How you guys cope with anhedonia? I can't do anything because of it.
I just lay in my bed all the day.
I just lay in my bed all the day.
You wouldn't be that way if you were staring death in the face every day. It's basic human psychology to be severely depressed when you're doing nothing productive.
Token anhedonia thread, yet again.
>>236747
It isn't about productivity at all. It is about having desires and passions and following them and living them out as much as one has the power to do it. OP is another wizkid who lacks goals and interests, probably just a phase that will pass when he will get bored of being miserable.
>>236747
It isn't about productivity at all. It is about having desires and passions and following them and living them out as much as one has the power to do it. OP is another wizkid who lacks goals and interests, probably just a phase that will pass when he will get bored of being miserable.
It's easy. You've realized that your earnest desires can't be fulfilled so you turn to escapism. Imagine a bird locked forever in a golden cage.
I just go through the motions, I'm not really sure why anymore. I don't even have very grandiose ideas anymore. I just want to not suffer like I did in the past
Anhedonia is either a product of a lack of exposure to new activities and people, which is common for people with restrictive lifestyles like shut-ins and NEETs.
Or, more subtly, a lack of ability to perceive potential rewards and/or lack of confidence in your ability to earn those rewards. For example, you can't imagine that some activity might pay off, to be able to anticipate the reward, or if you can, you aren't confident that you will manage to earn it, hence why demotivation makes sense.
Personally, I don't have general anhedonia, but I do have "social" anhedonia which makes me unable to enjoy socializing. From observing my own subjective experience, I simply lack this anticipatory feeling and imagination that I get with regular activities. I literally cannot imagine a social situation that would be enjoyable to me or any practical way to realize it, hence the complete social demotivation.
Or, more subtly, a lack of ability to perceive potential rewards and/or lack of confidence in your ability to earn those rewards. For example, you can't imagine that some activity might pay off, to be able to anticipate the reward, or if you can, you aren't confident that you will manage to earn it, hence why demotivation makes sense.
Personally, I don't have general anhedonia, but I do have "social" anhedonia which makes me unable to enjoy socializing. From observing my own subjective experience, I simply lack this anticipatory feeling and imagination that I get with regular activities. I literally cannot imagine a social situation that would be enjoyable to me or any practical way to realize it, hence the complete social demotivation.
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>>236762
Treat every social situation like a socratic dialogue and pwn all of the normalfags at their own game
Treat every social situation like a socratic dialogue and pwn all of the normalfags at their own game
>>236763
This is only appealing if you're into that kind of intellectual posturing. What exactly do I gain by outwitting some random normalfuck? I would only be showcasing my own ignorance at how to play the social game and would be labeled as "that guy" in any group setting. But then, trying to play the actual game also doesn't seem appealing in any way because there is no anticipation of a reward. Do I want them to laugh at my jokes? Do I want their attention as I share intricate details of my life? Do I hope to gain something from befriending them? I can imagine that this is what motivates people, but for me personally, I just cannot perceive any potential from interacting with another person, at least outside of imageboards.
This is only appealing if you're into that kind of intellectual posturing. What exactly do I gain by outwitting some random normalfuck? I would only be showcasing my own ignorance at how to play the social game and would be labeled as "that guy" in any group setting. But then, trying to play the actual game also doesn't seem appealing in any way because there is no anticipation of a reward. Do I want them to laugh at my jokes? Do I want their attention as I share intricate details of my life? Do I hope to gain something from befriending them? I can imagine that this is what motivates people, but for me personally, I just cannot perceive any potential from interacting with another person, at least outside of imageboards.
You gotta try and force youself to do things you used to enjoy, and don't have any expectations. You'll most likely feel like shit the first few times you do it but eventually you should start enjoying that particular activity again.
>>236785
You're calling the one man who managed to piss off every aristocrat in his society an "ultra-normal"? Socrates was a fucking warlock that questioned the reputations of those in power and unveiled how unworthy they were of that power. How is that normal?
You're calling the one man who managed to piss off every aristocrat in his society an "ultra-normal"? Socrates was a fucking warlock that questioned the reputations of those in power and unveiled how unworthy they were of that power. How is that normal?
I wake up, do the menial tasks I have to do, see if any of the channels I'm subscribed to uploaded anything, sometimes gather information on how to commit suicide, then read boards and listen to music in the background until I fall asleep.
i don't, i just have no instinctual need to do anything aside from the instincts that have the strongest hold over me and everyone else, for eg. hunger, i cannot even extract pleasure from playing games, enjoying anime or other forms of art, or going out, or anything really, i spend most of my time browsing imageboards
I'm thinking about becoming an alcoholic
Maybe it will make me numb, and numbness is infinitely better than this
Maybe it will make me numb, and numbness is infinitely better than this
>>236746
a routine of distractions that im convinced are making me a better person, even if i know its not going to help me in life. also, i masturbate.
a routine of distractions that im convinced are making me a better person, even if i know its not going to help me in life. also, i masturbate.
>>240606
It is normie shit I have tried everything even going no tech to try that dopamine fasting and it didn othing but waste my time. The novelty of online, games, etc is fresh again all for maybe 8 hours after not using any technology for months it is honestly a huge waste of time unless you are a normalfag who is addicted to face book.
It is normie shit I have tried everything even going no tech to try that dopamine fasting and it didn othing but waste my time. The novelty of online, games, etc is fresh again all for maybe 8 hours after not using any technology for months it is honestly a huge waste of time unless you are a normalfag who is addicted to face book.
>>241412
it's supposed to be a lifestyle change rather than something you do once and expect everything to be cured
it's supposed to be a lifestyle change rather than something you do once and expect everything to be cured
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>>241412
You need tools. Stop working with rocks.
You need tools. Stop working with rocks.
>>241419
If you are implying drugs I am well aquainted with psychedelics and some of the other drugs there and found they do not fix anything although I am grateful for the help they provide. Drugs do not just solve everything they won't even give you the lessons needed to solve anything in every case.
If you are implying drugs I am well aquainted with psychedelics and some of the other drugs there and found they do not fix anything although I am grateful for the help they provide. Drugs do not just solve everything they won't even give you the lessons needed to solve anything in every case.
>>241415
How is it menat to manifest into a lifestyle change when nothing changed? I was not able to concentrate more it is random with my mind and I am talking serious problems here not your every day /dep/ poster issues that may be helped by no fap and no tech or whatever improvbrah normalfags spout.
Is it not enough I tried? not enough I gavce it a good shot?
How is it menat to manifest into a lifestyle change when nothing changed? I was not able to concentrate more it is random with my mind and I am talking serious problems here not your every day /dep/ poster issues that may be helped by no fap and no tech or whatever improvbrah normalfags spout.
Is it not enough I tried? not enough I gavce it a good shot?
>>241421
sounds,you probably gave it a half-assed attempt to have an excuse not to actually do it
you are in fact the prototypical dep user
sounds,you probably gave it a half-assed attempt to have an excuse not to actually do it
you are in fact the prototypical dep user
>>241422
I was Tedfagging for months and nothing changed. It is not fair to claim anyone who did not benefit from your acetism is not doing it right.
I was Tedfagging for months and nothing changed. It is not fair to claim anyone who did not benefit from your acetism is not doing it right.
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>>241420
You haven't gotten to Phenibut and Amphetamines yet then.
If you keep your doses in check they are great for accomplishing projects LONG-TERM and improving your mood on days when you have to interact with normies.
A few doses helped me study much harder and the artificially increased motivation for that particular project has kept with me for a year now.
Psychedelics are cool, but they are for contemplation instead of direct action.
>>241422
Improve niggers have to go.
You haven't gotten to Phenibut and Amphetamines yet then.
If you keep your doses in check they are great for accomplishing projects LONG-TERM and improving your mood on days when you have to interact with normies.
A few doses helped me study much harder and the artificially increased motivation for that particular project has kept with me for a year now.
Psychedelics are cool, but they are for contemplation instead of direct action.
>>241422
Improve niggers have to go.
>>241424
>'just stop using your computer bro' said the spamming improvetard on an imageboard
Fucking this kek
>>241425
>You haven't gotten to Phenibut and Amphetamines yet then.
I have not used phenibut but I have used amphetamines and no it does not help neither does becoming powerful physically.
Not all of us have problems that can be fixed with your personal cure.
>Psychedelics are cool, but they are for contemplation instead of direct action.
I disagree because hat point is there setting sail without a map? you take some DMT and realize where you need to go and it actually alleviated some of the feelings of depression for some days after.
>'just stop using your computer bro' said the spamming improvetard on an imageboard
Fucking this kek
>>241425
>You haven't gotten to Phenibut and Amphetamines yet then.
I have not used phenibut but I have used amphetamines and no it does not help neither does becoming powerful physically.
Not all of us have problems that can be fixed with your personal cure.
>Psychedelics are cool, but they are for contemplation instead of direct action.
I disagree because hat point is there setting sail without a map? you take some DMT and realize where you need to go and it actually alleviated some of the feelings of depression for some days after.
I just dont get how all of these people in the world have all of this energy to do things. I see these people on discord with their profile pcitures, and they're developers for this gam,e that game, they wen t to this convention, they worked here, they studied there, they've done all of these things. I can barely muster up the energy to create a discord account in the first place (by the way I made an account tojoin a group for a game called SiteKick, an old YTV game from the early 2000s incase anyone has heard of it? Its pretty cool).
Im in my late 20s and just yesterday applied to university because I cant seem t oget a job and having a degree should be immensely helpful (because there's no other way for people to think im capable given I have no body to vouch for me). But today when i checked the application i realized i applied for the wrong damn degree type. I meant to apply for a 4 year, but instead applied for a three year. so that's just another thing ive fucked up in my stupid pointless loser life. meanwhile these zoomers who are way younger than me have all of these contacts and job/volunteer history and i can barely manage to create a f-ing discord account.
Im in my late 20s and just yesterday applied to university because I cant seem t oget a job and having a degree should be immensely helpful (because there's no other way for people to think im capable given I have no body to vouch for me). But today when i checked the application i realized i applied for the wrong damn degree type. I meant to apply for a 4 year, but instead applied for a three year. so that's just another thing ive fucked up in my stupid pointless loser life. meanwhile these zoomers who are way younger than me have all of these contacts and job/volunteer history and i can barely manage to create a f-ing discord account.
>>241445
also let me quickly add to my post that i only joined the discord server as a way to play the game, its in beta testing right now and you need a discord account to apply to be a beta tester
also let me quickly add to my post that i only joined the discord server as a way to play the game, its in beta testing right now and you need a discord account to apply to be a beta tester
>>241445
same. i can't put effort into any job and panick and run at the slightest challenge. i am a broken man uninterested in doing things that require the minimum ammount effort
same. i can't put effort into any job and panick and run at the slightest challenge. i am a broken man uninterested in doing things that require the minimum ammount effort
>>241683
Same I’m 30 and I have zero urgency to do anything. Haven’t worked for 3 years, and I honestly don’t see the point. Every second of every job has been a horrible experience for me
Same I’m 30 and I have zero urgency to do anything. Haven’t worked for 3 years, and I honestly don’t see the point. Every second of every job has been a horrible experience for me
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I just pass time between work and look at my crypto and shit bleed money.
Would love to die in my sleep.
Would love to die in my sleep.
>>241425
I used phenibut several times since last year october, both daily for weeks at first and later for single times with breaks. In retrospect I have to say it's a bad supplement. Yes, it can decrease anxiety, it can increase motivation and enjoyment of things, but it's highly unreliable (the effect kicks in after several hours for me and then can stay for 24 hours) and most of all it creates a weird sense of aloofness. Not the dissociation kind, but the one where the world loses its grasp to your perception, you don't feel a certain richness of details. Also it does not help with cognitive functions and memory if anything those get worse. It's really only help with very low doses and only to alleviate a bit of anxiety. The hedonistic use is terrible especially when using daily, not worth the withdrawals.
I used phenibut several times since last year october, both daily for weeks at first and later for single times with breaks. In retrospect I have to say it's a bad supplement. Yes, it can decrease anxiety, it can increase motivation and enjoyment of things, but it's highly unreliable (the effect kicks in after several hours for me and then can stay for 24 hours) and most of all it creates a weird sense of aloofness. Not the dissociation kind, but the one where the world loses its grasp to your perception, you don't feel a certain richness of details. Also it does not help with cognitive functions and memory if anything those get worse. It's really only help with very low doses and only to alleviate a bit of anxiety. The hedonistic use is terrible especially when using daily, not worth the withdrawals.
>>236758
Do you live in a state/country where weed is legal? If not, how do you get weed as a socially inept autist?
Do you live in a state/country where weed is legal? If not, how do you get weed as a socially inept autist?
>>241787
Not him but I’ve had the good fortune of it being legal where I live, and when I moved away my sister was kind enough to mail some to me occasionally. Also some wizards talk of getting it over mail through darkweb vendors. I haven’t the slightest clue how to get a dealer though.
Not him but I’ve had the good fortune of it being legal where I live, and when I moved away my sister was kind enough to mail some to me occasionally. Also some wizards talk of getting it over mail through darkweb vendors. I haven’t the slightest clue how to get a dealer though.
>>241784
Use, 2 times a week, spaced out at 3 days, at the MAX. It was a great supplement for my manual labor warehouse job, never tried to apply it to thinking intensive tasks or learning. I always took a dose(1.2g) which teeters on euphoria, so I knew that it definitely works when it starts. Any more than that and you risk drooling and passing out.
>>241787
Weed (smoked) is the single most boring thing I've ever done and I've been in the military. It just makes you dumb and slow, yet your motivation stays at the same level, effectively cockblocking you from doing anything other than laying down.
Use, 2 times a week, spaced out at 3 days, at the MAX. It was a great supplement for my manual labor warehouse job, never tried to apply it to thinking intensive tasks or learning. I always took a dose(1.2g) which teeters on euphoria, so I knew that it definitely works when it starts. Any more than that and you risk drooling and passing out.
>>241787
Weed (smoked) is the single most boring thing I've ever done and I've been in the military. It just makes you dumb and slow, yet your motivation stays at the same level, effectively cockblocking you from doing anything other than laying down.
>>241794
> effectively cockblocking you from doing anything other than laying down.
Weed is for when that’s all you wanna do. It’s for relaxing, not motivation.
> effectively cockblocking you from doing anything other than laying down.
Weed is for when that’s all you wanna do. It’s for relaxing, not motivation.
>>241794
1.2 g would knock me out. Although when I took it daily and built up tolerance I could take up to 2 g a day.
1.2 g would knock me out. Although when I took it daily and built up tolerance I could take up to 2 g a day.
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Anhedonia only happens when you're extremely depressed and hopeless.
I can guarantee all of you guys that have "anhedonia" is because you're hopeless with no future prospects, which makes copes useless and seem pointless.
How many of you guys are NEET? I will guess probably at least 90% of you.
I can guarantee all of you guys that have "anhedonia" is because you're hopeless with no future prospects, which makes copes useless and seem pointless.
How many of you guys are NEET? I will guess probably at least 90% of you.
>>241824
There are MANY wageslaves with wives that are depressed and just drink alcohol every chance to try to enjoy the weekend. It is certainly not the fault of being neet
There are MANY wageslaves with wives that are depressed and just drink alcohol every chance to try to enjoy the weekend. It is certainly not the fault of being neet
>>241826
so what are we supposed to do?
>if you wageslave you're trapped
>if you are a NEET you're trapped
what the fuck should we do?
so what are we supposed to do?
>if you wageslave you're trapped
>if you are a NEET you're trapped
what the fuck should we do?
>>241868
Don't listen to that guy, he is a liar. Anhedonia can appear in any kind of life, whether you work or NEET. Actually, wageslaving drains your vitality even more, that is why normals always keep those motivational trainings for wageslaves.
Anhedonia is a sign that you don't know what you want, what you need and what you enjoy. Know thyself, like the greeks said. Step out from your bubble and try new things.
Don't listen to that guy, he is a liar. Anhedonia can appear in any kind of life, whether you work or NEET. Actually, wageslaving drains your vitality even more, that is why normals always keep those motivational trainings for wageslaves.
Anhedonia is a sign that you don't know what you want, what you need and what you enjoy. Know thyself, like the greeks said. Step out from your bubble and try new things.
>>241882
>Anhedonia can appear in any kind of life, whether you work or NEET
Isn't that exactly what the posters before you said?
>Anhedonia can appear in any kind of life, whether you work or NEET
Isn't that exactly what the posters before you said?
Nothing can be done about it I think. Wagies just never have enough time to get bored with their hobbies but everyone would if they pursued them every day for hours.
I've just resigned myself to never having anything positive in my life. Why hope for the impossible? I will live for a little while and then blink out of existence. A good for nothing life.
>>242125
Well that's just what you imagine and it doesn't make any sense. I guess that, if you think like that in the first place, it's because you probably haven't truly been in suffering. The thought of this void after death is probably the last coping mechanism people like us have, it's all we hope for. When i see people here arguing that it's not the case and what not, it feels like they're either whiny normalfags or just wizards with relatively comfortable existences
Well that's just what you imagine and it doesn't make any sense. I guess that, if you think like that in the first place, it's because you probably haven't truly been in suffering. The thought of this void after death is probably the last coping mechanism people like us have, it's all we hope for. When i see people here arguing that it's not the case and what not, it feels like they're either whiny normalfags or just wizards with relatively comfortable existences
People change. Things that interest you one day may not the next. Sometimes the interest never comes back. You can count on some things piquing your interest on occasion but almost never permanently. It can be hard to predict what will be fun, so you have to try things and see what happens. 90% of the time, new hobbies will fail to meet your expectations, so don't break the bank or you will regret it.