/wiz/ - Wizardry

There's an mc bunker on wapchan that not enough wizzies post on but if the site dies I think a new one would spring up eventually. We have a dedicated userbase even if it's not as large as it used to be and the alternatives are all not that great. I think most of us would rather not have to rub shoulders with the shartyverse or move to tor if it can be avoided.

>>228323
>move to tor
is this one of those website you must know the URL if you want to access the website?

>>228323
Even dead Magic and Liz are anathema

>>228324
Yes, or you can find them via the various search engines and lists. There are a number of IBs on tor but most of them are more /g/ oriented.

>>228325
Is liz still around? I tried the old url but it doesn't work.

I think imageboards and forums will continue to pop up as long as there is demand for these kind of places.
If they keep trying to force this digital ID crap and delete all alternatives some company might actually see a hole in the market and launch an alternative, like DuckDuckGo for search engines. (I know DuckDuckGo is pozzed too, but still)
At the end of the day discussing stuff on the internet anonymously isn't illegal.

>>226320
Life is suffering. But saying that this is a prison planet supposes that there are places in this existence that are not prisons. But the very existence of a separate 'I' is a chain and ball 'you' have to drag. Being is prison more like it.

I am pretty sure it's a prison.
The fact that you almost cannot properly survive without neglect in the current system without obeying is enough fact.
It's all about chasing money in the end and we are all slaves to this concept, there is no escape if you are not willin to sacrifice yourself

It's just another pseudo-spiritual scam like simulation theory or astrology.
You don't need all this kind of stuff, if you comprehend there is some kind of immaterial ghost trapped inside of the bodies of animals and humans, things will make sense.
If you like thinking about this you better read Plato instead of wasting your time with this crap.
Socrates spoke about this soul of beings when he was about to die.

>>226320
>Prison Planet Theory
Gnostic ideas reworked, right?
like the old Marxist with some things they want to explain around material things without too much proof…
Sometimes i belive Matrix films and UFO things just gave more ideas to these schizos, but still sound fun and that's matter.

it's more like a farm than a prison

>>228309
i agree

>>228309
To which the Satanists respond
>But Satan ISN'T evil! G*d (the Torah tells them to not invoke the attention of God by muttering his name) is evil because he lets evil exist! Satan is the counter to this evil!

>>228310
okay

Why remain within the Abrahamic framework if this is your belief?

>>228311
>God is evil because he allows free will and personal agency
Satanism is the ultimate brainrot, if they really are arguing this

>>228332
I do disregard them but i joined an image board server and when you dont subscribe to their gynocentric shit fest they turn against you.

Moved to >>>/b/1035305.

>>227478
How many Pattons died during the Lorraine assaults vs. how many tens of thousands of anonymous Americans died?

Yeah, still a ratio of 0 to 55,000+. I rest my case

>>227084
you have to think of astrology as geometries that you cant break free from or go beyond them; if you do try, then not only reality but other people will go agent smith on you, and thats the reality of it - if you want the specifics then you can try learning the houses, the planets, their placements and its significances. in a way, life is very predetermined and the only safe thing we have is our own minds and experiences, but its true that astrology does rule such geometries and that your life will run on it physically; giving an example of such by outlining my own life, ive retrograde saturn and lilith in the third house in cancer - this is a very poor and afflicted conjunction, together they predict my stranged and distant sister (whos older than me) and my other distant and no contact cousins, aside that it turns my communication inward which has made me a shut-in and with low verbal ability specially face to face, so in-person; theres also overall delay to my lfies milestones, as in, im very behind my peers regarding everything, and as for lilith it made me abandon education early on when i was 14, and of course, ive a shitty home overall as in terrible family life; for rx saturn in third house in cancer is just a fall placement for it. im no astrologer so of course im limiting this example to that, and also cant give much readings outside my own chart which is the only ive familiarized and read more about it which is how i realized it eerily fits. i can recommend books though, such as on the heavenly spheres by helena avelar and 'hellenistic astrology' by chris brennan - you can also, if you want to skip and go straight into learning about the houses and such, datamine yourself by searching your own specific placements on tumblr.

>>227041
>Fringe Esoteric thread?
Did anyone start playing with tarot cards?
I like the design of Rider-White-Smith and the more traditional Marsella.
It's interesting when they use themed tarot cards and decorate them, even though they are more expensive than traditional ones. Oracles are more random, but they are not tarot cards.
>Also
It is interesting to see that there is a lot of symbolism added by esoteric groups, the Golden Dawn itself, or Etelia and French groups, although Crowley also added his own ideas.
Spanish cards are another matter. There are different schools—French, English, Spanish, and the list goes on—on how to interpret them.
Superstitious and all that, but interesting if you like reading about history or collecting decks. the design of Tarot boxes are beatiful and the art of tarot crafters in same way, marvelous.

>>227480
>I've never figured out how exactly people activate them, do we just meditate with it in front of us?
well, i dont know, maybe, bacause im still trying these things.

Crowley did a method of watching the symbol for 30 sec or into Dharana-Gnosis (or any way attached to altered state of mind in modern scientific terms) and later destroying it (by any method like fire etc) or dance or extasy, euphoria and peak experience like spare and other did etc.
others charge it by ritual or psychodrama (like charging with let call it energy belief or warm feeling with your hands or smoke candle or evocations or wathever ritualized thing like a LRP-LIRP or calling gods or wathever poetic or occult force you want to believe or call)
others put in their shoes or in a bag in clothes or in other body places or tools you use, others hidden it somewhere bacause they belief if a lot of people see it but not see it its start to charge, like a plant pot or in water into desintegration or etc.
other charge it with sunlight or moonlight.
other charge it and make it work by its like a talisman wearing it or hidden it somewhere.
others try to get a peak experience like orgasm or a excsitatory method of body and later burn it bacause believe in some way of Spare-Chaoist belief of psychological way of the mind.
others just visualize it in mind and destroy mind and in a psychall way, or have it in a form of art paint and charge it by seing but not seing time to time in a wall in the background o something like that.
some people use LOA or manifestation theories into this. new thought ideas are kinda similar into the path of hypnosis and belief like this if you like to see like this.
other use hypnosis beliefs like magnetic hands or chinese Chi beliefs to charge and etc, kinda the same.
>Also
The OG practice come from the golden dawn but they used for other things and not for wishes or manifestation or these things, they're more into invocation of things.
you can even draw random draws while you try to not make sense or reduce pure art to brutalist abstract schizo nonsense art and still make a sigil like a fractal of another fractal.
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wtf is this bullshit

>>227881
I'm not sure what you mean.

>>227827
i cant think about the god´s idea

>>227827
>What are your thoughts and views on God, if any?
Not very favorable in general due to how the world operates.
I still "pray" to God every now and then, mostly out of desperation, but my prayers are like that you'd have towards a wish fulfilling entity.
I could never quite understand Christian prayer, even as a kid.
It felt like you were talking to a tyrant acting like a good little serf so you can avoid wrath and get some scraps.
"Thy kingdom come and thy will be done." or something, not sure how it actually translates to the English variant.
I talked back to the priest holding bible class often enough to get banned.
(Mostly because I also attended a random Catholic bible study for a while in parallel, nobody checked if I belonged and I was too stupid to know the difference so I just went along with the other priest too lol.)
Never got confirmed either.

Generally speaking I prefer religions where there aren't any claims that are obviously false, tied to real mundane history etc.
So something like taoism I guess.
The more philosophical or fantastical and less human/mundane the better.

To some people Jesus being "some dude" while also somehow God s a point of connection, but to me it's a huge disconnect.
Why should I, person born 30 years ago be subject to tribal nonsense from a far-gone era of some carpenter that was then used as form of control, embraced by politicians at the time for such purposes.
Very weird to me.

Not to sound all fedora atheist here, I know it was in vogue back in the days online. I just dislike how so much of Christianity has been demystified and a lot of stuff has been traced back historically.
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I feel closer to gnosticism in the way the belief of god is almost an intrinsic fact that the old testament god is the representation of the evils of man, and the new testmanet god christ is the true image of what man should be, seeing that he came down. This is also something coming from someone who has only read some of Genesis and the passage of Exodus and the other prophets as a kid, but God seems not to be a god reacting to man's actions, but synchronization of man's nature, rather than a sole separate reaction to it. But then again, people think that God would act according to our beliefs and moral standards, which most would agree he doesn't, at least the traditional Christian beliefs. God, at least in the Christian terms, seems to be the only rational reaction, at least Christ's presence, at least only something that was interacting with humans would put himself as a peasant, like a carpenter, instead of the accolades other gods have, even if he developed a following and so on during his time here. But on the other hand, the Old Testament God seems so archaic or alien and complicated, a humanless voice commanding the prophets to act in his will as servants or slaves, even if it's out of love, at least the translations seem to present the language as such compared to Christ. I have no choice but to be here and to think that god would follow my individual request, or morals seem insane, maybe that's why it's hard to pray, for the world and He act in synchronized suffering or beauty without my interaction. Being an unheard peasant of spirit and body, or being a peasant picking himself to try even with no promised reward, inscribed in human material value, feels like the only two choices. All we can do is find out and see if we guessed right when it comes to more trivial or debatable values we have. I'm retarded anyway, so who knows

I got temporarily interested in Orthodox Christianity (Since a couple of years I have returning periods of interest in Christianity because it seems to be quite in line with my endless feeling of guilt/anxiety/longing and my moral disgust with the state of the world) but I couldn't handle endless sense of me not being capable of living up to God's expectations and the fact that other people, after all, seem to have to go to hell. I ended up thinking that God either will save everyone which makes serving him appear sort of pointless or that he will indeed curse vast majority of us, which made me feel hopeless about myself and about his "grace". This went along with having to reroute my entire life to basically killing myself in hope of seeing some higher world that can not be proved through anything now except by some sense of gut feeling that requires huge amount of coping to accept. I don't know how so many Orthodox can just go to the Church on Sundays or do some little Christian practice and sleep peacefully thinking of hell. It didn't help either that the tradition that the Orthodox like so much seems to be self contradictory at times (It denies universal salvation but has some saints who considered it, it says that you can't get saved without baptism and yet has histories of saints resurrecting people like Roman Emperors just to give them a quick baptism because they did one good deed after killing lots of Christians), it just feels like a cope.

>>219201
>Unfortunately there's no solution to this.
I disagree.

>>225351
I have the right to kick a dog when he bites, will I be able to kick your face when you fail to behave humanely?

>>228026
>I've never met someone who had anything against friendless virgins.
I would not entrust a known friendless virgin with any responsibility at work and I am a friendless virgin (a wizard, even) myself. Society absolutely looks down on us, and it is for good reason. It is a very strong indication of failure, of inadequacy, of some sort of mental dysfunction. Moreover, you KNOW that this will be used against you, so any competent person will take care to hide or at least not advertise this. Anyone who is publicly found out as such is therefore doubly incompetent for failing to keep this failing of theirs out of the spotlight.

>>219200
Once you realize that they are correct, and accept it, perhaps even indulge in it. You will realize the profound, and paramount hatred that normies spew from their draconic mouths, and feel free from it.

>>228279
The truth is NTs collectively hate outcasts more than you as an individual could be hope to be racist/bigoted/etc. as an individual

Do you swim in the Atlantic ocean? Are their squids?

>>228282
Technically the celtic sea? (I think), there are squids, but I haven't seen one

Moved to >>>/b/1035002.

Moved to >>>/games/63484.

>>223093
to be said with the 4 noble truths perhaps?

>succubus in the op pic
Wizchan 2026

>>223091
"Psychology" and "psychologists" will never help you. They will only hurt you. Why do you think they're "the rapists"? Because of what they do to your mind. Don't be dumb

Find the root problem.
The people themselves are probably not the problem, judgement might be the cause. Try to discover what the root cause is. For me it is the fear of others exploiting mistakes i make.

I found the root cause by writing down my thoughts. It helped me focus on my thoughts and easier process, and get back to them later. I write about everyday experiences, annoyances, things that make me happy etc. Almost everything significant is written into a Joplin document with timestamps on my phone.

After writing down what makes me uncomfortable or happy i look for ways to enjoy the joys without the fears crashing down on me. I like sharing my thoughts but fear the judgement I may face if i express myself too carelessly. That is why i am now trying to socialize online, games specifically, because there i can share my thoughts but not have to worry about judgement (since i mostly interact with randos). Enjoying what makes me happy through alternative methods i can avoid triggering my fears and through it i also program my brain to stop associating what i like (socializing) with what i fear (judgement). The root problem for me was not RECIEVING judgement, i handle it quite well, but the POTENTIAL for judgement therefore i do not even have to avoid judgement, i just have to stop fearing judgement or disassociate judgement from what i want to do.

You could try to follow the same methodology. I can not yet say that i have overcome my anxiety but i no longer fear the idea of talking to others like i used to. I still worry about judgement i may face but i don't directly pair that with people and socializing. Writing was a huge help for me. I probably have some mental disorder, my thoughts always feel like short bursts that will always disappear before i can pick up the important bits. Writing them down lets me catch the important things and focus on them.

It was not a quick process but I've changed so much and learned so much about myself after i started writing 6 months ago.
You'll get there and don't avoid the things you love.

>>228175
newgens smdfh