/wiz/ - Wizardry

By extension of all stated above, her disposition towards you cannot be predicated on having sex, so it not required to retain her by your side.

But still, I am not sufficiently interested in humans to sacrifice my personal space and time.

>>224638
>But still, I am not sufficiently interested in humans to sacrifice my personal space and time.
This is the reason why 90% of volcels are volcels. Volcels don't enjoy forming relationships, they find them tedious and demanding. And sex without a relationship (from what I've been told) is no different than self-abuse, rendering need for such a succubus unnecessary.

Sure why not. I already imagine a relationship every time I look at 2D succubi. I don't see the difference.

>>224641
zoomer detected
opinion discarded

>>224639
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thats the best answer you can have, op.

thats 100% it.

>>224642
There are already zoomers with mortgages and 2 kids. Update your vocabulary. Gen A since it starts all over

>>224644
they are still zoomers
it's not about age
it's about a foreign mentality
no one with dignity watches vtubers

>>224646
gen A is based
unlike zoomers, they won't grow into succubus-worshipping cucks

>>224639
The way OP post is worded is that the relationship is going to be whatever you want it to be. If you say you don't want a relationship because it's tedious and demanding that implies you'd be fine with a relationship if it's not tedious and not demanding.

>>224647
You don't even know what is and isn't a vtuber. You just hallucinated a trait about someone based on wrong information and started going at them. You're one step into a real schizophrenic episode.

>>224649
Immediate human presence is always tiresome.

>>224650
Yeah I like to imagine fictional people as different though. I fantasize about being with someone who can make feel comfortable instead of in danger but that's not going to happen with the efficient selfish gene-proliferation device of flesh and chemicals we call humans. In imagination however I can think away all the negative traits I hate in humans and leave the best of our qualities.

>>224648
it's just an obnoxious phase, just like we had the "lol so randum :D nyan cat firin mah lazor AWSUM" phase
but they will grow out of it at an age at which our generation was still playing with our wooden choo choo trains

>>224649
how can anyone with self-respect watch 3DPD posing as 2D anime succubus?
or worse, a man posing as 2D anime succubus?

>>224652
You just sounds like you're looking for a reason to complain now. The succubus is a vrchat avatar that some guy did a video testing his face tracking rig. The model is cute so it got popular because people like the way it look. That's it. He doesn't talk in the video. It might as well be a 3D animation someone make it blender. I don't understand your autistic purism. So if someone did a rotoscope animation it's 3DPD because there's a real actor doing motions? How about voice actors? If a guy animate something by hand and another guy animate the exact same thing with mocap such that you can't tell the difference why does it matter which one you watch?

>>224653
so you watch a dude virtually dress up as a 2D succubus?
that is fucking disgusting


>How about voice actors?
thank you for making this comparison
it perfectly illustrates the difference
and the difference is:

2D anime succubi in anime or whatever have their predefined personality, which is often idealized and free from the imperfections of a real succubus
the voice actor merely provides the voice

2D anime succubi played by 3DPD vtubers have the personality of the 3DPD attention whore who's behind the scenes
no attention should be paid to attention whores
succubi should be disregarded


also the face tracking is fucking uncanny and ugly
I mean what the fuck, don't you feel cheated when you watch a 2D succubus and you KNOW that there is a 3DPD behind it?
do you think makeup on succubi is a good thing, or do you think it's a deception, like dishonest advertising?

>>224636
why would such a succubus have an interest in someone like me?
why would such a perfect succubus stick around with a guy like me?
why would such a succubus behave in such a way thats very untypical for succubi?
I guess I would just assume its a scam of some sort and then just walk away from her asap.

>>224652
I never had that phase. Only sub 80 iq animals did. I was doing early crypto at that age and building a home by the time I was 19 without any carpentry training except books and videos.

>>224636
Im loyal to my 2D waifu, but I guess she is kind of what you described.

>>224654
I get what you mean, just the thought of them being unpure and corrupted by the demiurge is disgusting. Anything to do with 3DPD is disgusting.

>>224639
Probably the best answer, I too would only really want to love another being If I dont have to sacrifice anything. Even my 2D waifu is a doll.

I don't really see the point of such a hypothetical other than to try and push the crab narrative that there is no such thing as volcels.

That said
I have no desire to "have" someone. Even the concept of romance is mildly offensive to me.
While I have sexual urges, I will always prefer to satisfy such urges myself than engage in a relationship.

Or to make things super duper simple.
The answer is still no.

>>224652
>how can anyone with self-respect watch 3DPD posing as 2D anime succubus?
>or worse, a man posing as 2D anime succubus?
It's the digital equivalent of a puppet.
You are taking offense over nothing.

>>224654
You sounds like me when I was 15 and was trying to get true weeaboo cred online by hating on normalfags and fake otaku. You're too low iq to think about what I said or research about the thing you are pretending to know about. You are a hate to feel superior loser. It's like when I am arguing with a culture war retards online. You can give them a thought out write-up on why you like a game and they'll be like "Nuh uh, it has trannies so you're stupid.". It's like asking a /pol/tard on why a third world country has certain socioeconomic conditions and they just goes "Uhhh because they're shitskins duh. Niggers BTFO.". You are incapable of critical thinking. You just see a real actor playing a character and your brain just goes "Real actor bad." and filter out everything that could challenge your worldview.

>2D anime succubi in anime or whatever have their predefined personality, which is often idealized and free from the imperfections of a real succubus
>the voice actor merely provides the voice
That's exactly what this is and I already lay out why this is the exact same thing in my post. You're just too stupid or too lazy to understand. There is no reason why real actors provide voice = good but real actors provide motion = bad.

>2D anime succubi played by 3DPD vtubers have the personality of the 3DPD attention whore who's behind the scenes
Again this is not a vtuber. There is no follow up video to this viral meme video. There is no talking. There is no extra information about the youtuber. Your brain just jump to vtubers because they live rent free in your head and you're just itching every second to tell the world you hate vtubers. That's why even when the topic isn't about vtuber you just make up a narrative that it is so you can talk about how much you hate something.

>>224662
Im not that wizzie. While he may have early onset schizophrenia and hallucinated things that werent there because vtubers are living in his head rent free but I kind of understand part of what he meant.
Mixing 2D and 3DPD like that usually just corrupts the perfection of 2D.
Hes argument of the motion capture being too much is retarded tho, I dont see the problem with it and Im kind of sad he derailed the conversation so hard.

>If you could have such a succubus, would you still refuse to have sex with her?
Yes sex is scary and gross

>>224660
>It's the digital equivalent of a puppet.
No, vtubers are a lite version of onlyfans. Do you watch gamer gurl streams too?

>>224685
I know you don't actually believe that at all.
Your trolling is too obvious.
Get a life.

>>224734
>Sage rage
>Denying the valid rejection of watching female streamers on a board about disregarding succubi
>Saying "Get a life" in 2025
I spy with my little eye, a simp outsider who is so desperate for female companionship but can't get it due to being an ugly retard that he needs to watch mentally ill succubi scream and shout fakely at video games to form a parasocial bond with them alongside 15,000 other ugly retards who wake up every day hoping to send money towards what amounts to a random street meat normalfag succubus who herself is too ugly to use a normal webcam pretend to be bad at video games!

Give up? It's YOU, anon No. 22473! Hee hee~!

>>224736
>gets clocked for trolling
>trolls harder
>derails harder

As expected of a troll

>>224737
>>gets clocked for trolling
>>trolls harder
>>derails harder
>As expected of a troll
Your post reads like a compliment, but alas your sage betrays your newfag tourist subject position. Trolling is a art and imageboard users used to understand this.

>>224749
>retarded namecalling an art
you're a consumated internet addict sir

>>224636
>she would always love you no matter what
Like those succubi who stay with their spouses despite them cheating, drunk driving, supporting fascist regimes in their atrocities. (not examples of my behaviour)

The approach of no matter what equals to slavery by choice or same morality as the spouse. No dignity, no honor. Pathetic and immoral.

>>224773
Some idealize slaves to ideals, to love, to devotion.
Some want to be slave and other want to have them.

Individualism is in my bones so it's really hard for me to understand.
Freedom is scary to most people. Both their own and especially others having it.

>>224773
Please lecture us about what is objectively moral and right, I would love to hear about it.

>>224636
I'm not interested.
I like being alone. I don't want to have sex. Jerking off in my room is what I want.

>>224636
I'm not sure even given those above.
The issue is that I just don't like being around people for extended periods of time.
A relationship with a succubus entails that.
I don't have the capacity to tolerate being prompted for discussion or being shared ideas/thoughts with constantly.
I prefer interactions be on my own terms at my own pace, whenever I feel like I have the capacity and only until the extent I'm willing to have them.

If you are in some form of relationship (parental, siblings, friends too, these are the ones I have experience with) they will prompt you for interaction like needy dogs or just noisy retards looking to indulge in attention.
I don't require this and I'm really not tolerant of it.
succubi have a much greater need for this than even dogs. Dogs are fine just being in your presence for the most part and are grateful for whatever attention you give them.
People have demands. I can not and do not wish to meet those.

So basically the only way I could ever imagine such a thing is as it was depicted in pic rel manga (Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo) and only the initial succubus presented, not the rest.
Ironically she is a dog of some sort and a slave.
Not only that, the author decided to make her a slave that is fully aware and has completely embraced her lot.
Now this is as detached from reality as it gets. This is the type you describe in your post as well.
If the hypothetical succubus is like this with the options of being turned off at will I would consider it.

Issue then arises that I'm not completely devoid of empathy and would care for them, just like I cared for a dog.
I'm not sure I'm willing to take on such responsibilities again.
I can neglect myself as much as I want, but I'm not sure I could do that to another that I willingly accept/chose myself.

Also just as a side note, succs are disgusting creatures if you take of the biological imperative goggles.
I've seen my sis when I was young having to bleach underwear with skidmarks from back to front.
These filthy creatures ooze something all day and then they have the nerve to bleed in chunks every month.
I just don't trust succubi to be hygienic at all.
I've seen a webm of a succubus standing, ejecting a kid and then catching it with her hands in one swift motion as well. Absolute vermin.
They truly are made to suffer and perpetuate suffering.

>>224636
The real question revolves on what price am I going to pay for that. If it were "no consequences that would be unpleasant in my concept", maybe I'd give it a try.

on the one hand
lmao free will is not real get rekt
On the other O will attempt to answer your questions because my own free will is not real.
>she would always love you no matter what
I am reasonably sure that all the normalfags, chads and succubi who told me that love is not real are the qualified experts on that subject. I no longer question them.
>she would never betray you
This is the bare minimum standard for being a human person. There are approximately three human persons in the world. There will not be a fourth. Still, I did not develop homosexuality out of resonance towards this point so I think it is not a qualifier for romance.
>she would never nag
>she would never test you
>she would never insult or mock you
>she would never do anything you wouldn't want her to
I question whether or not anyone, normies included, really yearns for this in any sort of spine-deep way. For the most part this seems like an incorrect fantasy. I believe most men would love a wife who nags him for sex, tests his skill at things he is good at, mocks him gently and with understanding and patience, and who corrects or smooths over social errors incl. with relatives for whom he genuinely does not want to maintain speaking terms.

Ultimately because a succubus who would not nag or do anything contrary to my will would not push for sex, no sex could occur.

>>225080
>I believe most men would love a wife who nags him for sex, tests his skill at things he is good at, mocks him gently and with understanding and patience, and who corrects or smooths over social errors incl. with relatives for whom he genuinely does not want to maintain speaking terms.
This is an even more delusional daydream than what OP came up with.
Hats off to you wizard.

>>225081
thank you I am trying to develop a truly refined daydream formula to sell in a dating sim (no story outline yet because I believe in characters first).

>>225080
>I believe most men would love a wife who nags him for sex, tests his skill at things he is good at, mocks him gently and with understanding and patience, and who corrects or smooths over social errors incl. with relatives for whom he genuinely does not want to maintain speaking terms.
Maybe but some men dont want that, I wouldnt mind the type that OP proposed, not ever going against me or bothering me sounds nice. But propably sex wouldnt occur if she never nagged for it.

>>224636
I don't care about romance or relationships. succubi are a distraction. The only thing I desire is to be the best at what I do.

>>225104
Being good at modern yugioh is not a worthwhile pursuit.

>>225105
Who said anything about yugioh? Also, I'll decide for myself what is or isn't worthwhile to me, not anonymous internet users.

>>225107
Why bother posting Kaiba then?

>Also, I'll decide for myself what is or isn't worthwhile to me, not anonymous internet users.
Everyone on this site is just a figment of my imagination.
It is up to me what you want wiztulpa#433
Your existence is at my mercy.

>>225107
>I'll decide for myself what is or isn't worthwhile to me, not anonymous internet users.
admirable

>>225108
>solipsism
stinky, unfunny cancer

>>225108
>Why bother posting Kaiba then?
I post what I want.

>Everyone on this site is just a figment of my imagination.
Your schizophrenia is irrelevant to me.

>>225108
He's an "ironic weeb" who feels the need to post any anime person, even if it's from an anime he's never seen.

>>225112
If you're going to make random, false personal assumptions about people you've never met, then it's fair for me to assume you have genuine brain damage.

>>225113
Idk why but you sound like you are trying so hard to be edgy.

>>224636
well…. nah.


(robotic maids are another thing; I would love to have a pristine machine roaming around… given it won update every now and thdn)

>>225191
*given it won't update

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