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I had always felt like an other online but it wasn't until 2017+ and especially the past two years I feel old online.
It seems as if my fellow netizens all vanished and everyone is a teenager or talks like one. I do not socialize but when viewing comments on youtube or on other websites including sadly here I will notice strange use of language that is similar to baby babbling and doesn ot express more than a single idea.
>finna mad cap
For example is repeatedly posted on the interweb and I do not understand what any of it means.
I am unsure if age is entirely a factor and it could be the isolation that causes this feeling of being out of touch because I have stumbled across older people talking on reddit getting along fine.
People do not seem to want to have discussions anymore online and instead post a meme or use a few words to express themselves.
I cannot be the only one who is experiencing this phenomenon.
I think social media is the cause because a lot of us have been terminally online for decade(s).
It seems as if my fellow netizens all vanished and everyone is a teenager or talks like one. I do not socialize but when viewing comments on youtube or on other websites including sadly here I will notice strange use of language that is similar to baby babbling and doesn ot express more than a single idea.
>finna mad cap
For example is repeatedly posted on the interweb and I do not understand what any of it means.
I am unsure if age is entirely a factor and it could be the isolation that causes this feeling of being out of touch because I have stumbled across older people talking on reddit getting along fine.
People do not seem to want to have discussions anymore online and instead post a meme or use a few words to express themselves.
I cannot be the only one who is experiencing this phenomenon.
I think social media is the cause because a lot of us have been terminally online for decade(s).
It never changed, you just got older and realized it was retarded, like looking at the toys you played with when you were 5, just because you dont have fun playing in a muddy sandbox as a 30 year old doesnt mean anything
>>250138
>finna mad cap
I only ever saw boomers use to shit on zoomers. I don't think it means anything.
>People do not seem to want to have discussions anymore online
Too many people uses the internet, and thanks to the algorithms everyone gets a constant stream of entertainment, giving a proper reply means getting out of this non-stop entertainment.
They also like to feel upset, and use the internet to upset themselves. This doesn't mean there are no more discussion on the internet, you just have to find those smaller forums, subreddits or generals on 4kidz.
>I cannot be the only one who is experiencing this phenomenon.
Lot of people complain about it, but it's just a meaningless whimper to the void.
>I think social media is the cause
And the algorithm, irony poisoning (liking something is "cringe") etc.
>finna mad cap
I only ever saw boomers use to shit on zoomers. I don't think it means anything.
>People do not seem to want to have discussions anymore online
Too many people uses the internet, and thanks to the algorithms everyone gets a constant stream of entertainment, giving a proper reply means getting out of this non-stop entertainment.
They also like to feel upset, and use the internet to upset themselves. This doesn't mean there are no more discussion on the internet, you just have to find those smaller forums, subreddits or generals on 4kidz.
>I cannot be the only one who is experiencing this phenomenon.
Lot of people complain about it, but it's just a meaningless whimper to the void.
>I think social media is the cause
And the algorithm, irony poisoning (liking something is "cringe") etc.
https://onezero.medium.com/the-dark-forest-theory-of-the-internet-7dc3e68a7cb1
The internet was flooded by low IQ mainstream people, younger people, bots, malicious activity, and systematic abuse of data. I don't consider it safe to write much in public, including here where the admin is maliciously anti-privacy. You would be wise to protect yourself too. People have retreated into private channels. Many older people also grew into something closer to a normalfag. You are more of a minority now, in a more hostile online world with different demographics
The internet was flooded by low IQ mainstream people, younger people, bots, malicious activity, and systematic abuse of data. I don't consider it safe to write much in public, including here where the admin is maliciously anti-privacy. You would be wise to protect yourself too. People have retreated into private channels. Many older people also grew into something closer to a normalfag. You are more of a minority now, in a more hostile online world with different demographics
>>250138
I remember thinking back in the early 00s how most people on the internet seemed so much smarter and better educated than me, I always felt like a dumbass online. Now the situation has reversed and I feel more intelligent than 90% of users and it's not because my IQ suddenly increased. The internet has been flooded with idiots.
I remember thinking back in the early 00s how most people on the internet seemed so much smarter and better educated than me, I always felt like a dumbass online. Now the situation has reversed and I feel more intelligent than 90% of users and it's not because my IQ suddenly increased. The internet has been flooded with idiots.
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>>250138
I genuinely ruminate on this topic multiple times a day. Everyone just disappeared. Slowly since 2010 or so, rapidly since 2017/2018. I believe we are all sitting in little instances. Everyone is still on the internet but each 'group' only sees the product of itself. Meanwhile the general, coordinated propagandised content (be it AI or approved individuals) is what makes the body of content for each group to see. This way the content produced as a mass product of the sum of all undesirable groups is slimmed down by x percentage, relative to the number of groups.
It would be near impossible to curate this by human hand, but with AI and modern computation power, this is actually a relatively easy feat… as long as all of your ISPs, DNS stuff and mass tracking has systematic checks to make sure there are no breakouts from these groups, nobody will be the wiser. This may explain why suddenly I notice spikes in content creation in certain internet places of note that shan't be mentioned.
Took me a while to come to this theory and it does sound dystopian to the point of doubting-it-for-the-sake-of-sanity. Then you start looking properly into what the intelligence community has been up to in all these endless leaks, the collusion between the social media platforms, the hosting services and apis on every fucking site ever - AmazonAWS, googleapis, facebook, twitter, youtube, cloudflare and all those cdns. Unique identifiers often in use. See pic related.
It sure would explain a lot.
I genuinely ruminate on this topic multiple times a day. Everyone just disappeared. Slowly since 2010 or so, rapidly since 2017/2018. I believe we are all sitting in little instances. Everyone is still on the internet but each 'group' only sees the product of itself. Meanwhile the general, coordinated propagandised content (be it AI or approved individuals) is what makes the body of content for each group to see. This way the content produced as a mass product of the sum of all undesirable groups is slimmed down by x percentage, relative to the number of groups.
It would be near impossible to curate this by human hand, but with AI and modern computation power, this is actually a relatively easy feat… as long as all of your ISPs, DNS stuff and mass tracking has systematic checks to make sure there are no breakouts from these groups, nobody will be the wiser. This may explain why suddenly I notice spikes in content creation in certain internet places of note that shan't be mentioned.
Took me a while to come to this theory and it does sound dystopian to the point of doubting-it-for-the-sake-of-sanity. Then you start looking properly into what the intelligence community has been up to in all these endless leaks, the collusion between the social media platforms, the hosting services and apis on every fucking site ever - AmazonAWS, googleapis, facebook, twitter, youtube, cloudflare and all those cdns. Unique identifiers often in use. See pic related.
It sure would explain a lot.
>>250178
Also, these groups may be gigantic, and furthermore dynamically managed sizes depending on activity between inactive nodes, and vice versa. As one 'social network' dies out because of whatever reason, those nodes get shifted into another group. If there are no conflicts (i.e. related nodes accessing the same IPs) then they remain in their separate groups. Checks like this could dynamically change group sizes or amalgamate groups with considerable frequency for the sake of keeping up the masquerade.
Also, these groups may be gigantic, and furthermore dynamically managed sizes depending on activity between inactive nodes, and vice versa. As one 'social network' dies out because of whatever reason, those nodes get shifted into another group. If there are no conflicts (i.e. related nodes accessing the same IPs) then they remain in their separate groups. Checks like this could dynamically change group sizes or amalgamate groups with considerable frequency for the sake of keeping up the masquerade.
>>250138
You should post this thought into this >>247498 thread. The second (or maybe the first) thread touched upon this strange feeling of everyone from the old days being gone and just being populated by idiot Gen Z users.
You should post this thought into this >>247498 thread. The second (or maybe the first) thread touched upon this strange feeling of everyone from the old days being gone and just being populated by idiot Gen Z users.
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>>250178
>>250179
I do not even know what to think.
Is it crazier to accept that out of everyone online there are only really a drop in the bucket that cannot tolerate these platforms and their culture and seek something different?
Just how rare is it to not be a non normalfag that cannot tolerate their bullshit? it cannot be that rare.
Or is what you have poposed more probable? who the fuck knows but Wiz types which used to exist far and wide have vanished. Was there some massive group suicide we are unaware of?
Fuck aliens I am wondering where the humans are.
Unless media in its various forms has managed to alter the way everyone expresses themselves and how within a handful of years I can't accept how this happened.
>>250189
Maybe a mod could merge it otherwise I do not feel like double posting.
>>250179
I do not even know what to think.
Is it crazier to accept that out of everyone online there are only really a drop in the bucket that cannot tolerate these platforms and their culture and seek something different?
Just how rare is it to not be a non normalfag that cannot tolerate their bullshit? it cannot be that rare.
Or is what you have poposed more probable? who the fuck knows but Wiz types which used to exist far and wide have vanished. Was there some massive group suicide we are unaware of?
Fuck aliens I am wondering where the humans are.
Unless media in its various forms has managed to alter the way everyone expresses themselves and how within a handful of years I can't accept how this happened.
>>250189
Maybe a mod could merge it otherwise I do not feel like double posting.
maybe I'm just autistically anal-retentive. But I think online discussion was perfected in the late 1990s traditional forum format. With everything organized by topic and category and archived forever. Hierarchical chain of command.
I can't believe that organization was replaced by these horrible anarchic and fleeting methods of communicating
I can't believe that organization was replaced by these horrible anarchic and fleeting methods of communicating
>>250199
Forums used to be great but it was never about the platform and style of cimmunication it was always about the users. i remember the old drug forums and how high quality the threads would be on topics as everyone either lurked or contributed and worked to solve or speculate about something.
old internet you could go to any website and it would have a chat room that was nearly always active. People just shitpostedi n the chat rooms on the website instead of in the thread. Go take a look at how bad the quality of forums have now and hardly any normies will use forums besides lurking.
Forums used to be great but it was never about the platform and style of cimmunication it was always about the users. i remember the old drug forums and how high quality the threads would be on topics as everyone either lurked or contributed and worked to solve or speculate about something.
old internet you could go to any website and it would have a chat room that was nearly always active. People just shitpostedi n the chat rooms on the website instead of in the thread. Go take a look at how bad the quality of forums have now and hardly any normies will use forums besides lurking.
>>250138
This reminds me of that grandpa simpson quote, "I used to be 'with it', but then they changed 'it', it happened to me and it will happen to you!"
I feel old and out of touch in real life, never mind online. My country is so drastically different from what it used to be during my childhood in the 1990s, online has also radically changed in much the same way. Social media, tinder, corporate iron grip, political correctness run amok, at times it is downright depressing.
This reminds me of that grandpa simpson quote, "I used to be 'with it', but then they changed 'it', it happened to me and it will happen to you!"
I feel old and out of touch in real life, never mind online. My country is so drastically different from what it used to be during my childhood in the 1990s, online has also radically changed in much the same way. Social media, tinder, corporate iron grip, political correctness run amok, at times it is downright depressing.
>>250190
>…but Wiz types which used to exist far and wide have vanished. Was there some massive group suicide we are unaware of?
If you include crabs, I think there probably was mass suicide spread over a period of time, I'm GUESSING of mainly early-mid millennials.
>…but Wiz types which used to exist far and wide have vanished. Was there some massive group suicide we are unaware of?
If you include crabs, I think there probably was mass suicide spread over a period of time, I'm GUESSING of mainly early-mid millennials.
>>250229
I don't think there was any mass suicide. Or that their circumstances improved drastically. The chans just lost their appeal and draw for these types, especially as a place to post.
Apart from this place do you feel like any of the chans are a place where you belong or fit in anymore? Neither do any of the other wizes / wiz apprentices / NEETs/ outcasts /autists. The chans changed from the inside out, the glue that holds the user base together, that "culture" isn't there anymore. From the outside, from your individual perspective it looks like its just you noticing the rest of the userbase change and get replaced drastically and inexplicably, and wondering where the old crowd mysteriously vanished to.
I do really doubt the rest are still around just lurking and not posting though, I think the majority have moved on altogether but they moved on to other shit like discord or gaming or possibly even shit like twitter. It doesn't seem likely they would have quit the internet altogether but it just goes to show, they were hanging around the chans because they felt like they were among friends, they didn't just have an addiction or draw to the boards themselves that was going to persist after the userbase turned into an alternative breed of turbonormies and boomers talking about their kids and their wives and their girlfriends and getting laid all the time and being even more judgemental and harsh toward wizard types and NEETS then even most normies are
I don't think there was any mass suicide. Or that their circumstances improved drastically. The chans just lost their appeal and draw for these types, especially as a place to post.
Apart from this place do you feel like any of the chans are a place where you belong or fit in anymore? Neither do any of the other wizes / wiz apprentices / NEETs/ outcasts /autists. The chans changed from the inside out, the glue that holds the user base together, that "culture" isn't there anymore. From the outside, from your individual perspective it looks like its just you noticing the rest of the userbase change and get replaced drastically and inexplicably, and wondering where the old crowd mysteriously vanished to.
I do really doubt the rest are still around just lurking and not posting though, I think the majority have moved on altogether but they moved on to other shit like discord or gaming or possibly even shit like twitter. It doesn't seem likely they would have quit the internet altogether but it just goes to show, they were hanging around the chans because they felt like they were among friends, they didn't just have an addiction or draw to the boards themselves that was going to persist after the userbase turned into an alternative breed of turbonormies and boomers talking about their kids and their wives and their girlfriends and getting laid all the time and being even more judgemental and harsh toward wizard types and NEETS then even most normies are
4chan naturally became more exposed to the general public over time, which is pretty much inevitable with the rise of social media.
And there was the 2015 - 16 election cycle which caused a major boost in influx of new users. Thats what brought all the boomers and a lot more gen xers, and just the natural passage of time brought in the new generation of zoomers. Zoomers are not like millenials in a lot of ways that differentiate them from the millenial r9k / wiz/ wiz apprentice / NEET types, in a lot of ways their predicament is generational. Boomers, gen x and millenials all made a huge deal out of sex, dating and youth that created a lot of stigma, stress and alienation for virgins and crabs. Most generations in history just didn't care about sex nearly as much and zoomers are returning to that norm.
The mystique of sex pre-internet pornography-tube era just isn't there anymore. Millenials grew up before the current internet porn era, being influenced by the gen x young adult and late teen culture of the time. Zoomers did not. The boomer / sexual revolution romanticism and hype of sexuality has died off now.Its way more common and normal for zoomers to be celibate or virgin in early adulthood then it was for millenials and especially gen xers.
The stigma among youth of being a "nerd" and spending nearly all your time indoors and online or behind screens in general must be gone by now surely, since thats what all kids and young people are like now.
Its much the same with things like partying, experimenting with drugs and alcohol. The obsession with "getting laid" was always cringe, recent generations just lacked the self awareness to see that.
And there was the 2015 - 16 election cycle which caused a major boost in influx of new users. Thats what brought all the boomers and a lot more gen xers, and just the natural passage of time brought in the new generation of zoomers. Zoomers are not like millenials in a lot of ways that differentiate them from the millenial r9k / wiz/ wiz apprentice / NEET types, in a lot of ways their predicament is generational. Boomers, gen x and millenials all made a huge deal out of sex, dating and youth that created a lot of stigma, stress and alienation for virgins and crabs. Most generations in history just didn't care about sex nearly as much and zoomers are returning to that norm.
The mystique of sex pre-internet pornography-tube era just isn't there anymore. Millenials grew up before the current internet porn era, being influenced by the gen x young adult and late teen culture of the time. Zoomers did not. The boomer / sexual revolution romanticism and hype of sexuality has died off now.Its way more common and normal for zoomers to be celibate or virgin in early adulthood then it was for millenials and especially gen xers.
The stigma among youth of being a "nerd" and spending nearly all your time indoors and online or behind screens in general must be gone by now surely, since thats what all kids and young people are like now.
Its much the same with things like partying, experimenting with drugs and alcohol. The obsession with "getting laid" was always cringe, recent generations just lacked the self awareness to see that.
Too many people unable to live without tiny doses of attention many times a day, and too many people are willing to satisfy their desire. Inane threads, catchphrases, endless stream of pornohraphy, insults and vulgar jokes. Other types of poster are left outside in most cases.
>>250321
>Apart from this place do you feel like any of the chans are a place where you belong or fit in anymore?
The only appeal other chans have for me in general is the ability to speak freely and I do not even use them anymore.
I post on here because there are some others who are similar and unchained from the mainstream and alternative culture (chanfags).
>>250333
zoomers are having a lt more sex
>Apart from this place do you feel like any of the chans are a place where you belong or fit in anymore?
The only appeal other chans have for me in general is the ability to speak freely and I do not even use them anymore.
I post on here because there are some others who are similar and unchained from the mainstream and alternative culture (chanfags).
>>250333
zoomers are having a lt more sex
I think Internet culture now is destructive to human beings. I’ve been in it 20+ years and any hope of it improving humanity is dead I think, the social nature of humanity has been amplified on the negative fashion.
As an outcast it feels so odd to now say I’d rather interact with people irl who don’t use the internet, but it’s the view I hold.
As an outcast it feels so odd to now say I’d rather interact with people irl who don’t use the internet, but it’s the view I hold.
>>250343
Statistics I saw on this very site. Where did you pull the bullshit that they are having more sex from?
Statistics I saw on this very site. Where did you pull the bullshit that they are having more sex from?
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>>250345
We had a thread somewhere a while back with this as the OP image.
https://boingboing.net/2021/03/22/adult-male-virginity-soars.html
So this is what I'm going off. If you find a better source that shows the contrary I will believe it.
We had a thread somewhere a while back with this as the OP image.
https://boingboing.net/2021/03/22/adult-male-virginity-soars.html
So this is what I'm going off. If you find a better source that shows the contrary I will believe it.
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>>250346
>https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/variables/5060/vshow
It's a small ass number of people they asked each year they did and fuck knows what kind of group they asked.
Might as well be the same kind of surveys they use for shampoo commercials.
>https://gssdataexplorer.norc.org/variables/5060/vshow
It's a small ass number of people they asked each year they did and fuck knows what kind of group they asked.
Might as well be the same kind of surveys they use for shampoo commercials.
>>250348
I don't have another source. You win there.
But it's still a flawed conclusion: Small ass sample, the survey wasn't focusing on virginity rather it focused on "High Risk Behaviors", there's another question on the survey which asked how many men they fucked meaning it's possible some weren't virgins and were just fags (or dykes because unlike the chart proclaims, we don't know the sex of the respondents).
I don't have another source. You win there.
But it's still a flawed conclusion: Small ass sample, the survey wasn't focusing on virginity rather it focused on "High Risk Behaviors", there's another question on the survey which asked how many men they fucked meaning it's possible some weren't virgins and were just fags (or dykes because unlike the chart proclaims, we don't know the sex of the respondents).
>>250349
There are other studies that show people are losing their virginity later in life too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-lose-virginity-later-than-previous-generations-2018-5
I will concede the studies have flaws and could very well be someone massaging the numbers to fit a narrative, but until there is opposing data this is all we have to go on.
There are other studies that show people are losing their virginity later in life too.
https://www.businessinsider.com/millennials-lose-virginity-later-than-previous-generations-2018-5
I will concede the studies have flaws and could very well be someone massaging the numbers to fit a narrative, but until there is opposing data this is all we have to go on.
>>250349
lmao.
real world experience speaks louder than some samples.
I have read all of these but refuse to beleive it.
zoomer sluts like to get dicked
lmao.
real world experience speaks louder than some samples.
I have read all of these but refuse to beleive it.
zoomer sluts like to get dicked
>>250354
>crab posts his infograph
not going to fool anyone not already indoctrinated by your crab cult
>crab posts his infograph
not going to fool anyone not already indoctrinated by your crab cult
In the 90s internet, intelligence was highly esteemed. Even if people initially were just playing at intelligence. It drove them to cultivate a high vocabulary and get well read, to work to be rational/logical/friendly and to engage in debate. Academic rules of being very supportive of people you debated with and steelmanning their arguments applied. It was a safe space, an arena for sparring with a very friendly atmosphere. But then, first, a new troll culture emerged that mocked "smart" and wordy people. Trolling prior to that "punched up" at normies. Then followed a genuine anti-intellectual "tl;dr" attitude. And then finally, starting around 2011, conversations turned towards politics and social justice, and then people got emotionally invested in online exchanges. No more steelmanning..rather, people would start working to strawman, abuse, and ostracize people who didn't share their opinions. I think this really killed the netizen. I miss the 90s so much.
>>250178
There's a video about this theory called " Dead Internet Theory" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ImskTM8j0
There's a video about this theory called " Dead Internet Theory" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ImskTM8j0
>>250323
That was around the same time 4chan became insufferable for me, I don't think it ever recovered. Even r9k makes fun of people like us now.
That was around the same time 4chan became insufferable for me, I don't think it ever recovered. Even r9k makes fun of people like us now.
>>250351
If you actually did read what I posted you’d notice that in the first one succubi are not counted in the study and in the second one succubi showed higher levels of sexual activity on all levels than men.
If you actually did read what I posted you’d notice that in the first one succubi are not counted in the study and in the second one succubi showed higher levels of sexual activity on all levels than men.
>>250363
4chan is so normgroid at this point it’s revolting. The only board that isn’t is /trash/, but that shit is basically just where all the tumble trannies took refuge.
4chan is so normgroid at this point it’s revolting. The only board that isn’t is /trash/, but that shit is basically just where all the tumble trannies took refuge.
>>250366
Nigger take a second to fucking process what I wrote. It’s not normalfag territory, that doesn’t mean it’s good.
Nigger take a second to fucking process what I wrote. It’s not normalfag territory, that doesn’t mean it’s good.
>>250363
The outcast threads on /r9k/ always get ignored since nobody can relate. Pretty much the state of that board now.
The outcast threads on /r9k/ always get ignored since nobody can relate. Pretty much the state of that board now.
>>250374
Feels like I'm talking to people IRL on there now as everyone just ignores my posts or gives me abuse.
Feels like I'm talking to people IRL on there now as everyone just ignores my posts or gives me abuse.
How many times do I have to repeat it?: There are no more nerds/geeks/outcasts/wizards/outsiders of the old kind.
Dropping another paper about decline in overall sexual activity.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-021-02125-2
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-021-02125-2
>>250391
>>250350
>>250346
>>250340
>>250323
I mean sure maybe sex is declining but are you sure it's because gen z is becoming more chaste/smart/pure/etc or is it because they're very sex obsessed but only watch porn and not vent it out to others, I really can't see gen z being smart and more chaste than the previous generation they seem the same if not worse (look at their attention spans for crying out loud)
>>250350
>>250346
>>250340
>>250323
I mean sure maybe sex is declining but are you sure it's because gen z is becoming more chaste/smart/pure/etc or is it because they're very sex obsessed but only watch porn and not vent it out to others, I really can't see gen z being smart and more chaste than the previous generation they seem the same if not worse (look at their attention spans for crying out loud)
>>250397
Oh no, I am not trying to peddle some delusion about gen z being too smart for sex or that this is a good thing. In fact I think this only goes to show how fucked up they have become. And I agree they are obsessed with sex. Everything revolves around sex to them. The thing is they are mentally and socially damaged creatures. Boomers went and fucked because they were horny little kids and had decent relations with each other. I think that there is more sex being has today than ever before, but by severely fewer people. People aren’t joining up with a high school crush. They’re going on tinder and either being rejected by everyone or finding a swinger party to get a train run on them.
Oh no, I am not trying to peddle some delusion about gen z being too smart for sex or that this is a good thing. In fact I think this only goes to show how fucked up they have become. And I agree they are obsessed with sex. Everything revolves around sex to them. The thing is they are mentally and socially damaged creatures. Boomers went and fucked because they were horny little kids and had decent relations with each other. I think that there is more sex being has today than ever before, but by severely fewer people. People aren’t joining up with a high school crush. They’re going on tinder and either being rejected by everyone or finding a swinger party to get a train run on them.
>It seems as if my fellow netizens all vanished and everyone is a teenager or talks like one
You will find the nerds if your are one of them. Some are in not so obscure platforms like facebook and themed forums. You have to match the same interests so maybe it's a you problem.
You will find the nerds if your are one of them. Some are in not so obscure platforms like facebook and themed forums. You have to match the same interests so maybe it's a you problem.
>>250381
We still exist, obviously. There's just nowhere for us to openly communicate, because every corner of the internet is infested with either failed normalfags looking to fit in with the outcasts or shills that make genuine conversation impossible.
We still exist, obviously. There's just nowhere for us to openly communicate, because every corner of the internet is infested with either failed normalfags looking to fit in with the outcasts or shills that make genuine conversation impossible.
>>250406
>We still exist, obviously.
Let me correct myself: There is a finite and RAPIDLY diminishing number of nerds/geeks/outcasts/wizards/outsiders of the old kind.
It's funny, one of the threads was asking what comes after the last nerds/geeks/outcasts/wizards/outsiders and some conclusions were they'd live in the woods Ted-style or they'd be unrecognisable to us, some said we might be mistaking them as improvebrahs because with nothing left they'd spend time just getting fit. Or there'd no follow up to us.
>We still exist, obviously.
Let me correct myself: There is a finite and RAPIDLY diminishing number of nerds/geeks/outcasts/wizards/outsiders of the old kind.
It's funny, one of the threads was asking what comes after the last nerds/geeks/outcasts/wizards/outsiders and some conclusions were they'd live in the woods Ted-style or they'd be unrecognisable to us, some said we might be mistaking them as improvebrahs because with nothing left they'd spend time just getting fit. Or there'd no follow up to us.
>>250361
That theory certainly fits, describing the same thing. However as far as I understand it doesn't mention how such a system could work, only the observations that show something is off with the whole thing.
The point I make is that if there were just 3 split instances of the internet, the number of people on the side that has been split would appear one third the size it actually is. One third the posts, one third the original content. Meanwhile the other side produces content that is seen by all, therefore massively watering down what the undesirable content. Imagine now if this was split into 10, 50, 100 instances. Imagine seeing just 1% of content from the side that you've been segmented into. The world could be at breaking point and you would think you were practically the only one who felt that way.
A website like wizchan needs not be compromised to be affected by a scheme like this. It might well have only a single instance that is truly 'real' to the eyes of those who run it, where ISPs then mirror other instances at a IP-DNS request level. Never to be seen by others who have no social network that allows for them to communicate with others. This is instancing at its most frightening and could only be disproven if you met someone so far detached from you and access wizchan on their hardware such that you catch glimpse of what might as well be another timeline. It's horrifying to think about.
That theory certainly fits, describing the same thing. However as far as I understand it doesn't mention how such a system could work, only the observations that show something is off with the whole thing.
The point I make is that if there were just 3 split instances of the internet, the number of people on the side that has been split would appear one third the size it actually is. One third the posts, one third the original content. Meanwhile the other side produces content that is seen by all, therefore massively watering down what the undesirable content. Imagine now if this was split into 10, 50, 100 instances. Imagine seeing just 1% of content from the side that you've been segmented into. The world could be at breaking point and you would think you were practically the only one who felt that way.
A website like wizchan needs not be compromised to be affected by a scheme like this. It might well have only a single instance that is truly 'real' to the eyes of those who run it, where ISPs then mirror other instances at a IP-DNS request level. Never to be seen by others who have no social network that allows for them to communicate with others. This is instancing at its most frightening and could only be disproven if you met someone so far detached from you and access wizchan on their hardware such that you catch glimpse of what might as well be another timeline. It's horrifying to think about.
>>250410
>some said we might be mistaking them as improvebrahs because with nothing left they'd spend time just getting fit. Or there'd no follow up to us.
That's exactly what I'm doing now. No, not for succubi, because I just don't give a shit about them.
I bulk up, lift, cut to be stronger against normies and to improve my personal health.
>some said we might be mistaking them as improvebrahs because with nothing left they'd spend time just getting fit. Or there'd no follow up to us.
That's exactly what I'm doing now. No, not for succubi, because I just don't give a shit about them.
I bulk up, lift, cut to be stronger against normies and to improve my personal health.
https://mobile.twitter.com/lumpythecook/status/1313531300721164290
pictures of old internet users. now theyd be abused on every platform as the normal social world has taken over.
pictures of old internet users. now theyd be abused on every platform as the normal social world has taken over.
>>250428
>I repetitively lift heavy objects for my health
Is there any worse cope than this? You and all the other improvebrahs lift for vanity and because you have nothing better to do. That's fine, by the way. Just stop pretending you're doing it for vague "health" reasons.
It'd be like me saying I play video games to improve my hand-eye coordination. It may true to an extent that they do that, but it's a bullshit reason and everybody knows it. I do it because I want to.
>I repetitively lift heavy objects for my health
Is there any worse cope than this? You and all the other improvebrahs lift for vanity and because you have nothing better to do. That's fine, by the way. Just stop pretending you're doing it for vague "health" reasons.
It'd be like me saying I play video games to improve my hand-eye coordination. It may true to an extent that they do that, but it's a bullshit reason and everybody knows it. I do it because I want to.
>>250450
Lift is a nice hobby, but if a person is doing it for health reasons, I'm pretty sure just a short body weight routine and walk/running is enough for that.
I enjoy lifting and my mind complains if I go a day without working out and I'm sure this can't be health if I feel bad when I don't work out.
Lift is a nice hobby, but if a person is doing it for health reasons, I'm pretty sure just a short body weight routine and walk/running is enough for that.
I enjoy lifting and my mind complains if I go a day without working out and I'm sure this can't be health if I feel bad when I don't work out.
>>250428
I think the next set of outcasts, wizards, outsiders etc., if they exist, will not be on the internet in a recognisable way or maybe not even on the internet at all.
>>250444
It's strange, I can't figure out if Gen Z's version of these goons have been absorbed into the monoculture, or stripped off their identity and just become homeless mental cases or just killed at birth like some ancient g(r)eek society.
Like I don't see low-status females anymore except cat ladies or bag ladies.
I think the next set of outcasts, wizards, outsiders etc., if they exist, will not be on the internet in a recognisable way or maybe not even on the internet at all.
>>250444
It's strange, I can't figure out if Gen Z's version of these goons have been absorbed into the monoculture, or stripped off their identity and just become homeless mental cases or just killed at birth like some ancient g(r)eek society.
Like I don't see low-status females anymore except cat ladies or bag ladies.
>>250477
> It's strange, I can't figure out if Gen Z's version of these goons have been absorbed into the monoculture, or stripped off their identity and just become homeless mental cases or just killed at birth like some ancient g(r)eek society.
A little of both probably. Thanks to the Jordan Peterson types telling men everything is their fault and to clean their room, being different is no longer tolerated. In the past, people who fit in to these categories would be shunned and made fun of, but otherwise still allowed to exist. That's not the case anymore. Men are either shamed into "self-improving" so they look and act like good little boys, or they're totally cut from society. There is no middle ground anymore.
> It's strange, I can't figure out if Gen Z's version of these goons have been absorbed into the monoculture, or stripped off their identity and just become homeless mental cases or just killed at birth like some ancient g(r)eek society.
A little of both probably. Thanks to the Jordan Peterson types telling men everything is their fault and to clean their room, being different is no longer tolerated. In the past, people who fit in to these categories would be shunned and made fun of, but otherwise still allowed to exist. That's not the case anymore. Men are either shamed into "self-improving" so they look and act like good little boys, or they're totally cut from society. There is no middle ground anymore.
>>250444
>>250477
I can't put my finger on it either. I don't know any Gen Z retards personally but it is strange that the "losers" in their generation don't seem to exist except on the fringes of society (that could also be because I live in a city that's being eaten away by the rich and beautiful folk).
What follows is a mess but maybe somebody can make it more coherent:
>or stripped of their identity and just become homeless mental cases
I don't think it's intentional, at least consciously, but I think a lot of (higher-status) normalfucks have a completely different narrative to who they really are. When I'm on my way to my wageslave supermarket job, I pass by a lot of hipsters and yuppies all decked out in upmarket threads (probably made in some backwater sweatshop) with some bullshit feelgood slogan about helping people, loving each other, diversity, being green or some other shit but the way they breeze past homeless people or treat service workers with contempt is fucking unbelievable. They probably believe that they are shiny good people because of this (contradictory) image they painstakingly maintain.
Now how this relates to Gen Z and geeks is this - now that geek culture is almost completely, if not entirely, been absorbed by the monoculture, normalfags can use the identity in it's entirety. Being a geek meant you were an underdog and now the normalfags can use that to bolster their identity.
>>250477
I can't put my finger on it either. I don't know any Gen Z retards personally but it is strange that the "losers" in their generation don't seem to exist except on the fringes of society (that could also be because I live in a city that's being eaten away by the rich and beautiful folk).
What follows is a mess but maybe somebody can make it more coherent:
>or stripped of their identity and just become homeless mental cases
I don't think it's intentional, at least consciously, but I think a lot of (higher-status) normalfucks have a completely different narrative to who they really are. When I'm on my way to my wageslave supermarket job, I pass by a lot of hipsters and yuppies all decked out in upmarket threads (probably made in some backwater sweatshop) with some bullshit feelgood slogan about helping people, loving each other, diversity, being green or some other shit but the way they breeze past homeless people or treat service workers with contempt is fucking unbelievable. They probably believe that they are shiny good people because of this (contradictory) image they painstakingly maintain.
Now how this relates to Gen Z and geeks is this - now that geek culture is almost completely, if not entirely, been absorbed by the monoculture, normalfags can use the identity in it's entirety. Being a geek meant you were an underdog and now the normalfags can use that to bolster their identity.
>>250478
> In the past, people who fit in to these categories would be shunned and made fun of, but otherwise still allowed to exist. That's not the case anymore.
Some wiz posited the opposite of what you said: youngsters have all sorts of subcultures, communities and niches to fit into on the net, so there aren't really outsiders in the traditional sense anymore.
> In the past, people who fit in to these categories would be shunned and made fun of, but otherwise still allowed to exist. That's not the case anymore.
Some wiz posited the opposite of what you said: youngsters have all sorts of subcultures, communities and niches to fit into on the net, so there aren't really outsiders in the traditional sense anymore.
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Stop having mental breakdowns at wigger talk. "old internet was better" threads were cooler back when people would post images they saved from long dead communities they used to hang out in, in between the complaining about facebook. Now these threads just sound like teenagers pretending they're adults, whining at "the youth". Don't get it twisted, there's always been retards. Ignore the retards of today, and stop using any social messenger you currently use if you can't find good people on them. Chroist.
A bit late but the
>Nobody:
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template you see on every comments section is driving me insane. This utter lack of originality is incredibly annoying.
>Nobody:
>Somebody:
template you see on every comments section is driving me insane. This utter lack of originality is incredibly annoying.
>>250936
I quit using youtube years ago but still occasionally will click on a YT video and I always make sure to look at the comments. My point is that there used to always be your stupid memes from day dot of youtube but now it is nothing but stupid fucking memes.
I hate this shit too wiz
I quit using youtube years ago but still occasionally will click on a YT video and I always make sure to look at the comments. My point is that there used to always be your stupid memes from day dot of youtube but now it is nothing but stupid fucking memes.
I hate this shit too wiz
>>250936
I've been seeing that less and less lately, I think it's phasing out but still some retards doing it
I've been seeing that less and less lately, I think it's phasing out but still some retards doing it
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Internet users in early new millenia were 99% people interested in computers and technology in general (alongside many niche interests'); today 99% of users are people with no interest whatsoever in technology.
Not all places have changed. Many linux forums are just as they were, especially linuxquestions.org and Gentoo forums.
IRC is still in many respect the same, but even those old users are very ofter multiservice-users.
It should be comforting to know that you're not losing anything by being 'out of touch', that is by not reading all the useless bullshit comments and the nonsense 'discussions' on the latter day social media.
Not all places have changed. Many linux forums are just as they were, especially linuxquestions.org and Gentoo forums.
IRC is still in many respect the same, but even those old users are very ofter multiservice-users.
It should be comforting to know that you're not losing anything by being 'out of touch', that is by not reading all the useless bullshit comments and the nonsense 'discussions' on the latter day social media.
>>250948
Not only is he not losing anyting by being out of touch but he is gaining and improving his mental health by avoiding all that dumb normie cancer
Not only is he not losing anyting by being out of touch but he is gaining and improving his mental health by avoiding all that dumb normie cancer
>>250949
Exactly. I can't bash my head against the wall enough, when people feel "left" out by not being able to interact with those 60IQ subhuman spouting one liners and 'gangsta' slang over and over.
What could possibly result from friendship with these cretins? Why do you want to know them or befriend them? Just because they are your age?
Exactly. I can't bash my head against the wall enough, when people feel "left" out by not being able to interact with those 60IQ subhuman spouting one liners and 'gangsta' slang over and over.
What could possibly result from friendship with these cretins? Why do you want to know them or befriend them? Just because they are your age?
Internet culture has changed a lot in the past ten years. Not really because of young people, but because everything is locked down and controlled by big centralized services.
The internet was a magical lawless land in the late 90s and early 2000s, now it is just another boring normie hangout.
The internet was a magical lawless land in the late 90s and early 2000s, now it is just another boring normie hangout.
>>250138
It is natural, you grow old you lose touch with youth. The things you are interested started to differ from what youngsters are interested in.
One reason I lurk this place is precisely due to age. I cannot reasonate with zoomers on other anonymous image boards. I don't have social media, reddit nor am I active in drama ridden small communities like boards or discords. wizchan is one of the few places I can talk about 2000s without getting weirded out.
It is natural, you grow old you lose touch with youth. The things you are interested started to differ from what youngsters are interested in.
One reason I lurk this place is precisely due to age. I cannot reasonate with zoomers on other anonymous image boards. I don't have social media, reddit nor am I active in drama ridden small communities like boards or discords. wizchan is one of the few places I can talk about 2000s without getting weirded out.
As an outcast you likely grow more and more divergent from society, with less and less people that you can relate to each year. Every day, people you previously related to, that are around your age, are committing suicide, or become integrated into the borg cube. After a certain point, relatable people give up on finding each other in a game theoretic feedback loop: the only person that you would want to find would be unfindable because they wouldnt be participating in this decrepit shithole of the internet, so then you yourself should stop looking and make yourself unfindable
>>250970
>It is natural, you grow old you lose touch with youth. The things you are interested started to differ from what youngsters are interested in.
It's one thing to lose touch, it's another thing when the youth seem to be utterly lacking in creativity or imagination and just regurgitate the same shit over and over.
Everything they do online is recognizable.
>It is natural, you grow old you lose touch with youth. The things you are interested started to differ from what youngsters are interested in.
It's one thing to lose touch, it's another thing when the youth seem to be utterly lacking in creativity or imagination and just regurgitate the same shit over and over.
Everything they do online is recognizable.
>>250970
>It is natural, you grow old you lose touch with youth.
I don't think this is the same at all. I am still very much a youth and this exact feeling I have that I presume OP has also has no boundaries.
Maybe nothing has changed except not valuing being among my kin (NEET outcasts)as if I realized the bond was superficial but I cannot put my finger down on this being the cause. There has both been a change internally and externally. The external one is obvious we would not be feeling like everyone vanished if it was only growing older.
>>250971
This makes a lot of sense. I don't put myself out there unless 'here' is 'out there'. I have quit the internet before and found the only use it had was media to consume with the rest being a novel way to waste time.
>It is natural, you grow old you lose touch with youth.
I don't think this is the same at all. I am still very much a youth and this exact feeling I have that I presume OP has also has no boundaries.
Maybe nothing has changed except not valuing being among my kin (NEET outcasts)as if I realized the bond was superficial but I cannot put my finger down on this being the cause. There has both been a change internally and externally. The external one is obvious we would not be feeling like everyone vanished if it was only growing older.
>>250971
This makes a lot of sense. I don't put myself out there unless 'here' is 'out there'. I have quit the internet before and found the only use it had was media to consume with the rest being a novel way to waste time.
>>250138
I feel like wizchan is one of the few places that still has a bit of that 'old' internet feel to it. I think the primary reason for this is probably because it seems like most people here post their own thoughts which they formed mostly by themselves and aren't just spouting the same old memes or hiding behind irony, etc, the kind of thing you see in most other places now.
I remember that from old forums, sites, discussion boards, people would write their own thoughts almost always and it's always more interesting to read rather than seeing the same soi image posts or the constant contrarian negativity and relentless character attacks. Those things can be funny and even bland youtube comments might make me laugh now and then, but I really miss large active communities full of people sharing their honest and well-balanced outlook on things. Wizchan pretty good for that but this place is really slow so I only visit once a month or so, and things are generally more depressing on here than the old internet used to feel
I feel like wizchan is one of the few places that still has a bit of that 'old' internet feel to it. I think the primary reason for this is probably because it seems like most people here post their own thoughts which they formed mostly by themselves and aren't just spouting the same old memes or hiding behind irony, etc, the kind of thing you see in most other places now.
I remember that from old forums, sites, discussion boards, people would write their own thoughts almost always and it's always more interesting to read rather than seeing the same soi image posts or the constant contrarian negativity and relentless character attacks. Those things can be funny and even bland youtube comments might make me laugh now and then, but I really miss large active communities full of people sharing their honest and well-balanced outlook on things. Wizchan pretty good for that but this place is really slow so I only visit once a month or so, and things are generally more depressing on here than the old internet used to feel
>>251041
The ugly truth though is that the users here are less neurotypical than average, and at least based on my observations higher IQ and more introspective than the average internet user.
You have no idea how calming it is to read a place like this for a non-NT brain.
The ugly truth though is that the users here are less neurotypical than average, and at least based on my observations higher IQ and more introspective than the average internet user.
You have no idea how calming it is to read a place like this for a non-NT brain.
>>251041
>I feel like wizchan is one of the few places that still has a bit of that 'old' internet feel to it.
A bit. Not much more than that. And probably, like me, you only read a select few threads where that old spirit remains.
>>251044
>neurotypical
When the fuck did people start using that word earnestly?
>I feel like wizchan is one of the few places that still has a bit of that 'old' internet feel to it.
A bit. Not much more than that. And probably, like me, you only read a select few threads where that old spirit remains.
>>251044
>neurotypical
When the fuck did people start using that word earnestly?
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>>251050
how a neurotypical might respond:
how a neurotypical might respond:
>>251056
>What if they just took a shit on the cards or something?
4chan tried something similar with pepe scat/violence edits and it backfired horribly
>What if they just took a shit on the cards or something?
4chan tried something similar with pepe scat/violence edits and it backfired horribly
>>251058
the normalfags on 4chan loved the stuff and just made the wojack/pepe shit even more beaten to death until it's the only thing people post
the normalfags on 4chan loved the stuff and just made the wojack/pepe shit even more beaten to death until it's the only thing people post
>>251060
Bringing back /l/ would induce a collective meltdown in both the normalfaggot invaders and advertisers alike. It would be like the biblical deluge, 4chan awash in moralfagging fury amidst a mass exodus of all the normalfolk.
Bringing back /l/ would induce a collective meltdown in both the normalfaggot invaders and advertisers alike. It would be like the biblical deluge, 4chan awash in moralfagging fury amidst a mass exodus of all the normalfolk.
>>251060
Taking away the rules would just make the place shittier. Normalfags love to pull out their smart phones and hop on 4chan on their lunchbreak at work to read/make shitpost brainfarts. I don't know how you can even use 4chan now though. I haven't been there in 7-8 years and can't look at it for more than a few minutes before getting bored, knowing that your posts are basically meaningless and will be flushed off page 10 in 20 minutes makes me not even want to post
Taking away the rules would just make the place shittier. Normalfags love to pull out their smart phones and hop on 4chan on their lunchbreak at work to read/make shitpost brainfarts. I don't know how you can even use 4chan now though. I haven't been there in 7-8 years and can't look at it for more than a few minutes before getting bored, knowing that your posts are basically meaningless and will be flushed off page 10 in 20 minutes makes me not even want to post
>>251050
Good rant it hit home. Anyone decent on 4chan only ever posts out of habit or to hang onto that faint feeling of belonging. main chan dying could be a good thing if it means some type of exodus occurs possibly to a different style of forum that is still anonymous (maybe not image board who knows).
>>251057
of course normalfags love funny frog and feels man depicted in crude ways.
Good rant it hit home. Anyone decent on 4chan only ever posts out of habit or to hang onto that faint feeling of belonging. main chan dying could be a good thing if it means some type of exodus occurs possibly to a different style of forum that is still anonymous (maybe not image board who knows).
>>251057
of course normalfags love funny frog and feels man depicted in crude ways.
>>251068
Why the hell would you come to an anonymous board just to try and not be anonymous, are you retarded
Why the hell would you come to an anonymous board just to try and not be anonymous, are you retarded
>>251041
>I feel like wizchan is one of the few places that still has a bit of that 'old' internet feel to it.
It doesn't. It's filled with succubi, normalfags and zoomers. It's easy enough to detect their posts.
>I feel like wizchan is one of the few places that still has a bit of that 'old' internet feel to it.
It doesn't. It's filled with succubi, normalfags and zoomers. It's easy enough to detect their posts.
>>251200
There are traces. And I mean like faint traces, certain posts that bring you back to old internet feels like a watermark left long after tide has completely disappeared.
There are traces. And I mean like faint traces, certain posts that bring you back to old internet feels like a watermark left long after tide has completely disappeared.
>>250138
>I cannot be the only one who is experiencing this phenomenon.
no your not ive become acclimated to it if i want intellectual stimulus i read a book
>I cannot be the only one who is experiencing this phenomenon.
no your not ive become acclimated to it if i want intellectual stimulus i read a book
Honestly It feels like I'm too old for this shit (and I'm just 26).
Kids these days use twitch, discord, twitter and other shit that I don't understand, they use lingo that I don't get, these kids watch unfunny retards and "gamer succubus" whores play instead of playing themselves, and create these huge drama on discord channels and shit, why? why would anyone take this shit that seriously?
I grew up in forums where people were kind of civil and almost everyone was a genuine nerd who knew shit (it was almost a requisite to connect to the internet back then) and now it's full of zoomers with retarded and vapid culture, it feels so surreal, like I accidentally entered a new and idiot world.
Kids these days use twitch, discord, twitter and other shit that I don't understand, they use lingo that I don't get, these kids watch unfunny retards and "gamer succubus" whores play instead of playing themselves, and create these huge drama on discord channels and shit, why? why would anyone take this shit that seriously?
I grew up in forums where people were kind of civil and almost everyone was a genuine nerd who knew shit (it was almost a requisite to connect to the internet back then) and now it's full of zoomers with retarded and vapid culture, it feels so surreal, like I accidentally entered a new and idiot world.
>>251200
Failed normyism is on the rise like never before. Wizchan will adjust to become a place for people who are simply virgins/celibate/single and are otherwise quite well adjusted to life.
The real hikikomoris will end up degenerating into using something more underground or just not using anything and sitting in isolation going mad
Failed normyism is on the rise like never before. Wizchan will adjust to become a place for people who are simply virgins/celibate/single and are otherwise quite well adjusted to life.
The real hikikomoris will end up degenerating into using something more underground or just not using anything and sitting in isolation going mad
>>251695
>Wizchan will adjust to become a place for people who are simply virgins/celibate/single and are otherwise quite well adjusted to life.
This already happened, we have legit dudebros who have been approached by succubi on a daily basis, with good jobs and tons of money, with normal lives except for the fact that they're virgins (if they're not even lying about it).
We had legit attempts to create "improvebruh" generals, I warned you all about this, being a virgin shouldn't be enough to post here, virginity should be the absolute minimum and gatekeep even more.
>Wizchan will adjust to become a place for people who are simply virgins/celibate/single and are otherwise quite well adjusted to life.
This already happened, we have legit dudebros who have been approached by succubi on a daily basis, with good jobs and tons of money, with normal lives except for the fact that they're virgins (if they're not even lying about it).
We had legit attempts to create "improvebruh" generals, I warned you all about this, being a virgin shouldn't be enough to post here, virginity should be the absolute minimum and gatekeep even more.
>>251697
What are some prerequisites to posting that you would suggest?
Good looks and a decent income might be out of the question; I doubt a wizard can choose whether they're attractive or not, and many of the STEM-nerd-yuppie types here are likely to land cushy jobs.
What are some prerequisites to posting that you would suggest?
Good looks and a decent income might be out of the question; I doubt a wizard can choose whether they're attractive or not, and many of the STEM-nerd-yuppie types here are likely to land cushy jobs.
>>251697
>This already happened, we have legit dudebros who have been approached by succubi on a daily basis, with good jobs and tons of money, with normal lives except for the fact that they're virgins (if they're not even lying about it).
You actually believe them? Holy shit.
>>251695
>Failed normyism is on the rise like never before.
I see 'truwiz' zoomers are trying expand the LARP.
>This already happened, we have legit dudebros who have been approached by succubi on a daily basis, with good jobs and tons of money, with normal lives except for the fact that they're virgins (if they're not even lying about it).
You actually believe them? Holy shit.
>>251695
>Failed normyism is on the rise like never before.
I see 'truwiz' zoomers are trying expand the LARP.
>>250807
yeah it’s really just late millennials and early zoomers complaining in this thread
yeah it’s really just late millennials and early zoomers complaining in this thread
Interesting to see few posts talking about how the out of touchness comes around mid 20s. I think this is very true.
I realized I lost connection with the youth around the same age too. Mind you this is different from being outside pop culture. I think every one of us is outside pop culture one way or the other but being totally outside the culture is something different. Culture almost always targets youth and you realize you are not in that demographic anymore around mid 20s.
What got me was Life Is Strange. The first game that came out in late 2014. I felt the enviroment, the school, the lingo of the kids and so forth were totally different and I couldn't resonate at all. And they were what 6-7 years younger than me? Not that much of a gap per se.
I realized I lost connection with the youth around the same age too. Mind you this is different from being outside pop culture. I think every one of us is outside pop culture one way or the other but being totally outside the culture is something different. Culture almost always targets youth and you realize you are not in that demographic anymore around mid 20s.
What got me was Life Is Strange. The first game that came out in late 2014. I felt the enviroment, the school, the lingo of the kids and so forth were totally different and I couldn't resonate at all. And they were what 6-7 years younger than me? Not that much of a gap per se.
>>252618
>life is strange
lol, that game was written by out of touch quebecs trying to write american teens.
>life is strange
lol, that game was written by out of touch quebecs trying to write american teens.
>>252589
>and early zoomers
I see zoomers are trying to include themselves in the web 2.0 days. Gen Z starts 95-97 depending on who you ask, so the oldest gen z faggots would be 3-5 years old in 2000. You're not part of it.
Must be some sort of self-awareness seeping in when they realized that their generation was the one that ate tide pods for a social media challenge.
>and early zoomers
I see zoomers are trying to include themselves in the web 2.0 days. Gen Z starts 95-97 depending on who you ask, so the oldest gen z faggots would be 3-5 years old in 2000. You're not part of it.
Must be some sort of self-awareness seeping in when they realized that their generation was the one that ate tide pods for a social media challenge.
>>252623
i was born in early 90s and i do agree with your sentiments. it seems like most wizanons always assume me i’m a zoomer i can’t blame them i’m braindead as they’re are. im not really defending mid 90s zoomers but whatever just call me zoomer you want im too
braindead to explain myself properly
i was born in early 90s and i do agree with your sentiments. it seems like most wizanons always assume me i’m a zoomer i can’t blame them i’m braindead as they’re are. im not really defending mid 90s zoomers but whatever just call me zoomer you want im too
braindead to explain myself properly
I’m sick of all this zoomer boomer millennial garbage. People are people, your bins and labels are meaningless bullshit.
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>>252719
people categorize and stereotype because it's the easiest and laziest thing to do. Look at other threads here, like the one about lookism or something, where some posts are talking bullshit about how stereotyping is good, because if someone is ugly and colored their hair they must be part of some political organization, it's getting ridiculous.
There exists a subreddit where people talk about their trauma and how life can fuck one over, where you think those people would use their brain and be able to show empathy, but once a thread about how much boomers (in general) suck came up, so many were riding the bandwagon and downvoted every opposing opinion, things got real nasty fast, maybe people need scapegoats or something to vent, but that makes life so much more retarded than it needs to be.
people categorize and stereotype because it's the easiest and laziest thing to do. Look at other threads here, like the one about lookism or something, where some posts are talking bullshit about how stereotyping is good, because if someone is ugly and colored their hair they must be part of some political organization, it's getting ridiculous.
There exists a subreddit where people talk about their trauma and how life can fuck one over, where you think those people would use their brain and be able to show empathy, but once a thread about how much boomers (in general) suck came up, so many were riding the bandwagon and downvoted every opposing opinion, things got real nasty fast, maybe people need scapegoats or something to vent, but that makes life so much more retarded than it needs to be.
>>252740
Profiling and grouping is a part of the human experience. You're the one that should quit whining and give up your idealism. Join us in the real world, where yes animals make judgements/assumptions based on appearances consciously or subconsciously. Stereotypes are formed because of experience driven patterns. If they were constantly wrong they wouldn't exist in the first place. Also read the rules while you're at it, no females. No male would ever think of to defend dyed hair for any reason even if he's a zoomer fag that dyes his own hair.
Profiling and grouping is a part of the human experience. You're the one that should quit whining and give up your idealism. Join us in the real world, where yes animals make judgements/assumptions based on appearances consciously or subconsciously. Stereotypes are formed because of experience driven patterns. If they were constantly wrong they wouldn't exist in the first place. Also read the rules while you're at it, no females. No male would ever think of to defend dyed hair for any reason even if he's a zoomer fag that dyes his own hair.
The fact that my post got deleted but the pathetic insults stay speaks volumes about the circle jerk going on here, what a great place for discussion, except if you're not in line with the most pathetic posters here haha.
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>>252764
Welcome to the internet bud. Why do you think all the posters here are miserable?
Also your original post that actually had something of value is still up.
Welcome to the internet bud. Why do you think all the posters here are miserable?
Also your original post that actually had something of value is still up.
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>>252812
The one I dislike the most is "consoomer". It's so incredibly hypocritical and facile.
The one I dislike the most is "consoomer". It's so incredibly hypocritical and facile.
I feel like there's probably just something like a hundred of us in this "bubble" on the internet, max, which seems crazy. It felt like there was thousands of us.
Even on anonymous imageboards now people try to brag about how much of a normalfag they are.
People have just become more ashamed of being a "loser" online now, maybe it's an ego thing.
Everyone used to seem a lot more genuine and open before.
Even on anonymous imageboards now people try to brag about how much of a normalfag they are.
People have just become more ashamed of being a "loser" online now, maybe it's an ego thing.
Everyone used to seem a lot more genuine and open before.
>>252824
I really hate to break it to you but people were bragging about being normalfags for a long time. The only thing is that there were people who were decidedly not normalfags who would shitpost about the NEET life and wizard powers. And those people just got ran out by the overwhelming swaths of normalfags. It’s because of the homogenization of the internet. People post on anonymous places in the exact manner they would on Twitter or Reddit, places with accounts that will track you. So there are no longer spaces where people feel free to be sincere, they need to keep their public mask on at all times. There’s more reasons for this beside what I mentioned but I feel it’s the one that contributed the most.
I really hate to break it to you but people were bragging about being normalfags for a long time. The only thing is that there were people who were decidedly not normalfags who would shitpost about the NEET life and wizard powers. And those people just got ran out by the overwhelming swaths of normalfags. It’s because of the homogenization of the internet. People post on anonymous places in the exact manner they would on Twitter or Reddit, places with accounts that will track you. So there are no longer spaces where people feel free to be sincere, they need to keep their public mask on at all times. There’s more reasons for this beside what I mentioned but I feel it’s the one that contributed the most.
The one that is just "the oomer" and says oo ooo ooo lol ooo is kinda funny because whoever made that was calling them all the cancer and retards that they are LMOA
>>252719
I'm not. This zoomer boomer meme is a perfect representation of Gen Z, unoriginal, derivative and reductive, and has the contempt that Gen Z has towards anything that's before their time but still using material from before their time. (IIRC, at some point the '>tfw 30yo boomer' popped up when normalfags finished flooding the internet).
The meme *itself* (and it's shite derivatives) is crap.
I'm not. This zoomer boomer meme is a perfect representation of Gen Z, unoriginal, derivative and reductive, and has the contempt that Gen Z has towards anything that's before their time but still using material from before their time. (IIRC, at some point the '>tfw 30yo boomer' popped up when normalfags finished flooding the internet).
The meme *itself* (and it's shite derivatives) is crap.
>>252864
That…doesn't mean anything.
That's just you being mad. This is a thread about how things have changed over time and it's going to reference how people and generations have changed.
That…doesn't mean anything.
That's just you being mad. This is a thread about how things have changed over time and it's going to reference how people and generations have changed.
>>252869
>only retards put things into categories
It's useful to put things into categories, to compare and analyze things, things can change gradually and abruptly. Sometimes there are obvious cutoff points.
I don't know you're so mad unless you're in Generation Zoomer and realize what a craptastic generation you've been born into.
It would be mental to pretend that a generation that still has a memory of analog tech would have the same relationship to the internet to a generation that's always online anywhere. It's 2022, we're well away from the cutoff point.
>only retards put things into categories
It's useful to put things into categories, to compare and analyze things, things can change gradually and abruptly. Sometimes there are obvious cutoff points.
I don't know you're so mad unless you're in Generation Zoomer and realize what a craptastic generation you've been born into.
It would be mental to pretend that a generation that still has a memory of analog tech would have the same relationship to the internet to a generation that's always online anywhere. It's 2022, we're well away from the cutoff point.
>>252885
Categories are great if they actually have any meaningful similarities. Generations are arbitrary points in time. I don’t even know if I’m gen z or not cause everyone moves the goddamn cut off dates.
Categories are great if they actually have any meaningful similarities. Generations are arbitrary points in time. I don’t even know if I’m gen z or not cause everyone moves the goddamn cut off dates.
>>252886
No, you *want* it to be arbitrary. The cut-off year for Gen Z floats around the mid-90s, it never moves beyond that.
No, you *want* it to be arbitrary. The cut-off year for Gen Z floats around the mid-90s, it never moves beyond that.
>>252895
>>252886
Generations are fucking retarded. So retarded, in fact, that they had to make up a microgeneration called Xennials. Why? Because surprise, surprise, people born in the late 70's to early 80's don't fit neatly into either generation. The same "minor amendment" will happen to the Zennials in 15 years. People who were born in the mid-90s will never quite be millennials or zoomers cuz this cookie cutter boom er bullshit is lame as fuck. Fuck the MSM too for going "hurr durr muhlennial" every 5 seconds, knowing self-important boomers will eat that shit up every time.
>>252886
Generations are fucking retarded. So retarded, in fact, that they had to make up a microgeneration called Xennials. Why? Because surprise, surprise, people born in the late 70's to early 80's don't fit neatly into either generation. The same "minor amendment" will happen to the Zennials in 15 years. People who were born in the mid-90s will never quite be millennials or zoomers cuz this cookie cutter boom er bullshit is lame as fuck. Fuck the MSM too for going "hurr durr muhlennial" every 5 seconds, knowing self-important boomers will eat that shit up every time.
>>250138
I am in the same boat. I have no idea what people are talking about a significant amount of the time. So much of what they put out there is pollutive to the mind.
I blame smartphones, the barriers to entry for using the internet being eliminated, and the concentration of interaction to a handful of websites.
I am in the same boat. I have no idea what people are talking about a significant amount of the time. So much of what they put out there is pollutive to the mind.
I blame smartphones, the barriers to entry for using the internet being eliminated, and the concentration of interaction to a handful of websites.
>>252905
You calling things retarded doesn't make them retarded.
The exact cut-off point may be slightly fuzzy but it's generally situated in the mid-90s and never goes beyond 97. 95 is what most give. Three things that define the millennials are the growth of the internet, 9/11 and entering the workforce as the recession hit. Zoomers have always been online and 9/11 is an unremembered memory for the few zoomers who were alive.
>>252932
You want my cut off date? 92-95 are proto-zoomers and 95 onwards are Gen Z.
You calling things retarded doesn't make them retarded.
The exact cut-off point may be slightly fuzzy but it's generally situated in the mid-90s and never goes beyond 97. 95 is what most give. Three things that define the millennials are the growth of the internet, 9/11 and entering the workforce as the recession hit. Zoomers have always been online and 9/11 is an unremembered memory for the few zoomers who were alive.
>>252932
You want my cut off date? 92-95 are proto-zoomers and 95 onwards are Gen Z.
>>253237
But we're having plenty of decent and stimulating conversations on /dep/ right now.
But we're having plenty of decent and stimulating conversations on /dep/ right now.
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>>253239
So we're posting random public transportation videos now? Okay.
So we're posting random public transportation videos now? Okay.
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>>253238
You get burned at the stake as a heretic if you don't follow the board religion of neo pessimism with LDAR characteristics.
You get burned at the stake as a heretic if you don't follow the board religion of neo pessimism with LDAR characteristics.
>>253319
Yes, why else would I post on /dep/? Just because I am depressed does not mean I think that the world is evil and that it's not possible to find happiness. Whenever I post here, or on any board/thread that depends on posting personal opinions on life rather than discussing hobbies I just nothing but shitposts. It's very tiring that the only human interaction that I can find is the horde of normals participating in a superficial culture or the usual band of screeching children that you find on imageboards.
Yes, why else would I post on /dep/? Just because I am depressed does not mean I think that the world is evil and that it's not possible to find happiness. Whenever I post here, or on any board/thread that depends on posting personal opinions on life rather than discussing hobbies I just nothing but shitposts. It's very tiring that the only human interaction that I can find is the horde of normals participating in a superficial culture or the usual band of screeching children that you find on imageboards.
>>250138
>People do not seem to want to have discussions anymore online and instead post a meme or use a few words to express themselves
This is down to decreased attention spans and instant gratification.
>People do not seem to want to have discussions anymore online and instead post a meme or use a few words to express themselves
This is down to decreased attention spans and instant gratification.
>>253465
Possibly. But it’s a self perpetuating cycle. I used to try and talk with people on the internet, but as the level of discourse dropped I got to the point of “why bother” because they would just post a meme and fuck off. And so that’s just what I do, because i know no one will ever engage me and so there no point in taking the effort to write a post.
Possibly. But it’s a self perpetuating cycle. I used to try and talk with people on the internet, but as the level of discourse dropped I got to the point of “why bother” because they would just post a meme and fuck off. And so that’s just what I do, because i know no one will ever engage me and so there no point in taking the effort to write a post.
>>253468
This. All the good discussion is, sadly, disappearing into private groups in which one must be part of a trusted inner circle. The reason they don't engage or bother devoting more brainpower to the discussion is because they get their fill of intellectual stimulation elsewhere, in non-anonymous contexts. Anonymous communication, for them, is akin to shooting off whatever backed-up mental jizz they've leftover from the day before getting back to their real lives.
This. All the good discussion is, sadly, disappearing into private groups in which one must be part of a trusted inner circle. The reason they don't engage or bother devoting more brainpower to the discussion is because they get their fill of intellectual stimulation elsewhere, in non-anonymous contexts. Anonymous communication, for them, is akin to shooting off whatever backed-up mental jizz they've leftover from the day before getting back to their real lives.
>>253471
I’d argue it disappeared already. When social media became tied to your identity like Facebook, people had to start patrolling what they say. And so they come to anonymous places to let out all the depraved shit they had to hold back. Along with what you said it’s why imageboards are just hard to use now u less you can find the small islands of discourse like this thread or other imageboards that kiwifarms and the other normalfags haven’t gotten to yet.
I’d argue it disappeared already. When social media became tied to your identity like Facebook, people had to start patrolling what they say. And so they come to anonymous places to let out all the depraved shit they had to hold back. Along with what you said it’s why imageboards are just hard to use now u less you can find the small islands of discourse like this thread or other imageboards that kiwifarms and the other normalfags haven’t gotten to yet.
>>253586
If you think discussion worth having involves niche Japanese cartoons you're part of the problem. One of the things the older internet did was realizing anime isn't this DEEP CULTURE and it's just entertainment. Nothing special about it, not something you build a life style around and not part of your identity. If you liked it then cool, if you didn't then cool. The rise of anime/gaming/twitch-lifers is part of the reason the internet is unusable now. No one can just enjoy something and move on with their lives, they have to make it their identity. I am an ANIME FAN who LIKES GAMING and INSTANT NOODLES is now part of the landscape when previously that sort of dumb persona would have got you mercilessly bullied for being so retarded.
You are not the media you consume. You are not your fetish for giant eyed succubi with cat ears. Go outside, get a hobby, do more than consuming cartoons all day. Those interesting people everyone misses talking to weren't mass consumers. They were selective in what they invested their time in and they went onto the internet to further those goals. They didn't go to the internet to fill up 12 hours with mindless youtube videos, the latest TV shows and browsing endless pages of drivel complaining how unhappy everyone is. Those people are now on private discords doing the same shit they always did in the same way they always did. They realized the public internet is full of low brow people who build their entire lives around what media they consume and have nothing of value to say to them. It's like people obsessed with Fight club because it's anti-system are part of the consumer system and feeding it the whole time.
If you have nothing to your personality except to consume other's work and youtube videos on other people's work you will never find anything interesting. You have to further yourself so you can find topics with meaning to them. When you were younger you didn't just rely on Google, imageboards and youtube to find interesting stuff. You went out of your comfort zone to find the lesser known places like 4chan and ended up finding more interesting stuff. It's like you're bitching the radio always plays the same songs and refusing to go browse newgrounds audio for random new music artists. You're CHOOSING to be in the tamed and boring parts of the internet. Just entertaining enough to fill your time while offering you nothing back in return. A way to spin your wheels while you wait to die like everyone else. In the past the internet had time limits either through cost of connection or limited free time to use it (school, phone line usage or cost per time of day) so you had to be better at using the time you had. You couldn't browse wikis for hours or scroll through endless porn threads.
The internet got worse but you got lazy. Quality still exists if you dig for it, but google isn't a shovel and seasonal anime is always going to be a waste of your time.
In b4 mods get bitchy despite it being on topic and relevant.
If you think discussion worth having involves niche Japanese cartoons you're part of the problem. One of the things the older internet did was realizing anime isn't this DEEP CULTURE and it's just entertainment. Nothing special about it, not something you build a life style around and not part of your identity. If you liked it then cool, if you didn't then cool. The rise of anime/gaming/twitch-lifers is part of the reason the internet is unusable now. No one can just enjoy something and move on with their lives, they have to make it their identity. I am an ANIME FAN who LIKES GAMING and INSTANT NOODLES is now part of the landscape when previously that sort of dumb persona would have got you mercilessly bullied for being so retarded.
You are not the media you consume. You are not your fetish for giant eyed succubi with cat ears. Go outside, get a hobby, do more than consuming cartoons all day. Those interesting people everyone misses talking to weren't mass consumers. They were selective in what they invested their time in and they went onto the internet to further those goals. They didn't go to the internet to fill up 12 hours with mindless youtube videos, the latest TV shows and browsing endless pages of drivel complaining how unhappy everyone is. Those people are now on private discords doing the same shit they always did in the same way they always did. They realized the public internet is full of low brow people who build their entire lives around what media they consume and have nothing of value to say to them. It's like people obsessed with Fight club because it's anti-system are part of the consumer system and feeding it the whole time.
If you have nothing to your personality except to consume other's work and youtube videos on other people's work you will never find anything interesting. You have to further yourself so you can find topics with meaning to them. When you were younger you didn't just rely on Google, imageboards and youtube to find interesting stuff. You went out of your comfort zone to find the lesser known places like 4chan and ended up finding more interesting stuff. It's like you're bitching the radio always plays the same songs and refusing to go browse newgrounds audio for random new music artists. You're CHOOSING to be in the tamed and boring parts of the internet. Just entertaining enough to fill your time while offering you nothing back in return. A way to spin your wheels while you wait to die like everyone else. In the past the internet had time limits either through cost of connection or limited free time to use it (school, phone line usage or cost per time of day) so you had to be better at using the time you had. You couldn't browse wikis for hours or scroll through endless porn threads.
The internet got worse but you got lazy. Quality still exists if you dig for it, but google isn't a shovel and seasonal anime is always going to be a waste of your time.
In b4 mods get bitchy despite it being on topic and relevant.
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>>253599
>Those interesting people everyone misses talking to weren't mass consumers. They were selective in what they invested their time in and they went onto the internet to further those goals. They didn't go to the internet to fill up 12 hours with mindless youtube videos, the latest TV shows and browsing endless pages of drivel complaining how unhappy everyone is.
We've all seen the usenet screenshots about gaystation vs pretendo from 1997.
>Those interesting people everyone misses talking to weren't mass consumers. They were selective in what they invested their time in and they went onto the internet to further those goals. They didn't go to the internet to fill up 12 hours with mindless youtube videos, the latest TV shows and browsing endless pages of drivel complaining how unhappy everyone is.
We've all seen the usenet screenshots about gaystation vs pretendo from 1997.
>>253599
With these sort of sweeping statements I can't help but wonder the demographic this is aimed towards.
While I was younger, I was so hypnotized by the media available.
It's like my brain was shut off.
Then suddenly it turned on; I can no longer consume except in trivial manner, an hour at most.
Sometimes I can watch an old animation for a day, or follow airing shows, that's it.
So, who are these people?
There are a lot of a priori to these generalizations I think
For example, past the age of 22 (if you are able to jerk off with college), there's a whole class of people that numb themselves because of work.
What else are they to do? They've walked into a cycle that is rarely ever ejected because faint concepts of "security" (the beautiful lie) sold indefinitely
From my vantage point, it's like there's this conveyor belt for humanity at large (the bulk of internet users) where they're crushed into nothingness if they aren't cognizant enough (which is often the case for those who have the internet).
It is IMPRESSED upon them to consume, from 22 onward, if you are in a lifeless job situation, or not cognizant enough of it.
Who are these interesting people you talk about?
How is there even an ability to sustain an interesting lifestyle while conforming to the machine?
AM I GOING INSANE?
FURTHERMORE, those who are 'interesting' or not, I don't really understand how it matters due to the level of alienation the world is out there today.
There is such a gap between utility of relationships and the actual implementation, competing with the societal framework demands that is quite all consuming, from my experience
Are you all a bunch of college students?
Are we talking about phantom friends?
Do people consider their little small communities online their friendships now?
For example, I no longer have many friends. IF I do, we talk at most once every two months because of the gaping reality that is working or maintaining appearances in this machine.
Is this place even for wizards anymore?
I don't necessarily identify as a wizard, nor is there a formal term, but I just mean those who aren't in this grinding system.
Are you all at least NEETs just theory crafting, never holding a job or ever trying to integrate?
What the fuck is going on?
Who the hell am I talking to?
just GOD DAMNIT
Why is there this big fucking ELEPHANT in the room that seems to circumvent most of ANYTHING I ever discuss ever at all?
I tried explaining this to many people but they are just so bought into the system or cannot have the foresight nor respect the level of experience I've had, telling them, yes, this is how it is. It just doesn't register, but clearly something isn't registering for me.
HELLO? DO YOU ALL SEE THE WAGIE THREADS? THAT'S WHY I COME HERE. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?
With these sort of sweeping statements I can't help but wonder the demographic this is aimed towards.
While I was younger, I was so hypnotized by the media available.
It's like my brain was shut off.
Then suddenly it turned on; I can no longer consume except in trivial manner, an hour at most.
Sometimes I can watch an old animation for a day, or follow airing shows, that's it.
So, who are these people?
There are a lot of a priori to these generalizations I think
For example, past the age of 22 (if you are able to jerk off with college), there's a whole class of people that numb themselves because of work.
What else are they to do? They've walked into a cycle that is rarely ever ejected because faint concepts of "security" (the beautiful lie) sold indefinitely
From my vantage point, it's like there's this conveyor belt for humanity at large (the bulk of internet users) where they're crushed into nothingness if they aren't cognizant enough (which is often the case for those who have the internet).
It is IMPRESSED upon them to consume, from 22 onward, if you are in a lifeless job situation, or not cognizant enough of it.
Who are these interesting people you talk about?
How is there even an ability to sustain an interesting lifestyle while conforming to the machine?
AM I GOING INSANE?
FURTHERMORE, those who are 'interesting' or not, I don't really understand how it matters due to the level of alienation the world is out there today.
There is such a gap between utility of relationships and the actual implementation, competing with the societal framework demands that is quite all consuming, from my experience
Are you all a bunch of college students?
Are we talking about phantom friends?
Do people consider their little small communities online their friendships now?
For example, I no longer have many friends. IF I do, we talk at most once every two months because of the gaping reality that is working or maintaining appearances in this machine.
Is this place even for wizards anymore?
I don't necessarily identify as a wizard, nor is there a formal term, but I just mean those who aren't in this grinding system.
Are you all at least NEETs just theory crafting, never holding a job or ever trying to integrate?
What the fuck is going on?
Who the hell am I talking to?
just GOD DAMNIT
Why is there this big fucking ELEPHANT in the room that seems to circumvent most of ANYTHING I ever discuss ever at all?
I tried explaining this to many people but they are just so bought into the system or cannot have the foresight nor respect the level of experience I've had, telling them, yes, this is how it is. It just doesn't register, but clearly something isn't registering for me.
HELLO? DO YOU ALL SEE THE WAGIE THREADS? THAT'S WHY I COME HERE. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?
>>253599
This post reeks of improvebrah garbage. I'll keep doing nothing but watching anime and playing games if I'm content with doing that so piss off.
This post reeks of improvebrah garbage. I'll keep doing nothing but watching anime and playing games if I'm content with doing that so piss off.
Some here sound desperate to have things to feel nostalgic about.
>I tried explaining this to many people but they are just so bought into the system or cannot have the foresight nor respect the level of experience I've had
Yes you are very cool and superior to the sheeple, have a medal.
>I tried explaining this to many people but they are just so bought into the system or cannot have the foresight nor respect the level of experience I've had
Yes you are very cool and superior to the sheeple, have a medal.
>>253599
>One of the things the older internet did was realizing anime isn't this DEEP CULTURE and it's just entertainment.
Those are some odd-tinted glasses you got on. I mean, you make some interesting and possibly valid points but you're frame things in a very strange way.
>One of the things the older internet did was realizing anime isn't this DEEP CULTURE and it's just entertainment.
Those are some odd-tinted glasses you got on. I mean, you make some interesting and possibly valid points but you're frame things in a very strange way.
>>253640
Weeaboo was an insult and the XD I love anime people were bullied and made fun of. Penguin of doom copy pasta is a perfect example of weebs at the time and how people responded to them.
Being an obsessive loser for ANY topic was bullied. Trekkies weren't seen as some great sub culture, they were seen as losers with nothing better to do. Now every 'fanbase' is as bad if not worse than Trekkies. Look how Furries went from being hated and shit on to being in every community all the time (including Wizchan).
>>253641
Art is not culture. It's a by product of culture which anime is not. Anime is a commercial product designed to make maximum profits from whatever demographic it targets. Lately that target market is men age 18-30 feeling lonely and wanting waifus. Commercial 'art' is culture the same way McDonalds is food.
>>253607
Improvement garbage huh? Saying you won't find anything good if you don't actively seek it is improvement to you? It's basic common sense, but this thread is full of people complaining and being passive.
Weeaboo was an insult and the XD I love anime people were bullied and made fun of. Penguin of doom copy pasta is a perfect example of weebs at the time and how people responded to them.
Being an obsessive loser for ANY topic was bullied. Trekkies weren't seen as some great sub culture, they were seen as losers with nothing better to do. Now every 'fanbase' is as bad if not worse than Trekkies. Look how Furries went from being hated and shit on to being in every community all the time (including Wizchan).
>>253641
Art is not culture. It's a by product of culture which anime is not. Anime is a commercial product designed to make maximum profits from whatever demographic it targets. Lately that target market is men age 18-30 feeling lonely and wanting waifus. Commercial 'art' is culture the same way McDonalds is food.
>>253607
Improvement garbage huh? Saying you won't find anything good if you don't actively seek it is improvement to you? It's basic common sense, but this thread is full of people complaining and being passive.
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>>253655
Furries are still hated and shit on, you nigger. People just realized that nothing you can do will make them go away.
Furries are still hated and shit on, you nigger. People just realized that nothing you can do will make them go away.
>>253655
>I love anime people were bullied and made fun of.
>Being an obsessive loser for ANY topic was bullied. Trekkies weren't seen as some great sub culture, they were seen as losers with nothing better to do.
What are you doing on wizchan or any geek related forum for that matter?
I'm not really understanding your way of thinking. Geeks of yesteryear innately understood how uncool they were, but it was THEIR thing. I know geek is now mainstream and sterile but no millennial geek was under the delusion that they were cool.
>I love anime people were bullied and made fun of.
>Being an obsessive loser for ANY topic was bullied. Trekkies weren't seen as some great sub culture, they were seen as losers with nothing better to do.
What are you doing on wizchan or any geek related forum for that matter?
I'm not really understanding your way of thinking. Geeks of yesteryear innately understood how uncool they were, but it was THEIR thing. I know geek is now mainstream and sterile but no millennial geek was under the delusion that they were cool.
>>253659
Dude probably thinks Michelangelo painted the Sistine chapel because he just loved god so much
Dude probably thinks Michelangelo painted the Sistine chapel because he just loved god so much
>>253672
>He was literally commissioned to paint it, dumbass.
Have you created any piece of art in your life?
>He was literally commissioned to paint it, dumbass.
Have you created any piece of art in your life?
>>253658
The difference between oldschool geeks and modern 'geeks' is understanding their place in the social make up. I like some animes but I don't make every post on 4chan include a picture of my waifu. I don't go on Reddit and only talk about whatever seasonal shit is airing. I discuss it in private conversations with friends. As was stated before, the quality is there but it's not on public display any more. When I interact in public I hide my power level (remember that term?) instead of wearing a Crash Bandicoot t-shirt and a naruto headband to buy groceries.
>>253660
Being commissioned to paint a chapel is vastly different to a commercial marketer deciding which five anime tropes they want to market to with a show. Being paid to paint a grand master piece that will out live you and become a defining part of humanity is so far beyond commercial "art" it's not comparable. Comparing ANY anime to the great painters is just an insult to any one not retarded. Anime is a bastard globalist style forced on Japan through occupation and fetishisation of Western animation. It has nothing to do with Japan's (now dead and replaced) culture because America actively DESTROYED Japan's culture post WW2 and set up replace it with a bland, easy to consume globallist culture. Do you never question why anime appeals to so many westerners and now kpop does? It's not Asian, it's mystery meat.
The difference between oldschool geeks and modern 'geeks' is understanding their place in the social make up. I like some animes but I don't make every post on 4chan include a picture of my waifu. I don't go on Reddit and only talk about whatever seasonal shit is airing. I discuss it in private conversations with friends. As was stated before, the quality is there but it's not on public display any more. When I interact in public I hide my power level (remember that term?) instead of wearing a Crash Bandicoot t-shirt and a naruto headband to buy groceries.
>>253660
Being commissioned to paint a chapel is vastly different to a commercial marketer deciding which five anime tropes they want to market to with a show. Being paid to paint a grand master piece that will out live you and become a defining part of humanity is so far beyond commercial "art" it's not comparable. Comparing ANY anime to the great painters is just an insult to any one not retarded. Anime is a bastard globalist style forced on Japan through occupation and fetishisation of Western animation. It has nothing to do with Japan's (now dead and replaced) culture because America actively DESTROYED Japan's culture post WW2 and set up replace it with a bland, easy to consume globallist culture. Do you never question why anime appeals to so many westerners and now kpop does? It's not Asian, it's mystery meat.
>>253697
You know so little about anime it’s laughable. I’d like to know what exactly these anime you like and talk about with your friends (lol btw) are.
You know so little about anime it’s laughable. I’d like to know what exactly these anime you like and talk about with your friends (lol btw) are.
>>250138
I don't want to sound like a cranky old man but I just don't feel like I'm missing out anything. If it was really important shit I would've heard/read about it already.
If I speak with some normo and it mentions some new trendy thing all I'll do is ask what is it about or look it up, which most of the time is some trite shit.
I don't want to sound like a cranky old man but I just don't feel like I'm missing out anything. If it was really important shit I would've heard/read about it already.
If I speak with some normo and it mentions some new trendy thing all I'll do is ask what is it about or look it up, which most of the time is some trite shit.
>>253697
>When I interact in public I hide my power level (remember that term?) instead of wearing a Crash Bandicoot t-shirt and a naruto headband to buy groceries.
You're still not making sense. The new "geeks" do that because they're following trends and have the social capital to do that.
Old school actual geeks hid their power levels IF they had any semblance of social awareness because it would get their asses kicked. A lot of old school geeks were socially stunted people.
I really don't understand where you get this idea that geeks were more restrained in the past. I don't understand why you habour this disdain for your fellow geek.
>When I interact in public I hide my power level (remember that term?) instead of wearing a Crash Bandicoot t-shirt and a naruto headband to buy groceries.
You're still not making sense. The new "geeks" do that because they're following trends and have the social capital to do that.
Old school actual geeks hid their power levels IF they had any semblance of social awareness because it would get their asses kicked. A lot of old school geeks were socially stunted people.
I really don't understand where you get this idea that geeks were more restrained in the past. I don't understand why you habour this disdain for your fellow geek.
>>253705
>Disdain for your fellow geek
Proving my point.
Star wars fans hated Trekkies, Trekkies hated star wars fans. They didn't intermingle and drag both series into places they didn't belong.
I am not "my fellow geek". I am me, I have my family and my interests. I am not COMMERCIAL PRODUCT CONSUMER who is similar to OTHER COMMERCIAL PRODUCT CONSUMER and I have no loyalty to any of that bullshit.
Don't build an identity around media. Build it around your family and your skill set.
>Disdain for your fellow geek
Proving my point.
Star wars fans hated Trekkies, Trekkies hated star wars fans. They didn't intermingle and drag both series into places they didn't belong.
I am not "my fellow geek". I am me, I have my family and my interests. I am not COMMERCIAL PRODUCT CONSUMER who is similar to OTHER COMMERCIAL PRODUCT CONSUMER and I have no loyalty to any of that bullshit.
Don't build an identity around media. Build it around your family and your skill set.
>>253710
Fuck my family. Why should I care about them? And fuck identity bullshit. I am me is about the only thing agree with you about.
Fuck my family. Why should I care about them? And fuck identity bullshit. I am me is about the only thing agree with you about.
>>253710
>i am not a commercial product consumer
>i am a commercial product producer,
>with an economically viable skill set,
>conforming to the media depiction of family life during the cold war
Would destroying the mediaplex mean destroying the country at this point?
>i am not a commercial product consumer
>i am a commercial product producer,
>with an economically viable skill set,
>conforming to the media depiction of family life during the cold war
Would destroying the mediaplex mean destroying the country at this point?
>>253704
As we see more normies on the internet we see trends right in front of us, irl we'd have to be part of the crowd in order to pick up on them. Most of the things we see normies do are indeed temporary since they are just trends that will end some time and this includes media, sexuality, fashion and social things.
Young normies follow every trend and are able to quickly move on to the next thing, most of them don't have any actual focused interest in anything but instead just eat what gets put on their plates until the menus change and then they repeat thr same procedure. They listen to the same music but cant tell a song from an album if it wasn't popular, they play video games but only if everyone else is playing it, they try bdsm stuff because its trending even though theyre not even into it, they do dumb challenges just because it puts them in the center of attention and so forth, nothing of all this has any actual deep meaning and will just fade away like anything else until it's an outdated thing from the past.
Most people don't have a "solid" interest in anything and just do what everyone else is doing until its not popular again. They are not artists or developers, they are just consumer normies and that's why interests will constantly change.
As we see more normies on the internet we see trends right in front of us, irl we'd have to be part of the crowd in order to pick up on them. Most of the things we see normies do are indeed temporary since they are just trends that will end some time and this includes media, sexuality, fashion and social things.
Young normies follow every trend and are able to quickly move on to the next thing, most of them don't have any actual focused interest in anything but instead just eat what gets put on their plates until the menus change and then they repeat thr same procedure. They listen to the same music but cant tell a song from an album if it wasn't popular, they play video games but only if everyone else is playing it, they try bdsm stuff because its trending even though theyre not even into it, they do dumb challenges just because it puts them in the center of attention and so forth, nothing of all this has any actual deep meaning and will just fade away like anything else until it's an outdated thing from the past.
Most people don't have a "solid" interest in anything and just do what everyone else is doing until its not popular again. They are not artists or developers, they are just consumer normies and that's why interests will constantly change.
>>250139
fpbp
It just sucks because I spent 16 years online and now that I've realized what you just said the regular isolation that I'm used to has been dialed up another notch so now I've been finding other hobbies to occupy my time with while occasionally coming back here. Someone said it already, but even this website has gone to hell, it just feels like browsing another r9k at this point with all the zoomers complaining about trivial matters.
fpbp
It just sucks because I spent 16 years online and now that I've realized what you just said the regular isolation that I'm used to has been dialed up another notch so now I've been finding other hobbies to occupy my time with while occasionally coming back here. Someone said it already, but even this website has gone to hell, it just feels like browsing another r9k at this point with all the zoomers complaining about trivial matters.
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Completely and utterly. I've always felt out of place on normal social media outlets, but now it's everywhere. First 4ch, then 8ch, now wizchan… everywhere, anywhere online I just feel like a "boomer" because I wasn't reared in the technocracy like all the children skipping about now-a-days.
>>254020
I think this nails it. And it’s also the reason wizards feel disconnected. Normalfags will adapt and pick up whatever is trendy, wizards are much more averse to change, and will typically root themselves in whatever media/culture they picked up in their formative years. So in this way not only have many of us outgrown the internet and subcultures, but those have both left us behind as the trends shift and change.
I think this nails it. And it’s also the reason wizards feel disconnected. Normalfags will adapt and pick up whatever is trendy, wizards are much more averse to change, and will typically root themselves in whatever media/culture they picked up in their formative years. So in this way not only have many of us outgrown the internet and subcultures, but those have both left us behind as the trends shift and change.
Everyone else got married and has children. Unless there's an app they can check on public transport to work or while the kids are getting ready for bed, they don't go online.
>>254291
There was a time when the internet was mostly populated by weirdos and outcasts, those were the good times.
There was a time when the internet was mostly populated by weirdos and outcasts, those were the good times.
>>254293
Yeah, I remember AOL in the 90s. That shit was like the wild, wild west. The unbelievably slow www, but you had no basis for comparison at the time.
Yeah, I remember AOL in the 90s. That shit was like the wild, wild west. The unbelievably slow www, but you had no basis for comparison at the time.
>>250321
> or possibly even shit like twitter
There are a lot of people on twitter who use the "old poster from the wild west era of the internet" shtick like a cool accessory. Maybe they are but they all seem to set up this "cool kids lunch table' environment with their "inner circle" and have an army of orbiters trying to weasel their way into it. It's all very pathetic and depressing.
> or possibly even shit like twitter
There are a lot of people on twitter who use the "old poster from the wild west era of the internet" shtick like a cool accessory. Maybe they are but they all seem to set up this "cool kids lunch table' environment with their "inner circle" and have an army of orbiters trying to weasel their way into it. It's all very pathetic and depressing.
>>250190
>Was there some massive group suicide we are unaware of?
Think about all the internet personalities that are now dead that are still memes, Elliot Rodgers, Zyzz, Terry Davis, Dillon the Hacker, FPSRussia and those are off the top of my head. Okay they didn't all suduko but the internet zeitgeist we all live in were molded by characters who are now dead so it's frozen in time. In internet 2.0 you can't have characters become memes like that organically. Even in my personal life alot of people whose content I enjoyed are gone so their channels, albums, sites etc. are more like tributes than entertainment. The old media like musicians, filmstars etc. that defined our upbringing are also gone and since the internet replaced those industries noone really took over.
Alot of users of the old internet will have been boomers who passed on due to age or just life catching up with them.
With regards to suicide, the suicide rate has been increasing for years and outcasts will have been most susceptible to that. There are also other ways to check out like drug addiction or imprisonment, even getting married and having kids is a form of checking out for some reason since they can project their life onto others so are no longer contributing to the internet zeitgeist, basically they grew up whatever that may mean.
I think Zoomers get alot of shit but because the internet is so connected to daily life across the world some 20 year old kid from Ohio is lumped in with a 17 year old from Bangalore or Nicaragua on their phone so their experience is just drowned out on top of all the aspects of modern digital life. Before the internet was the exclusive club whereas now it is the norm.
>Was there some massive group suicide we are unaware of?
Think about all the internet personalities that are now dead that are still memes, Elliot Rodgers, Zyzz, Terry Davis, Dillon the Hacker, FPSRussia and those are off the top of my head. Okay they didn't all suduko but the internet zeitgeist we all live in were molded by characters who are now dead so it's frozen in time. In internet 2.0 you can't have characters become memes like that organically. Even in my personal life alot of people whose content I enjoyed are gone so their channels, albums, sites etc. are more like tributes than entertainment. The old media like musicians, filmstars etc. that defined our upbringing are also gone and since the internet replaced those industries noone really took over.
Alot of users of the old internet will have been boomers who passed on due to age or just life catching up with them.
With regards to suicide, the suicide rate has been increasing for years and outcasts will have been most susceptible to that. There are also other ways to check out like drug addiction or imprisonment, even getting married and having kids is a form of checking out for some reason since they can project their life onto others so are no longer contributing to the internet zeitgeist, basically they grew up whatever that may mean.
I think Zoomers get alot of shit but because the internet is so connected to daily life across the world some 20 year old kid from Ohio is lumped in with a 17 year old from Bangalore or Nicaragua on their phone so their experience is just drowned out on top of all the aspects of modern digital life. Before the internet was the exclusive club whereas now it is the norm.
>>255640
It's kind of crazy when I think about it. I most of the day on the internet listening to music made by dead people, watching movies starring dead people and then looking at meme pictures of dead people. Alot of posts and articles I read are probably by dead people. No wonder the internet feels weird now.
Maybe this is why Australian Aborigines find it hugely offensive if you show a picture or recording of a dead person.
It's kind of crazy when I think about it. I most of the day on the internet listening to music made by dead people, watching movies starring dead people and then looking at meme pictures of dead people. Alot of posts and articles I read are probably by dead people. No wonder the internet feels weird now.
Maybe this is why Australian Aborigines find it hugely offensive if you show a picture or recording of a dead person.
Yep I remember I tried going into some discord servers and there was so so much stupid shit there.Zoomers screaming poggers made me realize im getting to old for the internet.
>>255645
>Maybe this is why Australian Aborigines find it hugely offensive if you show a picture or recording of a dead person.
This makes intuitive sense to me, unless it’s specifically of your loved one and there’s some degree of ceremony to it. In a sense it’s a seance.
Some porn company as some weird form of content marketing used machine learning to digitally recolor/enhance a bunch of ancient black and white porn. Something about resurrecting the dead for something so cold and commercial came across as completely deranged to me, but when I said as much I got jumped on.
>Maybe this is why Australian Aborigines find it hugely offensive if you show a picture or recording of a dead person.
This makes intuitive sense to me, unless it’s specifically of your loved one and there’s some degree of ceremony to it. In a sense it’s a seance.
Some porn company as some weird form of content marketing used machine learning to digitally recolor/enhance a bunch of ancient black and white porn. Something about resurrecting the dead for something so cold and commercial came across as completely deranged to me, but when I said as much I got jumped on.
>>255640
I don't know the others, but FPSRussia is not death, he just got arrested because a shitty weed charge and all his shit confiscated. Now he has a podcast called PKA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OrX9lTn4YY
I don't know the others, but FPSRussia is not death, he just got arrested because a shitty weed charge and all his shit confiscated. Now he has a podcast called PKA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OrX9lTn4YY
>>255730
>nah not really
From what I've heard everyone on the Internet fucking hates zoomers, or makes fun of them in some way. I can't get it past my head though, why would they even have a reason? Is is because "le cringe blue hair"? It just comes off irrational and childish.
>nah not really
From what I've heard everyone on the Internet fucking hates zoomers, or makes fun of them in some way. I can't get it past my head though, why would they even have a reason? Is is because "le cringe blue hair"? It just comes off irrational and childish.
>>255737
It's just oldfucks pretending they are any better than children, see boomer complaining about gen X and gen X complaining about millennials. This usually stems from a lack of insight or cognizance of their own past.
It's just oldfucks pretending they are any better than children, see boomer complaining about gen X and gen X complaining about millennials. This usually stems from a lack of insight or cognizance of their own past.
>>255738
Sounds more like 15 year olds larping as "old men" because they liked flash games when they were five year olds in 2010. Personally, I'm more fond of the word "wigger", since it accurately describes the typical "zoomer" you see in image macros
Sounds more like 15 year olds larping as "old men" because they liked flash games when they were five year olds in 2010. Personally, I'm more fond of the word "wigger", since it accurately describes the typical "zoomer" you see in image macros
>>255737
>the Internet fucking hates zoomers
The internet is mostly zoomers. I think a lot of them have realized how much their generation sucks and are trying to "get away" by doing the
>le wrong generation
shit that you see on old movie and music video comments on youtube.
>the Internet fucking hates zoomers
The internet is mostly zoomers. I think a lot of them have realized how much their generation sucks and are trying to "get away" by doing the
>le wrong generation
shit that you see on old movie and music video comments on youtube.
I came back after this place imploded, now it seems like it's crawling with underagefags and trannies. Sad to see another imageboard turn into /r9k/
>>254293
>weirdos
This is a fallacy. There were tons of normal guys online too. The weirdos and the normal people congregated it didn't matter what you were. That's a reason why so many people seemed to vanish. The normal dudes have had families and you know normal lives since then. They're all old now, kids call them boomers. They don't realize a subsection of this generation _are_ the OG internet.
It's a stupid romantization. FUcking dumbass kids believe it and use it as a badge of honor to try to pretend like they're OG world wide web users. Retards don't realize they're outing themselves as posers. Social categorization/division is a lame-wad modern invention. The early internet wasn't judgemental like that. Everyone and anyone could sign on and chill together. Like sending out a signal into outer space, hey who's out there who are you, and receiving responses from the vast unknown. And just having a chat. That's why it was so fucking great.
Dumbass kids are so far off the fucking mark it's obvious who does and doesn't know wtf they're talking about.
>weirdos
This is a fallacy. There were tons of normal guys online too. The weirdos and the normal people congregated it didn't matter what you were. That's a reason why so many people seemed to vanish. The normal dudes have had families and you know normal lives since then. They're all old now, kids call them boomers. They don't realize a subsection of this generation _are_ the OG internet.
It's a stupid romantization. FUcking dumbass kids believe it and use it as a badge of honor to try to pretend like they're OG world wide web users. Retards don't realize they're outing themselves as posers. Social categorization/division is a lame-wad modern invention. The early internet wasn't judgemental like that. Everyone and anyone could sign on and chill together. Like sending out a signal into outer space, hey who's out there who are you, and receiving responses from the vast unknown. And just having a chat. That's why it was so fucking great.
Dumbass kids are so far off the fucking mark it's obvious who does and doesn't know wtf they're talking about.
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>>255812
I’m 24 my man.
I’m 24 my man.
>>255834
I'm willing to bet reckless amounts of money that 95 % of this website is under 25
I'm willing to bet reckless amounts of money that 95 % of this website is under 25
>>255835
Betting the same but for the majority of posters also not being NEET or adjacent and not actually socially outcasts.
Betting the same but for the majority of posters also not being NEET or adjacent and not actually socially outcasts.
>>255838
>not being NEET
It's not against the rules to be a wage seeker.
A wizard cannot run on pure mana.
>not actually socially outcasts.
Unless you consider working as a social life. A wage seeker can work and be absolutely friendless (online or irl).
>not being NEET
It's not against the rules to be a wage seeker.
A wizard cannot run on pure mana.
>not actually socially outcasts.
Unless you consider working as a social life. A wage seeker can work and be absolutely friendless (online or irl).
There's not very many of us who are over 30 despite this being wizardchan. I guess most of them either fix their life's and leave this place behind or kill themselves.I feel like there isn't any place left on the internet for someone like me.Im 31 and feel out of touch with everyone online. I barely post here anymore.
>>255920
As I get closer to 30, I get increasingly suicidal, anxious and paranoid.
I feel vulnerable and helpless.
As I get closer to 30, I get increasingly suicidal, anxious and paranoid.
I feel vulnerable and helpless.
>>255921
Eventually you just stop caring and the anhedonia sets in if it's hasn't already.I pretty much feel nothing now.
Eventually you just stop caring and the anhedonia sets in if it's hasn't already.I pretty much feel nothing now.
>>255920
I'll be 36 by the end of this year. Imageboards is like everything else, there's only so much enjoyment you can have with it before you get tired and stop caring. If I had to guess, I think it's more common for people stop caring about ibs rather than they fixing their lives or killing themselves. Sure, there must be some of those, but having enough of ib trash is likely to be the most common case for people to quit. People my age who even know about ibs are rare in the first place, both my siblings don't know about it and they're around my age. They never mentioned anything about it to me either, which shows their friends and social circles don't know about it as well, or at least it's not something they care about.
>I feel like there isn't any place left on the internet for someone like me.
Yeah, a 30+ loner has very limited options, but I feel like it's not related to your age or the average age of people on ibs, but with your patience for nonsense and garbage wearing thin. Let's be honest, the internet is a pile of shit 99% of the time.
Your only way out is to have a hobby that keeps you busy. Talking crap online is not something that you'll enjoy forever. There's also the thing with all sorts of escapism breaking down and reality staring you right in the face in the shape of parents getting ill and dying, the realization of your own growing decrepitude, your ineptudes you will never be able to fix and just generally accepting your shitty life as it is. It's not that there isn't a place online for you wiz, it's just there isn't a place for you at all. That perpetual uncomfortableness is not in the place you're in, it's in you. It will be there whatever you go. Stop looking.
I'll be 36 by the end of this year. Imageboards is like everything else, there's only so much enjoyment you can have with it before you get tired and stop caring. If I had to guess, I think it's more common for people stop caring about ibs rather than they fixing their lives or killing themselves. Sure, there must be some of those, but having enough of ib trash is likely to be the most common case for people to quit. People my age who even know about ibs are rare in the first place, both my siblings don't know about it and they're around my age. They never mentioned anything about it to me either, which shows their friends and social circles don't know about it as well, or at least it's not something they care about.
>I feel like there isn't any place left on the internet for someone like me.
Yeah, a 30+ loner has very limited options, but I feel like it's not related to your age or the average age of people on ibs, but with your patience for nonsense and garbage wearing thin. Let's be honest, the internet is a pile of shit 99% of the time.
Your only way out is to have a hobby that keeps you busy. Talking crap online is not something that you'll enjoy forever. There's also the thing with all sorts of escapism breaking down and reality staring you right in the face in the shape of parents getting ill and dying, the realization of your own growing decrepitude, your ineptudes you will never be able to fix and just generally accepting your shitty life as it is. It's not that there isn't a place online for you wiz, it's just there isn't a place for you at all. That perpetual uncomfortableness is not in the place you're in, it's in you. It will be there whatever you go. Stop looking.
>>255920
If it can provide some comfort, I am a 28 yo apprentice. (3 years difference is not far apart).
>>255921
All i can do from an imageboard is to wish you good luck wizzie.
I am quite content tbh, i try to battle agaisnt the anhedonia as much as I can.
I used to personify anhedonia at some point and it fried some of my brain circuits, hopefully I got back to my religion and I trully find peace in it.
If it can provide some comfort, I am a 28 yo apprentice. (3 years difference is not far apart).
>>255921
All i can do from an imageboard is to wish you good luck wizzie.
I am quite content tbh, i try to battle agaisnt the anhedonia as much as I can.
I used to personify anhedonia at some point and it fried some of my brain circuits, hopefully I got back to my religion and I trully find peace in it.
>>255924
Pretty soon im going to have to find work or my ass is going to be homeless either way my life is going to change soon whether I want to or not. I have been a neet for a long time so im pretty worried.
Pretty soon im going to have to find work or my ass is going to be homeless either way my life is going to change soon whether I want to or not. I have been a neet for a long time so im pretty worried.
>>255848
>A wage seeker can work and be absolutely friendless (online or irl).
Thats me. I ascended one measly notch above NEET and nothing got better.
>A wage seeker can work and be absolutely friendless (online or irl).
Thats me. I ascended one measly notch above NEET and nothing got better.
>>255924
>It's not that there isn't a place online for you wiz, it's just there isn't a place for you at all. That perpetual uncomfortableness is not in the place you're in, it's in you. It will be there whatever you go. Stop looking.
just fucking ruthless. this is a realization i have slowly come to. i used to be an ib addict, now i barely spend any time on them. but i didn't replace them with anything. just am on my own now.
>It's not that there isn't a place online for you wiz, it's just there isn't a place for you at all. That perpetual uncomfortableness is not in the place you're in, it's in you. It will be there whatever you go. Stop looking.
just fucking ruthless. this is a realization i have slowly come to. i used to be an ib addict, now i barely spend any time on them. but i didn't replace them with anything. just am on my own now.
>>255924
I’m around a decade younger than you. Do you have any advice for me, wizard? I’m afraid. I’ve already been a NEET for many years. I’m just so tired.
I’m around a decade younger than you. Do you have any advice for me, wizard? I’m afraid. I’ve already been a NEET for many years. I’m just so tired.
>>255944
I hope you find something. If you already have a place to live and rent is not a concern, then you can pretty much live on minimum wage, specially if you can find work within walking distance. I wish you luck.
>>255976
Nowadays you just stare at the ceiling? Finding something to do can be hard but doing nothing is a lot harder, specially if you're a neet.
>>255977
Unfortunately no, sorry. I'm an empty person pretty much. I guess I can tell you how I survived this long though. For all my fuckups with school, employment and everything else, probably the only thing I did right was having a decent relationship with my parents and siblings. That's the only reason I didn't end up homeless or dead. Never burn any bridges when it comes to family, in the end they're the only ones that give a shit about you, or in the least they're the ones most likely to. Either that or be able to secure a source of income, but you know that already.
I hope you find something. If you already have a place to live and rent is not a concern, then you can pretty much live on minimum wage, specially if you can find work within walking distance. I wish you luck.
>>255976
Nowadays you just stare at the ceiling? Finding something to do can be hard but doing nothing is a lot harder, specially if you're a neet.
>>255977
Unfortunately no, sorry. I'm an empty person pretty much. I guess I can tell you how I survived this long though. For all my fuckups with school, employment and everything else, probably the only thing I did right was having a decent relationship with my parents and siblings. That's the only reason I didn't end up homeless or dead. Never burn any bridges when it comes to family, in the end they're the only ones that give a shit about you, or in the least they're the ones most likely to. Either that or be able to secure a source of income, but you know that already.
>>255979
It really is for the best to not burn bridges with your family if you don't have any work ethic. Even if you do have work ethic, it just makes your already shit life even more stressful. I have parents who have treated me like shit my whole life and would never help me out if I were to lose my job. Having zero safety net is not a fun realization to come to when you're in your 30s and your parents are halfway dead and blowing your inheritance that you'll never receive a dime of on stupid shit and refuse to help you ever.
It really is for the best to not burn bridges with your family if you don't have any work ethic. Even if you do have work ethic, it just makes your already shit life even more stressful. I have parents who have treated me like shit my whole life and would never help me out if I were to lose my job. Having zero safety net is not a fun realization to come to when you're in your 30s and your parents are halfway dead and blowing your inheritance that you'll never receive a dime of on stupid shit and refuse to help you ever.
>>256130
>halfway dead
My parents had me at older than typical age. I didn't clue in to the implications. Like distant parenting they are I never was aware of how old they were. I just figured I was like most other people whos parents are what like 25 years older than them give or take. Wasn't until my 30s I realized they were decrepit already. I guess I spent my whole life blinded by this never ending neverland. I'm pushing 40 now on borrowed time. They'll fall dead any day now. Shit.
I'm rambling but yeah family… My generation of relatives are quite large. I don't know. For me I think I've burned those bridges real good. What a waste. To me family is same as dealing with any stranger. It's hard. It takes that normie social stuff all the same. I don't do it well. I always piss people off without realizing it.
As kids we're so caught up friendships with random people. For better or worse family is tied to you by familial bonds. Circumstances inevitably cross your paths throughout life. Random friends come and go. They'll drop you just like that. And don't lie at least some of you have dropped people too. Such is the way.
>halfway dead
My parents had me at older than typical age. I didn't clue in to the implications. Like distant parenting they are I never was aware of how old they were. I just figured I was like most other people whos parents are what like 25 years older than them give or take. Wasn't until my 30s I realized they were decrepit already. I guess I spent my whole life blinded by this never ending neverland. I'm pushing 40 now on borrowed time. They'll fall dead any day now. Shit.
I'm rambling but yeah family… My generation of relatives are quite large. I don't know. For me I think I've burned those bridges real good. What a waste. To me family is same as dealing with any stranger. It's hard. It takes that normie social stuff all the same. I don't do it well. I always piss people off without realizing it.
As kids we're so caught up friendships with random people. For better or worse family is tied to you by familial bonds. Circumstances inevitably cross your paths throughout life. Random friends come and go. They'll drop you just like that. And don't lie at least some of you have dropped people too. Such is the way.
I've found it's close to impossible to have a conversation online anymore. Zoomers deserve almost every ounce of economical pain coming their way.
Every thread, every post they make, wherever they are whether it's on 4chan or instagram it's purely collecting views for the lowest effort possible.
Every thread, every post they make, wherever they are whether it's on 4chan or instagram it's purely collecting views for the lowest effort possible.
>>250138
>I am unsure if age is entirely a factor and it could be the isolation that causes this feeling of being out of touch because I have stumbled across older people talking on reddit getting along fine
I've been noticing the same thing and I'm sure the main reason for being out of touch is isolation and not age.
Most of these things change and evolve in a social setting and as long as we stay isolated we won't notice what's popular but we also won't be able to go along with the changes happening to how people communicate.
This is can be easily demonstrated online if you use social media daily for an extended period of time or go on public discord servers and look at how peole chat with each other for a couple weeks, you will see the subtle changes happening in peoples ways of communicating and you will also see how some trends have a way shorter lifespan than others. If you stay up to date on social media you will be more likely to pick up on these changes but as soon as you disconnect yourself again for a longer period of time you will notice how these things disappear from your radar completely and your social perception of things gets paused since it's missing the input.
Being isolated for a couple years feels indeed like living under a rock since not only communication evolves but also how people perceive things.
>I am unsure if age is entirely a factor and it could be the isolation that causes this feeling of being out of touch because I have stumbled across older people talking on reddit getting along fine
I've been noticing the same thing and I'm sure the main reason for being out of touch is isolation and not age.
Most of these things change and evolve in a social setting and as long as we stay isolated we won't notice what's popular but we also won't be able to go along with the changes happening to how people communicate.
This is can be easily demonstrated online if you use social media daily for an extended period of time or go on public discord servers and look at how peole chat with each other for a couple weeks, you will see the subtle changes happening in peoples ways of communicating and you will also see how some trends have a way shorter lifespan than others. If you stay up to date on social media you will be more likely to pick up on these changes but as soon as you disconnect yourself again for a longer period of time you will notice how these things disappear from your radar completely and your social perception of things gets paused since it's missing the input.
Being isolated for a couple years feels indeed like living under a rock since not only communication evolves but also how people perceive things.
>>256178
>Zoomers deserve almost every ounce of economical pain coming their way.
lol they're in the best job market in recent memory they just don't want to take shit jobs that are literally every where right now. Neither will be actually try to exact social or political change. They 're sitting on their ass meme-ing away for internet points.
The best time capitalize is when you're at the life phase the zoomers are in right now. Few generations are priviliged to live in an era when it's a seekers job market. This is literally what the predecssor generation missed out on and lamented endlessly.
Sure the economic conditions are bad right now but it's cyclical. When things cool down then then regular people will suddenly see themselves flush with wealth and spending cash again. Then the retards who done nothing but lay down and rot will find themselves left out. Find themselves realizing oh shit I should have just kept going rather than do nothing now I'm on the outside looking in.
For us aging retards, millennials are actually sitting on massive piles of untapped wealth. It will surface once the economic cycle becomes favorable again. The same thing happens with every generation. Yes, that includes the baby boomers. They went to periods of high costs of everything too. Periods of social and political strife. Generally shit times all around. The social media narratives ignore this because it doesn't fit hive mind world view of old people bad.
Millennials are swamped with debts right now but these things pay off in time. In confluence with their gradually built up wealth (yes millennial wealth exists inspite of what your reddits and tiktoks tell you). The gradually built up earning power. When good times come around again then it's like everybody is rolling. Except those who didn't keep on progessing of course. Those people are left out. Of course by nature they will blame the system or whatever. It's in our nature of the losers. Don't lie you guys know what I'm talking about deep down.
Nobody can tell the future but I really think Zoomers are especially in well timed spot to hit their prime years, I'm talking age 30s-40s, that's when your career, life, everything is in stride. A lot external factors have gotten really shit right now but that's when you buy low and sell high later. Stock market analogy because that's all the rage lately.
The zoomers with half a brain will do well for themselves just like every one of their like who came before them. The idiots among them will suffer. Time is a flat circle. You can slide this template over any period of history.
>Zoomers deserve almost every ounce of economical pain coming their way.
lol they're in the best job market in recent memory they just don't want to take shit jobs that are literally every where right now. Neither will be actually try to exact social or political change. They 're sitting on their ass meme-ing away for internet points.
The best time capitalize is when you're at the life phase the zoomers are in right now. Few generations are priviliged to live in an era when it's a seekers job market. This is literally what the predecssor generation missed out on and lamented endlessly.
Sure the economic conditions are bad right now but it's cyclical. When things cool down then then regular people will suddenly see themselves flush with wealth and spending cash again. Then the retards who done nothing but lay down and rot will find themselves left out. Find themselves realizing oh shit I should have just kept going rather than do nothing now I'm on the outside looking in.
For us aging retards, millennials are actually sitting on massive piles of untapped wealth. It will surface once the economic cycle becomes favorable again. The same thing happens with every generation. Yes, that includes the baby boomers. They went to periods of high costs of everything too. Periods of social and political strife. Generally shit times all around. The social media narratives ignore this because it doesn't fit hive mind world view of old people bad.
Millennials are swamped with debts right now but these things pay off in time. In confluence with their gradually built up wealth (yes millennial wealth exists inspite of what your reddits and tiktoks tell you). The gradually built up earning power. When good times come around again then it's like everybody is rolling. Except those who didn't keep on progessing of course. Those people are left out. Of course by nature they will blame the system or whatever. It's in our nature of the losers. Don't lie you guys know what I'm talking about deep down.
Nobody can tell the future but I really think Zoomers are especially in well timed spot to hit their prime years, I'm talking age 30s-40s, that's when your career, life, everything is in stride. A lot external factors have gotten really shit right now but that's when you buy low and sell high later. Stock market analogy because that's all the rage lately.
The zoomers with half a brain will do well for themselves just like every one of their like who came before them. The idiots among them will suffer. Time is a flat circle. You can slide this template over any period of history.
>>256263
>lol they're in the best job market in recent memory
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>they just don't want to take shit jobs that are literally every where right now.
You really want drive this thread off a cliff don't you?
>lol they're in the best job market in recent memory
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>they just don't want to take shit jobs that are literally every where right now.
You really want drive this thread off a cliff don't you?
>>255924
You kinda hit the nail on the head a bit there. Escapism isn't what it used to be. It's one thing when you're in your early 20's and the world is still mostly new to you. You can shut that out and engage in silly little arguments online with other faggots about video games, anime or what have you. But when you're pushing deep into your 30's and you suddenly notice your grandparents look on the verge of death if not dead already, your parents are looking awfully old and your hairline has receded to the back of your skull and you don't have as much energy as you used to it becomes hard. That's reality clawing its way back into your life. You realise that the internet left you behind and the things you were so used to are now cold, alien and foreign. Memes don't quite seem as funny anymore. The banal conversations seem less witty, if they ever were to begin with. It's all porn, porn and more porn and you don't have that kind of endless libido and "horny". You just wanna talk about a damned video game on a certain image board and you just get spammed with "tranny sjw shill anime_ass.jpg". I don't know if finding some mythical promised land would make it any better. Times change and we change and god damn is life fucking shitty.
You kinda hit the nail on the head a bit there. Escapism isn't what it used to be. It's one thing when you're in your early 20's and the world is still mostly new to you. You can shut that out and engage in silly little arguments online with other faggots about video games, anime or what have you. But when you're pushing deep into your 30's and you suddenly notice your grandparents look on the verge of death if not dead already, your parents are looking awfully old and your hairline has receded to the back of your skull and you don't have as much energy as you used to it becomes hard. That's reality clawing its way back into your life. You realise that the internet left you behind and the things you were so used to are now cold, alien and foreign. Memes don't quite seem as funny anymore. The banal conversations seem less witty, if they ever were to begin with. It's all porn, porn and more porn and you don't have that kind of endless libido and "horny". You just wanna talk about a damned video game on a certain image board and you just get spammed with "tranny sjw shill anime_ass.jpg". I don't know if finding some mythical promised land would make it any better. Times change and we change and god damn is life fucking shitty.
>>256688
I resonate with your post. When you’re young imageboards seem cool and everyone acts so “above it all” and enlightened. But then you spend more time and realize they’re all just talking out of their ass. Theirs not enlightened just self important. The memes stop being funny, and even the porn stops being attractive as you just step back and realize what a cesspool it all is. And then just like that these people you thought you had kinship or a community with seem utterly alien to you, and you’re left with nothing. And other website just don’t cut it because they’re aping the imageboards you want to quit, and the discussion is curated and moderated so that you rarely feel any connection with the person on the other side of the screen. You realize that you’re just screaming into the void and no one is listening.
I resonate with your post. When you’re young imageboards seem cool and everyone acts so “above it all” and enlightened. But then you spend more time and realize they’re all just talking out of their ass. Theirs not enlightened just self important. The memes stop being funny, and even the porn stops being attractive as you just step back and realize what a cesspool it all is. And then just like that these people you thought you had kinship or a community with seem utterly alien to you, and you’re left with nothing. And other website just don’t cut it because they’re aping the imageboards you want to quit, and the discussion is curated and moderated so that you rarely feel any connection with the person on the other side of the screen. You realize that you’re just screaming into the void and no one is listening.
>>256688
>You just wanna talk about a damned video game on a certain image board and you just get spammed with "tranny sjw shill anime_ass.jpg".
I mean, things DID change. We might have changed but things did definitely change in terms of being able to have a damn conversation on the internet.
>You just wanna talk about a damned video game on a certain image board and you just get spammed with "tranny sjw shill anime_ass.jpg".
I mean, things DID change. We might have changed but things did definitely change in terms of being able to have a damn conversation on the internet.
>>256709
I don't know what to blame there. I'm not sure if it's as simple as fuck Gen Z for ruining everything but I certainly do feel the influx of newfags onto the chans, specifically 4chan, around the time of 2015-16 certainly didn't help. You have one of the biggest and memed elections in recent history in combination with a whole new generation swarming the net and 4chan becoming this cool and edgy beacon of memery to them. Culture gets evaporated overnight and replaced with something infinitely worse.
I don't know what to blame there. I'm not sure if it's as simple as fuck Gen Z for ruining everything but I certainly do feel the influx of newfags onto the chans, specifically 4chan, around the time of 2015-16 certainly didn't help. You have one of the biggest and memed elections in recent history in combination with a whole new generation swarming the net and 4chan becoming this cool and edgy beacon of memery to them. Culture gets evaporated overnight and replaced with something infinitely worse.
>>256710
>I'm not sure if it's as simple as fuck Gen Z for ruining everything
There's a whole host of reasons, many bigger than Gen Z themselves, but zoomers are so brain dead and so unable to function outside of the current trends that I'm ok with just blaming them entirely.
>I'm not sure if it's as simple as fuck Gen Z for ruining everything
There's a whole host of reasons, many bigger than Gen Z themselves, but zoomers are so brain dead and so unable to function outside of the current trends that I'm ok with just blaming them entirely.
>>256716
>but zoomers are so brain dead and so unable to function outside of the current trends that I'm ok with just blaming them entirely
Zoomers are indeed a product of the algorithms programmed to keep people in constant entertainment loops. Trends work way faster with the evolving algorithms and it seems like zoomers are entirely controlled by whatever content it picks out for them, this affects every aspect of their life from their behaviour, moral values to the music they like.
I think gen Z people have a way harder time thinking independently because the algorithm is programmed to always provide them with something they like and keeps them occupied in a bubble.
This might be the early sign of the bad side effects that analytical data collecting and algorithms bring with them. They are usually not programmed to actually make our life easier but to keep us consuming more effectively.
>but zoomers are so brain dead and so unable to function outside of the current trends that I'm ok with just blaming them entirely
Zoomers are indeed a product of the algorithms programmed to keep people in constant entertainment loops. Trends work way faster with the evolving algorithms and it seems like zoomers are entirely controlled by whatever content it picks out for them, this affects every aspect of their life from their behaviour, moral values to the music they like.
I think gen Z people have a way harder time thinking independently because the algorithm is programmed to always provide them with something they like and keeps them occupied in a bubble.
This might be the early sign of the bad side effects that analytical data collecting and algorithms bring with them. They are usually not programmed to actually make our life easier but to keep us consuming more effectively.
>>256719
I know they get a lot of shit and they are, admittedly, very fucking obnoxious but i do feel sorry for them. I don't think anyone here really enjoyed their teens/20's but imagine being in your "prime" now. What are they going to fondly look back on? Pandemics, complete disillusionment in our system and leaders and their brains being constantly assaulted by social media. You can see some of the stuff they attach themselves to and it's very obvious they want something "real" to connect with and it's always such a piss-poor substitute for any kind of real community/sub-culture.
I know they get a lot of shit and they are, admittedly, very fucking obnoxious but i do feel sorry for them. I don't think anyone here really enjoyed their teens/20's but imagine being in your "prime" now. What are they going to fondly look back on? Pandemics, complete disillusionment in our system and leaders and their brains being constantly assaulted by social media. You can see some of the stuff they attach themselves to and it's very obvious they want something "real" to connect with and it's always such a piss-poor substitute for any kind of real community/sub-culture.
>>256728
Not this ignorant attitude again, that young people today have it the worst or they are worse than previous generations. People were going on and on about how they live in the last days since like forever and how everything is corrupt or degenerate nowadays compared to…when exactly? Implying things were ever different.
Not this ignorant attitude again, that young people today have it the worst or they are worse than previous generations. People were going on and on about how they live in the last days since like forever and how everything is corrupt or degenerate nowadays compared to…when exactly? Implying things were ever different.
>>256728
>You can see some of the stuff they attach themselves to and it's very obvious they want something "real" to connect with and it's always such a piss-poor substitute for any kind of real community/sub-culture.
Again, there are many reason for this, many bigger than Gen Z themselves but again fuck them. I mean, "cottagecore"? They want something real to connect and still only manage surface level commitment.
>>256730
>nothing's changed
Glad you think so.
>You can see some of the stuff they attach themselves to and it's very obvious they want something "real" to connect with and it's always such a piss-poor substitute for any kind of real community/sub-culture.
Again, there are many reason for this, many bigger than Gen Z themselves but again fuck them. I mean, "cottagecore"? They want something real to connect and still only manage surface level commitment.
>>256730
>nothing's changed
Glad you think so.
>>250138
I feel like what i desire in society can't be found it's all superficial bullshit people don't care for connections with meaning & integrity. I value loyalty and honesty above all else i always give it but never receive it. I just can't live in this society anymore
I feel like what i desire in society can't be found it's all superficial bullshit people don't care for connections with meaning & integrity. I value loyalty and honesty above all else i always give it but never receive it. I just can't live in this society anymore
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>>250350
>>250427
This video has always made me piss myself. The idea that people online I've talked to being bots or just the simple fact that half of all conversations I've read online could be bots is freaky. This video was made 5 years ago so there's no telling just how much more advanced these bots have become. The idea that bots can be so advanced to the point where they can replicate natural responses to posts is more scary to me than any horror movies I've ever seen. Its like being told you "every other living person is an actual demon. You can't tell if they're a demon or not but they are in fact a demon. So next time you talk to someone remember that they could be a demon". The empty internet theory is scarier than any other horror concept just due to the simple fact that you and I could very well be living in it.
>>250427
This video has always made me piss myself. The idea that people online I've talked to being bots or just the simple fact that half of all conversations I've read online could be bots is freaky. This video was made 5 years ago so there's no telling just how much more advanced these bots have become. The idea that bots can be so advanced to the point where they can replicate natural responses to posts is more scary to me than any horror movies I've ever seen. Its like being told you "every other living person is an actual demon. You can't tell if they're a demon or not but they are in fact a demon. So next time you talk to someone remember that they could be a demon". The empty internet theory is scarier than any other horror concept just due to the simple fact that you and I could very well be living in it.
>>258349
…I was about to do post an IP scraper here for fun's sake and…blasze, whatstheirip, etc. have all been taken down.
…I was about to do post an IP scraper here for fun's sake and…blasze, whatstheirip, etc. have all been taken down.
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>>258349
What's the difference? If the text is indistinguishable, what does it matter if you're talking to a robot online? It won't have any impact on you in real life.
What's the difference? If the text is indistinguishable, what does it matter if you're talking to a robot online? It won't have any impact on you in real life.
>>258358
Its just freaky. I mean I don't see you going and talking to one of those AI chatbots when you want to talk to someone.
Its just freaky. I mean I don't see you going and talking to one of those AI chatbots when you want to talk to someone.
>>258358
Well the possibility being that what you thought were meaningful sentences constructed to convey information to you by a fellow sentient human versus you finding meaning that isn’t there from words pulled together by an algorithm that imitates a black box.
In short it would mean the world is different than you thought which is often a frightening prospect.
Well the possibility being that what you thought were meaningful sentences constructed to convey information to you by a fellow sentient human versus you finding meaning that isn’t there from words pulled together by an algorithm that imitates a black box.
In short it would mean the world is different than you thought which is often a frightening prospect.
>>258350
>dead internet theory
This idea came from wizchan (and /x/). I was on the thread itself. It's an interesting idea but stupid in a sniperfrog.exe kind of way.
>dead internet theory
This idea came from wizchan (and /x/). I was on the thread itself. It's an interesting idea but stupid in a sniperfrog.exe kind of way.
>>258362
It's basically just a more convoluted version of the "forced 50% winrate" thing you see people say about team based games.
Supposedly, Call of Duty games are bundled with an AI that periodically grants players imperceptible gameplay advantages/disadvantages to make their performance consistently inconsistent in the most addicting way possible.
It's basically just a more convoluted version of the "forced 50% winrate" thing you see people say about team based games.
Supposedly, Call of Duty games are bundled with an AI that periodically grants players imperceptible gameplay advantages/disadvantages to make their performance consistently inconsistent in the most addicting way possible.
>>258362
On COD:MW2, there's a file called spfg.exe, which is apparently an AI that "evens out" games i.e. makes you an FPS God in some matches and lets you get destroyed in other matches to make it competitive for even crap FPS players.
Someone put it into terms, that if this AI theory was true then IW created an incredibly sophisticated AI and solved a bunch of AI problems….for "balancing" a COD game.
On COD:MW2, there's a file called spfg.exe, which is apparently an AI that "evens out" games i.e. makes you an FPS God in some matches and lets you get destroyed in other matches to make it competitive for even crap FPS players.
Someone put it into terms, that if this AI theory was true then IW created an incredibly sophisticated AI and solved a bunch of AI problems….for "balancing" a COD game.
>>258349
Also:
>In case you missed it this has all been debunked. The IP address that he kept seeing was from Reddit's spam filter that was checking the links as soon as they were sent in a message. The original OP was also banned for attempted doxxing (turns out trying to track the IP address of users who disagree with you is against the site rules).
Also:
>In case you missed it this has all been debunked. The IP address that he kept seeing was from Reddit's spam filter that was checking the links as soon as they were sent in a message. The original OP was also banned for attempted doxxing (turns out trying to track the IP address of users who disagree with you is against the site rules).
>>258349
In any case, it is completely inevitable that anonymous, account-less services like imageboards will die. We're already halfway (or more) there - it's difficult to even post images on wizchan unless you let the admins know where you live and who you are by using a residential IP. Admins are too greedy to use spam/bots as an excuse even when the site is so small that manual moderation still works
In any case, it is completely inevitable that anonymous, account-less services like imageboards will die. We're already halfway (or more) there - it's difficult to even post images on wizchan unless you let the admins know where you live and who you are by using a residential IP. Admins are too greedy to use spam/bots as an excuse even when the site is so small that manual moderation still works
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>>250397
gen z aint smart at all, just look at tik tok
if they don't have sex is because they have this woke bullshit invading every country and every corner of the internet, they invented like a dozens of new sexual genders that they can't have sex with each other.
they get offended by everything so they decide to isolate themselves.
i think that every generation is stupid because the majority of people are fucking stupid, this is why we can't have good things, this is why we have these politicians, this is why the internet sucks right not, the internet was way better before it went mainstream
i don't see how you came up with the idea of zoomers being smarter than boomers, they're both equally shitheads but in their way, just think for yourself.
gen z aint smart at all, just look at tik tok
if they don't have sex is because they have this woke bullshit invading every country and every corner of the internet, they invented like a dozens of new sexual genders that they can't have sex with each other.
they get offended by everything so they decide to isolate themselves.
i think that every generation is stupid because the majority of people are fucking stupid, this is why we can't have good things, this is why we have these politicians, this is why the internet sucks right not, the internet was way better before it went mainstream
i don't see how you came up with the idea of zoomers being smarter than boomers, they're both equally shitheads but in their way, just think for yourself.
>>258539
>pic
eh. I doubt it. Knowledge of how to use a file system is necessary to even operate a computer. A good portion of zoomers own a pc so I see zero reason to believe that. I think this is just a clickbait article to get clicks from older folks so they can go "them zoomers with their hippity hop and their smart phones! back in my day we didn't have these "smart phones". Also the youngest zoomer is Ten, im not gonna expect a ten year old to know how to use pc.
>pic
eh. I doubt it. Knowledge of how to use a file system is necessary to even operate a computer. A good portion of zoomers own a pc so I see zero reason to believe that. I think this is just a clickbait article to get clicks from older folks so they can go "them zoomers with their hippity hop and their smart phones! back in my day we didn't have these "smart phones". Also the youngest zoomer is Ten, im not gonna expect a ten year old to know how to use pc.
>>258539
You know how I know you're wrong? because I've seen the same fucking picture shared around every /pol/ alt-chan shithole for the better part of this year. this fucking stupid opinion of "le younger generation BAD because I said so" should warrant an execution.
You know how I know you're wrong? because I've seen the same fucking picture shared around every /pol/ alt-chan shithole for the better part of this year. this fucking stupid opinion of "le younger generation BAD because I said so" should warrant an execution.
>>258557
>A good portion of zoomers own a pc
I'm an older zoomer (early 20s) so I grew up in the last years that the PC had relevance for young people. Younger zoomers and even some people my own age do not use computers outside of school/work nowadays. They only use their smartphones and even then, just a few standard apps like TikTok and Instagram.
If they do own a laptop or something, they do not move out of their comfort zones (their web browser and maybe Microsoft Word). A lot of people do have trouble with basic things like how file systems work or how to install an operating system. Obviously, this doesn't go for the entire generation but the vast majority is like this.
>A good portion of zoomers own a pc
I'm an older zoomer (early 20s) so I grew up in the last years that the PC had relevance for young people. Younger zoomers and even some people my own age do not use computers outside of school/work nowadays. They only use their smartphones and even then, just a few standard apps like TikTok and Instagram.
If they do own a laptop or something, they do not move out of their comfort zones (their web browser and maybe Microsoft Word). A lot of people do have trouble with basic things like how file systems work or how to install an operating system. Obviously, this doesn't go for the entire generation but the vast majority is like this.
>>258358
>If the text is indistinguishable
well, its not. if you talk to them long enough their posts start sounding janky, it probably has gotten better since i last talked to them, but they just cant smoothly integrate what youre saying into their response. probably something to do with you having a completely unique post and they just dont have enough training to respond properly, they do their best though and it does seem very convincing however.
>It won't have any impact on you in real life
except it does, do you think people would make an almost undetectable chatbot just for fun? no. millions of people on are having their opinions shaped by bots that are programmed to shape opinion, and it works better than any advertisement because you think its a real person. just think about that, you go into a thread and you think that every post is made by a well-intentioned human, so you read the interesting discussion. would you really think of the posts the same way if you knew they were made by bots meant to shape your opinion?
>If the text is indistinguishable
well, its not. if you talk to them long enough their posts start sounding janky, it probably has gotten better since i last talked to them, but they just cant smoothly integrate what youre saying into their response. probably something to do with you having a completely unique post and they just dont have enough training to respond properly, they do their best though and it does seem very convincing however.
>It won't have any impact on you in real life
except it does, do you think people would make an almost undetectable chatbot just for fun? no. millions of people on are having their opinions shaped by bots that are programmed to shape opinion, and it works better than any advertisement because you think its a real person. just think about that, you go into a thread and you think that every post is made by a well-intentioned human, so you read the interesting discussion. would you really think of the posts the same way if you knew they were made by bots meant to shape your opinion?
>>258568
I know you're lying out of your teeth. A Gaming on pc is huge with zoomers even the younger ones. Sure consoles users are still in the majority but its a 60/40 spilt. If someone owns a laptop or pc they KNOW how to use a file system.
> lot of people do have trouble with basic things like how file systems work or how to install an operating system. Obviously, this doesn't go for the entire generation but the vast majority is like this.
installing an operating system? Ok sure I can see people not knowing how to install an OS but not being able to use a file system completely fucks any usage of a pc. Not being able to find your files messes up even doing school work and paperwork. Also zoomers were forced to use pcs/laptops during the pandemic for online schooling. So it just makes zero sense to assume that zoomers are completely retarded when it comes to using computers.
I know you're lying out of your teeth. A Gaming on pc is huge with zoomers even the younger ones. Sure consoles users are still in the majority but its a 60/40 spilt. If someone owns a laptop or pc they KNOW how to use a file system.
> lot of people do have trouble with basic things like how file systems work or how to install an operating system. Obviously, this doesn't go for the entire generation but the vast majority is like this.
installing an operating system? Ok sure I can see people not knowing how to install an OS but not being able to use a file system completely fucks any usage of a pc. Not being able to find your files messes up even doing school work and paperwork. Also zoomers were forced to use pcs/laptops during the pandemic for online schooling. So it just makes zero sense to assume that zoomers are completely retarded when it comes to using computers.
>>250427
>>258349
We know now how this system could work. It's the GPT class of natural language bots.
It also explains why, as the OP of this chain said, things seemed to accelerate since about circa 2018. That' when the state of the art of machine learning reached a scary level.
The creators of this system in particular were concerned about malicious use and tried to safeguard it but Pandora's Box is open. There are already been derivative works based on it.
We know reddit for example admitted to botting their platform in the early days. This was 15 years ago.
> Social websites require a little bit of magic to work - spez
Imagine what they are doing now with high sophisticated machine learning systems.
>>258349
We know now how this system could work. It's the GPT class of natural language bots.
It also explains why, as the OP of this chain said, things seemed to accelerate since about circa 2018. That' when the state of the art of machine learning reached a scary level.
The creators of this system in particular were concerned about malicious use and tried to safeguard it but Pandora's Box is open. There are already been derivative works based on it.
We know reddit for example admitted to botting their platform in the early days. This was 15 years ago.
> Social websites require a little bit of magic to work - spez
Imagine what they are doing now with high sophisticated machine learning systems.
>>258606
>tried to safeguard it
To go into this a bit more tangible. The system requires expensive GPU compute. So it's of reach for the average person to use their gaming rig no matter how expensive and throwing a bunch of data at it to train and run a system themselves. If you're some techbro with 100s of millions of VC money to piss around it's easy.
Tech bros have the means to access massive compute systems. They have access to endless amounts of real human data. If you're the reddit admin you know which accounts are your bots and which aren't. You probably know which are third party botnets too. You have the entire database at your finger tips. You can train the bot on the database of real human content. Genuine quality datasets. And there you have it. Whatever fake army you want to do your bidding.
You want to grief someone you can train the algo with adversarial opinions of your victim. Gaslight the ever loving shit out of him until he an heros.
You can to make millions of dollars on the stock market. You run stooge accounts to pump xyz company making it look like organic interest. I 100% believe they are doing this with cryptocoins btw.
Let's say the monthly bottom line numbers are looking suspect and investors/advertisers are becoming upset with the poor site metrics. You can point a bot army at whatever pop culture trend is demanded of them. Push whatever normie fad they need to sell this quarter. Next thing you know the latest funko pop sales are through the roof. The board room is happy.
Ironically we are the instrument of our own demise. Every post we make, every video view, every scroll, tap, mouse click. It's all logged and pumped into the system of our own oppression.
The cyberpunk dystopia is now.
>tried to safeguard it
To go into this a bit more tangible. The system requires expensive GPU compute. So it's of reach for the average person to use their gaming rig no matter how expensive and throwing a bunch of data at it to train and run a system themselves. If you're some techbro with 100s of millions of VC money to piss around it's easy.
Tech bros have the means to access massive compute systems. They have access to endless amounts of real human data. If you're the reddit admin you know which accounts are your bots and which aren't. You probably know which are third party botnets too. You have the entire database at your finger tips. You can train the bot on the database of real human content. Genuine quality datasets. And there you have it. Whatever fake army you want to do your bidding.
You want to grief someone you can train the algo with adversarial opinions of your victim. Gaslight the ever loving shit out of him until he an heros.
You can to make millions of dollars on the stock market. You run stooge accounts to pump xyz company making it look like organic interest. I 100% believe they are doing this with cryptocoins btw.
Let's say the monthly bottom line numbers are looking suspect and investors/advertisers are becoming upset with the poor site metrics. You can point a bot army at whatever pop culture trend is demanded of them. Push whatever normie fad they need to sell this quarter. Next thing you know the latest funko pop sales are through the roof. The board room is happy.
Ironically we are the instrument of our own demise. Every post we make, every video view, every scroll, tap, mouse click. It's all logged and pumped into the system of our own oppression.
The cyberpunk dystopia is now.
>>258604
Not every zoomer games though. A good portion come home and watch TikTok on their phones and netflix with their gf on the TV. With succubi the number with a personal computer is even lower, because they often don't game at all
t. lives with zoomers
Not every zoomer games though. A good portion come home and watch TikTok on their phones and netflix with their gf on the TV. With succubi the number with a personal computer is even lower, because they often don't game at all
t. lives with zoomers
oh gee, another thread about an anon who cant find a decent website or chatroom.
Just because you dont get around and hang out in the worst places doesnt mean the internet is shit. That's like going to Los Angeles and saying that America is shit based off your experience there. If your bookmarks folder, rss feeds, and network bouncers arent filled with good websites, blogs, and people to talk to, that's on you buddy.
The internet really is what you make it.
Just because you dont get around and hang out in the worst places doesnt mean the internet is shit. That's like going to Los Angeles and saying that America is shit based off your experience there. If your bookmarks folder, rss feeds, and network bouncers arent filled with good websites, blogs, and people to talk to, that's on you buddy.
The internet really is what you make it.
>>258684
It makes them mad that they missed out.
>>258606
>since 2018
While I don't doubt the development of bots to astroturf the internet, I don't think you fully understand the shallowness of the average normalfag on the internet, repeating the same tired shit is also what they do IRL. Right now it's probably easier and cheaper to astroturf the internet with 3rd worlders for a few bucks.
It makes them mad that they missed out.
>>258606
>since 2018
While I don't doubt the development of bots to astroturf the internet, I don't think you fully understand the shallowness of the average normalfag on the internet, repeating the same tired shit is also what they do IRL. Right now it's probably easier and cheaper to astroturf the internet with 3rd worlders for a few bucks.
>>258687
>>258684
been like what, exactly? I really can't tell what you're trying to say here.
>>258686
what am I missing out on? My experience on the internet has been fine. I have my mailing lists, newsgroups (the active ones), chatrooms, a webring I frequently browse, and dedicated circle of irc friends that run a website together and interact with other networks and people. I go to youtube to look up specific things from time to time, and I go to normie-level imageboards like this, 4channel, and lainchan to hang out when I get bored. If you don't have a lot of experience with being on a computer (RoT: If XP/OSX10 was you're first computer experience, then that's long enough), I dont know what to say about that except find better websites.
>>258687
that's the spice
>>258684
been like what, exactly? I really can't tell what you're trying to say here.
>>258686
what am I missing out on? My experience on the internet has been fine. I have my mailing lists, newsgroups (the active ones), chatrooms, a webring I frequently browse, and dedicated circle of irc friends that run a website together and interact with other networks and people. I go to youtube to look up specific things from time to time, and I go to normie-level imageboards like this, 4channel, and lainchan to hang out when I get bored. If you don't have a lot of experience with being on a computer (RoT: If XP/OSX10 was you're first computer experience, then that's long enough), I dont know what to say about that except find better websites.
>>258687
that's the spice
>>258693
Of course this place is normalfag space because people like you visit here. Please leave and go play with your friends
Of course this place is normalfag space because people like you visit here. Please leave and go play with your friends
All I know is 4chan is completely full of normalfaggots now giving the most normlfag advice. I never see 25+ or 30+ generals now. All of the outcasts were pushed out by normalfags. This feels like the only site left I can relate to
>>258777
> I never see 25+ or 30+ generals now.
They now only appear at moments like the end of the year on /r9k/ or when luck smiles on a 30+ thread.
Maybe I'm using Baudrillard wrong but newfags (and modern geeks) these days are like the 2nd phase of an image:
>it masks and denatures a profound reality
or is it the 3rd?:
>it masks the absence of a profound reality
Either way these niggers aren't made the same way oldfags (and old geeks) were, they're a bastardization of what anons used to be.
> I never see 25+ or 30+ generals now.
They now only appear at moments like the end of the year on /r9k/ or when luck smiles on a 30+ thread.
Maybe I'm using Baudrillard wrong but newfags (and modern geeks) these days are like the 2nd phase of an image:
>it masks and denatures a profound reality
or is it the 3rd?:
>it masks the absence of a profound reality
Either way these niggers aren't made the same way oldfags (and old geeks) were, they're a bastardization of what anons used to be.
>>258777
The amount of fake tough guys on 4chan now is insane. If the navy seals pasta came out now people would say it's 'based' instead of just laughing at it.
The amount of fake tough guys on 4chan now is insane. If the navy seals pasta came out now people would say it's 'based' instead of just laughing at it.
>>258777
>All of the outcasts were pushed out by normalfags.
I genuinely don't understand where they could have possibly went.
>All of the outcasts were pushed out by normalfags.
I genuinely don't understand where they could have possibly went.
>>258801
Im 31 and burnt out on message boards there's nothing new to disguss anymore. I occasionally lurk and post here every 3 months but thats it.Im getting too old for these places.
Im 31 and burnt out on message boards there's nothing new to disguss anymore. I occasionally lurk and post here every 3 months but thats it.Im getting too old for these places.
>>258894
>I'm getting too old for these places.
Thing is though, I remember a lot of older users on forums. Hell there were a lot of 30-somethings on SA forums. And right now it's probably mostly 40 and 50-somethings since almost no one new comes to SA anymore.
>I'm getting too old for these places.
Thing is though, I remember a lot of older users on forums. Hell there were a lot of 30-somethings on SA forums. And right now it's probably mostly 40 and 50-somethings since almost no one new comes to SA anymore.
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