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 No.251737[Last 50 Posts]

Post here when you don't have enough to say for a topic and it's too depressing for the general crawl thread.

 No.251739

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 No.251740

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i will be happy someday i guess

 No.251755

Religion has one thing that is very consistent across all spiritual tomes. The world is shit. The bible says it. The quran says it. The buddha says it.

It seems like the ancient people were all in agreement with our lot but somehow that wisdom was lost

 No.251757

>>251755
I blame rampant materialism
Idiots became convinced stuff made life legitimately better instead of just distracting from suffering

 No.251761

This might not be the right thread for it. But I'm really fucked up about how my neighbor can just box my car in with his car, parking on my property, and there's nothing I can do about it in this country.

I get all the paperwork and go to the cops and they're like "lol no, it's a civil issue. And if you tow the car away we'll charge you". Tow companies now refuse to tow cars away in this situation because the liability laws are so fucked up in this situation. The tow company told me that this happens to hundreds of people a year and it fucks so many people over. I have to spend money going to court to get this sorted.

I'm really jealous of people that live in the United States. In countries like New Zealand and Canada you can get fucked over so hard by the absolute scum of society and the government punishes you for it.

 No.251764

>>251761
Same, a bunch of government-protected thugs turned the front of people's houses into parking lots for a nearby mall. Now, you have a street where driving a car leaves you with maybe a 5 cm margin of error before you scratched somebody bike and they threaten you for money. The residents and non-residents are running out of parking space too so everybody park in front of somebody else's home. You need to be able remember which cars belong to whom and ask him to move the car every time you need to exit or enter your own home. You also need to pay the thugs protection money.

 No.251777

>>251755
>>251757
This is much more complicated than that. Yes, religions have a side that says the world is shit but! They also have that part where "it is God's world and we were created by him so everything is for the better, even pain and suffering serve a higher purpose". In my view, religions are responsible for this stupid optimism we have nowadays. Buddhism also teaches basically that the problem is with you if you suffer, because you let the world influence you and your inner peace. Most of religions and philosophy has been pretty much bullshit made to pacify dumb normals with their lot/position in life. Nowadays it isn't religion like christianity they use for their shit-tier optimism, but new age neo-buddhism/eastern religions or stoicism. Dude, if you suffer, it's like because you let negative thoughts into your head! :^) God, I hate stoicism and buddhism the most probably, it is like they were made by the biggest normalfags ever.

And no, it isn't materialism, actually most materialism usually leads to pessimism. Child-like belief in things that don't exist but should because they are nice is the root of many people's optimism.

 No.251778

>>251755
>>251757
>>251777
the world isn't shit, and Christianity doesn't think so either. remember the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve used to live in blissful ignorance and just spent all day basking in the glory of their Creator. it is only when they ate the forbidden fruit (symbolic of the discovery of agriculture) that we became self conscious and things went to shit.

Our world, that we created, is shit because our society makes men bad. people in society are unhappy and imbalanced because of the mismatch between civilized life and human nature, which is inherently good. civilized life takes away the true freedom we once had and exchanges it with inequality, envy, and self consciousness.

 No.251779

>>251778
Human nature is not inherently good. If anything it’s inherently bad.

 No.251780

Parking is so messed up.

One of the biggest problems in cities is finding a place to park your car overnight.

If you leave it parked over night, you could get a ticket or they try to tow away your car by putting an "abandoned vehicle" notice on your car and if you don't come back to your car in time, it gets towed away somewhere.

It's completely stupid. Cities are stupid. There is not enough parking for anyone.

It's even worse in the winter because snow and ice can build up. It's just so dumb.

 No.251781

>>251778
Christianity thinks it's shit, but not because of God, instead it blames humanity. You can't blame the supreme bastard known as the Creator, oh god no, it is man's fault, the fault of the creation that…creation is bad! Not because of the Creator, nu-uh! This is the biggest problem with any religion that is monotheistic.

The world is objectively shit unfortunately, I mean look at all the diseases and horrible shit that happens in nature. I agree with you that civilization was a mistake, we would be better off with innocent and stupid mankind than with the civilized asshole that is the trend nowadays.

>>251779
This mentality is pushed exactly by those who benefit from the existence of civilization the most. (duh) Human nature is actually quite good, if you raise them well when they are kids. We have/had so many bastards because they weren't educated properly, because civilization is pretty much rotten to the core. It is all about what you show kids - love and respect for your fellow human or that it is okay to be selfish and to pile up wealth/resources you don't need yourself.

 No.251783

>>251781
>love and respect for your fellow human or that it is okay to be selfish and to pile up wealth/resources
And which one of these is human nature I wonder. Cause before civilization, there was never any conflict of course, no sir. Just a bunch of gatherers sitting around making daisy chains.

 No.251787

Earlier I felt the alcohol delirium withdrawals for the first time in two years. I felt terribad again. Full on fugue. I feel like I am fallen all the way off the wagon and the only option now is a slow taper. I hope I am okay…

 No.251789

Sleep problems still continuing.
Fell asleep with relative ease tonight. As usual, woke up after an hour or two. Couldn't go back to sleep.
Dogs still barking endlessly into the night. Not sure if I never noticed before because I didn't have this much trouble sleeping, but they seem to bark every night for at least two hours or so. It's not constant barking and (usually) not very long, but it feels like it's timed just right so that they start barking again as soon as I forget about them.
Tried putting in earplugs to combat this, but I don't think I've quite figured out how to put them in correctly yet. Once they expand, they start sticking out of my ears a bit. Might be normal. They worked for maybe 15 minutes or so, then I could hear the dogs again, even through the earplugs. Is it because I didn't put them in properly? In any case, sleeping with them is uncomfortable. Ears felt stuffed. Felt good when I pulled them out.
Left shoulder hurts again. Feels uncomfortable when laying on it. Too bad it's my preferred laying position. Pretty sure I mess it up by constantly shuffling around in bed. Funny how you can hurt yourself doing that.
Something could probably be said about my tinnitus as well, but I'll spare you those details.
Woke up at about 1 am. Was 2:30 when I decided I wasn't sleeping the night. Just couldn't get to sleep. 3:20 as I'm writing this. Is this a bad decision? Two nights earlier I spent *5* hours laying in bed without falling asleep, so I doubt staying in bed would've done much good. Luckily I don't have to wake up at a particular time, but I'm going to uni and want to have a somewhat normal sleep schedule.
Mother says I should take benzos when I can't fall asleep. Maybe I should've done that instead of giving up on sleeping. Thoughts?
On good nights, I will wake up two, maybe three times throughout the night, but be able to fall back asleep, or at least be in a semi-sleep state. On these night I might get 4-5 hours of sleep, even though I'll spend around 10-11 hours being in bed. Maybe I actually get a bit more sleep than I mentioned, but it's sure not the full length of time I spend in bed.

It didn't use to be this way.

 No.251791

>>251789
Tried going back to bed. Remembered that at some point I decided that in situations like this where I fail to fall asleep at the appropriate time I should still try to get some sleep, even if it's going to be an hour or two. How weird is it that in situations like this my go-to response is to give up on sleeping for the night?
Anyways, went to bed shortly after writing the post above. Felt sleepy enough, but as the minutes passed got less and less sleepy. Then the dogs started barking again. Is this some kind of joke? Now that I'm not in bed they're silent. Soon enough mother will wake up, and when that happens I _definitely_ won't be able to fall asleep. I don't know why, but I can't seem to sleep unless I'm in total silence. Kind of ironic given that I mentioned having tinintus.
Anyways, I'm not sleeping tonight.

 No.251792

>>251787
Just embrace it wiz, the world is such a fucking piece of dogshit, i don't blame you for anything, i'm high off my medical cannbis all the time nowadays because everything feels for painful for me.

 No.251814

>>251783
It's not about conflict, if anything pre-civilization people could defend themselves against those who tried to exploit them. But civilization itself is built around exploitation, it is like a pyramid scheme and if you are the lowest in the pyramid like most people, then it just sucks. Giving up your freedom to people you don't even know and trusting them to protect you and make decisions that will benefit you..isn't this pure insanity?

 No.251837

>>251814
Noble Savage is a total myth. Pre-civilization people were slaughtering and enslaving each other. I guess people in the past were just decapitated by a stone axe instead of "exploited". Just fuck off

 No.251840

>>251814
> if anything pre-civilization people could defend themselves against those who tried to exploit them
What the fuck makes you think that?

 No.251846

trying to kms by dehydration the first 5 days were absolutely horrid now its still crap but eh not much worse then everyday life im soon to be on day 10 and i doubt this will work i dont even feel bad just lightheaded if i wanted to i could still go on a run :/ i lost like 12% of my bodyweight so far i dont intake any water so idk i read its supposo take like 14-20 days i hope that wont be the case i am just sitting in my room not doing anything but still i used to drink 7+ liters of water a day not to mention all the other crap that contains water anyone got tips on how to speed this shit up ? or some better method

 No.251853

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i dont know i dont get gloomy people im very cheerful even though im like this but i cant do it. i dont know ive really decided on suicide and its really over for me, its just a matter of time, my life is over, i just spend every moment of my day wishing i could start again, imagining the sort of person i wish i had grown up to be, fantasizing about the things id do if i were i free. i dont know i lurk imageboards and people talk about phones and girlfriends and videogames, i dont get it, if i had another life id spend all my time drawing and studying things like maths and cybersec. i dont know im not supposed to cry, ive been told if i cry even just once more ill be sent to a mental ward no questions asked, but i like thinking about things like drawing which makes me want to cry. i really dont get why people dont like work and things like that, the world is so nice. i dont know i wish i had a chance, i dont want to die, i love life very much, i dont know i just want to say i like life and there are things i think i could be awesome at but i cant do it because of several realistic and practical problems, i just want to say i wish i could start over, i wish after i die that i could be reborn as myself but that things werent so difficult and i could try. i dont care about feeling in control of my own life or anything like that, i just wanted to draw and program a lot and write a lot of proofs. i dont know ill die anyways like i never i existed so ill just say what i really think, i just love drawing programming and maths a lot. and i wish i had spent my life with those things instead of the hell ive been through. i dont know i like those things so much and it makes me so happy and glad to be alive when i can show something to someone that i can see with my minds eye. and im happy when i can see the world through others peoples eyes too. i dont know i like daydreaming about what if i had another chance, but i dont even know what kind of person i would turn into or how id psychologically develop if i had a chance, i dont know i love life so much and i wish i had lived too. it just felt like asphyxiating to death in an invisible glass cage and watching everyone have fun on the other side while trying to break the glass. i dont know id do anything for another chance. i wish i could have shown whats inside, i think its endless, and shown that i care about others. i dont know sorry for making a post. sorry.

 No.251855

I just suddenly got very miserable, I can't sleep and I'm crying. The bitter pains of better times feel so heavy - unconscious consumption is my only home. I feel fine when appropriately submerged in things that make me forget what a twisted incongruent sad shell of sentience I am. I have nothing else and I can't exist as anything else. I'm living on borrowed time until everything becomes too much. I'm sorry.

 No.251868

>>251846
Are you still eating other things? You might be getting more water than you think from food.

 No.251870

>>251853
Beautiful
But why not just code and proof? Is it not fulfilling or is something keeping you from doing it?

 No.251874

>>251853
bpd succ?

 No.251875

>>251874
no, that's erogebro

 No.251878

>>251792
Me too wiz. Always high on my medicinal cannabis too escape this shitty dumb world. Althought i need to take t-breaks every few weeks so i can still get high again.

 No.251879

>>251837
>I guess people in the past were just decapitated by a stone axe instead of "exploited".
Then stop whining about wageslaving and embrace the slave life. Your choice. Imo, death in battle is better than slaving away your whole life for rich assholes.

>>251840
The gap between people was less enourmous pre-civilization. You could just fight/kill whoever was your enemy or steal things from those who had more. Nowadays, everything is so protected by law enforcement you don't stand a chance. Civilization is for normalfags who can work together and can adapt to the society they live in, for us lone wolves it is suffocating, plain and simple.

 No.251896

I wouldn't say normies, in general, hate me. I'm beneath bothering to hate, even if their actions towards me, if thought out and mediated would only be done towards one you hate.

Its like steeping on an ant.

Or a better example boiling a lobster alive. If actually meditated it would only be done out of extreme hateful sadism. But it is beneath hate.

Basically these are actions that if thought out would only be done in hatred, but done to beings not worth thinking about.

So in that sense I do feel normies hate me, the fact that I'm too low to enter their consciousness doesn't make their treatment less hateful.

 No.251931

Sometimes I feel like I am going crazy. I feel like I am going to cry. Tears want to come out but they dont. It seems like it has probably been a long time since I cried. Im not good at remembering. I kinda just stare away into space. Every time I breath it feels so unreal. My eyes don't focus right. Why am I writing this. Do I want somebody to read it? Is there anybody to read it? It feels like nausea this feeling, but without the sickness.

 No.251932

>>251931
We read it and we (the consortium) believe you are undergoing a mental breakdown from isolation and some other unspecified mental ailments. Present yourself at the Civic Hall at 0800 hours tomorrow for evaluation and, if applicable, neurosurgery. Good day.

 No.251935

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I am quite young at just 22.
I didn't explicitly say that it's impossible, but just that it's difficult and a catch 22, and I am not optimistic about it getting better for both the stated reasons and my depression giving me a pessimistic outlook.

My life has been like this for a decade now.
I have no hobbies, I enjoy little to nothing, everything I tried to do I gave up because I didn't have the discipline and passion to go through with it properly.
I am extremely incompetent, inattentive, forgetful and naive, my memory is full of stupid and childish and ignorant things I did that shouldn't match my age.
I'm incredibly insecure about my value as a person because my life has been filled with failure, I was bullied in school and had neglectful parents that constantly rubbed it in about how they want me to make it and not be a burden on others.
I dropped out of college because I kept forgetting stuff I learned in the past semesters and I couldn't keep up with the lost knowledge piling on as semesters came and went, and I also couldn't really stomach online classes after corona started last year because I can't focus.
I am extremely anxious about aging and getting older, neuroplasticity falling after 25 making it much harder to learn things, a gap in my resume making a return to education or employment more and more difficult, time goes by too fast and things change too slowly for me if at all.
I just feel incredibly stupid and incapable of learning how to better myself.
I was tested and I don't have ADHD, this is all either my natural intelligence or depression-induced cognitive decline at work.
Meds didn't help me really, therapy didn't help me either, I am currently on the waiting list for a stay at a mental hospital to see if I can get better there, though I am scared of going there because of my social anxiety.

 No.251936

>>251737
>no friends
>no hobbies
> shitty job I can't quit, gets shitter every day, long past unbearable
> everything I used to dream of shattered, after being rejected by Unis multiple times
> nothing I used to love doing brings me joy anymore (I'm talking vidya, any type of entertainment consumption really)
Everything I do is wait as time passes, every day is literally the same as the one before

I've tried a lot of shit suggested to "get out of depression". I tried working out, even saw some results, but then it became a chore and I slowly stopped doing it
No new hobby I picked up ever felt fun, even if I forced myself to do it for a while, it just didnt grow on me
Tried getting in touch with old friends, no one "has time" to go out with me.

That's it, basically. Life is too bleak the way it is now to be worth living

 No.251938

What's the difference between anhedonia and depression?

 No.251940

>>251938
The latter is not as obscure, so when you're making a social media post you should open with the second one so people (friends, family, dog, coworker, lolyeah) know what you're suffering from.

 No.251941

>>251938
there is none, depression is a made-up meme illness to sell pills in US

should of just taken fish oil supplements and gymmaxxed to get rid of your low-energy

 No.251943

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>>251936
I wonder if anhedonia isn't just nature's cue. Like she's saying, "You've come to see what all you've come to see. It's alright, you can leave now." A gentle way to say to let go.

 No.251977

>>251938
Anhedonia is more a symptom, and depression more of a mental condition in itself. Anhedonia is usually a symptom of depression.

 No.252044

>>251761
What exactly do you think would happen in the US in this situation?

 No.252045

>>252044
In the US you can just put a sign up saying "Vehicles will be towed/clamp" and then do so. Or in some states if a certain amount of time passes it becomes abandoned and you can just claim it and scrap it yourself. Or you could charge them for tresspassing.

It varies by State, but you have so many tools at your disposal there.

Also I work construction and just a few days ago in this country a bunch of squatters were downtown in a building that was being renovated. They didn't waste any time, there were 5 cops doing the smash and enter to chase them out. So they look after the upper class rich cunts with their property.

In New Zealand an old man bought a house, and the previous tenants from the rental just sqautted in there and refused to move. He had no legal means of evicting them, and wasn't allowed to even switch off the utilities because of "human rights" laws lol. It's a fucked country.

 No.252046

I'm so sick of everything, everyday feels like a war against the whole world without a single ally on your side.

 No.252050

>>251943
Incorrect. Anhedonia is nature’s way of saying “get out of your comfort zone, you’ve been doing the same thing everyday”.

 No.252055

I don't hate happy people. I hate people with energy, with motivation, with drive, with extroversion. They are completely alien to me. I literally couldn't even if everything was going my way. I feel like another race compared to people around me. It's sickening.

 No.252114

>>252050
>brain throwing a tantrum like a toddler instead of allowing peaceful life of simple routine because its a fucking pussy and knows lack of stimulus will make it rot
Makes me not wanna respect it out of spite, but that would suck too.

 No.252234

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It's not getting better ahahaha

 No.252235

>>251943
what manga is that? Can't find it on reverse image search

 No.252236

Large up all my virgins out there! Whoop whoop

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 No.252267

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I have nothing to motivates me.
I don't have the energy to live.

 No.252268

I get terribly anxious and unnverved when people start using slang words and "hip" language. It's even worse when I'm browsing a forum or chatroom related to a somewhat nerdy interest; it's like my brain is overloading with memories of all the other times I've tried to bond with people over similar interests and failed because they, of all people, found me repugnant as well. When everyone's anonymous/pseudonymous it's easy to drop my guard and pretend, if only for a while, that I'm among "real" outcasts. I'm not sure how to remedy this problem since it seems to stem from a profound lack of self-esteem and insecurities which I can't (or won't) address head-on.

What's more likely is that "hip" affectations, such as the kind that young people adopt, forcibly remove me (by way of triggering repressed memories) from my near decade-long self-imposed isolation and bring me back to high school. If they invented a machine that could wipe entire years from your memory I'd be running to get in line.

 No.252271

>>252268
Clarification: I become unbalanced seeing others within the same subculture form bonds with each other at a rapid pace; it is an acute reminder of my status as an eternal outsider.

 No.252275

Guys guys guys, i truly innerstand that being a depressed human for a significant amount of time feels extremely shitful. Honestly, i know how it feels to be an outsider..even in your own household. To feel like you don't fit in is to feel like the pleasure and satisfaction of having a relation between you and another being will never happen. The physical and mental solitude we experience feels draining and miserable. I'm not going to tell you the stupid "giving up is never an option" shit, but i can say that Nothing Ever Lasts. What they call "depression" is just a physical state where you're whole body is basically saying that it's tired of living like this. An anti-depressant doesn't appear shit into your life, everything remains the fkn same. They're just emotion pills. Medication is the downgrade of humanity. Endure and actually feel you're emotions in order to slowly ascend. Want change in your life? Take risks. Thats the fastest way to have change and experience something new. You've already been thru hell and back so why not?

 No.252277

>>251853
how old are you? Its never too late to start coding, wizard

 No.252293

>>252277
Not that wiz, but after I gained a ton of passive knowledge in Python I'm completely stuck on where to even start with creating something. I tried to create a program to organize my movies into folders but that failed tremendously let alone learning all of the other packs like tkinter.

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 No.252304

>>252303
is this a clip from adventure time or something

 No.252305

I've been filling up HDDs with porn for the past 5 years.

I want out.

 No.252306

The world is truly going to shit, in all forms, politics, videogames,culture, everyday I watch news and I end up thinking that I don't want to be here in 2048 when it gets much worse knowing that it's a dystopia already.

But on the other hand I see that civilization is very close to collapsing beautifully and I will be happy to see that.

 No.252307

>>252293
if you have a problem with such a basic program then you definitely dont have 'a ton of knowledge' by any metric, no disrespect intended

 No.252309

Anyone here have ADHD? I can't start tasks even if they're easy. I'll think about them for weeks but never do them.

 No.252310

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>>252277
i turned 23 yesterday i am capricorn but i think it would have been better if i were born under pisces or aquarius
its too late ive given up on everything feels like being in a swamp at night surrounded by crocodiles and snakes and sinking and there are time bombs strapped on my body. all i can do is close my eyes and try to think of nice things.
i think quantum computing is so cool its like what computers were in the 60s algorithms are described every day its a niche i think i would fit right into. i like to imagine being a paper writing machine and connecting the dots between various theories and being a prolific writer even as a student. i like to imagine discovering algorithms that would otherwise take several decades to be discovered and contributing to ai and cryptology. physics is so cool i wish i were a witch sometimes and i believe in magic and isnt there anything more withcraft-like than quantum physics !!!! physicists are like magicians but i guess chemists and mathematicians and other professionals are too i guess.
i dont know its really over all i do is daydreaming and listening to music and viewing images that for some reason pull on my hearstrings, i wont do anything im just trying to get the courage to jump off a bridge but i know when i die its really over so i want to imagine, living happy fantasies in my head for as long as possible before the eternal cold of death. i dont know the world is so beautiful and im so lucky to be born, i appreciate the tiny things, i think the cracks in the wall and the flies theyre all beautiful too and life is a gift. i feel free like i can create meaning. i dont know i wish i were free, i think i would use my freedom responsibly. i dont know i wish i had my childhood back, i wish that so much you have no idea. i wanted to be the best best brightest student and i wanted to read hundreds of books through my childhood and be really wild with my brain so people would call me a monster and be scared of me but in a good way. because i love other people so much and want others to be happy, i think altruism and kindness and freedom are the most important things, if my self esteem werent infinitely low then i would wish i were everyones friend i really wish that but i think i wouldnt deserve it so i dont. i like the arcadian the bucolic and pastoral. im so happy. i think in many ways i havent developed past my preteens and theres some good in that.
i dont know i just wanted to express i feel a clusterf*ck of things
im a very bad person bad bad bad boring and ugly person, i dont know most people dont care about others but theyre good people but i care about others and want to be a good person but i turned out very badly. im sorry for talking i know i shouldnt talk. sorry. sorry.

 No.252311

>>252293
People like you and me are finished, I should have learned programming seriously when I was 15, now I'm 26 and I know shit and it's way past the age to learn for real, I will be a failure forever.

 No.252312

>>252307
None taken - I've come to the same realization. Despite the books I've read and hours of tutorials I've seen on youtube I guess programming just isn't for me.

>>252311
Yup it definitely seems that way. I'm 29 and the only subjects I can still learn new things in are the ones I studied when I was younger and what I graduated in. I'll probably end up having to be underemployed for the rest of my life.

 No.252313

>>252310
>i think it would have been better if i were born under pisces or aquarius
If you don't believe in Santa Clause or the Tooth Bunny there is no reason why you should also still believe in Astrology.

 No.252316

>>252305
I got hold of a very cheap (5 bucks or sth.) 1-month-subscription for my favorite porn site at the beginning of this year. I never paid for porn before and never started collecting it since I probably would have ended just like you, but since it's basically the site catering to my fetish I wanted to have a clean, high quality collection from there and downloaded basically everything onto an extra HDD. The internet could go down forever and I would have no problem fapping to this humble collection for all eternity.

 No.252317

>>252312
I think some people do just not have a brain for programming, I have seen it. However, it is possible you just weren't learning or being taught in the right way for you. Watching tutorials and reading books is no substitute for solving 'first programming course' problem sets yourself and googling or reading notes for each step that you get stuck - I found that much more enjoyable than passive learning, and the only effective way to really learn. Sometimes you may have to seek multiple different learning resources until there is one that works for you. None of this is a sign that you're defective, it is normal, especially in the beginning breaking down the most difficult barriers

 No.252318

my family got a dog but they REFUSE to play with him or walk him or do anything with him. they basically ignore him and I have to take care of him.

why do normalfaggots do this? It's like they live in a different universe

 No.252319

>>252311
>when I was 15, now I'm 26
You still have 4 years left of your 20s. Trust me, it's in your 30s when you can't absorb any information anymore.

 No.252320

>>252319

Oh man, I remember printing out a bunch of stickers with a QR code that linked to this video on youtube. Posted them all around town.

>>252311
>>252319
This is bullshit. I started college at 26, got my degree at 30.

I can say that absorbing information is a bit harder in your 30s, but that is simply because you already learned what you cared about and stop giving a shit about new things after a while. Well, that is how it was for me, at least.

The biggest factor I would say is your physical health. I was able to absorb information way easier when I drank a lot of water and worked out nearly every day.

 No.252321

>>252320
>drank a lot of water
I don't get why everyone make such a big deal out of this, as if it makes such a big difference besides making you have to go urinate all the time.

 No.252322

>>252317
>>252311
>>252307
>>252293
The trick I believe is to follow a plan from start to finish. If you follow every chapter of one of those "beginner to expert" udemy courses for example and ingage in programming discord groups whenever you have a doubt, you should be fine. If you rather read you could also download a full guide, however it's importante to finish what you start.

 No.252323

If the world won't end next year then my future is poverty and hunger.

 No.252324

>>252323
sadly it probably won't. hope you can maintain some level of comfort bud.

 No.252325

>>252307
>>252311
>>252320
>>252322
I started learning programming at 30, now I'm 33. I still can't understand a single thing of what people are discussing in programming or computer forums, but I created a program to calculate moving averages of stocks, and then one to do some calculations and choose stocks daily, values for entrance and exit, and at least until now it's paying for my living.

I first tried javascript course on khan academy (terrible, don't bother), then John Keyser's How to Program video classes that I downloaded (began Python, really helped me, but got lost halfwaythrough, it gets very advanced), then I read Brookshear and Brylow's Computer Science (pretty good, introduced me to several concepts and has many exercises that are generic as in not belonging to a specific language), then did the two basic introduction to programming on Python OCW (not sure if first one added much compared to what I had already learned, but second one is introduction to data analysis, and I think some exercises depend on preprogrammed parts that don't work anymore). In all of them I tried all exercises very hard and googled only when I really couldn't anymore, even it it meant giving up for the day and trying again the day after. Still for the programs I created I had to google all the time. I think the idea of "following a plan" is propably the most accurate.

Then I also tried O'Reilly's Machine Learning from Scratch and had to give up because I just wasn't understanding anything.

 No.252326

>>252324
only until savings last, which shan't be too long. My mind is already gone and I don't think I'd even be able to sell my posessions efficiently to make it last longer.

 No.252329

>>252325
do you make enough to save? i'm 32, i'm not sure if it's worth the shot.

 No.252335

>>252329
Yes, but I try very hard to keep my spendings to a minimum. I live in a third world shithole and spend a little under our minimum wage. I put the remaining money in riskier assets in a one-shot-type attempt of a better life.

 No.252342

>>252335
I think I'm about to start the programming journey. I'm not sure if 32 is really too old but it's encouraging that you started at 30 and you're now making a living out of it.
Do you have any advice for someone who's starting? What languages do you believe are more profitable?

 No.252344

>>252342
The only one I actually know is Python, it's definitely the most accessible and easy to use. It has already been said on the thread, but do try all the exercises in the material, don't try to just passively acquire the knowledge. You will use google a lot, either for the documentation or to find answers on stackexchange, don't feel bad for doing it if you need to.

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 No.252346

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i dont know. i think its over so i might as well say what i really think. i think i had a purpose to serve, to shine a light on others path, and lift others through. i think im really different, its beyond being "off the curve", its something completely different, im really lucky to be like this, honestly i dont think i deserve being like this, it shouldve been someone else. things others find very difficult, its all very natural and easy to me, i can see in an instant things others might take many years to see, or maybe things they cant see at all. so it feels like i can fly when everyone else is grounded. to be frank it feels like i have some cheat codes to real life. but my life sucks a lot, sucks so much it makes up for all the ways im lucky. its like being a fish out of water. or a bird ten thousand feet under the sea. i dont know i just wish i had lived, i wish i could have tried, i really hope i can reincarnate when i die, i was supposed to be helpful and show answers to some problems. and to be fair i wanted to be a little free, i wanted to show what im all about, what i believe in, every way im different, even small things like talking about anime ive watched i wanted to do that too. i dont know to be frank i feel like i have the energy of a million stars in my chest, i feel like i could be infinite and want to give that to other persons, but life was very difficult. like there are things i cant even talk about because they would get me banned from wizchan, things that happened when i was very very little and scarred me for life, and everything snowballed from there, every day something happened, if i told you you wouldnt believe it, it was really hell and i wish no one else will ever have to feel like i did. i dont know i just wanted to say i felt like i was different from others in a very good and amazing way and wanted to give that to others but couldnt, wanted to say i feel like a white hole (google it on wikipedia) but i was just surrounded by the dark. wanted to say i felt very special and am proud of myself even though i hate myself a lot and am thankful for it but sad because ill just die like i never existed. i wanted to live, experience things, do things my own way, i wanted to be happy too, and make a very very big difference like i think i could have.
in other news my mom says she might get me a cat because im so depressed. she says she will decide on the name by herself but still ill give the cat a name of my own. if its a male ill call him hitler (after the little busters cat, not the dictator) and if its female ill call her maple (also a cat). ill call the cat hitler or maple whatever the official name is. maybe something else. like if its a white female with blue eyes then vanilla. osama is the first backup name for a male.
i dont know if theres something i wanted to say but couldnt because i cant find the words then it doesnt matter anymore im really done i think. im very sorry for posting i know no one cares but im annoying. i dont know sorry, sorry a lot.

 No.252347

I don't want to be alive another year.

 No.252355

>>252347
Me neither, brother. Me neither. I hope I die in my sleep tonight.

 No.252358

>>252326
stretch it out as much as possible man. you can make cheap ramen a lot better with a small amount of additives like kimchi or tiny amount of meat or egg.

 No.252386

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i dont know sorry for making another post i dont like standing out and ill probably be b& im probably already shadowb& anyways but i dont know im on the edge. i spend all my waking moments crying. please lord please lord let me go back. please lord give me a chance. everyone has a chance. i just wanted one like everyone else. i was drugged and battling lions every day, its not my fault, there were a lot of things, the more i learn about myself and the more i think about it the worse it looks, i dont know please let me go back, please let me a child, i didnt get to be one, i want to be 5 again, i want to go to school for the first time, i want to learn, i want to explore, i want to be myself, i want to try my best, i think i could have been an artist and mathematician out of this world, i think i have both amazing talent and dedication like no one else. im on the verge of being sent to a mental hospital because i cry too much and ive stopped eating and drinking, please lord please let me start over, i want to explore my own mind, i want to let my brain go wild, i want to be free, i want to create endlessly, i want to show others im really weird but in an awesome way, i think my brain is wired as a perfect supercomputer and a fountain of youth for creativity, it feels like my sub or un conscious is like an ocean from which i can fish as many ideas as i want, there are schools and schools of fish of all colors and coral reefs that stretch forever, anything i want i can imagine it, while most people struggle with it or have to make a conscious effort to think. i dont know i dont understand people who say this world sucks and everything is bad and they want to die, i want to live so much, i love this world so much, i dont know i wish i could express how much pain i feel, i wish i could express the size of what i feel like ive lost, i feel ive lost something the size of the whole universe or maybe bigger. i dont know i just want to start over, i want to wake up as myself in slightly difference circumstances in this era so i can have a chance to show everything i believe in, i want to start over nothing else. i dont know im sorry for making a post i wish other people would post a lot more so it would like my posts are very few and dont make up a significant amount of the thread. im sorry.

 No.252395

>>252386
play Warframe. it cured my Depression it can cure yours too. my favorite build is um i forget. but play warframe at least 200 hours

 No.252397

>>252358
try it with egg and thai peanut sauce. soooo good

 No.252399

>>252386
Have you upped your sigma grindset recently? This could be the root of your dissatisfaction with life.
Also, consider what >>252396 has suggested. It could be the warp holding you back…

 No.252400

>>252399
I think I'm done with wizchan.

 No.252402

No more lies…

 No.252407

>>252399
what a class A ironic shitpost
fuck off

 No.252424

>>252399
LJL @ this aul rotter here

 No.252427

Wake up today actually feeling pleasant instead of stressed and depressed for the first time in a long time. The difference? The weather is actually cool instead of the usual tropical heat and new year holidays means people aren't working and screaming at each other throughout the day. That's it. I have been feeling like shit for a years and all it takes to make me wake up thinking the world is beautiful is having the appropriate temperature and noise level. I hate my fucking sensitive body and mind. I should seriously think about moving to the countryside or something. This is the kind of feeling that humans need to feel when they wake up. I shouldn't be robbed from this just because I like in some third world hive colony.

 No.252429

>>252395
If eroge didn't "cure" him, I don't see how Warframe could.

 No.252449

I can't function if someone isn't taking care of me. I am a manchild retard and there's nothing to be said.

 No.252472

Was fun to have coping mechanisms. Shame they don't last.

 No.252479

most of my problems would go away if my greedy, selfish, narcissistic mom died

 No.252486

Every day that goes by I find myself wanting my time to be over. I'm tired of thought and motion. I'd like to stop, please.

 No.252503

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Going in to my thirties struggling to do basic things still
Year after year seeing people succeed from worse positions
And they just needed to push and try
Cycling through endless pieces of knowledge
You're so alone when you spend years trying
And still failing
People suggesting things youve tried
Nothing to say to anyone or to do
Just continue failing
Until suicide sets us free

 No.252504

I don't know what to do. I was having a perfectly fine day, and then a few hours ago I just fucking crashed and wanted to die more than anything else. Why does my brain plot it's own destruction? Why can't I just hold onto normalcy. I swear I must be becoming bipolar or some shit. I just can't stop it anymore. I'm done trying. I'll take the jewpills I'll go see the srhinks. I'lb esedated just anything to rid me of this living nightmare. I'm sitting here on the 11th storu just trying to find the strength to jump but I know I can't. I don't want to give up, but it feels like every other part of me does.

 No.252521

I've accepted the fact I'm never going to be able to kill myself. It's too hard and I'm too mentally weak. I'm stuck here until something kills me.
I just want it to be over already.

 No.252529

>currently cutting and drinking cheap vodka+diet coke
>haven't cut in years
>look down at the scars on my thighs from 6-7 years ago
>think about how I haven't changed at all in that time and I'm still the same shitty person I was back then
I'm a shit person and I deserve my shit life. I wish I could atone for being a shit person but I cant. every interaction I have with someone is negative and I'm a burden on everyone I meet. Everything i touch turns to shit.

 No.252531

>>252529
How’s the cafe?

 No.252550

Is it possible to not gather enough concentration and energy to formulate a simple coherent sentence let alnone post? I used to write long posts and used to care about theoretical questions but now all I do is vegetate and be exhausted at everything that could be only a little bit complicated.

 No.252552

>>252550
You may be depressed.

 No.252565

>>252529
Witch infiltrator

 No.252583

Who are some good, real youtubers, who know the score in life?
I like Inmendham, Sam Hyde and Itsagundam (althought the latter isnt very wizardly)

 No.252584

Yesterday was my 33th birthday. Everything is so tiresome, I don't want to keep going. This might be my last year of misery.

 No.252590

>>252584
today was my 34th, you'll be all right

 No.252592

>>252583
None. If you tape yourself and upload it to the internet you are nothing more than a clown.

 No.252598

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If I ever had it. I lost it.
I think the only thing left for me is to attempt an absolute dopamine fast and forcing myself to a different lifestyle.
I don't think it will work since my soulless state begun after forced dopamine fast, change of surroundings etc.
I dunno wizzies, how to unring a bell.

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 No.252610

Does being a manchild mean I can still get SIDS?

 No.252611

>>252610
*manbaby

 No.252624

>>252611
*goobrain

 No.252641

I don’t know if it’s the masks but it seems like people are smirking at me more. Outside world hostile again, it hasn’t been for a few years.

 No.252642

Can't bring myself to watch the EVA movie.

 No.252678

I am from the cursed realm and I am wondering among humans. I am alone here and others can’t help me.

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 No.252694

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I fantasize about waking up as a highschooler again, walking into class and then slaughtering each and every one of my classmates in minecraft i fantasize about setting off pipe bombs aka TNT, rememeber this is Minecraft in a crowded pavillion and watching all the normal happy well-adjusted ordinary folk get blown into chunks [/spoiler] in Mincraft[/spoiler] i fantasize about walking up to the cashier who turned away from me in disgust while giving a warm smile to every other customer, grabbing him by the hair and slitting his throat i don't think you can do that in minecraft but the point stands

oh sorry these are supposed to be for depressing thoughts not uplifting ones

it's all so funny now. i cannot stop smiling

 No.252697

>>251737
I have been beginning to think about humans and their interactions - how it may be just boring. I have been described as having autism by my parents and (((qualified psychologist, so so attractive succubus I was blushing infront of her))). I think my disinterest in interacting with people is justified, with Normies in their whole potential for interactions with all the potential human interaction mapped out. Would I bother walking into a pub or anywhere and try to chat, no.

 No.252698

>>252697
It all just seems to be about posturing over one of another of their self esteem that's mainly it.

 No.252701

>>252694
I really like this image, mind if I save it?

 No.252702

>>252701
not the person who posted it but the source manga is chi no wadachi, by same person that did aku no hana

 No.252703

I'm right out of booze again. It's like I never secured the financing for it all, suffering through every moment of near poverty. To think I could be sitting here on heroin - those days of wealth are long gone, and with them my happiness.

 No.252704

I have been positioning myself in this nothing in which I feel truly myself for years, and I occupy myself with the constant exercise of unknotting my ego, the game doesn’t come without charm, and after all, it does not cost a thing, maybe it costs only those smoky ideologies which I am happy to lose, being saved through the indifference is a novelty that is not accessible to succubi and children.
A serene indifference is the source of urbanity, the man who is consummated and possessed by his desire is nothing but a slave, a master isn’t moved and doesn’t feel any stir, like the Greek philosophers had already understood.

 No.252705

>>252234
it never gets better…

 No.252739

>>252705
Very nice wizard meme, sir.

Highly good stuff

 No.252751

>>252705
Sorry you posted an illegal meme but I feel you

 No.252790

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Finally realized that I'm just terminally retarded. I'm incapable of higher-order rational thinking and any attempts at crafting solid, well-thought out arguments are bound for failure, as are my ventures into "philosophy" and other intellectual pursuits. The only reason I haven't succumbed to, as one poster puts it, "featured on Oprah!"-tier books about vibrating crystal energies and chakras and whatnot is because reading bores me. The most I can do is regurgitate talking points from other sources, but when it comes time for critical thinking I stumble and fall, as always.

I don't think I ended up on this site because of some tendency for free-thinking, or because my intelligence set me apart from my peers. It was just difficult to fit (force myself, really) into any other spaces.

I am a peon, a yokel. A golem. Just another mook. One of the unwashed masses. I simply do not have the mental machinery to do anything useful. When I try, it's embarassing. My mind is a blunt instrument, but any attempts to hone it are fruitless. It's starting to make more and more sense why all the power and decision-making was consolidated among a chosen few throughout history (the aristocracy, the educated and the well-off); many of us would hurt ourselves if we did anything besides till the fields and die on battlefields (or whatever the modern equivalent is, mopping the floor at Wendy's and going to the pub on Friday)

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 No.252805

>>252790
I came to similar thoughts about emotional stability and the minority that truly maintain endless vitality and acting independent of environment make up the royal supreme class. With enough failure you are more accepting of yourself in a failed majority that lacks the things you struggled for.

 No.252807

>>252790
at least you are not chris chan

 No.252810

>>252642
Which one? If its the rebuilds then, I did enjoy the last one more than the previous one. They also finally put some good music back into the franchise.
It would solve many peoples problems if there was a real impact, then even cowards like me would be forced to cease existing.

 No.252832

I don't think I can take much more of this aimless clicking. All day I just scroll and click, scroll and click on the same handful of websites. I lost 10+ years of my life to this shit.

 No.252833

>>252832
Maybe you should get a job.

 No.252834

>>252833
I have a job that isnt remote and I still do the clicking and scrolling. I don't think I was meant to be normal.

 No.252847

What is the point

 No.252848

>>252832
Same, yet I don't do anything to change

 No.252849

>>252832
My way of getting out of it was

Week 1
>Every day I do something else for one hour a day, it doesn't matter what or if I make progress, as long as it is one hour

Week two I added another hour, and another hour. Until I got my computer time down.

 No.252850

>>252849
It definitely helps to have a hobby you actually have interest in. Once you do that the internet becomes more of a tool to support your hobbies rather than a timesink.

 No.252851


>>252849
dear anon, this >>252850 guy has a point
life only has meaning when you give meaning to it: have goals in your hobbies! what do you want to achieve today in $VIDYA_GAYME?? no??

what else can we do? reframe whatever hobby you are interested in as INTERESTING! get outside and learn about it, or inside and /cozy/ and think about it!

how do you think people have taught themselves about the world before school taught everyone? well, books
people stuff books with a great amount of information!

ever try to read the Bible? like, Gideon's Bible or ANYTHING LIKE IT? nevertheless, it's dense. whom begat whom begat whom begat they did anything; we must introduce his history, the timeline(-ish), the era, even fashion.

people do not understand the gift they have inside of the spooky skeletons underneath. the heart is obviously the most important; goddamn nervous system and brain.

if you have a dream, go out and do it. I personally advocate to go out and do positive things, and not bad or harmful (I see you, Mr. wannabe suicide; I did it and failed - hope you pass because I love you and wish not that pain on ye.)

gents, whip out your willies and fuck a gal; honies, ya'll know what to do with it. oh, don't be coy. I know what you want, you dirty fucking degenerate. deny her your precious bodily fluids; but give her the time of her life. even if it means not taking her clothes off. it counts as positive interaction and working towards i.e. a gf for you nogf'ers.

nonetheless, I do not care for succubi, nor men. not asexual; I am what the kids would call super-straight? don't get me wrong, a dick is for playing with, but thanks, I know how to use it better than you ever could.

no succubus has made me cum. no; they don't need a damn map, I just can do better than they can at a nice consistent orgasm and ectasy. succubi like to use the male orgasm as an excuse because of well, pregnancy. nonetheless, it's swallowed and it's over; or you did an oops. she can just stick that goopy shit inside of her pussy and make you a daddy, honey. oh, gimme child support:)

gooning is the future, my friends
find a loved one and teach them the way if you cannot find it
gooning is love
gooning is life:)

 No.252854

>>252852
anon, fucking tl;dr
because I Like your face, I might tell you something like I love you; but we must first have our third date…
nonetheless: you (and I) both need more experience in life
we are without close trusting people that we can say that we enjoy, praise, and love. trust is a river, one that only may be conquered by mutual love and sincere communication (which can be very subtle!)

learn how to love yourself; find a way to express whatever this is you're feeling. someone has hurt you in a way that is unimaginable to me. something that my heart will never understand. nonetheless, I might call you friend, anon:

we are not so different, you and I.
being a part of the spectrum and general mental defects crowd is a bitch!
look man, I had to go to school with literal retards, some smart enough, some even genius, some malformed and all fucked up. life isn't nothing but a box of chocolates; quit eating the shit ones.

it's a gift, life. words. meaning. thoughts. hearts, heartache. I have a long lost heart with a post-it note for a reward. uh…

I can only diagnose or almost reach you, but I can't touch you.

if you're still ITC, plz respong

 No.252855

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i dont know i wish i could say a million things but it would be like discussing religion on the internet, a lot of text and wouldnt change anyones mind.
to be very brief i felt like i was special, like i had a purpose, that i was supposed to follow a path, and be together with some other people, but i couldnt. i felt very free like no one could imagine, but also as a prisoner.i wanted to show beautiful, incredible things. thats it.
i dont know im very scared of death, i know im here and all these things within me are real but ill die without ever being able to communicate what they are, it will be like none of it ever happened, i just wish i could somehow start over, i wish that immediately after i die ill wake up as myself when i was 5 years old having forgotten that all of this happened so i can try again and do what i think is right. i wish i could have been myself, you wouldnt believe me if i told you everything i can do and everything i can see. i dont know i wish i could express what its like having something that feels bigger than anything else inside you and not being able to share it or pursue its possibilities. i wish i could explain all the things that go on in my mind every instant. i dont know i know theres nothing to be done about it thats why im talking about it. its wasnt my choice that things ended up this way. i dont know i cant find the words to describe what its like. im sorry, i just wish i could start over, i just wanted to live my life and i think i could have been so happy and make others happy. im sorry. im sorry. sorry. sorry.

 No.252856

Lymph node on my neck has swollen to like golf ball size. Got to wait a week or so to see if it fixes itself normally, but maybe this is something that will do me in.

 No.252858

>>252855
If reality is infinite, you or someone close enough to be functionally you with similar enough genes, life patterns and outcomes, is bound to exist again. Best of luck to them, lets hope they make it, are making it or have made it.

 No.252859

>>252858
Infinity means anything can happen, not everything will happen.

So much woowoo bullshit from people not understanding.

 No.252863

>>252855
>>252859
Sooo much woo woo bullshit in this population I'm so sick and tired of it wiz. You have what psychiatrist call vulnerable narcissism. You're not special, just socially inept and upset about it. You can't express what's inside you because there's nothing unusual there, just emotions of discontent from your miserable lonely experiences. You don't need to start over, you need to get over yourself, stop obsessing about being unique and maybe start paying some attention to anyone else's feelings besides your own.

 No.252867

>>252863
>maybe start paying some attention to anyone else's feelings besides your own.
"STOP BEING AN ASSHOLE YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE," said the asshole.

 No.252870

I hate when you have an actual disorder and normies take their own experience of something adjacent to your disorder and try to act like it's the exact same thing. For example normies just say "oh just get to know people better then your social anxiety will go away". I feel social anxiety when interacting with my own family you fucking douchebags.

 No.252871

>>252858
This is why killing yourself is pointless. We're all immortal and trapped for infinity.

 No.252872

>>252870
>normies
You see it even on this site. "Mental illnes is not real dude. That's just a jewish label to take your money.". "You are depressed? That means you're a narcissistic crab, not a real wizard like me.". None of us ever had any access to consciousness that's not our own but people act like they know how everyone think and feel.

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>>252870
It is a disorder just not what you like to think it is.

 No.252876

>>252873
>>252874
Pointing out that the guy posting hysterical rants about how he's supposed to be super Jesus but the world forced him to be a loser in some vague way is a narcissist isn't why people are calling you a retard. That's obvious.
People are calling you a retard for suggesting that the solution to a personality disorder is "get over yourself and start thinking about other peoples' feelings". Your normie dad probably gave you better advice than this where you were 12.

 No.252877

>>252873
This one is vague webmd horseshit

>>252874
This one got me down 100%.

 No.252878

>>252876
Guess he should just try harder to be super jesus then. My mistake. You're right any empathy or decrease in self-obsession is never the answer.

 No.252879

>>252874
I'm a different person not talking about what you're talking about. I just don't like it when normans treat depression and social anxiety disorders like the sadness and social anxiety they experience. I agree with you on the vulnerable narcissism thing. I am one myself.

 No.252880

>>252877
Me too. Well, except for the emotional manipulation bit.

 No.252881

>>252878
Sounds a lot more like schizophrenia than narcissism, honestly.

 No.252882

>>252880
The part that actually struck me was having little interest in the emotions of others, causing an inability to genuinely love.

 No.252883

>>252878
>You're right any empathy or decrease in self-obsession is never the answer.
Telling someone suffering from pathological narcissism (presumably for most or all of their lives) to "just get over yourself" is just as worthless dudebro-tier advice as telling a depressed person to just stop being sad.

 No.252884

>>252883
He didn’t get it the first three times, just stop trying to reason.

 No.252888

>>252873
If someone is exceptionally introverted and shy, well duh, they would be sensitive to criticism and have a neurotic personality. They would also likely experience self-shame and suffer from anxiety/depression/etc.

The narcissistic traits are concentrated in points 4, 7 and 8. You should withhold the narcissism diagnosis until the poster exhibits overt narcissism symptoms, or you might accidentally misclassify shy, lonely and overly sensitive people, who are only preoccupied with their inner experiences for lack of other things going on in their lives.

 No.252890

>>252884
He's not trying to reason he just wants to whine. That "My pain is so special and unique and no one can understand or offer simple advice!" meme gets really old when you pass 30yo. Human emotions aren't a complex enigma and understanding psychology does help. Getting out of your own head and focusing on other people in some constructive way is how you cultivate empathy intellectually and learn about your own toxic behavior. The difference from "just stop being sad"is exterior influence of others. But by all meams brude, sulk, and call everyone that suggests to do anything otherwise a retard. This place really does seem infested with younglings these days.

 No.252891

>>252890
You really showed em with that facebook wojak.

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>>252890
>He's not trying to reason he just wants to whine
There's times for whining and times for fixing. Realistically giving advice over the internet is unreliable; you cannot diagnose anyone's problem from an online post. Especially not personality disorders which are unreliable even when applied in the correct setting with interpersonal relationships as a subject of change.

A wiz can't go to work, come home, crack open a beer, and say "this sucks" anymore. It's only becoming socially acceptable to rage and be angry these days, as if it's any different.

 No.252899

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>>252898
It all sucks, life is stupid but regardless we are here. So I don't see the harm in trying to make the best of it anyways and encouraging other wizards to do the same. There's literally nothing else to do, besides die. I don't recall intentionally trying to maximize suffering being the creed of loners. Humility and self-awareness can make some difference.

 No.252902

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>>252900
Relax you'll get there.

 No.252904

>>252790
Massive imposter syndrome. If you were really as "retarded" as you say you are even just typing out these few paragraphs would be a colossal struggle.

 No.252907

>>252874
Good one to just assume anyone who is depressed and shy is actually an undercover Machiavellian chessmaster toying with people's emotions and has zero capacity for empathy. That is actually gaslighting bullshit, fyi.

 No.252908

I feel like I walked into a 4chad thread. What the fuck happened here?

 No.252912

>>252904
I was being a tad hyperbolic. I meant that I can't engage meaningfully in most discussions on this very website.

 No.252935

>>252874
>>252873
Okay so I'm a piece of shit at my 30.
How do I stop?
>which often stem from childhood mistreatment
Guess I need to kms and hope for better odds next time?

 No.252963

My fucking redneck family is trying to give me the old up by your bootstraps shit.
They've been talking about me for like an hour, about my future and goals.
I wish they'd realize my only goal is to eek out an existence in this shithole and then die. I don't want anything, I don't need anything I just want to rot.
I swear the fucking trauma of being a factory wageslave must be generational because they really try to keep that shit rolling.

 No.252967

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i wish nothing happened in vain, that all human tears ever shed will be forever engraved in the halls of time, that all people who hurt others will one day have to look at everything they have done and that they can apologize from the bottom of their hearts. i wish everyone were free, that everyone could do whatever they want and live in their own worlds without any fear of consequences. i dont know, something like that.

 No.252968

>>252965
29
I achieve wiz status this year. I've told them I plan on getting disability, I'm just building up a case history in therapy first.
But apparently that isn't a good life by their standards.
I don't give a shit about life to begin with, I'm just wasting time until it's over.

 No.252969

>>252963
>I swear the fucking trauma of being a factory wageslave must be generational because they really try to keep that shit rolling.
It's the only way to cope. Lifelong wageslaves need to believe that wasting their entire life putting nuts on tires for eight hours and then coming home to watch television is just what life had to be and not a choice that could've gone differently. The alternative is ending up completely crushed under regret.

 No.252971

Why does anything even exist?

 No.252972

>>252971
Will + Meaning

 No.252975

>>252967
chiggers

 No.252981

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white hole.

 No.252982

>>252981
delete this.

 No.252983

>>252981
I'm glad I got the ending where I kill that monstrous bitch, I refuse to get any other ending.

 No.252984

>>252856
Turns out it has become a large abscess that's gone yellow with the puss trying to explode out. Just an infection I guess. I will see what the doctor says.

 No.252986

>>252907
https://youtu.be/OnSsx8ifAH8
Depends if they take personal accountability or not. Only they know if they truly feel any empathy for others or not. Wanting to be super jesus isn't sincere care for people. It's just egomania.

 No.252987

>>252981
Ah yes, brilliant piece. I quite frankly enjoyed the Bloom ending.

 No.252994

>>252987
Best end 'cause humanity gets destroyed and everyone turns into Lovecraftian monsters. I always love those kind of happy endings.

 No.252997

>>252981
Saya no Uta doesn't actually say anything.

 No.252999

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>>252997
it says many things like being able to see the world differently and what matters is what we are not what we look like and it somehow explains things you could not comprehend and its about overwhelming the world and becoming everything and what does it mean to be crazy, how can we just blackbox some features as craziness and say "thats crazy it just is ok!!" and not try to understand it even though theres a logic to all things. but i guess like a white hole youd be stuck forever in the event horizon and never make it inside. i mean lets suppose you were fuminori but you were never braindamaged, when saya first appeared youd be like youve always been. would you still fall in love with her and support her. id like to think id be able to do that. also it reminds you white dresses are the best. white is the best color even lily satou says so even though shes blind.

i really dont know what to do, should i stay at home and just stare at anime succubi all day and then die, should i answer my calling and go to academia and write things decades ahead of their time, or do i get a cintiq and draw things like the heterochromatic twins drawn by toosaka asagi on a daily basis. i have to choose only one my brain doesnt work like that and it would be inefficient to do many things. i think the first option reflects my hopelessness, the second objectivity, and the third is communication.

in any case i feel like doing something extraordinary. i really cant express how i feel but ill just say i feel an ocean of stuff.

sorry for posting, if i make another post this month go ahead and ban me or give me a warning for spamming.

 No.253000

Feeling so hopeless, not even imageboards and youtube are making me happy anymore. I started to sleep a lot more now, like 10-12 hours a day. Sleep is the only thing that still makes me happy.

 No.253001

>>253000
I likewise have taken the sleepingpill. I've been going to sleep at 6 or 7 in the evening and sleeping 12 hours. If I could I'd make it 18 hours.

 No.253002

>>253000
Cherish it. I feel like my brain is finally catching up to the last corner of enjoyment I have in this world and my sleep has gone down in quality. Some nights I can't sleep at all. I hope it kills me eventually.

 No.253003

I dream too much of the past. Wake up hammered by nostalgia.

 No.253031

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I swear to god, one of these days standing next to the traffic as I usually do I will take a step in front of a semi-trailer or something like that, it will be without thinking, an automatic impulse, almost biological, just take a step towards eternity.

 No.253039

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i wish i could be myself. im different. feels like theres a galaxy of things inside me and i want to show it. i love the world and i love others. i wish i had freedom.
i wish i could express myself. i wish i could start over.

 No.253041

Are there any good drugs that can make it easier to cope with SA?
Been a NEET for a while, used to drink on the job before that.
I've realized I can't stay like this forever, I've got to try something.

I think I'll try going to a shrink. Is this a completely retarded plan?
Using a drug to zombify myself to deal with a job or something and then very slowly trying to get off the drugs?

I really want my own place and to be free.

 No.253042

>>253041
Antipsychotics

 No.253066

>>253039
The Brain— is wider than the Sky—
For— put them side by side—
The one the other will contain
With ease— and you— beside—

The Brain is deeper than the sea—
For— hold them— Blue to Blue—
The one the other will absorb—
As sponges— Buckets— do—

The Brain is just the weight of God—
For— Heft them— Pound for Pound—
And they will differ— if they do—
As Syllable from Sound—

Emily Dickinson, c. 1862.

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 No.253078

>>253041
Propanolol sort of works. The risk of physical dependence with benzos is too high.

 No.253082

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>>252855
>>252346
>>252310
>>252999
>>253039

Gotta say, getting real sick of these early 20s pretentious ass weebs thinking they're some wholly unique 1 in a million individual, tormenting the rest of us with their walls of diarrhea.
Feels like I'm running into these types so often lately, they always gotta attach an anime succubus to their every post or use an anime succubus avatar and typically are thinking of transitioning into a tranny or already in the process.

I honestly wish there was some way to really enforce a 30+ only rule to this website. These delusions about uniqueness can only be held by a young mind, living long enough will ensure this world will crush any self delusions out of you.

 No.253083

>>253082
There's not a lot of them, it's a few people who just post a ton.

 No.253098

>>253082
nobody reads this guy's (?) words salad tbh

 No.253099

>>253083
I know that's probably the same poster. I'm mostly just ranting due to an influx of those types of people showing up all across the internet lately and seeing them pop up on wizchan of all places just pisses me off more.

 No.253100

>>253082
That guy is clearly VERY mentally ill.

 No.253102

>>253100
if he was very mentally ill, he would be unintelligible. He's just a depressed fuck with too much time on his hands and a penchant for anime and the dramatic. I don't mind him using wizchan as a blog though, everyone needs someone to talk to, even if that someone is the void that is wizchan.

 No.253105

>>253098
>>253099
>>253083
>>253100
>>253102
I agree. All the depressed fucks should leave /dep/, the depression board.

 No.253108

>>253105
The only post remotely suggesting he should stop or leave is >>253082

 No.253109

>>253108
You all wouldn't mind if he did, though.

 No.253114

>>253099
I've noticed the quality of the posts has dropped even further. It went from a quality board to being garbage spewed on twitter all day.

 No.253115

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>>253114
Suffering through shitposts is never without aim or purpose. It makes us stronger or richer in experiences. Without suffering through shitposts life would be boring.

 No.253117

>>253109
I honestly love reading his unfiltered schizo thoughts and the waifus are pretty.

 No.253118

>>253115
Fucking 10/10.

 No.253119

>>253117
Agreed, but I suppose they prefer the walls of diarrhea currently up on display in the /lounge/ politics thread, rather than the self-obsessive schizophrenia-flavored anime-style kind. Different strokes, I guess.

 No.253120

>>253082
I like them.

 No.253140

>>251943
I haven't seen anything so I doubt that

>>252050
Also wrong

 No.253141

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>>253082
Agreed and it's refreshing to see someone else noticing how rampant it is these days. Te internet is full of these kinds of mentalities now because society is so narcissistic it's multi-generational. Too many self-important young adults terrified of the fact that they are completely ordinary and typical. You know they say statistically genetically we all have atleast 7 doppelgangers on the planet currently. Our exact physical appearance isn't even unique. Healthy adults can live with this fact without freaking out or sulking.

 No.253142

>>252935
https://youtu.be/D60s_zyLeu4
Understand you have the capability to change your behavior if you want to.

 No.253143

>>253142
>narcissist
again? fuck off

 No.253145

>>253141
Is narcissism really that bad?

 No.253146

>>253145
Notions of bad and good are subjective and opinionated it's about understanding why people are the way they are and what they are motivated by mentally. Narcissism is all about seeking validation, admiration, and attention, its how they define themselves, lack of genuine empathy for others, entitlement and obsession with being "special". I'm just pointing out this personality type is a major cause of social dysfunction in humanity these days. A product and consequence of opulent luxury civilization, abundance and overpopulation. Everyone knows the Universe 25 experiment with the mice right? This is just one of many results from the human equivalent happening in real time.

 No.253147

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>>253145
I might say what's happening to our species is bad but to the squirrels and foxes in the forest they might think it's great.

 No.253150

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>>253147
>FB_IMG
I hate this imageboard. Kill yourself.
NOW.
>>253146
Blow it out your ass.
>>253142
>>253141
Drivel.

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 No.253166

Waking up is the most disappointing part of the day.

 No.253167

>>253082
You may have a point but I don't mind that guy writing his rants here. Anyway that's the point of these threads.

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 No.253177

The socialisation procedure that I participated in was insufficient. My parents have the blood of peasants and it shows in the choices and decisions that they have made. I can feel this blood within me, contaminating my spirit and yet my mind is urging me to rebel against this ancestry. It is not just them but an entire apparatus that has grown from the stunted minds of people like this, and this mind was contaminating my own. The body urges me to stay and my mind urges me to go. In this way, through all the inner turmoil, very little is achieved.

 No.253182

>>251778
in what fucking world is eating an apple god specifically told you not to consume an allegory for agriculture?

 No.253186

Today on the drive back home from work I almost died twice. First I almost crashed into an urban train while overtaking a slow car, second I almost crashed into a tree on the road. Too bad I didn't finish the job. It felt liberating.

 No.253189

>Realization how bleak life is hits again before bed

 No.253190

>>253182
It’s the fruit of knowledge. Agriculture is the point when man went from being dependent on nature to harnessing it for his own means. Though I doubt some goatfuckers 3000 years ago had that in mind.

 No.253191

>>253186
You would either damage your car and other people's property with little injuries to yourself or get a non-lethal injury that may cripple you.

 No.253193

>>253191
Crashing into a train would be a one way ticket to gensokyo.

 No.253197

>>253193
what the hell is gensokyo? dumbass weeb

 No.253199

>>253197
You're not a wizard. Get out of here.

 No.253201

>>253199
anime is crab shit and pedo shit centered around the adulation of fictional females in the creepiest way possible, go away weeb.

 No.253202

>>253199
>if you don't coonsoom weeb shit like a good 4shit zoomer then you're not a wizard

 No.253203

>>253201
>>253202
Gensokyo is a shibboleth. You are not wizards.

 No.253204

>>253203
it is a shibboleth, but it's one thats used among succubi-obsessed weebs, touhou is an anime succubus factory for weebs to jerk off too. consoomers like yourself aren't wizardly

 No.253206

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>>253204
>anime isn't wizardly and is consoomerism
…why are you posting here? Did all the MGTOW/trad society imageboards get taken down?
No seriously, you're obviously not a wizard, why???

 No.253207

>>253206
he is absolutely right, anime is consumerism garbage no better than hollywood movies made for the lowest common denominator.

 No.253208

>>253206
>anime is wizardly
Maybe it was in 1999, but not now, literally every normalfag is a weeb, hell some of the most normalfaggot successful people I've ever known were hardcore weebs, with girlfriends and such.

If you like anime that's fine, but it isn't wizardly anymore, in fact I would trust someone who hates anime because at least is not a retarded sheep following normal trends.

 No.253211

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>>253208
I'd agree that an interest in anime is no longer valuable as a litmus test for normalfaggotry; however, you err in your assessment of the popularity of anime/manga among normals. Specifically, you err in thinking that popular Shonen Jump titles and their adaptations are on equal footing with SOL/CGDCT shows with moe elements. If you set aside the fact that NORPs will only watch what's popular–and by corollary, watered down, since mainstream success relies on appealing to the lowest common denominator–and observe how the everyday person reacts with aversion to the things which hardcore otaku love, you will come to the conclusion that hating anime–or at least, hating what makes anime unique–is still quite popular in the West.

So you can't suss out normalfags on the basis of their watching habits because anime is so ubiquitous that even they've caught on, BUT they're only drawn to surface-level stuff and the "unsavory" elements gross them out. And to address the other guy's point: of course it's consumerist in nature, and of course it's quite blatant in trying to get at your wallet–it's an industry where the producers are constantly struggling to break even. Where it triumps over the west is in its (avowed) interest in customer satisfaction. I don't play vidya at all but the crux of many gamers' discontent with the industry seems to revolve around the lack of regard which companies have for their original, core userbase.

For years I've heard about many games cutting content which is now considered "sexist", or backwards. Identity politics and revisionism have found their way into these escapist hobbies, which were once a bastion for outcasts and wizardly types. The open contempt for us is enough to make you sick. Such an attitude toward the people buying your products doesn't fly in Japan (most of the time, at least) which is why we get weird, wonderful, and at times incredibly niche things like lolicon/BL fanservice and oppai mousepads and rampant military gear fetishism and schoolgirls sniffing their own feet and shows which are a mishmash of tropes thrown into a blender (Gunbuster is one famous example). They know what otaku want. They play on the expectations of what otaku want. They're still keyed into what makes for a good story (in the eyes of otaku).

The fact that the MCU rakes in billions of dollars at the box office doesn't mean people aren't making experimental arthouse films in their own little corner, divorced from the mainstream. If you ever find yourself thinking anime/manga is one big garbage heap, then just remember that Sturgeon's law is in effect at all times and in all domains. 90% of the books you see in stores are YA drek, 90% of the music floating around on Soundcloud or Bandcamp is uninspired and derivative, etc. Otaku are quite serious about their passions, and rarely settle for substandard products. They are connoisseurs and look beyond popular trends when assessing the value of media, which is the antithesis of the normalfag sheeple mindset.

 No.253214

>>253211
>Specifically, you err in thinking that popular Shonen Jump titles and their adaptations are on equal footing with SOL/CGDCT shows with moe elements.

You're wrong again, reddit loves that kind of stuff, even worse, trannies love that stuff too, the Moe, the headpats and all that shit, in fact I believe that a part of why they want to become females is because of that stuff.

Also moeshit and CGDCT shit is as mainstream as it goes, almost every show is that kind nowadays.

Accept it, your hobby degenerated into normalfaggotry, it happened countless times before, hell these days even more obscure and fucked up shit that used to be more niche like eroge)VN's is full of normalfags thanks to DDLC and steam.

It's truly over.

 No.253215

>>253214
It's over if you have a room temperature IQ

 No.253216

>>253215
Share your magnificent wisdom with us then.

 No.253218

>>253214
>observe how the everyday person reacts with aversion to the things which hardcore otaku love
> you will come to the conclusion that hating anime–or at least, hating what makes anime unique–is still quite popular in the West.
Normalfags are masturbating to incest hentai and traps and other degenerate things, they're not reacting with "aversion". There's no aversion to anime not even to porn. A silly argument.

 No.253219

>>253218
Then go down to the bar or a nightclub and start rambling to the normalfags about incest, hentai traps and lolicon. I'm sure they'll welcome you. Moron.

 No.253220

>>253214
>Reddit loves that kind of stuff
>even worse, trannies love that stuff too, the Moe
>the Moe
I'll stop here since it seems you don't know what you're talking about at all.

 No.253221

>>253219
Don't be a retard, if you start talking about porn and sexual fetishes openly people will be grossed out, not because they're not normal (they are) but because that shit is not appropriate to talk about in public.

If you think your shitty hobbies are not mainstream already youre deluded, especially when the entry bar is so low.

>>253220
>Semantics as argument
Top IQ wiz right there.

 No.253222

>>253221
Semantics as a means to filter out some clueless retard who has signaled his ignorance by misusing such basic terms.

 No.253223

>>253222
Still no argument I see, if you have to resort to such dumb tactics to feel like you win then its truly over for you.

 No.253225

>>253221
he thinks he is special for liking anime. He should accept anime is just a normalfag medium and mainstream and move on, but it's part of his identity.

 No.253226

>>253223
Surface-level anime is popular with normalfags, so it is mainstream in a sense (and that's where I agree with you), and yet the core of the medium is still geared towards pleasing otaku. Wizards and shut-ins tend to gravitate towards being otaku. Despite its mainstream success abroad, the popularity of anime hasn't changed what creators in Japan do to any sufficient degree. If you're so insistent that Reddit and "the trannies" are enamored with niche stuff, then why don't you prove it by showing us something quantitative? You could compare the number of upvotes and replies which threads on certain shows get. You could go on a database like MAL and see what genre of show consistently makes it into the top 100.

You have not done any of that because you are lazy and simply want to push unsubstantiated claims and write off anime as a whole. Notice how you only addressed one part of my post while disregarding the rest.
>>253225
I guess you can't like movies or books either. Normalfags have their hands all over those, right?

 No.253227

>>253219
>he thinks the people who consume most porn and hentai aren't normalfags
how do traps became so popular, ever wondered? It's because normalfags like it, no other reason than that.
>>253226
It's stupid to claim that because the "otaku" like something is not normalfag in taste. The otaku also like idols, is that wizardly in your eyes? Why try to lie to yourself when it's nothing close to the truth.
The core of anime is geared towards selling a product, for the lowest common denominator, whatever a big demographic of japanese like and will consume.

 No.253228

>>253216
You're dumb, I'm at least as dumb, it's not worth arguing about random dumb stuff with other weirdos on a site full of virgins

 No.253229

>>253227
>how do traps became so popular, ever wondered?

Not him, but do you want a real answer to that?

 No.253230

>>253211
It's fine to enjoy any popular entertainment such as anime, movies, vidya, porn, hentai etc in moderation but they are absolutely normalfag coonsumer bait now that mostly fry your brain into childish fantasy goo. Sorry to break your delusion of uniqueness.

 No.253231

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I hate wageslaving every day for this disgusting coonsumer society. There should be a simpler alternative way to survive in this social structure for non-materislistic wizards. Idgaf about money, social status, buying useless shit or eating junk food.

 No.253232

>>253230
When did he ever say anything about being "unique"?

 No.253233

>>253232
Watching anime is now normalfag shit and therefore common, widespread and not a unique/niche hobby or activity to wizards. Do you need a dictionary definition of unique?

 No.253234

>>253233
Re-read the post. I never denied that normalfags watched anime.

 No.253248

>>253226
I never said that you can't like what normalfags like dumbass, contrary to what the other retard implies I DO watch anime, and I like vidya, but I don't delude myself into thinking that those hobbies are inherently wizardly, I'm fully aware that pretty much every normalfag out there shares the same hobbies as me, yet I don't give a shit, those hobbies are not a core part of my personality and I refuse to be defined by them.

In fact if you're so insecure as to define yourself by what your hobbies are that's an extremely normalfag attitude, they're not X person with X personality, they are x fans or consoomers of X thing, that's what defines them as people of certain tribe, I'm sorry I'm not sheep to be defined one dimensionally like that.

Sorry to break your delusion but you're not special, your hobbies are not a special niche anymore.

 No.253249

>>253233
they were watching anime even back in the mid 2000s. it's just that it only recently became socially acceptable to be publicly interested in such hobbies. i don't think it was ever truly limited to wizards

 No.253252

>>253248
>I'm sorry I'm not sheep to be defined one dimensionally like that
Well, it's good that you base your delusions of uniqueness on less shakey ground. I will reiterate that I don't feel special in anyway and have repeatedly acknowledged the fact that anime (most of it) isn't as niche as it used to be. Even though we agree on the important things (anime and manga are more popular than ever) it just feels like you have some bone to pick, you keep harping on about being "special" and keep veering the argument towards that. This seems like a personal problem. Did something I say set you off?

I had a reply written out where I also clarified that I was not arguing over whether anime was or was not "wizardly" (completely different argument, by the way) but my computer crashed in the midst of sending it.

All I can say is, if your aim in getting into the hobby is to discuss it in the West then sure, it's "over" as one guy said in the most vague way possible. There's a different kind of fan patronizing online forums and conventions and crowding out the old kind of Western anime fan. That doesn't mean I can't just enjoy it in private, like most people here do. The only way I can see anime "degenerating into normalfaggotry" is if all the niche stuff somehow disappears overnight.

 No.253257

Geek has been dead for a while. They all own that shit now.

 No.253265

>>253262
>>253264
you didn't mention who this was quoted from

 No.253267

>>253265
don't delete your posts.
LOOK AT ME WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU

 No.253271

I've accepted that my depression is simply a natural and healthy response to the state of the world right now. It's not going to go away unless I become delusional or hopped up on drugs.

 No.253273

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>>253271
This realization is correct wiz.

There's so much gaslighting surrounding the fact that most people in a matter-of-fact condition are living a miserable loveless, abused, lonely, boring life so feeling sad/angry, depressed, miserable is a natural and understandable emotional reaction to said experience.

Our body releases cortisol when we feel lonely to cause stress to motivate us to group up to hunt/gather to survive. It's not supposed to feel alright to be isolated and uncertain especially over prolonged time frames or indefinitely.

We are genetically evolved as advanced apes to be social and mate for survival regardless of how we think, feel, and have been conditioned, intellectually about the cesspool human society and human behavior has become. I'm not saying there's any solution to this nor suggesting any. I'm just say pragmatically how most depressed people feel about their life experience and situation makes sense and to deny it is kinda insane and defies natural law.

Made up civilization and culture of a few thousand years is unnatural to how our brains evolved to function for millions of years. It's probably only going to get worse in our lifetime. How humans live now is fake and sick, full of nonsense ideas and bullshif so it's no surprise so many feel sick and most of the rest are just delusional/oblivious.

 No.253274

>>253271
Your problem is that you define any worldview that doesn't involve fatalistic self-flagellation as "delusional". Plenty of people are able to live happy, meaningful lives in today's society. Of course if you make a willful choice that you're going to refuse to be happy because you feel as though it's not "realistic" to live without pain, you're going to die a miserable sad failure.

 No.253277

>>251791
Just poison the bloody dogs lol

 No.253295

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ok i think im going to do it. cross my mental rubicon. dive into my own mind and see how deep it goes. shut down the external world completely and only listen to the within, live inside myself. id rather make wrong decisions and deal with the consequences than let others decide the best for me, i want to try that once. everything is completely new, i feel like walking through the door to a different dimension or a different universe it feels like the star gate sequence from 2001. i wish i could express everything i can see and everything i feel, i feel like being "myself" for the first time in my life and really not knowing how people will see me and what theyll think of me. i feel like walking off a precipice with my eyes closed, i feel falling at a high speed and knowing if i dont magically learn how to fly before i reach the ground ill splatter into strawberry jelly.
practically speaking… should i get a cintiq it will take some two or three years before i can put out interesting things, not boring portraits or other things everyone has done already. i promise youll go wow, and ill say something like "this only proves i can copy and i grasp the basics its not really `my` art yet" and after many years ill have the time to dedicate myself more to drawing and then ill finally show you some of what i can see. but even just putting out ordinary things will take some time at first because i have to compare a lot of drawings and know the ins and outs of the hardware and the software, i have to combine colors and brushes and read so many books. im a perfectionist and while some people might take only two or three hours to start and complete a drawing i might take a whole week. i dont know. thats assuming i can get a cintiq right now theres negligible chance i could get one and yet im betting a lot on that chance.
academically its going to take even longer to show results, it takes 10 years to go from a bs to a phd, i want to spend many long years in silence just reading treatises and practicing exercises and learning all sorts of things, but eventually ill be a paper writing machine and cause an upheaval in every area i touch. then, also, i will be able to show what i can see, and not just that but making practical contributions because i love the earth and everyone walking on it. the rain drops running down the leaves and the lady bugs drinking it, the city beggars with snow and dirt under their fingernails, the families having breakfast in the suburbs.
i will put my everything into what i do, i wont make compromises, and ill talk through acts. im never posting an image i didnt draw again, and ill never state an opinion that is not my own again. i think ill faill but im going to try it. there are so many things that could go wrong. i ask god to give me a chance and please let me go through a peaceful and stable period. i hope my studies wont be interrupted by tragedy or anything like that, i could go homeless the world could end there are many things that could happen i just hope i can make it, i hope it all depends on me and not on external factors not in my control, god knows how much im afraid something might go wrong and i have to abort everything again. i just need time and stability and i think ill be able to answer my calling and ill be free.
i think im capricornian after all, i used to think maybe i was actually born in february or march but it makes more sense now, the lonely climbing goat unseen in the mist of some snowy mountain ever more nearing peak but never quite reaching it.
i dont know im very scared i think something went very wrong something not supposed to happen did and thats why im here saying these things. sorry for making a post. sorry.

 No.253333

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>>253295
portraits can be interesting, too. i think it's important to have a well rounded taste in art. not just anime, which is a form of cartooning, but having a good knowledge of all the different art movements throughout history. absorbing a wide range of influences is key in developing a wide range of expression.
>should i get a cintiq
if you have money to burn, if not and you really really want to do digital painting then a screenless tablet works fine, seen plenty of masters work on those. pen, pencil, charcoal and paper can get you very far though
>two or three hours to start a drawing
the thing about that is these people have been drawing for quite a while. muscle memory and a large visual library expedites the process of drawing. about a year ago it still took me days of concentration to finish one fucking drawing. when i was looking up my favorite artists, and i'm talking respected geniuses in the anime/manga industry, the one constant i find is that they drew like mad as children. they copied their favorite characters and they drew from life a lot. a kid can get pretty far in ways that an adult can't by just banging out drawing after drawing without any self-doubt, but as an adult you can study smart.
>eventually ill be a paper writing machine
i look forward to seeing your Great Revolution, wiz. ganbatte
>capricornian
huh? what's so special about people born in february and march?

and anyway, judging from how many times you've restated yourself in similar ways over many posts, it seems you're trying to get at something transcendental here. you reign over your internal empire, if it is a beautiful place like you say it is then do share it with the world; it doesn't have to be in a conventional way, maybe you can write poetry or make photo collages or something experimental and raw. you can process and even convey these really-hard-to-express feelings in an oblique way by using art.

 No.253334

Was having a wank there and came across a depressing video.
https://www. erome .com/a/auTI7PkW
It's the sixth video down.

 No.253371

I wish I could stop returning to this cesspit. I am sick of humanity. I hate humanity. I hate life. I want nothing to do with any of this. I just want to sleep for all eternity. I hate this existence. I hate it so much. I'm sick of it. I feel physically ill from it. It feels like being suffocated slowly. I'm drowning in this morass of clowns and busybodies. Nothing is at all interesting. It is all garbage. If I make something it will be adding to the garbage. Just a big pile of trash. The only things worth looking at are the scribblings of those who recognize it's a trash pile. So damn annoying this life. I hate it. I hate the clout chasers. I hate the nudging and the justifications. I hate the need and the entropy. I hate the repetition. I hate the novelty. I hate all of it. There is nothing worthwhile here. I hope everyone is wiped out so I can be alone. When I am truly alone I am no longer lonely. I hate you I hate you I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate YOU. Garbage world garbage. Hopefully I go to bed tonight and don't wake up. Fuck you all. Fuck humanity fuck humanity and all life. Cruel situation, consciousness and perception. Death please release me from this

have a nice day

 No.253374

>>253274
>wizchan 2022

 No.253375

Being retarded sucks.

 No.253377

>>252486
same wiz same

 No.253378

I already know life is shit, I just want something to do with my time, its the not having anything to do and hours of empty time that fucks with me. I think if i work some job it will help pass the time then after work i'll smoke weed until the next day. Really don't understand how anyone can act like life is good its just horrible all around. you have to be stupid, honjestly.

 No.253379

>>252832
smoke weed wiz thats what i do. the main reason i smoke is to change things up because i just sit in a chair all day can't stand it.

 No.253380

>>253379
Weed can only do so much.

 No.253381

>>252870
i have anxiety with anyone. i dont even keep friends because i have too much anxiety.

 No.253383

>>252904
this, everyone who claims on wizchan they are retarded usually types some long detailed post out. Clearly they aren't retarded.

 No.253384

>>252968
Neither do i but i suggest you at least try your "best". ruminating about it just leads to more depression

 No.253385

>>252971
its a bad reason if anything. most likely things just evolved over time and everything is pointless and all beings are selfish and out for their own self interest

 No.253387

>>253166
this, the day slowly becomes more bearable as it goes on. but mornings are the worst.

 No.253388

>>253387
used to be like this for me but not anymore, now it's the other way around, I get increasingly anxious as it's near time to go to bed, because my sleep quality is so bad and I have weird dreams all the time

 No.253389

>>253271
So you are just going to lie down and take it in the ass like a submissive bitch from the world and life? Where is that manly intellect and courage which strives best under harsh conditions? You give up without even a fight. Weak.

>>253274
Most people here are still in their nihilistic existential crisis phase. You have to experience the worst and go through hell before the sun rises. It was after my worst period of pessimism and depression that I finally became an optimist and found the strength to laugh in the face of the world and all its shit.

 No.253393

>>253389
>You have to experience the worst and go through hell before the sun rises
Things don't work like that, sister. There's zero logic behind that.
>It was after my worst period of pessimism and depression that I finally became an optimist
>became an optimist
You became delusional, that's what you became.

 No.253394

>>253389
Oh great the succubus is here to tell everyone to just man up.

 No.253396

>>253393
Things do work like that. You don't know what true despair or suffering is. Otherwise you would know it is just stupid to do what people here do, to wrap yourself up in your shit all day and then act surprised when you aren't happy.
>delusional
This is your problem, you reject even the possbility of a happy life. Well, enjoy your lethargy then. I'm sure it will get you many good things.

>>253394
What now, everyone is a succubus who doesn't hate life? This board is so hopeless.

 No.253397

>>253396
>this board is so hopeless
YES, IT IS THE DEPRESSION BOARD, A LACK OF HOPE IS QUITE COMMON

 No.253399

>>253274
your problem is you project all sorts of shit that's not in someone's post onto them

 No.253402

>>253397
Why are you shouting? Are you angry someone pointed out that the possibility of escape is real? People here just love misery, they don't want to get better at all.

>>253400

>green text mumbojumbo
>go back
You are insulting at this point. Try to make a coherent reply with actual sentences and logic and maybe we can have a decent discussion.

 No.253405

>>253402
>optimist "just be le happy" is asking for a coherent reply
You must go back.

 No.253410

>>253400
A lot of people have this whole "HAPPINESS IS EVERYTHING IN LIFE" cult. I've met two kinds:
1 - "Happiness" mean something THAT IS NOT FUCKING HAPPINESS. And they play this huge fucking word game in their head to maintain it. To them, STATUS is everything, and SAYING that you're happy means that you're high status.
2 - They don't think at all about what they're saying. They're too stupid to be depressed.

 No.253483

>>253410
You can be conscious of how much suffering is in the world and be happy at the same time. In fact, true happiness and optimism is only possible if you do know the true nature of this world.

 No.253488

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ok heres the plan.
i should get a cintiq 24 between march and august. thats assuming ill be able to afford it. the price paid will be financial safety and food security. but id pay with my organs if i had to, id sell a lung, a kidney, my liver and half of my lifespan, i want to draw that much.
at first ill probably just pour over everything ive bottled up in my life. i love impressionism. the arcadian, bucolic and pastoral ideals. probably come to draw a lot of british and russian landscapes. a succubus by a brook surrounded by the forest's animals, or standing in an field of dandelions that stretches to the setting sun, or sinking into a sea of comb jellies, and such things. also have a hard on for military and police things. theres a lot of things i want to draw i have an entire sketchbook of things i want to draw. from the degenerate and perverted to kaleidoscopes and murals, the subtle and the explicit. i dont know most of all i want to communicate and make others happy, i hope that for each drawing i make at least one person will look at it and that will make their day just a tiny bit better.
also at first i wont have that much time to draw. this year i have to study for an university entrance exam its supposedly the best uni in my continent but anyways and spend at least ten years studying. besides taking a lot of classes ill also have to learn others things by myself. some 4 human languages, some 12 programming languages, the ins and outs of linux, im installing debian but i should have an old spare computer to tinker with slackware gentoo lfs and all that. cubical type theory, arithmetic geometry, homotopy type theory and such things. i want to become an expert in cryptology and this takes a lot of practice and patience. also i like all of mathematics and physics and computer science. i want to read classical books, you know k&r the feynman lectures the encyclopedia of computer networks and such books. so ill be studying a large personal curriculum in addition to the university curriculum and drawing. there will be no time for things like eroge i wish i had enjoyed them more. i wish i couldve had a normal childhood where i could have spent time pursuing these things, by now i would be over a decade ahead in my life.
anyways after a long time if everything goes well i should be able to dig deeper into art, with more time, past the surface, look at it more impersonally, and then really distinguish myself and not be just another guy, but it will take many years.
at some later point in my life i want to also study music in depth and compose, right now i like j-trance and modernists (sibelius rvw etc) dont know what ill like in 10 years.
then spend the rest of my life trying to contribute, through articles and post-docs, or work somewhere important.
right now i dont wish i could start over just that ill make through this period.
i dont know im forsaking myself the right to write long walls of text, and i wont shill my drawings around, or talk about anything really except very technical matters, and basically from now on ill stop fooling around and just be myself instead. "the cryptanalyst’s attitude must be that of william the silent: no need to hope in order to undertake, nor to succeed in order to persevere." gen. marcel givierge.
i dont know sorry for posting. sorry. sorry.

 No.253489

>>253204
>oomer
I can guarantee you're less of a wizard than anyone you've ever called out for that, judging by your use of infantile normalcattle buzzwords.

 No.253499

>>253498
I don't care if that "idea" is being rejected. The problem is that you're a hypocrite attempting to lecture anyone on wizardry while being infantile and impressionable enough to adopt completely brainless slang manufactured by underage reprobates on 4chan (who were also diaspora from other websites). Using "we" as if you speak for anyone other than the hivemind that spawned the lingo you're spewing is disingenuous. Absolutely no one who uses "-oomer" as a suffix is a wizard.

 No.253503

>>253371
Relatable post. Expresses how I feel most every day. I enjoyed reading it

 No.253508

>>253489
>Semantics as argument
Top IQ wiz right there.

 No.253509

>>253488
go outside

 No.253510

>>253488
>cintiq 24
That looks expensive as shit, why not start with a basic tablet? You don't need expensive crap to keep drawing stop believing pixiv memes

 No.253513

>>253510
you wouldnt understand because you're not special. sorry.

 No.253521

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>>253066
he rises and begins to round,
a press of hurried notes that run
so fleet they scarce are more than one,
sweet to the quick o the ear, and dear
a song of light, and pierces air
an ecstasy to music turnd,
unthinking save that he may give
his voice the outlet, there to live
renewd in endless notes of glee,
so thirsty of his voice is he,
for all to hear and all to know
that he is joy, awake, aglow,
the tumult of the heart to hear
through pureness filterd crystal clear,
and know the pleasure sprinkled bright
by simple singing of delight,
shrill, irreflective, unrestraind,
too freshly sweet to seem excess,
too animate to need a stress,
awakening, as it waxes thin,
the best in us to him akin;
and every face to watch him raisd,
so rich our human pleasure ripes
when sweetness on sincereness pipes
though nought be promisd from the seas,
but only a soft ruffling breeze
sweep glittering on a still content,
serenity in ravishment

for singing till his heaven fills,
t is love of earth that he instils,
our valley is his golden cup,
and he the wine which overflows
to lift us with him as he goes
he is, the hills, the human line,
the better heart of men shall see,
shall feel celestially, as long
as you crave nothing save the song.
was never voice of ours could say
our inmost in the sweetest way,
like yonder voice aloft, and link
all hearers in the song they drink:
our wisdom speaks from failing blood,
our passion is too full in flood,
we want the key of his wild note
of truthful in a tuneful throat,
the song seraphically free
of taint of personality,
so pure that it salutes the suns
the voice of one for millions,
in whom the millions rejoice
for giving their one spirit voice.

yet men have we, whom we revere,
yield substance, though they sing not, sweet
because their love of earth is deep,
so touching purest and so heard
in the brain’s reflex of yon bird;
wherefore their soul in me, or mine,
through self forgetfulness divine,
in them, that song aloft maintains,
to fill the sky and thrill the plains
as he to silence nearer soars,
extends the world at wings and dome,
till lost on his aerial rings
in light, and then the fancy sings.

 No.253532

Nothing is real

 No.253533

Guys I have been thinking about this lately. In life we are suffering because are instant gratifications are not being met. We perceive we need these things when truely we only need food and water to survive. I am trying to not give into self indulgent things and challenge myself daily. We aren't going to get satisfaction from petty materialistic things.

 No.253535

>>253508
You don't know what semantics are. If you call out someone for something, then you'd better hope you aren't guilty of it yourself. Exporting the low-quality, infantile memespeak you took from normalcattle websites and then knowingly trying to undermine Wizchan with it is the diametric opposite of wizardly.

 No.253536

>>253535
Still no argument I see, if you have to resort to such dumb tactics to feel like you win then its truly over for you.

 No.253539

>>253536
An argument for what exactly? I'm telling you what you are, I don't need to argue for anything. There comes a point where people become disillusioned with every website being subversively infested with babified slang that mutilates the quality of any given thread.

 No.253540

>>253539
You're dumb, I'm at least as dumb, it's not worth arguing about random dumb stuff with other weirdos on a site full of virgins

 No.253731

i really wish i don't get up from sleep tonight

 No.253760

>>253731
I was wishing for that for a long time and now I just can't fall asleep in the first place.

 No.253773

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ok.
theres a tiny chance ill order a cintiq on the 20th. then it should take a week to arrive.
ive replanned things and now i think ill just draw until im 25 so drawing every day as a hiki for over a year. just wake up draw eat and sleep until im 25. then start learning everything i want to learn. which is undergraduate math cs and physics. and some masters areas like ai and other research topics. also a lot of programming languages and things about computers. then languages and music. it should take until im like 40 to learn everything. in the meanwhile i should work as an artist and as the years pass ill be able to take more jobs.
im not ggoing to college i can learn on my own im better at learning reading books on my own than lectures. i can prove what i know like i could hack and leave a message saying maybe you need a cybersec guy like me.
so ill never leave my home again im going to be a hiki for life. maybe at some point ill have to move to a different place or even a country. but ill always stay indoors with computers for the rest of my life. and i think thats awesome im very lucky tere are people who have to go out every day. i dont get people dont know how to have a conversation its very tiresome for me.
ill post again on the 20th. ill just study anatomy until then. and i have a lot of projct ideas today i didnt even study much anatomy because i just spent the day thinking about kyara setteis and that sort of thing its fun.

 No.253774

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i just mean i dont know whether ill make through this period. ive been sleeping more calmly because i finally have a plan but my life is so unstable and so much hangs by a thread. i dont know how far ill get. my life could end tomorrow for all i know. im afraid. i wish to live at least another 23 years to be honest. im afraid. i hope things like social collapse or mom getting sick wont happen any time soon. sorry.

 No.253775

>>253774
>>253773
avatarfagging chiggers

 No.253880

How do I stop comparing myself to others? A big part of why I feel depressed is because I constantly compare myself to everyone else, people who were in a worse position than me 3 or 4 years ago got much better than me while I stagnated, thinking about it objectively I don't have a bad life by any measure, yet I feel bad if I compare it to others.

Any advice?

 No.253883

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>>253773
>>253774
Is erogebro our own Terry A Davis in the making?

 No.253893

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I lay on the bed and stare at the ceiling, and as I feel despair thinking about all of the things that I must do, I ask myself:

"What do I want to do?"

Once again I do this, knowing that the answer is always the same, one that reflects the empty shell my body has become since my soul left it so many years ago, I can't help but wonder what I'm waiting for before finally letting this decaying body follow that soul, and just die.

I think about all of the things I could try doing, maybe sleeping? I do find it comfortable to stay in bed, physically at least, but sleeping is scary, time goes by so fast as deadlines and obligations get closer, I want to take my time before it flies past me like this.

Well, I suppose staying awake is the answer, and I do find it comfortable to stay awake at night, the world outside feels so much more calm, but how should I spend my time? I feel no excitement when doing things, so I don't have any more desires to start anything.

I feel that no matter where I turn my head to, in search of an answer, all I find is either sadness, anger or emptiness, it's almost like those are the only things I can still feel, and it tires my dead body out, but I can't tire myself out too much, I have all night ahead.

So I go back to square one, as my boredom eats me up, and the passage of time brings me despair, with obligations getting so much closer:

"What do I want to do?"

 No.253896

>>253893
Strange to think you'd get more support and understanding from depressed people by crossposting on /r9k/, rather than wizchan's /dep/.

 No.253899

>>253896
/r9k/ nowadays is an odd place, and at times I don't feel particularly welcome there in its current state, but when making an OP that's obviously depressive, it tends to keep things more focused and seems closer to /dep/ overall, just more active, which is helpful when I'm starved for attention.

 No.253906

I wonder if there is a way I can sucker my parents into doing something stupid so I can sue the shit out of them. My dad constantly threatens me physically and my mom constantly threatens to destroy my property.

 No.253950


 No.254002

Why is it that a normal person can take productivity drugs like adderall/modafinil and work 12 hours nonstop but when I take them I just feel anxiety and sweat a lot?

 No.254034

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everything sucks and I don't know why

 No.254160

>>254034
the maze shifts as you move through it, because it is alive.

 No.254249

>>253893
Nicely written. I feel a sense of peace late at night because it's almost like a kind of voidspace where everything is frozen in time. The sun has set and it's too late to do anything today. I've been absolved of the sins which haunt me during the normie hours. My responsibilities, insecurities, anxieties are all put on hold as I can finally just -exist- in this beautiful void between life and death.

If only this could last forever. Well…I suppose it could…I suppose….


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