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You guys are all in favour of antinatalism, right? I mean, do any of you actually find it offensive or counterfactual?
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I am in favour of it but its not like I want to be, I wish I did live in a world and existence that was a positive one but I can't be blind either.


Here is why I hate rightards


nope, i fully support it


Eh even then you will evolve from evolution again.
Most antinatalists are losers who want something to feel good for once in their life and this idea is the fittest as it takes literally zero effort at the same time validates their suffering as normalcy. A poet they quoted says something like shut the mind as to not think, shut the eyes as to not see the sun; shows how bias toward the negative they are, show them happiness and they will screech as if their eyes were burnt by the sun.


Can you explain this more? You make it sounds as if AN want their suffering when it is in fact the most despicable thing to them that they want to ride the world of.


He's referring to how depcrabs like antinatalists refer to happy people as "delusional" or "coping". If they really wanted happiness they'd try and pursue happiness, not just wallow and whine.

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I have this huge resistance to anything that takes any effort, like school or exercise. I've been a NEET for 4 years now and I just can't make myself do anything meaningful or effortful. I see all these normies getting a degree and being active and just putting in lots of effort in everything and I don't understand how they can do it. My day consists of laying in bed or playing video games or binging on junk food and that's it, I literally can't do anything. I don't really know how to fix this, I've told my therapist and they said basic stuff like "start small", and the thing is I can't even do small things. For example I tried to learn programming 2 years and I did it for like 10 min, then I took a break and never touched it again. It wasn't even hard it was just beginner stuff like printing Hello World. I really don't know what to do anymore, I want to change, I really do, but I just can't. I never even graduated high school because I couldn't make myself do the work.

The strange thing is, it's not that I don't want to do the work, it's that I can't make myself do the work. I'll spend hours just staring at the assignment, begging myself to do it, but I just can't. It's like the part that connects my intentions to my physical actions is severed.
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I'm talking about specific actions, not a life goal of "making things work out", whatever that means.

If you're upset because you are, say, obese. You can't just ignore your own decisions that led to that such as, say, your decision to eat a lot of junk food, and claim that your parents are responsible for that. Because if your parents are responsible for the effects of the actions that you chose to perform just because they created you and are therefore apparently responsible for everything you do, well they can just use the same excuse. THEY wouldn't have had sex and gave birth to you if THEIR parents had just used protection. Therefore they get to escape all personal responsibility just like you.


You are trying to run a rally without a car and without fuel. First find the car, find the fuel… forget the rally, for when the time comes, it goes naturally.

You won't be needed of extra effort to achieve whatever your warpless mind may motivate you into, but it is involuntary. You are warped meanwhile



Keep a timed vibrator in your rectum that goes off at exactly the time when your sleep cycle gets disturbed


I have realized that when I remove the internet from the equation, I get more done. Not much, but I accomplish more than nothing. At the same time, I am at a disadvantage when it comes to learning about things, be it language learning, programming, etc. without the aid of the internet. I am always afraid that I will miss some crucial bit of information relying solely on books and yet I realize that people got by without the internet for millennia. Having to pay for books and wait for them to arrive in the mail is not fun either since I have grown to dislike engaging in piracy. An addiction to free, instantaneous information and gratification is amongst the worst addictions a person can have.

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Parents are trying to arrange a marriage for me because they want grand children and their genes to be passed on for generations. Any wizards with experience rejecting arranged marriages? How do I do it without upsetting my parents? I've told them I'm asexual but my mom has caught me fapping to anime tiddies before so I don't think it will work….. I don't want to be tied down by a three dimensional pig. They think that if I get a girlfriend I'll start wageslaving and paying for rent…. Any advice? I want to continue to be a lazy NEET without doing any normal productive things like settling in with a wife and a job, I find it restrictive and I won't be able to buy anime figurines if I have to support a succubus with my wage slave paychecks. I saw a few pictures of her and she's ugly as fuck.
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If I were you I would get a job and then move away from your parents house. Wageslaving is not fun but getting married to a land whale sounds horrible. Get out of that situation as soon as you can, wiz.


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I don't believe OP.
Besides, on the slim chance he is legit he can just say no and deal with it like a adult.


I'm from Colombia, arranged marriages don't exist in Latin America, excepting maybe some indigenous tribes


Yeah, it sounds like trolling, "anime figurines" my ass.


My faith in 2d is being tested.


>we are so special and precious even if our sonny is unable to organise himself in this dog eat dog world so let us find him a mail order bride so we can ensure that our super special genes are given to the next generation

it is beyond my comprehension what normies have with procreating and continuing their blood lines even when they are obviously not special in any kind. like it is an accomplishment to produce children that will only suffer their entire lives

govt should be the only ones allowed to decide what humans we need to be produced and how many of them and with what characteristics

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Im having doubts regarding the existence of an afterlife,id like some help and insight.
Im reading medical,phsyics,science books,cosmology books.I used to go to mass but now im thinking "mass isnt scientific- Where's the science for the liturgy?"
maybe its a devilish thought but i cant help it.Im becoming a materialist.
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The mysterious thing isnt that brains can be intelligent or be self aware or something, the mysterious thing is that YOU (and by extension I) are experiencing consiousness. By any sense of materialist logic, we would just be robotic automotons made out of atoms. Prossessing input from our senses with various stored information from previous sensory info in order to output various movements to our muscles. There is nothing in materialism that can suggest that our own experience of being human can ever be anything other than accurately simulated using ordinary atoms. To put it simply there appears to be more to being a human than the sum of its atomized parts.

If we were to say, completely accurately simulate your mind including all of your sensory information there would be no reason to suppose that this simulated person is experiencing consiousness in such a way as to actually make them human would it? After all, this simulated person isnt even atoms but merely simulated atoms. Yet if you asked this simulated person if they were self aware they would answer precisely the same way the real person does.


say simulated one more time, i dare ya!




It's not a mysterious invisible thing,of course concioussness comes from nature (AKA the brain) the thing is that we don't fucking know how it works (or what it is) there's like 70 thories of what "concioussness" is, of course most of them contradict each other,so really we don't have a fucking clue.

And yet people is so excited about Artificial Intelligence and so on,we don't even know how intelligence and concioussness work in humans and we're excited because some phone can make simple music or identify the Taj-Mahal….fuck.


when it comes to the afterlife, I am conflicted
on one side I don't believe in fairy tales

on the other side, is it not the scientists who say energy can never be lost, only transformed into another form. If life is electric energy pulsating in your brain and body, then what does this electric energy get transformed into when you die?

Even if there is an afterlife, what are we supposed to do there? Just sit in the clouds, drink RC cola and talk about nostalgic times on earth?

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Is anyone else totally crippled by social phobia both offline and online? I can't even enjoy vidya or the internet completely because of my social phobia.

>avoid leaving my house as much as possible

>only speak when spoken to
>have used the internet since the early 2000s but never made a youtube account, newgrounds account, deviantart, or any other account on a forum to talk with people
>play online multiplayer games since Halo 2 but never used voice chat or made friends because of anxiety
>25 now and have no social skills, no resume, no idea how to drive or get a job

I didn't even live my life online. I feel like I never even existed. Just silently watching the world go by.
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It's easier to plot your whole argument, when feeling about it… then pasting it suddenly, and let them scorch.



Which rice farmer? Do you know how hard farming rice is? It takes a family to do it, which is unironically why people had children in the first place


4chan used to be my home but I hate how for the past….fuck, decade maybe, everything is now mixed up in several layers of irony, jadedness and sarcasm that nobody takes themselves or others seriously any more. Shitposting is out of control. It's so rare to find a genuine discussion with another human being on a topic you're both interested in where the only thing to judge is each others word. No aggression, no toxicity, no attention-whoring and no cancer. Everyone is so aggressive now and it's not just 4chan that is at fault but the internet as a whole. I partly blame politics and extremism thanks to the flood of normies that have taken over towards the end of the 00's and the centralisation of the internet, removing little communities and absorbing them into amorphous blobs like reddit. It's just made it harder than ever to engage with people even while anonymous due to the aforementioned issues on sites like 4chan. Even wizchan has this issue. Everyone feels the need to be an asshole. I'm tired of it.


for me it is not fear
I am just tired of competition
I hated competition and competitive things since forever

be it soccer, pokemon battles or board games. I was always more the collector type of person

When I for example hide on a sunny day, I avoid the swarms of daypeople that mingle outside. The people with which I have to compete for everyting. Be it for food on a busy mcdonalds or for groceries waiting in the supermarket. By avoiding the crowds I simple have the entire store or burger joint for myself and I can choose on which table I can sit down and I can occupy 4 places for myself because there is nobody there

I really hate competition

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so what do you do all day? are you like me? i get up in the morning and get on the computer until sun down. i have been doing this for more than a decade. i spent my entire 20s on the internet
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An me too, i can't wait until we can have a comfy WizPub and have embedded digital taste buds so i can drink a virtual mead with my brothers :)


So what are your predictions for where technology will be by 2025?
We have already had new VR for around 5 years and not much has been mainstreamed so far




I prefer Cioran

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wizard marine ama. any other milibros or marinebros on here? military general? would love to hear from any non american wizards time in the armed forces?
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>volunteering for all work parties and courses.

Do not post about voluntary real life social activities (e.g. going to a bar or party).


>male stripper wizard
Unironically an attractive autist could do this and still be a wizard. Obviously not the most fitting job, but you work to eat, not to enjoy it.


What mannerisms would an autistic male stripper have?
Just curious


Theres a thing such as too sexy for wizchan, you know?


I'm 33 yo and I'm considering join the French Foreign Legion. I have nothing to lose since I'm just someone from a disgusting third world country that is impossible have a decent life. I wonder if we have any wizard that signed a contract.

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I recently become convinced i'll live to be very old,like 80+ and im scared or starled about it.
loneliness,possible damage to vital functions,the surely dystopian future,etc.

how can I prepare?how can I stop my body from degenerating?I started a series of anti-aging measures such as cold therapy and caloric restriction. Im 25 now,still live with parents.So i guess i will live half my life alone.
Im also considering taking the vow of brahmacharya, 12 years. If it works as planned i would have some decades to enjoy the glory brought by brahmacharya.
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If you’re gonna die anyway why hasten the process? Fear of death is a poor reason to end oneself.


Didn't mention suicide. I was thinking more of the spirit of Peter Wessel Zapffe's Last Messiah: life blowing itself up after as a result of overdeveloped consciousness. He lists some reasons why humanity hasn't gone nuts, but it's still hard to believe we all have sort of collectively taken it on the chin up to this point.



Welcome to wiz chan everything repeats here and i have no problem with that


>how can I stop my body from degenerating?
You need to look into anti-ageing peptides like pinealon or GHK-cu.

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Anyones else afraid of naturalistic/secular immortality?
There are many views of phsyics/cosmology where personal identity survives or the person survives without his memories. Bolztmman brains,many-worlds immortality, poincare recurrence.
This isnt religious at all but its scientifically possible our ride literally has no brakes
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already watching my mom go through this.


I just keep it simple. Space is huge or infinite, expanding, and one day will be in a state of thermodynamic equilibrium, or as close as you can get.
This is it.


Regarding >>170398's comment on music of what people think you would hear after you die, and along the topic of dementia, I recommend this album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJWksPWDKOc

its 6 hours long yes but its supposed to represent the slow decline of the human brain as it gives in to the entropy caused by old age, basically a simulation of dementia and brain rot


this is mutually exclusive to philosophical concerns of say, eternal recurrence or open individualism. in the latter, there is one consciousness split among many observers, in gradations of complexity according to physical limitations of the brain. the intuition is frequently experienced on psychedelic drugs or in other transcendent states. also can co-exist with eternal recurrence/anthropic principle: since, after you die, you are nothing and cannot experience time, there is an immediate looping around to when you are born again, same time, same place. now give many worlds a spin in this and imagine "you" are consigned to experience every possible life forever, including ones in which you are a snuffed out as a zygote as well as those in which you are the sole 10^-googolplex mortal to live for millennia.


meant to say *NOT mutually exclusive, sorry. as in we could die by slow decay and still be concerned at the persistence and mystery of consciousness

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You know the drill

You set out lots of plans, a reading list and goals for the month

Yet somehow, the lack of external pressure or accountability means that you end up doing nothing but looking at degenerate erotica and hating yourself

Has anyone successfully broken this cycle?

I know there are things that can help this such as:
> Accountability groups
> Going ((outside))
> Broadvice, health diet therapy etc..

Yet the issue is that i am not going to do any of that shit, i didn't ten years ago and i'm not going got start now

The best thing i can think of is creating my own fantasy world where, through the power of imagination, i change my self perception and create a world in which i am a wizard with wizard duties such as scholarly learning, collecting firewood and such things and live my life through a fantasy.

But again, the issue comes from being alone without external drivers, but maybe this can be overcome by more extreme forms of isolation and delusion.
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This was a good thread, particularly because of the perception poster. I would like to ask what a typical overcoming procrastination / anxiety situation looks like for you. Like how do you go about doing it specifically? What steps do you generally take?


Did he imply that succubi were wrong for not choosing him?


"The ultimate evil behind sexuality is the human female. They are the main instigators of sex. They control which men get it and which men don’t. succubi are flawed creatures, and my mistreatment at their hands has made me realize this sad truth. There is something very twisted and wrong with the way their brains are wired. They think like beasts, and in truth, they are beasts. succubi are incapable of having morals or thinking rationally. They are completely controlled by their depraved emotions and vile
sexual impulses. Because of this, the men who do get to experience the pleasures of sex and the
privilege of breeding are the men who succubi are sexually attracted to… the stupid, degenerate,
obnoxious men. I have observed this all my life. The most beautiful of succubi choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself.
succubi should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If succubi continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. succubi have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.
succubi are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. succubi are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such."


Also interesting:
"The first strike against succubi will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single succubus on earth to starve to death. I would have an enormous tower built just for myself, where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die. If I can’t
have them, no one will, I’d imagine thinking to myself as I oversee this. succubi represent everything that is unfair with this world, and in order to make the world a fair place, they must all be eradicated.
A few succubi would be spared, however, for the sake of reproduction. These succubi would be kept and bred in secret labs. There, they will be artificially inseminated with sperm samples in order to produce offspring. Their depraved nature will slowly be bred out of them in time.
Future generations of men would be oblivious to these remaining succubi’s existence, and that is for the best. If a man grows up without knowing of the existence of succubi, there will be no desire for sex.
Sexuality will completely cease to exist. Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts in the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.


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Do you mean me specifically?
The only way i have been able to overcome procrastibation and anxiety in my life it when i was thrown into a completely new environment, like when i enrolled in college, or did a work abroad program. Eventually my mental demons came back and made me start to move back into my shell and also the people i met would always cause me disharmony in my soul, so now i know, whatever activities i am to do, they must categorically not include other human beings in them. This way i may be able to 'warp' my mind towards a positive feedback loop that is normally broken by, well, normals.
It's not step taking at all, it's a jump in the deep cold part of the ocean, and that's the only thing that had ever helped me. But plus, it's also the step between non-action and action, between 0 and 1 and that's why the first step always feels so massive.
About the perceptionwiz, yes, he did help a lot with understanding, but i'm still not there and cannot get my head around what he was asking. I don't know how long it's been since i posted this, but the point remains that i am still more entertained with imageboards and reading wikipedia than bettering myself. Again, i can clearly see that i will regret this lifestyle in 10 more years, but that is not enough to motivate me to change. The carrot and the stick mentality does not work on me.
So to summarise, my method going forward is a blend of extreme isolation and and breaking old habits by way of environmental changes, but again, i find myself returning to stasis over time, but that is as best as i know how right now.

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