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 No.242139

the funniest part about the female is their focus on being kind and empathetic. i have not met a single succubus in my whole life who has had the empathy and goodheartedness of an average guy. im genuinely convinced they feel very little empathy or remorse for whatever reason. its also funny how little we can do in our world without succubi interjecting into whatever youre doing and making everything just a little more difficult. videogames, tv, films, books, art. its all been ruined by or ‘for’ succubi. genuinely besides basic neccesities try to think of a hobby or task or anything you do that hasnt been made harder by succubi. i dont hate succubi for this even its just so amazing how worshipped they are

 No.242154

>>242139 I'm getting closer to my thirties and i got jaded by everything in life and succubus are no exception, i don't even feel this something i used to feel towards them, even on a subconscious level. Life and the state of things globally showed me that they are no better than men, even worse in some ways, so the cultural bullshit about their supposed kind and nurturing nature makes them even more repulsive than they are, too high expectations i guess. Men are not particularly better - don't care for the gender war bullshit - but succubus are rotten inside in their own special way and you're right to say that they don't deserve the worshipping they get, objectively they just don't make the cut.

 No.242155

succubi are by far the most revolting human beings, because everything that they do is not die to some internal malevolence but because of their female coding. A man who goes out and kills people and fucks the corpses is simply fucked in the head. A succubus commits evil not because they are fucked up but because they are simply evil creatures to begin with.

Death to succubi.

 No.242156

maybe I hang out in the wrong(or right?) places, but I've never had succubi ruin anything that I was doing, I usually just forget that genders even exist because I'm on the internet 24/7

 No.242157

>>242156
You should know the rule, there are no succubi on the internet.

 No.242162

>>242139
it's really a blessing that succubi are physically weak, they would cause far more damage than men if they were strong

 No.242163

>>242139
I blame the men who allow this to happen.

 No.242165

>>242162
Being weak is what makes succubi succubi. We’re they strong they’d have no need for the plethora of schemes and devices they employ, and thus there’d be no problems.

 No.242194

I saw succubi do a lot of weird and hypocritical bullshit.

They say they don't wanna be displayed as sexual objects and in the same take of breath they claim that succubi who do porn and prostitute themselves are "smart" and "independent" because they profit of the horny males they claim to hate in their feminists rants.

They talk about "toxic masculinity" and ask men to be more emotional and empathetic nice guys and then they are the ones who disprove their own concept by showing that this type of man is undesirable to them and the grandiose narcissistic chads still get all their sexual attention and validation just like before they came up with this bullshit but yet they act like men are the ones who have control over this.

They say we need to support more female artists while most females just copy what men have been doing and hardly come up with something new. It seems like most succubi are unoriginal and just profit off the fact that they are succubi, that's also the reason why on the internet they'll make sure that everyone knows they are female before they actually show their "skills" so they get more attention. succubi can do the most mediocre and easy stuff and make a profit such as ASMR and onlyfans but then they complain that there's not enough successful female entrepreneurs and artists.

They say bodyshaming is terrible and causes suicides but as soon as they get upset they'll bully men over their penis size and everyone thinks it's funny (imagine someone would bully succubi because of their breasts or their vaginas and the majority would think its funny). There was literally this famous streamer succubus who insulted an underage boy about his dick size because he was rude and to all these succubi this was perfectly fine and funny even though it's terrible and kinda creepy.

I think most succubi are too emotional to actually get shit done or to make meaningful decisions and their hypocritical behavior just shows the same thing. Females who get shit done just do it without complaining, what about all the female lawyers, politicians, doctors, they never complain about anything because they just did what they want and feminists are acting like these successful succubi don't even exist because they disprove their paranoid concepts of oppression.

 No.242196

>>242139
there is a difference between succubi as a whole, and the smaller portion of succubi who represent the third wave feminists. your criticism rings true if directed specifically at third wave feminists, but to assert the bullshit of this group is indicative of the entire sex is inaccurate; this is just projection on your part. these "feminists" are just one organ of the political correctness movement (which includes both men and succubi), claiming to be a civil rights movement when in reality it is vehicle for a new bread of bigotry: sexism towards men, racism towards whites, and bigotry towards various other groupings such as Christians or heterosexuals. if we hope to combat this toxic movement we have to recognize how pervasive it is, and that if we try to place blame on a single group we mitigate our ability to fight it.

 No.242201

succubi live of the psychological imperative that it feels good to fake caring and nurture for other people. It gives a wrong sense of moral superiority in a social setting which in turn they use to shun everyone they want and to socially destroy everyone and everything what they don't like without getting any serious repercussions. They operate on the idea that imposing power over a person is not a matter of direct threat and physical intervention to the point of killing another person, but a matter of moral and social devaluing and ridiculing.

The most defining trait of a succubus is that they are completely unable to recognize the existential reality of the human condition beyond their own sexual identity. They do not have the mind to understand a concept like universal suffering. Existence and suffering and metaphysical concepts for them always is a gender specialized topic. And without doubt they will find reasons to say that their own existence is so much worse than a man's way of being and they deserve pity and more resources and better material positions without doing anything to earn these goods. They lack the ability of abstract thinking beyond the distinction of gender which is their first principle to give value to things however they want to. I don't think they are conscious beings most of the time.

 No.242205

>>242196
Why do you talk about the third wave when the fourth has already begun ? At this point it's not about some intellectual elite theorizing shit, it's very widespread and organic, strongly ingrained in the psyche of the masses, just like classic moralism and patriarchy used to be. Now it seems that we tend to shift to the opposite : very loose concepts of morals (be it general behaviour or normative standards etc) and matriarchy. It's also why hypocrisy like >>242194 runs rampant today, just like patriarchy allowed men to be hypocrites back in the day (like it was common to have mistresses for upper classes men, totally disregarding the succubi they were married with).

 No.242206

>>242201
>And without doubt they will find reasons to say that their own existence is so much worse than a man's way of being and they deserve pity and more resources and better material positions without doing anything to earn these goods.

They discredit and devalue anything a man does by acting like men have it easy in life, yet most succubi are not willing to reach their goals without taking easy street and shortcuts. Most of them are not even able to understand life without easy street since they've been carried their whole life.

>>242205
It's so weird how this is even working. Chads never agree with this either and they pretty much feel the same about it as we do and average normie men usually don't agree as well. The only men who agree with this fourth wave crap are the ones who been on "slut walks" and other rallies but we will never see actual masculine men doing shit like that.

It's scary to think that mentally ill succubi are setting the rules and social norms and the ones who will suffer the most are men like us who always get to be the scapegoats and we are always target of their mentally ill projection.

That said I don't wanna live in a conservative society either since that is also very bad news for 99% of all the men who are on this website because to conservatives we are lazy retards who should be put in working camps, I wish we would just move towards a more neutral center based society.

 No.242210

>>242201
> I don't think they are conscious beings most of the time.

Bingo. Though this applies to most men as well, it applies to the vast majority of succubi.

They behave much more like a hivemind. Outside developed countries, there is actually a very extensive record of them coercing men by "crossing their legs" until the men agree to do something.
Not one or two hundred, but millions and millions of succubi going on these "sex strikes" until men build or do something they want.

https://www.cnn.com/2012/08/29/opinion/ghitis-sex-strikes/index.html

So they reduce themselves to mere objects to be used. As paid rewards.

 No.242212

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>>242139
My observation has been they are more polite and empathetic than men, but that this empathy is often a superficial gloss to manage their relationships or spare each other from judgement. Whoever judges the other first, loses.

 No.242213

>>242212
Loses what? The game?

 No.242214

It's rare to see such a homogeneous thread here. Looks like no succubus invaded so far.

 No.242223

>>242205
>just like patriarchy allowed men to be hypocrites back in the day (like it was common to have mistresses for upper classes men, totally disregarding the succubi they were married with

That doesn't acknowledge that the basis of cheating is different for men and succubi - men are always uncertain about their paternity and are therefore wired more for sexual jealousy, whereas succubi worry about their partner falling out of love with them because that means less resources dedicated towards her and her offspring. Trying to draw a simple symmetry between the two is misguided. Typically succubi are more accepting of their husbands having an extra sexual outlet for this reason - they can't be cucked so long as their bills are being paid, unlike men.

 No.242225

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>>242212
The 'empathy' is usually directed at something in safe distance. Rapes in India, GoFundMe about some child they'll never meet. They wouldn't hand a glass of water to a wizzie dying in the street if it meant inconvenience for them.
They're snakes. I will forever remember it's succubi who give birth to men on this hellhole.

 No.242228

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>>242225
I can’t handle reading stories like that.

 No.242234

>>242228
Why not? It's not like she's the only military wife who's ever cheated.

Probably 99% of them cheat.

 No.242237

>>242234
Because it fills me with murderous intent. It’s not a feeling I enjoy.

 No.242245

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Great, boys, just great. Another succubi are evil thread. Some people just do not tire of posting r9k/pol material.

Why do you insult my mom and my sister without ever meeting them? They are certainly not the monsters you try to portray them as. In fact, many succubi aren't like what you guys say and you know it too. Most people are objectively rabble, whether they are born as male or female. Trash is everywhere. You can't judge a whole sex based on the actions and attitude of some its members.

My opinion of them is that they are truly more empathetic, polite, respectful and caring than males are generally. Plus they hate violence. I don't know what universe you people live in but in mine men aren't angels nor innocent victims, they are sociopathic, cruel and ruthless much more than any succ dreams of being. Wizards don't represent men, we are an extremely small minority. Most men would kill you and torture you gladly if it meant the slightest advantage for him in any form.
The portrayal of succubi as the gentler and kinder sex in literature and culture isn't a baseless meme, compared to males they truly are civilized, though that is not saying much.

These threads implying "males are victims" or that males have anything in common at all or should feel any solidarity toward each other just make me cringe. Most normalfags and their whores deserve each other, let them ruin each others' lives and enjoy their suffering instead of being a 6 y.o mentally who still thinks in "us (boys) vs succubi" terms. Grow up.

 No.242247

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disregard.

 No.242248

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Acquire more mana, DISregard witches

kusothread

 No.242252

>>242214
It didn't really didn't take long for this exact thing to happen

 No.242271

>>242225
lol I've seen this exact thing happen with my sister who was crying over some sick kid on social media and then called some old homeless man gross in town the next day

 No.242294

>>242245
Ur mom and sister can fuck off, I get that u are emotionally attached to them but what's being said in this thread is true.

 No.242298

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 No.242310

>>242245
>Us vs them
Everything is us vs them in this world. You might not think of yourself as one of us but they certainly do.

 No.242311

>>242206
Most if not all of us here will never truly fit in any society so why does any of it matter anyway? Just enjoy the shitshow escalate from the sidelines.

 No.242312

the real enemy is not the other gender but life itself. join the efilism gang

 No.242315

>>242311
It does matter to me since I still notice their hypocritical behavior and as long as I'm not dead I will react to it and have my opinion because I think bullshit like that needs to be exposed. Just because I don't live in the center of society doesn't mean I'm not giving a shit about anything, I'm not that passive and egotistical yet and I'm still able to think about stuff and have an opinion.

I will enjoy the real shit show once all of this hypocritical bullshit backfires right at the succubi ​who propagated it, even chads and regular normies are starting to agree with us on these topics because they are getting fed up with all of this and it's starting to get real interesting and entertaining once succubi won't be able to pull their games on the majority of men anymore. I'm confident that we are moving towards slightly better times because this whole facade of hypocrisy is starting to come down slowly but surely.

 No.242320

>>242213
>Loses what? The game?
The unspoken contract of sisterhood. If you break the contract you become a judgemental bitch.

 No.242323

>>242320
succubi detected

 No.242324

>>242223
What a load of hypocrital crap.
Whatever is a man or a succubus doing it, the action is equally bad. All these justifications is not different at all from the people who say that is okay to treat men like crap because they can "handle it" according to this or that.

 No.242325

>>242139
Have you never been around a group of succubi?
They're constantly gossiping extremely mean stuff about other people, especially other succubi. You can see in their eyes how they enjoy spewing so much poison.
succubi are not empathetic at all, they just pretend they are.

 No.242330

>>242324
I spelled out why civilizations the world over have tolerated men having mistresses more than men have tolerated their wife having another lover. No one cares if you have some moral dedication to upholding symmetrical dynamics where there is only asymmetry.

Mother's baby, father's maybe. Welcome to evolution! Next up: figuring out why "succubi and children first" will never go away. B-b-but it's hypocritical! Y-y-you can't say that individual succubi have more reproductive value than individual men!!! It's hypocritical :(

 No.242331

>>242330
So rich succubi are the most privileged people in the world? They get to have all the wealth and power whilst also being dick (or should I say clit) sucked due to muh ebolution (Like getting first in line whilst going on a rant about how 'oppressed' they are)

 No.242332

>>242324
A paper on this:

https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2018/03/Sexual-and-Emotional-Infidelity-PPS-2018.pdf

>We asked participants to imagine that their partner

became interested in someone else: “What would upset
or distress you more: (A) Imagining your partner forming
a deep emotional attachment to that person. (B) Imagining your partner enjoying passionate sexual intercourse
with that person” (Buss et al., 1992, p. 252). The results
proved to be large in magnitude. Fully 60% of the men
chose the partner’s sexual infidelity as more upsetting,
whereas only 17% of succubi made that choice. Conversely, 83% of succubi indicated that emotional infidelity
was more distressing, compared to 40% of men

>>242331
I would say that the very top of the pyramid are billionaires, who are mostly men. But the next in line are succubi. The majority men have always been cannon fodder, it's no different today.

 No.242333

>>242332
>"I would say that the very top of the pyramid are billionaires, who are mostly men."
Are you forgetting that these billionaires have mothers, daughters, nieces, aunts, etc or do you think billionaires only have male family members? Bill gate's daughter or the bushes female family members have it 100x better than you and I, they're happier, healthier and stronger (than me, maybe not you).
I disagree with the notion that all succubi have it better than men, I personally think they're both the same not one has it better than the other, only wealth makes a difference not sex, race or sexual orientation

 No.242335

>>242271
Yeah, they like to virtue signal and virtue signal alone. The quickest way to shut them up is ask them to do something about it - volunteer in a shelter or something.

 No.242337

Empathy is distinct from remorse.
I'm sure succubi are very empathetic, for whatever little that's worth.
It's far more important that someone be able to experience remorse.
Society and culture downplay the significance of remorse in favor of empathy, and I am of the opinion that there is a purpose behind that downplaying, specifically that pathological borderliners and narcissists are capable of empathy but not remorse and that they tend to drive and strive for control and attachment to identity and so rise to positions of disproportionate social influence.

 No.242342

>>242330
>I spelled out why civilizations the world over have tolerated men
No, it was just a crappy justification of a hypocrital and harmful behaviour coated with a paint of made-up baseless claims. With it's source being the male equivalent of the "female" gurus saying that all men are trash because some biological junk, but instead this was readed from a "male" Internet guru with almost the same biological junk, but instead of male are all bad, it was all females are bad because reasons. Spare us the nonsense, we already know how it goes.

A more real reason for the behaviour described was already said very well by >>242205.
If the reason for everything was some biological junk like the gurus claim to be, then men today would be revolting. But is not happening. Because it was never about that junk, it was about power. And the power has shifted its place.
>B-but muh biological value buaaaaaaah!!!!
Hey, if you have your fetish about being cheated on or being inferior to succubi according to whatever made-up biological reasons you want, that's your thing. I'm saying that quit selling it like some sort of historical truth, because it has no basis on reality.

 No.242354

>>242337
I think you mean to say empathy is different than sympathy.

 No.242366

>>242354
Remorse-deficit is literally the defining quality of Narcissism, the inability to transform shame into guilt since guilt undermines an identity whereas shame only undermines status. Empathy-deficit and sympathy-deficit only sound more important to people who haven't tried looking anywhere past crime-drama psychology or evo-psych blogs.
An unkind interpretation of your post is that you're using a canned, socially approved quip which serves to deflect from the importance of remorse, but a kinder one might be that you don't believe a wizard might ever be in a position to expect a succubus to express or experience remorse, so I'll try to address the second since the first just wouldn't make any sense.
Wizards, as socially detached isolates, would be logical targets for social exclusion and cruelty well into adulthood. Workplace bullying is significantly more common than high school bullying according to most statistical analyses of both rate and severity of the two. For those psychiatrically unable to work, for casual social abuse within various therapeutic systems, church groups, and families are also likely. Few family black sheep are ever fully without contact, including those who have done much worse things than live as unemployable unmarriagable wrecks. There may be some very fortunate wizards who are able to live without unwillful social contact with succubi of all ages, but they are a minority. When some wizards were children they may naturally expect their mothers to have had some signs of remorse when their mothers are confronted, beyond possibility of denial, with the severity of physical abuse their sons are suffering at elementary school when the school nurse calls them to report physical injuries. Especially if they had told their mothers about all of their problems beforehand. But more often the mother puts on a concerned face only in public, and when the car door closes she is all spleen and disappointed, frustrated expectation that you would have not listened to any adult or expected anything of anyone else, and should have "taken care of it yourself" without involving her, like a responsible first grader.

 No.242431

>>242294
>true
God, this amount of delusion! Can't you just admit that people generally suck, regardless of sex? Oh no, you need to have revenge on those evil succs for rejecting you or ignoring you so you need mental gymanstics to prove that you are above them. Sad. Just ignore them. Really.

>>242310
No, everything is you vs them in this world. Only retards think along the lines of "boys good, succs bad" or the reverse. You got stuck in kindergarten eternally.

 No.242474

>>242201
Best post in this thread

 No.242475

>>242245
>more empathetic
Not even remotely true

 No.242476

>>242475
I don't see succubi committing violent crimes or waging wars or even encouraging this kind of behavior, it is always males who feel the need for violence, to outcompete everyone and to conquer everyone around them. If there is fist fight among males it is always succubi who want it to stop first and this is true to pretty much all kind of conflicts. Just because they didn't want to fuck you back in high school they aren't actually sociopaths.

 No.242478

>>242476
You're focusing on the puppets, instead of those pulling the strings.

 No.242480

>>242478
You mean there exists a group of succubi or succubi as a whole collective work on causing more suffering? Oh those poor, good, moral alpha males, I'm sure they would be peaceful souls if not for those wile, wicked and manipulative succubi!

 No.242493

>>242476
>>242480
Obvious femoid posting, try to be less obvious next time roastie

 No.242495

>>242480
Yes, the Trojan war illustrates the vile machinations of succubis perfectly.

 No.242552

>>242495
The Trojan war was fought by men against men, like all wars. It was the fault of Menelaus and Agamemnon fully, they used the whole Helene thing as excuse to rob and conquer.

 No.242563

>>242552
>they used the whole Helene thing as excuse to rob and conquer.
Well, if it fits your narrative, then I guess it must be true.

 No.242565

>>242563
Do you actually think the fact your wife ran off with another guy justifies war against an entire nation? Countless men were killed on both sides for the sake of this macho crap that still continues to plague humanity in this day. Helen and Paris did nothing wrong.

 No.242574

>>242476
https://www.thecut.com/2016/01/european-queens-waged-more-wars-than-kings.html

according to this shitty article queens start more wars than kings, so blow it out your ass retard.

 No.242575

>>242565
People with autistic (hypermale) brains are often far-right and would definitely start a war if another man as much as touched their wife. Even if the wife hated said husband.

 No.242579

>>242552
You know I was just shitposting but Trojan war was started by Hera, Athena and Aphrodite also
>like all wars
You clearly don't know much about history.

 No.242583

I wish the wizard lifestyle had succubi totally removed from it. They are a net negative in every facet of my life, from the random cashiers I will never see again to my own mother to the random slags protesting in the streets, they're just a terrible people in general.

Unfortunately since I am too weak to live as a hermit I have to force myself to function in this civilization even if it requires me sitting in an office room listening to a 29 year old single mother complain about her boyfriend.

 No.242586

The saddest part in life is that some men DO feel empathy only to be kicked, bruised and insulted for it.

 No.242587

>>242583
What is your opinion of witches? (Female wizards)

My sister is one, but I would never refer her to this site as it's a breach of rules.

I don't think she's even had online friends in her life let alone real ones.
I mean, she's ok as a person, I don't really feel anything negative towards her as we grew up together.

 No.242590

>>242587
Witchkids are obnoxious but I guess they're alright.

 No.242600

>>242587
What's having a wizard/witch sibling like? I have a brother but he is a total normalfag. Does your parents ever give you two any grief?

 No.242602

>>242600
Not really, fortunately I was born with chill parents.

She doesn't really go anywhere or do anything except read books and play old consoles. Has never dated, and last had a friend in kindergarten (?)

So if she were born male I'd say that qualifies as wizard tier.

To me it's really just like living with a brother, so I don't see any difference.
She is 28 and I'm 25 if that makes any difference.

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 No.242624

>>242587
Honestly I doubt their existence but if you say you have an example then that's surprising. I wish you could go on her computer or something and see what she spends her private time doing.

Does she care about her appearance at all? What do your parents say about her situation?

 No.242631

>>242587
>What is your opinion of witches? (Female wizards)
I think something very powerful must happen in a female's life to completely disregard her hormones and instincts.
I am afraid of Witches, a Warlock might scar your body, but a Witch might scar your soul.

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>>242602
>my sister is a female wizard
>she is a 28 year old witch
>what do you think of witches?
Kek I think virgin succubi who are in their mid twenties or early 30s are going to lose their virginity, and they're in the search for a man who they can trust enough to have their first time with, so their first sexual experience isn't a bad one.
There's no such thing as a female wizard, you need to be an outcast for that, and succubi can't be that because they have vaginas. If you want to use their bullshit emotional stories, anecdotes, to argue they're as much of an outcasts as ugly virgins or autistic males so they can know about the wizard life and somehow relate to us, then you might as well believe a BLM activist and cry for George Floyd's death.

>>242623
Succubi do worse than that. They throw their new born babies in the gutter and leave them to die.

 No.242636

>>242624
Not really. She doesn't shower often and is quite large, so I sometimes say get a shower. Usually just laughs it off.

Mostly just plays games on the computer, maybe an hour a day. Her Windows user doesn't even have a password. Yes it's unethical but I logged in once.

>>242635
She literally hasn't gone anywhere for years, not even to doctors appointments. She's just here all the time. Has self admitted to never dating anyone or sleeping with anyone.

So in that regard I see no difference to wizardry. It's just a wizard in a different body.

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>>242636
>she is just a wizard in a different body
>she is a male virgin but has a vagina
Are you too low IQ to understand that succubi are different than men? She can't be a man in a succubi's body, so she can't be a wizard in a succubi's body. It's a retarded comparison.
>she's told me she's never dated or slept with anyone
succubi being virgins doesn't mean they can know about the wizard life or what is like to be a wizard. They aren't seen the same as men or treated like men, less feel the same as men, they don't even have the same T levels.
You can call her whatever you want though, she is your sister, just like you can believe in her every word.

 No.242638

>>242636
Please don't respond to the retard who believes to know more of your own family members than you do yourself. Are you seriously going to waste your time on that?

 No.242640

>>242638
t. retard who thinks virgin succubi are just wizards with a vagina

 No.242642

>>242637
Well I'm going to respond anyway despite advice above to the contrary:

I don't see how she doesn't qualify as witch (wizard) seeing as she is just as messed up as I am but goes out even less than I do.
She is a KHV with severe depression and previous suicide attempts.

I even have to get food for the both of us + my mom, since I'm the only one in this household buying any necessities like paper, soap or food.

I understand completely why they're not allowed on wizchan and I'm cool with that. I'm just saying they *do* exist, even if it's just 1% of the population.

 No.242643

>>242642
For a succubus to be anything like a wizard first she will have to be born a man.
Normalfags and succubi can be virgins, have depression, or have attempted suicide, that doesn't make them wizards. You must be a male first, and then a virgin.

 No.242644

>>242640
Witches do exist. They're just not welcome here.

But saying they aren't real is absurd. Consider the amount of world population, over 8 billion. There are probably tens of millions of them.

 No.242645

>>242644
Virgin succubi exist. There's no such thing as a female wizard.

 No.242647

>>242645
Only novices would use that term anyway. The actual term that has been used for 5+ years is witch.
My point still stands, they're not welcome here though discussing them is ok.



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