Wish I could kill myself, but people are just going to think I did it because I'm a loser and couldn't get a girlfriend. When in reality, that was just a small part of the problem and my actual reasons were much more nuanced and intellectual. I guess I could leave a note and explain it all but then chances are they'll just think I was a pretentious twat. I couldn't possible elaborate on the decisions in a mere standard one page. Who the fuck leaves a thesis as their suicide note?
I also have to worry about what happened in the week before. I don't want my mum or the newspaper painting the picture, "killed himself after fucking up at work" or other lame reasons. You know those headlines that always read "30 year old female takes her own life because she was lonely and couldn't get married" and I'm like how do you even know that. Probably what her grandma thinks or the neighbor's impression after he talked to her once.
>>264710 >You know those headlines that always read "30 year old female takes her own life because she was lonely and couldn't get married" and I'm like how do you even know that. Probably what her grandma thinks or the neighbor's impression after he talked to her once.
Normies are animals just like dogs, hyenas, buffaloes etc.
They do not thing outside biological imperatives. Whatever happened - must have happened because someone got no dick or pussy.
Keep in mind half of the population is close to retardation in IQ
“Only optimists commit suicide, optimists who no longer succeed at being optimists. The others, having no reason to live, why would they have any to die?”
>>264713 I'd argue that only optimist can kill themselves, because pessimist has no reason to assume that after death there will be total peace. On the contrary - this world is hell, why shouldn't afterlife be different? Even worse, since you have tried to escape this prison. The warden of this prison would punish you severely.
>>264715 That feeling when you realize all living organisms everywhere in the universe fight over resources, and therefore create hierarchies where the strong exploit or kill the smaller or weaker.
Life is hell everywhere, not just on Earth but any other possible place where we might be reborn after suicide.
>>264717 Even if you're born as the strong life is still constant stress over assassination, foreign intervention or war.
Take the Kim Jong-Un scenario for example, you are 28 years old and your galactic emperor dad dies. You are now the new emperor. Sure, you're the 'strongest' person in the empire but now you also have massive responsibilities, need dozens of bodyguards everywhere you go and have to fear hitmen and assassins whenever you hear some noise or random bump somewhere in your palace.
>>264717 >That feeling when you realize all living organisms everywhere in the universe fight over resources, and therefore create hierarchies where the strong exploit or kill the smaller or weaker. There are also symbiotic and parasitic relationships between organisms >Life is hell everywhere, not just on Earth but any other possible place where we might be reborn after suicide. We can anticipate life narrowing as the cosmos degenerates into simpler elements over the next 100 trillion years, but it's hard to say whether this will be more or less hellish for the remaining beings
>>264718 To be fair, absolute monarchs do have the option of becoming decadent coomers and letting the cabinet run everything. Mao did it for three years before becoming paranoid, Castro sort of backed off from running the state and just fucked foids all day in his adiddas sweatpants.
Kim Jong-Un could take a total indifferent stance to the affairs of state, and be just a figurehead going with whoever wins the power struggle behind the scenes.
>>264708 There’s few reasons I suppose, the most obvious ones that stick out are the fear of what my mum might think or do, the logistical nightmare of living in the one state in America that has some pretty strict gun laws, and I am sacred of what might happen after I die. To explain a little bit more,I love my mum more that anyone in the world and I really think she might be the only person in existence who would be impacted by my own death until her passing. I also feel like using a gun would be the safest bet and also the least frightening way to do it. To me the worst bit would be fear of what happens after death. Everything that most people propose from everything becoming a void to ending up in heaven or hell just seem terrible. But to really sum it up, I’m just a huge fucking pussy.
I have a gigantic fear of dying and death itself. Not because of hell or some bullshit like that. The thought of not-existing and not being able to think is scaring me for some reason.
I also fear what others think about me. They would probably think I killed myself for some retarded reason. I want the world to know why. I thought about writing a really long suicide letter. But nobody would read it anyway.
>>264755 The fear is wordless. You are trying to put language to it through "it's the thought of not-existing" or "what others might think" but these are narratives attempting to give shape to a more base discomfort. There is a simple coded aversion to harm in you, fear is a type of harm, there is a simple coded fear of death in you. That's all there's to it.
>>>264755 >I also fear what others think about me. They would probably think I killed myself for some retarded reason
This. I don't want anyone to think I killed myself over some dumb bitch or other retarded reasons, people will make up the dumbest shit. I'm not sure if I will ever kill myself but this is the reason why I'm gonna write down some stuff
I also share the fear of dying and whatever comes afterwards but I also don't think I will get old so when death gets me with a heart attack or whatever I'm just gonna have to accept it anyway. For some odd reason I always see myself collapsing on a hospital bed whenever I think about death but I think ill just die in my apartment without anyone noticing.
>>264734 >Kim Jong-Un could take a total indifferent stance to the affairs of state, and be just a figurehead going with whoever wins the power struggle behind the scenes.
I wonder if that's how the Japanese imperial court existed for almost a thousand years.
They were just ceremonial figureheads who supported whichever warlord or Daimyo was in power. The Daimyo then used their lineage and prestige to cement their rule and legitimize their position as ruler.
The emperor was free to just fuck around, eat, drink and do whatever he wants on state funds, the ultimate NEET
>>264788 That's because he's actually at heart a liberal minded reformer with the interests of his people in mind. His dad was the sort of fat cat lazy retard I described and that's why he coasted by fine.
>>264823 I relate.I'm 26 and for me this "life" was more like a shitty demo, like the ones that let you play 2 or 3 hours, I never even managed to experience 10% of the shit people usually does and yet the Little I've lived was so shit that I already want to call it quits.
One of these days I Will just break and jump in front of the train.
I plan to kill myself in about a month from now. I'm waiting because my sister is getting married this month, and my brother's birthday is soon after that, and I don't want to put a dark cloud over anyone's good time. There is the possibility that I'll pussy out when the time comes, but I have been getting some fairly consistent reminders as to why I'm ending it all, so hopefully I can push through and do it.
I have noticed something interesting in my life lately, however. I used to do a lot of daydreaming and fantasizing about a variety of things. Sometimes about my shitty life improving, sometimes about other worlds and realities just to entertain myself. Lately, however, my fantasies have been far less fleshed out. I still daydream, but it's very watered-down in comparison to what I used to dream up. I think the fact that I have finally, truly given up on life, and am now staring down the barrel of my own mortality, has caused me to start shutting down mentally. I just can't bring myself to care about anything anymore, not even my own fantasies. Now I just go through the motions most days, I feel like a zombie or a husk. I even wonder if this is what it feels like to be a normalfag: little-to-no inner dialogue or creative thoughts, just moving mindlessly from one bland event to the next until the day ends. It's a strange feeling to be sure.
>>264847 I know that feel, it’s like the evolution of my/our depression. I almost liked it better when it “hurt”, there was at least a sham sense of poetry/romanticism/drama to it, like that Rimbaud poem that I’ve long forgotten. Like I was at least living some life, a road less travelled, some other nonsense like that. But now I’m just empty, I wake up and look around, and I can’t justify any of it. I simply see no point. I don’t know how any of the more “hardcore wizards” go on, I’m essentially a failed normie/washed up chad and the intense decline over the years is really unquestionable. I was never once happy, always “going with the flow” and just following the societal ways, but now… it’s such a sham that every new day feels like a betrayal of something deep inside me. The only thing that makes me aware of myself is the calling of death. My real name means nothing, it has this definite shape and form that falls apart. But when death calls, I know what I really am and why I’m here. To die. That’s it. It’s not romantic or touching or meaningful, it just is. Oh well. I’m likely going to catch that bus soon too. Good luck.
>>264850 >But now I’m just empty, I wake up and look around, and I can’t justify any of it. I simply see no point. Yeah, that's pretty much it to a tee. I used to think that my suffering at least had some kind of meaningful aspect to it, like I'm suffering to strengthen myself for something, but I can no longer bring myself to put a positive spin on this awful life of mine. I've already accepted and internalized the fact that nothing I do matters and I'm going to die soon, so everything has become pointless. Honestly, the bulk of my day consists of playing video games, watching shows and/or youtube videos, or browsing the internet, basically anything to keep me distracted until I can finally get off this ride. >But when death calls, I know what I really am and why I’m here. To die. That’s it. I can relate to that. It's actually kind of funny in a way, when my mother was pregnant with me she nearly drowned. When I was being born, the doctors had to preform a cesarean section birth because my umbilical cord was wrapped around my neck and I would have been strangled. My sister and brother were both born in a military-base hospital, while I was born in a common hospital in one of the worst, most dangerous cities in the US. It's as if something or someone was trying to spare me from this life. Unfortunately, I was born anyway, and now here I am 30 years later wishing I hadn't been. >I’m likely going to catch that bus soon too. Good luck. Thanks, fellow wiz. I hope it goes well for both of us.
>>264852 > used to think that my suffering at least had some kind of meaningful aspect to it, like I'm suffering to strengthen myself for something, but I can no longer bring myself to put a positive spin on this awful life of mine. Yeah precisely. Past the point of pretending. >It's as if something or someone was trying to spare me from this life. Funny, my mom had a miscarriage before me, and then insisted on trying again and here I am. Should've taken the lesson the first time I guess. Likewise, quick and painless, vanish without a trace, etc.
i havent killed myself yet because i like daydreaming and i know death is the end. i wanted to do things, i wanted to live my life. but i couldnt. so i hang dearly to daydreams, fantasies, and memories. i spend all my time imagining nice things. its the only way to experience what i wanted to live. i couldnt live my life, so i like imagining, imagining being free. if i die, i wont have that anymore. my life is over and i have to kill myself to at least avoid becoming homeless and starving to death - i have so given up on life id rather be homeless and starve to death in the cold than accept great job opportunities - but there are things i love so i have to imagine them because i couldnt live them. i like imagining being a very small kind and completely devoting my life to studying. programming languages, operating systems, then mathematics, physics. going to an university and writing a lot. and having an important job that helps a lot of people. i like imagining drawing and composing. i think i could have been the happiest person in the world, even without any money or friends. i think im different and can do things no one else can even imagine, im very lucky to be myself, even though i couldnt be myself. if not then at the very least i just love mathematics a lot. i wish i were free. i wish i could have been myself. there are so many things about myself that i dont even know and i wanted to find more about myself. and i wanted to learn more about the world. and be useful and interact with others. i think i had a real purpose but i failed. i hope god forgives me. i hope that i can try again after i die. i dont want eternal rest, i dont even want to go to heaven if it exists, i just really wish i could reincarnate and get another chance. i wish i could rewind time, i wish i were born again. i want another chance. i just love learning and i think i could have been useful. but i didnt get to live that life. i dont know i wish i could express myself but i can never do it satisfactorily. i dont know. im the worst. freak. low iq. cringe. mentally ill. all the bad things. sorry. sorry for making a post.
>>264863 I kind of feel like this too. I don't know if i could really do all the well if I only had one more chance. I feel like I would need at least ten to live a good life.
Honestly, I'm unsure as to why I haven't killed myself yet. I've been suicidal since I was 10, maybe 11. Infact you could even say that I have been suicidal since I was 7 or so, though back then my reason for wanting to kill myself wasn't because life sucks but because I had a morbid curiosity regarding what happens after you die. I remember trying to kill myself at age 11, it was a sudden fit. I had slept for maybe 10 hours the entire past week, and I just had to get woken up by my father loudly cussing, out of all things. I thought about the usual routine, eat stale bread with butter, then fuck off to school in the freezing cold, where I would have to deal with over a thousand screaming elementary schoolers for some 8 hours, doing fucking nothing but staring at the walls while surrounded by adults and children who all think I'm mentally ill, bar none. I'm honestly glad nobody ever found out that I tried to kill myself, I'd probably have to live a life far worse than the one I have if they did. It sucked fucking ass having to wipe my tears, get yelled at by my father for not changing in time, and then walk all the way over to school though. Didn't help that my impromptu suicide attempt made me miss out on my breakfast either.
I've thought about how maybe I don't actually want to kill myself, that would explain why I haven't done so despite being suicidal for a decade and a half, but I doubt it's true. I used to hate my family for lots of good reasons, and in fact I even tried to stab them, but now it's cooled off and I just don't want anything to do with them. I get overworked everyday until I'm dead exhausted. I've never really interacted with any succubi at all, not even in kindergarten or elementary or whatever, I haven't wanted to interact with them either. I haven't had any friends since 4th grade. I used to have an online friend that I'd play games with but now he's like a neglected puppy because I don't have enough time. I simply don't gain enjoyment from life, I haven't even masturbated in years and I eat bread/rice/eggs and drink water and coffee. Beer makes me feel good but I don't even bother to drink it for some mysterious reason. In my free time I just sit in front of the computer and browse the web, not bothering with games, anime, etc. I get in this bizarre semi-conscious state where I can only vaguely tell where I am or what I am doing, after writing a post I might stare at it puzzled wondering whether it was me who wrote it, even though I only posted it 5 minutes ago. Everyday I just suddenly snap out of this bizarre state at some late hour, after gazing at my computers clock and judging it about time to go to bed, and I stop and wonder to myself. What the actual fuck did I even do in that X hour long session? I could name you 3-4 of the websites I went on sure, but I definitely couldn't tell you what it is I did there. The amount of time spent and the amount of things done doesn't match either, who the fuck spends 6 hours straight doing nothing but reading wikipedia articles for example?
Anyways, what I was trying to say is that since my life is shit, I shouldn't have any attachment to life other than the purely biological one, and therefore that the reason I haven't killed myself couldn't be that I'm secretly okay with living or something. I get a sudden urge to do it once a week or so, but for some reason it's never the right occasion for it. Jump off the building? Meaningless, the building is too low, same with all others in this city, the chances of me getting lucky and dying must be something like 1%, and the chances of becoming braindead 50%. Stab myself with a kitchen knife? I bet it won't do too well against human bodies, not to mention I'd have to stab many times and even twist the knife around, all the while hoping unrealistically that I'll be able to contain the urge to scream and thus avoid the neighbours calling for help. A gun? If I could get my hands on one then I probably would really have ended myself by now, in a sudden burst of bloodlust at least. Sodium Nitrite or whatever? That'd require advance preparation. I'll probably end up going out with that though.
Rereading this post now, it just looks like whiny bitching without going anywhere. I want to add something to it but I can't figure out what that thing is. I'm tired and it's past bedtime, so I guess I'll just end up vomiting it out in this state. Quite halfassed, just like everything else I've done
I’ve decided to kill myself by overdose. How many Valium pills would I nees for that? I have a bunch here. I’m thinking about waiting my next supply and then take them all at once.
>>265731 Don't use pills. I took a bunch of, around 80-90 supposedly rather strong sleeping pills with alcohol yet I'm still here. Pills rarely kill people. Drug overdose, like heroin, is another thing entirely. Anything doctors prescribe you is most likely isn't strong enough to kill you even in big doses.
The only thing you will accomplish is that you will be locked up in psychiatry for a while. Needless to say, most people there are normals too. Don't depend on uncertain suicide methods like pills.
I recommend hanging, jumping in front of the train or guns if you have them.
>>264708 >state your best excuses to not suicide here There's a >0% chance there's an afterlife, and the afterlife might be bad. The additional time spent on Earth is time not spent in the potentially bad afterlife. There's also a >0% chance that a suicide attempt will fail, and waiting longer before killing yourself means less time potentially spent in a disabled state. There's also a >0% chance that you will be able to improve the world in some way, so if you are reincarnated on Earth, the world you are reincarnated into will suck slightly less.
So here's been the last week or so of my life: >dad pushes me towards warehouse job >apply and get hired >told by supervisor that I will be working 40 hours per week, but I will have some 10 hour shifts because they're entering their 'busy season' >after the first few days they change me to 10 hours a day every day, plus some 8-hour shifts two Saturdays this month (basically lied about most of the job) >come home feeling exhausted and miserable every day >dad asks me about work >said I'd rather not talk about it >dad gets enraged and screams at me for 20 minutes, hurling insults at me and belittling me as much as he can (my dad has always been controlling and manipulative, and has narcissistic tendencies, so the fact that I don't love the job he pushed me into is a personal affront to him in his eyes)
I decided enough was enough and this morning I went out to kill myself. First, I sent my supervisor a message saying I was sick and couldn't come in, then I 'left for work.' This way, neither my coworkers nor my parents would think to look for me until I was already long dead. I then drove to the hardware store and bought 25 feet of 1-inch thick manila rope to hang myself with. I was all ready and set to go out and end it, I was even excited about it. Unfortunately, the lesser parts of my nature, namely my cowardice and indecision, won the day. I spent nearly 11 hours driving around the state, looking for what would be the "perfect spot" only to ultimately find nothing suitable, pussy out, and return home in shame, pretending I actually went to work. I feel like the dumbest, lowliest, most cowardly piece of trash right now. I can neither live my life nor end it correctly. I am truly the biggest failure this world has ever seen.
>>265828 You're not a coward. Search for another thing to do that you like, that is not a job you were forced to take. Or you will just go without a fight?
Just got back from the nut house today after pussying out of a suicide attempt. A week there and nothing has changed in my life I wish I had succeeded. The only thing that has changed is the fact I made it impossible to get a gun in my state for 5 years.
>>265830 I appreciate the sentiment, but unfortunately I am indeed a coward. I never stand up for my self when I should and I generally shy away from most things that make me feel unsafe or uncomfortable, such as any form of confrontation. I am too afraid to make most of my own decisions and I can't even go through with my own suicide. >Search for another thing to do that you like I was seriously considering buying myself an acoustic guitar and teaching myself to play, but I'm even afraid of doing that because I feel like my dad is going to hassle me about it in some way.
>>265838 I don't know if there is any written guide, but I can share with you what I found in my research. Firstly, you want probably 20+ feet of 1-inch thick rope, something that is durable enough to withstand a dropping human body. I would personally recommend polyester. I couldn't find polyester at the hardware store I went to, so I chose manila which is perfectly viable as well, so is polypropylene though not preferred as it is essentially a weaker polyester, but it can do the job. You are likely to hear the term "nylon necktie" thrown around, however I personally wouldn't recommend ropes like nylon, as they tend to have more stretch and you want rope with less give so your neck is more likely to snap from the drop. Now as far as where to hang yourself, you need somewhere fairly high up. There is actually a table authored by the US government in the late 19th century and revised by the British government in the early 20th century (you can find it online with a quick search) that acts as a guideline for the ideal height to drop depending on bodyweight, in order to ensure the neck snaps at the end of the drop. If memory serves, the height ranges from 6 to 9 feet (hence the 20 feet of rope, to make certain you have enough) depending on the weight of the individual. For example, I am a bit over 200lbs, so a 6-foot drop would have been plenty to end me, but someone closer to 180lbs may need 7 feet or more. Also make sure that you try to drop down as straight as possible.
It's important that you try to make your neck snap, as it will sever your brainstem and cause instant death. If you don't do this correctly you could be hanging there for as long as 20 minutes, during which time you will undergo excruciating pain as you slowly suffocate. Not only that, but if someone finds you before you suffocate completely, you could be 'saved' and end up a vegetable. Finally, when it comes to the knot, you can find out how to tie both a hangman's noose and a slipknot with youtube video tutorials. I would personally recommend the slipknot, as it's incredibly easy to tie, untie, and adjust as needed. Hope that was helpful to you, wiz, and good luck.
>>265845 >I was seriously considering buying myself an acoustic guitar But why you just don't do it? If you're going to be yelled at anyway, at least that it is for something you wanted. is not like is the first time neither.
>>265866 You're not wrong. My dad is nearly impossible to please, and even if that wasn't true, I don't really give a shit about what he thinks anyway. So I think I'll probably go buy one tomorrow, depending on how much they cost.
>>265845 there's no way I could do the drop thing, the beams on my attic simply aren't high enough, plus I probably requires a lot of practice. I was thinking more along the lines of erotic asphyxiation, people die of it all the time without even meaning to.
>>265872 It's funny, when I left the other day, I thought to myself "maybe I should have posted some kind of goodbye or send off." I guess that's what I'll do next time. I did write a quick note to leave on my corpse, however. It was a simple 3 lines: >NO FUNERAL. >Please cremate my body. >Dump my ashes wherever. Followed by my name and signature. I didn't bother trying to explain my reasons as most of my family wouldn't care, and the few that did wouldn't understand.
Also, next time I go to kill myself I'm going to be smarter about it. I shouldn't have went the hanging route at all, since I live in a state where I can obtain a firearm with relative ease, especially since I have no criminal record. So next time I'm going to go buy myself a gun and a bottle of alcohol, take a stiff drink or two, then distribute my grey matter throughout the inside of my car.
>>265873 Honestly, if I had gone through with it, I might have screwed up the drop myself. I haven't really looked into asphyxiation, but I imagine it wouldn't be difficult to research. People publish papers/articles on these things more than you might think. I think it's just that most people seem to look for things along the lines of "Wanna kill yourself? Here's how!" when really it's more obituary-type articles in the vein of "X people die of this each year. Here's how it kills you." Really, just type 'autoerotic asphyxiation' into your search engine of choice and read up, I'm willing to bet there's plenty of resources out there.
how should I use my mid-size saved money and other assets to my benefit,or the benefit of other non-human forms of life,before I CTB? for example;donating to a non-scam tree planting fund,or to some cow sanctuary in the depths of rural india. I think donating more stuff than expected to a random group who really needs it,is ascetic and saintly and everything good. >i fucking hate mrbeast tho,he just gives alms to middle class people who would be rich if they stopped wanking themselves. USA is a rich country ,poverty is a personal vice there.
>>265881 A cow sanctuary in india will just waste the money. You would be better off organising with a shelter where you donate loads of dry food or equipment to help the animals there. No one can do anything with dog food but feed dogs. I saw a documentary where a couponer would buy a thousand dollars worth of stuff and abuse coupons to make it free, then deliver it all to a christian food kitchen just down the road. You will be paying but the principal remains.
Alternatively fund something and work with local groups to make it happen. There's lots of benches donated by family members in remembrance so the system works. Fund an animal part or whatever.
The problem with charity donations is a lot of charities are fake as fuck. Like rape shelters are always run by feminists who actively work against supporting male rape victims in any way. So you have to be ultra careful when dealing with them. The most evil people always wrap themselves up in a cloak of good to allow them to do more damage.
>>265882 he is not serious lol you are wasting your time it is for the best i guess because if his posts are anything to go by he has to be a massive sucker
>>265888 i read on wikipedia the other day that when the US and UK used manila rope for hangings they would boil the rope before hand to take out elasticity
Recently I've been fantasizing with getting a big fat loan, use that money to travel to Japan, have fun in there until money runs out and then kill myself, have all the fun I never had in life for 3 or 4 weeks of pure enjoyment and then say goodbye, I think's that what I will eventually do, besides getting a loan that I can't pay after pretty much guarantees that killing myself is the only way out.
>>265945 Well I don't know if its any different in the US, but I just checked with my bank and they would be willing to give me a really good amount of money in cash right now (have a very good credit score) so I could really just spend it all and then kill myself.
>>265949 Having to pay an exorbitant amount of money that I can't pay back would be enough reason to kill myself, that and all the shit I already hate about my life should be enough to push me towards suicide in a definitive way.
>>265888 Scroll up a bit, I made an entire post about it. Maybe skim over the bit about the rope though, I'm not sure if I got that part right.
>>265890 You and me both. I'm trying to get myself psyched-up for another attempt later this year, but I don't know if I can actually do it. Maybe I'm just too weak now.
>>265892 Yet another reason why I might have screwed up if I attempted. Who knows.
I started doing "DMT breathing/holotrophic breathwork". I think I want to/will do 10 hours of it a day…maybe I'll get saved. who knows,im all-in, naught to lose.let it be thus
my suicide reason is honestly,totally,Body Dysphoria. never in the trans way,but genuinely because Im not a prettyboy. i wasnt one in high school at all,i cant be skinny either. my body packs on muscle out of thin air because I do semen retention,,thus,not skinny at all.
whats the most you went without sleep,seeking death,since wanting to die? I think if you TRULY want to die you need to prove it (to your very self only)by renouncing any health or expectation of a longer life,of a tomorrow.
>>266168 I disagree with this stance. I can understand not caring and letting your health deteriorate naturally as a result, but actively sabotaging your health and putting yourself through additional suffering just to prove to yourself what you already know makes no sense. Personally, I try to maintain my health to a reasonable degree, because I want to live somewhat comfortably for the last few weeks or so that I'm still here.
On a separate note, does anyone have any handgun recommendations when it comes to shooting myself? I've been looking into this a bit, but I was wondering if anyone here had a good idea or a knowledge of firearms.
>>264847 >Now I just go through the motions most days, I feel like a zombie or a husk. I even wonder if this is what it feels like to be a normalfag: little-to-no inner dialogue or creative thoughts, just moving mindlessly from one bland event to the next until the day ends. It's a strange feeling to be sure.
I share this feeling deeply. Is it just an advanced symptom of depression and apathy? I don't even know anymore, everything is so dull and boring and not worth thinking about.
>>266171 >>266168 A related idea ,also.I call it "one second enlightement" >"go to sleep "standing up in the middle of my room >the second I really fall asleep I will fall >wake up when I hit the floor >that split second of sleep-state will bring me enlightment
>>266196 >Is it just an advanced symptom of depression and apathy? Probably so. It's how I seem to feel most of the time, those constant thoughts of "what is even the point?" seem to be where my mind instantly goes in response to most things I encounter in life now. >everything is so dull and boring and not worth thinking about. Yeah, that's how it is for me these days as well. I just don't care 90%+ of the time.
>>266217 I guess, but that didn't seem to be what the other wiz was talking about. His post came across as an attempt at self-inflicted suffering for the sake of rejecting the very concept of life itself, rather than a method of relieving one's own depression.
are there any suicide forums besides SS,which is bullshit? maybe onions? I wont directly KMS, but I'll go on a spree of adrenaline jukie-ying myself,I guess i'll end up in the middle of the forest within a few months,or homeless in another city,without a map,in weeks. I can endure;pain,hunger,cold,heat.
How quick/painless would death by train be? And is it a reliable method? I've seen many videos of Indians getting hit by trains and they all seem pretty lifeless instantly. My biggest fear is getting torn up by the wheels.
>>266298 I haven’t done much research but I’d imagine if you’re able to buy a gun shooting your brain stem is probably a more absolute method. Death by train seems like a lot of added suffering and a possibility you may survive for at least part of it. I remember reading the autobiography of Malcolm X and there was a part where his father was tortured and ran over with a trolley crushing his head and he supposedly laid alive for hours before dying and I always think about that regarding death by train
>>266299 I'm not American so guns are out of the question unfortunately. I also plan on doing it in another country than my own, so I figured train or jumping off a high place are my only options.
>>266298 One acquaintance suicided by train when I was in high school. I didn't witness the action but I got told by classmates that did what happened.
Somehow his foot got chopped off of his legs and flew 5-6 meters away from him. After he jumped he was still moving under the train indicating that he didn't die on impact. When the medics came he was already pronounced dead.
Doesn't sound like a good way to end it in my opinion.
>>264847 >I still daydream, but it's very watered-down in comparison to what I used to dream up I've been on that steadily decline for at least the last 5 or 6 years, I can't even remember when it started. The thing is I used to treasure the ability to imagine those worlds, stories and to ponder about philosophical or political questions, and whenever I thought about losing that part of me I thought that I would end my life for sure, but now that I've actually lost the better part of that I just don't seem to care that much about it. I'm not even sad, just empty, but I still not feel like offing myself because since I'm empty I can just go through life without caring that much about all the things I lost along the way.
It's a strange kind of hell really, and sometimes I which I could end it because there's still a small part of me that feels like things shouldn't be so horrible.
I earn 50K mexican pesos a month. But I spend/waste a lot of it. If I "tap into" the Death-Drive I guess I can save 80% of it every a month..for 2 years? what last,great,adventure can I embark upon once I have nice dough?
>>266435 hmm? I am Given by my parents+uncles. (dont worry; this is the appropiate Estate of things. the universe has an Order) but,yes: i still need to save with fierce asceticism for…some stuff.
>>266378 >I'm not even sad, just empty, but I still not feel like offing myself because since I'm empty I can just go through life without caring that much about all the things I lost along the way. >It's a strange kind of hell really, and sometimes I which I could end it because there's still a small part of me that feels like things shouldn't be so horrible. That's about where I'm at as well. Overall, I still lament how awful this world and my life is, but on a day-to-day basis I'm just going through the motions and not caring all that much.
Also, a minor update on my foolish escapades. (continued from >>265828) I took the day off from work and drove down to a local gun shop. I'm in the US, in a state where gun laws are pretty lax, so I figured I would be able to pick up a handgun(for easy use and concealment) and, when I feel the time is right, go out and shoot myself. Unfortunately when I got there the selection was scarce because apparently they just returned from a gun show. The only handguns they had available were either well out of my price range or little pea-shooter .22LRs. So first I try to hang myself, but can't find a decent spot, now I want to shoot myself but I can't find a decent gun. I feel like my life is turning into a sort of dark comedy where some divine being gets to screw with me and laugh about it, like some sick twist on The Truman Show. It would almost be funny if I weren't so miserable.
>>266647 Maybe the Universe or God is sending you signs that you shouldn't kill yourself? Sounds like someone has a plan for you out there.
>>266378 What you describe is more like Nirvana than Hell. Emptiness isn't necessarily bad. You are free from all the bonds and chains of this world. You should venture deeper down the rabbit hole if you ask me.
Brings myself great satisfaction knowing another day I live on this Earth makes someone's day that much shittier. The actions I do just pisses someone off that brings me great satisfaction knowing my existence really just erodes a few handful of people's mental being.
Plus, suicide doesn't have as much weight as it use to have. There once was a time that it would cause deep emotional pain for those around, but now it seems it brings a temporary mental road block with no lasting effect that is eventually memory-holed.
With that being said, it oddly makes the world an oyster, since now the thought of not being means there's nothing to lose. With nothing to lose, there's everything to live for.
Living is all that I know life is mysterious and absurd which is exciting. I don't know what to call it maybe like some kind solipsist grandiosity but I feel as though if I keep living I may just discover some special purpose discover knowledge that gives life new meaning. Of course I know that this is silly, and that my life is probably to be just as mundane and uneventful as it has been thus far. I find the prospect of plunging myself into something I am not at all familiar with (Death) to be uncomfortable. Living is dreadful but sometimes tolerable and perhaps even preferable
Many here say they are only alive out of spite, revenge or something similar. As someone who has been done that road I can tell you that won't suffice always. You can only cling to negativity and hostility for so long before burning out. You need to find something else, something you enjoy doing. Spite/revenge still means that you care about other people on some level. Let go of that.
I'm not saying you should like people. But forgiving them and moving on really helped me to distance myself from them. Now if I do torment people or cause them some kind of trouble I do so not because I hate them but because I enjoy doing it, tormenting inferior life forms like normals.
>>266693 Maybe but it is exciting, no? To think that you have a purpose or role in life only you can fulfill perfectly. And that someone or something wants you to be alive to fulfill that purpose.
>>266859 I know those feels. I rediscovered my faith in God recently and I can only laugh at this world now. It's full of misery, sin, hypocrisy, lies, suffering, filth but I can't deny that it is constructed amazingly and it is entertaining in some odd way.
I am tired of reading religious doctrines that minimize the suffering of the inhabitants of this planet. There is a type of delusion there. A sleight of hand that mistakes fantasy for reality. What can be more real that the suffering you feel NOW. right NOW. You feel it. it's real. To deny that, to say it's all some sort of elaborate game or joke or misunderstanding, is to commit the greatest intellectual sin.
>>266866 >Maybe but it is exciting, no? To think that you have a purpose or role in life only you can fulfill perfectly. And that someone or something wants you to be alive to fulfill that purpose. I thought about this, and if it is true, it doesn't really make me all that excited. Like I said in my earlier post, it feels like my life is some sick joke, like some otherworldly being is having a laugh at my expense. I'm at a point in my life where my health is beginning to deteriorate and a lifetime of failures have left me with basically no future to look forward to. When I think about it, it just makes me angry as hell. And even if it isn't some cruel joke, but rather an actual plan or destiny, then from what I can tell it's a fairly shitty plan. In which case I still see no need to carry on with this foolish game.
>>266893 Agreed. One of the normalfag platitudes I hate the most is "happiness is a choice." It's the ultimate delusion. To think that people like us, who go through bad childhoods, various traumas, and severe degrees of loneliness, can somehow shrug off all of that pain like it never happened is insultingly retarded. People who believe that an individual can choose their mood as easily as choosing an outfit to wear are living life on easy mode. To hell with them.
>>266893 >>266940 no one cares about you at all much less your "suffering" no one wants to help you no one should help you if you legitimately can't survive without "help" you are worthless everything is a choice, you are just so stupid and shortsighted you can't be bothered to see how your choices result in your situation.
you're dying, that's why you're depressed. you don't have enough life force to fill your body. your body is weighing the possibility of just deciding to drop dead. this is psychological apoptosis; you don't have any apparent reason to live (your instincts aren't being satisfied), so in evolutionary history this means there's a good chance the species would be better off without you - that's why the suicidal urge evolved.
either do something to satisfy your instincts (this means breaking some rules) or just die
>>266893 Emphasizing your or others' suffering all the time implies that you take things way too seriously. Suffering comes and goes just like everything else in this life. Don't get caught up in it. There is no special prize for those who complain all the time.
>>266940 Then you will hate me but I will say it anyway. >To think that people like us, who go through bad childhoods, various traumas, and severe degrees of loneliness, can somehow shrug off all of that pain like it never happened is insultingly retarded. Why do you value your misery and celebrate it so highly? I feel like eternal suffering is a fetish for some people. You take yourself way too seriously. There are many people who got a worse lot from fate yet they managed to deal with it. You probably also have things you should be grateful for but you disregard these. >People who believe that an individual can choose their mood as easily as choosing an outfit to wear It isn't easy but it can be done. With practice. I learned to be generally happy and at peace too. It takes a while but you can get there. The mind is capable of fantastic things. You just need to tune it to other frequencies.
I'm not angry enough. I could go to the nearest railroad crossing and jump in front of a train but it scares me to jump in front of a train. Like it really takes some balls to do it.
>>266965 >>266963 Why do people come here, a place DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS, and say we are complaining about our problems too much? It's like you're seeking out something and then complaining you see too much of it. By the shit of God, donate your brain to someone who might use it.
>>267150 >a place DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS Where is it stated that it is for complaining only? Who says we can't discuss how to get better? What's the point of complaining if you don't want to get better?
>>267156 Did you reap any concrete benefits from whining and feeling pity for yourself? Or from obsessing over your suffering or others'? No? Then why do you stick to it?
>>267161 >Did you reap any concrete benefits from whining and feeling pity for yourself? Or from obsessing over your suffering or others'? Yup, quite a few. The simplest is that I enjoy doing it. I feel slightly better afterwards. It relieves stress. It's similar to how crying tears release endorphins, which help to numb emotional or physical pain. Do you not understand how emotions work or something? Ignoring pain doesn't just make it disappear. The only person being useless here and spreading misery is you. >Who says we can't discuss how to get better? You're not doing this at all. You're just victim blaming people and offering nothing of actual substance to anyone. "Just stop feeling bad bro" isn't practical or useful advice.
>>267165 >Yup, quite a few. The simplest is that I enjoy doing it. Oh at least you admit to being a feminine sissy who takes joy in playing the victim all the time.
I understand how emotions work certainly. I doubt you do on the other hand. Constantly rolling around in your dirt and filth won't make you happy, I wonder why most people aren't happy here if whining and feeling pity for yourself are all that takes to be happy? HMM. >victim blaming Liberal meme phrase mostly used by wymen, are you sure you aren't supposed to be on tumblr?
I'll give you an advice. You don't help miserable people by saying that it is all right to feel pity for yourself all day. You help them by opening their eyes to reality. Which is usually done the tough way.
>>267177 >feminine sissy who takes joy in playing the victim all the time. Why do you think going around insulting people is going to be helpful to anyone? It doesn't make any sense. You just want excuses to be a dickhead. >Constantly rolling around in your dirt and filth won't make you happy What will? Elaborate with practical advice or you're just wasting everyone time. >You help them by opening their eyes to reality. Which is usually done the tough way. The reality – which is? That mental illness doesn't exist and that you can literally just will yourself to stop suffering with mind magic? Get real.
>>267189 Fixing your problems and not masturbating to your self-pity is a good direction to take if you want to be happy. >The reality – which is? That mental illness doesn't exist and that you can literally just will yourself to stop suffering with mind magic? The reality that most of your problems are complete non-issues. The reality that life is too short to waste it on pointless pessimism. The reality that there is no value in being miserable.
>>267217 >Fix your problems and never ever complain on the suicide general again wizzy you fat retard! >Huh? You're asking me how to fix your problems? >Just fix them and stop complaining you bastard! If you don't you're a tranny faggot and probably eat your own shit! Guess how I know you have not suffered a single second of your life? Hell, relative to the blatant fact that you come here to laugh at and ridicule people in pain that sort of thing does not matter in the least. How about you just stop crying and trying to use people as your emotional tampons because you aren't kool enough for your schoolmates to talk with you, eh lad? Pick up your own fucking advice.
>>267217 >Fixing your problems Nooooooo, you don't say. I never considered that. Please, give us more of your brilliant insights. >The reality that most of your problems are complete non-issues. Lol, how would you know? Do you have my social security number as well? Step out of my life a little bit, sister.
I was going to, then I thought "if I am going to kms I might as well do something crazy for my perspective, let's see how far I can get" and I am here, moved away from home in July with some savings, got a job in August, I will stay here until I get fired or crazy, then I will walk away to see places
I've decided to die by drowning Since I don't have access to a gun, that would be the easiest way. I'm gonna jump into a river and drown myself since I don't know how to swim. Might do it this week. I'm already thinking about what to write in my suicide note.
>>267221 >>267224 Most people here don't want to fix anything. That's the hard truth, they just want to whine endlessly. I know because I used to be like that too. I won't entertain your delusions about existence you cling to so much, I will give it you hard and as things are. Who cares if I sound harsh, your problem is that everyone treats you way too gently if anything.
The "depressed pessimist" who can only whine day and night is a product of modern society. In the past you people would have been forced to man up during some war, poverty, illness, natural disaster or conflict with your peers. I would be curious to see if you still posted on dep all day about how horrible life is if you had to wageslave 12 hours a day just to survive or if you were forced to fight an invading country. I guess not. Pessimism is a privilege of the spoiled.
>>267335 This. You just get tougher after a certain amount of time naturally unless you consciously decide to be a crybaby all your life.
>>267374 I work 10 hours a day and spend 2 hours on public transport, I've lived a life of poverty, never taught anything by my parents and I didn't even start showering until the age of 12. You wanna know why? It's because we didn't have any facility to shower with. I've had my roof collapse on top of my head while it's raining, spent 4 years without speaking to a single soul, not in real life or the net, tried to stab my father and kill myself at age 11, spent years treated as an actual retard by everybody around me despite being perfectly fine and had to struggle with social anxiety, and I can say as somebody who has really suffered, and now lives a life indistinguishable from that of a normalfag, on the outside at least, despite suffering from extreme trauma, can tell you that you're fucking retarded. The vast majority of people here have suffered extreme amounts, not "been spoiled". Unlike you I assume, seeing as how at your age you're still trying to take others down a peg by yelling at them because you feel bad about yourself or something.
Also, you're saying that people here "only whine all day and night" or "are crybabies"? What the fuck do you even know? God knows how many people come and post here every week, the suffering and whining isn't that of a single person but split among at least dozens. And in case you still can't tell whining occasionally about your horrendous life does not mean you aren't doing anything about it, you dumb fuck. You think you know everything and are some epic stoic chad because you raped your mother and your father disinherited you or some shit, and that somehow makes you a cool sufferer macho, but all you do is yell at people and assume bullshit about them. Oh what's that, when I vomited out bullshit at them after assuming their entire life and cussing them out they proved me wrong by telling me their life was nothing like I said? That's fine, I'll just assume even more bullshit and vomit out more cusswords at them! When I was 8 years old, I didn't even know how to brush my teeth because nobody had taught me, when I was 16, I already knew everything required to act like an average normalfag, only lacked the retardation to be one. In that period of time nobody helped me in any way or shape, only ridiculed me and called me a subhuman. There were plenty of your kind screaming about shit they know jack about though, and guess what? I have not once benefited from any of you. Just fuck off and scramble off to some other site to sell your crap.
>>267374 >whining bad >how do you do follow suicidals? i was like you too >just by urself brah >muh privilege People like you deserve to be raped. No one asked you, preachy faggot.
>>267378 And more self-pity, attention-whoring and engaging in the race for the most miserable life ever. If you put 1/10 of the effort you used to write this wall of text of complaining into trying to solve your problems then you'd be better off…Ah, but then you wouldn't have any reason to complain.
Did you expect I'd say wow wizzie, I never realized how cruel and hard life can be, thank you for opening my eyes? Everyone has their own problems and many even have worse lives than you and yet they don't end up as sour or bitter people who can only complain all day. Grow up. Feeling pity for yourself and masturbating to how much you suffered won't get you anywhere.
>>267396 It's amazing how some people celebrate their misery so much and refuse to part ways with it.
>>267397 Then come on, let's see you solve the problem. Live true to your words. Follow through instead of posting here about how suicide is the answer.
>>267400 My whole point was that I solved all of my own problems, all the while complaining every single step, and lowlives like you screaming at others all day didn't help me in the process at all. You also bragged about how you're so toughened by your hard life conditions unlike all the people who disagree with you, who surely must just be losers who live easy lives unlike your badass self, and that therefore you have the "right" and the "knowledge" to tell others what to do, and mock them. The fact that I suffered far more than you, fixed myself up without benefitting in the least from your retarded logic, and am now telling you that your line of thought is braindead and has never helped anybody. My very presence proves your gay ass wrong. You always tell others to fix their lives, how about you fix yours instead of spending all day telling others what to do on the net?
>>267402 It's a spoiled early 20s rich kid who has his whole life handed to him. Of course he has no idea what suffering is. Normalfags love to come here to preach.
>>267403 You whine an awful lot for someone who claims he has fixed all of his problems. Are you sure you are really all right? Just asking because you seem very upset.
Basic logic but content people don't complain. Just think about it. >You always tell others to fix their lives, how about you fix yours instead of spending all day telling others what to do on the net? I'm not the one crying all day on some fringe website about how I hate existence.
>>267405 Because suffering is your monopoly, right? Nobody can suffer but you. If everyone suffered to the same extent as you (the martyr of this universe) then everyone would be a killjoy like you too, right?
>>267402 He’s that one moron pro-natalist piece of shit who makes retarded posts since summer. Don’t understand why mods don’t do their job and ban that retard intruder normal.
>>267446 I could make a couple educated guesses. I've been banned for calling him out when he spews his garbage all over dep. I don't even post much on dep, but it's obvious that the retard comes here and gets off on shitting on the clinically depressed and impotently attempts to excuse it by claiming that he's giving some nebulous form of advice. Draw your own conclusions as to why it's permitted.
>>267490 More whining about how this site isn't your personal blog or hugbox and how the mods aren't your friends who ban everyone you disagree with. I see, I see.
A wizard is clearly specified in the rules as to what he is. Your personal obsessions and fixations have nothing to do with being a wizard. I can disagree with you on 99% of things and still I am a wizard just like you. There is no unifying principle or dogma about wizards besides what is stated in the rules.
>>267496 The rules are the foundation but a community gets shaped by its people, that's why wizchan is not a crab board for example ao the rules are not the only things that defines a wizard
>>267485 I've considered a gun as well. I'll admit though, my life is in a slightly less shitty place than it was a short while ago, so I'm in a sort of 'standby mode' mentally. At any rate, people have said that it helps to drink some alcohol before attempting.
>>267496 I get banned for rule 5, something you've been violating for months. Most of the time, there is plainly nothing you're saying with any agreeable potential because you're vapidly shitting on depressives. If it were a matter of simple disagreement on an actual topic, I wouldn't care. You're right that you being a retard and having retard opinions isn't against the rules, but that's not the issue here. If you don't like seeing people whine, then don't fucking post on dep and hide it from all, but you do like seeing people whine because you see it as some signal that enables you to proceed in satisfying your own emotional needs by shitting on those who are complaining about their lives (i.e. those using the board correctly). It's funny because you have accused others of getting their rocks off to the suicidal here, yet you constantly post "lol u wont do it fag"-tier garbage. Out of everyone who posts on dep, you're the best candidate for suicide.
>>267498 We have rules against crabs, actually. They can't express their desire for sex or relationships. So that's again just a part of the rules.
There is no official wizchan community. We are a bunch of people from all over the world with barely anything to connect us. I hate to break it to you but we aren't a church, we are an anonymous image board only. Anything you come up with besides the rules is just your subjective opinion.
>>267520 You probably get banned because you break the rules? I got banned several times too in the past for this and that. Unlike you I don't whine and patiently wait out my ban and then come back and continue to post here. I don't need to run behind conspiracy theories about the mods or anything.
And disagreeing with you isn't violating any rules at all. Just because I have different opinions from you or others here doesn't mean I can't post here. You will have to deal with it. >there is plainly nothing you're saying with any agreeable potential You just want an echochamber or hugbox. A place where everyone thinks like you and nobody disagrees with you or calls you out on retarded things.
This board is about depression, but there is no rule to say that people here should just whine all day and that giving advice to others is forbidden. Again, I don't violate anything. If you don't like my posts just hide them or don't reply to me, take your own advice really.
Also, this belongs to /meta/. Don't derail the thread further, if you have a problem with me go cry on /meta/.
>>267543 Agreed, this guy can't comprehend what people write and doesn't even take a second to process it before answering in an arrogant pseudo intellectual way
Is alcohol poisoning a viable method? It seems to have the advantages of being easy to attempt and also that it might look like and accidental death. However I haven't found any info on reliability or how much alcohol would be needed for someone of average size to die. Can anyone help me?
First of all it's gonna burn like acid in your body when you chug down loads of hard liquor, then you're gonna feel very sick and most likely start puking uncontrollably. You're gonna be extremely drunk and you might end up doing something else, you might even change your mind because of how fucked up you're gonna feel since it will take its time and it won't be comfortable, think of everything spinning and feeling like crap while throwing up until it feels like your guts come out. You might even accidently stumble and get knocked out or something else like that, if you don't die from it theres also a chance that you will be retarded afterwards or otherwise physically ruined since it has a huge impact on your liver and brain. It's a slow death and not really a good idea to do on purpose.
We need a fucking sticky on this board telling people if they want to kill themselves the foolproof and completely possible no matter where you live method is drop-hanging. If you want to die that is the way to go. We have 50 retarded posts like this every month asking if some retarded way is gonna work. It's getting ridiculous.
>>264708 just gonna reiterate that i think it's a shame that with so many bad, shitty people out there, so many suicidal people only kill themselves instead of taking out a few shitheads. if you're gonna kill yourself anyway, why not? oh well.
>>267689 it's not illegal to talk about vague plans of murder, making specific threats when they are credible is what gets feds on you. it was just a general comment. everyone makes their last choices before they commit the final act, i think some people just don't understand how final suicide is.
All you have to do is order it off a darknet market (Dread has discussion on good vendors and marketplaces). There are two ways to overdose on heroin, which include snorting pure white powder heroin and injecting pure white power heroin. For snorting, just use a straw and snort enough heroin or fentanyl powder to overdose (this usually takes around 5-10 minutes for the heroin to enter the bloodstream through the nasal cavity). If you're injecting, get a syringe needle, distilled water, a cigarette filter, a spoon and a lighter.
Since it's your first time, OD'ing on heroin is quite easy, as the heroin and synthetic "heroin" (fentanyl) you find on the marketplaces is quite pure.
For injecting heroin, put distilled water onto the spoon, then add your heroin. Heat up and stir the mixture until the heroin is fully dissolved in the distilled water.
Next you put the disassembled (the part of the filter that looks like white cotton) cigarette filter in the middle of the spoon, then you fill up the syringe by placing the needle in the middle of the filter and sucking up all of the mixture. Next you make sure there isn't any air in the syringe by slightly squirting some of the heroin out.
What you do next is apply a tourniquet around your upper arm to make your veins bulge out. Once you find a suitable vein, insert the needle carefully until you think it's fully inside of a vein. To make sure it's in a vein, you can pull on the syringe pump to withdraw some blood from your vein. If there's no blood, that means you're not in a vein.
So that's how you successfully snort or shoot up heroin and possibly OD if you choose. People have described OD'ing on heroin as one of their most pleasurable moments of their life up until they're unconscious. They describe losing consciousness as "going to sleep", just like you would go to sleep at night, but in one last euphoric haze.
The only way to survive an OD is if someone finds you and administers you narcan. Death can occur as little as 5 minutes after injecting.
I've come to the conclusion that if I don't make it within 5 years investing my 6 figures I made investing, that I'm going to kill myself via a heroin overdose.
If within that 5 years I'm able to acquire enough capital to invest in a high dividend index fund and then retire, I will stay alive.
is anyone else considering death by fasting? >you have A LOT of time to go back midway trough > after a few days you enter a mild euphoria which increases gradually due to hormones,endorphins,opioids etc >after 3 days you secrete a huge boost of HGH,so theres that >no knife ,or poiso,or jump or hanging needed. no blood or splatter.
>>264708 I honestly don't know. When I was younger, I sabotaged my life so that one day I would have no choice but to kill myself and now I'm sitting here trying to figure out how to unfuck my life. I don't wanna die, to be honest I'm too much of a pussy to rope myself and it feels wrong to an hero after all the bullshit and humilliations I've suffered for years. I wanna be happy for once in my life, even if it's for a short time. I wanna be that guy that makes the comeback even if all odds are against him, I'm well aware that this might be just a cope, but I wanna give it a try. I wanna try to fix the damage I caused to myself by being a negative, self-loathing bitch for many years.
>>267943 no no,its not a mere "i guess" and "go for"(it) i am preaching the goodness of fasting. its a marvelous trip to the Great Beyond >specially if coupled with sleep deprivation!
>>267936 Make sure you aren't too fat. Fatties can do many many days without food. 289 is the record I believe. I've even rolled 72 hours fasts before personally while also lifting for hours on end each day when I've really been trying to get exotically lean. A healthy person will definitely not be going into a terminal euphoria after 3 days.
If you already look like a holocaust victim, this may be the right path for you. Also, make sure you are getting electrolytes (salt, magnesium, potassium) while fasting or you will feel like shit. I usually mix an additive powder into my water and drink it slowly throughout the day.
>>267947 I plant to do qigong,yoga, and holotrophic breathing hours and hours each day. I want to trascend as i die:to go to the Good place,to be a sage upon the flesh
>>267949 Do that and take your "snake juice" so you can keep doing it until you are near death's door. You don't want the pain that comes from having near zero salt in your bloodstream.
>>267947 >289 is the record It should be something like that, yeah. those fatties took supplements so that they don't drop dead, though. >>267936 If you also steadily drop your water consumption while doing this you will also have a corpse that will remain for like a thousand years or so. I'd like to say what the term for it was or the wiki page but I can't remember.
>>267953 youre referring to sokushinbutsu However,additional steps must be taken for that(which I WOULD like to take!) namely using anti bacterials,moisture ,etc. and some post portem treatments were done to the buddhist mummmies My stack, idea before death would >diuretics, purgatives,laxatives. then baths of salt, hours of sauna and small room packed full of incencse sticks and candles. I would do this one week before death. i guess.
So my plan is pretty simple Dont sleep for 30h+ hours Go out to the woods at night when its -20c Pour some water on me Drink a shitton of vodka I mean homeless guys die that way pretty often the only thing that will cuck me is if some police will try to rescue me
My suicidal wizzas, if y'all really want to die, just go the old fashioned way and rope yourselves. It's cheap, practical and has a high chance of death, unless some normalfag hears you and comes to save you in time. Just make sure to do it when you're alone and don't forget to buy a rope of decent quality that can stand the weight of your body.
Since I am afraid of killing myself I've thought to disguise my suicide as an adventure and allow fate take it's course. I've thought to buy a small motorized boat and to sail it out as far away from land as possible under the night sky and than to allow waves to capsize the boat. The more I think about this the more I realise something could go wrong, like I am rescued or drift till I find land or I am capsized and I keep hold of the boat or I am not capsized and instead starve or freeze to death.
But the idea is still the most appealing to me, It's not suicide it's just doing something brilliantly stupid.
Okay, I think I will drown myself in the pool, I have a barbell which I can half submerge and have the other half sitting on a pool step, I can then place my head under the bar and roll the weight of the step having it drop trapping my head underneath.
Anything I should ingest before hand to make it easier? It doesn't seem so bad… just to struggle for a few minutes is preferable to this life time of struggle….
Why would someone who is disposing of themselves by fasting also drink water? You mentioned only depriving yourself of food. But I have read that someone without food or water can die within 3-8 days.
I have been without food or water for 4 days before but I did not die, unfortunately. I am on my third day without food or water now and I think that I might continue till my body succumbs. I feel happy and I am unafraid of death I am giddy with excitement to die! I have so had enough!!!
I only need to think of the immense mental anguish I have felt in the past few years and estrangement I have felt for living all my life and the intensity I have felt in the pasts few weeks and my resolve to die strengthens and any thought of affirming life is obliterated.
>>268719 Statistically, .22LR is the most fatal cartridge produced. Though that's mainly a result of its accessibility. Yes, from a 6" barrel, a standard weight, round nose, supersonic .22LR will penetrate the skull, and continue on through the brain, wrecking havoc as it tumbles and bounces around. There's an old adage that "A .22 enters the head then bounces around within several times, causing more damage than it would if it had exited the skull".
Here's a video on the subject, though not lindy it still clarifies some things about rimfire.
As always, suicide depends more on your preperation than your method. Take OTC blood thinners, drink much alcohol, be where no normals look, and consider combining another method with the bullet such as shooting yourself while over a tall ledge or in deep water.
i work night shift at a job that is situated right next to a river it's winter so the water gets very cold how long would it take me to pass out if i stripped naked and jumped in the river? i don't know how to swim so even if regret and survival instinct were to kick in i would be trapped
What can I take to remove this animalistic desire to live? I hate that I can't do it. Nothing is keeping me here and yet I can never actually go through with anything.
Reading about exit bag suicide and it says that one advantage of suicide by helium is that the cause of death cannot be determined and as such documented as being suicide (so long as the plastic bag is removed I think) but why is this important in countries where suicide is legal? Why should people care if other say they suicided?
I'm just waiting to see how it goes. If it becomes a nightmare I'll end it. but right at this moment things are ambivalent.I'm 28 and I have nothing to lose, never could maintain a job. I'm currently leeching out of my mother, not proud of it, but I help around the house at least, it could be worse, way way worse. Also I'm interested in the AI thingy making everyone lose their jobs. >tl,dr. >Things are getting interesting and I'm yet to hit rock bottom.
I don't need an excuse any more. It doesn't matter that much whether I live or die. I would prefer living, but it's not like the immortal soul is going to Hell if I don't please society's dictates. I took care of that question a while back and know what needs to be done, if I am able to do it, for the likely outcome of my life. The fear isn't dying but being tortured again. That's always the fear, and that is usually what pushes people to suicide - that they're about to be tortured.
The easiest method is to just order pure heroin/fentanyl off the darknet marketplaces with Monero, then just snorting enough to OD.
It's literally that simple and it's painless. The nodding out of existence is even enjoyable because you don't even know you're not breathing. Your brain is releasing so much feel good chemicals that it's actually enjoyable to want to lay down and die.
>>269891 >set up a wallet, use credit card to buy monero, move monero to wallet, install Tor, ask for darklinkz, find one that's not a scam, buy drugs with comflated escrow system, wait 6-8 weeks, hope it's not a sting, take drugs, hope you don't vomit it all up. You crypto shills are so desperate you're telling people to buy shartcoin as a means of suicide.
Take the power cable from your PC and drop one end in to the sink with your arm submerged
>>269894 >>269894 Sadly there is no quick "push of a button" method. If you have an IQ over 89 and want to do at least one thing right then its not that hard. Better then getting vegetable'd. Escrow system is easy to use, and if you order from the same ountry then its there in two days. Cost is low so you are not influcing the market and you are gone afterwads, you dont have to worry about some shitcoin and people who use shitcoins anymore.
>>269897 1. push elevator button to top floor (walk off) 2. push trigger on rifle 3. push pedal on car (in to a wall) 4. push through the snow on to a train track 5. push a blade in to your veins
If you think the hassle, scams, federal monitoring, wait times, risk of bad product, and supporting a drug dealer is easier and more reliable than bathing with the 4-slice ToastMaster, then you're probably not serious about suicide. You are building a thermonuclear AI-driven escalator to replace a 2-step flight of stairs.
>>269901 God protects Children from accidents. He'll let you die as an adult if you wish.
>>269903 >1. push elevator button to top floor (walk off) >2. push trigger on rifle >3. push pedal on car (in to a wall) >4. push through the snow on to a train track >5. push a blade in to your veins
Those are all painful. Retard. >hassle
Proof you don't actually want to commit suicide >scams
Marketplaces have reviews >federal monitoring
No fed is going to bust you for $50 in heroin >wait times
Not really a problem if you order from the same country >risk of bad product
There are drug testing kits >supporting a drug dealer
>>269904 >Those are all painful. Retard. There's nothing left of your brain to feel pain. >Proof you don't actually want to commit suicide I don't, I'm just here to tell wizards to ignore shitty advice that will have them conned out of money, arrested, addicted, hurt, and morally bankrupt. >Marketplaces have reviews >trusting reviews on the 100% anonymous darknet >trusting reviews from drug dealers selling for untraceable money heh >No fed is going to bust you for $50 in heroin Thousands of court cases and bodycam releases prove otherwise. >Not really a problem if you order from the same country Any wait time is a problem for someone at the ends of his rope. >There are drug testing kits So "Buy a drug testing kit from the internet, wait for it, learn how to use it, and then apply it to some of what you bought" is another set of steps ytou should add to your inflated list. >Who the fuck cares Most people. Anyone who plans on killing himself should kill a drug dealer beforehand.
>>269903 >2. push trigger on rifle Everythain painful and you might end a vegtable. Except related in a no funs land and that is even more hard to get your fingers on than a bit of heroin
Is sanctionedsuicide better these days? Or are suicide communities still all interpersonal drama? Has the community been taken over by “suffering is meaning just do it” mob like the rest of internet yet, or is it a hold out?
>>269925 It's just a guess. Her body is perfectly oriented supposedly after being ran over by a train and there's no blood on the railing or anywhere else. Maybe they just moved the body, but I'm skeptical of "dude this totally happened somewhere in the middle of nowhere trust me" articles.
I know imageboard people like to shit on people who aren't committing suicide not to hurt their family, but man, when other people breaking down and crying at your dinner table about their kids that killed themselves… it's hard to inflict that on your parents.
>>269948 i think that its still different from getting over parental death because as a parent ur parents already died and ur alone in life, now u got children and company, u think u wont be alone anymore on this earth, but then ur child dies too and ur alone again
My grandmother has late stage alzheimer's and I'm not going to survive on my own after her death since I live solely off her pension. I can't function in society, I can't function properly at all. I don't want to be homeless nor do i want to clean streets for 120$/month untill my spine breaks. Or to be sent to psych ward for life.
There's no god, but if there is, I hate him for creating this carnival of carnage that is life on earth. I hate hypocrytic society not providing people like me with an access to euthanasia. I hate my clown of a father and a socially inept whore of a mother. I can't remember experiencing any positive emotion since I was 9, This life was bleak and I would rather die 10 times than reliving it.
>>270092 If you Google there are some experience reports on sanctionedsuicide, someone Skyped with their friend who took it and died on cam/audio. I remember them saying it looked somewhat unpleasant, not painless but not agony? I’m not encouraging you to do it, to be clear.
Things are bad, but not bad enough for me to want to end it yet. Increasing health issues will probably be the real reason I'll eventually do it. Only 26 and have a small list of painful aliments, worst one is probably arthritis in my knee. I can be walking normally and then it's a sudden crunch and locks up, has a sharp and crampy type of pain. Don't qualify for immediate meds for it and I'm on a several year waiting list for any real help which actually just accumulates LOL. I was on a 2 year waiting list 3 years ago. We pay high tax here but still the majority of medical treatment will cost thousands. Only other way I can imagine killing myself is if I somehow did some horrible crime or was framed for something terrible. No way am I going to prison
>>270107 >i will assert my will by giving into the instinctive drive I feel to kms
What pretentious twaddle. People get suicidal because we have evolved a tendency towards it. It is one of the evolved tendencies in humans that benefits the herd instead of the individual. There are many such drives. The superego itself is one of them. Suicide is driven by feelings of shame and worthlessness. You literally feel bad for not being a normalfag and in order to escape this bad feeling you want to kill yourself. This helps the herd weed out the members that are dragging them down. Old people in societies around the world but most famously in Japan kill themselves when they get too old to provide anymore and are just a drag on the family resources. You are literally just fucking yourself over because of instincts that exist to benefit normalfags.
>>270226 I thought it was an interesting take on suicide. feelings of shame and worthlessness are the most common reasons for suicide but not the singular only reason. Living is the vocation of normalfags. It is below me as a mighty magestic wizard to be seen by normalfags or to speak with them. I exist in my heaven realm (my room) and my mother (worshipper) delivers food to my door.
One reason a wizard may do away with himself is because his time as a NEET has come to an end. And in order to avoid the inanities and concessions made when dealing with normalfags to alleviate himself from the gaze and speak of normalfags he dies on his own accord delivering himself from the ignominy of those who are beneath him. See what happens when he doesn't do this, check the wageslave thread.
>>270229 Apricots do contain half of what's needed for cyanide. Cherry and apple seeds are richer in these cyanotoxins. In the case of all seeds, they must be infused with enzymes in their respective fruits' juices to become deadly potassium cyanide. This can be done through bacteria found on soil or through high pressure compaction. The acids in your stomach, if they can even break through the seed's outer wall, will tear apart the structures of toxins before they have a chance to become anything deadly.
>>270271 Yes, it's absolutely impossible to look that information online, absolutely impossible. Really impressive how easily you fool yourself. Usually people need a more complex excuse in order to do it but you're satisfied even with the most basic and ridiculous "complication". I mean well done of course.
>>270228 so basically you've managed to merge your suicidal urges with your superiority complex cope. You will go out thinking killing yourself somehow makes you superior. protip, it doesn't.
>>270315 basically I was being risible. All I'm saying is that I'm weary and living is tedious. You said that people kill themselves because they "literally feel bad for not being a normalfag" does it sound like I want to be a normalfag? If I wanted to be a normalfag I'd find work and start desperately trying to fit in I'd numb myself and stop resisting a world which is not built for wizard kind. I'm purposely living a life of solitude.
Who are you saying has a superiority complex? You use the word normalfag. (assuming you are the same guy) Does killing myself make me superior? Well I've known for a long time that I'd like to go out on my own accord, would it make me the envy of the wageslave who wishes they had the encourage to kill themselves but instead work a miserable job? Probably. Superior? not my words, no. >This helps the herd weed out the members that are dragging them down > You are literally just fucking yourself over because of instincts that exist to benefit normalfags. Should Wizards reproduce too? we don't want to be "weeded out" right? You seem to think a wizard wanting to put an end to his life is inherently unwizardly because you think it means loosing to normalfags. So tell me how should a wizard live his life in a world built for normalfags? >protip, it doesn't. Why do you speak like a smarmy redditor?
>state your best excuses to not suicide because I failed at it. I overdosed on fentanyl (no guns in the UK) and got found in the woods naked at 3:30am by someone who was going on a freakishly early walk and happened to know CPR. helicopter ambulance picked me up and they revived me against the odds.
the first time is by far the easiest. I mixed high, no-tolerance doses of heroin and benzos, but I should have been more patient and mixed more downers, or something. I definitely should have IV'd instead of snorted. the worst thing you can do is rush.
that being said it still should have worked. 5 more minutes and I would have been out. they told me a whole lot about how "lucky you are to be alive". great
happy to post more about this if anyone's interested. its weird to think about how close I got.
>>265731 oh, btw (>>270323 here), the other wizzes are correct. Benzos won't kill you alone unless you were to take some absolute unholy amount (and you would pass out before being able to OD anyway). the way people die is by mixing them. e.g benzos+alcohol can work, although I probably wouldnt recommend it because its such an insanely unpredictable combo; it's more likely you'll black out and walk around acting like a retard, perhaps waking up in a cell with no recollection of why.
let me just quote your own post >It is below me as a mighty magestic wizard to be seen by normalfags or to speak with them. >And in order to avoid the inanities and concessions made when dealing with normalfags to alleviate himself from the gaze and speak of normalfags he dies on his own accord delivering himself from the ignominy of those who are beneath him.
So basically you're saying you don't like having to deal with normalfags because you're just so much better than them and to avoid having to deal with these lowly cretins you are going to kill yourself. This is a raging cope of the superiority complex variety, idk how to put it any other way.
>>270329 I also said I was being risible, and I'll say it again, I was being risible. It's not because I think I am better than normals, but that I am better than that. "that" being a terrible conditions: a miserable job working with people I'd rather not spend my time with. Why shouldn't I end my life on my own accord once I ought to? Instead I should pathetically cling to a miserable life because " You are literally just fucking yourself over because of instincts that exist to benefit normalfags."
It's actually my living that benefits normalfag. It's the necessity of having to work in the future that will be of great detriment to myself but to the benefit of countless normals.
I will ask again how should a Wizard live his life?
>>264708 Because I will improve the world. I will make it so less people suffer from the causes that I have suffered from. >>270358 When examining information I like to think: which result would someone have motive to falsify. For instance, a researcher is unlikely to publish fraudulent information showing Whites have the highest intelligence & compassion of all ethnicities, but they a researcher is likely to publish a fraudulent study claiming the opposite. An internet dweller may lie about how its painful to die via heroin as to persuade you not to commit suicide. I'm pretty sure its painless and blissful, though if it isn't it doesn't matter, as it will be the last time you suffer. According to the U.S government, heroin is about 40% pure, but can be as low as 10% purity. The lethal dose of IV morphine is around 200mg, and heroin is around 2x as potent (despite MSM propaganda, claiming it to be far more potent). If you inject it, inject atleast one gram. You don't want to just get brain damage. And death can take a long time, so take it somewhere secluded, where you won't be found. Good luck, anon, and I'm sorry you have suffered so.
>>270380 As a pro-suicide individual I think using illegal drugs, especially opiates is a dangerous proposition for suicide, as narcan is often available with first responders, and even often times civilians / friends of junkies. When I did my research that led me to believing in the Exit Bag™ was due to it not being as easy to bring bag, the read availability of helium or nitrogen tanks and tubes, and the painlessness of a CO2-less asphyxiation. The downsides of a opiate death are as follows: likely to vomit, possibly to bring you back, which if happens with enough time passing you will get more and more disabled due to lack of brain oxygen (though this is true of an Exit Bag™ as well, if you are brought back). Beyond narcan they can also use activated charcoals and stomach flushing, which is one reason I turned away from eating poison, though I think IV avoids that complication.
>>270380 Thank you Anon, I'm going to buy as much heroin as possible if I find someone selling as it's limited as fuck to find it. It's about $70-100 for 100mg of heroin here but I've got enough savings anyway so it doesn't matter.
>>270363 I have no idea anon. I would strongly recommend finding another downer. alcohol and benzos potentiate one another, and it *can* be lethal, but it's far more likely you'll a) pass out nonlethally or b) just act like a fucking retard. the latter can be life-ruining and make any further attempt much ore difficult. it's common for people to land in jail. it's a really bad idea to risk staying awake.
>>264755 re: suicide letters. I batted mine out in 30 minutes while completely wasted (I was waiting to time taking my opiates to catch the benzo peaks for mixing). it's mostly just embarrassing to read back. feel free to do it, tho - notes are written for the suicidal anon's catharsis, not for those who actually read it. they are the opposite of funerals, which are for the living, not the dead. it's because writing is fun (for me, anyway), and you are inherently creating your "life's work" in this scenario. what other people think is of no consequence, but the knowledge you may be force others to read it is pleasant (not unlike me writing this post on a public forum).
>>270232 >rope, exit bag, roof none are failsafe/painless and all have serous consequences for fucking up. fucking up my OD definitely made me less intelligent than I used to be, but I'm certainly not vegetative. people who fail with exit bags tend to get straight brain damage from my understanding.
there are some good classic jump spots in the UK (pic related). thing is it's so unpredictable. you can land on your legs; something could cushion your fall. there are also a ton of autistic religious preachers that stick around to try and stop people jumping, and I dont know how inconvenient they can get.
this being said my understanding of exit bags (wouldnt really consider the others) is pretty limited. but, man, imagine having access to guns. the 'Murican faux-suicidal anon is so weird. not really any different to the "fashionably diseased", wanking philosophical about how scary suicide is while having the literal certain method a few hundred quid away at most. it's hard to take any people struggling with methods in any gun-privileged countries seriously.
>>270358 it feels like nothing. last thing I remember is taking it, and then waking up in hospital the next day. the other anon is correct (in general). even if you did choke, I bet you wouldn't care. it definitely wouldnt hurt. it makes it so you really dont mind anything like that at all.
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I should emphasize in general - *please don't rush it*. failing will make your life more miserable than it even was before. be as certain as you can be. some ways I messed up: >took a huge dose of Kloponin because it was the only benzo I had around it's basically the longest lasting benzo possible. great in general, but something with a shorter half-life, or with stronger hypnotic properties, would have been better. >snorted the H instead of injecting I'm scared of needles and didn't take the time to set up a rig/learn how to hit a vein anyhow. >did it too closely to a public footpath speaks for itself. I think I underestimated the time it actually takes to die. also, that some people go on forest walks at fucking 3am, apparently. >could have mixed more downers I didn't have barbiturates or that much alcohol. I also drink coffee, and I could have still had some in my system?
I don't know if it was one of these that did it alone, but it's pretty easy to see obvious ways you messed up, in retrospect.
>>270382 You would need to be completely sure no one would find you for a while. Seems doable as long as you're not actually waffling and trying for some cry for help bullshit.
Honestly the thing that held me back when I was most suicidal was fear of fucking up and surviving in some way. I tried researching the most surefire way to kill yourself but I could always imagine some way to fuck it up somehow and end up brain damaged possibly paralyzed and unable to kill myself. That terror kept me alive until I stopped wanting to kms.
>>267936 This is exactly what I've been thinking about these last couple days. I was doing a diet where I only drank tea with sugar and a single can of tuna and I stopped on the morning of the third day because I was feeling ill in the abdomen, like my organs were going to start failing. I'm wondering now if I could die within a week of this, because other than the organ pain, it's surprisingly easy since the tea fills your stomach. Worst case, I lose weight.
What's the right way to die by cutting wrists? Should someone who wants to die this way use blood thinners, maybe painkillers? What temperature should water in the tub be?
>>271031 That is a terrible way to die and can possibly go wrong. Just hang yourself.
If you do it right, the noose will bock the carotid artery and you will go unconscious in less than 20 seconds. Death will occur within 10 minutes.
Hanging is highly reliable and, if you get scared, it lets you give up trying without any consequences. After shotgun to the head, it's the best way to die.