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Looking back at the last two threads there seems to be somewhat of a general consensus that we've come to some kind of …impasse(?), that if we're not the last wizard, we will be the last wizards of our kind.
Question is who, if anybody, will come after us?
To me it's ridiculously obvious that the subculture(s) that the wizards, outsiders, outcasts, losers, etc resided in are completely in the hands of the normalfags, right down to the degeneracy contained within them. (Now, it seems like it's starting to consume them but that's another topic maybe).
Some anons in the last thread have argued that wizards should erect ever higher walls to keep out the normalfags from their hobbies but I say that's a futile and exhaustive exercise thanks in no small part to retard-proof internet access.
I think wizards, of the current generation at least, have to make peace that what was once theirs, is no longer. (Older wizards I'd think are beyond caring at this point since they've sort of defeated time.)
Question is who, if anybody, will come after us?
To me it's ridiculously obvious that the subculture(s) that the wizards, outsiders, outcasts, losers, etc resided in are completely in the hands of the normalfags, right down to the degeneracy contained within them. (Now, it seems like it's starting to consume them but that's another topic maybe).
Some anons in the last thread have argued that wizards should erect ever higher walls to keep out the normalfags from their hobbies but I say that's a futile and exhaustive exercise thanks in no small part to retard-proof internet access.
I think wizards, of the current generation at least, have to make peace that what was once theirs, is no longer. (Older wizards I'd think are beyond caring at this point since they've sort of defeated time.)
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Someone in the last thread suggested that the new wizards might not be recognizable.
>more "primal" wizards who exercises physically in order to feel better about themselves and kill time and they will be more hooked to what most people call "reality" in general, which is not necessarily a bad thing. It actually already started and some of them are sometimes mistaken for improvebrahs especially by older wiz too old to change their ways but i think i know what lead them there, there's just nothing else left to do for yougers wizards.
I'll add to this and say that they might not even be on the internet, those with the means might just go full-Ted and go live in the woods, those without means will just use the internet for the necessities (since you need a damn smartphone to participate in this society).
I'm asking for a lot but I'd like opinions from actual 30+ wizards or people near the end of their 20s.
>more "primal" wizards who exercises physically in order to feel better about themselves and kill time and they will be more hooked to what most people call "reality" in general, which is not necessarily a bad thing. It actually already started and some of them are sometimes mistaken for improvebrahs especially by older wiz too old to change their ways but i think i know what lead them there, there's just nothing else left to do for yougers wizards.
I'll add to this and say that they might not even be on the internet, those with the means might just go full-Ted and go live in the woods, those without means will just use the internet for the necessities (since you need a damn smartphone to participate in this society).
I'm asking for a lot but I'd like opinions from actual 30+ wizards or people near the end of their 20s.
>>241494
I’m not old, but I can already see that happening. Wizards, as they are loners, avoid things that are mainstream just by definition/tendency. So as things that were once unpopular become ever more celebrated by the masses it’s natural that most wizards will lose interest, or just never develop an interest in the first place. I think that’s why there’s more anti anime/escapism sentiment as of late because you can’t escape into something when it’s shoved in your face IRL. Though I have no faith in young wizards going uncle Ted, they are raised with tech and trying to remove it would be akin to trying to sever your own limb.
I’m not old, but I can already see that happening. Wizards, as they are loners, avoid things that are mainstream just by definition/tendency. So as things that were once unpopular become ever more celebrated by the masses it’s natural that most wizards will lose interest, or just never develop an interest in the first place. I think that’s why there’s more anti anime/escapism sentiment as of late because you can’t escape into something when it’s shoved in your face IRL. Though I have no faith in young wizards going uncle Ted, they are raised with tech and trying to remove it would be akin to trying to sever your own limb.
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>>241495
>I think that’s why there’s more anti anime/escapism sentiment as of late because you can’t escape into something when it’s shoved in your face IRL.
lol the real explanation is a lot more prosaic: it's a bunch of poseurs trying to one up each other. The others will follow along out of fear of getting judged by them and to get cool credibility points, and this is how you end up with a cycle of larpers and phonies superficially getting into more worthwhile and deep pursuits, or so they pretend. Few things ring as hollow and desperate as these posters who flood imageboards and social media (esp. twitter of all places) with their pseudo-mysticism and living off the grid.
>I think that’s why there’s more anti anime/escapism sentiment as of late because you can’t escape into something when it’s shoved in your face IRL.
lol the real explanation is a lot more prosaic: it's a bunch of poseurs trying to one up each other. The others will follow along out of fear of getting judged by them and to get cool credibility points, and this is how you end up with a cycle of larpers and phonies superficially getting into more worthwhile and deep pursuits, or so they pretend. Few things ring as hollow and desperate as these posters who flood imageboards and social media (esp. twitter of all places) with their pseudo-mysticism and living off the grid.
>>241494
>I'm asking for a lot but I'd like opinions from actual 30+ wizards or people near the end of their 20s.
So… someone like me? Okay.
Truth be told, wizardry, as a concept of rejecting society and living as an enlightened monk, is dead. We have too many simps and crabs here who worship succubi and don't even attempt to do any sort of self-reflection on their behavior. They are most likely not even virgins because they may have already paid a hooker to fuck them. That's how obsessed they are with pussy. So why do they post here? Because we've lost the fight against them and failed normalfags in general. They won, and the ship has been sinking ever since.
>I'm asking for a lot but I'd like opinions from actual 30+ wizards or people near the end of their 20s.
So… someone like me? Okay.
Truth be told, wizardry, as a concept of rejecting society and living as an enlightened monk, is dead. We have too many simps and crabs here who worship succubi and don't even attempt to do any sort of self-reflection on their behavior. They are most likely not even virgins because they may have already paid a hooker to fuck them. That's how obsessed they are with pussy. So why do they post here? Because we've lost the fight against them and failed normalfags in general. They won, and the ship has been sinking ever since.
I question the concept of wizard as a distinct and strict identity and it makes me wonder how you would classify a 30+ virgin volcel who still seeks out social interactions (I have a relative like this) but not sex partners. That said I think wizards will just go offline as online spaces are flooded with normies. Zoomers will start approaching wizardhood soon and there are a lot of crab zoomers, as in a LOT, and they will soon begin to give up and embrace their doom. And many are probably volcel all along. I think porn is a major driver there. So wizardhood might disappear simply because there are too many wizards and the old and new scatter apart from each other.
I really wonder how many 40+ or 50+ wizards are on this site. What happens to them? They lose interest in message boards? They all kill themselves? What happens? What happened to them, is what will happen to us next. The zoomers will become the new wizards. Expect a lot more mobile posting.
I really wonder how many 40+ or 50+ wizards are on this site. What happens to them? They lose interest in message boards? They all kill themselves? What happens? What happened to them, is what will happen to us next. The zoomers will become the new wizards. Expect a lot more mobile posting.
>>241502
>Truth be told, wizardry, as a concept of rejecting society and living as an enlightened monk, is dead.
It never was alive to begin with you moron. It always was one big larp by shitposters with an overinflated ego. Do I need to remind you of the buddhafaggot/granny killer that used to post here? Come on now.
>Truth be told, wizardry, as a concept of rejecting society and living as an enlightened monk, is dead.
It never was alive to begin with you moron. It always was one big larp by shitposters with an overinflated ego. Do I need to remind you of the buddhafaggot/granny killer that used to post here? Come on now.
>>241504
>I question the concept of wizard as a distinct and strict identity
This might put me in the firing line but it's more of a self-aware meme than an identity.
But I understand why things are the way they are since the collective pool has been poisoned since 2014.
>I question the concept of wizard as a distinct and strict identity
This might put me in the firing line but it's more of a self-aware meme than an identity.
But I understand why things are the way they are since the collective pool has been poisoned since 2014.
>We have too many simps and crabs here who worship succubi and don't even attempt to do any sort of self-reflection on their behavior.
I would also like to see examples of this. I believe it is severely frowned upon around here and has been for a long time. If you're talking about the occasional /b/ fucktard then I would agree but we all know that board is unsalvageable.
I would also like to see examples of this. I believe it is severely frowned upon around here and has been for a long time. If you're talking about the occasional /b/ fucktard then I would agree but we all know that board is unsalvageable.
I think the problem is bigger than just some anons on an imageboard, everything these days can commodified and sold off.
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What do you guys mean by "the end of wizards"? Sorry if it's a dumb question, it's been a long time since iv been on wizchan. Only ever lurked anyways.
>>241540
No, I've often lamented that neets are actually a minority on the site, but whatever.
No, I've often lamented that neets are actually a minority on the site, but whatever.
>>241536
From the original thread:
>Wizards, and social retards/reclusives/outcasts, are a dying breed. It took me a while to figure that out, I don't know if we're being breed out OR that the modern state of the internet has opened all doors for self-improvement and congregation for people who would be us (I think it's the latter). Cos on 4chan people are always complaining that "reddit is leaking" or "it's so reddit in here", it's not. It's that the "zoomers" that have replaced us, come from a much more socially inclined background by default and most, if not all, of internet (and geek) culture has seeped into the mainstream.
>Those of us that did not fully commit to a fandom or a passion, are now left with no real identity. I think in a certain sense it's a lot harder to be a loner now, like, you can have a giant anime figurine collection but the internet these days will always remind you that there are other people who also have the same hobby, but are enjoying with other people who take it to different places they wouldn't have dreamed of on their own. Basically reminding you that *your* giant anime figurine collection are just lumps of shaped plastic.
From the original thread:
>Wizards, and social retards/reclusives/outcasts, are a dying breed. It took me a while to figure that out, I don't know if we're being breed out OR that the modern state of the internet has opened all doors for self-improvement and congregation for people who would be us (I think it's the latter). Cos on 4chan people are always complaining that "reddit is leaking" or "it's so reddit in here", it's not. It's that the "zoomers" that have replaced us, come from a much more socially inclined background by default and most, if not all, of internet (and geek) culture has seeped into the mainstream.
>Those of us that did not fully commit to a fandom or a passion, are now left with no real identity. I think in a certain sense it's a lot harder to be a loner now, like, you can have a giant anime figurine collection but the internet these days will always remind you that there are other people who also have the same hobby, but are enjoying with other people who take it to different places they wouldn't have dreamed of on their own. Basically reminding you that *your* giant anime figurine collection are just lumps of shaped plastic.
>>241540
Hikkis and NEETs are not difficult to be. Being self sufficient and living in the woods is not only stupidly difficult, but obviously does not leave much room for computer/internet access so even if someone did manage it they wouldn’t post here.
Hikkis and NEETs are not difficult to be. Being self sufficient and living in the woods is not only stupidly difficult, but obviously does not leave much room for computer/internet access so even if someone did manage it they wouldn’t post here.
I don't get why do you care about your hobbies going mainstream if you do it on your own? If your hobby requires participation others, or if it's due to avoidance of being part of the herd, than that only proves you were one of them to begin with as you share the same interest.
>>241552
It's not a fucking hard concept. Anything hobby that involves consumption is liable to be altered to fit the whims of the normalfags. Something like carving, because you are the sole producer and consumer, is immune. Something like movies, anime, or video games are subject to normalfag infiltration as you are the sole consumer, and essentially unable to produce your own content.
It's not a fucking hard concept. Anything hobby that involves consumption is liable to be altered to fit the whims of the normalfags. Something like carving, because you are the sole producer and consumer, is immune. Something like movies, anime, or video games are subject to normalfag infiltration as you are the sole consumer, and essentially unable to produce your own content.
>>241552
A few posts from the last thread.
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>hobby invasion
>I guess it mostly depresses anons who became wizards in the last 10 years or so, to have your small corner of the world just slowly taken over by people that include the ones who never cared for the hobby in the first place.
>I mean, I assume most wizards have been excluded from many things growing, so to have your own space/hobby was something special.
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>There's been a "flattening" of the geek/nerd cultures so that newcomers or invaders can just waltz in without any prior commitment to it. Whether someone is a "real" geek or not at this point becomes irrelevant because all of the effort that was required, things like collecting comic books, arranging clubs, getting rare items from abroad etc, has become trivial to do.
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>….the idea that anybody with a buncha cash could just outright buy "nerd cred". I mean, if you were on a crappy wage or on NEETbux, it meant something to you to spend that much on something. And I guess if you were a rich nerd, it probably meant something as well because "nerd cred" wasn't worth anything outside the community back in those days…..
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>That is his point fool the NEET neckbeards had to save their paycheck to buy figurines, while rich normies can just throw some pocket change at it and acquire just as many, if not more figures. So now normies can claim to be "better collectors" while not devoting any effort or interest in the hobby.
A few posts from the last thread.
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>hobby invasion
>I guess it mostly depresses anons who became wizards in the last 10 years or so, to have your small corner of the world just slowly taken over by people that include the ones who never cared for the hobby in the first place.
>I mean, I assume most wizards have been excluded from many things growing, so to have your own space/hobby was something special.
—-
>There's been a "flattening" of the geek/nerd cultures so that newcomers or invaders can just waltz in without any prior commitment to it. Whether someone is a "real" geek or not at this point becomes irrelevant because all of the effort that was required, things like collecting comic books, arranging clubs, getting rare items from abroad etc, has become trivial to do.
—-
>….the idea that anybody with a buncha cash could just outright buy "nerd cred". I mean, if you were on a crappy wage or on NEETbux, it meant something to you to spend that much on something. And I guess if you were a rich nerd, it probably meant something as well because "nerd cred" wasn't worth anything outside the community back in those days…..
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>That is his point fool the NEET neckbeards had to save their paycheck to buy figurines, while rich normies can just throw some pocket change at it and acquire just as many, if not more figures. So now normies can claim to be "better collectors" while not devoting any effort or interest in the hobby.
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>>241562
This.
The normal people urge to be "unique" among their kind led to the swallowing of underground hobbies like anime, geek, etc, just because they're different. Just a few normies practicing the specific hobby, + some posts on social media, are required to turn something once marginalized into a mainstream shit.
But this hunger for attention never ceases, so when everything is normalized that will always have a select group of normies fiercely searching for anything culturally unknown in the society to bring it up so they can have their so special few months of alternativeness before it spreads as the other stolen hobbies.
My questioning is, after a certain time, will the old hobbies normalized by the society at some point be forgotten? Will someday anime and geek stuff be treated as "outcast" shit as it was back in the 90s and beggining of 00s?
All of us here know that mainstream culture is liquid as hell, it doesn't take long to something be exchanged for another, it's actually been happenning quite fast in the past years. I've seen a monstrous growth on people leaving internet and abandoning old fashioned geek stuff like RPGs, but what is the limit?
Any thoughts?
This.
The normal people urge to be "unique" among their kind led to the swallowing of underground hobbies like anime, geek, etc, just because they're different. Just a few normies practicing the specific hobby, + some posts on social media, are required to turn something once marginalized into a mainstream shit.
But this hunger for attention never ceases, so when everything is normalized that will always have a select group of normies fiercely searching for anything culturally unknown in the society to bring it up so they can have their so special few months of alternativeness before it spreads as the other stolen hobbies.
My questioning is, after a certain time, will the old hobbies normalized by the society at some point be forgotten? Will someday anime and geek stuff be treated as "outcast" shit as it was back in the 90s and beggining of 00s?
All of us here know that mainstream culture is liquid as hell, it doesn't take long to something be exchanged for another, it's actually been happenning quite fast in the past years. I've seen a monstrous growth on people leaving internet and abandoning old fashioned geek stuff like RPGs, but what is the limit?
Any thoughts?
>>241568
Maybe, and I hope so.
My best guess is that modern anime will evolve into something new in a few years and we can then make a hobbie out of enjoying the "classics" kinda like old movie buffs.
Maybe, and I hope so.
My best guess is that modern anime will evolve into something new in a few years and we can then make a hobbie out of enjoying the "classics" kinda like old movie buffs.
>>241568
>All of us here know that mainstream culture is liquid as hell, it doesn't take long to something be exchanged for another, it's actually been happening quite fast in the past years.
lol no.
>In conditions of digital recall, loss is itself lost.
Nothing really disappears anymore, it just get absorbed by the monoculture sans any soul.
It's why if there are any new wizards, outsiders, outcasts, etc they'll be into something completely leftfield and disconnected from the old geek subcultures.
>All of us here know that mainstream culture is liquid as hell, it doesn't take long to something be exchanged for another, it's actually been happening quite fast in the past years.
lol no.
>In conditions of digital recall, loss is itself lost.
Nothing really disappears anymore, it just get absorbed by the monoculture sans any soul.
It's why if there are any new wizards, outsiders, outcasts, etc they'll be into something completely leftfield and disconnected from the old geek subcultures.
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>>241493
I think the main problem with the new wizards is the filters, around 2014 I was happy to find this place, a place with people like me.
That's basically it "people like me" I already had an idea of myself, I'm me, I like this and that, but how can new wizards become wizards if they can't even find that, an identity, and even if they had one could they become one of us? (referring to potential wizards and not regular normalfags) how many things are out there that can drain your life before becoming a wizard?
>Porn (copious amounts of porn of all kinds and colors)
>Weeabos (making a clear difference between enjoying anime and being a normalfag who uses anime as an identity)
>Political stuff (/pol/ or regular left faggotry)
>Inc*l culture(which is a term easier to find and understand which can be alluring to new potential wizards and lead them through that path)
>Drugs (At the expense of sounding like an old man, today's generation has an incredibly easy access to hardcore drugs, which obviously take potential wizards away)
>And any of the other things that can poison you before even realizing "hey I can live without succubus cant I?"
There are way too many things that can and WILL prevent the "creation" of new wizards, and there's nothing we can do about it.
We will die, well be replaced by normalfags, but I want to think and hope that out there some young guy has my same hate, my same void if you will, against regular humans and succubi, and even if they don't come here those will be our successors a new breed that won't even be here.
I think the main problem with the new wizards is the filters, around 2014 I was happy to find this place, a place with people like me.
That's basically it "people like me" I already had an idea of myself, I'm me, I like this and that, but how can new wizards become wizards if they can't even find that, an identity, and even if they had one could they become one of us? (referring to potential wizards and not regular normalfags) how many things are out there that can drain your life before becoming a wizard?
>Porn (copious amounts of porn of all kinds and colors)
>Weeabos (making a clear difference between enjoying anime and being a normalfag who uses anime as an identity)
>Political stuff (/pol/ or regular left faggotry)
>Inc*l culture(which is a term easier to find and understand which can be alluring to new potential wizards and lead them through that path)
>Drugs (At the expense of sounding like an old man, today's generation has an incredibly easy access to hardcore drugs, which obviously take potential wizards away)
>And any of the other things that can poison you before even realizing "hey I can live without succubus cant I?"
There are way too many things that can and WILL prevent the "creation" of new wizards, and there's nothing we can do about it.
We will die, well be replaced by normalfags, but I want to think and hope that out there some young guy has my same hate, my same void if you will, against regular humans and succubi, and even if they don't come here those will be our successors a new breed that won't even be here.
>>241584
Unrelated but I can't stop staring at this gif, something about the polygony aesthetic of the 90s that draws me in. Nothing the modern graphic could ever replicate.
Unrelated but I can't stop staring at this gif, something about the polygony aesthetic of the 90s that draws me in. Nothing the modern graphic could ever replicate.
>>241588
I hope you're not a zoomer who waxes lyrical about old games which they could have any real attatchment to beyond "it's retro".
The number of zoomer retards claiming Goldeneye 64 was the best fps they've ever played is fucking ridiculous. I love that game but it haa aged horribly.
I hope you're not a zoomer who waxes lyrical about old games which they could have any real attatchment to beyond "it's retro".
The number of zoomer retards claiming Goldeneye 64 was the best fps they've ever played is fucking ridiculous. I love that game but it haa aged horribly.
>>241546
But a hikki is completely detached from society, which is similar to living in the woods. The difference is that you get to have the comforts of home and not have to worry about dying from a bear attack. I would argue that being a hikki is actually a requirement for being a wizard, but then I'd get all kinds of negative replies here like "larp", "you're retarded" or some other childish insult.
But a hikki is completely detached from society, which is similar to living in the woods. The difference is that you get to have the comforts of home and not have to worry about dying from a bear attack. I would argue that being a hikki is actually a requirement for being a wizard, but then I'd get all kinds of negative replies here like "larp", "you're retarded" or some other childish insult.
>>241598
I don’t know what any of that has to do with my post.
Also, being a hikki is a luxury, most people don’t have family that would tolerate let alone enable such a thing.
I don’t know what any of that has to do with my post.
Also, being a hikki is a luxury, most people don’t have family that would tolerate let alone enable such a thing.
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>>241599
It really isn't.
Just don't be retarded and find a way.
I haven't as much as messaged my family in 6 years and have been fully hikki for 2 years in that time. I worked or lived in the woods for the rest of the time and saved up enough to go hikki again, but now for 4 years straight.
I am living the NEET-dream.
It really isn't.
Just don't be retarded and find a way.
I haven't as much as messaged my family in 6 years and have been fully hikki for 2 years in that time. I worked or lived in the woods for the rest of the time and saved up enough to go hikki again, but now for 4 years straight.
I am living the NEET-dream.
>>241601
> I worked or lived in the woods for the rest of the time and saved up enough to go hikki again,
Holy shit you even admit in your own post that you had to stop being a hikki in order to get money to go back. Why are you denying it’s a luxury?
> I worked or lived in the woods for the rest of the time and saved up enough to go hikki again,
Holy shit you even admit in your own post that you had to stop being a hikki in order to get money to go back. Why are you denying it’s a luxury?
>>241552
Becuase you are now on "their" turf whether you like it or not. THEY will now dictate the flow of whatever hobby they invaded.
Becuase you are now on "their" turf whether you like it or not. THEY will now dictate the flow of whatever hobby they invaded.
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>>241493
The whole subject makes me think; the machine will keep spitting out people who are not compatible with it and will want to break away with it regardless. Are we the same as the outcast/loners of previous centuries? Would they look down on us for being connected to a box and talking to other thus not really alone?
>>241562
>So now normies can claim to be "better collectors" while not devoting any effort or interest in the hobby.
I find this line of of thought disgusting.
Would you collect anime figures for some nerd cred or cause you like collecting the things? Why should you even fucking care that some vapid rich boy is able to afford more shit than you, posting in some youtube channel about it, even tho it doesn't even mean shit to him and most likely selling them off when he hops on another wagon?
Should I get mad some rich baby boomer can afford a 20K carbon bike with a load of the latest, fanciest accessories while I still ride my 20 year old bicycle? No, cause I can go bike riding the same.
Maybe there's something im overlooking or this is something that mostly happens on passive hobbies.
Like the things you like and if the people that produce them stop doing them for a different audience you cut them, simple as that, brand loyalty be damned and try to find someone who does them as you like.
>>241568
>My questioning is, after a certain time, will the old hobbies normalized by the society at some point be forgotten?
Surfing, skating and extreme sports. People still do them despite not being mainstream no more. Then again these are active hobbies that don't require a producer to make content for you to consume.
The whole subject makes me think; the machine will keep spitting out people who are not compatible with it and will want to break away with it regardless. Are we the same as the outcast/loners of previous centuries? Would they look down on us for being connected to a box and talking to other thus not really alone?
>>241562
>So now normies can claim to be "better collectors" while not devoting any effort or interest in the hobby.
I find this line of of thought disgusting.
Would you collect anime figures for some nerd cred or cause you like collecting the things? Why should you even fucking care that some vapid rich boy is able to afford more shit than you, posting in some youtube channel about it, even tho it doesn't even mean shit to him and most likely selling them off when he hops on another wagon?
Should I get mad some rich baby boomer can afford a 20K carbon bike with a load of the latest, fanciest accessories while I still ride my 20 year old bicycle? No, cause I can go bike riding the same.
Maybe there's something im overlooking or this is something that mostly happens on passive hobbies.
Like the things you like and if the people that produce them stop doing them for a different audience you cut them, simple as that, brand loyalty be damned and try to find someone who does them as you like.
>>241568
>My questioning is, after a certain time, will the old hobbies normalized by the society at some point be forgotten?
Surfing, skating and extreme sports. People still do them despite not being mainstream no more. Then again these are active hobbies that don't require a producer to make content for you to consume.
>>241628
>Surfing, skating and extreme sports.
I don't know where you live or how much money you make but it's mostly trust fund kids that are into that where I live.
>Surfing, skating and extreme sports.
I don't know where you live or how much money you make but it's mostly trust fund kids that are into that where I live.
>>241657
It wasn't supposed to educate you only show that it has been done.
Now the formula:
Live in Eastern Europe
Work in Western Europe
???
NEET
It wasn't supposed to educate you only show that it has been done.
Now the formula:
Live in Eastern Europe
Work in Western Europe
???
NEET
>>241664
You know this is a slow site that lives of quality posts, I dont know why you people even bother with such nonsensical posts. How is this even going to be an option for shithole wizards or people who dont speak a Slavic language?
What is "worked or lived in the woods" even supposed to mean? What, you are a lumberjack? You lived in the woods like Ted or how do you even save up enough money with those shitty Europoor wages?
You know this is a slow site that lives of quality posts, I dont know why you people even bother with such nonsensical posts. How is this even going to be an option for shithole wizards or people who dont speak a Slavic language?
What is "worked or lived in the woods" even supposed to mean? What, you are a lumberjack? You lived in the woods like Ted or how do you even save up enough money with those shitty Europoor wages?
>>241668
This is ridiculous. This guy can manage to travel thousands of kilometers to work and save money and claims he's a hikki. It's the week-end neet joke taken to a whole new level.
This is ridiculous. This guy can manage to travel thousands of kilometers to work and save money and claims he's a hikki. It's the week-end neet joke taken to a whole new level.
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>>241668
I'm sitting on 30k right now all from manual labour as a second worlder.
Lived in the woods, as in I quit my pops at 17 lived in the woods for 6 months until I got my mind together, joined the military for 2 years, got bored and since I'm not a retard saved up everything and spent my days as a hikki on my own dime for a year.
Then signed up with an agency for manual labour in Western Europe for another 2.5 years, saved all of that up and got back to my country for some more sleepy hikki time.
Stop being retarded and wasting your money. I don't know how normies manage to spend all of their money and there definetly is no reason you can't save 90% being a wiz.
Get a grip.
>>241669
100 Euros and that's being wasteful. Plane tickets cost 30$ one way.
I'm sitting on 30k right now all from manual labour as a second worlder.
Lived in the woods, as in I quit my pops at 17 lived in the woods for 6 months until I got my mind together, joined the military for 2 years, got bored and since I'm not a retard saved up everything and spent my days as a hikki on my own dime for a year.
Then signed up with an agency for manual labour in Western Europe for another 2.5 years, saved all of that up and got back to my country for some more sleepy hikki time.
Stop being retarded and wasting your money. I don't know how normies manage to spend all of their money and there definetly is no reason you can't save 90% being a wiz.
Get a grip.
>>241669
100 Euros and that's being wasteful. Plane tickets cost 30$ one way.
>>241672
It isn't about the money you fool. You lived in the woods, were in the military, traveled regularily, worked (in foreign countries, no less) and you call yourself a hikki. Look up the damn definition.
It isn't about the money you fool. You lived in the woods, were in the military, traveled regularily, worked (in foreign countries, no less) and you call yourself a hikki. Look up the damn definition.
>>241680
You don't have to interact with pretty much anybody to do any of those things, put up with people for as short as possible and move on. I kept to myself, got through it, now I'm back to watching anime 24/7 and reading.
Do I need to be a sissy twink to qualify?
I didn't do most of the things I did out of sheer will and motivation. Living in the woods sucked so I pulled myself out, military was boring so I quit, Hikki days were magic so I got myself some money to fund more of them.
No willpower needed.
You don't have to interact with pretty much anybody to do any of those things, put up with people for as short as possible and move on. I kept to myself, got through it, now I'm back to watching anime 24/7 and reading.
Do I need to be a sissy twink to qualify?
I didn't do most of the things I did out of sheer will and motivation. Living in the woods sucked so I pulled myself out, military was boring so I quit, Hikki days were magic so I got myself some money to fund more of them.
No willpower needed.
>>241701
Hikki doesn’t mean you don’t interact with people it means you completely isolate yourself inside your room. Working, living in the woods, and being in the military do not qualify.
Hikki doesn’t mean you don’t interact with people it means you completely isolate yourself inside your room. Working, living in the woods, and being in the military do not qualify.
>>241714
Haven't gone outside in a 9 days now, down to eating cooked rice just so I can avoid seeing another human. And whenever I do go for groceries I go as early in the morning as possible so there are as few people as there can be.
I'm pretty sure I'm Hikki-prime.
Ya'll still deal with your mums, I don't do even that.
Haven't gone outside in a 9 days now, down to eating cooked rice just so I can avoid seeing another human. And whenever I do go for groceries I go as early in the morning as possible so there are as few people as there can be.
I'm pretty sure I'm Hikki-prime.
Ya'll still deal with your mums, I don't do even that.
>>241715
So if I work and take 9 days off I qualify as hikikomori right, try to educate yourself before using terms you romanticize but have no clue about, like the redditor-highschooler who thinks he's hiki because he didn't go to school for a week.
So if I work and take 9 days off I qualify as hikikomori right, try to educate yourself before using terms you romanticize but have no clue about, like the redditor-highschooler who thinks he's hiki because he didn't go to school for a week.
>>241592
Not him but I have a similar feeling about graphics of that sort. I'm in my 30s and played SH1 when it was first released, so maybe that makes my comment legitimate for you? I don't like replaying the games, though. I can't enjoy video games at all anymore, so it's just a visual appreciation.
Not him but I have a similar feeling about graphics of that sort. I'm in my 30s and played SH1 when it was first released, so maybe that makes my comment legitimate for you? I don't like replaying the games, though. I can't enjoy video games at all anymore, so it's just a visual appreciation.
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>>241828
*I mean, ok lets say it is a LARP, so what kind of outsiders, outcasts, losers, NEETs, Hikkis etc are going to appear after the millennial outcasts?
*I mean, ok lets say it is a LARP, so what kind of outsiders, outcasts, losers, NEETs, Hikkis etc are going to appear after the millennial outcasts?
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I think the really schizoid type wizard will disappear and it's possible that male mental health issues are acknowledged more in society over time.
Some would think that the younger generations get sexualized but all these onlyfans and rough sex topics on tik tok are actually getting too overwhelming for most young people, especially young men and it doesn't cause them to actually engage in sexual activities, it's almost the opposite, if you look at what most young men think then you'll notice that regular normies and even Chads are getting irritated by all these outlets that enable any succubi to sell porn of themselves or to expose themselves to anyone, they are actually staring to lose interest over time and all these succubi will be left behind once the trends are over and every man saw their genitals and how they deep throated their exs dick on video, even some social media stars made hardcore porn and it all came down to such extremes that it eventually gets boring and uninteresting.
A lot of things seem to actually shift towards a slightly better future for men who are facing problems in life since even normies are starting to critique a lot of things. And to be honest I'm personally glad if no one has to live as difficult as we did.
Some would think that the younger generations get sexualized but all these onlyfans and rough sex topics on tik tok are actually getting too overwhelming for most young people, especially young men and it doesn't cause them to actually engage in sexual activities, it's almost the opposite, if you look at what most young men think then you'll notice that regular normies and even Chads are getting irritated by all these outlets that enable any succubi to sell porn of themselves or to expose themselves to anyone, they are actually staring to lose interest over time and all these succubi will be left behind once the trends are over and every man saw their genitals and how they deep throated their exs dick on video, even some social media stars made hardcore porn and it all came down to such extremes that it eventually gets boring and uninteresting.
A lot of things seem to actually shift towards a slightly better future for men who are facing problems in life since even normies are starting to critique a lot of things. And to be honest I'm personally glad if no one has to live as difficult as we did.
>>241903
This is delusional. The problems men face are a result of fundamental biological differences set in stone by evolution - the individual succubus simply has more reproductive value than the individual male, and liberalism/birth control means succubi get to exploit their sex power to no end.
"Male mental health problems will be taken more seriously" fucking lol. I can imagine the sun going out before a pussy wouldn't dry up in response to a man being vulnerable. Their instincts haven't changed since cavewoman times and it'll stay that way.
This is delusional. The problems men face are a result of fundamental biological differences set in stone by evolution - the individual succubus simply has more reproductive value than the individual male, and liberalism/birth control means succubi get to exploit their sex power to no end.
"Male mental health problems will be taken more seriously" fucking lol. I can imagine the sun going out before a pussy wouldn't dry up in response to a man being vulnerable. Their instincts haven't changed since cavewoman times and it'll stay that way.
>>241905
No I think he has a point. Sex is a two way street, and succubi have such power over men because before they (mostly) controlled how and when sex happened. But now with all these twitch whores and onlyfans, men not only have more sexual release than they could ever desire, but succubi are actively devaluing themselves sexually. So either two things are gonna happen, men will get fed up with succubi since they can know within seconds if the succubus in front of them has posted naked pics and this have no reason to even attempt to woo them, or they will continue letting succubi step over them and be cucks because their potential female partner makes more money flashing their tits than they could hope to make with a real job.
No I think he has a point. Sex is a two way street, and succubi have such power over men because before they (mostly) controlled how and when sex happened. But now with all these twitch whores and onlyfans, men not only have more sexual release than they could ever desire, but succubi are actively devaluing themselves sexually. So either two things are gonna happen, men will get fed up with succubi since they can know within seconds if the succubus in front of them has posted naked pics and this have no reason to even attempt to woo them, or they will continue letting succubi step over them and be cucks because their potential female partner makes more money flashing their tits than they could hope to make with a real job.
>>241906
sexual liberation does not benefit the majority of men this is well documented, it benefits succubi and a small number of chads who form harems
sexual liberation does not benefit the majority of men this is well documented, it benefits succubi and a small number of chads who form harems
>>241906
It doesn't matter how things shake out in the short term, the constraints remain the same. Men who are satisfied with porn don't have kids and thus their traits are purged from the composition of the next generation. What you're always left with is the majority of men who are unattractive but still need pussy so they succubi keep their power.
>men will get fed up with succubi since they can know within seconds if the succubus in front of them has posted naked pics and this have no reason to even attempt to woo them,
Desperate simps will wife up porn stars and whores because their genes program them to feel miserable otherwise. Similarly succubi get desperate to have kids around 30 and will lower their standards and reproduce with said simps. The ones who don't will have their traits purged from the gene pool, so there's no progress.
It doesn't matter how things shake out in the short term, the constraints remain the same. Men who are satisfied with porn don't have kids and thus their traits are purged from the composition of the next generation. What you're always left with is the majority of men who are unattractive but still need pussy so they succubi keep their power.
>men will get fed up with succubi since they can know within seconds if the succubus in front of them has posted naked pics and this have no reason to even attempt to woo them,
Desperate simps will wife up porn stars and whores because their genes program them to feel miserable otherwise. Similarly succubi get desperate to have kids around 30 and will lower their standards and reproduce with said simps. The ones who don't will have their traits purged from the gene pool, so there's no progress.
>>241903
I don't know, if the onlyfans was just succubi maybe but there are a bunch of dudes and trannies doing the same thing.
I don't know, if the onlyfans was just succubi maybe but there are a bunch of dudes and trannies doing the same thing.
>>241909
Men also prostitute themselves but they hardly are making any business and their clients are usually men, same goes with onlyfans, men do it but the demand is so low that it's not even relevant in comparison to succubi who engage in sexwork.
succubi usually don't pay for pornographic material of men, succubi don't even get horny as much they just act like they got the sex drive of a man to get attention and manipulate.
Men also prostitute themselves but they hardly are making any business and their clients are usually men, same goes with onlyfans, men do it but the demand is so low that it's not even relevant in comparison to succubi who engage in sexwork.
succubi usually don't pay for pornographic material of men, succubi don't even get horny as much they just act like they got the sex drive of a man to get attention and manipulate.
>>241938
>but the demand is so low that it's not even relevant in comparison to succubi who engage in sexwork.
The amount of trannys and crossdressers and jailhouse gays that have popped up over the years…
Remember when traps use to be a joke? Now shemale threads dominate porn threads on 4chan and other chans to the point where OP have to put females only in the thread title to get female porn.
>but the demand is so low that it's not even relevant in comparison to succubi who engage in sexwork.
The amount of trannys and crossdressers and jailhouse gays that have popped up over the years…
Remember when traps use to be a joke? Now shemale threads dominate porn threads on 4chan and other chans to the point where OP have to put females only in the thread title to get female porn.
and just like that we have a thread where the """wizards""" gather around to talk about their favorite subjects; succubi, trannies and sex.
I feel sorry for your pathetic rotten little minds but also would very much enjoy if your type just fuck off from this place for good.
I feel sorry for your pathetic rotten little minds but also would very much enjoy if your type just fuck off from this place for good.
>>241940
If you could redirect it back to hobbies and sanctuaries being destroyed instead of crying like a bitch, I would be most grateful.
If you could redirect it back to hobbies and sanctuaries being destroyed instead of crying like a bitch, I would be most grateful.
>>241896
The "You will own nothing and be happy" aspect of gaming nowadays, I'm not sure if it's the nerds' fault or the normies' fault because who else actually bought the horse armor back in 2008? I mean I know us nerds were the ones who bought pc expansion packs when they actually added value but I don't remember normies clamoring to buy horse armor.
The "You will own nothing and be happy" aspect of gaming nowadays, I'm not sure if it's the nerds' fault or the normies' fault because who else actually bought the horse armor back in 2008? I mean I know us nerds were the ones who bought pc expansion packs when they actually added value but I don't remember normies clamoring to buy horse armor.
>>241943
I don't remember many free-to-play games back in the 90s and 00s, subscription games sure but f2p I don't remember many. I don't think sub games were a big hit in the mainstream.
The f2p thing, I personally think, happened because of mobile freemium games like candy crush which were filled with microtransactions which they were able to hook normalfags on and apply the same shit to console games.
I don't remember many free-to-play games back in the 90s and 00s, subscription games sure but f2p I don't remember many. I don't think sub games were a big hit in the mainstream.
The f2p thing, I personally think, happened because of mobile freemium games like candy crush which were filled with microtransactions which they were able to hook normalfags on and apply the same shit to console games.
>>241947
I’m sorry your little tranny asshole got hurt, but it’s an aspect of society and this thread is all about the direction society is going and how that will shape potential wizards.
I’m sorry your little tranny asshole got hurt, but it’s an aspect of society and this thread is all about the direction society is going and how that will shape potential wizards.
>>241948
Replying to the wrong guy. I wouldn't mind talking about how there seems to be a crab/virgin-to-tranny pipline these days.
Replying to the wrong guy. I wouldn't mind talking about how there seems to be a crab/virgin-to-tranny pipline these days.
I grew up online, and the internet was an escape from the horribleness of the real world. Now it's dominated by corporations and infested with normalfags and exists to shove that reality right in your face and remind you that there is no escape and that anything good in your life won't last, it will be destroyed.
most of us are slowly being killed by the internet so the natural solution is to dumpster our computers and live a life of hermit-like solitude
shunning the contact of our fellow wizards and being totally alone with books and nature has the potential to strengthen us mentally and physically although the opposite might seem to be true
don't believe the normgroid science that says you will die if you aren't continually interacting with other humans every hour of every day
they don't want you to be strong and independent
shunning the contact of our fellow wizards and being totally alone with books and nature has the potential to strengthen us mentally and physically although the opposite might seem to be true
don't believe the normgroid science that says you will die if you aren't continually interacting with other humans every hour of every day
they don't want you to be strong and independent
>>241981
It's become the same for games, cartoons, movies. For the last decade or so they haven't been trying to provide escapism but are corporate propaganda designed to enforce conformism.
It's become the same for games, cartoons, movies. For the last decade or so they haven't been trying to provide escapism but are corporate propaganda designed to enforce conformism.
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you'll stay over 30
and you'll stay a virgin
there won't be an end to wizards, lol
there are no generations for people who don't have kids
if you are 30 and a guy gets born today and turns to a wizard when you're 60, is that supposed to be the next gen wizard?
there's no generation where there's no generative principle
if you want to be less literal then there'll always be new guys who are virgin at 30
virginity is rising
muh culture is cope
normal people made that content we like or used to like
we just happened to be more open to it that other people
once they got their pockets full they made stuff that appealed to wider audiences
identification with simulacra is self-objectification
be!
t. guy who was on cripplekike's first wizardchan in 2012
ps. study philosophy
and you'll stay a virgin
there won't be an end to wizards, lol
there are no generations for people who don't have kids
if you are 30 and a guy gets born today and turns to a wizard when you're 60, is that supposed to be the next gen wizard?
there's no generation where there's no generative principle
if you want to be less literal then there'll always be new guys who are virgin at 30
virginity is rising
muh culture is cope
normal people made that content we like or used to like
we just happened to be more open to it that other people
once they got their pockets full they made stuff that appealed to wider audiences
identification with simulacra is self-objectification
be!
t. guy who was on cripplekike's first wizardchan in 2012
ps. study philosophy
>>241493
You mean the internet is dead?
Yeah, it's been dead for awhile now. I'd say it died when 8chan went down. That was the last canary in the coal mine. The last place of freedom, snuffed out.
You mean the internet is dead?
Yeah, it's been dead for awhile now. I'd say it died when 8chan went down. That was the last canary in the coal mine. The last place of freedom, snuffed out.
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Wizards/ourcasts/hikkis etc etc aren't dying. You're being overly dramatic because the echochambers you've been using for the last 20~ years to validate your existence and obscure social clique are being phased out and you're too tired/uncaring etc to find the new ones where newer generations are pooling to. On top of that your autistic imageboard pride won't let you even consider other places to begin with.
Protip: Just get off the internet and be a wizard, specially since you dislike nu-net so much. It's the last place normalfags will ever think to look anyway.
>>242083
8ch was a piece of shit website anyway that was ruined by /pol/'s gravitational pull long before it got nuked.
Protip: Just get off the internet and be a wizard, specially since you dislike nu-net so much. It's the last place normalfags will ever think to look anyway.
>>242083
8ch was a piece of shit website anyway that was ruined by /pol/'s gravitational pull long before it got nuked.
>>242084
/pol/ was an excellent surface level distraction for all the /v/ kiddies, so everyone else could congregate on smaller boards and actually enjoy themselves. Though you’re correct as they are the ones who ultimately caused the site to get nukes.
/pol/ was an excellent surface level distraction for all the /v/ kiddies, so everyone else could congregate on smaller boards and actually enjoy themselves. Though you’re correct as they are the ones who ultimately caused the site to get nukes.
>>242084
>you're too tired/uncaring etc to find the new ones where newer generations are pooling to
so where exactly do outcast zoomers go to?
>you're too tired/uncaring etc to find the new ones where newer generations are pooling to
so where exactly do outcast zoomers go to?
>>242101
I'm personally almost certain that outcast zoomers, regardless of whether they'll be wizards or not, will be some kind of Ted-style loners.
I'm personally almost certain that outcast zoomers, regardless of whether they'll be wizards or not, will be some kind of Ted-style loners.
>>242104
Having both no real life nor any internet presence whatsoever besides, at most, the occasional post on an imageboard is the modern-day equivalent of that, yes. I expect that future generations of wizards will be so ostracised on all fronts, leaving them no recourse but to retreat into their own mind for vindication, that it will be impossible to even know they exist.
Having both no real life nor any internet presence whatsoever besides, at most, the occasional post on an imageboard is the modern-day equivalent of that, yes. I expect that future generations of wizards will be so ostracised on all fronts, leaving them no recourse but to retreat into their own mind for vindication, that it will be impossible to even know they exist.
>>242104
Delusion. “Zoomers” are too ingrained into the internet to be able to be able to sever it.
Delusion. “Zoomers” are too ingrained into the internet to be able to be able to sever it.
>>241573
It will likely evolve into consumer tat once the western market grows big enough, kinda like the new Star Wars movies from disney.
It will likely evolve into consumer tat once the western market grows big enough, kinda like the new Star Wars movies from disney.
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>>242062
Based and tedpilled
Based and tedpilled
One thing that irks beyond just the wizard/outcast perspective of being booted out of your own niche, is that geekdom and everything that is connected to it or surrounds it…has mutated into something sickening.
>>242129
I hate the female worship cult it has become. The writing was on the walls but it always had the rule of 3DPD until now.
I hate the female worship cult it has become. The writing was on the walls but it always had the rule of 3DPD until now.
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Most of this thread is sadly stupid nonsense. For the thread to have any meaning there should be zoomers giving their opinion (since the thread is about what is to come after the already past era of outcast) or at least people from other generations with some sense of perspective, which obviously most who have posted don't have even a bit. The majority of what is in the thread resumes to:
>Buaaaaaaaah everything is done, time to eat trash and nothing more! (defeatist moron)
>Guys what about we go to live like in the stone age? (delusional anarchoprimitivist)
>We are the last outcast broh, we're the only ones and there are no more! (people totally disconnected from reality)
So yeah the thread as is stands now has little to no value. At least I feel the OP had good intentions asking.
>Buaaaaaaaah everything is done, time to eat trash and nothing more! (defeatist moron)
>Guys what about we go to live like in the stone age? (delusional anarchoprimitivist)
>We are the last outcast broh, we're the only ones and there are no more! (people totally disconnected from reality)
So yeah the thread as is stands now has little to no value. At least I feel the OP had good intentions asking.
>>242174
>I’m the only one who’s right and everyone else is big dumb doodoo heads
Thanks for nothing bitch.
>I’m the only one who’s right and everyone else is big dumb doodoo heads
Thanks for nothing bitch.
>>242176
>Most people in the thread are wrong?!
Yes.
>B-but the majority of the thread…
Normalgroid thinking.
>Most people in the thread are wrong?!
Yes.
>B-but the majority of the thread…
Normalgroid thinking.
>>242177
You’re just coming in here calling everyone stupid yet not offering up any response to the OP yourself.
You’re just coming in here calling everyone stupid yet not offering up any response to the OP yourself.
>>242121
>It will likely evolve into consumer tat
It pretty much already has, Shounen Jump for example now has a strong mandate to make series that appeal to "global" audiences and not Japan
>It will likely evolve into consumer tat
It pretty much already has, Shounen Jump for example now has a strong mandate to make series that appeal to "global" audiences and not Japan
>>242131
No, no, no, no, you misunderstand me, that would be a half a step up from what it's become and becoming.
It's become malformed in a way that's hard to describe. There are like parts of it that should not have grown or should have died which have instead persisted and mutated into cancerous tumours.
No, no, no, no, you misunderstand me, that would be a half a step up from what it's become and becoming.
It's become malformed in a way that's hard to describe. There are like parts of it that should not have grown or should have died which have instead persisted and mutated into cancerous tumours.
>>242400
Problem is, people with low self control and low IQ bring other problems with them to advanced nations like very high crime rates, rapes, extortion, drugs etc.
Problem is, people with low self control and low IQ bring other problems with them to advanced nations like very high crime rates, rapes, extortion, drugs etc.
>>242412
lol
thing is the majority if not all wizards have low self control and a considerable amount have low iq too
lol
thing is the majority if not all wizards have low self control and a considerable amount have low iq too
>>242437
Our version of this is what? Masturbating too much and not controlling our shitposting binges? We're not even close to the drug dealing rapist nigger underclass.
Our version of this is what? Masturbating too much and not controlling our shitposting binges? We're not even close to the drug dealing rapist nigger underclass.
>>242399
It's hard to articulate non-verbally but there was this "innocence" that's lacking now in geekdom even in the degenerate parts.
One small part is, how every fandom seems to have an endless supply of /d/egenerate porn as it's main output nowadays. I know many (fan) artists used to separate their sfw and nsfw art (IF they did nsfw work) under different names, as not to link their original name to /d/egenerate content. Now they don't bother to have separate accounts and nsfw content is their main body of work because it makes the most money.
Another thing is the tranny shit that's grown like a cancer, which I'll expand on in a later post, but I think it stems from a number of things: mainly porn addiction, the idealized and unrealized geeky-succubus gf, narcissism and envy.
It's hard to articulate non-verbally but there was this "innocence" that's lacking now in geekdom even in the degenerate parts.
One small part is, how every fandom seems to have an endless supply of /d/egenerate porn as it's main output nowadays. I know many (fan) artists used to separate their sfw and nsfw art (IF they did nsfw work) under different names, as not to link their original name to /d/egenerate content. Now they don't bother to have separate accounts and nsfw content is their main body of work because it makes the most money.
Another thing is the tranny shit that's grown like a cancer, which I'll expand on in a later post, but I think it stems from a number of things: mainly porn addiction, the idealized and unrealized geeky-succubus gf, narcissism and envy.
>>242381
I think I know what you mean, like the onlyfans shit?
A concept that only made sense for otaku losers now has been normalised for the mainstream.
I think I know what you mean, like the onlyfans shit?
A concept that only made sense for otaku losers now has been normalised for the mainstream.
>>242412
>people with low self control and low IQ
that's the ideal immigrant for the future slave-caste of humanity, anon
>people with low self control and low IQ
that's the ideal immigrant for the future slave-caste of humanity, anon
>>242662
How? The first geeks programmed their own C64 apps or games and read obscure comic books. Or they were involved in things like Ham radio transmissions.
It was as non-commercial as it gets.
It was in fact so obscure, succubi used to demonize and ridicule these men to a great extent. There was nothing "cool" about it, normies actively mocked them.
How? The first geeks programmed their own C64 apps or games and read obscure comic books. Or they were involved in things like Ham radio transmissions.
It was as non-commercial as it gets.
It was in fact so obscure, succubi used to demonize and ridicule these men to a great extent. There was nothing "cool" about it, normies actively mocked them.
The internet is not longer for Wizards but for normies every form of media have now normies we need to isolate ourselves from the world even from internet
>>242664
>The first geeks programmed their own C64 apps or games and read obscure comic books
I have always resented the inclusion of comic book readers into the same mental space as electronics hobbyists, even back in the late 1990s when it was closer to a legitimate representation thanks to comic book shops sometimes engaging in under the table pirate videotape exchanges, which required at least an A/V club member's level of expertise. I don't see why this is still considered a reasonable grouping.
>The first geeks programmed their own C64 apps or games and read obscure comic books
I have always resented the inclusion of comic book readers into the same mental space as electronics hobbyists, even back in the late 1990s when it was closer to a legitimate representation thanks to comic book shops sometimes engaging in under the table pirate videotape exchanges, which required at least an A/V club member's level of expertise. I don't see why this is still considered a reasonable grouping.
>>242715
Not the person you're replying to, but I don't see how it's not reasonable.
I grew up on the West Coast and was a geek in the late 80s. The only place to buy any computer hardware was in comic book shops. All my friends were comic book geeks.
A considerable amount of them also eventually took up Assembly, then Perl, then much later Python and VB.
I'm still in internet contact with some as many still have their original .edu emails, though some have already died.
Not the person you're replying to, but I don't see how it's not reasonable.
I grew up on the West Coast and was a geek in the late 80s. The only place to buy any computer hardware was in comic book shops. All my friends were comic book geeks.
A considerable amount of them also eventually took up Assembly, then Perl, then much later Python and VB.
I'm still in internet contact with some as many still have their original .edu emails, though some have already died.
>>242721
Might be the difference a decade makes. Comic shops to me always represented the commercial environment for collectors, not the passionate investment of both hours and time of the kind of person who wanted to make something. Radio shops and electronics stores were pretty common. D&D groups seemed like they were going down a bad road as far as the build-it-yourself ethos goes as well, since their comic shops were incentivized to get them invested in specific continuous sale brands like Magic: The Gathering. Sounds like in the '80s the comics scene could afford to be a lot more lax since they were secure in a broader commercial niche.
Might be the difference a decade makes. Comic shops to me always represented the commercial environment for collectors, not the passionate investment of both hours and time of the kind of person who wanted to make something. Radio shops and electronics stores were pretty common. D&D groups seemed like they were going down a bad road as far as the build-it-yourself ethos goes as well, since their comic shops were incentivized to get them invested in specific continuous sale brands like Magic: The Gathering. Sounds like in the '80s the comics scene could afford to be a lot more lax since they were secure in a broader commercial niche.
>>242722
Yeah now that you mentioned, Ham radio (amateur radio) transmitter geeks were also in the same social circle.
You could buy some of that equipment in comic book shops which also sold early computer equipment.
I never got into Ham radio though.
Yeah now that you mentioned, Ham radio (amateur radio) transmitter geeks were also in the same social circle.
You could buy some of that equipment in comic book shops which also sold early computer equipment.
I never got into Ham radio though.
>>242722
IMO there was great overlap. Comic book stores is how I eventually got into computers and why I still work on computers today.
Depends on when you were born though, this overlap ended after the late 90s or so.
IMO there was great overlap. Comic book stores is how I eventually got into computers and why I still work on computers today.
Depends on when you were born though, this overlap ended after the late 90s or so.
>>242459
Drawn porn is borderline psychotic nowadays, like beyond what USED to be drawn for hentai otakus because AT LEAST for that you knew the target audience was just loner perverts.
Now it's drawn with bizarre agendas instead of just being jerk off material.
(I know the last sentence will drawn in a certain type of anon, but it's not what I mean by "bizarre agendas".)
Drawn porn is borderline psychotic nowadays, like beyond what USED to be drawn for hentai otakus because AT LEAST for that you knew the target audience was just loner perverts.
Now it's drawn with bizarre agendas instead of just being jerk off material.
(I know the last sentence will drawn in a certain type of anon, but it's not what I mean by "bizarre agendas".)
>I question the concept of wizard as a distinct and strict identity and it makes me wonder how you would classify a 30+ virgin volcel who still seeks out social interactions (I have a relative like this) but not sex partners.
a normal who is not interested in sex?
a normal who is not interested in sex?
>>242459
>"your sons are now your daughters and your daughters are now whores"
I'm gonna get blowback from this but what happened to low-status females in geekdom?
A few years back I saw a succubus dressed in a brown japanese schoolgirl outfit, don't know if it was generic or from a specific show, at a train station (I think there might have been a con going on somewhere) but she had this distant horrified look on her face and looked aged in a way that it seemed like she was older than she was. Her hair was almost completely greyed and she had "smooth" wrinkles, looking like a 30-something who aged like 40 year old.
That look she had on her face was kinda like the look on that ageing kid in "In The Mouth Of Madness", like she was trapped.
>"your sons are now your daughters and your daughters are now whores"
I'm gonna get blowback from this but what happened to low-status females in geekdom?
A few years back I saw a succubus dressed in a brown japanese schoolgirl outfit, don't know if it was generic or from a specific show, at a train station (I think there might have been a con going on somewhere) but she had this distant horrified look on her face and looked aged in a way that it seemed like she was older than she was. Her hair was almost completely greyed and she had "smooth" wrinkles, looking like a 30-something who aged like 40 year old.
That look she had on her face was kinda like the look on that ageing kid in "In The Mouth Of Madness", like she was trapped.
The internet is dead
any form of entertainment is dead ruined by normies we need to live like its the 90s or the 2000s again and pretend like the internet is not a big deal
any form of entertainment is dead ruined by normies we need to live like its the 90s or the 2000s again and pretend like the internet is not a big deal
>>243023
Low status succubi used to use nerd hobbies for status within that group. Now they sign up for social media and have 10,000 pajeets going HERRO SEXAH. YOU SHOW BAGINA????? at them all day long. They also got mind fucked because Tumblr was their home turf for writing fanfics and shipping bullshit, which let social justice slowly warp their minds. Being good drones got them likes and reblogs, being bad ones got them kicked out of their fandom. So low status succubi simply became insane feminists or got black listed and vanished from everything.
>What is the future of wizards
crabs are the next generation of wizards. You might not like it but that's the truth. Virgin men turned to pick up artisty and bitching about it rather than focusing on their own lives. Some of them probably became MGTOW, a lot post on /pol/. It's all shouting into the wind on the internet but that's where they are.
>>243089
AOL came out in the 90s and brought all the normalfags onto it. You're one of the normalfags you're decrying others for being. The 90's internet wasn't better than what we have now despite what you want to meme. In the 90s it took a week to download a single tv series episode. Now I can jump on a streaming site and watch almost anything I want with 2 clicks. I can download games in seconds when patches used to take me an hour. I remember trying Half life 1 online and Diablo 2, putting the patcher on and thinking it would be a few minutes when it was years out of date with patches and I was on 28k dial up. I had to get download managers to download patches so I could resume it if it dropped part way through (and it did because dial up). These days Steam has all my games patched and ready to go and many games I get entirely free or for almost nothing.
Low status succubi used to use nerd hobbies for status within that group. Now they sign up for social media and have 10,000 pajeets going HERRO SEXAH. YOU SHOW BAGINA????? at them all day long. They also got mind fucked because Tumblr was their home turf for writing fanfics and shipping bullshit, which let social justice slowly warp their minds. Being good drones got them likes and reblogs, being bad ones got them kicked out of their fandom. So low status succubi simply became insane feminists or got black listed and vanished from everything.
>What is the future of wizards
crabs are the next generation of wizards. You might not like it but that's the truth. Virgin men turned to pick up artisty and bitching about it rather than focusing on their own lives. Some of them probably became MGTOW, a lot post on /pol/. It's all shouting into the wind on the internet but that's where they are.
>>243089
AOL came out in the 90s and brought all the normalfags onto it. You're one of the normalfags you're decrying others for being. The 90's internet wasn't better than what we have now despite what you want to meme. In the 90s it took a week to download a single tv series episode. Now I can jump on a streaming site and watch almost anything I want with 2 clicks. I can download games in seconds when patches used to take me an hour. I remember trying Half life 1 online and Diablo 2, putting the patcher on and thinking it would be a few minutes when it was years out of date with patches and I was on 28k dial up. I had to get download managers to download patches so I could resume it if it dropped part way through (and it did because dial up). These days Steam has all my games patched and ready to go and many games I get entirely free or for almost nothing.
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While I feel kinda 'forgotten' with 32 already, it's not like I got any attention in life anyways.
The thing with people our age is that people born in the late 80s are kind of in a weird spot. The 'old times' before the internet went mainstream in the second half of the 2000s were pretty much dying (really grateful I got to experience at least a few years of it at least), but when that happened I pretty much finished school already, so it always was kinda weird to be thrown in the mix with 'millenials' when it felt like I always was a few years ahead of the curve.
Considering what will happen to me, I don't plan to go anywhere, and how could I, at this point I spent over 15 years lurking imageboards and it feels like the community of virgins and losers, while shifting to the next generation, is more alive than ever. We always wished to watch the downfall of society and I feel we are on a good way, so why not just sit back and enjoy the show? Remember these graphs a few years ago that showed the explosion of male virginity? There WILL be consequences on paper alone sooner or later, if not for the failing economy anyways. We for one can be optimistic to at least get to feel some joy in our lives watching our own suffering befalling a whole new generation of men.
The thing with people our age is that people born in the late 80s are kind of in a weird spot. The 'old times' before the internet went mainstream in the second half of the 2000s were pretty much dying (really grateful I got to experience at least a few years of it at least), but when that happened I pretty much finished school already, so it always was kinda weird to be thrown in the mix with 'millenials' when it felt like I always was a few years ahead of the curve.
Considering what will happen to me, I don't plan to go anywhere, and how could I, at this point I spent over 15 years lurking imageboards and it feels like the community of virgins and losers, while shifting to the next generation, is more alive than ever. We always wished to watch the downfall of society and I feel we are on a good way, so why not just sit back and enjoy the show? Remember these graphs a few years ago that showed the explosion of male virginity? There WILL be consequences on paper alone sooner or later, if not for the failing economy anyways. We for one can be optimistic to at least get to feel some joy in our lives watching our own suffering befalling a whole new generation of men.
>>243106
>We always wished to watch the downfall of society
I wanted to see it crash, not fade. On this faggot earth even the big finale is gay.
>We always wished to watch the downfall of society
I wanted to see it crash, not fade. On this faggot earth even the big finale is gay.
>>242178
>You’re just coming in here calling everyone
No I came here and say that most of the thread is nonsense, putting clear examples of what most of the "contributions" are and how dumb they are. No, coming here and saying things like "Waaah! everything is done! just by on your feet and suffer like the little crap do you are!" don't deserve anything more than a general calling out of stupidity.
>not offering up any response to the OP
The questions asked are wrong from the start. Outcast shouldn't ask themselves "what others are going to do" but "what I going to do".
The first hint is that, outcasts should create things for themselves, and other outcasts.
>You’re just coming in here calling everyone
No I came here and say that most of the thread is nonsense, putting clear examples of what most of the "contributions" are and how dumb they are. No, coming here and saying things like "Waaah! everything is done! just by on your feet and suffer like the little crap do you are!" don't deserve anything more than a general calling out of stupidity.
>not offering up any response to the OP
The questions asked are wrong from the start. Outcast shouldn't ask themselves "what others are going to do" but "what I going to do".
The first hint is that, outcasts should create things for themselves, and other outcasts.
>>242174
>>243134
>or at least people from other generations with some sense of perspective
This has to be some zoomer's post who feels who incredibly smug. The only people here are going to be Gen X, Millennials and Gen Z, and only Gen X and very early Millennials had somewhat stable closed-off subcultures that weren't sucked up immediately into the monoculture like everything is nowadays.
>The first hint is that, outcasts should create things for themselves, and other outcasts.
Ok, it definitely is some zoomer's post, some vague crap. Anything that's actually going to be created that won't immediately incorporated into the machine is going to be offline. It's going to be AT LEAST half a generation further along beyond the zoomers before anything like that is created because zoomers are too connected to social media.
>>243134
>or at least people from other generations with some sense of perspective
This has to be some zoomer's post who feels who incredibly smug. The only people here are going to be Gen X, Millennials and Gen Z, and only Gen X and very early Millennials had somewhat stable closed-off subcultures that weren't sucked up immediately into the monoculture like everything is nowadays.
>The first hint is that, outcasts should create things for themselves, and other outcasts.
Ok, it definitely is some zoomer's post, some vague crap. Anything that's actually going to be created that won't immediately incorporated into the machine is going to be offline. It's going to be AT LEAST half a generation further along beyond the zoomers before anything like that is created because zoomers are too connected to social media.
>>243150
You don't need to be from any specific generation to have a better perspective.
>Outside the internet
Delusional in all levels. The fact that without internet we would not be having this conversation already proves that wrong.
You don't need to be from any specific generation to have a better perspective.
>Outside the internet
Delusional in all levels. The fact that without internet we would not be having this conversation already proves that wrong.
>>241493
As we see can already clearly see, the next wizards are just going to be the typical 4chan failed normies. The type of people that post on pol and r9k but don't quite fit in. They'll use the wizard title as a convenient way to fit into a group and have an identity, but they don't really believe any of it. The truth is that they're desperately obsessed with succubi and social acceptance and are just using this as a way to vent their frustrations. The second they get what they think they want, they'll turn on this place.
As we see can already clearly see, the next wizards are just going to be the typical 4chan failed normies. The type of people that post on pol and r9k but don't quite fit in. They'll use the wizard title as a convenient way to fit into a group and have an identity, but they don't really believe any of it. The truth is that they're desperately obsessed with succubi and social acceptance and are just using this as a way to vent their frustrations. The second they get what they think they want, they'll turn on this place.
>>243171
/pol/, /r9k/ and /soc/ (and other heavily normified boards) seem to be exclusively populated by what another wizard called "organic portals". They are not truly alive, they only give the appearance of such.
/pol/, /r9k/ and /soc/ (and other heavily normified boards) seem to be exclusively populated by what another wizard called "organic portals". They are not truly alive, they only give the appearance of such.
>>243172
Not with this bot nonsense again.
Look, most *people* are unimaginative drones who repeat and regurgitate the same opinions over and over.
It isn't bots. It isn't "scripts talking". That's how the everyday person actually is.
Not with this bot nonsense again.
Look, most *people* are unimaginative drones who repeat and regurgitate the same opinions over and over.
It isn't bots. It isn't "scripts talking". That's how the everyday person actually is.
>>243175
Oh, ok then. I thought you were that wizard who didn't realize they're just very boring NPC people, not bots as he claims.
Oh, ok then. I thought you were that wizard who didn't realize they're just very boring NPC people, not bots as he claims.
>>243171
This is possibly bannable but the wizard/crab "divide" is somewhat of a bogus one BUT I understand why the rules were changed AND I understand why there's no going back.
This is possibly bannable but the wizard/crab "divide" is somewhat of a bogus one BUT I understand why the rules were changed AND I understand why there's no going back.
>>243023
>"your sons are now your daughters and your daughters are now whores"
You know, as someone who consumed so much porn that I'm on tranny (and murrsuit porn) now, I'm kinda surprised at how much amateur trap porn there is. Like it's no longer just brazilian and thai trannies who circumstances lead them there, there's like a huge bunch of dudes who've left college and decided to become camgirls-with-a-dick. A lot of them look like they would've been regular scrawny nerds back in the 90s/00s…but they've turned into their imagined geek succubi…?
Like what the fuck happened in the 10s? Half the time I don't even fap to this shit, I just watch it trying to understand what the fuck happened? Did the female population decrease or something?
>"your sons are now your daughters and your daughters are now whores"
You know, as someone who consumed so much porn that I'm on tranny (and murrsuit porn) now, I'm kinda surprised at how much amateur trap porn there is. Like it's no longer just brazilian and thai trannies who circumstances lead them there, there's like a huge bunch of dudes who've left college and decided to become camgirls-with-a-dick. A lot of them look like they would've been regular scrawny nerds back in the 90s/00s…but they've turned into their imagined geek succubi…?
Like what the fuck happened in the 10s? Half the time I don't even fap to this shit, I just watch it trying to understand what the fuck happened? Did the female population decrease or something?
>>243325
>Like what the fuck happened in the 10s?
Men realized the truth about how succubi felt about them.
Objective reality started being denied.
The collapsing system caused everyone to retreat into delusion.
The trap fetish and becoming trans are new outlets for them. They're so hopelessly obsessed with succubi that they either keep trying to find substitues for them or attempt to become succubi themselves.
>Like what the fuck happened in the 10s?
Men realized the truth about how succubi felt about them.
Objective reality started being denied.
The collapsing system caused everyone to retreat into delusion.
The trap fetish and becoming trans are new outlets for them. They're so hopelessly obsessed with succubi that they either keep trying to find substitues for them or attempt to become succubi themselves.
>>243339
Why don't you just translate the last sentence into the cold hard truth.
There are too few succubi compared to the number of men. A major driving cause of it.
Why don't you just translate the last sentence into the cold hard truth.
There are too few succubi compared to the number of men. A major driving cause of it.
>>243325
female hypergamy ramped up to insane levels in the 2010s it's not just a crab meme, basically any guy below 7/10 has to find someway to cope and transitioning is a way some of them choose to go (usually the very perverted and degenerate ones)
female hypergamy ramped up to insane levels in the 2010s it's not just a crab meme, basically any guy below 7/10 has to find someway to cope and transitioning is a way some of them choose to go (usually the very perverted and degenerate ones)
>>243325
This just comes to show that the availability of porn does have a deep social effect. These kids have been raised on the most degenerate and freely accessible porn and that's the result. Sure, porn is a symptom but it's just like alcohol or drugs in that sense.
This just comes to show that the availability of porn does have a deep social effect. These kids have been raised on the most degenerate and freely accessible porn and that's the result. Sure, porn is a symptom but it's just like alcohol or drugs in that sense.
>>243090
>and vanished from everything
And replaced by higher-status people? Why is this happening even in things the higher-status people considered beneath them?
>and vanished from everything
And replaced by higher-status people? Why is this happening even in things the higher-status people considered beneath them?
>>243725
Being high status has often been seen as vulgar and being stuck up. Many of the rich and famous "slum it" and want to mingle with the little people. When you're part of the elite everyone is out to get something from you. When you're a no body you have genuine connections to people who value you for who you are. The later is something the elite want but never can get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM
Being high status has often been seen as vulgar and being stuck up. Many of the rich and famous "slum it" and want to mingle with the little people. When you're part of the elite everyone is out to get something from you. When you're a no body you have genuine connections to people who value you for who you are. The later is something the elite want but never can get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTMWgOduFM
>>243734
Yes, but t-shirt+jeans rich have only started emerging after the late 2000's.
Before that they were just as snobby as they were in the late industrial era, renaissance era or medieval era.
Rich people trying to be ordinary and blend in is a very new phenomena.
And yes, all those fur coats and lambos in public etc. are seen as extremely vulgar and low IQ in 2021.
Though on the flip side, those rich folk in their tattered shirts still do invest huge amounts of money into their homes. But nobody really sees them except themselves, their family and immediate friends.
Yes, but t-shirt+jeans rich have only started emerging after the late 2000's.
Before that they were just as snobby as they were in the late industrial era, renaissance era or medieval era.
Rich people trying to be ordinary and blend in is a very new phenomena.
And yes, all those fur coats and lambos in public etc. are seen as extremely vulgar and low IQ in 2021.
Though on the flip side, those rich folk in their tattered shirts still do invest huge amounts of money into their homes. But nobody really sees them except themselves, their family and immediate friends.
>>243736
Common people is from 1995. It's not anything new. You have the old money rich faggots who want to mingle with the poor. Then the new rich who want to show off they're rich. The old money have always tried to mingle with the poor in some fashion as long as history has been recorded.
One of the big problems today is rich people buying up poor people houses and repairing them so the poor can't do it. They turned being poor and having to fix your own home into a hobby and business venture.
Common people is from 1995. It's not anything new. You have the old money rich faggots who want to mingle with the poor. Then the new rich who want to show off they're rich. The old money have always tried to mingle with the poor in some fashion as long as history has been recorded.
One of the big problems today is rich people buying up poor people houses and repairing them so the poor can't do it. They turned being poor and having to fix your own home into a hobby and business venture.
>>243734
>Pulp - Common People
You missed the point of the song, namely rich fucks think being poor is cool from a fashion aspect, something they can dip in and then dip out once they've become bored of it.
>>243725
Subcultures no longer have gatekeepers (I think this happens to most, if not all, subcultures but thanks to the internet and the way things are going, subcultures get absorbed in the mainstream almost immediately), they've become fashions, and geek is currently fashionable. And because they no longer have gatekeepers, there are no "authenticity" checks in place and anybody can make themselves god kings or god queens of a subculture provided they have enough money, attractiveness and social pull, displacing all the original inhabitants.
>Pulp - Common People
You missed the point of the song, namely rich fucks think being poor is cool from a fashion aspect, something they can dip in and then dip out once they've become bored of it.
>>243725
Subcultures no longer have gatekeepers (I think this happens to most, if not all, subcultures but thanks to the internet and the way things are going, subcultures get absorbed in the mainstream almost immediately), they've become fashions, and geek is currently fashionable. And because they no longer have gatekeepers, there are no "authenticity" checks in place and anybody can make themselves god kings or god queens of a subculture provided they have enough money, attractiveness and social pull, displacing all the original inhabitants.
>>243090
>vanished from everything.
But didn't low-status females make up the bulk of female side of geekdom? Where would they vanish to? They can't have become housewives if they're discarded at a low level.
It's fucking strange, that I'm starting to see less and less low-status dudes in geekdom.
>vanished from everything.
But didn't low-status females make up the bulk of female side of geekdom? Where would they vanish to? They can't have become housewives if they're discarded at a low level.
It's fucking strange, that I'm starting to see less and less low-status dudes in geekdom.
>>243763
I don't know if this is just a consequence of living in a gentrified city, but I don't see low-status people anymore beyond service workers and homeless/mentally ill. The only reason I still live here is my parents bought the house way before the prices went up.
It's strange to walk outside being the only one who isn't fashionable or have clear-skin or rich.
I don't know if this is just a consequence of living in a gentrified city, but I don't see low-status people anymore beyond service workers and homeless/mentally ill. The only reason I still live here is my parents bought the house way before the prices went up.
It's strange to walk outside being the only one who isn't fashionable or have clear-skin or rich.
>>243763
Most were only superficially "low-status", and have over time managed to rejoin the herd either through fixing their minor problems or faking it. Of those that truly belonged, the overwhelming majority have either abandoned this realm via suicide or disconnected from the rest of the species wherever possible. Why bother engaging with a realm as abhorrent as this one that also continually is getting worse, when you can create your own personal utopia without even having to leave your lair?
Most were only superficially "low-status", and have over time managed to rejoin the herd either through fixing their minor problems or faking it. Of those that truly belonged, the overwhelming majority have either abandoned this realm via suicide or disconnected from the rest of the species wherever possible. Why bother engaging with a realm as abhorrent as this one that also continually is getting worse, when you can create your own personal utopia without even having to leave your lair?
>>242449
i hate trannies but just put niggers and other aggresive migrant groups on estrogen or chemically castrate so they become non aggresive slow zombies who only go to work and become shut ins in their home.
>>242459
the problem with gay rights is the tranny lovers love to propogandize boys and succubi into trannies with their acceptance and other propoganda. then you notice that mostly whites do the transitioning and then sometimes i feel like it is targeted in some ways. many people have heard stories of discord tranny cabals that want to blackmail kids into HRT
>>243763
>But didn't low-status females make up the bulk of female side of geekdom? Where would they vanish to?
Many of them are currently working in the industries that cater to geeky hobbies and are destroying them from within with feminism and SJW lobbying.
The ones who were too stupid, mentally ill and lazy to get a job are either married to some cuck or are claiming welfare and spend their days seething on crystal cafe and Twitter.
>But didn't low-status females make up the bulk of female side of geekdom? Where would they vanish to?
Many of them are currently working in the industries that cater to geeky hobbies and are destroying them from within with feminism and SJW lobbying.
The ones who were too stupid, mentally ill and lazy to get a job are either married to some cuck or are claiming welfare and spend their days seething on crystal cafe and Twitter.
>>244287
>>244249
>they still exist kinda
Not him but I don't know. I mean I have never been in any fandoms IRL and everybody having some sort of geek logo etched into their skull makes it basically impossible to tell if they're "supposed" to be a geek but all the "low-status" females I've in geekdom seem to have the common thread of being well-off enough to fix their percieved shortcomings.
>>244249
>they still exist kinda
Not him but I don't know. I mean I have never been in any fandoms IRL and everybody having some sort of geek logo etched into their skull makes it basically impossible to tell if they're "supposed" to be a geek but all the "low-status" females I've in geekdom seem to have the common thread of being well-off enough to fix their percieved shortcomings.
Everyone has friend groups, everyone's on discord.
Kids under 25 as of now calling themselves wizards are doing it in the same vain as Hot Topic shoppers calling themselves goth. They are posers, and for some reason enjoy the look. But they're far from wizards.
Kids under 25 as of now calling themselves wizards are doing it in the same vain as Hot Topic shoppers calling themselves goth. They are posers, and for some reason enjoy the look. But they're far from wizards.
>>244424
how the fuck is friendship among two wizards or other like minded people unwizardly? It's always existed and I see nothing wrong with it.
Tell me how does having male friends invalidates your virginity or wizard status?
how the fuck is friendship among two wizards or other like minded people unwizardly? It's always existed and I see nothing wrong with it.
Tell me how does having male friends invalidates your virginity or wizard status?
>>244426
You're clearly actually a wizard.
Being in a discord with 100+ people disqualifies you from wizardy in my opinion. If you hang out with one dude you've been hanging out with for like 8+ years fine, but if you're in a fast paced discord and posting on social media you are more than likely apart of a collective of normies who like to go on r9k and pretend to be a social outcast because apparently being retarded is the new thing now. People faking ticks, tourettes, diseases, and why would they not fake being a wizard? Thats why this site exists, because posers came to r9k and flooded it with gf shit.
You're clearly actually a wizard.
Being in a discord with 100+ people disqualifies you from wizardy in my opinion. If you hang out with one dude you've been hanging out with for like 8+ years fine, but if you're in a fast paced discord and posting on social media you are more than likely apart of a collective of normies who like to go on r9k and pretend to be a social outcast because apparently being retarded is the new thing now. People faking ticks, tourettes, diseases, and why would they not fake being a wizard? Thats why this site exists, because posers came to r9k and flooded it with gf shit.
>>244428
>>244429
How exactly you become an unvirgin because you hang out with some friends, or enjoy the company of other people like you even in a setting like discord?
Now you stop being a virgin because you suddenly chat in a discord that has 100 people? Aylmao, the shit I have to read on Wizchan. Your virginity can't be stolen for discussing about your interests with others, not on discords with 100 or 9000 or 1000000 people, or if you made a post on social media, the things you mention don't matter and have nothing to do with wizardry.
>>244429
How exactly you become an unvirgin because you hang out with some friends, or enjoy the company of other people like you even in a setting like discord?
Now you stop being a virgin because you suddenly chat in a discord that has 100 people? Aylmao, the shit I have to read on Wizchan. Your virginity can't be stolen for discussing about your interests with others, not on discords with 100 or 9000 or 1000000 people, or if you made a post on social media, the things you mention don't matter and have nothing to do with wizardry.
>>244426
This is friction caused by the definition of wizard as 'hikikomori/neet' and wizard as 'adult male virgin'
Hikikomoris/neets are 1st class wizards, while adult male virgins are less wizard than them.
It's not how I would write the rules, but that's how it is. Maybe I outgrew this site.
This is friction caused by the definition of wizard as 'hikikomori/neet' and wizard as 'adult male virgin'
Hikikomoris/neets are 1st class wizards, while adult male virgins are less wizard than them.
It's not how I would write the rules, but that's how it is. Maybe I outgrew this site.
>>244430
there is just different tiers of wizards…if you still crave a need for socialization you are obviously not as wizardly as the loner who never speaks to anyone
there is just different tiers of wizards…if you still crave a need for socialization you are obviously not as wizardly as the loner who never speaks to anyone
>>244431
>>244432
caring that much about wizardry like you do is not wizardly at all. Wizards just live their lives, you think the outcast wizard who doesn't even know about this shit site where the majority aren't even actual 30 year olds but 25 and under, is bragging about the fact of being an outcast or his friendless status to others or thinking about normalfags with an air of superiority?
>>244432
caring that much about wizardry like you do is not wizardly at all. Wizards just live their lives, you think the outcast wizard who doesn't even know about this shit site where the majority aren't even actual 30 year olds but 25 and under, is bragging about the fact of being an outcast or his friendless status to others or thinking about normalfags with an air of superiority?
>>244434
Caring is a strong word. I think the most any of us has done was express opinions, that at our assumed ages can allow us to change and or double down those opinions. That being said what >>244431 said is hitting the nail on the head. So I'd like to apolgize for overstepping and saying you're not a wizard. I guess I should have said I'm a dusty pathetic ultra wizard.
Caring is a strong word. I think the most any of us has done was express opinions, that at our assumed ages can allow us to change and or double down those opinions. That being said what >>244431 said is hitting the nail on the head. So I'd like to apolgize for overstepping and saying you're not a wizard. I guess I should have said I'm a dusty pathetic ultra wizard.
>>244435
You're concerned with what is wizardly or not, who is more wizard than other wizards, in your mind there exists a hierarchy of wizardry and based on that you judge other virgins on this site and express your thoughts accordingly.
Caring about wizardry like that, is not only unwizardly, but also stupid. Why would you waste your time like that?
You're concerned with what is wizardly or not, who is more wizard than other wizards, in your mind there exists a hierarchy of wizardry and based on that you judge other virgins on this site and express your thoughts accordingly.
Caring about wizardry like that, is not only unwizardly, but also stupid. Why would you waste your time like that?
>>244436
Concern is the same as caring, and I've expressed that feeling hasn't been expressed once by me in this thread. I'll assume you're on the spectrum and explain things further; all human life on earth have a set amount of opinions and thoughts and as they live life and learn new things they grow and change those opinions. Like I said, I'm old. Discord didn't exist when I was your age. The most we had was mIRC and that was to find pugs in Counter-Strike. There is no hierarchy, only losing more humanity. I can see how you could misconstrue my jokey self deprecation to me feeling "more" than you. That is not the case, I was merely jokingly expressing how I've seemed to gone way off the deep end of solitude.
Concern is the same as caring, and I've expressed that feeling hasn't been expressed once by me in this thread. I'll assume you're on the spectrum and explain things further; all human life on earth have a set amount of opinions and thoughts and as they live life and learn new things they grow and change those opinions. Like I said, I'm old. Discord didn't exist when I was your age. The most we had was mIRC and that was to find pugs in Counter-Strike. There is no hierarchy, only losing more humanity. I can see how you could misconstrue my jokey self deprecation to me feeling "more" than you. That is not the case, I was merely jokingly expressing how I've seemed to gone way off the deep end of solitude.
>>244437
>expressing my thoughts defending what I believe is more wizardly doesn't translate in me caring about wizardry in the least, it's just an opinion
same thing, nobody should give two shits about wizardry. You should unironically be yourself and if that is an asocial virgin then good, if not, that's good too.
>expressing my thoughts defending what I believe is more wizardly doesn't translate in me caring about wizardry in the least, it's just an opinion
same thing, nobody should give two shits about wizardry. You should unironically be yourself and if that is an asocial virgin then good, if not, that's good too.
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>>241493
We're the last of our kin. If anything, we should be proud to have lived through magic and arcane arts. We are magic and magic dies with us.
Feel pride fellow wizchad.
We're the last of our kin. If anything, we should be proud to have lived through magic and arcane arts. We are magic and magic dies with us.
Feel pride fellow wizchad.
I think maybe, ironically, wizards have to grow up because like the world seems to becoming more and more juvenile as the days go by.
>the wizpill is that there was never any wizards in the first place, most long-term users of this site are only still in their early to mid 20s
>they were teens and this was an after school joke for them in 2014 which is why everyone thought it would be ok to have cripple wheels as admin when he was a literal 18 year old
>this site now is more like a "dark side of early tumblr" for zoomers with confused sexual identities
the average "virgin" here is only one because he is a hopeless perverted coomer with a brain fried by 2d porn
>they were teens and this was an after school joke for them in 2014 which is why everyone thought it would be ok to have cripple wheels as admin when he was a literal 18 year old
>this site now is more like a "dark side of early tumblr" for zoomers with confused sexual identities
the average "virgin" here is only one because he is a hopeless perverted coomer with a brain fried by 2d porn
>>245409
Some are also frauds who have been with succubi or escorts but are just lonely. The site is a joke now.
Some are also frauds who have been with succubi or escorts but are just lonely. The site is a joke now.
>>245415
There were a lot of crabs when the first version of wizardchan was new so yes I think so.
There were a lot of crabs when the first version of wizardchan was new so yes I think so.
>>245415
wizchan would not exist without crabs, the term inncel was synonymous with wizardry until gamergate and kiwifarms trolls came in here with the volcel monk larp
wizchan would not exist without crabs, the term inncel was synonymous with wizardry until gamergate and kiwifarms trolls came in here with the volcel monk larp
>>245409
>the average "virgin" here is only one because he is a hopeless perverted coomer with a brain fried by 2d porn
And who, by your measure, is the most morally superior form of virgin? The incel? The asexual?
>the average "virgin" here is only one because he is a hopeless perverted coomer with a brain fried by 2d porn
And who, by your measure, is the most morally superior form of virgin? The incel? The asexual?
>>245424
i can't really tell anymore, in my view wizardry is dead and has been dead for a long time
7 years ago when i was 24 there were people here posting about being near or over 30, they had real problems and seemed like real people that i could relate to but they aren't here anymore which means they moved on or it was all larpers from the start
long story short, the people who don't belong here have "won" by integrating themselves into wizchan memes fully
anyone who still comes here is getting a 2nd/3rd rate experience of what wizchan was and could've been
its nothing but bitter failed normies here trying to one-up each other while they assimilate into society
i can't really tell anymore, in my view wizardry is dead and has been dead for a long time
7 years ago when i was 24 there were people here posting about being near or over 30, they had real problems and seemed like real people that i could relate to but they aren't here anymore which means they moved on or it was all larpers from the start
long story short, the people who don't belong here have "won" by integrating themselves into wizchan memes fully
anyone who still comes here is getting a 2nd/3rd rate experience of what wizchan was and could've been
its nothing but bitter failed normies here trying to one-up each other while they assimilate into society
>>245425
>its nothing but bitter failed normies here trying to one-up each other while they assimilate into society
Probably because being wizard for most people is hell, not really something to strive for.
There are maybe a couple hundred individuals in the world who could really enjoy it. Most others are there by necessity.
There's a reason why they taper off so quickly after 30 or just disappear. Some become normies, others kill themselves, some go insane.
After all the site rules do say you just need to be 18.
It's somewhat tolerable during 18-29 though painful, but it just gets worse and worse each year after that *for the average person*.
Some people here enjoy it, but if I had to bet money on it, the vast majority did not choose this fate.
It was thrust upon them by things like poor genetics (bad face, short stature, physical deformities, non-neurotypical or autistic brains etc)
The cold reality being if most wizards (or rather apprentices since so few are actually 30) could press a button to end their current state of existence they would.
This is really nothing more than a coping group for those who already get kicked and punched for being down by the rest of society.
Which is why it is very valuable and vital as a help tool as well. It at least gives a minor avenue for communicating feelings.
Ban those who become normies, but do not demonize them, because younger users have no idea how hellish the years can get as time flies.
>its nothing but bitter failed normies here trying to one-up each other while they assimilate into society
Probably because being wizard for most people is hell, not really something to strive for.
There are maybe a couple hundred individuals in the world who could really enjoy it. Most others are there by necessity.
There's a reason why they taper off so quickly after 30 or just disappear. Some become normies, others kill themselves, some go insane.
After all the site rules do say you just need to be 18.
It's somewhat tolerable during 18-29 though painful, but it just gets worse and worse each year after that *for the average person*.
Some people here enjoy it, but if I had to bet money on it, the vast majority did not choose this fate.
It was thrust upon them by things like poor genetics (bad face, short stature, physical deformities, non-neurotypical or autistic brains etc)
The cold reality being if most wizards (or rather apprentices since so few are actually 30) could press a button to end their current state of existence they would.
This is really nothing more than a coping group for those who already get kicked and punched for being down by the rest of society.
Which is why it is very valuable and vital as a help tool as well. It at least gives a minor avenue for communicating feelings.
Ban those who become normies, but do not demonize them, because younger users have no idea how hellish the years can get as time flies.
>>245432
>The cold reality being if most wizards (or rather apprentices since so few are actually 30) could press a button to end their current state of existence they would.
this is a nonsensical argument and you should stop using it. that's like saying if the ancient romans were given nukes they would have dropped them on carthage. ok. an if my grandmother had wheels…
>The cold reality being if most wizards (or rather apprentices since so few are actually 30) could press a button to end their current state of existence they would.
this is a nonsensical argument and you should stop using it. that's like saying if the ancient romans were given nukes they would have dropped them on carthage. ok. an if my grandmother had wheels…
>>245425
If you’re talking about original wizardchan that place was filled with crabs and trannies, I don’t understand why people fetishize it so much, it’s either larping or nostalgia where they forgot the >tfwnogf posting, early tranny posting, and 3d gay porn in the fap thread
If you’re talking about original wizardchan that place was filled with crabs and trannies, I don’t understand why people fetishize it so much, it’s either larping or nostalgia where they forgot the >tfwnogf posting, early tranny posting, and 3d gay porn in the fap thread
>>245450
Oh yeah and forgot to mention the admin back then was a fucking 19 year old who ended up having sex, and then glaive a kiwifarms admin who also was a kid who wasn’t a virgin, starting to make me mad actually that people think that old place was ever wizardly
Oh yeah and forgot to mention the admin back then was a fucking 19 year old who ended up having sex, and then glaive a kiwifarms admin who also was a kid who wasn’t a virgin, starting to make me mad actually that people think that old place was ever wizardly
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That wasn't the case at all, all the crabs came from kiwifarms and gamergate. The average wizardchan post was a philosophical essay compared to today.
That wasn't the case at all, all the crabs came from kiwifarms and gamergate. The average wizardchan post was a philosophical essay compared to today.
>>245453
>crabs came from gamergate and kiwifarms
That is a massive assumption, I understand why this site wants to distance itself from crabs but to claim that crabs are some kind of invasive species rather than something is innate to these kinds of imageboards is too far.
>crabs came from gamergate and kiwifarms
That is a massive assumption, I understand why this site wants to distance itself from crabs but to claim that crabs are some kind of invasive species rather than something is innate to these kinds of imageboards is too far.
All wizards were crabs in their teens. No way around biology at that age. If you made it through college without having sex then you can either keep crying about being a crab or just choose to call yourself a volcel to lessen the damage to your ego.
>>245453
>The average wizardchan post was a philosophical essay
lmao, ok you're trolling, every poster back then was a teenager or early-mid twentie, max, and they were not writing anything of the sort, unless there were some big brain 30+ philosopher monks in 2011-2012 that just disappeared instantly in 2013
>>245455
nope, never wanted to have sex with anyone, this is just a massive projection that crabs always do, they can't even comprehend that anyone could have never wanted to have sex, plenty of real wizards never wanted to have the burden of interacting with anyone, let alone some leeching annoying meatbag attached to you
>The average wizardchan post was a philosophical essay
lmao, ok you're trolling, every poster back then was a teenager or early-mid twentie, max, and they were not writing anything of the sort, unless there were some big brain 30+ philosopher monks in 2011-2012 that just disappeared instantly in 2013
>>245455
nope, never wanted to have sex with anyone, this is just a massive projection that crabs always do, they can't even comprehend that anyone could have never wanted to have sex, plenty of real wizards never wanted to have the burden of interacting with anyone, let alone some leeching annoying meatbag attached to you
>nope, never wanted to have sex with anyone
So you never watched porn or masturbated either?
>this is just a massive projection that crabs always do, they can't even comprehend that anyone could have never wanted to have sex
Not a projection, this is basic biology. You're trying to convince others you're some kind of an alien. No one's buying it.
So you never watched porn or masturbated either?
>this is just a massive projection that crabs always do, they can't even comprehend that anyone could have never wanted to have sex
Not a projection, this is basic biology. You're trying to convince others you're some kind of an alien. No one's buying it.
>>245457
>So you never watched porn or masturbated either?
finding something attractive doesn't mean you physically want to interact with that thing
>Not a projection, this is basic biology. You're trying to convince others you're some kind of an alien. No one's buying it.
literally projection, not like anyone will ever convince you crabs though, go get a hooker or sign up for whatever app kids are using to have sex these days
>So you never watched porn or masturbated either?
finding something attractive doesn't mean you physically want to interact with that thing
>Not a projection, this is basic biology. You're trying to convince others you're some kind of an alien. No one's buying it.
literally projection, not like anyone will ever convince you crabs though, go get a hooker or sign up for whatever app kids are using to have sex these days
>>245464
crab rage, you probably lost your virginity to some pathetic whore and now project your worldview on everyone else
crab rage, you probably lost your virginity to some pathetic whore and now project your worldview on everyone else
Volcel is a term I would save only for monastic monks who have spent 20 years meditating on overcoming sexual desire. Compared to them everyone here is an inncel.
>>245469
There are tons of frauds who come here despite having slept with several succubi.
They only use it as a venue to avoid loneliness and blatantly break the #1 rule of the site.
Feeling lonely does not make you a wizard.
I don't know how these people live with themselves. Leave us alone, jesus christ.
There are tons of frauds who come here despite having slept with several succubi.
They only use it as a venue to avoid loneliness and blatantly break the #1 rule of the site.
Feeling lonely does not make you a wizard.
I don't know how these people live with themselves. Leave us alone, jesus christ.
I still don't understand why sexhavers post here. There are other alt-chans where they would fit in a lot better.
>>245490
>There are tons of frauds who come here despite having slept with several succubi.
I'm willing to bet that they're all (WAY) under 30.
Ignoring the gamergate incident, the fact we have teen wizkids telling much older wizards (or even the 30+ crabs) that THEY are the real wizards despite being so integrated into social media and society, is a problem. Doesn't anyone find it curious that the wizkids just evaporate before their late 20s?
>There are tons of frauds who come here despite having slept with several succubi.
I'm willing to bet that they're all (WAY) under 30.
Ignoring the gamergate incident, the fact we have teen wizkids telling much older wizards (or even the 30+ crabs) that THEY are the real wizards despite being so integrated into social media and society, is a problem. Doesn't anyone find it curious that the wizkids just evaporate before their late 20s?
>>245497
I don't know. Some probably flake out of wizarddom in their 30s and "normify" but still falsely keep coming here out of habit despite having been with a girI.
Though I don't know how we could gatekeep the site to keep them away, I guess it's physically impossible. They talk about it on Discord and it's stupid.
I don't know. Some probably flake out of wizarddom in their 30s and "normify" but still falsely keep coming here out of habit despite having been with a girI.
Though I don't know how we could gatekeep the site to keep them away, I guess it's physically impossible. They talk about it on Discord and it's stupid.
>>245496
I agree, I mean it's literally the point of the site. If you break rule#1 (at any point of your adult life) you should simply stop coming here and forget the site exists.
Stop fucking it up for us who still try to have a tight knit community here.
I agree, I mean it's literally the point of the site. If you break rule#1 (at any point of your adult life) you should simply stop coming here and forget the site exists.
Stop fucking it up for us who still try to have a tight knit community here.
>>245497
most likely the ones who are faking virginity are older, late twenties or early thirties crabs who finally built up a little courage and got a hooker or something and then they regret it and go back to being a “wizard”
most likely the ones who are faking virginity are older, late twenties or early thirties crabs who finally built up a little courage and got a hooker or something and then they regret it and go back to being a “wizard”
>>245503
Except it's not a club you can just return to after doing the things you mentioned.
They should fuck off and not return to this site.
Except it's not a club you can just return to after doing the things you mentioned.
They should fuck off and not return to this site.
>>245503
You can't just "go back to being wizard" once you lost virginity.
That's like a radical muslim trying entering a closed catholic priesthood, monastery or covenant. It's ridiculous even on an idea level. You don't belong now.
Like so many people already said, just leave if that is the case. Don't mention this place on Discord, erase it from your site history and go on other forums.
Being wizard doesn't mean you are bored at home and have nothing to do than post here.
You can't just "go back to being wizard" once you lost virginity.
That's like a radical muslim trying entering a closed catholic priesthood, monastery or covenant. It's ridiculous even on an idea level. You don't belong now.
Like so many people already said, just leave if that is the case. Don't mention this place on Discord, erase it from your site history and go on other forums.
Being wizard doesn't mean you are bored at home and have nothing to do than post here.
>>245515
>>245504
>>245503
>most likely the ones who are faking virginity are older, late twenties or early thirties crabs
I'm almost certain they're not, they're more likely zoomers. It's like that with a lot forums now, unless the forum has a solidified older userbase (which close to impossible for an imageboard), it gets overrun by younger retards.
>>245504
>>245503
>most likely the ones who are faking virginity are older, late twenties or early thirties crabs
I'm almost certain they're not, they're more likely zoomers. It's like that with a lot forums now, unless the forum has a solidified older userbase (which close to impossible for an imageboard), it gets overrun by younger retards.
>>245504
>They should fuck off and not return to this site.
doesnt matter because even if they get banned they can just post here on a proxy, no way to get rid of people like this, only thing we got is that they cant talk about it
>>245506
no it's just based on a few people I've talked to that I've met from here over the years
>>245515
>You can't just "go back to being wizard" once you lost virginity.
clearly, I meant that's the mindset these people have, not that I agree with it, these people should be banned obviously
>>245516
haven't met a single younger person from here that has had sex, it's always the older guys who had sex a couple times or tried to have a relationship and decided they didn't care about it
>They should fuck off and not return to this site.
doesnt matter because even if they get banned they can just post here on a proxy, no way to get rid of people like this, only thing we got is that they cant talk about it
>>245506
no it's just based on a few people I've talked to that I've met from here over the years
>>245515
>You can't just "go back to being wizard" once you lost virginity.
clearly, I meant that's the mindset these people have, not that I agree with it, these people should be banned obviously
>>245516
haven't met a single younger person from here that has had sex, it's always the older guys who had sex a couple times or tried to have a relationship and decided they didn't care about it
>>245517
Well that crushes my illusion then that there could even be 40-50 year old wizards who never touched a succubus in their lives.
Most probably crack in their late 20s but as they don't have many social platforms to post on, they just stay silent and keep posting here.
I'm 24 and I will be a wizard until I die, and I hope all other posters here would as well.
Well that crushes my illusion then that there could even be 40-50 year old wizards who never touched a succubus in their lives.
Most probably crack in their late 20s but as they don't have many social platforms to post on, they just stay silent and keep posting here.
I'm 24 and I will be a wizard until I die, and I hope all other posters here would as well.
>>245519
I'm pretty certain I'll be a wizard until I die and I'm slightly older than you, unless somehow I end up being raped by a violent criminal, but I never leave the house. I dont really know what would happen if I was forced to live on the street, what if your only option is to sell your body(have heard of that happening here as well)
I'm pretty certain I'll be a wizard until I die and I'm slightly older than you, unless somehow I end up being raped by a violent criminal, but I never leave the house. I dont really know what would happen if I was forced to live on the street, what if your only option is to sell your body(have heard of that happening here as well)
>>245517
>haven't met a single younger person from here that has had sex
How would you even know? Why would they tell you? It would ruin their imageboard fun.
The crab/wizard divide has been disastrous for older virgins on forums. The way things are set up, all wizchan has is LARPing teen and early 20s wizards who disappear.
>>245519
>I'm 24
>haven't met a single younger person from here that has had sex
How would you even know? Why would they tell you? It would ruin their imageboard fun.
The crab/wizard divide has been disastrous for older virgins on forums. The way things are set up, all wizchan has is LARPing teen and early 20s wizards who disappear.
>>245519
>I'm 24
>>245521
>How would you even know? Why would they tell you?
dunno, the older people felt the need to tell me after a while, I'd assume it would be the same for the younger people
>LARPing teen and early 20s wizards
everyone is a teenager and early 20s at some point in their lives, I'd say if you are truly a wizard your age doesn't even matter, I'd rather have 20 year olds who are genuinely not interested in sex/relationshits than 30 year olds that were crabs until they fucked a prostitute
>who disappear
you mean they get older and are no longer young teens and early 20s
>How would you even know? Why would they tell you?
dunno, the older people felt the need to tell me after a while, I'd assume it would be the same for the younger people
>LARPing teen and early 20s wizards
everyone is a teenager and early 20s at some point in their lives, I'd say if you are truly a wizard your age doesn't even matter, I'd rather have 20 year olds who are genuinely not interested in sex/relationshits than 30 year olds that were crabs until they fucked a prostitute
>who disappear
you mean they get older and are no longer young teens and early 20s
>>245522
>you mean they get older and are no longer young teens and early 20s
No, I mean they disappear. Somehow there's all these "apprentices" and yet the population of actual wizards never goes up here or on a couple of other forums I frequent.
>I'd rather have 20 year olds who are genuinely not interested in sex/relationshits
>genuinely
Supposedly.
>you mean they get older and are no longer young teens and early 20s
No, I mean they disappear. Somehow there's all these "apprentices" and yet the population of actual wizards never goes up here or on a couple of other forums I frequent.
>I'd rather have 20 year olds who are genuinely not interested in sex/relationshits
>genuinely
Supposedly.
>>245522
once you get to wizard age your libido lowers and you are less likely to pursue relationships as you get older, anyone not around 30 now will probably never become a wizard as zoomers have increasingly more chances of getting laid nowadays
once you get to wizard age your libido lowers and you are less likely to pursue relationships as you get older, anyone not around 30 now will probably never become a wizard as zoomers have increasingly more chances of getting laid nowadays
>>245524
>zoomers have increasingly more chances of getting laid nowadays
what no
the easier it gets for succubi to hook up with the top men, the more men at the bottom won't be able to get succubi
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>>245532
No he isn't. About 70% even of (male) university students are crabs these days.
And only 34% of men reported having sex during their time in university while for succubi the number was 47%…
>only 11% were celibate by choice
Meaning there is a group of "chads" that goes through a considerable number of succubi, while the vast majority get nothing.
You are beyond screwed in todays world as a male if you are not handsome-faced, tall with a chiseled body. You do not exist to succubi.
The only role you can ever get in life is to be a provider while she cheats on you, if you get a six figure salary.
>>245532
No he isn't. About 70% even of (male) university students are crabs these days.
And only 34% of men reported having sex during their time in university while for succubi the number was 47%…
>only 11% were celibate by choice
Meaning there is a group of "chads" that goes through a considerable number of succubi, while the vast majority get nothing.
You are beyond screwed in todays world as a male if you are not handsome-faced, tall with a chiseled body. You do not exist to succubi.
The only role you can ever get in life is to be a provider while she cheats on you, if you get a six figure salary.
>>245525
>>245546
Come on man, a handful of selected studies for catchy headlines. This ain't Japan bro, my tv is full of sexual/relationship content before watershed.
And the social media feeds are just a fucking and sucking feed cycle 24/7. Porn has become more degenerate under the zoomer generation.
>>245546
Come on man, a handful of selected studies for catchy headlines. This ain't Japan bro, my tv is full of sexual/relationship content before watershed.
And the social media feeds are just a fucking and sucking feed cycle 24/7. Porn has become more degenerate under the zoomer generation.
>>245551
>my tv is full of sexual/relationship content before watershed.
>And the social media feeds are just a fucking and sucking feed cycle 24/7. Porn has become more degenerate under the zoomer generation.
Yes of course. But what's your point with mentioning these things?
Do you mean that these things make it easier to attract succubi?
>>245552
Means people have less social hang ups and more avenues of hooking up. I mean more people have to be fucking and sucking if we're overloaded with niche porn and a constant stream of new amatuer pornstars.
Means people have less social hang ups and more avenues of hooking up. I mean more people have to be fucking and sucking if we're overloaded with niche porn and a constant stream of new amatuer pornstars.
>>245553
>Means people have less social hang ups and more avenues of hooking up.
This doesn't help the ones who struggle to attract succubi, if anything it makes it harder because the ones who can attract succubi will just get even more succubi.
>Means people have less social hang ups and more avenues of hooking up.
This doesn't help the ones who struggle to attract succubi, if anything it makes it harder because the ones who can attract succubi will just get even more succubi.
>>245553
> I mean more people have to be fucking and sucking if we're overloaded with niche porn and a constant stream of new amatuer pornstars.
There doesn't need to be more people having sex for that, just a larger portion of sex-havers making porn.
> I mean more people have to be fucking and sucking if we're overloaded with niche porn and a constant stream of new amatuer pornstars.
There doesn't need to be more people having sex for that, just a larger portion of sex-havers making porn.
Speaking of sex and social media, there was something I saw that I can't parse.
I used to play GTA online with this dude I used to know from work. Ok—-ish dude, but a retard, the kind of retard who would lose his password to any of his accounts of anything and would re-buy them after failing to figure out password hints. Popular too. Only ever played GTA Online and FIFA but would bandwagon on whatever was the hot shit of the year and forget about it in a month.
I checked out on what was his 4th account to see what games he'd been playing at that time and I noticed he had only one friend on the account. I assumed it was his succubus's account, but when I opened it, the description read like a twitchwhore's account complete with a donation link at the bottom.
Either his succubus was a twitchwhore OR he follows a twitchwhore. And in both instances I have no clue why that is. He was a popular meathead so it's not like he had to resort to this.
I used to play GTA online with this dude I used to know from work. Ok—-ish dude, but a retard, the kind of retard who would lose his password to any of his accounts of anything and would re-buy them after failing to figure out password hints. Popular too. Only ever played GTA Online and FIFA but would bandwagon on whatever was the hot shit of the year and forget about it in a month.
I checked out on what was his 4th account to see what games he'd been playing at that time and I noticed he had only one friend on the account. I assumed it was his succubus's account, but when I opened it, the description read like a twitchwhore's account complete with a donation link at the bottom.
Either his succubus was a twitchwhore OR he follows a twitchwhore. And in both instances I have no clue why that is. He was a popular meathead so it's not like he had to resort to this.
Was there ever a "wizard culture", though? The chans were dominated by highly socialized people from the start.
>>245564
>Was there ever a "wizard culture", though?
It might seem odd to be be asking this but: What are you asking exactly?
>The chans were dominated by highly socialized people from the start.
Kinda depends on how you're looking at it. Most of the regular forums I used to visit in the late 90s and 00s were full of social retards who formed their own groups.
>Was there ever a "wizard culture", though?
It might seem odd to be be asking this but: What are you asking exactly?
>The chans were dominated by highly socialized people from the start.
Kinda depends on how you're looking at it. Most of the regular forums I used to visit in the late 90s and 00s were full of social retards who formed their own groups.
>>245564
wiz culture died with wizardchan, killed off by kiwifarmers and gamergate
the last person that cared for this site sold it in 2016 for $500, its been a normalfag psyop ever since
wiz culture died with wizardchan, killed off by kiwifarmers and gamergate
the last person that cared for this site sold it in 2016 for $500, its been a normalfag psyop ever since
>>245564
Being a wizard is the result of living in a culture of rejection. I hate seeing so many successful people post here and larp as being one of us. There's no way you can be a white-collar worker who makes tons of money and still be a virgin. It's just not possible. The real wizards see through this pretty easily and ultimately this site loses more people because it's seen as a joke.
Being a wizard is the result of living in a culture of rejection. I hate seeing so many successful people post here and larp as being one of us. There's no way you can be a white-collar worker who makes tons of money and still be a virgin. It's just not possible. The real wizards see through this pretty easily and ultimately this site loses more people because it's seen as a joke.
>>243369
Gone are the days of finding a softcore porn mag in the bushes. Now it's super hardcore degenerate porno vids online with bizarre insane identity politics attached to justify their degeneracy.
Gone are the days of finding a softcore porn mag in the bushes. Now it's super hardcore degenerate porno vids online with bizarre insane identity politics attached to justify their degeneracy.
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>>241493
>>241493
Hello there wizzie I am 19 years old and apprentice at the time. I have never held hands with a succubus, they usually find me repulsive and laugh behind my back because my crooked nose my acne and my obsessive compulsive disorder and regarding other males they simply don't want to do anything with me because it would mean doom for their social status. So I am in the path to acquiring powers as you can tell. But I am as concerned as you. Maybe it's because I live in a third-world country (Ecuador) but I haven't met anyone in the same situation. I feel like our numbers are dropping for some reason or maybe it's just that now it's more difficult to tell apart a wizard from a normie because normies pretend to have mental illnesses and like our hobbies when they just want the attention it brings them in social media or their social circles. Maybe sites like wizchan will die eventually, maybe they will be reborn or perhaps replaced by an alternative. I sincerely hope wizardom lives on and with it its wisdom because there will be a time when outcasts like us reemerge and they will need guidance.
>>241493
Hello there wizzie I am 19 years old and apprentice at the time. I have never held hands with a succubus, they usually find me repulsive and laugh behind my back because my crooked nose my acne and my obsessive compulsive disorder and regarding other males they simply don't want to do anything with me because it would mean doom for their social status. So I am in the path to acquiring powers as you can tell. But I am as concerned as you. Maybe it's because I live in a third-world country (Ecuador) but I haven't met anyone in the same situation. I feel like our numbers are dropping for some reason or maybe it's just that now it's more difficult to tell apart a wizard from a normie because normies pretend to have mental illnesses and like our hobbies when they just want the attention it brings them in social media or their social circles. Maybe sites like wizchan will die eventually, maybe they will be reborn or perhaps replaced by an alternative. I sincerely hope wizardom lives on and with it its wisdom because there will be a time when outcasts like us reemerge and they will need guidance.
>>245592
>the last person that cared for this site sold it in 2016 for $500, its been a normalfag psyop ever since
Sad to hear it.
>the last person that cared for this site sold it in 2016 for $500, its been a normalfag psyop ever since
Sad to hear it.
>>241493
I don't understand what you mean. there are more wizards now than ever before. Anywhere from 25-50% of the male population are crabs or strugglers now.
I don't understand what you mean. there are more wizards now than ever before. Anywhere from 25-50% of the male population are crabs or strugglers now.
>>245849
Letting them in?
They'll brute force their way in. Or trick the gullible into letting them in.
Letting them in?
They'll brute force their way in. Or trick the gullible into letting them in.
>>241906
This is extreme wishful thinking, all porn gives is momentary sexual release, the eternal male struggle for female validation and intimacy will never go away and is only getting worse as more men get deselected. These succubi aren't devalued in any capacity because millions of guys would still love to get together with them if they could.
This is extreme wishful thinking, all porn gives is momentary sexual release, the eternal male struggle for female validation and intimacy will never go away and is only getting worse as more men get deselected. These succubi aren't devalued in any capacity because millions of guys would still love to get together with them if they could.
>>243343
Too few womyn?
… What the hell are you talking about?
>>243352
Yeah it's weird, remember the "pickup artist" thing was popular just before then, book written in 2005.. Millions of guys jumped on it, so now the PUA culture is demonized as well.
All men are bad now - crabs, depression, wannabe-PUAs, MGTOWs, redpill "players"…
I'll always remember Anthony Cumia, Tiger Woods, Elon Musk's wife LITERALLY REFUSING THE $80 MILLION SETTLEMENT because she wanted stock in his companies despite a prenup. And obviously Bezos, he took one of the biggest losses in history. Older guys all say never, ever, ever get married.
And you risk… sexless marriage, divorce, alimony, lose your kids, rape/abuse allegations, emotional abuse.
It's a shocking reversal from the 1950s and it's kinda hard for me to see who is really running this. In Canada our prostitution law was fully 100% reversed… twice. Made it fully illegal, then fully legal again I think. Point being, they could do the same with the divorce laws and so-on if conditions were right. I know everyone thinks the Jews and feminists control everything, but.. I have to maintain hope. It sucks that ALL conservative movements seem to come off as psycho in the mainstream.
Too few womyn?
… What the hell are you talking about?
>>243352
Yeah it's weird, remember the "pickup artist" thing was popular just before then, book written in 2005.. Millions of guys jumped on it, so now the PUA culture is demonized as well.
All men are bad now - crabs, depression, wannabe-PUAs, MGTOWs, redpill "players"…
I'll always remember Anthony Cumia, Tiger Woods, Elon Musk's wife LITERALLY REFUSING THE $80 MILLION SETTLEMENT because she wanted stock in his companies despite a prenup. And obviously Bezos, he took one of the biggest losses in history. Older guys all say never, ever, ever get married.
And you risk… sexless marriage, divorce, alimony, lose your kids, rape/abuse allegations, emotional abuse.
It's a shocking reversal from the 1950s and it's kinda hard for me to see who is really running this. In Canada our prostitution law was fully 100% reversed… twice. Made it fully illegal, then fully legal again I think. Point being, they could do the same with the divorce laws and so-on if conditions were right. I know everyone thinks the Jews and feminists control everything, but.. I have to maintain hope. It sucks that ALL conservative movements seem to come off as psycho in the mainstream.
>>246003
>And you risk… sexless marriage, divorce, alimony, lose your kids, rape/abuse allegations, emotional abuse.
Forgot my main point. All the "risks" from marriage were there BEFORE the 2010s and now it's much worse
everyone is bananas now because of Twitter, they all think they are youtuber politicians
it's also normal to be a whore (onlyfans), sugar baby, read a story a while back that a good portion of college succubi tried porn to pay for college, porn is totally normalized
Now the tranny thing is out of control.
PornHub is out of control too, guys openly whoring out their girlfriends. Degeneracy is not only the new norm, it's technized. So PornHub people copy positions, fantasies, etc. from the WHOLE internet in order to compete for views, and then the viewers watch it and get their girlfriends to do it. A homemade porn video used to be kinda cool, now they're essentially youtubers.
This is massive social delusion/experiment brought on by technology. It's like they released iPhones into the concentration camps, they are controlling peoples' minds with these things. Nobody goes outside…
>And you risk… sexless marriage, divorce, alimony, lose your kids, rape/abuse allegations, emotional abuse.
Forgot my main point. All the "risks" from marriage were there BEFORE the 2010s and now it's much worse
everyone is bananas now because of Twitter, they all think they are youtuber politicians
it's also normal to be a whore (onlyfans), sugar baby, read a story a while back that a good portion of college succubi tried porn to pay for college, porn is totally normalized
Now the tranny thing is out of control.
PornHub is out of control too, guys openly whoring out their girlfriends. Degeneracy is not only the new norm, it's technized. So PornHub people copy positions, fantasies, etc. from the WHOLE internet in order to compete for views, and then the viewers watch it and get their girlfriends to do it. A homemade porn video used to be kinda cool, now they're essentially youtubers.
This is massive social delusion/experiment brought on by technology. It's like they released iPhones into the concentration camps, they are controlling peoples' minds with these things. Nobody goes outside…
?>>246003
>Elon Musk's wife LITERALLY REFUSING THE $80 MILLION SETTLEMENT because she wanted stock in his companies despite a prenup. And obviously Bezos, he took one of the biggest losses in history. Older guys all say never, ever, ever get married.
It's hard to feel sympathy for those demons who want to make wageslaves out of everybody.
>Elon Musk's wife LITERALLY REFUSING THE $80 MILLION SETTLEMENT because she wanted stock in his companies despite a prenup. And obviously Bezos, he took one of the biggest losses in history. Older guys all say never, ever, ever get married.
It's hard to feel sympathy for those demons who want to make wageslaves out of everybody.
>>246003
>I know everyone thinks the Jews and feminists control everything, but.. I have to maintain hope.
You honestly think the feminists control anything? They're just another part of the culture war designed to turn your attention away from how the rich are constantly fucking you in the ass.
>This is massive social delusion/experiment brought on by technology
And money, don't forget money. Everything these days has a price tag attached to it. Otherwise we'd still be in the web 2.0 days.
>I know everyone thinks the Jews and feminists control everything, but.. I have to maintain hope.
You honestly think the feminists control anything? They're just another part of the culture war designed to turn your attention away from how the rich are constantly fucking you in the ass.
>This is massive social delusion/experiment brought on by technology
And money, don't forget money. Everything these days has a price tag attached to it. Otherwise we'd still be in the web 2.0 days.
>>246003
>Too few womyn?
>… What the hell are you talking about?
Our species follows a Trivers-Willard reproductive pattern. So do most of our closely related simians, and so do a lot of other mammals. Humans aren't outliers or extreme in our Trivers-Willard pattern, but we are very, very solidly within it.
You've probably heard that females are 51% of the human population in total. This is one of the most misleading statistics in the world.
Males are in fact 54% of births. The ratio of male:female is 105:100 until the age of 25, at which point a slow, slow decline begins. Men only reach equal numbers with succubi at the age of 35, and succubi only start to outnumber men in their LATE 30s.
You can find this out by simply attempting to find census data for the nation of your choice so long as that census data includes tables separating sex by single year of age.
There are some websites, youtube videos etc. that try to paper over this by outright lying, e.g. attributing the decline in male population and overall 51%-female statistic to childhood mortality and infant death rates. That's disgusting behavior, while there is a disproportionate impact of infanticide and other common causes of childhood death on males the impact of infant and childhood mortality on the population is fucking miniscule. There is no epidemic of baby deaths in the United States, can you even fucking imagine the gall it takes to pretend that 1 out of every 20 males born will die before they turn 6, doctors and pediatricians would be fitting boys for coffins during their regular checkups as a standard practice. I have no idea why anyone tries to mislead anyone else on this subject, but they do. The fact that this dishonesty exists even in professional circles is why you need a "single year of age" breakdown to actually get the full picture.
Any attempt to address socio-sexual values–even on the level of attempting to address the psychological impact of said values on an individual–without a grounding in basic demographic facts is ultimately doomed, and likely delusional.
>Too few womyn?
>… What the hell are you talking about?
Our species follows a Trivers-Willard reproductive pattern. So do most of our closely related simians, and so do a lot of other mammals. Humans aren't outliers or extreme in our Trivers-Willard pattern, but we are very, very solidly within it.
You've probably heard that females are 51% of the human population in total. This is one of the most misleading statistics in the world.
Males are in fact 54% of births. The ratio of male:female is 105:100 until the age of 25, at which point a slow, slow decline begins. Men only reach equal numbers with succubi at the age of 35, and succubi only start to outnumber men in their LATE 30s.
You can find this out by simply attempting to find census data for the nation of your choice so long as that census data includes tables separating sex by single year of age.
There are some websites, youtube videos etc. that try to paper over this by outright lying, e.g. attributing the decline in male population and overall 51%-female statistic to childhood mortality and infant death rates. That's disgusting behavior, while there is a disproportionate impact of infanticide and other common causes of childhood death on males the impact of infant and childhood mortality on the population is fucking miniscule. There is no epidemic of baby deaths in the United States, can you even fucking imagine the gall it takes to pretend that 1 out of every 20 males born will die before they turn 6, doctors and pediatricians would be fitting boys for coffins during their regular checkups as a standard practice. I have no idea why anyone tries to mislead anyone else on this subject, but they do. The fact that this dishonesty exists even in professional circles is why you need a "single year of age" breakdown to actually get the full picture.
Any attempt to address socio-sexual values–even on the level of attempting to address the psychological impact of said values on an individual–without a grounding in basic demographic facts is ultimately doomed, and likely delusional.
>>246040
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2016/06/americas-age-profile-told-through-population-pyramids.html
I was interested in this question myself and looked up the population pyramid of the US a while ago. Although I thought that this increase of young males was due to immigration. Mexico also has more young males (ages 0-29) than young females. So the immigration hypothesis is right out. Really interesting, maybe this crab drivel about not having enough mates really does reflect reality
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blogs/random-samplings/2016/06/americas-age-profile-told-through-population-pyramids.html
I was interested in this question myself and looked up the population pyramid of the US a while ago. Although I thought that this increase of young males was due to immigration. Mexico also has more young males (ages 0-29) than young females. So the immigration hypothesis is right out. Really interesting, maybe this crab drivel about not having enough mates really does reflect reality
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>>246041
>crab drivel
Trivers-Willard effects are largely tied to macroeconomic fluctuations and parental "love." Most of the discussions on the effect that have happened on wizchan have been on maternal abandonment, paternal abuse and/or fatherlessness, and a couple lamenting the inability of young males who are not physically attractive to manage to remove themselves from unpleasant social conditions because the service industry will not open to ugly males in a state of apparent emotional and social distress, resulting in increasing dependence and entrapment with said parents later in life. I have never seen a discussion of T-W on other sites so I don't know how it is presented there. I have just now attempted to search an /r9k/ archive for Trivers-Willard, and no results whatsoever were found by said archive. Are there actually conversations involving Trivers-Willard effects outside of this site?
>crab drivel
Trivers-Willard effects are largely tied to macroeconomic fluctuations and parental "love." Most of the discussions on the effect that have happened on wizchan have been on maternal abandonment, paternal abuse and/or fatherlessness, and a couple lamenting the inability of young males who are not physically attractive to manage to remove themselves from unpleasant social conditions because the service industry will not open to ugly males in a state of apparent emotional and social distress, resulting in increasing dependence and entrapment with said parents later in life. I have never seen a discussion of T-W on other sites so I don't know how it is presented there. I have just now attempted to search an /r9k/ archive for Trivers-Willard, and no results whatsoever were found by said archive. Are there actually conversations involving Trivers-Willard effects outside of this site?
>>246049
I was unclear in my post. I did not intend to imply your post was "crab drivel" I used the term "crab drivel" to refer to ideas that crabs commonly complain about, that the majority of succubi have sex with a minority of men, and other crab talking points.
It is odd to consider that some of these crab talking points may have a basis in reality.
I was unclear in my post. I did not intend to imply your post was "crab drivel" I used the term "crab drivel" to refer to ideas that crabs commonly complain about, that the majority of succubi have sex with a minority of men, and other crab talking points.
It is odd to consider that some of these crab talking points may have a basis in reality.
>>246040
>males are 54% of births
>ratio is 105:100
well at birth the ratio is 54/46, right? so thats about 1.17, and if we assume that no significant die-off occurs until about 40 years, then that's approximately the gender ratio today.
>males are 54% of births
>ratio is 105:100
well at birth the ratio is 54/46, right? so thats about 1.17, and if we assume that no significant die-off occurs until about 40 years, then that's approximately the gender ratio today.
>>246054
There is a significant male die-off, which spans a number of years between the 20s and the mid-30s. A therapist I saw as a condition for discharge from a ward agreed with me that it is reasonable to suspect that the post-mid-20s dieoff is the primary driver in the reduction of male virgins between the ages of 25 and 35 (this was an entirely organic conversation about parental investment, employment, and livelihood, I never spoke with him about sex or virginity in and of themselves per se), so I don't think it was a matter of my depressive fatalism alone saying that parents tend to abandon their jobless and sexually unsuccessful offspring in adulthood. He isn't an expert in the field of demographics so I wouldn't expect him to be able to say it is correct, but he is an expert in the field of crazy, and of male forms of parental abandonment and social abjection. I don't believe there's any way to confirm or deny that.
There is a significant male die-off, which spans a number of years between the 20s and the mid-30s. A therapist I saw as a condition for discharge from a ward agreed with me that it is reasonable to suspect that the post-mid-20s dieoff is the primary driver in the reduction of male virgins between the ages of 25 and 35 (this was an entirely organic conversation about parental investment, employment, and livelihood, I never spoke with him about sex or virginity in and of themselves per se), so I don't think it was a matter of my depressive fatalism alone saying that parents tend to abandon their jobless and sexually unsuccessful offspring in adulthood. He isn't an expert in the field of demographics so I wouldn't expect him to be able to say it is correct, but he is an expert in the field of crazy, and of male forms of parental abandonment and social abjection. I don't believe there's any way to confirm or deny that.
>>246017
I didn't say anything about sympathy, that's a normie thing. I'm saying that marriage is a risk for all of us.
I didn't say anything about sympathy, that's a normie thing. I'm saying that marriage is a risk for all of us.
>>246040
That's still pretty close to 50/50, and people used to get married at age 21 or younger.
I don't think the problem is that there are "too few succubi", it's that the men and succubi that exist now are just bad. It's that nobody knows how to do anything anymore, anywhere, because there is no more culture. crabdom has many causes, weak men with no "career path", or any meaningful opportunity for socialization at all, videogame addiction to cope, a malignant addiction that makes it worse. Dating culture from the TV. Hypergamy. And ofc nobody values anything at all because it's phony money mass-culture capitalism world. Everything's already been destroyed so let's not be surprised we can't find love or marriage.
Pretty much none of this was our fault, in another time we might have been forced to work outside, forced to socialize, arranged marriage, etc. The machine just doesn't need us to do that, and so we don't.
I checked out some of the psychos on FDS (female dating strategy), and they are right. There's an incredibly pervasive misogyny culture that's semi-normalized. As a weird autistic guy I always found it weird and shocking that my male friends would talk about how succubi are sluts and so-on, but slowly grew into it.
Now that I'm much, much older, I'm seeing how it's possible to be a man, AND have a certain level of respect for succubi where you don't treat them like street trash all the time, but nobody cares about that here - you've got to go drinking and "dating", and copy what's on TV, and so on… Meanwhile the succubi are all competing in hypergamy without even knowing what it is. "I like tall guys"…. OK. What a joke.
This whole society is a joke, and people have retreated into delusion (sometimes quite literally, retreating into videogames and so-on). The world is a funny place, apparently it's possible for 8 billion people to be blind to pretty much everything but their iPhone and their kitchen floor.
That's still pretty close to 50/50, and people used to get married at age 21 or younger.
I don't think the problem is that there are "too few succubi", it's that the men and succubi that exist now are just bad. It's that nobody knows how to do anything anymore, anywhere, because there is no more culture. crabdom has many causes, weak men with no "career path", or any meaningful opportunity for socialization at all, videogame addiction to cope, a malignant addiction that makes it worse. Dating culture from the TV. Hypergamy. And ofc nobody values anything at all because it's phony money mass-culture capitalism world. Everything's already been destroyed so let's not be surprised we can't find love or marriage.
Pretty much none of this was our fault, in another time we might have been forced to work outside, forced to socialize, arranged marriage, etc. The machine just doesn't need us to do that, and so we don't.
I checked out some of the psychos on FDS (female dating strategy), and they are right. There's an incredibly pervasive misogyny culture that's semi-normalized. As a weird autistic guy I always found it weird and shocking that my male friends would talk about how succubi are sluts and so-on, but slowly grew into it.
Now that I'm much, much older, I'm seeing how it's possible to be a man, AND have a certain level of respect for succubi where you don't treat them like street trash all the time, but nobody cares about that here - you've got to go drinking and "dating", and copy what's on TV, and so on… Meanwhile the succubi are all competing in hypergamy without even knowing what it is. "I like tall guys"…. OK. What a joke.
This whole society is a joke, and people have retreated into delusion (sometimes quite literally, retreating into videogames and so-on). The world is a funny place, apparently it's possible for 8 billion people to be blind to pretty much everything but their iPhone and their kitchen floor.
>>246191
All that shit goes out the window if a war takes out loads of men, using them as cannon fodder. Come back home where the sex ratio is 4-5:1 F:M after major conflicts with high loss of life and no amount of "muh modern world of spiritual emptiness" is going to keep those guys from finding mates and reproducing.
It's just a simple fact that 99 men and 1 succubus end up with no future, while the reverse can repopulate without nary a hitch. That's reality
All that shit goes out the window if a war takes out loads of men, using them as cannon fodder. Come back home where the sex ratio is 4-5:1 F:M after major conflicts with high loss of life and no amount of "muh modern world of spiritual emptiness" is going to keep those guys from finding mates and reproducing.
It's just a simple fact that 99 men and 1 succubus end up with no future, while the reverse can repopulate without nary a hitch. That's reality
>>246191
>Everything's already been destroyed so let's not be surprised we can't find love or marriage.
are you implying you would get these things in a less "phony money mass-culture capitalist world"?
>Everything's already been destroyed so let's not be surprised we can't find love or marriage.
are you implying you would get these things in a less "phony money mass-culture capitalist world"?
>>246196
It's hard to tell with your average trad tard who thinks everything would work itself out if we were living in a pre-industrial world and there'd be no misfits an no societal problems whatsoever. Their diagnosis is not necessarily wrong but their solutions almost always are.
It's hard to tell with your average trad tard who thinks everything would work itself out if we were living in a pre-industrial world and there'd be no misfits an no societal problems whatsoever. Their diagnosis is not necessarily wrong but their solutions almost always are.
>>246195
>"phony money mass-culture capitalist world"
Not him, but you don't agree that this world is just that? I mean, I don't know what the solutions are but he's not wrong on that.
Nobody does value anything anymore because the effort has been taken out. This normalfag geek invasion is the perfect example.
You can put on some black-rimmed glasses and call yourself a nerd or geek and no-one will call you out, and if you have enough "clout" you can claim yourself as THE geek without any real personal investment into it.
>"phony money mass-culture capitalist world"
Not him, but you don't agree that this world is just that? I mean, I don't know what the solutions are but he's not wrong on that.
Nobody does value anything anymore because the effort has been taken out. This normalfag geek invasion is the perfect example.
You can put on some black-rimmed glasses and call yourself a nerd or geek and no-one will call you out, and if you have enough "clout" you can claim yourself as THE geek without any real personal investment into it.
>>246198
I agree but it's hardly a groundbreaking observation, and the belief in a world where there were would be no such problems, or they would be instantly fixed somewhat, is an illusion. You know that cliché about the younger generation being worthless popping up pretty much everywhere every time? It reminds me a bit of that.
I agree but it's hardly a groundbreaking observation, and the belief in a world where there were would be no such problems, or they would be instantly fixed somewhat, is an illusion. You know that cliché about the younger generation being worthless popping up pretty much everywhere every time? It reminds me a bit of that.
>>246199
>and the belief in a world where there were would be no such problems, or they would be instantly fixed somewhat, is an illusion
Dude didn't offer any solutions, and any solutions won't be an instant fix sure but the world can't keep heading down this path without consequences.
>You know that cliché about the younger generation being worthless popping up pretty much everywhere every time?
It's much truer this time. You know that the zoomer generation has a much much shorter attention span that even the millennials?
>and the belief in a world where there were would be no such problems, or they would be instantly fixed somewhat, is an illusion
Dude didn't offer any solutions, and any solutions won't be an instant fix sure but the world can't keep heading down this path without consequences.
>You know that cliché about the younger generation being worthless popping up pretty much everywhere every time?
It's much truer this time. You know that the zoomer generation has a much much shorter attention span that even the millennials?
>>246208
>no it’s different this time because it is
Can you prove that they have lower attention spans?
>no it’s different this time because it is
Can you prove that they have lower attention spans?
>>246209
If I'm honest not really, all I have is that the zoomer attention span is 8-seconds according to a bunch of articles that all reference a 2014 marketing study, and Gen Z mass media being much dumber and more spectacular and bite-sized than the last two decades.
>no it’s different this time because it is
You can tell me things are cyclical, that's one thing but to tell me there's been no change between how succeeding generations take in and process information, you'd have to be mad.
If I'm honest not really, all I have is that the zoomer attention span is 8-seconds according to a bunch of articles that all reference a 2014 marketing study, and Gen Z mass media being much dumber and more spectacular and bite-sized than the last two decades.
>no it’s different this time because it is
You can tell me things are cyclical, that's one thing but to tell me there's been no change between how succeeding generations take in and process information, you'd have to be mad.
Aren't places devoided of the parasitic noises of the mundane what we seek?
Don't you get any headaches from listening on your crystal ball all day long to the whispers of the kind that yet you try so much to avoid?
Look through your window, ghost lands, people preferring the company of their homes seemingly becoming more like you, who would have thought. You were ahead of your time truly, but never forget; you're one of them now..
When the noise will become unbearable you'll return to your roots as an outcast, you heard
Anything candy for the ears in comparison, even the outside blizzard
The outside world is the new refuge for those in search of solitude, so when the time comes you'll leave your tower wizard!
Don't you get any headaches from listening on your crystal ball all day long to the whispers of the kind that yet you try so much to avoid?
Look through your window, ghost lands, people preferring the company of their homes seemingly becoming more like you, who would have thought. You were ahead of your time truly, but never forget; you're one of them now..
When the noise will become unbearable you'll return to your roots as an outcast, you heard
Anything candy for the ears in comparison, even the outside blizzard
The outside world is the new refuge for those in search of solitude, so when the time comes you'll leave your tower wizard!
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>>246333
People often wonder where do the wizards go…
They fade away.
You wisen up when you stop engaging.
Get the picture.
Half of the people who visit this place won't see it. That's okay.
People often wonder where do the wizards go…
They fade away.
You wisen up when you stop engaging.
Get the picture.
Half of the people who visit this place won't see it. That's okay.
>>246333
>Aren't places devoided of the parasitic noises of the mundane what we seek?
>ghost lands
If they actually fucked off from physical places that they swarmed like locusts, that might SOMEWhAT of a decent trade-off, but being the normalfags that they are, they'll have their cake and eat it.
There was no trade, just a takeover.
>Aren't places devoided of the parasitic noises of the mundane what we seek?
>ghost lands
If they actually fucked off from physical places that they swarmed like locusts, that might SOMEWhAT of a decent trade-off, but being the normalfags that they are, they'll have their cake and eat it.
There was no trade, just a takeover.
>>246333
I have my game consoles and C64 for this purpose. Every second I spend on an internet-connected device is wasted. I should just sell my Steam library at this point because I hate having to log in to anything resembling a social media platform. No internet is very limiting but people lived without the internet for eons and we have been duped into believing life isn't worth living if you don't spend every spare moment on it.
I have my game consoles and C64 for this purpose. Every second I spend on an internet-connected device is wasted. I should just sell my Steam library at this point because I hate having to log in to anything resembling a social media platform. No internet is very limiting but people lived without the internet for eons and we have been duped into believing life isn't worth living if you don't spend every spare moment on it.
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>>241493
Any wizards, as in 28-30+, feel like they're in purgatory or maybe even hell?
You know what I saw today? Some black motherfucker with sheathed double ninja swords nestled behind his hipster backpack. It wasn't some fat black nerd with thick-lensed glasses. It was some cool, "normal" for the lack of a better word, black guy in his early-mid 20s getting in his friend's BMW and it's like…you spent years toning your nerdy "eccentricities" down to make it palatable for the normies, not even to be friends with them but just to be left alone and not paint a giant target on your back…and now they wear your colours that they used to insult you for.
The last 10-15 years has been like living on a rapidly sinking island into mainstream ocean. It's been strange watching the world head down towards internet-inspired madness, that "hyperreal" stuff that Baudrillard talked about I think (don't quote me on it though), people becoming more and more detached from reality and chasing trends that don't have a real-world basis or logic, just super-high viewcounts. Chasing dark and/or dumb back-of-the-internet shit and bringing it into the daylight, normal human relationships become progressively more fucked up etc. I used to think this was a bad thing. Now hope it gets to the point where we have normal people walking around in fursuits with a buttplug shoved up their ass and furry is recognized as a sexuality and transitioning sex is considered absolutely normal and everyone has an onlyfans account and every facet of human desire and emotion is commodified the same way that onlyfans has commodified peoples' assholes.
That way I can just check out of society and live in a lighthouse or a cave.
Bastards couldn't let me have one small patch to call my own.
Any wizards, as in 28-30+, feel like they're in purgatory or maybe even hell?
You know what I saw today? Some black motherfucker with sheathed double ninja swords nestled behind his hipster backpack. It wasn't some fat black nerd with thick-lensed glasses. It was some cool, "normal" for the lack of a better word, black guy in his early-mid 20s getting in his friend's BMW and it's like…you spent years toning your nerdy "eccentricities" down to make it palatable for the normies, not even to be friends with them but just to be left alone and not paint a giant target on your back…and now they wear your colours that they used to insult you for.
The last 10-15 years has been like living on a rapidly sinking island into mainstream ocean. It's been strange watching the world head down towards internet-inspired madness, that "hyperreal" stuff that Baudrillard talked about I think (don't quote me on it though), people becoming more and more detached from reality and chasing trends that don't have a real-world basis or logic, just super-high viewcounts. Chasing dark and/or dumb back-of-the-internet shit and bringing it into the daylight, normal human relationships become progressively more fucked up etc. I used to think this was a bad thing. Now hope it gets to the point where we have normal people walking around in fursuits with a buttplug shoved up their ass and furry is recognized as a sexuality and transitioning sex is considered absolutely normal and everyone has an onlyfans account and every facet of human desire and emotion is commodified the same way that onlyfans has commodified peoples' assholes.
That way I can just check out of society and live in a lighthouse or a cave.
Bastards couldn't let me have one small patch to call my own.
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normies ruined the internet as well now too, its literally unbrowsable without feeling like you're in some bunker and everyone is out to get you
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>>246362
Normalscum adopting all of my hobbies and interests makes me feel like the world is being reshaped into my image or something. I will start to become concerned if someday I go to McDonald's and there are fumos in the happy meals and there's a Hollywood adaptation of Touhou.
Normalscum adopting all of my hobbies and interests makes me feel like the world is being reshaped into my image or something. I will start to become concerned if someday I go to McDonald's and there are fumos in the happy meals and there's a Hollywood adaptation of Touhou.
>>241493
Universe 25 is underway. There will only ever be more wizards. Our wisdom is too much and being wise means being introverted and weak, cowardly. The Beautiful Ones just watch society fall.
Universe 25 is underway. There will only ever be more wizards. Our wisdom is too much and being wise means being introverted and weak, cowardly. The Beautiful Ones just watch society fall.
To be honest it's kinda funny how all that nerd and geek stuff turned into a whole mainstream culture consisting of succubi suffering from borderline personality disorder whoring for attention and money from failed men while they hook up with narcissistic chads from discord.
It literally turned into the e-version of this whole circus that weve been seeing since high school. Some time ago we were wandering the internet as everything was different and interesting while normies were doing normie things and now we are still here but everyone else is here too and everything else changed as well.
I'm sure there will always be men who won't be able to be a part of society and suffer from it just like wizards but there won't be a clear line between subcultures anymore since theres normies in all of them which will definitely have an impact on future wizards and I think most of them will end up as failed normies because they still grow up to be a small part in all of this.
It literally turned into the e-version of this whole circus that weve been seeing since high school. Some time ago we were wandering the internet as everything was different and interesting while normies were doing normie things and now we are still here but everyone else is here too and everything else changed as well.
I'm sure there will always be men who won't be able to be a part of society and suffer from it just like wizards but there won't be a clear line between subcultures anymore since theres normies in all of them which will definitely have an impact on future wizards and I think most of them will end up as failed normies because they still grow up to be a small part in all of this.
>>246738
>narcissistic chads from discord.
Chads? On discord? Am I this out of touch with pop culture?
>narcissistic chads from discord.
Chads? On discord? Am I this out of touch with pop culture?
>>246218
>You can tell me things are cyclical, that's one thing but to tell me there's been no change between how succeeding generations take in and process information, you'd have to be mad.
The amount of technological change human society has gone through in the past 200 years is astounding. It has certainly had an effect on how the human inhabitants of society consume/process information and communicate with each other. Human communications used to consist of handwritten multiple page letters received through the months and years into multiple emoji text messages received nearly instantly.
>You can tell me things are cyclical, that's one thing but to tell me there's been no change between how succeeding generations take in and process information, you'd have to be mad.
The amount of technological change human society has gone through in the past 200 years is astounding. It has certainly had an effect on how the human inhabitants of society consume/process information and communicate with each other. Human communications used to consist of handwritten multiple page letters received through the months and years into multiple emoji text messages received nearly instantly.
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