so you may rot in your rage while unable to keep your misery flowing forwards in time.

Who's gonna blame any kids with parents like you, when he curses them?

>Anyhow from a purely "evolutionary" point of view genetic diversity is good for any species. Also Eugenics doesn't work as proved by the fact that ze Aryan Übermenschen got beaten by the "lesser races" twice

So that's what means to you losing war due to numbers, in a time span short enough to not even bring any visible effects on their genepool. With this is obvious why many lefties still insist on holocaust bring real despite knowing the alt version

>>217891
OP is right. Ugliness is not a disability. Most humans are ugly or plain to look at and yet they reproduce en masse. There is nothing remarkable about billions of people either and yet they have kids.

Superficiality has worsened because modern society is obsessed with appearances and looks, vanity has done nothing but increase as a result of social media and celebrity worship.

>>217895
Still undesirable. Also reflecting inner traits of the individual

This discussion is so nonsensical. Nobody deserves happiness, nor people choose to be happy or sad. Under the materialistic thinking, it's just a consequence of your choices and your enviroment. Your classmate, however, is a moron. He must leave a pretty meaningless life for claiming that ugly people shouldn't have kids.

>>217898
*What I meant is that there's no such thing as "deserving to be happy".

>>217895
Most of the world's procreation happens in third world countries where succubi are illiterate and the general IQ hovers around mental retardation.

In the west fewer and fewer succubi are having children, and even fewer men.

>>217898
>>217899
>peaking retardation
leave those meds

>>214763
The normalfags here who are gaslighting ugly wizards need to read about the "Ugly laws" in the US. They literally would put you in jail for showing your ugly face in public. Always remember that normies would do this again if they could get away with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugly_law

>>218720
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing Anon, I've learned something cool today.

>>217895
>Ugliness is not a disability.
Why not?
I think it can be compared to a mild, high-functioning autism: people with that have fine IQ and able bodies, but they're still considered disabled because of how hard autism fucks with their social skills. If autists are disabled because of problems with socializing, then I don't see why extreme ugliness couldn't be considered a disability as well.
>and yet they reproduce en masse
Plenty of disabled people have children.

>>218728
>Why not?
A disability is something that prevents you from doing something necessary to survival. Being ugly doesn't afflict anyone's lifespan unless they're groomed and conditioned by retards in to believing that they ought to be sad if they are ugly.

people hate you if you're ugly
they will bully you, target you, make fun of you, say the meanest things
it's done at an early age
trauma that lasts for years
negative impact for most of your life
like pstd victims

it's over. Being ugly and autistic is a curse. I am blackpilled for life the rope awaits me.

>>218730
>>218730
> A disability is something that prevents you from doing something necessary to survival.
Where did you pull that definition from? Your ass?
And you've completely ignored my point about autism. Do you think high functioning autism is NOT a disability? It doesn't prevent you from anything necessary to survival.

Now that I look up online definitions of "disability" (like from wikipedia: "Disability is the experience of any condition that makes it more difficult for a person to do certain activities or have equitable access within a given society.") I'm even more convinced that ugliness could be considered one.

Your arguments are invalid and I urge you to rethink your statements.

Not reading all this thread but ugly people shouldn't be reproducing and I don't see the problem with "ugly laws", if anything it's a honorable concept. I'm not even saying that everyone should look like a "Chad" or something, at least they just shouldn't harm your eyes.
Liberals are the ones going on about how "everyone is beautiful" and that "we should accept everyone as they are".
Also wizards who are wizards simply for being ugly and not for psychological reasons are basically failed normalfags.
>t. not ugly, but autistic

>>218766
Austism is a cope. There are plenty of people on the spectrum that are married, have good jobs and live a normalfag life. Unless you're a drooling sperg then "being autistic" is not an excuse. You are more of a failed normalfag than an ugly wizard.

>>218772
>There are plenty of people on the spectrum that are married, have good jobs and live a normalfag life
"Plenty" of people get struck by lightning, so what? Using an absolute quantifier is dishonest, what matters is the PERCENTAGE.

>>218766
>waifufag is a gynocentrist
You can't get laid because you put pussy on a pedestal so much.

>>218787
What the fuck are you even going on about? Where did I say in my post that I worship succubi or sex… or rather, what unrelated statement "triggered" you to think that?
Also posting one random 2D succubus does not make me a "waifufag" unless you came from reddit to imageboards yesterday. If you want to see a real waifufag look at >>>/dep/294024

>>218772
Even if you're high functioning, it's harder…

>>218788
Moron. Waifuists, betas, and male feminists are all gynocentrists. Their reason for staying virgins is so they don't devalue stinkubi who they view as goddesses.

Ignore this (>>218799) reatrd. He is 100% an ESL who despite not knowing any significant English or its naunces, will continue to insist HIS definitions of words mean what HE defines them to be.

Ugliness is like stupidity, it's a fault people are blind to unless it's at the extremities where it's undeniable. It's probably some inherent cognitive blindness we have to protect our ego.

Stupid people themselves talk shit about stupid people and think they're smart, they mostly talk shit about the retards drooling from their mouths. Of course their own failings are excused with an ADHD diagnosis or the fact they're a "different kind of learner". They'll make jokes about how much better it'd be blowing up the tard bus while walking to school, as society doesn't need them, never mind the biggest drain on society comes from the 85IQ criminal caste we consider functional. Actual retards aren't really much of a social drain in any society, and they don't have kids, they live very astute wizzie tier lives and don't commit many crimes.

Ugliness is the same. 2/10 uggos will talk mad shit about other people being ugly, being blind to the fact they're fat and off-putting themselves. Funnily enough beautiful people don't feel this need, as they've never really considered themselves at risk of being in the same category. People talk shit about ugly people and how they shouldn't be able to breed, relishing punching down, as they secretly feel that's how more beautiful people feel about them.

The extremities of ugliness are actually like the extremities of stupidity, it's harmless at the extreme. Extreme Uggos aren't likely to breed anyway and have congenital problems that often inhibit it, the same way most down syndrome types are sterile. However, it's the 2/10 uggos that are not extremely ugly but just average ugly, who do breed, who do have lots of ugly children and are making the world uglier.

The far bottom end of the bell curve is pretty based despite the shit people talk about it, Schopenhauer said genius and retards get along for the same reason Grandparents and Children get along. It's the people in the middle, specially the bottom end of the middle, that are shitty.

>>218766
Case of an autist lacking compassion #1833744957

>>219456
Irrelevant. You also aren't helping your rightfully uncompassionate image

>>219457
>Irrelevant.
No it's not. You being either a third world shitskin or someone who appreciates them is always relevant to the discussion, because it directly corresponds to your capacity to uptake and understand new information that challenges your views. It's the difference between arguing with a human and arguing with a monkey.
>You also aren't helping your rightfully uncompassionate image
To be compassionate isn't determined by an unweilding dedication to feel bad for any and all people. He may have compassion for his own hundred million people (Whites), while having no compassion towards the billions of people (Niggers) who are religiously making life harder for these people of his. This doesn't make him uncompassionate. If anything, his adverseness to ugly shitworld thirdskins breeding en masse really is compassionate because the end result would result in less suffering for those types -and the world - after a single generation.

>>219458
Race is completely irrelevant here. I was making a point about how that post proved that autistic people are lacking in compassion (support of ugly laws), and then you jump to another topic you're obsessed with for some reason. There's a whole board for people like you on 4chan

Why can't you just accept that you're a compassionless person? Does admitting that really hurt that much? Either change it or accept it, stop living a lie

>>219459
>lacking in compassion (support of ugly laws),
But supporting laws that would reduce the genetic reach of ugly people doesn't make someone uncompassionate for the reasons I explained.

>>219460
I guess you really can't stop living a lie

>>219455
Autism is unrelated to capacity for empathy.

>>219463
I'm white. You should really stop being race-obsessed or alternatively live out your compassionless autism on /pol/.

Do you remember you reaction to ugly people when you were a kid?

>>217891
>A little flaw, another there… in the end it just brings truly unfortunate offspring who will bear the burden of each flaw just because their ancestors and parents were too mentally deranged to live alone without being in despair under the grasp of desires.

its what happened to me. two families, fairly un attractive. And, my mental case 4/10 dad, who knew shouldnt be makin kids, hooks up w/ my 3/10 mom, should of become a nun,

finally ends w/ me, 2/10 train wreck, w/ zero positive genetics, face, intellect, athletic ability.

and then i see people postin, remind me of My Dad, and his crazy BS, dreamin about makin a kid like me,

>>218731

do what i do, Live out of spite to people made you, and people curse at you.

Finally, and thankfully, world reproduction is startin to slow.

My parents, if were young people today. My dad would be the dude boastin on this or similar forum: I havent left basement in 3+ Years!!! My mom would be runnin around streets screamin about radical feminist stuff.

Today, people like my parents would never even find each other, let alone interact in Any Way in person.

i see it as a win. im a 2/10 and dont wish the curse my life was/is on anyone. And, any actually fellow 2/10 will feel same, and wont be dreamin, if only i could do, wat, make 1/10 babies!! But celebrate less and less people look like us and live our lives. If you re a 2/10 you already know there was some un natural chaos that led to your creation

>>219473
(((compassion)))

>>219492
(((go back to pol)))

It's not so much as they "think" but their actions which reveal how they operate on a fundamental level.
They hate virgin men. They assume the worst of silent types if they don't look good. The short guys get bullied. The ugly are always being taken advantage by females.

>>214763
Your classmate was correct, the lives of the genetically unfortunate are nothing but misery and suffering, ugly people cannot be happy because of said genetics, it's morally wrong to allow them to breed. How can you be a blackpilled wizard and get to your twilight age and not understand this? What gives you the right to pass on your subhuman hereditary burden and to force another poor soul to suffer for a lifetime of torment as you yourself did? If your parents had been sterillised you, the elephant man never would have had to suffer for a temporary eternity. The children wouldn't be "chad" or "stacy" because you don't have chad or stacy genetics, you have subhuman genetics, genetics aren't random, they're not like a character generator. Don't breed, seriously. Not that you have the choice to anyway but just don't. If you are dysgenic and you breed you deserve to be executed.

>>217773
>You should ask them if disabled and poor people should also be sterilized and banned from having children
They should be sterillised and banned from having children. That is actually exactly what the world needs, you retard. You would not be suffering in your predicament today if that had happened.