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 No.229350[Reply]

Hey wizzies, I feel the need to classify and understand myself but I'm having trouble with that.

I stay inside when possible but I regularly have to go to appointments (therapy, psychiatry). I am forced out of my shell by obligation. I isolate at home but keep a functional tether to the world via appointments. I do not go outside for fun, I have no IRL friends but some online. I have enough food at home to last me 3 weeks so I don't need to get groceries or accept deliveries. I am very scared when outside. I am NEETing and depend on rehabilitation money.

I am not a hikkimori, what am I?
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 No.229582

you are a glorified cuda interface

 No.229583

I don't know what you are, but I can guess that what you'll be in a few years won't be a pretty sight if you keep living like this. Good luck

 No.229615

>>229351
I also have avoidant personality disorder. This is a good description, but I think it misses some things. Avoidant personality disorder and social anxiety are related and often coincide, but you can still have AVPD without any social anxiety at all. The avoidance stems from a desire to avoid traumatic rejection. Even if you are not anxious at all in interactions you can still have AVPD because you avoid people due to not wanting to get rejected by them. It particularly comes down to wanting to avoid any sort of actual relationship with a person. Random normies that you just interact with at a store or something are usually just subject to social anxiety, but social anxiety is treatable. I know because I tried hard and managed to make a good deal of progress. I still have social anxiety but it's a lot less than it used to be. Avoidance still just as bad though. I think it stems from a feeling that deep down I am unlikable so the more someone comes to know me, the worse things will be for me (as understood by the crazy part of my brain). This triggers a desire to avoid people and it gets stronger the more time I spend with them.

 No.229616

>>229395
This was my life in my 20s but after 10 years of that shit I gave up trying to get medically treated. Ironically I'm doing better now than ever.

 No.229633

>I am very scared when outside.
don't be. there is no logical advantage to that.

if you haven't please try breathing exercises and meditation. that changed everything for me.



 No.229141[Reply]

I can't mentally relate to a regular 40 year old in any shape or form. People who already have 20 year careers or are even CEO's. While I still replay old SNES games on emulators and work a basic job while taking care of an elderly parent who needs assistance for almost everything.
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 No.229553

Part of it is location, Americans especially were quick to kick kids out at 18. I was willing to work hard but had no desire to level up at work or be a community leader. My parents screwed up by kicking us all out of the house: they have a son that won't be hosting Christmas or thanksgiving feasts for the extended family because I don't believe in that lifestyle. A "failure" in normie eyes? Maybe. I don't believe in the American dream and I'm just happy I'm free of suburbia.

 No.229570

>>229553
>Part of it is location
True, plus it's the time period and economic situation. What often times get touted as a "independence" or "growing up" is just being fortunate enough to live in a time and place where you actually have the opportunity to go off and live on your own (often times with a helping of the right family situation i.e. daddy hooking you up with a nice job, so you can actually afford to move out).
Sometimes I see people brag and look down at people who still live with their parents at an age that's not socially acceptable, and it always pisses me off because these "independent" people would have been in exactly the same situation had their lot in life been slightly different.

 No.229572

>>229553
Pure american narcissism. You dont see the asians, arabs or even half of europe doing this crap.

>>229570
NTA but I sometimes wonder how different my life would be if I lived in the 70s or 80s. Even if I'm a total loser at least I'd get plenty of job opportunities I couldnt even think of getting now.

 No.229578

>>229141
Character growth stops at high school for most people. In my wagie job at a factory, I have meet 50-60 year olds who tries to mog each other over social status or materialism, like they are still in high school.
>guys look at how cool I am, I own a Iphone!
>I have stacy, you have becky!

 No.229631

>>229141
I'm soon to be 30 but I feel like I got stuck at 20yo. Part of it is certainly the covid years that were basically just limbo where nothing moved forward and I stayed inside only being enrolled in college without actually studying or taking exams. Now I'm starting trainee program that is meant for 16-17 year olds and I will be a decade older than almost all of them. I flunked out of college and it's impossible to get a job without any kind of certification so this is my only real option but it only reinforces this feeling of being weirdly out of sync. I have moments where I realize that my youth has passed a decade ago, notice signs of aging in my parents and I get scared for a bit. But mostly I'm honestly fine with the way I'm living. I'll be happy to work my basic job and play video games with the few friends I have left, living at home and spending time with my parents while they're still in good health.



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 No.229594[Reply]

when my IVF wizkids grow up and turn 18 they'll be posting on wiz, hob, lounge, jp, and games
never on dep
that'll mean I was a good wizdad
my lolis by that age would have their own witchie site they created by using a programming language
they'll post about astrology, make up, boybands, harry potter books and also discuss high literature like Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen, they will also have a game board where they will post videos of The Sims videogames as well as maybe some new game similar to stardew valley which they will like to play as well

 No.229596

Moved to >>>/b/1039947.



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 No.229531[Reply]

In my daily life, I'm always hurt by others or hurt others, and that's normal. Therefore, I decided to be alone and create content on YouTube instead of constantly hurting and being hurt, I hate everyone but sorry I have to speak frankly here.
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 No.229534

what does wiz even talk about if you dont do things with people? gayming? vent about past experiences?

 No.229535

making content will just open you up to getting hurt by anonymous strangers. the only way to stay safe is to never talk to anyone or share any details that open you up to attack. if you post vlogs on your channel, you will just become the new chris-chan lolcow.

 No.229575

>>229531
whats the channel called bucko?

 No.229577

>>229575
Agil Chanss

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 No.229558[Reply]

It's hard to forget the past, to be honest, it almost frustrates me. Do I have to pay for my past mistakes by isolating myself for the rest of my life? But those cunning people used me in the past to make me feel wrong and evil, making me feel guilty until now. Do those cunning people also feel guilty for what they did to me in the past, or am I the only one who feels guilty for my mistakes?
Everyone has their own problems, yes, I agree with that. Making me hate everyone and isolating myself is very mentally exhausting. Honestly, I thought being hurt or hurting others was not normal, but strangely enough, it is normal for everyone.
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 No.229561

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Ah…I don´t know, but one day you´ll forget it, get over it, and finally heal.
Or at least, that´s what i hope for you.

 No.229563

If I had been mistreated, I would feel anger rather than guilt.

 No.229566

you must detach yourself from these feelings and disassemble them as if they belonged to another person. analyze meanings and intents. study events around yourself. adapt. these things you feel are baseless and meaningless, they are external. they are but messages, that may or may not be useful to you. do not let these message shape the pathways of your though, but rather let them only paint the image of circumstance around yourself.

 No.229571

>>229559
Dont you get banned on crystal cafe for posting shit like this? They dont seem very receptive to pain. Also, I think OP was trying to keep things private.

 No.229581

>>229571
>They dont seem very receptive to pain
kek peak femdom



 No.227831[Reply]

I think that today, autistic and witchy people have a huge advantage over neurotypical people. We have extensive knowledge on a wide variety of subjects, we are determined in the face of adversity, and even if we are socially awkward or find it difficult to talk to people (this is my case, I am socially isolated) we can come together in these spaces and stop forcing social contact with neighbors or parents who ask us for the umpteenth time why we still don't have any friends or a girlfriend. Personally, I'd rather go online to investigate the Epstein case than have friends, and I think that's the case for many of you here. The others are completely ridiculous with their social codes to follow. They restrict themselves in terms of intellectual capacity in a completely stupid way to appear socially acceptable because the norm prefers a dumb athlete to a brilliant intellectual. That's why most people prefer athletes like soccer players or basketball players to Gregori Perelman, who solved Poincaré's conjecture. This whole circus is completely ridiculous. People make fun of their neighbors when they themselves are stupid, but to reassure themselves, they say that others are stupid and criticize us because we are not “within the norm.” We do not accept the social contract imposed by popular dogma, which wants us to we criticize to reassure ourselves without accumulating knowledge. Also, do people really compare their time spent on TikTok or Instagram to the knowledge in books, articles, and other sources before criticizing others? Maybe we should look in the mirror and accept that we are trash in order to change and follow a virtuous path that respects others. That's why we're here discussing this: we need to create a close-knit community and distance ourselves from the idiots who criticize us, keeping only those who understand us.And besides, it's not AI that's going to save these idiots. They need to rediscover what it means to read books, to dream, and to use their brains.
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 No.229482

Years ago I witnessed an actual autist, he wasn’t capable of living alone and was housed in a residential group for disabled people. What you are describing is not real autism but weirdness, I agree. A real autist couldn't even write such text or use a device necessary for writing such text without destroying this device in an autistic tantrum after it doesn't exactly work like he wants it to work. Autism as you describe it here for a fact seems like a meme and the concept of it being a spectrum mainly seems to serve the idea that pretty much every person in one aspect has autistic traits in them. That's not helpful as a concept.

 No.229483

>>229482
Agree with this completely. When somebody is "off" you can tell almost immediately. They talk too much, lack social tact (and this doesn't mean social awkwardness or "anxiety" more so being totally unable to read a room) or you can tell in their face or mannerisms.

Any healthcare "professional" or mental health type person would label me autistic when the reality is I've lived an alienated and isolated life for over a decade and this turned me into what I am today. I was a happy though shy child, but the world beat me down and I had no support, so I became twisted and neurotic.

Put anyone in my shoes and give them the experiences I did (or didn't) have and they'd end up mostly the same, probably with some slight temperamental differences pushing them in somewhat different trajectories but all within an expected radius.

Taking it to the extreme, a child raised feral will display insanely "autistic" and "neurodivergent" traits and be gassed up with all kinds of conditions and labels, irrelevant to the root cause of why they ended up like that.

I actually find it very condescending and useless. People go through things and it changes them, a bullied kid will become insular and maladapted to his social environment because the environment to him is hostile. He will then display "autistic" tendencies. This kid, already feeling othered by the world through social exclusion, will be further othered by a label calling him fundamentally different and other and alien. Now maybe some people find that comforting. I find it insulting.

It ignores the fundamental things all people need to not end up broken and twisted and replaces them with a generalized label you can slap on anybody without any understanding of the root cause(s) or how society or the environment or anything else might be at fault. It's instead "you're fundamentally different, you have x, y and z, and here's some ADHD medication while you're at it. this is your life now." It's lazy and stupid.

 No.229500

>>229483
You weren't shy. Just an ordinary middle to lower-middle functioning autist. Your life trajectory in a 2000s Earth was genetically predetermined to isolation and games.

 No.229514

>>229482
>Autism as you describe it here for a fact seems like a meme and the concept of it being a spectrum mainly seems to serve the idea that pretty much every person in one aspect has autistic traits in them. That's not helpful as a concept.

There is an interesting push in general for people to assume fake mental illnesses that they don't have. The first one that got popular was ADHD. Every phone addicted Stacy started claiming they had ADHD so that's why they weren't paying attention in school and why they need you to raise their grade. Then it became autism or trannies. Lots of fake trannies out there these days who just pretend to be trans for attention and support. Sometimes I legitimately think people are confusing the symptoms of screen addiction with "neurodivergence".

 No.229516

>>229500
I was shy. As a child I had lots of friends but it took a while for me to be comfortable and open up - when I did though I was quite sociable. At what point does that stop being someone's natural temperament (further influenced by parents and environment) and instead become a lower-middle third bottom echelon delta gamma west on the y vector quadrant foil trading card type autism?

It's not like I'm entirely repulsed by the idea of having some special-freak-boy label to rationalize my shitty life and social misgivings - but I don't find it useful. It makes complete sense someone in my situation would be the way I am.



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 No.228138[Reply]

Stepped on the scale today and realized that despite the initial "push" from a medical crisis a year ago, I basically regained all weight I lost (minus 5-10kg).
I also realized I've been working for almost 3 years now, going to be 30 the same week I'll hit my 3 years of work too.
3 years… of wages wasted.

I don't even know what the fuck I spent most of it on. It just escapes me.
Still live with mom and all my necessities are taken care of she takes nothing from me.
I had a blessed opportunity these past 3 years to save up for the dogshit future that hit the world now and I wasted it on toys and basically indulging all I couldn't as a NEET with no money.
The worst is that since I'm an impulsive retard I mostly have nothing to show for it either.

Health is even more fucked then ever before since I never took action.
Rather every action that didn't prove fruitful or flat out failed resulted in my absolute surrender for another month or three or six…
Absolutely defeated at the starting line basically.

To get to the point of this thread. Those of you that live a decently structured, responsible and stable life, how?
I barely have a sense of time. Kinda like when I was a NEET, just instead of 12-16 hours of sleeping and then PC stuff I'm forced to work a rather easy, blessed job.
Once it passes I just feel like I'm teleported to the next shift until I get to sleep through a weekend and months pass.
Even chronic pains don't make me act much. What does one even do to live?

The worst part really is that so many years went down the drain and I really have nothing to show for it. Not even memories.
I want to at least look back on SOMETHING fondly when I'm dying someday.
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 No.229478

>>229476
i'm pretty sure that calculus is usually covered in two-three semesters max, so 1-1.5 years to understand the material well seems pretty reasonable if you treat it with the same time investment as an average university student.

also, polyglot takes way longer because even romance languages take like several hundreds of hours to get proficient.

 No.229481

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 No.229487

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>>229481
>I'm Barry. I went bankrupt after 17 years as a comedian, spent five years, squatting, sometimes homeless, paralysed, then built Angel Comedy - one of London's most popular and sucessful comedy clubs.
The breakthrough? Unlearning the lie that my poverty was my fault. Now I use behavioural science and neuroscience to show you the invisible systems that keep people stuck: how poverty traps your psychology & why the current system needs you to blame yourself. This channel, inspired by Gary's Economics, is an ongoing investigation into how power really works. We're figuring it out together.
Cool dude, very grounded into reality and spectacle media.

 No.229488

>>229481
>>229487
The current state of public discourse is worse than survivorship bias. It's eugenics based on just-world fallacy.

 No.229515

>>229481
It's not all survivorship bias. You miss all the shots you never take. A lot of people try once, miss, then sit on their ass and whine about how life isn't fair. Other people just keep shooting. The people who keep shooting their shot always end up ahead while the ones who just sit around and do nothing get behind. Mostly it comes down to having parents who can financially support this sort of thing, and having the right attitude. That's why you notice all the successful types are all the same type of ultra normie. High energy, always doing things, meeting people, etc. Survivorship bias only plays into it for people who are that type of person. People who aren't like them aren't even included in the same category.



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 No.229434[Reply]

what are some media with wizard-like characters? I say Wozzeck is a good example (although he has sex and a child). He is basically a low ranking soldier in the German army who is experimented on by a psychiatrist who forces him on a diet entirely consisting of beans and continually gaslights him. He is also belittled and ordered around by the Captain. At the end of the opera, he loses his mind and drowns himself in a lake.
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 No.229451

>>229445
>And yes, social aversion, introversion, introspection, self-awareness, daydreaming, shyness, few friends or none at all, etc. all define a wiz and his life

agreed. virginity is just another marker. it's often substantial, not having any intimate sexual contact by your 30s is often rare, which is why it's a good marker but it's not definitive. you could be a complete normalfag but still be a virgin out of religious beliefs or you're just somewhat weird about sex but you've still had girlfriends. i don't want those types posting here, i want what you described. also, it's very easy to simply LIE about being a virgin but not quite as easy to pretend you have a different personality, eventually you will slip up, and we've had cases like that in wizchan history. admins and moderators that were basically sexhavers and they only got caught because they shared too much information about their life and it become very apparent.

 No.229452

>>229451
virginity is a necessary condition but not a sufficient one.

 No.229509

>>229451
>shared too much information about their life and it become very apparent
Im somewhat new here. Where do they share that kind of info?

 No.229510

>>229509
they shared stories and sent dick pics to each other on their private discords and it got leaked. "new" admin says that these people were purged from the moderation staff, but i don't know how true that is. ownership of wizchan gets passed around in tight-knit groups that know each other, but it's a common pattern that these people eventually just get tired of LARPing as virgins and then throw the keys to one of their butt-buddies.

 No.229512

Ben Katz from Dr. Katz. Prime neet Absolutely hilarious. Watched this when i was a teen and in my neet days. Guy is great.



 No.229489[Reply]

The term „wizard“ is cool but I’m 18 and still a big fat virgin, I want a cool title too!

 No.229490

It's called a wizard apprentice, newfag.
We also call you wizkid.

 No.229495

Moved to >>>/b/1039598.



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 No.229321[Reply]

When you watch, read or listen to something, do you prefer to avoid that something's subject matter being humans? I assume most if not all here share a dislike for NORPs/normalscum/NPCs, yet it was occurring to me that it is odd that I should make an exception for my dislike of them when it comes to fiction. Obviously I think our dislike of normal people comes from who they are rather than what they are, so I think sufficiently weird humans like ourselves, or aliens with human appearance, aren't necessarily excluded. It doesn't necessarily need to be restricted to fiction either, people who mainly engage with the animal world, or impersonal sciences, strike me as commendably unengaged with the broader mass of humankind. But I'm most interested, I would say, in those here who do engage with things involving normal people and how they reconcile that with who they are and their beliefs.
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 No.229392

they dislike normies as in people here don't think about them or interact with them
neets play video games or do other solitary activities without thinking about society or normies at all

 No.229393

>>229321
The irony of the image is hilarious.

 No.229397

Humans are great, they build the internet and stuff.
Without humans we would not be discussing this here.
What I dislike is bland grey stuff that they make to the normies that is now everywhere.
Besides that, you can enjoy anything if you ignore the status quo or that you are silently being watched and judged by someone, even if this someone is yourself.

 No.229400

>>229397
>Without humans we would not be discussing this here

Precisely. Curse them.

 No.229428

>>229321
I actually struggle with this and barely ever finished any sort of video game/tv show/movie etc.
I tried getting into anime even though I never had any interest in it throughout my life because I liked the idea of it being a completely foreign language and strictly 2d. Definitely helped a bit, easier to digest, but my mind wanders and sometimes I start thinking about the people behind the thing I'm consuming and their intentions and it makes me sick more often than not.



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