/wiz/ - Wizardry

>>164105
Sexual or romantic experience is considered to involve a second party. Masturbation is just yourself. So no, it does not.

>>156534
>Yeah, there are all kinds of asexuals. Demisexuals, greysexuals, 2dsexuals
Feels like I'm in Tumblr.

>>167958
Almost as if this thread is a huge troll LARP. But that couldn't be, only wizards post here.

>>156735
>>156736
On the contrary, sex drive could also be related to estrogen levels in the brain.

I've killed my libido by crashing my estrogen as low as possible before. My testosterone was sky high, but whenever I took stuff that inhibited estrogen synthesis, my urges were very dampened. Probably not as much as being neutered, but it was pretty noticable.
I didn't even need to cut my balls off either.

My sex drive disappeared 2 years ago. Don't even get horny or masturbate, don't really care either, but life sure does suck when on top of video games and anime being boring you can't even jerk off to some shotacon. Life sucks indeed, black pill destroyed me.

>>167897
I think it totally depends on the country. In most of europe it seems like what you say is true, while in degenerate countries like australia you'll get 50 year old men asking any coworker if they 'got some pussy last night'

>>167905
Fair point. I've met Australian normies before and what you say seems to be true based on what I've heard from them.
I think what I said holds true for most of Europe and USA, and probably for sll 2nd/3rd world countries too. Can't say much for places.

>>167634
What is this nonsense? Go discuss your insecurity on the crab forums. this site is for those that stay away from failed normalfaggotry.

>>168136
I've been here longer than you I can guarantee that. Literally nobody IRL believes your LARP bullshit about "failed normalfaggotry" and if you called anyone IRL a "failed normalfag" they would laugh in your face or look at you like a fucking schizo freak.

Go Irony-LARP somewhere else.

>>167892
>being smug about being married
lmao normans are fucking insane

>>167952
Labor jobs don't give a shit about your background. They just want people who show up on time and actually work.
They are only intrested in your labor so they will generally hire anyone at least once. Though depending on the area and industry if you are a fuck up and make a really bad impression with a contractor they all tend to talk so you probably won't get hired anymore.
And when I say fuck up I mean REALLY fuck up. Like not showing up, showing up too high or drunk to work, trying to physically fight the boss, generally acting like a massive jackass, and most importantly not actually doing the damn work assigned to you and just standing/sitting there pissing away time while on the clock.
While you might be able to pull that kind of shit in a office job in a labor job they can tell from a glance when you are slacking off.

>>168057
That depends on how formal the hiring process is, because some places will only let people apply online and then it goes through an HR filter first. If it's not super formal they'll hire people known by the other workers first. For an employer, it makes sense to hire people who are desperate and won't screw up over some weirdo.

I haven't seen a lot of jobs where I could just go in and get hired.

If you're just talking day labor, then yeah it might be easier, but it's more physical. I fuck up basic things, so haven't tried that.

>>168057
Most the labor jobs seem to all be Mexicans with one white guy who talks to them and then talks to the clients.

>>168107
>>167952
Go to a temp agency, I was able to get a job with no interview at all at one of those.

Doubt I'll ever get out of it. Not capable for work anymore, too much competition.

>>167313

Manged to go wizard a year ago, still living the neet life in moms basment any advise how to end it all in a country where you can't just put a load of buckshot through your head? (too coward to jump be it height or train)

>>167376
Endure it like it you know you will

LARPing is wasted energy

I've been a NEET for a decade like you wizzie but never considered suicide though i probably should at this point.

>>167309
Suicide is not ascension. You should have your own idea of what ascension is but it shouldn't be fucking suicide.

>>168037
You're objectively wrong. Plenty of studies have shown that depression and anxiety negatively affects the brain. Extensive studies have also taken place even with animals showing that stress causes severely increased negative outcomes, including all sorts of negative physical changes

>>168011
And just because you screw up doesn't mean that everyone else is a loser who doesn't see any meaning in life. I don't know what you mean by dandy or great, I guess you refer to your definitions which would mean a painless life - what I say on the contrary is that life is suffering yet worth living if you have a good enough reason to keep going.
>The average wizchan user is already better off than most people that have existed.
You project your pain-phobia unto humanity. We probably have access to better living conditions but they aren't everything. If some native from a little oceanian island would have the opportunity to trade with a wizard who lives in a 1st world country it is quite possible he would refuse. Each individual is different, living comfortably and conveniently isn't enough or even necessary for everyone.
>The average life for most people
I think we can ignore "most people" since we are on a site which caters to outsiders. What separates little people from big individuals is their desperate attempt to avoid pain and to live a quiet, comfortable life. While, on the other hand, the superior individual doesn't care if he has to face danger or suffering, he does what he wants. We wizards are big individuals, at least we are on the way towards becoming superior. If we really wanted to avoid pain and suffering then we would try with all we can to become normals and to integrate into society. However, we choose to keep our individuality. Therefore we suffer more than your average man.
>Wars
You didn't just say people go to wars to avoid pain, right? Everyone who is reasonable enough can see the risk and dangers of war yet they do it anyway. The average guy because he unconsciously wants excitement, suffering even and wants to inflict pain unto others freely. And the rulers because of their motivations, yet even they have to consider that they are playing with their lives. And yet they do it. Again, if everyone wanted to be better off then they would continue their everyday life as usual in quiet and peace, war is something that has the possibility of destroying everyone and causing pain everywhere.
And about people suffering generally, they could avoid most of their pains easily yet there are times when they insist on suffering. SPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>168048
Where did I say no one saw meaning in life? Most people just see filial piety or God as their reason to go on. There's very few people that get anything out of living.

>You project your pain-phobia unto humanity. We probably have access to better living conditions but they aren't everything. If some native from a little oceanian island would have the opportunity to trade with a wizard who lives in a 1st world country it is quite possible he would refuse. Each individual is different, living comfortably and conveniently isn't enough or even necessary for everyone.

He might refuse because it's out of step with what he's been taught and see it as the product of evil spirits, not because he likes the fight for survival in the wilderness.



> think we can ignore "most people" since we are on a site which caters to outsiders. What separates little people from big individuals is their desperate attempt to avoid pain and to live a quiet, comfortable life. While, on the other hand, the superior individual doesn't care if he has to face danger or suffering, he does what he wants. We wizards are big individuals, at least we are on the way towards becoming superior. If we really wanted to avoid pain and suffering then we would try with all we can to become normals and to integrate into society. However, we choose to keep our individuality. Therefore we suffer more than your average man.

You can't all off the sudden jettison "most people" when you're saying a sizable group of people on the website who think life is meaningless are just screwups and life is good in general.

That's not the same as embracing suffering at all. Most of the recluses on here get away from normal people to avoid suffering. They don't want to assimilate since assimilating is more painful. It's a lot more stressful to put on a front of being normal than it is to be reclusive.

>wars

That's never how war has worked. It's not an individual choice. There are potential benefits to going to war and penalties for not fighting. Most people fought wars because they thought it was a mandate from a divinely empowered authority or they were getting paid.

The rulers had the object of getting ahead and protecting their rule. If they did nPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>168067
>I would imagine most of the people who were genuinely depressed as teenagers on here are still experience those feelings.
this is the final cope of the determinist, the "it wasnt real depression", sounds just like a fucking socialist. if anyone ever does realize the lie of mental health and realize they can change the way they think, they just didnt have real depression. this is where the discussion ends because depression becomes an opinion.

>>168101
its all in your head bro
just be positive bro

>>168034
Well, staying at home affects people who have negative home lives like if your parents are fighting constantly and you have siblings, it's just a shit show. The school for a lot of students presents the only stable environment.

But yeah wizard problems are usually more cognitive than environmental.

>>168058
>At higher levels of education, you're expected to learn mostly on your own.
Yeah, lectures are really not supposed to be for spoonfooding every bit of information, you're expected to have read the material on your own beforehand so that the lectures actually make sense (or not, but if you haven't done any work on your own how do you know what the reason is?).
My personal experience is that lectures are a waste of time and I would be better off just sitting at home and studying than making a trip to some stressful normhall.

>>168034
>>168062
wizfriend u can not see how good actually school effects you passively,for example ,you get to see succubi that you wouldn't be 1 meter close all your life,
you passively make friends,
you learn that your math teacher is hot and you go masturbate thinking about her,you learn many things in terms of communication in a classroom,collaboration,friendship,kinship all many stuff not only lesson.

you guyz too blind to see or understand what i mean by passive learning,that's why i used certified teacher to gain some credibility but prob won't work.Plus distance education requires self discipline that non of the nerds here have,if they had some they wouldn't be here whining about their bad life.

>>168062

the reason why at higher levels require you to get into the lessons less,and make u read more,more individual is that just the basic fact that university teachers are busy doing research and lessons.5h a day uni lessons would have been better for everyone.Just no country have funds to do such a thing.

>>168098
Is this a sarcastic post? please

I can tell you're the same asshole from before how you misuse spaces near commas. Disgusting

>distance education requires self discipline that non of the nerds here have,if they had some they wouldn't be here whining about their bad life.
This isn't dep. I am happy with my life and did very well at my studies despite studying entirely at home when I was meant to be in class

>>168098
Honestly I was in school I was so depressed and miserable that being around the succubi did nothing for me. I know most teens are massive horn dogs but I barely ever fapped until after I turned 18 and had some peace not being in school anymore. Then again I was pretty bad off took a razor into the shower every day before school trying to will my self into committing suicide.

I really hated how they insisted on making the day longer with elective trash like Gym,shop,art etc. Even the classes that were enjoyable it felt just like dicking around and a waste of time. Really pissed me off when we had a test and I finished and they wouldn't let me study something else. Just had to sit there like a cuck for 15 minutes doing nothing. Couldn't relax either not in that place dropping your guard is suicide even in the middle of a test.

>>167681
You the man, wiz of indeterminate ethnic origin

>>167709
Can you advise the best way to live a completely reclusive life?
I tried to get a cave-dwelling thread going to no avail
I do not wish to be homeless, only becuase my climate is shitty and cops would put me in the slammer here in england
What can i do?

>>166198

Well put. It actually seems sometimes that I, being alone, suffer less emotional distress than my counterparts in relationships. Though it wasnt always that way and i did have to learn to love myself more, but youre right, regular fuckers experience the same amount of stress as any wizard because this world is unfair, even if youre getting pussy xD

>>167694
>the great Elliot Roger
Here's a reply.

I am 32 and i want to murder all of the kidwizzies here for their imperfect posts

>>167874
Passive bystanders have good intentions too most of the time, they just lack strength and courage. Most people consider heroes like I mentioned as examples that should be followed.
I wouldn't say you need more effort to counter evil either. It's just that evil is easier to notice, good deeds happen in the background usually or we don't pay much attention to them unfortunately.

>>167878
By your line of thinking we shouldn't give welfare to people either because it only prevents the weak from dying.
Their starvation could be stopped easily but nobody wants to do anything, better to take to the dump all those left-overs than to give it to those who need it. The 1st world destroys crazy amounts of food.

>>167887
I don't know what you are referring to, I assume you are speaking about communist and socialist systems. Which again I'm not trying to make.
As for what I want, there are plenty of monasteries in the world and have been already. Or you can look at early christianity. It isn't impossible. A collective system led by ascetic people and promoting asceticism is the way. If people see that their leaders are living on bread and water only and don't accept money/gifts except the amount which is needed for basic things then that could inspire and influence them to a great degree.
About history not having examples of bigger systems which are like this: that doesn't mean we won't have one or that it is impossible. DaVinci was probably called a fool by most people for trying to create a tool that people would use for flying. Hundreds of years later airplanes happened. People evolve in many ways, not just scientifically. I would say the people of nowadays are more peaceful and sensible than let's say the generation that came before us in the 20th century. Even the philosopher Friedrick Nietzsche, who vehemently opposed collectivist ideals feared that soon the european people would be nothing more than herd that lives peacefully, he believed it was possible to achieve that state. And I think he was right but we don't have to fear it, we have to work towards that goal exactly.

>>167907
>I wouldn't say you need more effort to counter evil either. It's just that evil is easier to notice
Think of it like this. A man loses his wallet. someone finds it and considers what to do. The good option is to return it untouched. The evil would be to take it. these two different actions have opposite moral stances, but in one the man loses his money, ID, credit cards, etc. but in the other, the man simply gains what he already had. The evil option has more influence on the world. Another example would be burning down someone's house. A malicious act that takes only a single person and a few hours, and takes away so much, many things that one could consider irreplaceable. Then consider constructing a house for someone who's house has burned down. This job may take many men, and days to weeks of effort, and costs more in materials.

Even the people who are supposed to be dedicated to countering acts of evil such as police and politicians require more people to solve a case and dispense justice than the amount of people who performed it. And this is discounting the capacity of those people to perform evil themselves and those who must root out evil among the people who are supposed to root out evil.

Acts of malice are often easy to perform and more impactful than acts of good.

>>167887
There isn't really anything to compare to in earnest. Most similar countries that implement "free market" policies aren't really better.

With the specific famines, those were before the advent of mechanized agriculture. The peasants were happy when the land was redistributed to them. They weren't happy having to foot the bill for industrialization. Now individual farmers in the US are barely in business and it'll be mostly factory farms supplying things.

The industrial revolution took a hundred years for people to get non-shitty lifestyles but no one really described it as failing


The only countries that have really boomed in the post world war ii with market economies are ones that got a lot of external funding like Japan/South Korea/etc and they rely on big conglomerates rather than competition.

China, Vietnam, etc. specifically changed because they couldn't get foreign investment to do anything otherwise and didn't have the resources to modernize without foreign investment.

>>167907
>I don't know what you are referring to, I assume you are speaking about communist and socialist systems
i still cant tell if youre just trolling or youre some sort of shill thats trying to hide what you are. "authoritarian collectivism" is literally just a rewording of communism. can you give me one example of how your system differs from communism?
>And I think he was right but we don't have to fear it, we have to work towards that goal exactly
so you know we arent ready for the goal. im telling you if you try to jump into this utopian system it will devolve into a dystopia with totalitarianism, because people "arent ready". maybe in the future people will be ready, but if these perfect people are created then capitalism wont even have any problems and there will be no need to switch.
>About history not having examples of bigger systems which are like this
history does have examples of bigger systems which are like this, the soviet union, china, venezuela, cambodia, and they all failed. i think that you think your system is different because you say theres not going to be a big ruler, thats exactly how communism is supposed to go. thats why every communist state is referred to as not being true communism, because communism opposes tyrants yet only works when one is implemented.

Not sure what is problem here, but in case somebody wants it in a nutshell:

individualism | freedom
collectivism | anti freedom


I thought we agreed on this thousands years ago

Thinking computers were the closest thing to a conscious mind, I was surprised by this device. Here the act of consciousness of the machine is solely powered by external input. Of course computers are designed with a specific algorithm in mind and are not good with functioning when there are deviations to that algorithm (when autists become pissed). Probably the key to artificial consciousness is something that can deal with random, non-linear inputs. I suppose such things are responsible for the fickleness of human emotion, as neurons function only be awaiting for the activation potential to be triggered, which can happen from any local source of voltage unlike a specific source that is required in a typical transistor.

There can only be one past, therefore there can only be one future. There is only one possible future possible.

That was easy.

>>167912
>There can only be one past
This is an intuitive line of thinking, but is there any proof?

>>167912
Magnitude moves only in one direction, the loss of inertia. Free will is in potentiality, and has to be actualized. A seed is a tree in potentiality. Of course, as humans we inherit our genetic potential. We have free will to act within the limits of our genetics. Most people don't have free will though because they are somatics, only reacting to the various stimuli instead of actualizing their free will.

The future is not already determined if that is what you are trying to say.

>>167913
Magnetism which creates magnitude, the loss of intertia, common sense.

>>167912
if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it did it really make a sound?

>>167893
I am a second worlder. I don't know how it is in the proper third world, but I think "syrian refugees who get handouts in europe earn more than neurosurgeons here" mentality is a bit faulty due to costs of living. But I understand the struggle.

Moved to >>>/dep/219621.