>found a bunch of memory training books in the deep web,so far it may work
>Be terrified/have contempt of blue collar jobs
Im 26,i may live to 80,a uni study is 4 years. Does it be worth it? Is there even a point in earning money(trough work)?
>Be terrified/have contempt of blue collar jobs
Im 26,i may live to 80,a uni study is 4 years. Does it be worth it? Is there even a point in earning money(trough work)?
>>251980
Is it?
As i said ill only sign up for uni once im sure i have proffesor X level memory. Ill train for a year(2022)
I live in a third world country so getting a well paying job is super important.
>Anyways i will have super neetbux once my parents die
I dont want to-wait-until they die,tho.
Is it?
As i said ill only sign up for uni once im sure i have proffesor X level memory. Ill train for a year(2022)
I live in a third world country so getting a well paying job is super important.
>Anyways i will have super neetbux once my parents die
I dont want to-wait-until they die,tho.
Hell no. The purpose of university is to train you to be a good obedient normalfag. It doesn't matter how smart you are or how good your memory is, if you're not willing to dedicate your soul to inane social rituals and sacrifice huge chunks of your life for the sake of appeasing your superiors you are going to be miserable and do mediocre at best.
>>251985
How DARE you even ask that?
I look down on proles,on working class grunts! They sweat to get paid, get full of dirt and pig poop!
How DARE you even ask that?
I look down on proles,on working class grunts! They sweat to get paid, get full of dirt and pig poop!
It's clear by your ridiculous comments that you have no hope. Training your memory for a year? Wtf…
>>251981
>Is it?
uni isnt hard unless you are a brainlet. pick a stem subject and see that you finish it. it really is that easy.
>Is it?
uni isnt hard unless you are a brainlet. pick a stem subject and see that you finish it. it really is that easy.
>>252027
Yes it's "easy" but it's still a lot of work. That's the entire point. It's a way to train you to be okay with doing pointless busywork for most of the day. The only thing that separates an academic from an uneducated person is the willingness to do inane worksheets and route memorization for 8 hours straight.
Yes it's "easy" but it's still a lot of work. That's the entire point. It's a way to train you to be okay with doing pointless busywork for most of the day. The only thing that separates an academic from an uneducated person is the willingness to do inane worksheets and route memorization for 8 hours straight.
>>252028
All jobs are inane tasks. Any farmer who toils or pencil pusher could tell you that. So of course university is going to prepare you for a life of inane tasks. The idea of going to university instead of a job outright is so that the inane task of choice is at least somewhat interesting to you or at least will pay you well for doing it.
All jobs are inane tasks. Any farmer who toils or pencil pusher could tell you that. So of course university is going to prepare you for a life of inane tasks. The idea of going to university instead of a job outright is so that the inane task of choice is at least somewhat interesting to you or at least will pay you well for doing it.
>>251985
Have you ever worked one? Full of alcoholic or drug addicted normalfags with the IQ of a brick wall. Maybe a trade would be better but I only have experience with places like restaurants and construction.
Have you ever worked one? Full of alcoholic or drug addicted normalfags with the IQ of a brick wall. Maybe a trade would be better but I only have experience with places like restaurants and construction.
>>252034
It doesn't matter if you don't have to talk to them, which you don't if you just do physical labor all day. The only problem is you'll feel miserable up until your body adjusts to doing physical stuff all day.
It doesn't matter if you don't have to talk to them, which you don't if you just do physical labor all day. The only problem is you'll feel miserable up until your body adjusts to doing physical stuff all day.
>>251995
Nah, memory training is legit. Do you know how complicated medicine is? There are so many words that are insanely long and don't look like anything you've ever learned. Look at "ankylosing spondylitis." I imagine an ANKLE (ankyl) losing (losing) a sponge (spon). It's easy to reconstruct the illness from that image. You may also imagine the ankle inflamed because ankylosing spondylitis causes bones (the spinal bones) to become inflamed and fused together. Something like that.
Mnemonics are medium - high efficiency study tools. The highest efficiency tools for retention are actually taking real tests and drilling facts into your head based on how well you do. You can do this with practice exams. Another highly efficacious method is spaced repetition using flash cards. Flash cards are basically god-tier in medicine because they let you rehearse important concepts. You use space repetition to model the decay of knowledge in human memory and reinforce concepts only so much as is required.
The method of loci, spaced repetition, memory pegs… they are all god-tier ways to develop a memory. You need to be creative and spin together complex and highly memorable stories. Using this approach its possible to approximate a photographic memory even for abstract concepts like numbers and meaningless phrases.
Nah, memory training is legit. Do you know how complicated medicine is? There are so many words that are insanely long and don't look like anything you've ever learned. Look at "ankylosing spondylitis." I imagine an ANKLE (ankyl) losing (losing) a sponge (spon). It's easy to reconstruct the illness from that image. You may also imagine the ankle inflamed because ankylosing spondylitis causes bones (the spinal bones) to become inflamed and fused together. Something like that.
Mnemonics are medium - high efficiency study tools. The highest efficiency tools for retention are actually taking real tests and drilling facts into your head based on how well you do. You can do this with practice exams. Another highly efficacious method is spaced repetition using flash cards. Flash cards are basically god-tier in medicine because they let you rehearse important concepts. You use space repetition to model the decay of knowledge in human memory and reinforce concepts only so much as is required.
The method of loci, spaced repetition, memory pegs… they are all god-tier ways to develop a memory. You need to be creative and spin together complex and highly memorable stories. Using this approach its possible to approximate a photographic memory even for abstract concepts like numbers and meaningless phrases.
College is the best option. Community colleges aren't too expensive if you're worried about racking up debt. You probably wont be able to work full time slave wage and take classes on the side in your 30's so this is very time sensitive. You can't wait.
If you want to go the learning a trade route, you can make a good living, but injuries and age will wear you down. This is also important if you slack off during your 20's. You're not done for, but physical activity becomes more difficult as time goes by.
If you want to go the learning a trade route, you can make a good living, but injuries and age will wear you down. This is also important if you slack off during your 20's. You're not done for, but physical activity becomes more difficult as time goes by.
>>251984
Going through the motions and learning to live with social norms is more tolerable than being homeless.
Going through the motions and learning to live with social norms is more tolerable than being homeless.
>>251979
Getting a college degree is worth it if Benefits of Degree > Costs of getting a Degree.
In this case we have the following
Benefits = Getting a higher paying job (assuming your field of study isn't something worthless) + prestige of being a college graduate + personal enrichment (broadening your horizons and developing critical thought)
Costs of a college degree = Tuition + Having to actually study + Interacting with normies for group projects + Not earning money for the duration of your studies or earning less than you would if you were working full time.
Do the benefits outweigh the costs? That's a decision for you to make OP. FWIW I have a degree in economics.
Getting a college degree is worth it if Benefits of Degree > Costs of getting a Degree.
In this case we have the following
Benefits = Getting a higher paying job (assuming your field of study isn't something worthless) + prestige of being a college graduate + personal enrichment (broadening your horizons and developing critical thought)
Costs of a college degree = Tuition + Having to actually study + Interacting with normies for group projects + Not earning money for the duration of your studies or earning less than you would if you were working full time.
Do the benefits outweigh the costs? That's a decision for you to make OP. FWIW I have a degree in economics.
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>>252072
https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2019/06/despite-rising-costs-college-is-still-a-good-investment/
In recent years, the average college graduate with just a bachelor’s degree earned about $78,000, compared to $45,000 for the average worker with only a high school diploma. This means a typical college graduate earns a premium of well over $30,000, or nearly 75 percent. This “college wage premium” has fluctuated over time, as shown in the bars at the bottom of the chart. The college wage premium generally increased during the 1980s and 1990s, rising from less than $20,000 to around $30,000, before settling into a relatively narrow range of $30,000 to $35,000 after 2000.
https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2019/06/despite-rising-costs-college-is-still-a-good-investment/
In recent years, the average college graduate with just a bachelor’s degree earned about $78,000, compared to $45,000 for the average worker with only a high school diploma. This means a typical college graduate earns a premium of well over $30,000, or nearly 75 percent. This “college wage premium” has fluctuated over time, as shown in the bars at the bottom of the chart. The college wage premium generally increased during the 1980s and 1990s, rising from less than $20,000 to around $30,000, before settling into a relatively narrow range of $30,000 to $35,000 after 2000.
>>252040
There are many low-effort jobs you can get that have very little social interaction. Really, only normalfags with families to support need an $80k/yr college job.
There are many low-effort jobs you can get that have very little social interaction. Really, only normalfags with families to support need an $80k/yr college job.
>>252080
I don't know what crack you are smoking where 80k/yr is a lot of money. If you want to live in comfort in the 1st world, you need at least 80.
I don't know what crack you are smoking where 80k/yr is a lot of money. If you want to live in comfort in the 1st world, you need at least 80.
>>252082
I do actually. The data doesn't lie. The reasoningis that having a college degree allows one to have a higher productivity (generate more worth) and wages are related to productivity in general. If you work on semiconductors you'll earn more than being a waiter, because semiconductors are worth more than the food being sold (on average).
Of course supply and demand of skilled and unskilled labor play a part in wages as well, but most of it comes down to productivity and a higher education allows you to generate more worth to your employer and hence allowing one to demand a larger slice of the pie.
I do actually. The data doesn't lie. The reasoningis that having a college degree allows one to have a higher productivity (generate more worth) and wages are related to productivity in general. If you work on semiconductors you'll earn more than being a waiter, because semiconductors are worth more than the food being sold (on average).
Of course supply and demand of skilled and unskilled labor play a part in wages as well, but most of it comes down to productivity and a higher education allows you to generate more worth to your employer and hence allowing one to demand a larger slice of the pie.
After a lot of thought I've come to the conclusion that the ultimate career is to be a craftsman of some sort. Ideally you want to make things that are expensive so you can minimize sales as much as possible and still make enough money. Dealing with commissions seems annoying but also avoidable. In the end if you can just put your work towards making a thing and selling that thing I think that is the best path. Literally fuck wage slaving. Anything that involves servitude is bullshit. Anything that involves taking a lot of debt is bullshit. The more dependent you are upon the social structures put into place by normies the worse your life will be as a wizard.
>>252081
Maybe if you live in san francisco or something. 30k is plenty to live comfortable so long as you don't have a pathological need to pay $3,000 a month on rent. I couldn't even imagine what I'd do with $80k.
Maybe if you live in san francisco or something. 30k is plenty to live comfortable so long as you don't have a pathological need to pay $3,000 a month on rent. I couldn't even imagine what I'd do with $80k.
>>252077
>college grads making 80k/year
This data can NOT be true. No one except ivy school trust fund babies are making that kind of cash. Even le stem meme grads are having a tough time getting a job let alone at that kind of astronomical salary. I used to believe this kind of propaganda in my youth, but I have since realized that it is full of statistical counting tricks. Like they are not counting unemployed or people who leave the country or only counting in certain areas (NYC only, for example) or they only count like 4 universities' graduates in particular. I am done with being gaslit by this shit. I could believe no college making 20k and college grads making 40k (maybe), but not that. The FED is pushing their lies a little too thick and heavy with that one. The reality is 90% of the U.S. has a future of working wagie jobs at places like Walmart.
>college grads making 80k/year
This data can NOT be true. No one except ivy school trust fund babies are making that kind of cash. Even le stem meme grads are having a tough time getting a job let alone at that kind of astronomical salary. I used to believe this kind of propaganda in my youth, but I have since realized that it is full of statistical counting tricks. Like they are not counting unemployed or people who leave the country or only counting in certain areas (NYC only, for example) or they only count like 4 universities' graduates in particular. I am done with being gaslit by this shit. I could believe no college making 20k and college grads making 40k (maybe), but not that. The FED is pushing their lies a little too thick and heavy with that one. The reality is 90% of the U.S. has a future of working wagie jobs at places like Walmart.
>>252094
>To obtain comparable wage estimates for workers in each
education group, we restrict our sample to full-time workers aged sixteen to sixty-four.
>Thus, our analysis excludes those who are unemployed or are working part-time. This restriction tends to understate the wage benefits of a college degree since those with only a high school education are more likely to be unemployed or to work part-time than those with a college degree, and this gap has widened over time
They use data from the Current Population Survey as well. There are no statistical tricks. College grads do earn this much.
>To obtain comparable wage estimates for workers in each
education group, we restrict our sample to full-time workers aged sixteen to sixty-four.
>Thus, our analysis excludes those who are unemployed or are working part-time. This restriction tends to understate the wage benefits of a college degree since those with only a high school education are more likely to be unemployed or to work part-time than those with a college degree, and this gap has widened over time
They use data from the Current Population Survey as well. There are no statistical tricks. College grads do earn this much.
>>252094
80k is not a lot of money in the tech industry. My first job at a startup (with no degree) I was earning about 80k usd. If I were a computer science graduate I could enter FANNG (now MANGA lmao) and earn far more than that. Stem isn't a meme, its an actual field with tons of jobs for people with the right skills.
Where are you pulling your data from? have a look at some of the jobs on workatastartup or angel list if you want to see salaries. note that these are usually not as high as what you can earn if you specialize in the right stuff (AI, security, cryptography, etc – earns you 150k+ at a typical startup.) like full stack is code monkey tier and doesnt compare to being an expert who actually knows useful shit.
Don't listen to poorfags for advice in tech. there are plenty of jobs if you learn the right skills.
80k is not a lot of money in the tech industry. My first job at a startup (with no degree) I was earning about 80k usd. If I were a computer science graduate I could enter FANNG (now MANGA lmao) and earn far more than that. Stem isn't a meme, its an actual field with tons of jobs for people with the right skills.
Where are you pulling your data from? have a look at some of the jobs on workatastartup or angel list if you want to see salaries. note that these are usually not as high as what you can earn if you specialize in the right stuff (AI, security, cryptography, etc – earns you 150k+ at a typical startup.) like full stack is code monkey tier and doesnt compare to being an expert who actually knows useful shit.
Don't listen to poorfags for advice in tech. there are plenty of jobs if you learn the right skills.
>>252106
I was one of the ones who fell for le stem meme. My CS degree has been useless. I currently am a wagie putting together lamps for refrigerators. I am one of the fortunate ones, because most of my cousins can not find any work outside of Walmarts with their admittedly worthless nonstem degrees (I think one other has a stem degree, but is in similar straits).
If you and most of your family goes through college, but the best job any of you has had is a full time 40k job (and the ones who did NOT go to college are better off because at least they don't have the debt), and all you see around you is poverty and misery, what do you think is going to happen? Of course you're going to end up a conspiracytard that "doesn't believe the evidence." Of course you're going to think, "Hey, this data is probably bullshit." You're going to start thinking like Winston in 1984 when he's heard that chocolate rations have increased again when he knows that could not have been the case. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what's going on in a lot of places like Wizchan and a lot of image boards. You're talking to the dregs of society. Don't be surprised if they do not believe what the masters say.
I went to university and it was definitely a good decision for me because now I actually work a job that is relevant to my interests and I feel is valuable.
>>252107
im very sorry you have to work so hard for such little pay wizzie. i definitely dont look down on people less fortunate than me. the tech industry is so competitive and you do need to act kind of full of yourself to get hired. you are smart and deserve far more money. dont give up on finding a tech job tbh. try workatastartup, angellist, stackoverflow, hacker news, and various job specific tech forums to find jobs. there is also industry specific job sites: if you had finance knowledge you could use crypto job sites for example.
im very sorry you have to work so hard for such little pay wizzie. i definitely dont look down on people less fortunate than me. the tech industry is so competitive and you do need to act kind of full of yourself to get hired. you are smart and deserve far more money. dont give up on finding a tech job tbh. try workatastartup, angellist, stackoverflow, hacker news, and various job specific tech forums to find jobs. there is also industry specific job sites: if you had finance knowledge you could use crypto job sites for example.
Im fucking sick of working for pennies but I legitimatemy cant think of a profession I'd like to study, let alone stomach for 4 years.
>>252139
Are you gen z and a crab by chance? American Psycho has been played out for well over a decade now.
Are you gen z and a crab by chance? American Psycho has been played out for well over a decade now.
>>252107
I also fell for it. I know other spergy guys who fell for it and now work dead-end jobs. Even many of the normalfags do. The only ones who actually ended up at the meme six figure job at a tech company are the super outgoing NT guys or the few succubi in my class. I noticed also when I went to career fairs that the guys who talked to recruiters about football actually ended up with an internship while the soft spoken guys who only talked about their resume did not.
That's why the statistic of going to college making more money is bullshit. It confuses causation with correlation. People do not make more money by going to college, the people who have the connections and intelligence to earn a lot of money are just much more likely to go to college. The most important thing is parents/upbringing. If you come from a family of fuckups you will be a fuckup even if you go to college. In fact it will be even worse because you will waste years of your youth and go into debt and still won't be able to get a good job. It's what happened to the few in my family who went.
I also fell for it. I know other spergy guys who fell for it and now work dead-end jobs. Even many of the normalfags do. The only ones who actually ended up at the meme six figure job at a tech company are the super outgoing NT guys or the few succubi in my class. I noticed also when I went to career fairs that the guys who talked to recruiters about football actually ended up with an internship while the soft spoken guys who only talked about their resume did not.
That's why the statistic of going to college making more money is bullshit. It confuses causation with correlation. People do not make more money by going to college, the people who have the connections and intelligence to earn a lot of money are just much more likely to go to college. The most important thing is parents/upbringing. If you come from a family of fuckups you will be a fuckup even if you go to college. In fact it will be even worse because you will waste years of your youth and go into debt and still won't be able to get a good job. It's what happened to the few in my family who went.
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>>252168
I think it’s a 4chan meme to “ironically” relate to Patrick Bateman. The whole “based sigma male” thing. I’ve been seeing it pop up online recently. See attached photo for an example. (Apologies for the outsider meme wizmods; it is posted for educational purposes only.)
I think it’s a 4chan meme to “ironically” relate to Patrick Bateman. The whole “based sigma male” thing. I’ve been seeing it pop up online recently. See attached photo for an example. (Apologies for the outsider meme wizmods; it is posted for educational purposes only.)
>>252171
Irony is a cancer and a plague. Patrick Bateman is cool and extremely relatable for sociopaths like me
Irony is a cancer and a plague. Patrick Bateman is cool and extremely relatable for sociopaths like me
>>252173
Yes but his entire character is antithesis so wizardry, as he cares immensely that he is seen as successful and sex is a major part of his image. The only wizardly thing about him is that due to his sociopathy none of these things ever bring him pleasure or satisfaction.
Yes but his entire character is antithesis so wizardry, as he cares immensely that he is seen as successful and sex is a major part of his image. The only wizardly thing about him is that due to his sociopathy none of these things ever bring him pleasure or satisfaction.
>>252171
Complete and utter nonsense. The only reason people relate to Bateman is that they have a fundamental need to be liked. They want others to admire them. They want to be in a superior position regarding others because they're currently in an inferior one. It's a revenge fantasy.
Patrick is just as well ill equiped to deal with the challenges of day to day life as are wizards.
>>252179 has a point when he says Patrick doesn't derive pleasure or satisfaction in a meaningful way.
It's man's quest for longing all over again.
I too haven't felt pleasure or satisfaction in a while
Complete and utter nonsense. The only reason people relate to Bateman is that they have a fundamental need to be liked. They want others to admire them. They want to be in a superior position regarding others because they're currently in an inferior one. It's a revenge fantasy.
Patrick is just as well ill equiped to deal with the challenges of day to day life as are wizards.
>>252179 has a point when he says Patrick doesn't derive pleasure or satisfaction in a meaningful way.
It's man's quest for longing all over again.
I too haven't felt pleasure or satisfaction in a while
>>252179
I concede that he is anththesis to wizardy but find him too relatable to not like him
I concede that he is anththesis to wizardy but find him too relatable to not like him
How extreme do you define "antithesis" though because I mean he can never get close to people or fulfill human need for socialization because of being Bateman so that is pretty wizardly
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>>252195
It's not, unfortunately. He is a "wizardly" guy, just like how Ted Bundy, Hitler, the main character from the movie Drive, and Joker from TDK are, for example. You can be any kind of Chad in reality or fiction, as long as you are seen as a little bit autistic the new gen "wizards" will look up at you as their new role model.
The posters who worship failed Chads are failed normals themselves, isn't it obvious? No actual wizard would idolize the people/characters I mentioned.
Psst, nothing personel, kid.
It's not, unfortunately. He is a "wizardly" guy, just like how Ted Bundy, Hitler, the main character from the movie Drive, and Joker from TDK are, for example. You can be any kind of Chad in reality or fiction, as long as you are seen as a little bit autistic the new gen "wizards" will look up at you as their new role model.
The posters who worship failed Chads are failed normals themselves, isn't it obvious? No actual wizard would idolize the people/characters I mentioned.
Psst, nothing personel, kid.
>>252211
We knew it would eventually come back to this, after all this place started out with v9k back then, so we came a full circle.
I mean, it's not like I hate all those people or characters myself. I like Ted Bundy for killing succubi for example and The Joker for being completely disillisoned with civilized society and people in general. But I don't delude myself that they are wizardly in any way or that they are anything but material for the revenge-fantasies of failed normals.
We knew it would eventually come back to this, after all this place started out with v9k back then, so we came a full circle.
I mean, it's not like I hate all those people or characters myself. I like Ted Bundy for killing succubi for example and The Joker for being completely disillisoned with civilized society and people in general. But I don't delude myself that they are wizardly in any way or that they are anything but material for the revenge-fantasies of failed normals.
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>>252248
Finally someone with some sense still on wizchan.
Finally someone with some sense still on wizchan.
>>252171
relating to patrick bateman isn't based on thinking he's cool or anything like that, only retarded normies get that from him
patrick bateman is relatable because he denies his genuine desires and individuality to fit in with all the normies and be what society expects him to be, only feeling like himself during his increasingly violent fantasies.
people that think he's cool rather than miserable lack the ability to see anything beyond the most basic surface level
relating to patrick bateman isn't based on thinking he's cool or anything like that, only retarded normies get that from him
patrick bateman is relatable because he denies his genuine desires and individuality to fit in with all the normies and be what society expects him to be, only feeling like himself during his increasingly violent fantasies.
people that think he's cool rather than miserable lack the ability to see anything beyond the most basic surface level