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 No.155841[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

people over 20, how do you still manage to enjoy imageboards when more than 90% of the population is obviously underage or just slightly above the threshold? do you even realize that you're trying to have a discourse about life with people who never had to deal with anything more complicated than math homework? are there actually any people here over 20 who enjoy staying here because you can relate to what is being said here and other wizards and not because it's just habit for you and you feel like you have nowhere else to go?
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 No.160183

>>155841
It's not just imageboards. Everything is just going to get worse and worse. The one saving grace of imageboards is the fact that you are still anonymous. Even with new demographics, there are still those like myself (25+) on image boards because there's nothing else for people like us online. Sometimes, you can find some decent threads from time to time.Otherwise, the only reason I even use imageboards still is because the alternative is significantly worse.

 No.160378

> how do you still manage to enjoy imageboards when more than 90% of the population is obviously underage or just slightly above the threshold?

Move to boards with slightly less preponderance of it. Going from 4pol to 8pol helped, but I'm a fish out of water resorting back to halfchan now that it's down. Fucking MLPOL is more adult by comparison.

 No.160381

I don't anymore. This summer I mostly stopped browsing imageboards. For the most part it's not real.

Take the website crab.crab

Do you really think the person who has posted, over 4000 times, "I want a qt loli catgirl to friendzone me" is really a crab?

No, of course not. It's mostly bored 14 year olds (I hope they're early teens, anyway).

The internet is like if the one shitty person you knew growing up, who always linked to goatse, now was every person on the internet but now it includes everyone on their phone to make it even worse.

 No.160383

>>160378
>Going from 4pol to 8pol helped
Cringe

 No.160394

I don't actually because I no longer dwell on the fact I'm a social outcast. To be honest a lot of people here are on the autistic spectrum, severely depressed, or have a physical disability or other mental disorder. Maybe I am some of those things too, but no longer stronger identify with either of those crowds. My 20s were about making incremental improvements to my life by finding out what makes me happy. Only now that I'm hitting my mid 20s am I seeing results of that. In either case it's time consuming and posting on wizchan is often counter productive because people here have a different outlook on like. Maybe that's an age thing, I'm not sure.


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 No.158275[Reply]

Stoicism is a school of Philosophy with roots in ancient Greece. It is believed that its founder, Zeno of Citium, came to invent it after a unfortunate shipwreck turned him from a prosperous merchant into a very poor man. The story tells that after this unlucky event Zeno became an assiduous reader of the life of Socrates, and that instructed by the example of the old Greek philosopher he himself came to make philosophy on his own and teach it at the Stoa Poikile, a famous building of the city of Athens - hence the name of the school.

Sotoicism focused on the study of Logic, Metaphysics and Ethics. But, in contrast to academic philosophy how we know nowadays, they were only interested in abstract reasoning because they believed that their findings should resonate in behavior,i.e, in what means to live a good life. Having this in mind, stoics often stressed the importance of self-control, discipline and clarity of thinking: virtues that could lead someone to attain what they called atharaxia, which means "apathy", "tranquility", a state of non-perturbation in the psyché.

Stoicism became so influential that even among ancient Romans it was often practiced. Amongst the well-known roman stoics are the slave Epictetus, Nero's preceptor Seneca, and the successful emperor Marcus Aurelius. All of them have famous writings on the practice of stoa, from somewhat different practical standing points, as you can infer by their positions in Roman society.

I highly recommend to fellow wizards the hearing of this audio book from Epictetus Enchiridion. It has good advice indeed to deal with various occasions that can put us off in daily life. Sometimes difficult to attain, but the idea is not to become an ancient philosopher from day to night.
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 No.158355

>>158331
Can you ever stop speaking for other people as if you were inside everyone's head for once? So now you know everyone's motives leading to their specific interests too? Will you ever get off your pedestal in heaven and join us mortals down here?
The problem is you want to reap the good parts of a system of thought without having to know it. You said to have surpassed Stoicism, which I find it impressive given you can't even tell the difference between self-restraint and Stoicism in the first place. You're a very awkward person to be able to affirm having surpassed a hole in the ground without knowing where the hole is in the first place. You didn't watch the movie but want to criticize it anyway just by looking at the title. I push you to define your terms, you say it's myopic, philosophical masturbation. How would you react if some guy came to you and said he wants to know how to read and write but wants to be spared of knowing the ABC? Because that's exactly what you're doing. In the meantime, you claim to know what's wrong with Western Philosophy, Psychological and Psychoanalitical practice, what people from the past and present think and feel about their own lives and I don't even know what else at this point.
It seems to me you're going back to front on everything. You're so eager to surpass and criticize you can't take a step back and consider you have to know the subject matter first.

>>158339
>>158340
That's a lot. I'll try to explain as briefly as I can what I think the ideas behind the aphorism are instead. In Stoic epistemology, there are 4 basic elements. First is Nature "things". Nature is always true (also in the logical sense), meaning Nature is always how things really are. Don't think Nature here as the animals, plants, rivers and so on. Nature in the stoic sense is an epistemological concept, it's more like the idea of matter, the things that compose and build everything and has its physical rules that create and run everything. Nature is its own thing, beyond the control of men, running its Natural Law forever. Now, for reasons too vast and weird to expose here, you have in Nature a thing called Reason and a creature with access to Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.158356

>>158355
>Man are disturbed not by Nature but by his Impressions and false Judgements they form concerning Nature.

I hate these word games. You just took a simple concept that can be described in a sentence and dumped a tedious re-iteration just so you can use the special capitalized words that make it seem like everything's part of some metaphysical reality.

Activating event (Nature) -> Belief (false Judgement) -> Consequence (Disturbance)

There's nothing in your post that couldn't be said in a much simpler and practical way (like in my previous post). Many of stoicism assumptions are wrong from the standpoint of what we know about the brain and human psychology. Oh well, at least you took the effort to write out this tedium instead of dumping a book like last time.

 No.158358

>>158353
>>158356
After reading all your posts, and assuming your personality only through those and nothing else, my advice is, if you haven't tried already, to completely give up the intellectual/theoretical parts of the matter. It appears to me you have very little or none of the scholar's patience and you're not made for it. You don't give a shit for the most part, correct me if I'm wrong. You can't appreciate or understand the difference between concepts or how they lead to similar but decisively different paths from one another. Not only that but you don't seem to realize the amount of tranquility you can reach just by the process of trying to understand something inside out. Do you understand how necessary that is? Or spend days trying to understand the difference between two ideas that look similar but are not? And also I mean the actual physical part of sitting in a chair hidden away from the world and spend 6 months in a single work trying to figure it out all its parts. That is a source of great tranquility. The act of fully understanding a single concept of Philosophy, Science or Literature IS IN ITSELF the praxis. You don't get that at all, you missed because you're in constant hurry to beat everything up. You seem to (again, going just by your posts itt) be overly anxious about what is not in the article or book you're reading at the moment. Everything has to be consumed as fast as possible and into the pile partly and badly digested, part unread, part forgotten, most ignored. It's obvious to me you didn't take the time to fully understand a single idea from Stoicism. A SINGLE ONE. You keep drawing parallels between things you don't understand and don't care to understand either. You call it boring. Well, no wonder.

>There's nothing in your post that couldn't be said in a much simpler and practical way like in my previous post

Your post don't have anything about Stoicism at all, it's just you. Besides I was responding to a request. It may come as a shock to you but, again, your posts is not explaining anything about Stoicism.

>I hate these word games. You just took a simple concept that can be described in a sentence and dumped a tedious re-iteration just so you can use the special
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 No.158404

>>158353
>Tranquility isn't happiness
My apologies for the conceptual hop.

>a lack of suffering

This still leads to the same issue in >>158337 which could quite likely be extended to all emotional states, and lo, possibly much further as I hinted at with the Supersymmetry image.

To elucidate, it seems to me that emotional states of being sit on a spectrum. Removing one side is impossible, you can’t have one without the barometer of the opposing emotion, these things after all are quantities of chemicals. To some degree one can move the pointer along it’s positive axis, how one affects this desirable inclination is related to a combination of factors; genetic disposition, environment, and as you correctly state memory. We don’t have control over our genes beyond pre-emptive techniques and questionable crispr activities. Environment is sometimes out of our control especially for the unfortunate. Memory is something we can have a say in.

It’s my view that if we fill our life with good actions we accumulate a corpus positive memories increasing there probability of selection whence adhoc recollection occurs; this pushes the typical location the pointer toward the desirable side of the spectrum. Of course memories have differing strengths of imposition and in severe cases I feel introducing concepts such as thank-fullness and forgiveness in both the physical and metaphysical sense play out well.

I’m typically cognisant of not delving too deeply into discussing these areas as many people (including your past self) reject these types of ‘spiritual’ propositions, failing to see that at their core are cognitive models, techniques, practices, and ideas based upon several millennia of observational human study.

For example, the scientific community has rather recently understood the underlying mechanisms and benefits of fasting, of which society has partaken in as a spiritual rite for some time. It even feels weird to type fasting and science on the same line. The question arises what other overlaps exist in these arenas which have been sidelined, will prayer and meditation be future scientific revelations?

 No.160387

Perhaps this will help.

https://insightmeditationcenter.org/books-articles/equanimity/

I feel that Stoicism without Buddhist/eastern thought mixed in for further insight and clarification is incomplete.



 No.152519[Reply]

I would like to know my fellows' experience with dealing with these categories of people in your life. I've had encounters with all 4 (separate individuals) at various times in my life and found them upsetting in various ways. They've all let me down. I've never felt loved by any of them. I feel like I'm the inherent target of all of their hatred, that they all wish I was dead. I'm angry at my mother for her poor choices and not being choosier and holding higher standards. I listed in them in order of encounter. Each is more awkward than the last. Each is less sane and stable than the last. Each is more violent than the last. Each is more NPCish than the last. I feel like I get pulled into conflicts, manipulated, used as a buffer, when as the person who choose to bring them into our life, my mom should be the buffer and should not be obligating me to interact with them.
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 No.160309

>>160307
he;s been a psycho assaulting people and robbing people and listening to nigger music since before the car accident btw. so dont go "omg poor baby, the car wreck ruined his life. be his friend ! :)" no. he's always been an 80 IQ nigger boy.

the car accident happened a year and a half ago. he was literally fleeing from police after multiple drug sales. i wish he had died but unfortunately our family has thick skulls.

 No.160310

>>160309
dude should rot in prison tbh LOL scumbag human trash

 No.160320

>siblings' dads

 No.160334

>dads
I've only had one father and he's been mostly absent, he works the majority of the waking day even while I was younger.
We get along decently but I find him kind of annoying and boomerish.
He did fuck all for raising me(neither did my mom) but he doesn't bug me for being a neet so I guess I can't complain.
>siblings
I have a brother with schizophrenia and brain damage, he's a handful and he just bothers me.

I feel like being raised with no real attention paid to me from family and no friends made me into the hermit and I guess
I don't mind. But once my dad retires or dies im probably going to have to commit suicide.

 No.160347

Boomer as hell but what this guy says does seem to fit what I observed myself growing up in the 90s in a not so great area. I was lucky in that my father was mostly decent and made a effort to stay in my life after the divorce but all around me I saw families and our community fall apart and how bad it fucked up so many young guys.



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 No.160346[Reply]

Works of art make rules; rules do not make works of art.

adding some text for character limit

 No.160361

Moved to >>>/b/389553.



 No.160094[Reply]

I understand that expressing one's disdain for memes is perhaps a highly peculiar thing to be doing on somewhere like an imageboard, which is completely antithetical to the whole experience, but hear me out for a second. You'd most definitely see a greater variety of thought provoking or genuinely funny memes (more OC too) thereby making the signal to noise ratio relatively high. But, in my view atleast, this has led to an incubation of a progressively elitist culture in various parts of the internet. This whole notion of "I know this funi imag and you dont!!" is propagated everywhere, from imageboards to fucking reddit. It's no longer a form of "art" like it used to be (in the sense that you could have a single image sum up an incredibly complex societal issue), but rather an "oopsie" (or whatever kids call it these days) that some faggot with millions of subscribers on youtube made (pewdiepie, however good a person he may be, is a perfect exemplification of this). More importantly, its the newest form of social signalling, and its prevalent absolutely everywhere on the internet, the blatantly contrarian or edgy for the sake of being edgy memes given the most priority.

It's most akin to the downfall of universities and academia as a whole. 30-40 years ago, universities truly were a place where one could educate themselves and feel comfortable in doing so in any school. Now it's all about where specifically you went, what sort of degrees you were doing (whether you enjoy it or not is irrelevant), etc. It's only purpose really is limited to social signalling now. If you want to educate yourself, you can do so off the internet very easily (like that dude who taught himself the MIT Computer Science & EE course in a year off the internet, OSSU, et al).
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 No.160231

>>160226
Agreed, but that wasn't what I wrote. Care to develop that point a little?

>>160225
Were you the one shitposting earlier? I thought it was funny. What made you so upset?

>>160228
Why do you let it bother you? I'm curious, >>160099 asked OP the same question and didn't get a proper response.

 No.160235

I've never much liked memes because they're just short term entertainment at the cost of long term quality. People find memes funny and spam them which in turn destroys the noise to signal ratio. Most communication is sub intelligent by nature and memes just push that to the extreme.

 No.160244

>>160231
>Why do you let it bother you? I'm curious, >>160099 asked OP the same question and didn't get a proper response.

OP here, sorry if you felt my previous response wasn't sufficient, I'll try to reiterate what I meant.

Why do I care so much? Well the answer is quite trivial, the internet has become my source of entertainment, information and "refuge" so to speak, and honestly I don't think it'd be far fetched to compare my thoughts about the internet the same way an animal thinks and cares for his territory, an almost primal instinct. I don't share the same level of complacency and general indifference toward a construct I have interacted with extensively for the vast majority of my life that you may have. I'm assuming everyone here knows about the "eternal september", because that phrase gets dropped around this site very frequently, but as a consequence of the increasingly trivial nature of technology and the lower barrier to entry I feel the internet as a whole is nearing peak degeneracy. The previous generation always thinks of the next as less intelligent, sophisticated and cultured. But only a fool can disagree with such a sentiment now, we can genuinely see a massive difference between people like us and the young of today. A decade ago, only the outcasts had the time and dedication to access and use the internet frequently (given the substantially higher barrier to entry as previously mentioned), because they were desperate to find an aggregate of like-minded people, and not the cesspit that was the real world and the associated social minutia.

Now any child can hop on their Samcuck or iJew devices, open up a botnet like chrome and search up whatever regressive and degenerate shit catered specifically for them. And I'm not only talking about memes. Mainstream social media has fucked us all, and this shit seeps out everywhere. From virtually every online game to even this site. They've already taken over 4chan years ago in their attempt to find garbage to put on r/greentexts, xD! Teenage succubi can send titty pics from the comfort of their bedroom. And all 30 year old succubi need to do to is turn on a webcam and stream minecraft, exposing their breasts very slightly and voila. They'll have hundreds ofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

 No.160245

OP I agree with everything you're said so far. We live in the society of the spectacle. I think a better way to look at it is that the internet going to shit; it can motivate you to pick up hobbies. I've started painting and reading a lot. Maybe try to find new forms of escapism? Just a thought

 No.160256

>>160244
nothing in life just happens, nothing is inevitable. It is all a reaction and someone can subvert it if they try hard enough.



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 No.153066[Reply]

Anyone else never officially diagnosed with autism? Your RMET score is supposedly a strong predictor of autism. I thought most questions felt impossible but still didn't do as bad as I thought.

Also post your scores if you like.
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 No.160154

>>153066
The page dosen't load with Tor or Opera

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>>153066
What the fuck? 19? I don't think I have autism…

 No.160177

29/36. Much better than I expected, most of the pictures were really hard to guess.

 No.160179

>>153066
I got about 28/36, but for most of them there's no way I would have chosen any of those 4 words or even emotions close to them if I had been able to make up my own

 No.160180

>>160179
Also I was actually diagnosed with autism as an adult, for what it's worth. I'm just very good at doing tests. It's more that there was always one word which seemed to be not like the others and less that I could determine the emotion in the eyes.



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 No.160158[Reply]

>tfw wizchan doesnt have ads
>tfw wizchan doesnt have premium accounts
>tfw wizchan doesnt have captcha
>tfw wizchan doesnt have normies
>tfw wizchan doesnt have succs

 No.160159

>>160158
yeah but it has weaboos like you who are hard on the eyes.

 No.160161

Moved to >>>/meta/50748.



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 No.159759[Reply]

Hello wizchan, I have a visit with the state doctor in a few hours and I'm rather nervous about messing this up. I followed Uncle Remus guide last year, got myself admitted and I'm now diagnosed with schizophrenia and severe anxiety. It took awhile but now the fated appointment is here, this will decide if I'm free from work. How can I perfectly mimic a schizophrenic person at this interview?

- don't shake hands
- stare at the wall
- act very dumb, sluggish replies

Is there any other thing I should do? Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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 No.159764

Jewtube schizophrenic interviews. Imitate their mannerisms.

 No.159780

>>159775
Only time will tell at this point, I followed the other anons advice. I will update on here if I get neetbux in a few weeks or if they ask me to reapply.

 No.159976

>>159780
im a little late but one big thing is to only give one word replies. never input anything else, only answer the question.

 No.160011

>>159759
How did it go?

 No.160012

>>160011
also how long did it take for you to get an appointment, did you go to any psychiatrist/psychologist etc if so for how long?



 No.152782[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

A lot of Wizards hold to an EvoPsych, Sociobiological, Darwinian worldview. But then where does that leave us as Wizard virgins? The whole goal and point of this viewpoint is sexual reproduction.

Sexual pleasure is the highest reward circuitry of the mammal, theres no point denying it. But these brains weren't meant to cope with the challenge of streaming HD VR porn. And thats were NoFap comes in. Where you see all these normie and potential normie men. Men with wives and gfs. Who give all that up because porn is so much better than the reality. And they are so torn up about it. Because they should like 3d reality meatspace more, but their brains don't.

So in that sense we as Wizards can admit that sexual pleasure is the cookie jar reward of evolution, but we stole it without doing our homework first.

What does this have to do with Super AI? Because in the very very distant future, long past the Terminator Singularity stage, when Super AI has processed every atom in the universe. It will all serve one utilitarian function. To maximize the pleasure of a gazillion simulated minds. Theres no need for a story or history to get mind to orgasm. Just skip all that to the moment of pleasure and make it eternal, a gazillion times over. And that is what the universe will be. The final fulfillment of the utilitarian calculus. The maximization of pleasure without pain.

So to fap to HD porn is to benefit from the primitive reward circuitry of evolution, but it is also to disconnect the pleasure from story and effort and suffering and to see to the future of the universe of Super AI and the Orgasmium (also known as hedonium)

https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Orgasmium

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1413237-consider-an-ai-that-has-hedonism-as-its-final-goal
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 No.156875

>>156873
>Man porn addiction is the life
no-homo amiright?

 No.159906

>>159905
months of nofap but no desire for sex

I am the ultimate truwiz

 No.159907

>>159906
what foods do you eat? how much muscle do you have? how much do you weigh? what do you do all day?

i must know details of the perfect wiz specimen

 No.159908

>>159907
I eat fruits and meat and rice. I don't have that much muscles. I never measured my weight for about a year or so. I spend my day reading stuff on computer or in real life.

Not being obsessed with sex is more related to your mentality than your physical shape according to my personal experience. I never desired a gf since I was in kindergarten as I told my mom that I will never marry. You might not believe me but it was true that I never wished to marry even a single point my life even since my beginning. The only time when I started to feel a slight attraction was when I browsed on 4chan r9k many years ago but I had finally recovered from that devastating social conditioning. What's in your mind is more important than some diet or whatever if you wish to truly reject the social conditioning towards sexuality.

 No.159922

>>159908
i dont see what's so hard to believe about any of that. thanks though


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 No.159918[Reply]

someone give me a quick rundown on wizardly.fun

 No.159919

Made by IRC larping boomers who are a part of a gay sex cult. Oh, it's also hosted on the same server as wizchan.org. Go figure.

 No.159920

Moved to >>>/b/379561.



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