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 No.244026

Anime is boring
Movies are boring
Vidya is boring
Books are boring
Coding is boring
Nothing entertains me anymore. Even porn doesn't give the same thrill as it used to. I end up just lying on my bed and eyeing the ceiling.

 No.244027

wish I had the balls and access to a gun to kill myself.

 No.244030

Your thread is also boring.

 No.244032

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>>244026
You know whats not boring? Those babies can grow up to be human glassed donuts

 No.244038

>>244032
Please tell me this is fake; I thought that baby was a prop.

 No.244039

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>>244038
Nope, Harls are perfectly real. Nature is cruel

 No.244040

>>244039
Everyone fucks up, even nature.

 No.244108

>>244040
Fornication is a sin.

 No.244113

nofap, i usually regain intrest in vidya after the 3rd day

 No.244114

>>244026
same here. neet life sucks after the first year or two.

 No.244118

>>244113
What kind of games do you play?

 No.244135

Yeah, same
I want to kill myself

 No.244172

>>244026
>books are boring
No your mind just sucks ass. I read constantly and everyday. Imagine thinking reading other peoples minds from the past is boring.

 No.244175

>>244040
nature isn't beautiful it's quite cruel and relentless. There's no such thing as "intelligent design"

 No.244176

>>244026
try stimulants like adderal and ritalin to boost dopamine

 No.244192

>>244176
Yes go and enslave yourself to chemicals, what a wonderful idea.

 No.244194

>>244192
A true wizard knows how to use potions and alchemy. You sound like some Raeganite boomer.

 No.244208

>>244192
you're a slave to chemicals right now hence why he's feeling depressed, you can alter that. but you probably don't believe in jewish poison

 No.244242

normies ruined everything they touch

 No.244244

>>244208
You can learn to control your mind and the chemical hell that flows through it, but there's no such control possible when said chemicals are being pumped in from outside the shell. If you want true balance you need to explore and find it on your own, there are no magical pills or solutions. You are the only one truly capable of understand yourself, hence why solitude is the beginning of all great discoveries.

 No.244252

>>244176
lol how long have you been using those for?

 No.244271

>>244252
I don't use them anymore but i remember that it makes everything interesting, you don't get bored, plus your sex drive increases etc
For example video games to me are boring now, but when i was on ritalin i could play for hours especially rpg games, now i just lack motivation and interest to care at all about anything.

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 No.244407

>>244113
not for me, havent touched my dick for about a week and i dont want to do shit

 No.244408

>>244271
>it makes everything interesting, you don't get bored, plus your sex drive increases etc

wow, wizard, that does sound like a wizardly drug

 No.244481

>>244039
if only

 No.244482

>>244039
If only it was cruel. It's just indifferent.

 No.244491

It is because you fried your dopamine receptors by living in a hedonistic sheltered way.

 No.244496

Take a break from any dopamine addictive thing for about a month and it will be fun again

 No.244507

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Have you considered the possibility that YOU are the one who is boring? Just saying. Finding everything to be boring, not deriving any pleasure from anything at all, these are signs that you are a weak person. Improve yourself and you will enjoy things again.

 No.244520

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I used to hate having to wait, in general, for medical appointments, while traveling, etc. I used to find it so boring, almost torturous, it made me mildly anxious, uncomfortable… but recently, honestly, at least the last time I had to, it was actually kind of therapeutic, dare I say, looking at the wall and peacefully watching minutes, hours go by… I don't know, it just feels… ok, which is perfect for me, considering how I'm feeling most of the time

 No.244559


>>244507
>Finding everything to be boring, not deriving any pleasure from anything at all, these are signs that you are a weak person.
Source?

 No.244565

>>244559
Common sense and observing myself and others. Don't you find it strange if a person can't enjoy anything? I find it pretty damn strange. There is all these things you can do and watch thanks to this modern age and internet, how could anyone be bored? The problem is with op.

 No.244569

>>244565
>how could anyone be bored with all the bread and circuses around?
>he says in the depression board

 No.244576

>>244569
Bread and circus are the cream of life. If you don't enjoy it then you have some issues. The problem isn't with outside things, it is in your head.

 No.244608

>>244576
Your brain capacity is at the level of a typical normie who can't fathom how life could hold anything besides beer, football and Smackdown.

It's ok, without drones like you no society could function at all, but it's so tiresome to interact with your kind.

 No.244611

Relevant

 No.244612

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>>244565
>There is all these things you can do and watch thanks to this modern age and internet, how could anyone be bored?
Because we live in an environment that we aren't evolutionarily adapted to. We live in the mouse utopia. Read Kaczynski.

 No.244618

the problem is that you are only consuming things, not creating any, you also don't seem to exercise or spend time outdoors

 No.244631

>>244618
creating something would give me more suffering than not having created at all

 No.244650

>>244608
Drones? I never worked a single day yet. You don't have to be normalfag to enjoy life.

>>244612
But we adepted to it? For most of the population it is completely natural to use technology.

>>244618
No, you don't need to create anything, exercise or spend a significant amount of time outdoors to enjoy your life. There is nothing wrong with reading or watching the things other people made for entertainment.

 No.244665

>>244650
>But we adepted to it?
If a large portion of the population is miserable and fertility rates are lower than ever, we're not adapted to it.

>For most of the population it is completely natural to use technology.

Because that's all they know. The average normie has no clue how to farm or live off the land.

 No.244666

>>244665
I disagree. People generally are happier nowadays than they were even 100 years ago. Fertility rate has nothing to do with this, it is low because the West embraced free-love culture. I consider low fertility rate a sign of a high culture.

>how to farm or live off the land

Why should they or should we know about this, though? If someone wants to farm or live in nature he can do it, as long as he has enough money. But people don't want to live in nature because honestly, it sucks compared to modern lifestyle.

 No.244672

>>244565
It's called depression you actual shit for brains, you're on the depression board in case you are too retarded to figure that out.
Nofap shilling, dudebro science about dopamine receptors being fried and this moron. Absolute state of this shithole.

 No.244674

>>244666
Being conscious of the horrors of life and having a longer span sounds worse to me.

>>244672
Frying your brain can make you depressed.

 No.244675

>>244674
I find it more likely that depression fries a brain.

 No.244676

>>244666
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/30/e2102061118.full

>Can entire societies become more or less depressed over time? Here, we look for the historical traces of cognitive distortions, thinking patterns that are strongly associated with internalizing disorders such as depression and anxiety, in millions of books published over the course of the last two centuries in English, Spanish, and German. We find a pronounced “hockey stick” pattern: Over the past two decades the textual analogs of cognitive distortions surged well above historical levels, including those of World War I and II, after declining or stabilizing for most of the 20th century. Our results point to the possibility that recent socioeconomic changes, new technology, and social media are associated with a surge of cognitive distortions.

 No.244677

>>244675
It does but it's usually a symptom. I don't blame anyone for being depressed, the world is fucking shit. Each his own, the human mind is complex.

 No.244687

>>244672
Depression isn't an illness, it is a choice. It is about how you view and perceive things.

>>244674
You can never escape the horrors of life, no matter what age you live in. Modern life is way more comfortable and contains way less suffering than any other periods. Do you really hate the fact that you didn't die from some extremely painful disease at 12 because of shitty living conditions??

>>244676
Depression wasn't even a mainstream thing, it was usually just considered that the person is low-energy or more lethargic than others in the past and that is it. These studies don't prove anything. And let me be extremely skeptic about the part where it says during fucking world wars people were happier than nowadays. What a crappy lie.

 No.244688

>>244687
What the fuck are you even doing on /dep/? Just here to proselytize?

 No.244689

>>244688
Laughing at people who are weaker than me and sometimes offering help when I see someone really wants to turn their life around and not just complain endlessly.

 No.244691

>>244689
Wizchan 2021

 No.244692

>>244687
>You can never escape the horrors of life, no matter what age you live in

This is why I'm not committing suicide. If I'm ever reborn anywhere in the universe, it's still going to be suffering most likely.

Chances are it doesn't get much better anywhere in the universe than on Earth in the 21st century.
So many dangers have been eradicated from this hostile world (at least in the west) life couldn't possibly be better.

And I say that as someone whose life is pretty shitty. But it would be 1000x shittier if I was born in an era like the 1500s.

I mean, I'm not likely to die to random diseases. I get paid neetbucks literally for existing. I can get food by walking 50 meters to the store.

I can press a button on my mouse and get goods to my doorstep within a few days.
How exactly is it going to be better in any other era? This is probably some kind of an anomaly, a bubble that will eventually burst. I'm glad that I had to live my miserable life in this era on this planet.

 No.244693

>>244692
You see things correctly. There are lots of wizards and failed normals who romanticize and idealize past ages and think their lives would have been better if they existed in the past and not now…They are utterly deluded, needless to say.
I am an optimist concerning progress, actually. I think humanity can achieve wonderful things if it keeps going on this scientific and materialistic path. Imagine 100 years from now, how comfily the average person will live? Maybe even work will be eradicated completely and everyone will get UBI. Not to mention the huge amounts of escapism and entertainment they will able to enjoy. I'm not afraid of technology taking over our lives at all.

 No.244694

>>244693
>more distractions-good
you obviously don't get the point, probably never will

 No.244695

>>244693
Even if you were a noble or a king in the middle ages, life had a tendency to suddenly take horrible turns for absolutely random reasons, like mongols suddenly deciding to raid your realm or the neighboring monarch deciding to invade you. Or your nobles plotted to kill your family.

I'd say no era has been easier than the current era in first world nations.

As for the world in 100 years, I don't know if I'm that optimistic.
The human population is currently expanding by a billion people every 12 years.

The planet can barely sustain a first world lifestyle even for people living in the current first world.
There will definitely be chaos and violence, just as there is currently in Africa, Brazil etc. due to too many people trying to get a slice of the pie.

 No.244696

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OP you have a chemical imbalance.

Life is all what you make it and what that means is your brain controls your entire perception of reality (duh).

Some people get reward chemicals when they do their laundry, others get dopamine from jumping into a full septic tank while being filmed.


Either way, you need to research brain function and possibly get on an A-typical dopamine reuptake inhibitor.
Alternatively smoking a little weed or using magic shroomies/MDMA in a controlled setting can restart your brains neural pathways.

 No.244698

>>244696
How come the literature examines chemical imbalances, but never examines the cause of the imbalance?

 No.244700

>>244696
Chemical imbalance is a meme. Neurochemistry is not the proper level at which you should look at high-level things like cognition, emotions and behavior. They are much more the product of one's environment and previous learning, rather than simply arbitrary chemical changes in the brain.

Whether an activity is rewarding or not, depends entirely on one's subjective view of the world, what the person has learned to be meaningful and worthwhile. Is it any surprise that one is completely bored after shutting oneself from the world, cutting off any source of meaningful progress, social validation or belonging? It's too easy to think in terms of a brain in a vat, a simple machine of input and output, rather than a complex interaction of an agent, his environment and previous learning.

Truly, how can one be completely miserable with all this entertainment on demand? Could it be that you are a human that wants more out of life than the same few soap operas, anime and games? Maybe OP's life is devoid of any meaning and boredom is the natural reaction to it, rather than a pathology to be "cured" with pills?

 No.244703

>>244507
maybe I am weak and boring. what makes you think I have the potential to improve?

 No.244739

>>244694
You are the one who lives in denial if you believe there is anything worthy of attention in real life. 99% of life is shit. The remaining 1% is the pleasure you get from your pets or maybe family members. Aside from that, living a passive life and retreating into yourself are the means of escape.

>>244695
I'm hoping humanity will finally realize that it just sucks to reproduce and normalfags will be content with sex and all that instead of starting families. Maybe with virtual reality being a thing, even normals will be satisfied with imaginary happiness instead of suffering in the real world.

>>244703
Everyone has the potential to improve. Your mind is capable of great things, just observe the yogis in the East and what they are capable of. It is all a matter of willpower. I used to be depressed too and weak but managed to get myself together. Stoicism is true, it is all a matter of how you view things. That is the only thing that counts. You can let your negative emotions rule you or you can take control and achieve peace. Everything is in your hands, only you can help yourself.

>>244700
You don't need social validation or feeling of belonging. You only need yourself mainly. If op decides he wants to enjoy anime and games again then he will enjoy them again. Simple like that.

 No.244746

>>244674
Explain what frying your brain means without using dudebro science terms.
>>244618
No, the problem is depression which makes everything including building shit mundane and not exciting. You would know if you actually had it even for a short period of time.
Glad you're on the depression board and thread giving shit useless """advice"""
>>244687
>Depression isn't an illness, it is a choice
Look at the absolute state of this place. This fag admits later he's just a normgroid with a happy life who came here poke sad people.
Epic and of course to give his shitty advice to feel better about himself.

 No.244747

> If op decides he wants to enjoy anime and games again then he will enjoy them again. Simple like that.
We found a cure for depression guys.
Everybody go home.

 No.244748

>>244687
>Depression isn't an illness, it is a choice. It is about how you view and perceive things.
How is the way you view and perceive things a choice?

 No.244783

>>244746
>>244747
Are you mad someone dared to point out that most people here are just actually masochists who secretly love torturing themselves? Complaining, constant negativity, refusal to improve in any way, expecting the world to conform to your irrealistic desires and then going full sperg-rage when it doesn't happen, should I go on? You could be so much happier, you could have so much fun, if only you took your heads out of your assholes for once. I say this as someone who had depression.

>>244748
It is your choice what you read, where and on what sites you spend your time, what you watch, what you consume, what kind of people you talk with in your free time, etc. Don't be surprised if you don't enjoy life when you spend all your time here, reading what other people whine about and whining yourself.

 No.244801

>>244783
>just choose not to have depression bro!
so you just doubled down on your idiocy, nice
you're just taking the piss I hope other people realize and stop entertaining you, you're clearly fishing for attention which is really pathetic normalfag behavior. but we already knew you're a normalfag since you've never had depression in your life and that's an easy tell

 No.244835

>>244801
Your defeatist mentality won't bring you any good. I had depression, whether you believe it or not. I managed to reprogram my brain so that I can enjoy life again. You can do it too. You should try it.

 No.244848

>>244783
>refusal to improve in any way
Improooove on what? get a better paying job so I can afford more worthless things?
>you could have so much fun
I've had fun and enjoyed things but there's a thing called burn out aka your brain noticing the same patterns and rejecting them.
>defeatist mentality
What defeatist mentality, what are you talking about?

 No.244853

>>244848
Improve on mastering your desires, emotions, improve on achieving peace and happiness, improve on enjoying life and things again.
>burn out
This is just an excuse. The problem is with how you view things and what your perspective is. You could learn to have fun with your hobbies once again.
>defeatist mentality
That is so apparent around here, this "nothing matters, I am doomed, life will always suck for me, why even try doing anything that would have positive effects on my life and on those around me…". This overly emotinal, desperate, lethargic, anxious state never helped anyone.

 No.244855

>>244835
How did you do it? I can't take it anymore bro. I don't really have any goals or dreams. It's just working to live, self-preservation and nothing more.

 No.244896

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>>244783
This is correct.
>>244855
It's about changing frequencies.
The best way to change frequency I've found is to be so deep in despair until the pit is your rib-cage - then, with enough contortion, you just snap into the nothingness and let the rays of light come in once more.
Instead of a leap you could call it a slip, slipping into… well, whatever you want to call it.
If you are depressed, become more depressed - be so deep in your wallowing and despair. Clench your teeth and tear at your arms while pacing.
Try to vomit and force tears, scream in agony.
After it gets old, you'll find yourself thinking about fish nets with your canoe and soon sing along to the tunes of local folk.
And then you can edit that mausoleum embed into you, namely what you contemplate, until the newly-nursed flora speaks a, "yeah, this is a Hawaiian shirt sort of day" and you nod in affirmation.

 No.244897

>>244896
Oh, and I forgot, the true secret:
Gratitude, gratitude, gratitude.
Gratitude is the gateway to heaven, I think

 No.244905

>>244855
Like he >>244896 said, after you go down the rabbit hole deep enough you will naturally have enough of negativity. I know I had felt negative emotions and thought negative thoughts in my teens and early 20s that are enough for a whole life. When my depression was its worst I cut my arm, banged my head into walls, took sleeping pills so I could sleep through life, was mean to everyone around me and eventually tried to ascend to another realm via suicide. But then, I was like suddenly one day, what the hell am I doing? What will I achieve by acting like a retard? So I started forcing myself to enjoy my old hobbies again. Instead of aimlessly reading posts and posting on chans and listening to music I started reading again, watching movies, anime, in short I re-discovered what previously gave me pleasure. I tried out new things too, watching or reading things that I before dismissed at shit without giving them even a try. I assumed a "now for something completely different" attitude, instead of the pessimistic mindset I tried out the sunny, if not optimistic at least realistic, easy-going attitude. Nothing is beneath me now, I can see the fun even in mindless cartoons for children. I felt like I finally found my real self, the person I used to be as a child, kind, gentle, happy-go-lucky. However, I still had problems swallowing the hardest pill, that is the no-negativity pill completely. I only managed to get to this level recently, I finally forgave others who bullied me in the past and those who hurt me. Hatred, sorrow, envy, I can safely say that I managed to conquer them. I still have problem with lust but I'm working on it.

Come on wiz, join us here. The world is much more tolerable from here. The key thing to understand is that you are a machine and nothing is impossible for you in terms of interior things. What you feel, what you think is up to you ultimately. Be conscious of yourself and your actions. It takes discipline and hard work but it is worth it.

 No.244907

I remember I worked on a project for a long time and when I succeeded I felt absolutely nothing. No joy. No happiness. It was as if I did nothing at all.

So I went back to doing nothing at all. Same result, less work

 No.244912

>>244905
>>244896
What made you guys so happy all of a sudden? Do you work or lead the based neet life?

 No.244926

>>244912
I am a NEET for years now. Like I said, it wasn't really a sudden thing. First, crippling depression and then came the desire to change, but I wasn't happy all of a sudden. It took me weeks until I restarted my brain.

You have to understand, happiness is a choice. You can choose to be angry at normalfags because they don't live like you or you can ignore them because they aren't worth the energy you spend on hating them. You can worry yourself sick about the future or you can sit back and enjoy the now. You can complain about why your life sucks so much or you can be grateful that you have it much better than lots of people on earth. Your mind is a powerful tool. Eastern sages can starve themselves to death, bury themselves alive or sleep on sharp spikes, all because they realized how they could control their minds and therefore their bodies.

 No.244933

>>244926
Judging by your posts I can say your mind is not a powerful tool.

 No.244936

>>244933
We're on wizchan, we all have our own issues. I still use nootropics to function and psychedelics to temporally escape the monotony of life.

 No.244941

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>>244912
White collar job which can cause agony for the unseasoned.
Stuck in a box for the bulk of it.
Often I do dream of NEET life, and love anyone who is NEET, for they are the ones who inherit it all.


And don't kid yourself, of course I still have bad days. I just make sure to have more days of joy than grief, out of spite - what use is the melancholy? There is none.
Remember your death, and that all of your anguish worked toward nothing.
So I am grateful for the few days left - frankly, I assume my life is already on a lease, and eviction will happen at any moment.
So one more good day is enough, has been enough for awhile now.

And I don't pretend that I know death either. Although one can only smile in its presence… of course it's scary too.

 No.244965

Anhedonia has no cure. Normalfags don't understand the sickness so they mistake it for something else and sound like morons.



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