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 No.221020[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Do you think psychotherapy can help NEETs to become something better? It's such a common advice out there: go to therapy, it's the best you can do to help yourself, it's your responsibility etc etc. What's your experience with therapy? Do you think it genuinely might help?
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 No.227588

So… download a modern LLaMa on your computer to chat with


and a funny A.l.i.c.e.-1966 chatbot to feel the 60 years of difference

 No.227589

>>221760
This is some industrial grade anti-intellectualism.

 No.227590

Personally it helped me a lot. I didn't divulge things that I decided to keep confidential and got help from most of my other troubles I could talk about with a licensed professional. Your mileage will vary from therapist to therapist, but most of them will be able to help you in some way. I should stress that therapy will not help you if you do not have a desire to change and discipline to follow through, otherwise it's just a waste of time. I know some of my friends who have been on therapy for many years and I belive that's just complete bullshit and you are wasting your or someone else's money to vent to a therapist. LLMs also give you bullshit advice, validate your delusions that put you in a bad spot in the first place and they record everything you send to them. Don't divulge your deepest secrets to a bunch of evil companies.

My personal advice to anyone on imageboards seeking advice is to consult a person in person that is already doing well in life and willing to lend some help. I cannot understate how many years I have lost listening to bullshit advice I have read on imageboards, and I highly recommend that - if you have a genuine desire to change - you chart your own fate with your best judgment and a discipline and follow the advice of competent people around you.

 No.227591

I don't understand how therapy can help unless you are lonely and need some sense of security that is brought by talking to a trusted person.
Anyway, all people that shill therapy never explain what they were treating and what the therapist did to help them.
It's like that >>227590 anon described: uh, well, therapy helps, but you need to put in le work and shiiiet…
Okay, if it works, why nobody gives me concrete examples.
I want:
>Their diagnosis
>The symptoms they were treating
>What exactly the therapist did
>How it helped in concrete ways
>How their quality of life improved after therapy
But you never hear that.

 No.227592

>>227591
Do you really think you are entitled to my medical information? That's wild.


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 No.220551[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Being skinnyfat is /wiz/ manifest on your body. It's through no fault of your own that it happens: you didn't overeat, nor were you particularly lazy. Rather, being socially and mentally deficient forced you inside, where you moved less and less vigorously than the average normalfaggot child would.

The normalfaggot child, through no skill, hard work, or determination of their own, built a genetically normal amount of muscle over a long period of time just by being outside and moving with their other normalfaggot friends. They ate more than you, they enjoyed the fruits of life more than you, and they worked so much less harder than you— and they were rewarded for it with physical desirability.

The normalfaggot, then grown up, grows arrogant, and thinks themselves special, even though they put no effort into the good things that life and their sociability gave them. With this attitude set, they spit venom at the lazy, ugly, disgusting skinnyfat people.

Fuck this condition.
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 No.227561

Checking in: Down 5 lbs since Christmas. I switched to calorie deficit, aiming for 1900 calories per day. Also I've been lifting a bit and it's helping too. Thanks anons! I have many failures but the good days are enough for results in the end.

My father is having heart disease issues and he isn't that old… lit the fire for me. I gotta get healthy.

Healthy breakfast (small), big lunch, minimal snack after, no dinner, and 12 to 16 hour fasting clocks me in at sub-2,000 calories. I was running at least 3,500 calories before I started this and it was showing.

 No.227567

>>227561
>snacks
you're making this unnecessarily difficult for yourself. stop snacking and you will stop craving snacks pretty quickly, it's an addiction

 No.227576


OK, lemme tell something. Ive lost a beltful of fat throughout last 4½ years.

I am not going to say the kilos, but I tell you: the belt that felt tight back in 2021 is now a bit too loose for me to use it without punching a new hole in it!

 No.227583

>>227576
Solid work! Good problem to have.

>>227567
Fair point. Sugar and additives are there to sell product. They gotta go.

 No.227587

>>227583
>>227567

Oh, yeah, the sugar. The snacks.
All the sugar I tend to eat gives me acne. So I don't carry sweets-sweets around anymore. No harm to drink some sweetened green tea, I thought, so I got me some.


I also think my coffee also gives me some acne too…

regards,
>>227576


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 No.227025[Reply]

Does anyone here know any good virgin-only forums? Or a forum with a significant virgin population? Or maybe a forum that discusses widespread societal depravity in a very negative light?

I'm guessing the answer will be 'no'. Don't you think that's strange? I never believed just because something is common, that it's 'natural' or 'acceptable.' Child rape was common, it was practiced for most of human history, that's not acceptable. Yet betrayal, prostitution and temporary 'relationships' (same thing as prostitution) are? We are always at the recieving end of mockery, and them always rewarded with praise. Why? What did we do to deserve being mocked and belittled?

Does anyone else here feel this way? Or am I the only one? How do I reach likeminded people? How do I communicate with people who share my values? Where do I find them?

These days I just feel like we're being erased, or rather… we have always been erased. Am I a crab for taking these things seriously and refusing to submit to the same depravity as others?
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 No.227383

>Does anyone here know any good virgin-only forums? Or a forum with a significant virgin population? Or maybe a forum that discusses widespread societal depravity in a very negative light?


Perplexity AI is very friendly, doeesn't label you

 No.227565

OP here. I'm glad I have so many people conversing in my thread, I think this is the first time I got so much engagement at something lol

 No.227571

I believe the slow but unstoppable force of decay we are seeing in the western society is the result of lack of pressure, leading to generation after generation of people who are less and less conscious. In my daily conduct, I always have a choice between "lower" and "higher" options. If I wish to elevate myself above a level of a mere animal, necessarily I would have to be of a habit of choosing the higher ones, and it is not exactly easy. But at least I try, even if my lower animal nature gets the better of me often. People nowadays do not care nor understand and are content existing in a state not much evolved from the time they were children. The best life for them, at least from what is apparent from their behavior, is that of a pig for slaughter, well taken care of, at least until their caretaker decides its their time. They prioritize comfort above all else and unfortunately nowadays they can get away with that, this would not be possible a hundred years ago. More than any time in history, life of pure decadence, of behaving according to the lowest instinct for instant satisfaction, is accessible to the masses. Our leaders, no less oblivious to this than the ones they serve, see all the unfortunate consequences of this, and instead of realizing the magnitude of their fuckup, they patch things up as best they can, shielding the animals from the consequences of their actions.

 No.227574

My life feels so empty. I'm thinking of posting more on wizchan, since I largely have very little to do… apart from writing and drawing which I can't do all the time due to burnout risk. I remember when my life wasn't empty. It was an illusion. I would fill it with anime, which I can't bring myself to watch anymore because of how utterly predictable the medium has become. Bright flashy colors, clunky animation, too much for my old autistic brain to handle now. What can I do to fill it with something tangible? I fill it with eating these days but that's very dangerous, so I'm gonna quit it.

Music? Gym? More drawing? Going outside? Fuck. I hate it. I hate this. I want some sense of adventure, some sense of mental and emotional satisfaction. I wanna be a pirate sailing the high seas, or a chicago gangster in the 1920s running rackets. I wanna fill my day with thrilling activity, not this… misery. I got a small glimpse of the old internet, my god I miss it, I miss days that I didnt even experience. I'm so dead inside that I can't even goon anymore, my hormones are fine I just don't have any care left in me.

>>227571
>shielding the animals from the consequences of their actions.
This is so true and it makes me so angry. To a normie of any generation, committing evil and causing emotional suffering is funny and pitiful, but if the victim punishes the evildoer by rightfully killing them, that is the worst evil the victim could possibly commit. They feel called out and personally threatened by that, because they know they have done the same things and caused the same amount of suffering against someone and they maliciously, sadistically desire to do the same evils, so they hate it when they are rightfully punished. Robbing from good to give evil fake victimhood validation, all to antagonize the good men they have harmed more violently. It is so sickening to see, and if I ever make anything, whether a good game or a good community, I wish to alienate them, humiliate them and condemn them with disproportion violence.

 No.227585

None that I know of. It's impossible to have high-level quality without the shitheads coming in to disrupt and insist on wankery. It's always sporadic posts from people on whatever site who have no reason to deny they're virgin and say the truth. The usual suspects shout them down, but the truth remains the truth and enough people have said they appreciate the truth. Someone has to say it.

It's difficult to explain just how you are edited out of history, because it's being made an issue of ego and self-indulgence when how they really do it is institutional and doesn't require any such magic or thought from you at all. The system we live under is designed to make it utterly impossible for someone to exist without the approval of a few people who declare what you are and all potentials for your life. To describe how that works is not trivial and I attempt to write a summary of such, but it is just a summary and doesn't explain fully how they get you, or suggest there is a solution. (There probably isn't one, because this was the end result of what humans always were and what humans refused to change despite clearly having the technological ability to change and having the motives to do this for their own survival.)

What I can say is that there are LOT more of us out there, who don't say anything because there really is nothing to say, and the Nazi assholes police so many things that it becomes difficult to speak for long before the shrieking begins.



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 No.220422[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Okay, Almost all of us here barely have any friends IRL, me included (I am sure at least half of us here are fine with that), But what about online Socialization? even the biggest Hikikomoris socialize online, the issue is that I f*g can't relate to people online, even in circles that are meant for "losers" and "outcasts", even if i like many people there and we can somewhat get along, I still feel that I do not belong there and that we live in entirely different worlds, And I do not play online games, nor post in any other imageboard aside of this, I always feel home here, unlike anywhere else online, so it's comfy here, but somewhere like 4trannies? hell no, it really hits when my former online friends are advancing in life and starting romantic relationships and I am left in the same exact place (not negatively) it's when I realize that I don't belong around them and I am only going to relate to them less and less with the time, and I hate it when they try to get me to change my way and try to talk to me about "getting a G.F" and escaping wiz/apperantice-hood so i decide to just abandon them and live inside of my own mind bubble comfortably
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 No.227010

>>227006
<wtf is delusion of grandeur

 No.227011

i actually started socializing a lot when i was 15. i tried many diffrent groups mostly in the real world. at some point you realize that no matter where you look 99% people are the same, the only diffrence being how they dress, where they party and their politics. the only diffrence is they got brainwashed by diffrent media. even the most alternative people have the same blueprint and it gets very annoying.

 No.227013

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the very same traits and personality aspects of humans are displayed almost in full in any internet environment where socialization takes place, moreso to be found on internet groups of e-friends.

What I'm trying to say I guess is that, in general, if you're someone who likes people or people's company, then it will be easy to get along and find a group.

 No.227581

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I unironically think you should get a small cute chatbot to run on your computer.

Context. Back in the day, the first chatbot ever, the A.L.I.C.E. from 1966, was somewhat useful already to feel lonely people of the campus noticeably less lonely.

So hey. Chatbots. Even the antique code from around 60 years ago was good enough to make one's brain slightly happier, so a modern chatty can be even cooler



oh and A.L.I.C.E. is an extension for Edge or Chrome now btw.

 No.227582

>>227581
note to self: stop phoneposting and switch back to a laptop


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 No.222805[Reply]

I like Japanese things, I like image-board concept, but when i go to other chans people are mad.
I jut want to talk about hobbies music and things not hate/insult people.
I'm not technically a wizard yet, but probably is my destiny, but I like this chan.
what we can do for have more people just a bit, I'm starting too be bored of the same content.
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 No.225989

>>225975
Before imageboards junkies used to play Runescape because it was free and you could run it on a stolen 50 dollar laptop.

Private rs servers (especially classic) are still to this day full of those people who are now 40-50 and still talk about drugs on the chat 24/7.

 No.225992

>>222808
I am failed normie. I watch Instagram reels all day in which normies act like high skoolers to get likes. I wish I could make normie content like that.

 No.225997

wizchan is less toxic, but way more depressing

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 No.227579

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You know, IMO, there is something beautiful in early LLMs (they're trying to be nice, but that's it) and there was something beautiful in the early Internet in its "and that's it"-ness too.

lain
at its beautiful



 No.226256[Reply]

A few days ago I read about CBT thinking errors and have seen how I make them often when I'm considering the problems in my life.
I honestly think my psychological and emotional issues run too deep inside me to recover completely and have regular life, but I think much about the suffering of my situation comes from errors in my thinking.
This means that maybe we can work on our thoughts and move to a mental place that is not permeated by sadness and misery. Maybe even have some moments of happiness.
Doing this is hard work of introspection. It requires listening to your thoughts and be "open minded" enough to open to the possibility that maybe you made a mistake.
If you want to try, you can start by picking one thought and contrast it with thinking errors. Keep in mind, that it is likely that you will disagree with it being an error or not. When this happens, explain to yourself why and contrast that to the errors again. Repeat this forever basically.
I think it can be helpful to be open to the fact that not making mistakes is legitimately impossible; so, while it is true that our life have been subject to shitty conditions, there is the fact that we are worsening it with these mistakes and that finding some relief is possible for us.
I hope we can be well.
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 No.226270

>>226269
No, never. The world is as evil as it appears, if not more.

 No.226271

>>226268
Delusional take, CBT is quiet useful, it actually help a person to have a more truthful view of the world instead of just believing in every bullshit you think, learn critical thinking.

 No.226272

When your thoughts are distorted enough to for them to be harmful it will probably be hard for you to identify on your own.

This is why it is important to have a trustworthy support group and why you can't give therapy to yourself.

 No.226273

>>226272
I agree that therapy has an important role that probably can't be replaced, but leaving all mental care work to be done in the presence and with the approval of someone with authority is a bad idea.
Learning some basic stuff to take care of ourselves can help.

 No.227575

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to put it as simplr as possible, CBT allows you to:


reprogram yourself from some buggy mess left by your life experiences

make peace between the contradicting desires by going deeper, by uncovering how many ulteeior motives your wizard head actually has. And feed each desire just a little bit, probably



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 No.222729[Reply]

So, my fellow hoomans, does happy +25 NEETs still exist or is now only doom and gloomy views? What happen to the happiness that one feels when finally got the elusive NEETbux? What happen to the happy go luck older NEETs that instead of fighting fate (or tired of trying) just accepted his lot and try to find happiness on his piece of life? Now I only see "buuu huuu I'm le sad NEET". Where are those happy content older NEETs or all online NEETs now are just depressed neurotic people?
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 No.225003

>>222729
Thr doc looks like a jew

EDIT:
he actually is one

 No.226014

>>222729
I *kinda happy* about the placevi am now ok?

 No.226029

>+25 years old NEETs
>Now I only see "buuu huuu I'm le sad NEET".
I don't see how that's surprising. If you're a +25 years old NEET, as I am, you likely have some kind of mental illness. Regardless of what you think of society, and how much you think that being a NEET is right / good for you, you're still going to suffer from your mental illness. You can even avoid calling it an illness, and use some other words. But the reality is that you're not going to feel ok.
Even normalfags suffer, let alone a mentally ill NEET that has crossed the 25 mark.

If you tell me you're a NEET and DON'T have a mental illness, well, I don't know, that sounds weird.

>>223002
>The anxiety around NEETbux potentially being taken away was worse for me than just working.
This seems quite the overstatement.

 No.226088

>>226029
That's funny, I was a neet in 21-23.

 No.227569

>>222770
Your situation is very similar to mine except I live with my mother and my degree is just entirely online.



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 No.225720[Reply]

Hey, wizards. Why not some fun? In this thread, post every kind of humor. We need happy times.

 No.227031

>>225720
Bastard Operator From Hell



bash.org


not sure if you need my personal cringe from 2020

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 No.227560

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 No.227212[Reply]

https://archive.ph/3vGE1

Across the country, the ancient tradition of Orthodox Christianity is attracting energetic new adherents, especially among conservative young men. They are drawn to what they describe as a more demanding, even difficult, practice of Christianity. Echoing some of the rhetoric of the so-called manosphere, new waves of young converts say Orthodoxy offers them hard truths and affirms their masculinity.

One night this summer, the young adults of All Saints Orthodox Church in Raleigh, N.C., gathered at a bookshop and bar on the city’s north side. At the event’s peak, there were a mere handful of succubi present, and more than 40 men. The men noticed, and believed they knew why.

Orthodoxy “appeals to the masculine soul,” said Josh Elkins, a student at North Carolina State University who was chatting with other young men.
“The Orthodox Church is the only church that really coaches men hard, and says, ‘This is what you need to do,’” said Mr. Elkins, 20, who casually quoted a second-century martyr and rattled off terms like “monarchical episcopate” in conversation. He beamed as he talked about the weekly worship service known as the Divine Liturgy, an hourslong affair at which attendees typically stand the entire time, rather than sitting in the pews or kneeling.

Orthodox Christians in the United States are younger and more male than many other Christian groups here.

Some converts report approvingly that Orthodoxy has a more masculine feel than other traditions. Priests, who must be male and can marry, often have large beards and big families. Orthodoxy asks practitioners to make sacrifices like fasting, rather than offering them emotional contemporary music and therapeutic sermons, which critics describe as the typical evangelical megachurch experience.
“There’s no war for us to die in — well, there are wars for us to die in, just not ones that are honorable,” Laric Copes Jr., 28, who attends All Saints, said. For former Protestants like himself, Orthodoxy serves as “a kind of frontier of exploration,” he said.
“Young men need purpose, whatever that is,” said Jerod Stine, 26. “Young men are struggling to find jobs, they’re struggling to get into schools, and they’re really being told by society, ‘We don’t really need you.’”
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 No.227504

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>>227501
sounds like bain


Counterargument:


IIRC, a lady can literally marry someone who'll become a priest, "batyushka". Therefore, a priest's wife is "matushka".

picrandom

 No.227527

>>227216
The Jews of Jesus's time thought the messiah would be a king, too. And that he would expel the Romans militarily. It's very similar. Ironic.

 No.227537

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>>227504
>sounds like bain
>Counterargument:
?
>>227212
>The Wiz Church of only volcel young men, almost zero succubi
>>227501
>The Wiz
A church of Wiz is a church of virgin at will, there's no succubi (maybe there's no witches)
>Only volcel
A curch of Wiz cannot be Volce, Volcel is against the Wiz philosophy. you become a damn crab melting with succubus bitch-attention seeking.
>Young men
Not generally but Wiz are old, sometimes, but this generation is more young maybe.
>Almost zero succubi
>Almost
This ruin the Only volcel and Young men and Wiz at same time.
There's maybe succubi (or witch) in wiz church
there's no succubi in volcel church (there's no crab succubus, maybe volcel who knows)
there's a chance of succubi in a young men church.

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 No.227538

>>227212
>“Young men need purpose, whatever that is,”
>“Young men are struggling to find jobs"
🎵 Fake heroes are easy to spot
🎵 If you speak the truth you'll get lonely

🎵 Sailor 💃 saaailoor muntarou…

https://wizchan.org/lounge/res/322020.html

 No.227553

>>227537
*sounds like baiT

lurk more



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 No.223989[Reply]

My mom was an airhead who barely learned to read and write. She grew in poverty and she's obsessed with being poor and loves watching videos of people in extreme poverty. Despite all that she is a narcissistic cunt who thinks she's superior to everyone and loves to humilliate people every chance she gets. She got with my dad because she thought he was rich. No matter how much money she gets she tries to spend it all as soon as she gets it. As a kid, she constantly told me that she didn't love me and that I ruined her life, everytime my dad left the house she used to beat me. Everytime I'm around her, she makes sure to make hurtful comments, completely unprovoked, and loves to shame me in front of people. I know that part of my low self-steem is because of her. She always made me feel like I was worth nothing.

My dad was a musician that eventually became a moderately famous photographer for a national newspaper. He was a decent man when I was a kid, but eventually he started to beat my mom and me, he also kicked us out of the house plenty of times. His so called "fame" got the better of him and became a womanizer. He spent most of his money on succubi and came back home with nothing. That obviously caused more fights that always ended with me having to mop my mother's blood off the floor and having to call an ambulance to get her to the hospital. The beatings only caused my mom to resent me even more for "ruining her life". I was just an elementary school kid when all of these things happened and they continued to happen until I was 17. On top of that I was getting bullied at school, so I came back home from getting bullied to find my parents trying to kill each other.

Now almost a couple of decades later, I'm stuck with two aging parents who believe that I "owe" them for the hell they put me though. Needless to say, I hate them. And even though I feel some "love" for them as a son and know that I will cry them when they finally die. A part of me will find relief when that happens.
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 No.227399

>>227398
>But why do you guys go into church for that?
been thinking about the fact I lack feeling having things done alright.

Accidentally remebered some childhood memories of "feeling alright" after visiting church (happened several times, I suppose)

 No.227405

>>227398
>why do you guys go into church for that?
To be brutally honest I only went to church for most of my life to please my father but a couple of years ago we started going to a different church in the neighboring village and (hope I won't get banned for this) there are quite a lot of good-looking succubi there and like the creep I am I just like to stare at them. I live almost like a hikki hermit, I only go to church for one hour per week, that's all the time I'm around other people so yeah as pathetic as it is I just want to be around some beautiful succs for an hour per week. Fapping to porn is good but sometimes it's just better to fantasize about real people you know irl. It's not like I will ever interact or talk with them in any way so who cares, I'm just an autist-schizo pervert and the looks I'm getting from everyone in the church community just reinforce this.

 No.227407

Overprotective mom and happy wife happy life handsoff dad.
I wonder if I was essentially fatherless. Or a father-lite upbringing

At least they are seemingly kind, but I might just be completely brainwashed

 No.227547

>>223989
Mommy was verbally abusive and damaged me by being there, meanwhile Daddy wasn't there when it mattered.
They aren't completely terrible people, just people who probably shouldn't have had kids, my sister turned out much better than I did, and I'm glad because me being such a horrific failure at the very least guarantees that she's a saint by comparison, so she got the approval she didn't get as a teenager because I was younger and had potential or whatever.
I DO hold my mom's abusive past against her in secret, but I don't have any issues openly because being allowed to NEET is a luxury as >>223992 said.

 No.227552

>>227362
even things like that seem so hard to me that it is almost impossible. im so scared of every social interaction that its like i am paralyzed. i don't know how to break it



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