>>240717 I'll copy my post then. Is train suicide a good option even if it's a slow train? The thing that always bothered me was the bumper in front of a train. It is also rated as the most painful way to go, I wonder how long you can feel the pain? I really hope it's a good idea to put your neck on the line, I am in a difficult situation and I don't want to theoretize another way of dying again.
>>240719 How slow is the slow train coming? I think you should consider doing it the best way you can because disability would be a cruel fate and it is the most important choice you have in life when ending it. I know the bumbper you are talking about it looks to me like unless you die from impact it will push you out of the way and mangle you. How is train the most painful way where are you getting your statistics you need to be careful because they do not account for people not being retarded like cutting for example has no reason to have such a suicide success rate if it was people doing it to die but that is another topic.
The videos I seen of trains seemed like instant death unless chopped in half I have even contemplated just a fantasy of attaching a long rope to the train and tying to to my neck.
I've read "detergent" suicide was a popular method among teens in Japan it was done by mixing everyday chemical liquids you use for cleaning the house.the article mentions that a post online was spreading with all the informations about it.does anyone here have anything similar? Regarding ctb with those kind of methods
>>240937 >irl friend On my wizchan…. Just let him kill himself everyone would be better off dead maybe fuck off from here if you are a normalfag as well.
My mom just caught me masturbating, with my hands on my dick and porn playing on the computer screen and all of that. I can't express well enough how embarrassed I felt at the moment and I literally froze out of embarrassment for quite a few minutes. I didn't know how to react to that. Then my mom started yelling at me, calling me names and telling how much of a worthless son that she gave birth to that I am. This is the first time I felt like she was genuinely disappointing and mad at me but I don't think it's just based on the fact she caught me on the *act* but because I'm a literal worthless person with no redeeming qualities. I've been NEETing since 2015 and I will become a wizard in two years. I know it's silly to end your life just because your mom saw you masturbating but it's not just that and this moment felt like a culmination that got me thinking into really putting my suicidal thoughts into action.
With that said, what would be the best kind of rope to hang myself? What kind of store I can find one? What would be the ideal length? I'm 170cm/5'7 and 77kg/170lbs. Does the height between the floor and the ceiling matters? Do you think I can set up an end rope between the gaps of these things on the ceiling of my room (pic related)? It's hollow there so it's possible to do a knot even though I don't know how to. I'll probably do it when my parents are not around.
>>240950 >ill probably do it no you won't you do not even know how to hang yourself showing you are not serious and have not done the research. You just want to let off steam because mom mom caught you jerking your wand to some disgusting pornography. You have done 0 research and know nothing at all you will get over this maybe consider not watching pornography of whores.
Here they have a few suggestions for what are you looking for. It's so strange tho ,not the site , everyone i mean suicidal thoughts are here and yet why can't we just go we keep waiting until it's too late to do anything while nothing ever changes
>>240978 We all have our reasons. Some are of course unironcally LARPers, some have things they want to do before, some are not suicidal but are interested in the concept, some are too weak willed or afraid.
>>240978 >why can't we just go we keep waiting until it's too late to do anything while nothing ever changes numb need desire for death to actualize sort of like someone who is too sick to eat so no appetite but knows they need to eat and do what is best for them. Pro tip making yourl ife worse does not make you KYS when numb it just makes everything more fucked.
Will hang myself next month as soon as my dad comes back .no particular reason life has been stagnating in a soulless hole of regrets and self pity last time I enjoyed talking to someone was 4 years ago .
i can't wait to kill myself, i have to wait a few weeks and then a sweet release of death. but it's so unbearable sometimes, i want to do it right now.
>>240717 I'm afraid of what happens after I'm gone. It's completely irrational, much like leaving a note or planning beyond your exit. I can realize that as soon as I die I will not exist from a logical standpoint. I will never exist again, the conxiousness that is me will cease to be never to come back. Everything I have ever thought, seen, heard, laughed or cried about will ammount to that moment. Every test I stressed for in school, every mid day drink will culminate during a calm and silent few minutes in my closet and then I will be no more. Yet I cling on to these thoughts of how my family will grieve, the image of my nephews being told about me, the family riding home in the car from the funeral, my little brother crying. Its so incredibly difficult, guess its part of what makes me human
>>240719 I was thinking about putting a bullet in my head but hanging seems to be a better option because it won't get the loud noise of a gun and it's not as painful as I thought.
Hello, i am disabled and very poor, i don't have a lot of money. How can i do it? I can't do it at home because i live with a lot of people and there's always someone at home. Going outside is hard for me. How can i proceed? Please tell me i don't see an end to this and i'm sick of waiting for all those years.
>>241048 Sometimes I think about it as well. But, my family should know that I failed too many times in life and accept this. Also, I'm planning to go to the woods and make it seems like I was kidnapped or something like that, so they will never know that I killed myself.
It is all so unbearable, being here, the "people" around me, this place where i live, myself, everything, it really is… I just wish I was never born. I simply cannot keep living this life, but I can't find a way to end it, it just makes me even more anxious, everything does. And this weird, horrible feeling that keeps telling me it's never going to end… It feels like I'm trapped in this never-ending spiral of agony
>>241054 Get your hands on some fent off darkweb. Does not take much at all just a few mg. do a larger amount than the LD50 just to be sure. Just lock your door and drift off. Wishing you peace in the life beyond this one
No it’s not, ordering drugs off the dark web is very simple if you just do some basic research. >Very expensive No it’s not. Fentanyl is really cheap, that’s the whole reason it’s such a huge problem, people use it to cut to increase the strength of other opioids that have been cut to dogshit, it’s pretty affordable and if you actually wanted to kill yourself instead of LARPing you wouldn’t care how much it costs
>>241119 There is not a lot of fentanyl in europe, it's not like in the US. You have to buy a lot if you want it. And as stated previously i am poor and i am actually saving money for this request. So yes cost is a matter if i can't afford 500 dollars of something (which is the lowest price i found it at)
>>241060 I'm sorry. If you get rope plenty of people hang themselves, in privacy as that is required to not be 'rescued', at their sturdy front door. A cheap door will break as you move around. You can hang yourself by closing the rope around the top and closing it or just off the handle and wrapping it around your neck, or tying rather. People die on their knees like this but your body will try to stand up on it's own so you have to tie the rope properly and make it sturdy. If you do it right you pass out rather than panic. I'm sure there is a guide somewhere online but I've seen videos of teens doing it and if I were to do it I'd be likely to use a sturdy doorknob if I could not go walking as you can't. Me personally I'd rather jump off a high place or use a train as I currently am though. it's hard to get to high places so the train would probably be it, plus I personally really liked Haibane Renmei.
>>241078 >>241054 A cheap shotgun with a lot of kick sounds like a bad idea and if you don't aim it right into the back of your mouth you could end up blowing your eyes and jaw off and nasal cavity rather than actually damaging the brain. Slamming it into the back of your throat sounds pretty ballsy too, someone that would do that could probably just use a knife something tells me. Fairly unpleasant sounding to slam a tube of metal into the back of your throat hard to die. Then again I have never fired one, perhaps the primers are really sensitive…
>>241119 That's really not how you use the word larp and disabled people might not even be brave enough to use the dark Internet to get drugs out of fear of how much they'd suffer in prison, wherein they do not allow suicide so easily.
>>241171 The noose should tighten as you pull on it so as to choke you out. If you mean fixed as it there'll be room in the throat if your body stands up then that's stupid. You'll likely flop around so much you come off the door and have a damaged neck and maybe even be like Terry Shiloh due to the temporary lack of oxygen. A hangman's noose tightens if you have it around something and you give it a yank.
Takes too much effort to kill yourself I really wish you could go to the doctors and get 30-50-100 pills. One of the pills will kill you and you take one every night and eventually die without thinking about it too much. My SN is probably ruiend as I opened it already like a retard and it seems so much harder to get now.
>>240717 I've just lost at a video game and it was the final straw.
I know this sounds dumb, and that's because it is, but it sounded like a funny experience to talk about at least, so hear me out because it's story time.
I was playing a sports game from my childhood, in which there was a save file i'm picking up from time to time and advancing a little on each playthrough. It was my first time seriously fighting for promotion, which is essentially going from a lower division to a higher one, only the first 3 teams make it, and it was a tight race, the last match of the season came and to me it was the final one of this game for me in general, this career would be finished regardless if it ended well or not, but naturally ending on a high note was most desirable, there were chances of me being the champion, and chances of not even being promoted at all, everything was at stake.
Luckily for me the game started off with my team winning comfortably, and that would likely give me the title, but then close to the end, and after losing many easy chances to settle it, suddently i'm not winning anymore, and in the last few seconds, defeat, and my team missed on promotion.
The last few days have already been rough, and my suicidal thoughts are in my head for hours everyday, sleeping is difficult, staying awake is difficult, doing tasks is impossible, and most things that matter to me are going wrong, and then this, which was supposed to be an enjoyable part of life, which was already hard for me to even get the motivation to start playing in the first place, since plugging my console on feels like a chore to me, as stupid as that sounds, it not only made me sad, but it felt like it tried to make it as painful as possible on purpose, it felt like a sick joke.
Honestly this kind of settled it for me, my outlook on life in general is already very negative, as far as i'm concerned we spend most time working on jobs that make us miserable, tired and stressed, only to afford to continue living and repeating this process, and then the parts of life that are supposed to be enjoyable, our hobbies, suddently are making me miserable too, my local team from real life is sucking, on video games i'm sucking and feel miserable when losing, and just slightly happy when winning, for a moment, before feeling empty and not even caring anymore about it, drawing which is something that mattered to me just feels boring and stupid and even annoying at times.
I'm tired, this day settled it for me, nothing is fun anymore and everything makes me sad in one way or another, i'm done.
I've got a few exams coming up in the following weeks, and i'm procrastinating my studies a lot, it's just unbearable to me because i'm a lazy and worthless human, but passing on them meant that i'd go to the next semester with my class, which are ok people so it's nice being with them, but honestly at this point not studying and just dropping out when my failing grades come sounds a lot more appealing, it'll give me the motivation to finally leave this hellhole where pretty much everything sucks.
I know this sounds stupid and childish, but cut me some slack, i'm already miserable enought as it is.
>>241253 Sometimes I wonder how many people would kill themselves when everyone was given a lethal, painless pill at the age of 18 or 21 that you'd get anonymously just by writing a standard formula to your doctor or a public institution sending it discretely to your home.
>>241315 Football Manager? I like sports games too. Don't beat yourself up over it. I tried playing GTA IV the other day and I sucked so fucking bad at it LOL. Losing your ability at vidya can be a blessing in disguise
>>241340 Almost got it, it was the same sport, just a different game, PES, Master League mode to be more specific.
I know it's just a game and i shouldn't beat myself over it, but that's exactly what bugged me tbh, when it was over all i did was look at the screen, speechless, and think: "Even in something as meaningless as this, things have to go wrong in the most miserable way possible, it feels like a joke".
>>241349 Stuff like that happens to me too a lot in sports games they just have artifical difficulty spikes to keep you playing longer. Like in Madden franchise mode when you start 6-2 and end 8-8 with a stacked team. You rage and then a year or 2 later you win the Super Bowl. Also have had crazy chokes in soccer games like you described. Don't get suicidal over it
>>241350 I know, it's not really a matter of me getting suicidal over it, i'm already suicidal by default, it's just that even when the things that were supposed to be the good and relaxing parts of life let me down, it feels depressing.
I have a doctors appointment tomorrow to get a check-up on my eyes. They will probably tell me I need an operation or something. I know I'm fucked. This has been my worst nightmare for 10 years even back when my eyesight was perfect.
Afterwards I will throw myself off a bridge. I can't go on anymore.
I have the means to instantly end my life. It is comforting to know I always have a way out but sitting there with that shotgun barrel pointed at my brain stem activates that primitive fear of pain.
Mom has has terminal cancer, seems to run in her family heavily. I really don't know what to do. She is my last surviving parent. I guess suicide is in the works. I'm surprised how little emotion I have. I get emotional easily, but now there is nothing. On the off chance I don't off myself, is there any hope for a late 30s neet with no job experience? I think my brain has been fried good and proper from highly emotionally driven anime and hardcore pornagrapghy. I will go charcoal grill method, I guess. Anyone experiment with it, I remember reading the headaches/nausea are so bad a lot of people who attempt using that method end up bailing. Maybe if I combine with asprin + sleeping pills? I just don't know anymore.
>>241484 Assisting somebody in suicide is highly illegal and will get these clowns sued to oblivion by the grieving families, which is why its a simple scam that wont really do much. Moreover even if it did work you would instinctively rip that mask of your face and take deep breathes, if you tie yourself up beforehand you will panic and die quite painfully struggling against your own restraints as you hyperventilate with the nitrogen. There is no easy way to die, and if you are looking for the easy way you arent willing to kill yourself anyway. How come a dumb succubi that got cheated on by her boyfriend of six months jumps in front of a train while the oh so suicidal wizards cant even shoot themselves in the head.
>>241671 Because normgroids are slaves to their emotions. A lot of people, especially succubi, will do extremely stupid shit just because of intense emotion. Of course I am still human but I at least try to act rationally at most times. Whenever I am angry at someone I at least try my best to go over the situation from a neutral standpoint (of course my mind will always be scewed in my favor) whereas I've seen people angry at others without even fully understanding why. Wizzards usually live fairly uneventful lives so when a wizzard suicides it's something he has most likely considered and pondered over for years whereas the normgroid just got dumped, fired, e.t.c. and in one quick motion in a fit of rage put a gun to their head and fire. Almost certaintly they could have recovered their lives, normgroid suicides are usually irrational and impulsive. That is why, not because they have more resolve but because wizards just don't live eventful enough lives to warrant extreme peaks that result in impulsive actions like suicide.
>>241671 >There is no easy way to die, and if you are looking for the easy way you arent willing to kill yourself anyway. Pulling a trigger and putting a bullet in your brain seems pretty easy
>>241692 I obviously haven't killed myself, but all it takes is a split second of doing faster than thinking to get past your survival instinct and it's all over before you realize what you did
I'm thinking about it every day recently. I still can't tell if I'm just playing a psychological game with myself. I think I'm too much of a coward to ever do it. Hanging seems to be the most reasonable method given what's available here. If I could guarantee I'd pass out quickly and not end up braindead I'd be very tempted.
In all likelihood I'll just continue to wallow in misery and absolute boredom until nature takes its course
Anybody else unable to access lostallhope.com? I've been getting a 403. Tried refreshing, clearing cache, cookies, etc. Guy was turning into a giant preachy douche, did he pull the plug on the most useful site ever?
planning on attempting tonight. I have a rope and booze and am going to practice partial suspension hanging. if it goes well, i might be dead tomorrow. The rope i have is slightly small, and i dont have oil to make it easier to adjust pressure. but its decent and could workl. Anyways im doing it because im a pedophile and a secret murderer and now everyone found out and wants me dead, including you guys. Whelp. I liked you guys anyways…Good luck with the ladies and such
Im planning on jumping off a bridge in a week or so to end it all.My life has been on a downward spiral for years and its not going to get any better.My pain will be over soon.
I know that overdoses are unreliable but isn't that mostly because of taking the wrong drug or not taking enough? Shouldn't an enormous dose of intravenous heroin work? As much as it's possible to inject. You could swallow a lot too before because it takes a while to work when you eat it so it'll come when you have already injected. Maybe you could swallow a handful of benzos washed down with alcohol too.
>>242095 I don't get how that works. I hear about people killing themselves by tying a rope - or even a towel in the case of hide - to a doorknob. How does it even stay hooked there?
>>242097 that's my guess. or worse, loli guro or traps fucking animals. if my mom caught me jacking it to a loli succubus that's getting her throat ripped out by a wolf that's fucking her, i'd be pretty down in the dumps about it.
>>242142 The vast majority of overdoses are done by idiots that just want attention.
Swallowing things often doesnt work because you can just vomit. Anti-emetics can make that less likely. >Shouldn't an enormous dose of intravenous heroin work? yes that is foolproof. You could also just snort it or even better would be fentanyl
Today is the day I do it, I'm going to hang myself in my garage. It's currently almost 2 am here and my mom is still awake. I have to wait for her to go to bed and then bring a ladder we own to the garage without waking her up. It will be kind of hard because I have to go through a corridor which is next to the room she sleeps in. If I don't reply to this thread within 8 hours saying I failed it means I succeeded.
>>242166 I made a lot of noise and woke my mom up. I made up an excuse and said I was moving it to the garage because it was in the way. I always stay up late so it wasn't too weird. I will try again in a couple of days.
>>242181 for the love of God don't kill yourself. You can always find some sort of joy in your life if you live, when you're dead you're dead forever. Please hang in there. Don't kill yourself anon, please. Tomorrow is a new day and things dont have to be bad forever. Your life can always get better if you live but it can't if you die. For fucks sake dont kill yourself anon, please.
>>242181 For the hate of demiurge, kill yourself. You can never find any joy in life if you live, when you're dead you're dead and at peace forever. Please hang yourself. Kill yourself anon, please. Tomorrow is a new day and things will be even worse. Your life can always get worse if you live but it can't if you die. For fucks sake kill yourself anon, please.
>>242277 There are no gods, imbecile, nor is this facebook or reddit for you to farm worthless goodboy points. Everyone has a right to die if they so choose and nothing will ever change that. This is a realm of suffering and death is the only reprieve - trying to take that away is the ultimate evil.
>>242296 >>242297 Going to therapy and admitting you're suicidal sounds like a surefire way to be involuntarily committed to a mental institution and have your Second Amendment rights taken away forever, at least if you're American.
>>242278 because no one wants to truly kill themselves, they just want to stop pain and as such they use suicide as a proxy for pain relief. 90% of suicides are by someone that has been clinically diagnosed with a mental illness. When you're mentally ill you can't think straight, no offense but it's just how it goes, it's akin to being drunk without knowing it and it clouds your thought unnecessarily. So I over emphasized my plea so that I'd be taken seriously instead of a simple low effort "don't do it". We all deserve to be happy (except pedophiles) so why would someone encourage someone else to kill themselves knowing change is possible? You don't have to be depressed all your life, you know that right wizzie?
>>242280 good thing no one fucking asked you then. I'm perfectly aware this isnt a normie website but that doesn't allow you to act like a crab and try and pull everyone down when they want to climb up. There are resources and ways to deal with problems that do not envolve suicide
>>242306 How do you know it isn't you who isn't thinking straight? Can you actually logically justify why life is better than death? You probably only value life over death because your animal instincts say so, not because life is objectively good.
>>242338 Animal instincts are not enough for faggots like you that need a spreadsheet to make a decision. You will never be able to calculate good vs bad, not in the present moment, let alone the possible futures. Either something inside you wants to live or it doesn't, fuck off with this logic shit, you sound like a reddit atheist.
>>242306 you're actually fucking disgusting. stop pretending you care, stop acting like you're better than people here, like you know more about their lives than themselves, and as if anyone needed your over-used, shallow and cringe-worthy motivational speeches, these only work for pseudo-depressive, whiny normals sunk in blissful ignorance incapable of realizing how privileged they are
>>242361 All that anger stems from being hurt. What are you hurting about? I know it's not me since you've never met me and a simple comment isn't enough to get that hurt. You know, some people actually become happy again after a long depression. You only have one life (as far as we know) so why live it all being filled with hate and despair? However serious and pain inducing your problem may be there are solutions. We ought to at least make a serious continuous effort to be happy, instead of sulking and embracing being miserable when you have that slightest feeling you could be happy. Now I know you'll be more angry about what I'm typing and you'll have a fit of rage along with the usual crab rethoric "you're never gonna make it bla bla bla, you're a failed normie, bla bla" Choose to believe you can be happy not the opposite. Yes it takes effort. But at least try to.
>>242374 >low effort crab like comment There are other things in life besides sex or relationships. Don't become so unidimensional you only see those things in your sight.
>>242373 There isn't some magical 'will'. We are slaves to causality. Nobody chooses to suffer, it is complete stupid nonsense to say you activate a 'make effort to be happy' switch. Your logical mind seems to be poisoned by irrational bullshit
>>242388 That's a complete misinterpretation of what was said. I never said just believe you'll be happy and you will, I said that you must first believe it is possible for it to be able to happen. If you embrace negative thoughts and foster them the chances of getting out of that nefarious routine are lower than if you believe that while you may be facing a certain hardship you can be happy again. Don't misintrerpret things. You must make an effort to be happy but you never a guarantee of anything. However the chances of becoming happy if you believe you can and actually try to are substantially higher than if you believe you can't and never make an effort towards it. We are not slaves to causality that's complete nonsense. >>242389 people use suicide as proxy for pain relief, what people want is not the ending of their lives but rather the end of pain. Hence the statement is completely accurate.
>>242390 are you a Christian? The only way i can imagine someone have this twisted view of reality is that you are some sort of insane religion freak.
You aren't your own first cause. Your actions are determined by your brain chemistry, upbringing, genetics, and chaos or randomness etc. There is no space for a spiritual mechanism where you can magically 'activate the effort switch'. All humans naturally do what seems like the best action based on what information they have; informing that someone should 'make effort' does not change any of the information that determines human actions.
>>242393 What the fuck are you on about? You're implying no one has free will which isn't true. When you go to the supermarket and you get a six pack of diet coke, 3 frozen pizzas and a case of beer to match you are actively making choices. No one is forcing you to choose to have an unhealthy diet. You are first and foremost the person that most cares about your individual success or happiness. There are certain choices you can make that according to science make you more likely to be happy instead of not. It is under your field of action to choose between a healthy and an unhealthy diet, having a stable or unstable sleep routine, choosing to exercise or have a sedentary lifestyle all things of which impact your mood and the way you perceive things. There are countless studies on this by people with far more education on the matter than you or me. People that devoted their lives to improve our understanding on these topics. In conclusion it is not so that you can't do anything to be happy and you're just a pawn of some 4D chess game being manipulated due to some obscure reason.
>>242395 You don't tell me what to do and ignore my comments how about that instead. Your low effort crab like comments bring nothing into this conversation. I presume you and others just want to shoot down anyone that tries to convey a positive message because fundamentally you're scared that you're somehow not doomed to be miserable all your life despite having believed so. You're scared of change and you don't want to make an effort to become better. You're just resigned into a defeatist attitude in which you prefer to bask in daily mental pity parties instead of doing something to improve your own situation.
>>242396 This is my first post in any of the suicide threads. It doesn't take a bright mind to realise that your pontificating might not exactly be well received on a thread dedicated to suicide, on a board about depression. Most people here have probably lost count of how many times they have heard all that. If you want to feel better about yourself and help someone go do some volunteering or something, though I suspect that you are mostly here for the former, just like every improvebrah with a messiah complex.
>>242398 You're implying I don't feel good about myself which matter of fact I do. The number of days in which I don't feel good is small in comparison to those in which I either feel neutral or happy. So your statement is false I'm not here because I want to feel better about myself by trying to help other people. This is not about me at all. But I can relate to your posts because I too have been depressed in the past. Clinically diagnosed, none of that self diagnosed bullshit. Although you might be right that some of the advice I gave isn't new I also believe that despite it's efficacy it isn't followed by most. Or in other words while the aforementioned advice works in some way (it won't suddenly make you very happy every day but it helps in being happy or at least less sad) most people here still either smoke or have unhealthy diets and unstable diets with sedentary lifestyles. It's crucial to find something you like to do preferably outside as well. My hobby is photography and it fulfills me a lot. I don't share my photos with anyone but I feel great during and after the process. There is always SOMETHING you can do and most people just want to be told there ISN'T ANYTHING. I'm not here on a messiah complex or whatever bullshit you might believe, I mostly lurk but I had to say something in this thread.
>>242394 >When you go to the supermarket and you get a six pack of diet coke, 3 frozen pizzas and a case of beer to match you are actively making choices. In the conscious experience, those choices are made by considering certain factors. Maybe you could inform someone about the sugar content of beer and then they could change their decision. However, saying 'make effort' is literally meaningless and contributes nothing toward trying to convince someone to change their decision. It is automatic that people do their very best to try be happy enough to not kill themselves.
>>242405 that's not automatic at all. most people make no serious effort to be happy (again) because as the word implies it isn't easy to do it. It takes quite literally effort to not buy a six pack of diet soda and just get regular water instead or not buying frozen pizzas and getting lean meat with a side of broccoli. If all people on this board followed at least the advice on that comment there would be less people on this board. There is always something you can do and believing the opposite is quite frankly being defeatist.
>>242403 >I had to say something in this thread. No you do not, and do not get upset over getting called out for your attitude. You can always hide this thread and ignore it and its content. I doubt anybody here is asking for your help, and if they do you can take it elsewhere.
>>242407 you see posts like yours are highly ironic because if you truly believe in what you're saying you wouldn't make that comment either. and if my comments help at least 1 person that reads them they're worthwhile.
>>242408 I do believe that unsollicited platitudes are worthless, yes. And I also am convinced from experience that preachers on imageboards are definitely not nearly as benevolent as they claim to be.
>>242409 you can believe whatever rocks your boat just as I can comment what I want provided it isn't against the site rules. I have every legitimacy to post here.
What's amusing though is to think you might genuinely talk anyone into not killing themselves when an infinitesimal number will go through with it. There was this guy from the Netherlands I think? You're like a guy walking into a bar telling of the dangers of alcoholism. Thanks for nothing.
>>242408 >>242403 Where do you get this idea that you're "helping" people by trying to stop them from offing themselves? If anything, the most effective way to help people is by encouraging them to do it.
>>242418 There are many people that are obsessed with trying to manipulate people into staying alive. Discussion about suicide is even directly censored on all mainstream social media such as reddit. Suicide is one of the most common causes of death, but suicides are suppressed from the media.
It is a powerful taboo. People cling to life in fear, partly because they suffer and are trying to convince themselves that life is worth living. They are afraid of facing the question because it is so incredibly primal. There actually is no argument against suicide, so they try to make it an extreme unquestionable fact that people should keep living. It's like there is a pathway behind them but they are so afraid that they would never even look at it in case they were seduced to go inside.
>>242424 I really dont know why you wizkids get so upset over people trying to help you. >life is not worth living Billions think its worth living, billions have bigger problems than you and millions decide to hold on to life even in the face of a deadly disease, disabilities or tragedies because they think life is worth living.
I mean you can always just dismiss all of humanity of today and yesterday as "foolish" but I think experience is overwhelmingly pointing to you being the one trying to convince himself of something. The effort is wasted on a helpless misanthrope like you, but I think there are a lot of people here and have been over the years who would appreciate some uplifting words, anecdotes from people who struggle the same fight as them and advice on how to get out that self pity hole.
P.S. People who actually want to die dont post on suicide threads or sites, they wave you goodbye like any other day and the next they you hear they shot themselves, and everybody is just left behind wondering what happened. There is not a single society I know of where this was acceptable behavior and while its not evil, I think the concept of sin encompasses it very well.
>>242441 Whole response is wrong but just to focus in: there are loads of people who would terminate their existence if they didn't have to face the self preservation instinct, honed over 500 million years of evolution. It's an animal reaction to death which remains strong even in those who would prefer to go to sleep and not wake up. In other words, if people had a button which could painlessly terminate existence, plenty would press it. Suicide is not that button, as it triggers involuntary panic and distress.
People who want to die post on suicide threads all of the time - a Dutch guy killed himself semi recently here, and that's just an example of someone who talked about their process to the end. Many more leave a few comments and then disappear, having gone off and done it.
>>242441 >Billions have bigger problems than you they quite literally don't >millions decide to hold on to life even in the face of a deadly disease, disabilities or tragedies because they think life is worth living i would much rather my main issue in life to be some disease or tragedy than to be stuck in this spiral of mental agony, this struggle to not lose my sanity i have to go through every single day
i understand why you come here and act inconsiderate as that, it's because you have no idea how insufferable existence can actually be even if the situation may seem comfortable on the outside. you're normal and i think you should be really glad for that
Just dropped in to say this >>242441 poster said some serious truths. While I don't agree with considering suicide as sin, I agree that most people here don't want to die actually and they are just roleplaying. It is another kind of attention-whoring, they simply use wizchan isntead of social media.
>>242447 >a Dutch guy killed himself Literally the only example I can think of in all my years of using this site and its variations. The vast majority of wizchan-dep posters will never kill themselves. And they don't really want to die either, they just hate their current situation in life. If their lives magicially fixed themselves suddenly they would be the happiest and most pro-life persons on this planet. >self-preservation instinct Good but what about those people who do kill themselves? It is obvious that this instinct isn't so omnipotent as you would like everyone to think it is. Another excuse at the end of the day.
>>242453 >they don't have bigger problems >i would much rather my main issue in life to be some disease or tragedy than to be stuck in this spiral of mental agony, this struggle to not lose my sanity i have to go through every single day
All right, you can fuck off now. This is the prime example of someone who is so absorbed in his own self-pity that he doesn't notice anything in this world. It is objective truth that there are many in worse situations than your priviledged ass, shut the fuck up seriously. People suffering from poverty, hunger, diseases, wars don't know true suffering, but you do? Yeah, ok.
>>242454 >If their lives magicially fixed themselves suddenly they would be the happiest and most pro-life persons on this planet. I understand what you mean but this is such a non-argument. "if I were a different person I would be a different person". yeah ok.
>>242454 Why the fuck are you still here bothering us. You need to fuck off, holy shit, there's really no escape for people like us, even in wizchan of all places normies still come and try to judge and corner people, it's actually insane
>>242456 That's what normies do. Even in the most peaceful little hideouts and crevices they will stuff their fat necks in and shout out their stupid useless "advice".
There is no way to make them shut up except with a gun. More and more people are realizing that across schools in America.
>>242454 >And they don't really want to die either, they just hate their current situation in life. Like another wizzy here said "If I were a different person I'd be a different person". I want to be dead as the chance of me ever attaining happiness are so slim that it is not worth all the suffering to get someplace I most likely will never arrive to. I have had very little money, I've had a lot of money. I have been places and done things. I am still me, still wishing I did't live. I want to be dead, but I don't want to kill myself. If I wanted to kill myself I have the means to do so easily. I still have things that I want to do, suicide general isn't just for "I want to commit suicide, how to??" but human mortality and suicide can be discussed. >Good but what about those people who do kill themselves? Most suicide are based on extreme reactions. Someone finds their partner cheating, someone lost his job or family. In desperation while crying screaming shoot himself in the head. It's a lot harder when your every day life has no real highs or lows, same thing every day. To commit suicide when you're completely at your senses is a lot harder (of course still very much possible). > All right, you can fuck off now. This is the prime example of someone who is so absorbed in his own self-pity that he doesn't notice anything in this world. It is objective truth that there are many in worse situations than your priviledged ass, shut the fuck up seriously. People suffering from poverty, hunger, diseases, wars don't know true suffering, but you do? Suffering is very subjective. Fucking "starving african kids" cliché on wizchan in 2021. Absolute state, what else can I say?
>>242455 It is an argument, simply because you don't know what will happen in the future or even tomorrow. You could end up enjoying life unexpectedly. But ofc, it is easier to generalize things and proclaim that all kinds of life are shit. At least be honest and say that your own life sucks. >starving african children cliché It is reality, friend. Most of the world has way shittier life conditions and situations than you or me can imagine.
>>242456 I see no rules about how only pretentious pessimists are allowed to post here. So I post. Some people do think differently than you, crazy, right?
>>242470 >I don't want to kill myself >I still have things that I want to do Do I need to say anymore? Just think about the things you wrote yourself, really. A person who truly wants to die doesn't speak like you do at all. >To commit suicide when you're completely at your senses is a lot harder You are basically saying that people who have no reason to off themselves find it hard to commit suicide. Fantastic. Again, your own words are against you. >Suffering is very subjective. Fucking "starving african kids" cliché on wizchan Not everything is subjective like you were raised to believe. Some things objectively suck more and cause more suffering, regardless of who you are. You want me to believe that your meme existential crisis makes you suffer more than poverty, constant physical pain/sickness or hunger would torture you? Yes, this is why this board is a fucking joke. Please while you are deluding yourself explain to us why you suffer so much more than people who live in war-zones and totalitarian dictatures.
>>242441 >I really dont know why you wizkids get so upset over people trying to help you. The entire internet is full of people attacking and censoring any critical discussion of suicide. Everyone has heard your bullshit parroted before. Just fuck off and let people talk about what they want since it is one of the only places where ideas outside of 'don't do it' are permitted.
Your argument here was purely Argumentum ad populum, extremely pathetic, especially when evolution trivially creates that by using survival and reproduction as the selection mechanism. You clearly have nothing to offer in the way of any real argument.
>>242479 You mean your suicide idealizing circlejerk and hivemind isn't pathetic? Talking about suicide and never doing it, meanwhile most people who in reality kill themselves are normalfags, must hurt, right? I consider suicide a normalfag thing since obviously most wizards never go through with it. It is more wizardly to suffer through life.
>>242483 Not the poster you replied to, but I hope that wasn't a general attack against wizards.
Not all of us are against suicide ideologically. I for one support euthanasia and I have considered it on many occassions. Sadly it's illegal in my country.
>>242477 >It is reality, friend. Most of the world has way shittier life conditions and situations than you or me can imagine. It's a meaningless platitude. For every bad situation on earth we can imagine something worse. >Hey starving kid in africa, don't do it, don't you know there are people in hospital wards with 3rd degree burns where every moment is unending agony? >What, you're being tortured? You think THAT'S bad, well the guy next to you is being DOUBLE TORTURED. Try to have some perspective! If someone is suffering and wants to call it quits, hearing that there is someone out there who has it worse is no consolation whatsoever, never has been, all that matters is your own feeling of suffering regardless of how benign it might appear to a normie onlooker in the grand scheme of things.
Heard this from my family all my life. If anything it just makes me want to die even more. If I was in pure survival mode only worried about day to day life getting through the days I would probably be content and would not entertain suicide. As Ecclesiastes says, more knowledge brings more grief.
Since when did you need to win Olympic gold in suffering to justify committing suicide? What a dumb opinion. It's like I'm reading Reddit suicide watch where assholes farm karma by telling perfect strangers not to follow through and that they love them. Empty words only meant to make themselves look better. People have told me I think life sucks merely because of my perspective, but really they only think life is good because they choose to ignore the endless suffering of everyone else. Give yourself a pat on the back for potentially "saving" somebody from suicide by guilting them into continuing to endure a shit existence LOL.
>>242535 Don't kill yourself bro. Someday when you hit 31 years of age, you too will receive a substantial inheritance from some old geezer. And then you will see that life really is worth living (because I said so).
>>242477 >THERE ARE PEOPLE IN MORE SUFFERING THAT YOU THAT MEANS YOURE NOT REALLY SUFFERING read >>242500 Those starved kids in africa are practically living in heaven if you compare it to what hisashi ouchi lived trough. His every moment alive was pure agony, nothing but pain. They couldnt really keep him hydrated because the water would leak out of his skin. Does this mean the suffering of people in africa doesnt mean anything? Or is it just another case of you normalfags looking at people in horrible sitations to feel better about yourselves? >Do I need to say anymore? Just think about the things you wrote yourself. Nice non argument. I just told you I'm not suicidal you fucking retard. >You want me to believe that your meme existential crisis makes you suffer more than poverty, constant physical pain/sickness or hunger would? Never claimed that, physically they're suffering way worse but read above. There are hunter gatherers who die at 40, don't have medicine and and live almost entirely of meat. Yet they live completely happy lives. As I said, I've been very poor before but situations like that rarely drive people towards suicide because they are overcomeable chellenges. You mean to tell me rich people never have a reason to commit suicide? >Yes, this is why this board is a fucking joke Go somewhere else then. Preferably back to r9k or discord
>>242504 As a rule of thumb I don't value breeder opinions. They're like those drowning people that pull others underwater. My parents' opinions I don't value especially. I know my dad and I know my mom, the only reason I'm alive is because you wanted to bump uglies and church said it's wrong to use protection. That's it.
>>242500 It isn't a meaningless platitude, only from your nihilistic and ultra-relativistic point of view. Some people suffer more than others. Starving people objectively suffer, you still need to elaborate in what way you suffer more than those people. Succubi rejecting you and not having friends isn't something I would consider as true suffering by any means. You are playing with words but you know I am right and that people here have it quite well, that is why they never come through with their promises/threats of suicide. And no, you are wrong on the last part too. Seeing people in real trouble and having real problems often makes you realize how good you have it in life and how stupid you were.
>>242535 Apparently you don't find this existence so shit since you are posting here even now instead of working on that suicide.
>>242537 The man you describe and starving kids in Africa both suffer or suffered but I have yet to understand in what way you suffer or other people in this thread. Having diseases or starving are actual problems, most of the people posting here don't have any actual problems besides being male friendless virgins. You continue evading the subject, playing with words and relativizing everything. Oh you aren't suicidal, good for you. Though you appear to be overly emotional about this topic. Maybe because what I write is true? >they are overcomeable challenges Yes, fuck off once more. You think poverty is easier to overcome than your meme existential crisis? Haha, good one. Rich people rarely have a good reason to commit suicide in my eyes, the ones who commit suicide are far up in their anuses like you and don't realize how unimportant their problems are. >back to r9k or discord Hurts to have some objective opinion on the subject, right? This isn't your personal echo chamber. I am interested in how delusional people like you can get so I will stay and see.
>>242555 >durr you still alive. checkmate. It's pretty retarded to keep assuming everyone who disagrees with your moral grandstanding is suicidal or using suicide to seek attention. Your true intentions become clear by trying to egg me on to commit suicide, that you want power over someone by dominating them or forcing them to rely on you. You are a real deluded piece of shit and aren't doing anything to help anybody except yourself by stroking your own gay ego.
>>242555 While I agree that "physical" suffering is the worst, being low social status is very stressful for social animals like ourselves and having zero sexual experience as a not so young anymore male puts you pretty much at the bottom. Social exclusion meant death so it's obvious that we evolved to have a strong reaction to it to try to deal with it, but at least now it is often maladaptive and makes you worse off. You can measure low status individuals in groups having higher stress levels and being a social loser/virgin easily gives you reduced happiness comparable to large income differences.
>>242557 I'm not the other poster, I never said I want to help you. I know from experience that common sense and rationality are things that are alien to people in your state of mind. You have to learn the hard way. Or die trying. Heh.
>>242560 >I'm not the other poster, just another clown continuing a stupid line of argument Wow, that's functionally so much different! I don't feel like killing myself yet anyway. I just don't like the faggot attitude that suicidal people need saviors and they are the last thing this thread needs. Getting told to fuck off and crying about hugboxes is dumb, too. You and whoever else can go to real hugboxes on any other site dealing with the subject and farm upvotes and pretend like you aren't walking turds.
>>242562 I don't care if you kill yourself or not, though I dislike this pretentious circlejerk that worships suicide here. So there are no votings here but there is a hivemind that goes full autism the minute someone disagrees with it. Suicide is the meme around here and you will get "upvotes" from other posters if you portray yourself as some faggot who finds even breathing and taking a shit a painful suffering. Grow up, people.
>>242559 These things are only important so long as you think they are important. Once you stop caring about normals and their society it won't bother you anymore. In fact, this life in many ways is more fun and enjoyable than the normalfag life.
>>242567 Whining is what this entire board is for and you can hide it if it pisses you off so badly, but you get your rocks off on being mindlessly contrarian. You're pretty goddamn stupid to think anyone wants to hear about how life isn't so bad in the designated suicide thread. >no ur reddit not me lol
>>242567 >In fact, this life in many ways is more fun and enjoyable than the normalfag life.
Only if you have money like that inheritance-wiz. Otherwise it's just pure suffering piled on top of more suffering.
Wizard life can't truly be enjoyable unless you're free from the shackles of wageslavery on top of all the other shit making life intolerable.
Sure, I'd be a thousand times happier if I could live in a comfortably sized house or apartment, could afford a decent car, and could afford to eat whatever I want whenever I want.
But it's never going to happen. I'm going to be a prisoner in my 300sqft jail cell because I'm physically disabled and there are no "online jobs" to improve my living standards with.
Once you realize this, you understand why suicide is sometimes a valid choice. It's a way to say 'fuck it' to the RNG that gave you such horrible attributes during this round of life.
Maybe the next round I'll get luckier. Maybe not. Who knows.
>>242393 >There is no space for a spiritual mechanism where you can magically 'activate the effort switch' of course theres space for it, its everywhere you havent looked, that is if were really talking about magic here. it cant be known whether things exist only when they are observed so it could be that when things arent observed they arent set in stone. so theoretically you could change your brain chemicals by a magic force of will, and thats what i assume is the case. you can say thats a foolish assumption but you cant say that its completely wrong.
>>242659 Observe common sense (no suicide letters, don't tell anyone no matter what, don't suddenly withdraw all your money from the bank, etc.) and proceed to ram a knife into your throat. It is genuinely that simple.
Add in some quick research about suicide, and for maximum effectiveness stab your carotids and twist the knife before pulling it out. With adrenaline and/or shock you can get both before pain even kicks in, and by then there's no saving you unless you're a fucking retard and failed to observe common sense or don't actually want to die and thus deserve no better than what you'll get.
Is it possbily to OD on any of these medications? Last time I tried suicide I failed and survived so now I'm basically watched over very carefully so I cant suicide normal ways
Imagine jumping in front of a train and surviving and spending the rest of your life mangled, pissing through tubes, busted out teeth, missing limbs, in a chair, worst of all now you REALLY can't end it because you can't walk on your own and everyone knows your intentions.
According to this it happens to half of the people who try.
>>242805 Inflated numbers to get more taxbux. Actually being hit by a train is significantly more likely to kill you than the numbers reflect as the vast, vast majority of suicide attempters never even make it on to the track. Subways especially are deadly as they are still top speed by the time they first enter the station, there's no room for your body to fly out and away from the train once hit, it's going to stop right on top of you preventing medical response, and older metros might still have the power delivery through the tracks which will barbecue you. >Broader data comparisons are complicated by a 2016 change in how the TTC records suicide attempts. That year, the agency revealed last week, it began to also count those apprehended for going to track level with suicidal intent, even if they weren’t hit or nearly hit by a train. Another wrinkle is that the TTC does not have access to subsequent medical data of people who are hit, so the agency does not know how many of those who lived long enough to leave the station survived what are usually catastrophic injuries. >Just going there and then telling your psychiatrist later on that you considered an heroing by train is a failed train suicide attempt in the TTC's book
The TTC line includes the Bloor viaduct bridge which is a hotspot for suicide "attempts". Anyone who jumps off and lands in the netting is carried to hospital unhurt and is chalked up as a survived suicide case utilizing Toronto Transit.
good day, i was wondering if any of you have information on killing yourself with a car. It seems like a fun method
I read that the chance to die is nearly 100% at over 70mph but thats probably bullshit. And I'm thinking there may be ways to eliminate chance of failure by perhaps attaching sharp objects to yourself in such a way that they are thrust against you, or setting yourself on fire before you crash
>>242809 Avoid the highways. They're lined with purpose-built fixtures for minimizing driver fatalities. the curb in the picture you posted is angled perfectly to deflect a fast moving vehicle back in to the lane. No driving over stuff like in GTA. >And I'm thinking there may be ways to eliminate chance of failure by perhaps attaching sharp objects to yourself in such a way that they are thrust against you There's an image circulation the web of some succ who glued stones to her steering wheel right on top of the airbag for some astrology bs. Auto engineers stepped in and stated that the speed at which the bag expands would be enough to send the stones in to her body with lethal velocity, not unlike and anti-personnel mine. Would be funny to try out. Otherwise, newer models might refuse to turn on if the airbags have been deployed, but if not then disabling them would be a big contributor to your death. If you secure your neck tightly to the seat's headrest with a strong cord and disregard the seatbelt, you might be able to decapitate yourself on impact. Metal and plastic cattle zipties might work. On that note you could also tie our neck to a pole with a very long rope and then drive away. Your head will pop off while our body still drives the car.
Finding a sheer-off spot would be a good clean way to an end. Look for a parked tractor trailer somewhere that has enough room to get up to speed before hitting it, and is tall enough that the engine and hood can go underneath with the trailer bed hitting only the cab portion.
Don't get drunk beforehand as accuracy is key, and don't have any more gas in the tank than is necessary for the short drive to death. Burning to death is no fun, burning to still alive is hell on earth. >or setting yourself on fire before you crash Fire kills mostly by constricting the blood vessels under your skin, preventing you heart from pumping blood. Those who die in a crash often fall to blood loss. By setting yourself ablaze and crashing you'll have two deadly means working against eachother. Not worth the risk if you do survive imo, being paralyzed and in constant pain, blindness, tastelessness, etc etc.
>>242810 Very informative post, thank you. The decapitation idea sounds interesting, that might at least break your neck even at relatively moderate speeds.
>>242820 you don't, I believe. Outside of a gun i dont think the shrapnel would accelerate well enough to kill you. Maybe if you had enough shells you could open them up, gather lots of powder and confine it Why do you have access to the ammo but not to a shotgun?
>>242820 If uneducated Africans in the jungle can make slamfire shotguns to kill great apes at a distance, so can you. Also recall the man who instant-epoxied a bunch of shells to a hardhat and then electrically detonated them. No barrel, no moving mechanical parts, just the shells, some batteries, a copper coat hanger, and a helmet.
>>242555 >You think poverty is easier to overcome than your meme existential crisis? Yep, considering I have overcome it you absolute fucking retard. >Rich people rarely have a good reason to commit suicide in my eyes God I hate the idiots on here blaming one or two things for everything. "ONLY UGLY PEOPLE CAN BE TRUE WIZARD", "ONLY POOR PEOPLE CAN BE TRUE WIZARDS", "HEALTHY PEOPLE CAN'T BE SUICIDAL", "ONLY SHORT PEOPLE CAN BE TRUE WIZARDS". Fuck off, "meme existential crisis". There are a lot more reasons to commit suicide than an "existential crisis", not that you would know with your reddit tier views on it.
>>243003 A new sharp knife really isn't that painful if you cut quickly like you mean it. It would definitely be less painful than poking at yourself with a needle.
Has anyone every emailed any of those people from the PPH? Did you have to lie about being a cancer patient or something in order to get them to sell it to you? It appears they don't like to give it to you if you don't have some kind of debilitating illness. I feel I only have one chance to get it right, lest they refuse to sell it to me. Just deathly afraid to email them
>>243158 Safer and easier to just order heroin/fentanyl from within your own country, unless you are in some tiny country with no sellers. The PPH even says they only dont recommend this first because it is catered for biased old people without the technical capacity to do that. But I do think the nembutal guy from mexico doesnt ask anything
>>240717 Does anyone here have experience with antidepressants? Pic related is apparently good for social anxiety, and I heard someone say that pic related turned him into a fearless sociopath. It might give me the balls I need to off myself.
>>243274 Addicts that overdosed tend to say it is not bad at all. Some heroin addicts even say it feels good to vomit while on it. It's much better than morphine which is literally named after Morpheus, a god associated with sleep and dreams. It is the perfect method. You don't even need to inject, you can snort it
>>243293 Bullshit. Suicide/suicidal ideation is a common side effect of SSRIs. There have also been a lot of mass shooters who were on SSRIs who killed themselves.
Has anyone ever been able to acquire fentanyl/heroine? Do you just get it off the deep web? How does that even work? Or do you find someone in real life? Do I have to mix it with anything? Sorry for asking so many questions lately.
>>243355 Yes. I just went to a Tor site in a fresh Linux installation, sent some Monero, encrypted my address with PGP. Bag of powder arrived. It has a warning sticker on the ziplock bag saying it will kill me. I didn't take it because I made a lot of money from crypto, which I ironically only learnt about for using on the darknet
Jumping off a high place - are there any downsides besides difficulty in finding a location? I have access to a notorious suicide spot (pic related) which I assume is lethal height due to the high numbers of people who jump there every year. I suppose it would be psychologically difficult to throw oneself off the edge, but once that's done there's no chance of botching it - just a few seconds of terror and then peace.
>>243362 Instinct is a powerful thing and it can be completely disjointed from your rational mind. So I just worry that I would hesitate and some asshole would intervene. Or my intelligence is so low and my anxiety would be so high that I could do something like jump from the wrong spot
>>243362 A big downside to me is that I wouldnt be able to take my time and calmly think about what im doing. Stressful and unpleasant. At popular places like that there are malicious christians etc looking for people they can try to 'save'. If they approach you might be forced to do it immediately.
With fentanyl overdose I can be in a quiet and safe place while I watch my thoughts and feel fully about what im doing.
>The three main reasons Anne cites for her decision (elaborated below in in her post). > Unbearable suffering > No realistic way out of the suffering > The lack of a safety net, meaning potential colossal increase in suffering when the next setback or medical incident occurs
Every one of those applies to most low wage workers and most wizards as well.
Euthanasia is probably illegal because so many of them would rather die than keep living like this.
>>243376 >Euthanasia is probably illegal because so many of them would rather die than keep living like this. Assisted suicide is a meme, killing yourself is ridiculusly easy. Norms just want attention while doing it, wizzies quietly slip into the eternal night
>>243415 Redpill me on what it's like to get shot in the head and survive. How much brain damage do you have? What was the aftermath of you surviving it like? What caliber did you use?
If you or anyone else here try to shoot yourselves, it's probably better to shoot yourself either right above the ear or through the roof of the mouth. Higher calibers are better, and always use hollow points if you use a handgun. Use a shotgun if you can get one. Also, it's probably a good idea to barricade yourself in the room you are in so it's harder to "save" you. You could do it in a bathroom and lock the door. You could also do it in a remote location in the wilderness or something so that no one will find you. It might also be a good idea to drink some alcohol before hand, in order to lower your inhibitions and so that you bleed out faster.
>>243365 Is there a risk of ending up paralysed at every jump height, or is there a height at death (instant or otherwise) is virtually guaranteed? Even if I die in agony, I guess it's not a big problem provided that I can't be saved. The nightmare scenario for me would be surviving in an immobile condition where a further suicide attempt is impossible.
>>241079 How viable is this actually? This stuff isn't hard to find in my region. I've trid looking it up and theres studies of people who suffered from light poisoning from this (and survived) where it says that a good dose will kill you in minutes, but does anyone have reports or studies of people who actually died from this.
>>243301 Bullshit. That's the case at a lower dosage, but the effect is almost immediately noticeable once you get to the higher (read: actually effective) doses. But yeah, the emotional dullness is real. I was significantly less suicidal on Venlafaxine but I also didn't feel much. Sort of a Faustian deal tbh.
>>243885 Definitely either gun to the head or overdosing on opiates. If you blow your brains out with a shotgun, you will die instantly and not feel a thing. If you overdose on opiates, your last moments will be intense orgasmic pleasure. Drowning is retarded, and is one of the most painful ways to die.
>>243885 >>243905 Success rate of gunshot to the head is only 82.5%. The risk of survival as a vegetable seems unacceptable. By far the best solution is opiate overdose, that's my conclusion after I researched for years. Nembutal overdose would be ok as a second choice, but it is more difficult to acquire
>>243910 How much would be required to actually die? I've asked a guy studying medicine he said that it was too much to actually take before risking vomitting. So what's the good way? High success rate and not too painful? Also feasable so no meme about gas.
>>244088 anti-emetie will probably be needed before you go out. Also might be best to be sitting upright in the off chance that doesn't work so you don't chock on your vomit.
>>244088 >>244107 I think nembutal does need anti-emetics. The main source that has been in the peaceful pill handbook used to include them in the package.
But it is another reason why I prefer heroin/fentanyl: you cant vomit it up when you inhale or inject it
>>242373 >All that anger stems from being hurt. Yes >What are you hurting about? >who hurt you sweetie Being alive >I know it's not me since you've never met me and a simple comment isn't enough to get that hurt. >You know, some people actually become happy again after a long depression. and some people win the lottery or inherit a fortune > You only have one life (as far as we know) so why live it all being filled with hate and despair? I don't intend to live it at all. >However serious and pain inducing your problem may be there are solutions. Yes. Suicide. > We ought to at least make a serious continuous effort to be happy Yes. By suicide >instead of sulking and embracing being miserable when you have that slightest feeling you could be happy. I could be happy with suicide. >Now I know you'll be more angry about what I'm typing and you'll have a fit of rage along with the usual crab rethoric "you're never gonna make it bla bla bla, you're a failed normie, bla bla" Choose to believe you can be happy not the opposite. Yes it takes effort. But at least try to. Nobody hates you, they just think you're a normie with a bad superhero complex. Why not become an essential worker curve crushing healthcare hero and run a 5 k fun run for community support if you want to be a normie superhero so badly.
>>244146 It's still a bit harrowing, but then again, so is living.
Depends on the dose though, you want to start on a moderate dose if you wanna enjoy it, it will also aid you in actually offing yourself, but it needs to be a moderate to high dose, otherwise you'd end up sick, throwing up and getting a seizure before you can actually off yourself.
So once you're on heroin then you can safely OD, because you're in a stable state of mind, so less risk of errors.
>>244151 >It's still a bit harrowing How so, if I may ask? >but it needs to be a moderate to high dose How much of a dosage exactly? I've not ever used fentynal/heroine before. >Hope you find an alternative though. Any kind of alternative you suggest?
i sometimes watch these videos when im feeling suicidal. I dont have anything else to say, ive been lurking here for years and only posted a few times.
>>244337 >Don't have gun access I've said this before but in large parts of the world muzzleloaders are not regulated. Get a percussion muzzleloader like pic related, not like you'll need more than one shot. Completely painless
What do you think about an argon bath? What if i just shut the sinkhole in my bath and let and argon in? Since it its heavier than the air it will flow to the bottom, and i will suffocate without pain
>>244384 For the ???time, if you are "afraid of pain" or "a pussy" or "waiting for your enslavers to die" or "0.1% failure rate is unacceptable" or some other non-sense, you are not ready to die. Enough attention whoring. Kill yourself or shut up you pathetic creature.
>>244378 19th century guns have about as much power as modern guns, but their low velocity and sectional density mean they can't penetrate as well. Of course a rifle is probablysufficient and over penetration is a concern with modern guns (why shotguns are prefered to rifles).
>>242567 >I hate how people here are so suicidal >he says while in the /dep/ board while posting in suicide general thread you are the dumbest black gorilla nigger retard I have witnessed so far
>>244499 Historical and prehistoric people used to die in masses during warfare because there was no good way to improve your dopamine levels and life besides robbing your neighbor for their possesions.
Today any poor black in a ghetto can buy two tubs of Ben & Jerrys, a bag of potato chips and bathe your brain in dopamine for 3 hours for about 15 bucks and no effort.
>>244499 >i need more motivation. Maybe try different drugs to see which are the best at lowering your inhibition. >Why haven't you done it yet? Cowardice, mostly. My social anxiety inhibits me from going to the gun store.
>>244511 That's literally what serotonin uptake antidepressants do.
Your serotonin and dopamine levels get to a point where the patient no longer wants to constantly kill themselves.
Other, cheap ways to boost them are chocolate, ice cream, candies, chips, french fries, hamburgers etc. but abusing this option will lead to obesity, which can just make depression worse in the long run.
An expensive and dangerous way to boost them is drugs. The only somewhat safe recreational drug is weed, but that has its own set of problems, for example it can trigger psychosis in 2-3% of users predisposed to it. Then there is alcohol, which is a very common dopamine booster (but overall it is categorized as a depressant, because after the initial buzz, people generally feel worse).
Almost every human being needs these boosters to stay sane once they reach adulthood. In very harsh living conditions like in some African countries, children as young as 5 need this boost through sniffing glue, jet fuel etc. to escape the desire to die.
to suicide correctly for people without access to firearms: Drop hanging. It crushes your spine and you die 7 minutes later. Find a place to jump from that is your height + at least 9 feet, better if 10. example: 6 feet tall + 10 feet I'd find a tall tree and get a ladder.
Get a good rope, hemp or manilla is best because it is strong and doesn't stretch like nylon. Honestly it probably doesn't make much of a difference, as long as it is strong. Nylon is very strong. It needs to at least be able to hold 1000 pounds. The rope should be 8 or 9 feet not including the rope needed to tie the noose and other end tied to the tree, so I would get 14 or 15 feet. Make sure to measure
Tie a strong noose with a bulky knot, that will stay around your neck. Personally, I'd tie a noose that also sinches around my neck when I fall so I'd still be choked. Make sure to look at sturdy knots, if you need to connect 2 ropes use double fishermen. Just don't be stupid and tie it right.
When you go to hang yourself, take some poison beforehand. If you fuck this up you are fucked for life, paralyzed. Be safe, have a backup. Poisoning is painful and can be unreliable, so that's why drop hanging is prefered. Its fast and lethal if done correctly, without much pain involved. Cyanide poisoning is very lethal, and there are many plants out there that are lethal. Hemlock is one.
When you place the noose around your neck, place the knot under your chin so that when you jump it thrusts your head back and crushes your spine.
This is the best way to suicide. Its fast, lethal, not as painful as a other methods and once you do it there is no pussying out.
>>244530 >When you go to hang yourself, take some poison beforehand. What's the easiest poison to acquire, and what poisons do you recommend? >If you fuck this up you are fucked for life, paralyzed. Why not just use short-drop hanging where you die from strangulation, but get drunk/high beforehand? That way you won't become paralyzed, and the drug will dull the pain.
>>244533 >>244530 I missed the part about hemlock and cyanide. My reading comprehension sucks. What's the easiest way to get cyanide? For hemlock? are you supposed to make the needles into a tea, or consume it in some other way?
>>244534 I have no clue how to obtain cyanide. All parts of hemlock are highly toxic, it doesn't matter how you consume it. Id just swallow a few flowers.
I'd choose drop hanging because it snaps your neck in a second and then you're unconscious. I'd have control over my final thoughts and its quick.
>>244536 Oh and if you fail suspension hamging you'll suffer braindamage and still live as a vegatable as you would being paralyzed. If anything I'd prefer being paralyzed.
>>244537 It depends on just how debilitating the brain damage is. If I were to get moderate brain damage, but I'm not a vegetable and can still walk and move, I could just hang myself again or try to kms again using a different method.
I'll do it before 2022. I'll jump of 12th floor. I really don't mind being in vegetative state or quadriplegic. Actually, it seems better than suffering in prison with my conscience and health. Just stopped the cope and realized that it's over.
What do you all think of the idea of using a flare gun to kys with? You don't need a background check to buy them, and you can buy flare guns off Amazon and from military surplus stores. You will need to get a 12 gauge adapter and put it in the flare gun in order to fire it, though.
>>244861 >suicide by flaregun That exploit was patched long ago. They are all designed to explode upon firing a real shell, even a low velocity shortshell. You will walk away with a headache and poor hearing.
>>244863 >They are all designed to explode upon firing a real shell, even a low velocity shortshell. That's why you put a 12GA adapter in the flare gun to prevent it from blowing up and use it to shoot handgun ammo.
>>244987 a tour to another country, probably finland. go have a good time, have fun. donate some money to the schools, have good food. and then catch the bus in some isolated woods.
>>244450 If guys from this website were so good in selling shit and were able to sell suicide to a normie like you, they would be so rich, that they would not have a single thought about suicide.
This will sound ridiculous, but I'm not trolling like a lot of people here with their silly methods. I am the biggest coward on earth. I know all the painless methods really, I've ran all the simulations, the only drug I have access to is alcohol, even drunk out of my mind I would NEVER have the balls to attempt any of them, even under the most miserable scenarios like homelessness I would probably eat out of trash cans to survive, this is how bad my survival instinct is. So with methods that require one big push being out of the question, I realized I have to cope with slow methods that require less brave actions multiple times and then death being out of your hands. Two methods I can think of are cancer and cirrhosis. The second one is awful, one of the worst ways to die, but it doesn't require immediate courage, you can slowly chip away at your liver using alcohol and tylenol. The suffering might be mitigated by hospice care if you are lucky enough to have proper hospice care in your country. That leaves cancer as the last option I know of. I know it's silly. But do you guys know any methods to give yourself cancer? I know this is pathetic, but this is what desperation does to a man. I know at least two ways to increase your chances: frequent sun burns to increase chances of skin cancer and angle grinding asbestos to increase chances of lung cancer, but this is long term 15-20 years unfortunately. What do you guys think? Slower suicide methods aren't really discussed here.
Recently I've been making more active plans to finally end my life, and it feels really weird. In a way I've always known that this would happen, but there was always that part of me that was in disbelief, due to still having those ideas that I'd turn it all around, because I'm the protagonist or something, but lately it's been clear that I've always been a nameless, faceless and voiceless background character. While going after everything I need to do what I have to do, there were these times when I though: "Wow, this is actually happening…"
Naturally, when one's suicide feels more real, the thoughts that come up in our consciousness reflect that, thoughts about what comes after death, how the people in our lives will react, how well they'll be able to move on years after the fact… Well, one thought that has been coming up in my head frequently is very odd… I'm sure this will sound stupid, but I can't stop thinking about the fact that I'll die a virgin, I've never kissed a succubus, I've never had a girlfriend, I've never married, I've never slept with a succubus and cuddled as she slept over my arm and chest, I've never had a succubus be attracted to me and feel lust for me, I've never gotten a blowjob from a succubus who genuinely wanted to give me one, I've missed out on teenage love, I've missed out on love in general… These thoughts serve a purpose though, it reminds me that I'm making the right choice by putting an end to my dissapointing life.
It is so weird I found myself on this side. I always tried to talk others down from committing suicide because I do value other people. But as I found out recently I see no value in myself. I have mental illness for sure. Not that bad I don't have to take medication. It's more about being a failure in life. I'm doing this self improvement thing even though I know it won't bring me happiness. It's just something to kill time with. Self improvement is not bs but it's more useful for people who have a future. I don't have a future. I don't want to commit suicide before my parents die. I don't want them to suffer the feeling of losing a child (cue in the LOTR scene with Theoden). But after they die. I will jump into the river. Preferably in winter when it's really cold. I also feel sorry for my siblings. They have a good future and I'm glad they do. I'm sorry for being selfish and I'm also sorry for wasting your time with this long ass monologue. Can't share these thoughts anywhere else without getting downvoted by normies.
>>240717 Has anyone ever considered crossbows? I'm not joking, would they work? I (think) they're simple to acquire, but do the bolts possess sufficient force to penetrate the skull/hit the brainstem like a shotgun or similar firearm would?
>>240717 Thoughts on stabbing yourself? I know of at least 2 cases in history where guys stabbed themselves in an attempt to make it look like they had been attacked, only to inadvertently kill themselves.