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I think I've come to the end of the line. I'm 27 years old, almost 28 and I'm currently a college student. I never wanted to attend college, but my parents wouldn't give me any money unless I did. I tried to get a career out of high school but ended up working a bunch of dead end jobs that didn't pay enough to live and made me want to kill myself.
At the same time, I also went to community college to make my parents happy, but didn't have any plans and failed a bunch of classes not attending or doing any work. After my latest career failure, I decided to finish up at community college and transfer to a state university. The reason for this was not that I wanted to attend college, but that I wanted to get away from my parents house, which was a very bad environment as they constantly fight and scream at each other. I couldn't pay for my own housing and have no friends, but knew they would pay for my housing if I went to college.
This was 1 year ago, and the classes were all online because of covid, so I didn't even get to leave my parents home. However, a few months ago they paid for me to have an apartment, since things are dying down and classes might be in person next semester (none of my are, but I didn't tell them that). The classes are a complete waste of time, and I have a 3.9GPA with barely any effort, but I enjoy living alone in my apartment and not working a wageslave job.
My plan was to graduate in the spring, however I realized today that because of my poor planning there are tons of graduation requirements that I haven't filled. There is no way that I'm going to graduate. It would take probably another full year of classes, things I am not interested at all, bullshit classes like racial justice studies and what not. I have no significant work history just a bunch of shitty jobs, no degree, no social connections, and no real special skills that apply to careers.
The conclusion seems to be that I am backed into a corner. In the spring, the money my parents have given me for my apartment will run out, and I will not graduate college with a degree or any career. No job I am qualified for will pay for my living expenses. Unless I somehow find a pot of gold under a rainbow somewhere, I have nowhere to go, except possibly back to my parents who I would prefer to never see again. I think I will have to commit suicide or possibly join all the homeless people who live in the streets, or go to prison. I honestly don't see any way out of my situation. I don't even consider myself to be particularly depressed, but simply my life is fucked in such a way that I would rather kill myself than go forward with any other options.
At the same time, I also went to community college to make my parents happy, but didn't have any plans and failed a bunch of classes not attending or doing any work. After my latest career failure, I decided to finish up at community college and transfer to a state university. The reason for this was not that I wanted to attend college, but that I wanted to get away from my parents house, which was a very bad environment as they constantly fight and scream at each other. I couldn't pay for my own housing and have no friends, but knew they would pay for my housing if I went to college.
This was 1 year ago, and the classes were all online because of covid, so I didn't even get to leave my parents home. However, a few months ago they paid for me to have an apartment, since things are dying down and classes might be in person next semester (none of my are, but I didn't tell them that). The classes are a complete waste of time, and I have a 3.9GPA with barely any effort, but I enjoy living alone in my apartment and not working a wageslave job.
My plan was to graduate in the spring, however I realized today that because of my poor planning there are tons of graduation requirements that I haven't filled. There is no way that I'm going to graduate. It would take probably another full year of classes, things I am not interested at all, bullshit classes like racial justice studies and what not. I have no significant work history just a bunch of shitty jobs, no degree, no social connections, and no real special skills that apply to careers.
The conclusion seems to be that I am backed into a corner. In the spring, the money my parents have given me for my apartment will run out, and I will not graduate college with a degree or any career. No job I am qualified for will pay for my living expenses. Unless I somehow find a pot of gold under a rainbow somewhere, I have nowhere to go, except possibly back to my parents who I would prefer to never see again. I think I will have to commit suicide or possibly join all the homeless people who live in the streets, or go to prison. I honestly don't see any way out of my situation. I don't even consider myself to be particularly depressed, but simply my life is fucked in such a way that I would rather kill myself than go forward with any other options.
Sorry anon, that sounds bad.
I don't know what you're studying or if it really would help anything if you graduated. I suppose you can only try to manipulate your parents into giving you more money, and try out some sort of wageslave jobs.
>No job I am qualified for will pay for my living expenses.
I doubt this
Suicide is always an option and you can take comfort in that. See what happens and end it if it becomes unbearable
I don't know what you're studying or if it really would help anything if you graduated. I suppose you can only try to manipulate your parents into giving you more money, and try out some sort of wageslave jobs.
>No job I am qualified for will pay for my living expenses.
I doubt this
Suicide is always an option and you can take comfort in that. See what happens and end it if it becomes unbearable
>>251315
The reason I can't pay living expenses with a normal job is because I was born in the SF Bay area, where we have the highest cost of living and most inequality. Tech companies have created very high paying jobs, but the wages for normal non-tech or professional/managerial jobs is still the same as anywhere else. So many ordinary people are unable to find housing. The jobs I've had typically pay around 15-20/hr, which working full time is like $3k per month, less after taxes. Housing alone is like $1500 for a box in a slum or closer to $2000 for a nice studio, that's 50-70% of income just for housing. Also they are all really awful slave type jobs which are unhealthy mentally and physically, such as data entry, warehouse worker, or retail worker. There's no way I could live my entire life working a job like that without having a mental breakdown.
The reason I can't pay living expenses with a normal job is because I was born in the SF Bay area, where we have the highest cost of living and most inequality. Tech companies have created very high paying jobs, but the wages for normal non-tech or professional/managerial jobs is still the same as anywhere else. So many ordinary people are unable to find housing. The jobs I've had typically pay around 15-20/hr, which working full time is like $3k per month, less after taxes. Housing alone is like $1500 for a box in a slum or closer to $2000 for a nice studio, that's 50-70% of income just for housing. Also they are all really awful slave type jobs which are unhealthy mentally and physically, such as data entry, warehouse worker, or retail worker. There's no way I could live my entire life working a job like that without having a mental breakdown.
>>251317
You could move, it doesnt sound like you have anything keeping you there. Expand your job search options to other places
You could move, it doesnt sound like you have anything keeping you there. Expand your job search options to other places
You have to pass mandatory classes in race indoctrination shit to get your degree now? Fuck, this would has truly gone to hell
>>251321
I doubt it, no colleges I went to required that shit. Usually you have a large choice of classes, like you could choose between "racial justice studies" or roman history
I doubt it, no colleges I went to required that shit. Usually you have a large choice of classes, like you could choose between "racial justice studies" or roman history
The thing I learned after going on and off in college for the past 8 years is that you actually don't need to do much, just look at the gradebook and calculate what you need to do and what you dont need to do to get a 70% and pass the class, I've been in classes where I just complete some 30 minute assignment every 4-5 weeks to keep my grade passing. You dont even need to study with the online classes these days because you can just find every single thing on google. I just passed a college course last week that I havent look at in months lol, it's ridiculously easy
>>251317
The Bay Area is incredibly fucked up. I was wageslaving there as a code monkey a few years ago to make and save as much money as possible to move to a cheap place after and NEET forever. I paid 600 a month to sleep in a room with two pajeets sharing the room. The whole house was like that, an old 1960s suburban bungalow that had 10 or 12 pajeets living there. It was utterly filthy and I didn't want to touch any surface in that house, so I basically only used it as a place to store some things like my clothes, laptop and bike, and ate and showered in my company campus. I'm not brown but this was the cheapest housing I could possibly find, which wasn't around ghetto blacks/Hispanics. This living arrangement is apparently fairly common because many pajeets working in tech in America not only support themselves, but also need to send 70% of their income back to India to support their 1200 relatives. It was like a living hell but after saving as much as I possibly could for three years I had enough to move to a cheap place (where I am now), buy a house and I'm living off of my savings. If one day my investments get bogged and I need to go back to working, I'll probably take the exit bag route instead.
I got the sense that normgroid code monkeys had it pretty bad too, even if they made 200k a year it all got eaten up by their trying to keep up appearances, going on expensive trips, buying the latest consoomer technology (iPhone, Tesla, etc), renting a 5000/month "luxury apartment" or spending 2 million plus property taxes on a dilapidated post war shack so that their spawn would have a place to "put down roots" (as if anyone could really put their roots down in the hellscape that is the Bay Area).
The Bay Area is incredibly fucked up. I was wageslaving there as a code monkey a few years ago to make and save as much money as possible to move to a cheap place after and NEET forever. I paid 600 a month to sleep in a room with two pajeets sharing the room. The whole house was like that, an old 1960s suburban bungalow that had 10 or 12 pajeets living there. It was utterly filthy and I didn't want to touch any surface in that house, so I basically only used it as a place to store some things like my clothes, laptop and bike, and ate and showered in my company campus. I'm not brown but this was the cheapest housing I could possibly find, which wasn't around ghetto blacks/Hispanics. This living arrangement is apparently fairly common because many pajeets working in tech in America not only support themselves, but also need to send 70% of their income back to India to support their 1200 relatives. It was like a living hell but after saving as much as I possibly could for three years I had enough to move to a cheap place (where I am now), buy a house and I'm living off of my savings. If one day my investments get bogged and I need to go back to working, I'll probably take the exit bag route instead.
I got the sense that normgroid code monkeys had it pretty bad too, even if they made 200k a year it all got eaten up by their trying to keep up appearances, going on expensive trips, buying the latest consoomer technology (iPhone, Tesla, etc), renting a 5000/month "luxury apartment" or spending 2 million plus property taxes on a dilapidated post war shack so that their spawn would have a place to "put down roots" (as if anyone could really put their roots down in the hellscape that is the Bay Area).
>>251324
I spent a lot of time at university and even graded some courses. In my country at least, it depends entirely where you are and what you are studying. However it is known by all that USA grades are heavily inflated and and a top grade there is like a 60% at some developed countries
I spent a lot of time at university and even graded some courses. In my country at least, it depends entirely where you are and what you are studying. However it is known by all that USA grades are heavily inflated and and a top grade there is like a 60% at some developed countries
>>251321
>>251322
Not specifically that, but there are sections that require for example “US Government” and the choices of classes that are available to fill the requirement are things like “LatinX and US Government” or “Asian Americans and the Law”.
>>251319
I probably should move, although it’s a somewhat stressful process, as I’ve not lived anywhere else all my life and am not exactly the most functional person. I’ve always lived with my parents until a few months ago, and I don’t have any idea where I would go to or what kind of work I would do.
>>251324
The classes themselves are incredibly easy, but navigating the bureaucracy and trying to figure out all the requirements and things like that is what is difficult for me. I think it’s a product of how college degrees are a de facto requirement for any non retail or labor job now, so they need to make it possible for anyone who wants a degree to get one. Basically college in the US is a hugely overinflated scam.
>>251320
In some ways, I obviously am. I was able to spend long periods of my life supported by parents and only working part time or taking some college classes. But as a result I’ve grown to become basically a useless person who can’t function on his own at the level of a normal person. While I’m well off for now, the money to support this life is going to run out soon, and I will be struggling to survive. I also have some physical and mental health problems that make things more difficult. I realize that I’m to some extent a spoiled brat, but that doesn’t help me to figure out what to do in the future.
>>251322
Not specifically that, but there are sections that require for example “US Government” and the choices of classes that are available to fill the requirement are things like “LatinX and US Government” or “Asian Americans and the Law”.
>>251319
I probably should move, although it’s a somewhat stressful process, as I’ve not lived anywhere else all my life and am not exactly the most functional person. I’ve always lived with my parents until a few months ago, and I don’t have any idea where I would go to or what kind of work I would do.
>>251324
The classes themselves are incredibly easy, but navigating the bureaucracy and trying to figure out all the requirements and things like that is what is difficult for me. I think it’s a product of how college degrees are a de facto requirement for any non retail or labor job now, so they need to make it possible for anyone who wants a degree to get one. Basically college in the US is a hugely overinflated scam.
>>251320
In some ways, I obviously am. I was able to spend long periods of my life supported by parents and only working part time or taking some college classes. But as a result I’ve grown to become basically a useless person who can’t function on his own at the level of a normal person. While I’m well off for now, the money to support this life is going to run out soon, and I will be struggling to survive. I also have some physical and mental health problems that make things more difficult. I realize that I’m to some extent a spoiled brat, but that doesn’t help me to figure out what to do in the future.
>>251328
Go home save some more money.
Find some job you can stand more.
Move someplace else.
Thousands of things you can do…
Go home save some more money.
Find some job you can stand more.
Move someplace else.
Thousands of things you can do…
>>251328
>>251319
yeah really you need to move. Small towns have very low living expenses compared to SF of all places. You aren't in a corner you'll just need to make a change, and it'll probably be a good change for you. You say you're used to making 3k per month, I make 2k per month and have more than enough money. Most studios here in the midwest are $500 or less, $550-650 for 1br. If you really need it your parents would probably be willing to help you financially while you find an apartment and find a job you think would be bearable.
>>251319
yeah really you need to move. Small towns have very low living expenses compared to SF of all places. You aren't in a corner you'll just need to make a change, and it'll probably be a good change for you. You say you're used to making 3k per month, I make 2k per month and have more than enough money. Most studios here in the midwest are $500 or less, $550-650 for 1br. If you really need it your parents would probably be willing to help you financially while you find an apartment and find a job you think would be bearable.
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>>251328
Have you considered joining the military if you think you'd meet the requirements? It seems like a good way to escape from life and you get food, clothing, covered insurance etc… I'm younger but my life situation is building up in a very similar manner like yours and I've been debating whether if I should just join the navy and get away from this shitty life and my horrid bipolar single mother. I certainly don't want to serve for ZOG/globohomo but I don't see any other options.
Have you considered joining the military if you think you'd meet the requirements? It seems like a good way to escape from life and you get food, clothing, covered insurance etc… I'm younger but my life situation is building up in a very similar manner like yours and I've been debating whether if I should just join the navy and get away from this shitty life and my horrid bipolar single mother. I certainly don't want to serve for ZOG/globohomo but I don't see any other options.
>>251333
Joining the military means sacrificing any sort of free will you may have to the system. I'd rather be homeless.
Joining the military means sacrificing any sort of free will you may have to the system. I'd rather be homeless.
If I were you I'd move back in with my parents and learn the Rust programming language. Then get a job writing code for a blockchain startup. You'll have to prove you are worth hiring by having a few portfolio apps but it shouldn't be too complicated. There is honestly a lot of opportunity out there. The other thing I'd do if I were you is get a script for adderal. Tell your doctor you want to be evaluated for ADHD. They will probably give you a questionnaire to do and you just answer it based on your symptoms. Hyperactive or not… Then you'll get stimulants that can really help you be productive. Don't kill yourself. This is only a small failure in your young life.
>>251337
This is my first time on dep in a very long time. I'm giving advice based on my experience. I work in tech and know how to get hired. Tech is an industry and not a meme. If you know nothing about this industry keep your thoughts to yourself.
This is my first time on dep in a very long time. I'm giving advice based on my experience. I work in tech and know how to get hired. Tech is an industry and not a meme. If you know nothing about this industry keep your thoughts to yourself.
>>251336
>Don't kill yourself. This is only a small failure in your young life.
The older I get the more I wish that I did kill myself when younger before being frozen over with apathy and uncertainty.
>Don't kill yourself. This is only a small failure in your young life.
The older I get the more I wish that I did kill myself when younger before being frozen over with apathy and uncertainty.
>>251347
If you're willing to spend 4 years learning shit that may as well give you autism if you don't have it already and then another 4 or 5 years being a code monkey working with poojeets and Karens then maybe…maybe you will get a comfy position someday.
Oh I forgot… you're a social butterfly with plenty of "soft skills" right? Because you'll need to work in teams almost all the time and no one wants to work with a depressed weirdo freak.
If you're willing to spend 4 years learning shit that may as well give you autism if you don't have it already and then another 4 or 5 years being a code monkey working with poojeets and Karens then maybe…maybe you will get a comfy position someday.
Oh I forgot… you're a social butterfly with plenty of "soft skills" right? Because you'll need to work in teams almost all the time and no one wants to work with a depressed weirdo freak.
>>251352
T. Doesn't work in tech.
There's literally startups hiring every day. They aren't hiring for basic skills though and you will need to specialise in something like Rust, react, data science, or whatever. But this is something anyone can learn providing they pick up a book.
Your idea that people are going to reject you for being 'weird' are ludicrous. The entire tech industry is weird and filled with people who are outliers. This is where nerds end up. Nobody is going to give a shit what you're like providing you're competent.
T. Doesn't work in tech.
There's literally startups hiring every day. They aren't hiring for basic skills though and you will need to specialise in something like Rust, react, data science, or whatever. But this is something anyone can learn providing they pick up a book.
Your idea that people are going to reject you for being 'weird' are ludicrous. The entire tech industry is weird and filled with people who are outliers. This is where nerds end up. Nobody is going to give a shit what you're like providing you're competent.
>>251354
>They aren't hiring for basic skills though and you will need to specialise in something like Rust, react, data science, or whatever. But this is something anyone can learn providing they pick up a book.
Sounds like a hefty investment, not sure if I can do that as actual level 3 wizard, a lotta the tech people that pass through my supermarket wageslave place seem to be young.
>They aren't hiring for basic skills though and you will need to specialise in something like Rust, react, data science, or whatever. But this is something anyone can learn providing they pick up a book.
Sounds like a hefty investment, not sure if I can do that as actual level 3 wizard, a lotta the tech people that pass through my supermarket wageslave place seem to be young.
>>251354
Those same startups go bankrupt all the time too, and you're expected to work much more time for less money because they can pay you as much, they also expect "passion" for the project, also they hire niggers, feminists and poos because they love diversity and you're expected to work with them.
There's no easy way here, the market was good for people like us 25 years ago, not anymore.
Those same startups go bankrupt all the time too, and you're expected to work much more time for less money because they can pay you as much, they also expect "passion" for the project, also they hire niggers, feminists and poos because they love diversity and you're expected to work with them.
There's no easy way here, the market was good for people like us 25 years ago, not anymore.
>>251355
Wizzie im trying to help you. You have all the time in the world to become successful at tech stuff. This is actually a huge advantage because a lot of people in tech just do it 9 - 5 after they get some work history and then stop learning. If you master something well its very easy to show that off.
>>251358
I feel like whatever I say you're just going to come up with some far-fetched scenario where it doesn't work even though you have no direct experience with what you're talking about lmao. Yes, about 9/10 startups fail. Once a startup secures funding though it usually lasts a decent amount of time before they have to do it again (depends on the size and burn through rate obviously.)
What do you mean it's a bad time for tech? When I started in tech it was considered a top-tier perk to work remotely (still easily obtainable for all specialist engineers.) Thanks to covid bretty much every startup is now 100% remote. There is a metric fuck load of jobs. But they're obviously only for skilled positions. When I say jobs I am really only talking about the tech market in the US. The average pay for roles I am talking about is about $100 - 200k USD for startup roles.
That would be more than enough to live in most cities. You can earn even more than that with a background in computer science working at the big tech companies. But I only have experience working at startups. Despite working for only small to medium sized companies I can say the pay is still very good. And as long as you get your work done no one really cares how many 'hours' you put in. Nor could they check this anyway if you're working remotely.
Wizzie im trying to help you. You have all the time in the world to become successful at tech stuff. This is actually a huge advantage because a lot of people in tech just do it 9 - 5 after they get some work history and then stop learning. If you master something well its very easy to show that off.
>>251358
I feel like whatever I say you're just going to come up with some far-fetched scenario where it doesn't work even though you have no direct experience with what you're talking about lmao. Yes, about 9/10 startups fail. Once a startup secures funding though it usually lasts a decent amount of time before they have to do it again (depends on the size and burn through rate obviously.)
What do you mean it's a bad time for tech? When I started in tech it was considered a top-tier perk to work remotely (still easily obtainable for all specialist engineers.) Thanks to covid bretty much every startup is now 100% remote. There is a metric fuck load of jobs. But they're obviously only for skilled positions. When I say jobs I am really only talking about the tech market in the US. The average pay for roles I am talking about is about $100 - 200k USD for startup roles.
That would be more than enough to live in most cities. You can earn even more than that with a background in computer science working at the big tech companies. But I only have experience working at startups. Despite working for only small to medium sized companies I can say the pay is still very good. And as long as you get your work done no one really cares how many 'hours' you put in. Nor could they check this anyway if you're working remotely.
>>251361
>You have all the time in the world to become successful at tech stuff.
I have, AT MOST, a year. My crazy parents still expect grandchildren from me. Is that near enough time including wageslavery?
>You have all the time in the world to become successful at tech stuff.
I have, AT MOST, a year. My crazy parents still expect grandchildren from me. Is that near enough time including wageslavery?
>>251371
Why are you so concerned with what your crazy parents want from you? Learn to live life according to what you want from it
Why are you so concerned with what your crazy parents want from you? Learn to live life according to what you want from it
>>251361
How did you find jobs at these startups? Obviously pre-pandemic times you'd have to be in some big city. Now they tend to be remote, but as a result there are 100x as many people applying for them. I'm guessing that you've already been in the industry for several years, as anyone who has been looking for work recently knows that it's very hard to get even a call back without x years of work experience. I know many guys with CS degrees who are working shitty tech support jobs or are NEET.
How did you find jobs at these startups? Obviously pre-pandemic times you'd have to be in some big city. Now they tend to be remote, but as a result there are 100x as many people applying for them. I'm guessing that you've already been in the industry for several years, as anyone who has been looking for work recently knows that it's very hard to get even a call back without x years of work experience. I know many guys with CS degrees who are working shitty tech support jobs or are NEET.
>>251406
Senior developers who got in years ago or got lucky are always going around saying it's so easy. It is easy for a senior dev. But junior devs and people without exceptional skills/luck/intelligence have absolutely flooded the market in the last 2 years or so, so it is fucked for them
Senior developers who got in years ago or got lucky are always going around saying it's so easy. It is easy for a senior dev. But junior devs and people without exceptional skills/luck/intelligence have absolutely flooded the market in the last 2 years or so, so it is fucked for them
>>251406
>>251411
ill write up some advice if you genuinely want some tips but i dont want to bother if people are going to just shoot down everything i say. i know this is dep and depression actually biases you towards negative outlooks i guess but i want people to at least be open to what im saying. let me know if you're interested and ill post something up.
>>251411
ill write up some advice if you genuinely want some tips but i dont want to bother if people are going to just shoot down everything i say. i know this is dep and depression actually biases you towards negative outlooks i guess but i want people to at least be open to what im saying. let me know if you're interested and ill post something up.
>>251414
I want some tips but you have to understand how things look from our perspective. We are wizards after all and I know that rubs people up the wrong way you're a misfit.
I want some tips but you have to understand how things look from our perspective. We are wizards after all and I know that rubs people up the wrong way you're a misfit.
>>251456
My situation is similar to OP except I’m 30 and the conundrum for me is being down to the last 5k I have and wanting to move to a new state to put myself on a “life or death” struggle to be self-sufficient.
Do you think it’s feasible? I’ve got some decent work history doing stocking merchandising and I’ll take a shit job no problem. I guess if you have survival and money management tips that are not the typical platitudes I’ll hear them out.
My situation is similar to OP except I’m 30 and the conundrum for me is being down to the last 5k I have and wanting to move to a new state to put myself on a “life or death” struggle to be self-sufficient.
Do you think it’s feasible? I’ve got some decent work history doing stocking merchandising and I’ll take a shit job no problem. I guess if you have survival and money management tips that are not the typical platitudes I’ll hear them out.
I am actually learning to code. I know it's considered a joke by now but what other hope do I have really?
>>251502
I’ve found that I’m literally so lazy that I would rather endure the mental anguish of a sub-par life than put in the effort to be successful.
The primary reasoning behind this is that I’m not only unwilling to learn to code but if I somehow got a job I would be unwilling to keep my skills updated so the whole thing is a waste of time. Doing the bare minimum is all I can muster because most of my mental energy is focused inward on maintaining my sanity and coping with intense social anxiety
I’ve found that I’m literally so lazy that I would rather endure the mental anguish of a sub-par life than put in the effort to be successful.
The primary reasoning behind this is that I’m not only unwilling to learn to code but if I somehow got a job I would be unwilling to keep my skills updated so the whole thing is a waste of time. Doing the bare minimum is all I can muster because most of my mental energy is focused inward on maintaining my sanity and coping with intense social anxiety
>>251506
Keep in mind that even if you learn X shit it doesn't guarantee you will be successful, even smart people have bad lives.
Keep in mind that even if you learn X shit it doesn't guarantee you will be successful, even smart people have bad lives.
>>251509
I feel like if I can just get the work part figured out, I could have a decent life. My key advantage is that I will never have a wife or kids. Having kids is a death sentence that normans are too stupid to avoid.
I feel like if I can just get the work part figured out, I could have a decent life. My key advantage is that I will never have a wife or kids. Having kids is a death sentence that normans are too stupid to avoid.
>>251338
I'm the wiz who shared a room with 2 pajeets. Just going to leave my opinion here.
Every other startup gig is a scam which you get paid half in "options" that are worthless when it fails, and your base pay is half of what you get at FANG since they actually don't have that much liquidity as a startup. The options are calculated at some ridiculously inflated valuation that usually doesn't happen, or only happens for about 2 days after an IPO after which the big whales rug the stock price, leaving you with peanuts. To escape the rat race and you need to earn as quickly as possible, not work 80 hour weeks for a VC normgroid for stock options which are all on paper anyways.
In my opinion the only worthwhile tech job is one at FANG, where you can get 300k/year with a master's degree. At that point an actual wizzie exit strategy becomes possible, it's just two years of saving as religiously as possible and there is genuine freedom at the end of it. But without a degree from a top 20 US school it's rare to even pass the resume screen if you did a coding bootcamp.
Learn2code is practical if you don't mind communicating with normies every single day, tech (especially startups that do agile type stuff) is not really a good experience for genuine introverts because there are meetings nonstop every day. The luckiest you can get is if your team is mostly boomers who keep to themselves outside of work except an occasional talk about sportsball or golf and have strict time constraints with no overtime because they need to take care of their family. The nightmare team is a bunch of teeny bopper boot camp normies, which is usually the case with startups.
I'm the wiz who shared a room with 2 pajeets. Just going to leave my opinion here.
Every other startup gig is a scam which you get paid half in "options" that are worthless when it fails, and your base pay is half of what you get at FANG since they actually don't have that much liquidity as a startup. The options are calculated at some ridiculously inflated valuation that usually doesn't happen, or only happens for about 2 days after an IPO after which the big whales rug the stock price, leaving you with peanuts. To escape the rat race and you need to earn as quickly as possible, not work 80 hour weeks for a VC normgroid for stock options which are all on paper anyways.
In my opinion the only worthwhile tech job is one at FANG, where you can get 300k/year with a master's degree. At that point an actual wizzie exit strategy becomes possible, it's just two years of saving as religiously as possible and there is genuine freedom at the end of it. But without a degree from a top 20 US school it's rare to even pass the resume screen if you did a coding bootcamp.
Learn2code is practical if you don't mind communicating with normies every single day, tech (especially startups that do agile type stuff) is not really a good experience for genuine introverts because there are meetings nonstop every day. The luckiest you can get is if your team is mostly boomers who keep to themselves outside of work except an occasional talk about sportsball or golf and have strict time constraints with no overtime because they need to take care of their family. The nightmare team is a bunch of teeny bopper boot camp normies, which is usually the case with startups.
>>251517
So the code maymay is a scam like pretty much everything on this planet, you know what? Suicide genuinely seems like the best option, at least you don't have to deal with this fucked up world and everyone is going to die at the end anyway.
So the code maymay is a scam like pretty much everything on this planet, you know what? Suicide genuinely seems like the best option, at least you don't have to deal with this fucked up world and everyone is going to die at the end anyway.
>>251517
True wizard can live on $20k/yr so pay doesn't matter so long as the work is easy.
True wizard can live on $20k/yr so pay doesn't matter so long as the work is easy.
>>251361
I would say that I agree with your advice about FANG pay and startup pay scales. The thing is I just don't see most people making the cut to get into one of these companies. The advantage of startups is you can get a job without a degree. Google does hire people without degrees but you would have to do insanely well in interviews to get a role at Google. As far as I know strong computer science fundamentals would be needed. I feel like after all is said and done you would practically have to be a genius to get hired at one of those places.
I would say that I agree with your advice about FANG pay and startup pay scales. The thing is I just don't see most people making the cut to get into one of these companies. The advantage of startups is you can get a job without a degree. Google does hire people without degrees but you would have to do insanely well in interviews to get a role at Google. As far as I know strong computer science fundamentals would be needed. I feel like after all is said and done you would practically have to be a genius to get hired at one of those places.
>>251520
I agree with you about not needing much money. When I was still wageslaving I spent about 20k a year, most on unavoidable things like rent and food. Nowadays I am down to 10k. I had thought that owning my own land would be cheaper but it turns out that the privilege of solitude comes with unavoidable tax and insurance burdens. I will hopefully be able to live another 40 years on my current savings like this.
The work in tech is easier than manual labour or customer service, but I don't think it's uniquely well-suited for wizards. I would place it at the same level as any generic white collar office job. With the potential to be a lot worse if you're in the memey startup scene filled with brogrammers and PM Stacies. I was completely burned out after being a code monkey for over two years, but I saved every penny I could because I knew that I couldn't keep it up by any means. They were actually planning on firing me by the end of it, lots of tech companies have this unspoken policy where if you don't get promotion after joining for three years, you're considered a bottom performer who is on the chopping block. And no surprise you have to be a normgroid to get promoted in the first place. I didn't care because the starting salary was already beyond my wildest dreams and let me save for freedom so I did the bare minimum every day since I had no desire to slave away for some rat race promo. Jokes on them that I had banked up nearly 400k by then. I moved back to my home country and told them to eat shit.
I don't know if there ever was a time when tech was the domain of autismmaxxed introverts, but it certainly isn't now.
I agree with you about not needing much money. When I was still wageslaving I spent about 20k a year, most on unavoidable things like rent and food. Nowadays I am down to 10k. I had thought that owning my own land would be cheaper but it turns out that the privilege of solitude comes with unavoidable tax and insurance burdens. I will hopefully be able to live another 40 years on my current savings like this.
The work in tech is easier than manual labour or customer service, but I don't think it's uniquely well-suited for wizards. I would place it at the same level as any generic white collar office job. With the potential to be a lot worse if you're in the memey startup scene filled with brogrammers and PM Stacies. I was completely burned out after being a code monkey for over two years, but I saved every penny I could because I knew that I couldn't keep it up by any means. They were actually planning on firing me by the end of it, lots of tech companies have this unspoken policy where if you don't get promotion after joining for three years, you're considered a bottom performer who is on the chopping block. And no surprise you have to be a normgroid to get promoted in the first place. I didn't care because the starting salary was already beyond my wildest dreams and let me save for freedom so I did the bare minimum every day since I had no desire to slave away for some rat race promo. Jokes on them that I had banked up nearly 400k by then. I moved back to my home country and told them to eat shit.
I don't know if there ever was a time when tech was the domain of autismmaxxed introverts, but it certainly isn't now.
>>251333
Not from US, but I would've personally took military route if not for the problem that I utterly hate waking up and immediately force myself to get prepared to go somewhere and in military you'll do this all the time. And most fun things in military aka. shooting guns is very rare occurrence, mostly you'll just feel dreadful with bunch of other guys who are weird in their own way or absolute monkeys who live only on their instincts
Not from US, but I would've personally took military route if not for the problem that I utterly hate waking up and immediately force myself to get prepared to go somewhere and in military you'll do this all the time. And most fun things in military aka. shooting guns is very rare occurrence, mostly you'll just feel dreadful with bunch of other guys who are weird in their own way or absolute monkeys who live only on their instincts
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>college student
Wiz are you trying to be a doctor or some shit?
>college student
Wiz are you trying to be a doctor or some shit?
>>251317
Being a wagie on those shitty jobs while living on your own is way easier than while living with parents, you won't have to deal with their bullshit once you get home. The best course of action is to get a job, then ask your parents for more money and explain to them your current uni situation, unless they have no money to help you, I doubt they will refuse, since you now have a job and is close to graduation. Good luck wiz.
Being a wagie on those shitty jobs while living on your own is way easier than while living with parents, you won't have to deal with their bullshit once you get home. The best course of action is to get a job, then ask your parents for more money and explain to them your current uni situation, unless they have no money to help you, I doubt they will refuse, since you now have a job and is close to graduation. Good luck wiz.
>>251314
Finish college if you can. It's better to have a degree than no degree. Also you can always find easy jobs. Grind. Work and try to self teach something on the side.
Then figure it out what you really want. Maybe you're just unmotivated because this profession is not really your passion.
Finish college if you can. It's better to have a degree than no degree. Also you can always find easy jobs. Grind. Work and try to self teach something on the side.
Then figure it out what you really want. Maybe you're just unmotivated because this profession is not really your passion.
>>253367
Not op but it's possible. I'm 29 and enrolled into college at 25.
My parents financing my expenses (oh yeah I'm from Eu so the tuition is free).
I know it's not the norm, my family is quite well off and they want me to have a good paying profession so I can become financially independent from them
Not op but it's possible. I'm 29 and enrolled into college at 25.
My parents financing my expenses (oh yeah I'm from Eu so the tuition is free).
I know it's not the norm, my family is quite well off and they want me to have a good paying profession so I can become financially independent from them
>>253367
No I just dropped out several times and failed many classes, then worked some dead end jobs and returned to school because I had nowhere else to go.
No I just dropped out several times and failed many classes, then worked some dead end jobs and returned to school because I had nowhere else to go.