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[–]  No.220249[Reply]>>221732[Watch Thread]

I've been thinking about this for a while. If you have moderately wealthy parents the best strategy to be a neet long term is not to just keep living with them forever. This is the lowest effort option, but not the best because having wealthy parents gives you another option: Get a loan and start a business by hiring wage slaves.

Being the owner of a business that runs itself because the proper wageslaves have been hired is basically the same as being a neet only you get wealthy as a result. Passive income has always been the key, but let's be honest it's hard to achieve unless you got lucky with crypto or something. Business is a much more surefire way to make money and it can easily become passive for the owner of the business. It's actually more normal for business owners these days to not work than the opposite. This means that business owners are essentially the highest class of neets. Those who own stocks and stuff are similar but you have to have lucked into that unless you can manage to wageslave long enough to build a nest egg. That is too long though. I think the amount of time required to become wealthy via passive income is much less for business than wageslaving. You could earn in one year what it would take you 10 years of wage slaving to earn.

The key is to start something with low capital start up costs. At first you will need to do a lot of work yourself to establish the business, but once it is going, you can just let the wage slaves do everything. If you have parents that can supply or cosign for a 30k loan you could probably start a business. That is enough to hire a couple of wage slaves for several months. Do stuff like advertise your business to get clients/customers. Utilise cheap contractors on fiverr or whatever to do stuff your wageslaves can't do like web/graphic design . Glitz it up, make it look professional. The other key is of course hiring the right wage slaves with the right combination of exploitability/reliability and then finding the most effective way to exploit them long-term. I would say having a business plan is another key but honestly just copy an existing business plan. Business is a game that has already been solved. Just copy whatever everyone else is doing but with a different logo. All that happens is you end up with a slice of the same pie as them.

Like they say, if you can't beat them, join them. If you're gonna be a neet leeching off the largess of society, might as well be aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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[–]  No.220294

>>220291

says tard never worked or started or ran a business.

[–]  No.220295>>220298

>>220293
why do you regret? what is your job?

[–]  No.220298>>220299

>>220295

my job is Not windin up homeless,

cause i was a neet dumbass, so im stuck at zero

be a neet, end up homeless ,

Neet - O

[–]  No.220299

>>220298
nigga talk normaly

[–]  No.221732

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>>220249 (OP)
NO LOANS. NO THROWING MYSELF INTO SUCH GAMBLES LIKE A FOOL TO GENERATE DEBT. Whoever pays usury is just giving himself away as a slave for the banker. A type of cuckodry, no other thing.

Imagine not being a manifestor while running into such idiocy just out of "I might work" and then just being left with debt and failure or rather a horrible set of occupations you never manage to fully digest.

Not even manifestors are told to act that recklessly out of urgency!



[–]  No.220220[Reply]>>220221[Watch Thread]

So, why the majority of wizzies are profoundly racist and right wing even though right winger politicians are against NEETbux and pro work? What type of mental gymnastics justify many wizzies supporting a political instance that hate NEETs and wizards in general?

[–]  No.220221>>220223

>>220220 (OP)
>american
>white
>virgin
>30 yo
>bad experience with non white people and white normalfags and succubi
>hate is own kind and the world
>racist
frankly I don't really know maybe just a influence from /pol/ 4chad

[–]  No.220223>>220226

>>220221
With racist I can understand when you're a dude living next to violent black people or some problematical immigrants, what I don't understand is why would a NEET wizard support right wing politicians when they are the first to fuck up people that doesn't work or isn't suit for mainstream society.

[–]  No.220224

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I used to have an interest in fascism and the right, but as a neet hikki i came to the conclusion that in the event of the rise of facism i would be sent to the camps, so it wasnt meant to be.

Also i couldn't be a commie as i am not a worker.

And crapitlism is for the rich.

So eventually i decided on the only ideology left to be was anarchism, ted kaczynski, jacques ellul, and max stirner all had appeal to me.

All of this being said, i cant stand libtards, identity politics, virtue signaling, and self flagellation. so i guess im an anti social leftoid

[–]  No.220226

>>220223
I think most wizards have a job

[–]  No.220227

Try to keep broad-coverage "left and right" political discussions within the Politics Thread on /lounge/



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[–]  No.220214[Reply]>>220215[Watch Thread]

I deleted all my accounts through which I had online dating and friends. I realized that I was alone. The Internet is my window and my world. It's so funny. I stopped listening to music, playing games, watching stupid videos and movies. Now I only have default programs on my phone and only a browser on my computer. You know, I think that my worries are childish or maybe I've just gone crazy with despair. But I still didn't care for several days I was in a bad place, suffering that I had nothing in my life and I slowly began to understand that I didn't need anything. It's just not bad to be alone. The only people I talk to are my parents or when I go to the checkout at the store

[–]  No.220215

>>220214 (OP)
Doesn't seem healthy. I think you're convincing yourself of "Being fine by yourself" the same way trannies say that they've "never been happier". I pray you can find answers and reach a better place, anon.

[–]  No.220218>>220225

>online dating

wizchan 2024

[–]  No.220219

Do not state or suggest that you had, will have or want to have sexual or romantic experiences.
Do not post about voluntary real life social activities (e.g. going to a bar or party).

[–]  No.220222>>220225

which online dating accounts do you like most, fellow wizards?

[–]  No.220225

>>220218
>>220222
My English is bad. I didn't mean dating sites. I was talking about people I know online but we've never met in real life, hell I don't even know their names



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[–]  No.218748[Reply]>>218831[Watch Thread]

It just dawned on me that I never really had any chance at a normal life. Despite THEIR careful planning of every detail and influences in the environments I was raised in, I was doomed from the start. I didn't go through the worst of situations growing up, other than the most basic levels of third world poverty and being unlikable and annoying to kids my age, things that for sure didn't shape me into what I am today, if anything they taught me a basic notion of hardships I use to analyze stuff. I always felt detached to everyone and everything around me, I knew ever since I was a kid that I wasn't "normal", and dwelling on that thought most likely reinforced it, but also helped develop my capability of insight which is my main link to this world. It goes beyond not being "normal" in that way as I don't have any real interests or hobbies, the closest thing I have to a feeling of self-realization is using pattern recognition, I used it to understand people growing up, connecting dots and developing a semblance of "adequacy" to have around the few people that liked me, and to use in lesser interactions. The only thing actually capable of stimulating me nowadays ever since people started to stare at me with disgust on the street, rendering me unable of most interactions, is breaking down THEIR schemes, I love it. I feel like I understand every single step of the way they go through with them, the way they set the world against us, they corner us, they kill us with anguish. I do enjoy malice, it's something intelligent animals develop, after all, maybe even the most primitive of intelligent behavior. And I can't help but feel like I was born for that, meant to orchestrate and pull strings to such a degree, if I were to fully succumb to malice. I just can't seem to find passion in anything really, dissecting humor maybe, but it's a rather basic way to employ pattern recognition. Maybe if I was born during a less shittier period of humanity, with an environment that actually helped with my developing, I could have done great things. It's just that way, nowadays they systematically set us up for failure, the only ones capable of fulfilling their potential being those raised outside their bubble of control.
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[–]  No.218815

>>218814
LOL

[–]  No.218831>>218875

>>218748 (OP)
We must make the best of what we have minimise regret

[–]  No.218875

>>218831
It's hard to make the best out of such a terrible hand, I honestly can't find genuine and lasting enjoyment in anything, and can't even gather enough interest nor the will to gravitate towards and act upon anything.

[–]  No.220184

>>218761
that's because it's very easy, which is why 15 is actually a very low number for them. If they have a different boyfriend every year for 15 years from 18 to 33 (when they meet Mr. Husband Material) then you get a bodycount of 15. Totally doable for a "shy" succubus (not that succubi can ever be introverted or shy but that's beside the point). Not that high. succubi can easily get it into the 100s, even 1000s

>>218750
It's nothing special but normalfags like to philosophize the most idiotic things out there and turn them into something holy and special.

[–]  No.220191

>>218807
>don't expect miracles
>here's a bunch of placebo miracles

you've committed to a self-flagellation cult based on pseudoscience pushed by insecure crabs in a bucket men, naturally you want your sunk cost fallacy to pay off and are inventing whatever effects you (they) want to perceive. what you think and dwell on are much more important than never releasing semen (which you will eventually in your sleep regardless) and if you believe something to be true it will be. mind over matter - what you think about is much more potent than muh testosterone special sauce.

you could say the same thing about video games, "playing games gives an unnatural amount of dopamine spikes and gives you brainfog" or whatever, ok? even if thats true (which i doubt) does that mean you should completely remove and demonize it, making a community on every site possible to commiserate with other guys that yes, these effects are definitely working guys, and lashout at anyone who suggests otherwise - or just simply regulate your time spent playing (if you have other things you need to do).

ive tried nofap before, nothing changed, and it wasnt hard for me because i only fap a couple times a week at best. some days ill fap and the next day ill be an absolute god gamer with quick as fuck reaction times making hundreds of calculations a second, the next day, after not fapping, ill be a complete shitter. theres a hundred other variables you could consider before busting a nut - what did i do today? what did i eat? what did i drink? how tired am i? am i content? or am i sad and despondent? this stuff is pretty nuanced.

one day i went for a sunny walk in the park, everyone tells you the sun is so good for you, right? well they convinced me, i felt great and put it down to that. the next week i tried again, it didnt work, if anything i felt worse and i wouldve preferred rain. after thinking about it, it was actually what i did in the morning which allowed me to feel good on that particular day, the weather was redundant. life is complicated but also very simple.

almost all nofappers are low status men unhappy with their lot in life, who erroneously think not touching their dick is gonna give them superpowers (as you described here) - if you decide to wake up one day, subscribe to nofPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



[–]  No.220189[Reply][Watch Thread]

hello anons, i've been trying to do things in FL to sound sort of realistic, this is one attempt. this is a personal non-serious thing, nothing in stake here, but please critize it however you want.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0iTFxFXje1g

[–]  No.220190

Moved to >>>/music/10429.



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[–]  No.218110[Reply][Watch Thread]

During my middle school to the end of my highschool I used to belive that i was better than the people that surrounded me, that I was more intelligent and that they were too emotive and dumb. But now, with 18 years old and on my last year of highschool, i just notice how this thought isn't necessarily true. I'm in this school since the last year and I had finally found people who are interested in things i like such as anime, arts and media in general. People that are intelligent, you can notice this by the way they express themselves, but on the other hand they also had developed the abilities of being social (thus not being weird), being healty and any kind of normalfag hobbies while also being intelligent.

This broke my illusion that i was the only smart guy in the world, or that i was somehow superior to my surroundings. So I was thinking about this and concluded that normalfags are naturally better than me, in some aspects (but not just socially) because the way they interact with the world and people is different than mine, but not in a normal subjective way: they get to talk with people more often, go outside with more frequency, satisfty their own sexual desires by partying and all sorts of things that they do, while i don't.

It's not like my way of living didn't provided me good things, it actually did: i was able to be a more empathetic person (this is also due to me watching Evangelion), observative person and also stimulated my sensitivity and thinking, qualities that i already had since i was younger. I'm not racist like they are, i try to respect people more than them and i don't drink, but… at what cost? Losing things like what its called "youth" by the slice of life animes that i watch, being ashamed of myself, feeling that i don't have a place to belong but my bedroom and my computer.

This maybe is confusing but to sum it up, normalfags have a better life than mine, they act dumb but they actually lived really good experiences which makes me inferior to a portion of them, as oposite to my previous beliefs. They naturally learn rich experiences by being sharing knowledge and
well-being with their peers, while I, as an outcast, doesn't. They will live happy lives, with not so much despair to feel, good jobs, fulfilling lives and all, even if they have to pay the price of being slightly dumber than they would if escaping from the rat race. Normalfags can feel disgusting sometimes, but i think that living Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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[–]  No.220158>>220167

>>220152
>Excuse me if these sound more like personal gripes, but if you want, I can search and quote some of the stuff that, in my opinion, show that Aristotle was misguiding people with his words.
yes please, show me the quotes
>I could tell you what my definition of truth is, if you wanted to as well.
yes I want to hear it
>I enjoy history and philosophy, but neither of those pay the bills, so I chose engineering instead. I probably should have just taken up a menial job, it would have saved my parents the grief.
you're right. philosophy must be a hobby and not a job. better doing another job then philosopher or maybe Im wrong

[–]  No.220167>>220169

>>220158
From On Sleep, Section 3.

Aristotle follows his standard format, brings up previous points, states observations and draws conclusions. The issue I have specifically is that his argument comes across as being a non sequitur based on the information given, where he says sleep is a form of concentration, in which the hot matter draws in and the body cools down. He makes no concession towards common illness, such as fever, which would entail a visible warmness, even during rest. While I know this was not common knowledge, infants are also warmer. I do not know how much warmer, or if this would have actually been noticeable by touch, so I cannot hold that against Aristotle.

So many of his studies are easy enough to fault, but yet, there is no counterargument. At least no recorded counterargument. No concession is made either and this comes up repeatedly when discussing the natural world and human sensations. I am not going to pick on his studies on animals, as it is easy to do so with a modern lens.

I know this is more scientific then philosophical but the connection between science and philosphy is a core idea of Aristotle. You know, for someone who sought to figure out philosophy by observation of the natural world, he does leave very large gaps.

I could focus on his discourse on the elements too, but I feel that this is too much of a low hanging fruit to discuss, especially with the modern lens.

The truth is, as per my definition, what is righteous. I understand that righteousness alters from person to person, but righteousness, in the traditional sense, is concrete, in that what was righteous all came from one source: religion. I understand that we live in a world where religion is not universal, but religion all seemingly has a common root. For example, Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all known as Abrahamic faiths. More properly, I should say that Christianity and Islam take root in Judaism, so please excuse my somewhat incorrect conjecture. Similarly, the religions of Greece, Rome, Egypt, Canaan, Ugarit, Mesopotamia, India, etc. all have a common root in religion.

Without religion, there is no morality, even for those who have no personal faith. It must be argued that those of no personal faith still heed to a god, one of no name, no face, but a presence of sorts. In a sense, this could be a falsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>220167
>it [religion] is something very natural in existence
in our modern society (mostly western world) there's no reason to follow a religion anymore but people still do. Can religion be considered a natural state of the human being if religion can be acknowledge as false and there's no need to follow it anymore?
we oversteped religion through years

[–]  No.220170>>220187

>>220169
Yes and no. It is true the pure idea of religion is something that, as we see it, no longer relevant, but also, religion dictates morality even to this day. In other words, I do not mean religion is in the ideas of things such as Creationism and what actually happens within a religion's sacred text itself, but rather what lessons religion teaches. The most obvious example are the Ten Commandments. Just simply because we have overstepped religion does not mean that we have overstepped the fact that bearing false idols (for example, Charles Manson's Doomsday Cult) or that we murder or even consciously disrespect the elderly. We still follow religion in its case for morality, even if there are those who wish to strip parts of it away, for better or for worse.

I guess this is not the traditional definition of religion, but the name of this concept escapes me, so religion is what I refer to it as.

[–]  No.220187

>>220170
thank you, I guess people are still bound to religion so they still care about going to heaven so they follow the religion's morals



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[–]  No.220146[Reply][Watch Thread]

any other wizards have to deal with manic depression?
I was NEET for a few years, then went to university in 2020 (Eastern European and covid shit wasn't a big deal, also university isn't expensive, parents supported me)
I'm good with computers, particularly web shit (bought domain names and hosting), looking to become self-employed; missed out of crypto shit (bitcoin doubled in value along with NVIDIA stocks), but looking to buy a mining rig.
I started smoking, during elevated phases I could smoke a pack/day, but during low phases I don't touch it at all.
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[–]  No.220163

>>220147
>GTA 3
>Ancient game

Bro, I'm getting older

[–]  No.220164>>220172>>220243

Stay away from psychiatry, you will regret it. CBT helped me with anxiety and motivation problems, but you have to treat it like physical exercise and expect pain. Maybe it won't cure you, but it can make things better.

[–]  No.220172

>>220164
I went to a psychiatrist, he seemed very intelligent, prescribed me 4 meds, including an anti-psychotic, but low dosage, he said schizophrenics take up to 8mg daily and he prescribed me 1mg. I usually skip it, only take it on the onset of a manic episode.

[–]  No.220242

>>220159
WTF is this reddit-spaced nonsense normalfag post? can't you troll somewhere else?

[–]  No.220243

>>220164
>Stay away from psychiatry, you will regret it.
good advice



[–]  No.220111[Reply]>>220165[Watch Thread]

Every problem you post about is just a symptom of the genetic deterioration of the population.
Life is too easy, everyone becomes pure trash, everything they do is trash, and they multiply like rabbits with trash mates and the next generation is even trashier.
They have zero resistance to lies because their lives are based on lies.
They need an ecosystem of lies so they can keep up the illusion that their lives have value.
It's a spiral that cannot be corrected. Total societal collapse is inevitable.
Nothing will ever get better until the dysgenics are purged with unrestrained natural selection.
Chaos.

The solution to everything is to collapse society with violent sabotage.
It's going to collapse anyway.
If we collapse it before they are ready to replace us we win. Their hordes of slaves will all starve and they will die because there is nothing to leech off.

[–]  No.220112>>220113

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You're a glow in the dark CIA nigger monkey

[–]  No.220113

>>220112
+1
Accelawiggers are the dumbest people on the planet and all irradiated or connected to them.

[–]  No.220165

>>220111 (OP)
Dutton is that you?



[–]  No.219515[Reply][Watch Thread]

I usually think about wiz being well pressured by society. I mean, social relations like measurment of your quality as a DNA-container, normie-based entartainment and media, etc.
Moreover, in my country there are a lot of shit about duty and self-sacrifice. Fun fact, there is an option to be recruited and die as a virgin on a battlefield. 20-25 years ao there were a lot of such situations. Also, you need to work… I have good university- and self-education in IT and math, but todays job is based on normie tEaM bUildIng(a lot of such shit in our University) and I just dont want to think about the job perspectives.
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[–]  No.220008

>>220003
mordor I guess

[–]  No.220013

>>220003
Russia

[–]  No.220124

> its socially acceptable, financially incentivized even, to “waste” time enjoying the horrors of the trenches

You literally cant suffer anon.

[–]  No.220156>>220161

"Teambuilding" means "you're not a member of the elite so you won't get any money". Anyone who suggests otherwise is spreading propaganda.

[–]  No.220161

>>220156
Wtf a based wiz



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[–]  No.216933[Reply][Watch Thread]

I'm 22, I'm an asshole, and I've basically wasted my entire adolescence being a friendless loser who stays inside and online 14 hours a day. I also don't have any online friends, so I don't even talk to people during those 14 hours.

I've lived like this for so long that I don't even know how to start dating. I don't even know how to make friends. I have tried, but when I get closer I feel that they are somewhat annoying since they only tell their shit, or about things that they like regardless of what you have to say, so I end up giving up trying.

I don't want to waste my 20s the same way. I just want one friend, just one friend. I just want… any contact with someone outside my family, but at the same time I don't want it, and I prefer to lock myself in my thoughts, and although I can extinguish the feeling of loneliness with books, series, work, or learning new things, the reality is that it feels nice to share something with others, even if it is within an anonymous forum.
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[–]  No.219335

>>219329
Before myself.

>¬ Leave this site ffs

I've been here for 8 years

[–]  No.219443

>>216938
>>216944
It's very much real and many people learn of them having it only as adults. After this new knowledge, many past experiences will start to make sense

[–]  No.219446

>>219324
Well, "cold approaches" are pointless. Everyone sees through it, is inured to the game. The rules are different for us, and everything they do is about emphasizing hypocrisy and social distinction. So, if you're antisocial, you're with the majority of humanity at this point. Most people do their job, go home to whatever they have, expect little out of life. I've been told some people appreciate that I don't pretend and they don't have to "front" as much with me. The people who make this is an issue are people I want to push away, so of course I play up antisocial behavior. They really hate it when I smile and try to have a social life of any sort. I've never been bawled out worse than when I was pretending to try and meet people, thinking that I could do so now. You'd think they'd bawl me out over actually bad things, but they don't believe in that. They punished me more growing up when I was doing well, because "retards aren't supposed to learn". Despite everything I had some happy demeanor when I could, despite it being beaten out of me by all of the humiliations. I didn't show it often because it wasn't allowed, but others would sometimes say hello to me.
One rule I learned - the "right of transgression" extends to who is allowed to say hello. I'm not allowed to say hello. It's a demonstration of social rank in this society, not a pleasantry. The proper greeting for inferior caste, if that is allowed, is to wave/raise your hand if you see someone, and say nothing, or do so in response. It is expected - entrained, even - that you respond silently to greetings, rather than cheerly reply as an equal.

Basically, every one of these rituals is about emphasizing the exact opposite of the golden rule. You're actually supposed to treat others like shit, in accord with their caste, and follow an imagined chain of command. Some are harder asses about it than others, with most people not caring that much - but the rules are established and they do not allow too many transgressions. While I've never been explicitly pulled aside and told this, I was given warnings to that effect, and told explicitly it is best that I not speak unless spoken to or have a pretext worth their attention. Ideally they want lower caste to be obsequious, fearful. Think of what they want a black man to act like - utterly servile and fearful of white men, and espeically fearfulPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

[–]  No.219447

>>219324
As for "assburgers" that really doesn't matter the way it's made to be a thing. No one can conform to this society. It's designed to screen out anyone who isn't a Nazi like the people who started this shit, and promote little Einsatzgruppen when they enter the next stage… which is what they did in 2008 and again in 2020. Like I said, there is no defense against it. It started before many of you were born. I saw it in the final stages, and the 1990s were the worst when they were going hog wild to wreck the country.

[–]  No.220141

>>216940
>If people like you existed we would still use lobotomy
Not him, but wouldn't it be the exact opposite? The reason we destroy people's brains with drugs is that there aren't enough people like him.



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