I'm turning 29 very soon.
After many years of being part of this community, I don't really feel like I can relate to most of you anymore. Reading your posts remind me too much of my younger self, and many past mistakes that took me years to stabilize.
Things have not improved, they tend to get worse and worse, year after year. What has definitely changed for me is the way I deal with these problems, and this is where I can't relate with most of you. Whining won't make problems go away, making whatever problem you have worse is not something wise to be proud of, and there's no shame in trying to better your situation.
Whatever.
After many years of being part of this community, I don't really feel like I can relate to most of you anymore. Reading your posts remind me too much of my younger self, and many past mistakes that took me years to stabilize.
Things have not improved, they tend to get worse and worse, year after year. What has definitely changed for me is the way I deal with these problems, and this is where I can't relate with most of you. Whining won't make problems go away, making whatever problem you have worse is not something wise to be proud of, and there's no shame in trying to better your situation.
Whatever.
whining helps relieve stress. of course it doesn't solve problems, but some problems you can't solve, like mental illness.
>>273445
I am 29 and noticed that my ability to relate to people even on the fringe rapidly declines. Being truly isolated from others only increases the rate.
Maybe it is time to go offline? I do so periodically for longer and longer finding I relate most to long dead authors. I feel like an old man.
>>273446
Nothing eliminates serious mental health problems and whining is acceptable. When people whine about trivial normalfag and crab related issues I don't care for it.
I am 29 and noticed that my ability to relate to people even on the fringe rapidly declines. Being truly isolated from others only increases the rate.
Maybe it is time to go offline? I do so periodically for longer and longer finding I relate most to long dead authors. I feel like an old man.
>>273446
Nothing eliminates serious mental health problems and whining is acceptable. When people whine about trivial normalfag and crab related issues I don't care for it.
Do or believe in whatever you want man. People just use this space to vent or find some sort of community to accept whatever their beliefs are when they’re in need of it to feel better
>>273446
The thing is you can do all this bullshit about self improvement, “you control your reaction to problems”, and whatever therapy/philosophy/YouTuber-cult and if it doesn’t work nobody wants to talk to you about it. They want you to fuck off and stop bringing doubt to their solutions. You just sit in silence talking to nobody, nobody to try and understand your experience, trapped in a Norman’s world of language and experience which is useless.
Nobody wants to listen to a depressed retard who struggles to do basic chores for decades. Yeah the internet is mostly kids who will fix all their problems in a couple of years, causing their own issues that could be fixed with therapy, but this is one of the few places with some late twenties/thirties outcasts. Even if it’s rotting.
The thing is you can do all this bullshit about self improvement, “you control your reaction to problems”, and whatever therapy/philosophy/YouTuber-cult and if it doesn’t work nobody wants to talk to you about it. They want you to fuck off and stop bringing doubt to their solutions. You just sit in silence talking to nobody, nobody to try and understand your experience, trapped in a Norman’s world of language and experience which is useless.
Nobody wants to listen to a depressed retard who struggles to do basic chores for decades. Yeah the internet is mostly kids who will fix all their problems in a couple of years, causing their own issues that could be fixed with therapy, but this is one of the few places with some late twenties/thirties outcasts. Even if it’s rotting.
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I hate how I remember being 24 and browsing this site and people saying how they are 30+ with a shitty job still living with parents sounded like horrors i never wanted to experience and yet here i am 31 and without a job even.
i thought i would get bored from doing nothing and get a degree, trade or learn a skill to be self employed to have something but nope i did nothing and time passed by instantly especially thanks to covid giving me an excuse to not go outside
now i am the guy who wants to give others advice to avoid this fate yet when i heard it i didnt listen. i dont even know if there is any possible advice that would have given me the kick i needed. i knew doing nothing would lead to this and still let it happen. regret over time you cant get back is the most painful emotion ever. its indescribable. i dont know how i could do this to myself day after day. failure at least teaches you things but i didnt even try
also browsing this site and seeing this sea of complaints of which most get ignored, and even if they get a reply it doesnt improve anything makes me feel horror
i thought i would get bored from doing nothing and get a degree, trade or learn a skill to be self employed to have something but nope i did nothing and time passed by instantly especially thanks to covid giving me an excuse to not go outside
now i am the guy who wants to give others advice to avoid this fate yet when i heard it i didnt listen. i dont even know if there is any possible advice that would have given me the kick i needed. i knew doing nothing would lead to this and still let it happen. regret over time you cant get back is the most painful emotion ever. its indescribable. i dont know how i could do this to myself day after day. failure at least teaches you things but i didnt even try
also browsing this site and seeing this sea of complaints of which most get ignored, and even if they get a reply it doesnt improve anything makes me feel horror
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>>273468
>replies do not work
The world changes with our example, not with our advice.
>beyond 30 and regretting
I'm 30 now and I don't regret at all having neeted. A piano could fall upon me tomorrow while I stroll, regardless of how much neetdom or waging I had done so I am fine not having served in the cursed rat race.
What shall I exactly regret?
>>273459
I see them as guilty, due to that mere attitude. Many improvements I've done in my life, even those out of pure madness, were done against the liking of normals.
>>273451
>nothing deletes serious mental issues
Warp waning, rebirthing, deriding normies and their mindset. You people rarely give detail about what really storms… they won't help us as we can do it between ourselves
>replies do not work
The world changes with our example, not with our advice.
>beyond 30 and regretting
I'm 30 now and I don't regret at all having neeted. A piano could fall upon me tomorrow while I stroll, regardless of how much neetdom or waging I had done so I am fine not having served in the cursed rat race.
What shall I exactly regret?
>>273459
I see them as guilty, due to that mere attitude. Many improvements I've done in my life, even those out of pure madness, were done against the liking of normals.
>>273451
>nothing deletes serious mental issues
Warp waning, rebirthing, deriding normies and their mindset. You people rarely give detail about what really storms… they won't help us as we can do it between ourselves
>>273459
>The thing is you can do all this bullshit about self improvement
It's not about self-improvement, it's about bettering a bad situation (i.e. bad health do to poor diet).
>The thing is you can do all this bullshit about self improvement
It's not about self-improvement, it's about bettering a bad situation (i.e. bad health do to poor diet).
>>273468
theres no advice to give
either you feel like going out there and getting things done or not
theres plenty of jobs that people in their 40s or 50s get into, as complete beginners with no knowledge, but then learning as they go
no one gives a shit
theres no advice to give
either you feel like going out there and getting things done or not
theres plenty of jobs that people in their 40s or 50s get into, as complete beginners with no knowledge, but then learning as they go
no one gives a shit
>>273485
Those are almost always second career normies. Followed by rehabilitated criminals. I rarely ever heard of grand level wizards getting their life in order at advanced age.
I don't disagree with your statements but to provide examples of normal people isn't very relatable. To have a 40-50 year old man leave his parents basement and then start living where everyone else did already at age 16. Oof. That's completely different than a guy who has been on the grind from teenager to age 40s-50s. Then got tired of decades of the sameness for grinding something else.
Those are almost always second career normies. Followed by rehabilitated criminals. I rarely ever heard of grand level wizards getting their life in order at advanced age.
I don't disagree with your statements but to provide examples of normal people isn't very relatable. To have a 40-50 year old man leave his parents basement and then start living where everyone else did already at age 16. Oof. That's completely different than a guy who has been on the grind from teenager to age 40s-50s. Then got tired of decades of the sameness for grinding something else.
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>>273445
>After many years of being part of this community
JFC. This is a CHAN. It's an IMAGEBOARD. Why the fuck would anyone ever call this a COMMUNITY?! Are you a female, because for some reason I've only ever heard succubi use that term.
You wouldn't call a mosh pit a community, and for the same reason you wouldn't call a chan a community. Everyone on chans are assholes, we're all known to be assholes, we're all completely unhelpful, if you ever thought for one second that this place was open and helpful then tell me what drugs you are using OP because you are taking some strong shit.
>After many years of being part of this community
JFC. This is a CHAN. It's an IMAGEBOARD. Why the fuck would anyone ever call this a COMMUNITY?! Are you a female, because for some reason I've only ever heard succubi use that term.
You wouldn't call a mosh pit a community, and for the same reason you wouldn't call a chan a community. Everyone on chans are assholes, we're all known to be assholes, we're all completely unhelpful, if you ever thought for one second that this place was open and helpful then tell me what drugs you are using OP because you are taking some strong shit.
>>273487
>To have a 40-50 year old man leave his parents basement and then start living where everyone else did already at age 16. Oof. That's completely different than a guy who has been on the grind from teenager to age 40s-50s. Then got tired of decades of the sameness for grinding something else
The point is no one cares. Once you're past a certain age, people outside your immediate family stop criticizing your life choices. And if you mature enough, you stop giving a fuck about other people's opinions.
>>273491
>This is a CHAN. It's an IMAGEBOARD. Why the fuck would anyone ever call this a COMMUNITY
Wizchan is different than other imageboards. This forum tends to get smaller with time, we don't really have many outsiders besides crabs. In other words, it's always the same <100 users posting or lurking. This forum dies with us. That sounds like a "community" to me.
>if you ever thought for one second that this place was open and helpful
Wizchan in general is open and helpful for wizzies. Maybe not necessarily /dep/ (unless you want to whine, nothing wrong with that).
>To have a 40-50 year old man leave his parents basement and then start living where everyone else did already at age 16. Oof. That's completely different than a guy who has been on the grind from teenager to age 40s-50s. Then got tired of decades of the sameness for grinding something else
The point is no one cares. Once you're past a certain age, people outside your immediate family stop criticizing your life choices. And if you mature enough, you stop giving a fuck about other people's opinions.
>>273491
>This is a CHAN. It's an IMAGEBOARD. Why the fuck would anyone ever call this a COMMUNITY
Wizchan is different than other imageboards. This forum tends to get smaller with time, we don't really have many outsiders besides crabs. In other words, it's always the same <100 users posting or lurking. This forum dies with us. That sounds like a "community" to me.
>if you ever thought for one second that this place was open and helpful
Wizchan in general is open and helpful for wizzies. Maybe not necessarily /dep/ (unless you want to whine, nothing wrong with that).
>>273500
It's not a community simply because it's intolerant to outsiders – it simply contrasts that with other internet based non-communities.
It's not a community simply because it's intolerant to outsiders – it simply contrasts that with other internet based non-communities.
>>273487
this guy is right sadly
>>273492
>>273500
i dont think people dont care
i cant imagine an employeer hiring you after you did nothing until 30 over some zoomer
the people valuing wisdom will want your experience from working 10 years and not from neeting
every late bloomer story i read it was someone with a normal life path or someone who hustled for years i heard no stories about late bloomer neets
sure you could become so good at something that people cant ignore you but after 10 years of idle neeting that doesnt happen
this guy is right sadly
>>273492
>>273500
i dont think people dont care
i cant imagine an employeer hiring you after you did nothing until 30 over some zoomer
the people valuing wisdom will want your experience from working 10 years and not from neeting
every late bloomer story i read it was someone with a normal life path or someone who hustled for years i heard no stories about late bloomer neets
sure you could become so good at something that people cant ignore you but after 10 years of idle neeting that doesnt happen
>>273445
You can solve your problems but you can't solve your solutions. Life is just coping, you'll never undo the root of your unhappiness, there was a reason you ended up here and others didn't and that reason is in essence a deep pervasive alienation. You can learn to disguise yourself better but you don't change.
t. also stopped whining but only because I prefer to suffer in silence now
You can solve your problems but you can't solve your solutions. Life is just coping, you'll never undo the root of your unhappiness, there was a reason you ended up here and others didn't and that reason is in essence a deep pervasive alienation. You can learn to disguise yourself better but you don't change.
t. also stopped whining but only because I prefer to suffer in silence now
I'm a wizard, probably one of the only wizards on this site. Most of the people here are just kids or otherwise lack life perspective. Imagine thinking self improvement is just for normies, get your head out of your ass.
>>273515
It depends what you think it means.
- You are yourself. You can only be yourself. The concept of the self improving the self is some psychosis shit.
- Most 'self improvement' on the internet refers to training to be a normalfag which would only serve to harm a wizard.
- Learning skills in general? Of course that's great. Maybe that's all you interpret it to mean? That's your normal self doing what it naturally does, you don't need to force it with some psyop 'self-improvement' psychosis meme. It's not really what people refer to.
t. also over 30 wizard
It depends what you think it means.
- You are yourself. You can only be yourself. The concept of the self improving the self is some psychosis shit.
- Most 'self improvement' on the internet refers to training to be a normalfag which would only serve to harm a wizard.
- Learning skills in general? Of course that's great. Maybe that's all you interpret it to mean? That's your normal self doing what it naturally does, you don't need to force it with some psyop 'self-improvement' psychosis meme. It's not really what people refer to.
t. also over 30 wizard
>>273468
The main thing you seem to need to fix is your mindset. You even seem to be assuming that you would be better off if you got a degree. My regret is the opposite: I tried very hard and got degrees but it was all a scam. There is no reason to feel a sense of blame or responsibility for your regrets; we are not in control of who we are and what happens to us
The main thing you seem to need to fix is your mindset. You even seem to be assuming that you would be better off if you got a degree. My regret is the opposite: I tried very hard and got degrees but it was all a scam. There is no reason to feel a sense of blame or responsibility for your regrets; we are not in control of who we are and what happens to us
>>273487
grand level wizards are never heard of at all. Crab stereotypes and such do not apply
grand level wizards are never heard of at all. Crab stereotypes and such do not apply
>>273507
>It's not a community simply because it's intolerant to outsiders
Wizchan is a community. This forum is too self-isolated and self-governed compared to other plain internet forums. We got our own board language, mannerisms and rules, and these are mostly untainted from external sources. Introducing new members to this forum is frowned upon too.
That sounds like a community to me. I'm not implying we should start advertising this forum as a welcoming community for "volcels".
>It's not a community simply because it's intolerant to outsiders
Wizchan is a community. This forum is too self-isolated and self-governed compared to other plain internet forums. We got our own board language, mannerisms and rules, and these are mostly untainted from external sources. Introducing new members to this forum is frowned upon too.
That sounds like a community to me. I'm not implying we should start advertising this forum as a welcoming community for "volcels".
>>273521
My issue is that I did _NOTHING_
People feel regret over bad decisions that only appear bad in hindsight. Like studying engineering instead of art. You might regret it because engineering seems boring to you but if you studied art you might have wished you studied engineering because you would have more money. Well if you do nothing like me the result is 100% obvious since doing nothing has no potential.
My issue is that I did _NOTHING_
People feel regret over bad decisions that only appear bad in hindsight. Like studying engineering instead of art. You might regret it because engineering seems boring to you but if you studied art you might have wished you studied engineering because you would have more money. Well if you do nothing like me the result is 100% obvious since doing nothing has no potential.
>>273468
I feel like I lost literally my entire 20's. Like you I just did nothing. I don't even remember anything from that decade. It scares me because now I realize this could probably just continue for another 10 years and the next thing I know I'll be 40 and my parents will be decrepit or dying.
I feel like I lost literally my entire 20's. Like you I just did nothing. I don't even remember anything from that decade. It scares me because now I realize this could probably just continue for another 10 years and the next thing I know I'll be 40 and my parents will be decrepit or dying.
>>273543
Doing nothing is better than some university fuck up. You dont get in huge debt or jail etc from doing nothing. Being comfy inside and avoiding wageslavery for many years is better than even the vast majority of normalfags who end up in debt and with diseases, burdenous children etc
Doing nothing is better than some university fuck up. You dont get in huge debt or jail etc from doing nothing. Being comfy inside and avoiding wageslavery for many years is better than even the vast majority of normalfags who end up in debt and with diseases, burdenous children etc
>>273561
Cope. University is free in most of the world and those with degrees have to wageslave less time for the same money and they do easier work too. It is better to die than to live as a prole.
Cope. University is free in most of the world and those with degrees have to wageslave less time for the same money and they do easier work too. It is better to die than to live as a prole.
>>273570
>>273576
>it's not a cope because im the one that spent years getting degrees
>university is not free in most of the world: https://www.theedadvocate.org/which-countries-provide-free-education-at-a-university-level/
>degrees don't even help you get a job at all, and those jobs which require degrees are more demanding and competitive
>>273576
>it's not a cope because im the one that spent years getting degrees
>university is not free in most of the world: https://www.theedadvocate.org/which-countries-provide-free-education-at-a-university-level/
>degrees don't even help you get a job at all, and those jobs which require degrees are more demanding and competitive
Do not blame yourself for what you cannot control. Never stop asking advice here under for whatever, no matter how rare the problem is
>>273468
>>273556
Another nothingner here. Tried a few jobs, tried college but dropped oit quickly. All I did was browse imageboards, occasionally shitpost but mostly lurk from my phone in bed. Didn't even play fucking videogames or watch anime. Didn't try making friends. Literally nothing. But I want to think I at least changed a bit mentally, you are the sum of the people you spend most of your time around or something, the alternative was my parents which are drooling tv addicts. Better than playing single player vidya like I did in my teens.
>>273543
>Well if you do nothing like me the result is 100% obvious since doing nothing has no potential.
"Nothing" is not literally nothing. I bet you feel a suicidality you never even thought possible at 24, I sure fucking do. That "nothing" created burning rage, self and external hatred. That's potential, of the bad kind. Fuck me I'm coping hard here knowing I wasted my peak years, what matters is we learned something from this right?
>>273556
Another nothingner here. Tried a few jobs, tried college but dropped oit quickly. All I did was browse imageboards, occasionally shitpost but mostly lurk from my phone in bed. Didn't even play fucking videogames or watch anime. Didn't try making friends. Literally nothing. But I want to think I at least changed a bit mentally, you are the sum of the people you spend most of your time around or something, the alternative was my parents which are drooling tv addicts. Better than playing single player vidya like I did in my teens.
>>273543
>Well if you do nothing like me the result is 100% obvious since doing nothing has no potential.
"Nothing" is not literally nothing. I bet you feel a suicidality you never even thought possible at 24, I sure fucking do. That "nothing" created burning rage, self and external hatred. That's potential, of the bad kind. Fuck me I'm coping hard here knowing I wasted my peak years, what matters is we learned something from this right?
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>>273445
To be or not to be. I'm a 22 year old reading all of this and I feel like I will end up like most of you simply because lack of motivation. I could escape this hellhole, focus on getting a career and all that jazz. But why? What's the incentive? To be happy even though marriages most of the time don't work out and your job will probably work you to death? I'm pretty comfortable where I am and I like living a comfortable boring life. It could always be worse yknow.
To be or not to be. I'm a 22 year old reading all of this and I feel like I will end up like most of you simply because lack of motivation. I could escape this hellhole, focus on getting a career and all that jazz. But why? What's the incentive? To be happy even though marriages most of the time don't work out and your job will probably work you to death? I'm pretty comfortable where I am and I like living a comfortable boring life. It could always be worse yknow.
>>273812
>But why? What's the incentive?
You're vulnerable without money and status. You won't realize it until you get burned like I have. If you don't have family willing to support you, and you're out renting rooms, you're vulnerable if you have no money. Say you're broke and you're living with someone that's standing you over and picking on you? You can't afford to move out right away, so it's either homelessness, police involvement or being passively bullied. Say you fail to get a qualification and work shitty low status jobs, because you're replaceable you'll be more likely to be treated like shit.
That's the real reason to get motivated to do things, because life catches up to you and your experience at 30 isn't the same at 22. People stop making allowances for you at around 27. You don't need lots of money or lots of status, having a low tier qualification and being lower middle class and renting your own apartment is enough to be safe.
If you live in a sweden tier country with comfortable NEETbux then yeah, go hard for it. But where I live NEETbux are not comfortable, and if you're on them and have no family support, you will be living around crackheads and other fuck ups.
>But why? What's the incentive?
You're vulnerable without money and status. You won't realize it until you get burned like I have. If you don't have family willing to support you, and you're out renting rooms, you're vulnerable if you have no money. Say you're broke and you're living with someone that's standing you over and picking on you? You can't afford to move out right away, so it's either homelessness, police involvement or being passively bullied. Say you fail to get a qualification and work shitty low status jobs, because you're replaceable you'll be more likely to be treated like shit.
That's the real reason to get motivated to do things, because life catches up to you and your experience at 30 isn't the same at 22. People stop making allowances for you at around 27. You don't need lots of money or lots of status, having a low tier qualification and being lower middle class and renting your own apartment is enough to be safe.
If you live in a sweden tier country with comfortable NEETbux then yeah, go hard for it. But where I live NEETbux are not comfortable, and if you're on them and have no family support, you will be living around crackheads and other fuck ups.
>>273825
> You're vulnerable without money and status.
This is solid advice.
People love to discharge their frustrations on vulnerable people.
> You're vulnerable without money and status.
This is solid advice.
People love to discharge their frustrations on vulnerable people.
>>273835
>People love to discharge their frustrations on vulnerable people.
It's observable in animals, that's how simple it is. When a male ape loses a battle for dominance with another male, they go and beat up the female or lower ranking males to feel better. Robert Sapolsky ties it to stress hormones and how high dominance apes have less stress, and they reduce it partially in the aforementioned way.
>People love to discharge their frustrations on vulnerable people.
It's observable in animals, that's how simple it is. When a male ape loses a battle for dominance with another male, they go and beat up the female or lower ranking males to feel better. Robert Sapolsky ties it to stress hormones and how high dominance apes have less stress, and they reduce it partially in the aforementioned way.
>>273825
Couldn't agree more wiz. The world is a pretty harsh place, especially when you live on your own without any family support. Strangers who rent you a room won't give a damn about you at the end of the day, they just want the rent money.
>You're vulnerable without money and status.
This is super important, if you don't have the money and skills to be able to survive on your own, others can easily take advantage of you and you'll be at the mercy of others. That's not the life you want to live.
>>273812
>I'm a 22 year old reading all of this
you're a grown man being supported by mom and dad. Eventually they'll get old, they'll get tired of supporting you, they won't be able to take care of you and you'll probably end up out on the streets on your ass. Trust me, I was once in your shoes, its all fun and games being a NEET in your early 20s, but it's a totally different game once you're over 30 and you still don't have your shit together and don't have a stable career or a job.
>I'm pretty comfortable where I am and I like living a comfortable boring life
see above, that's only possible due to you being supported by others. It's not sustainable. If you don't focus on bettering yourself & figuring out a way to earn your own money, you might be setting yourself up for a really bad outcome later in life.
Couldn't agree more wiz. The world is a pretty harsh place, especially when you live on your own without any family support. Strangers who rent you a room won't give a damn about you at the end of the day, they just want the rent money.
>You're vulnerable without money and status.
This is super important, if you don't have the money and skills to be able to survive on your own, others can easily take advantage of you and you'll be at the mercy of others. That's not the life you want to live.
>>273812
>I'm a 22 year old reading all of this
you're a grown man being supported by mom and dad. Eventually they'll get old, they'll get tired of supporting you, they won't be able to take care of you and you'll probably end up out on the streets on your ass. Trust me, I was once in your shoes, its all fun and games being a NEET in your early 20s, but it's a totally different game once you're over 30 and you still don't have your shit together and don't have a stable career or a job.
>I'm pretty comfortable where I am and I like living a comfortable boring life
see above, that's only possible due to you being supported by others. It's not sustainable. If you don't focus on bettering yourself & figuring out a way to earn your own money, you might be setting yourself up for a really bad outcome later in life.
>>273543
>My issue is that I did _NOTHING_
Yea that's called being lazy wiz. You didn't do anything to succeed and now you're reaping the results of it. Sorry if it sounds harsh but that's just how it is. Nobody is coming to save you, only you can.
>My issue is that I did _NOTHING_
Yea that's called being lazy wiz. You didn't do anything to succeed and now you're reaping the results of it. Sorry if it sounds harsh but that's just how it is. Nobody is coming to save you, only you can.
>>273812
Oh I still remember when I was 22 and thinking that my comfy NEET lifestyle would last forever, now I'm 27 and I learned that the only way to be relatively comfy is with a job to pay the bills and shit unless you're rich you will have to get one eventually because your parents WILL get tired of you, trust me one day they will realize that spending the rest of their lives taking care of some grown ass adult that refuses to work is hell and will kick you out.
Oh I still remember when I was 22 and thinking that my comfy NEET lifestyle would last forever, now I'm 27 and I learned that the only way to be relatively comfy is with a job to pay the bills and shit unless you're rich you will have to get one eventually because your parents WILL get tired of you, trust me one day they will realize that spending the rest of their lives taking care of some grown ass adult that refuses to work is hell and will kick you out.
>>273840
What advice would you give a 22 year old with not wanting to do any career? I barely passed high school and work at a warehouse now, nothing comes in mind what I wanna do with my life that doesn't make me wanna kill myself.
What advice would you give a 22 year old with not wanting to do any career? I barely passed high school and work at a warehouse now, nothing comes in mind what I wanna do with my life that doesn't make me wanna kill myself.
>>273842
get so good they cant ignore you, then you can work as little as you want. the more skills you have, the more that you can negotiate with your (potential) employer
get so good they cant ignore you, then you can work as little as you want. the more skills you have, the more that you can negotiate with your (potential) employer
>>273842
You could invest some extra money in stocks, precious metals, or even crypto. You either win, or you get another reason to an hero
You could invest some extra money in stocks, precious metals, or even crypto. You either win, or you get another reason to an hero
>>273842
Just don't be like the typical zoomercuck and quit your job cause you're "depressed" or whatever. If you have a source of income right now, you're in a good spot. It's better then being an unemployed NEET sitting at home all day. You don't need to go to college to be successful, but you do need to have a plan for what you want to do with your life. Don't worry if you don't know what to do right now, at your age I didn't either. I'd say just focus on working, saving your money, and maybe investing a little bit of it each month. Read books, exercise, work on developing your social skills, make connections where you can in case you might need to get a job elsewhere. You don't need to become some normie, but you should work on eventually becoming self-sufficient and being able to support yourself in life. Good luck wiz.
Just don't be like the typical zoomercuck and quit your job cause you're "depressed" or whatever. If you have a source of income right now, you're in a good spot. It's better then being an unemployed NEET sitting at home all day. You don't need to go to college to be successful, but you do need to have a plan for what you want to do with your life. Don't worry if you don't know what to do right now, at your age I didn't either. I'd say just focus on working, saving your money, and maybe investing a little bit of it each month. Read books, exercise, work on developing your social skills, make connections where you can in case you might need to get a job elsewhere. You don't need to become some normie, but you should work on eventually becoming self-sufficient and being able to support yourself in life. Good luck wiz.
I'm the same age as you, but I feel different, I don't think it's very wise to project so much of yourself onto others, everyone's situation is unique no matter how easy it is to sterotype them all. I find it much more rewarding to listen and learn about other wiz's lives without neccesarilly having to relate with them, rather we can mutually share our experiences and maybe learn something from our differences that have drawn us to live such similar lives
>>273846
I was being grilled once about a suicide friend because two rounds had been discharged, but only one went into his head. They were trying to figure that I'd put him up to it or something. But obviously the first round was a test fire to make sure everything was going to go as planned. I mean duh.
Don't forget to test fire first if you're seriously planning on noping out that way. How dumb would you feel if it just went "click" and then you're sitting there wondering how to explain that you were just HODL $GME like the internet told you?
I was being grilled once about a suicide friend because two rounds had been discharged, but only one went into his head. They were trying to figure that I'd put him up to it or something. But obviously the first round was a test fire to make sure everything was going to go as planned. I mean duh.
Don't forget to test fire first if you're seriously planning on noping out that way. How dumb would you feel if it just went "click" and then you're sitting there wondering how to explain that you were just HODL $GME like the internet told you?
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>>273787
I'm 23 and really close to get my bacc. all I have to do is my final work, yet I'm just too lazy. I started doing it and did a few pages and then a few days nothing. Literally 0 motivation to do anything, because I don't see any point in doing anything. Getting a degree and a job just for the sake of it and to maybe move from my parents house, but I feel so miserable every time I go outside. I rather spend time reading or browsing internet than doing something which can actually improve my life. But I think that the real reason for that is that I just don't see how my life can possibly be improved. Even if I do it and get a job I will still be the same guy, I don't feel like anything will change at all. But I have to do it anyway because I don't want to end up 30 and still spending whole days at home.
>>273787
I'm 23 and really close to get my bacc. all I have to do is my final work, yet I'm just too lazy. I started doing it and did a few pages and then a few days nothing. Literally 0 motivation to do anything, because I don't see any point in doing anything. Getting a degree and a job just for the sake of it and to maybe move from my parents house, but I feel so miserable every time I go outside. I rather spend time reading or browsing internet than doing something which can actually improve my life. But I think that the real reason for that is that I just don't see how my life can possibly be improved. Even if I do it and get a job I will still be the same guy, I don't feel like anything will change at all. But I have to do it anyway because I don't want to end up 30 and still spending whole days at home.
>>273840
Oh yeah, same here. 22 is like the ideal time to NEET if you just got out of college or something. Cherish it, for maybe you'll get anywhere from a few months to a few years or more but yes your parents will eventually get tired of you. And the longer you stay like that, the worse it will look to other people. You'll eventually be pretty screwed trying to find a job or make friends.
>>274971
That's actually some really good wisdom right there. I might save this quip. Have you learned any interesting perspectives from what you've read?
Oh yeah, same here. 22 is like the ideal time to NEET if you just got out of college or something. Cherish it, for maybe you'll get anywhere from a few months to a few years or more but yes your parents will eventually get tired of you. And the longer you stay like that, the worse it will look to other people. You'll eventually be pretty screwed trying to find a job or make friends.
>>274971
That's actually some really good wisdom right there. I might save this quip. Have you learned any interesting perspectives from what you've read?
27, I dont relate to anyone anymore. But I also dont see point in trying to set myself apart by tearing others down. Consciously or not, you chose the phrase "whining" because of the negative connotation. The tacit implication is that you've surpassed or ascended the losers posting here. Its okay if you feel you have nothing to gain from a place like this, but why do you feel the need to put others down when you yourself admitted to spending years here. I wouldn't call it whining, I'd say its venting, which is important for people to be able to do. More socially integrated people vent to their friends family and loved ones, and wizanons vent on imageboards. Nothing wrong with that. Also you should realize at 29 that not all problems necessarily have a neat and clean solution. Some people have illnesses that cant be cured, or have lost things that can never be regained. Venting is part of the process to acceptance.
I do agree with the sentiment many others here stated. Online communities seem far less appealing nowadays. Real life feels equally unrewarding for me as I age. I have no answer for what awaits, isolation is fine with me but I hate that even my hobbies and interests have also lost their luster. I always envisioned spending life just working on those things, I was purely convinced that my interests would carry me through life so long as I had the space and means to pursue them. I'm not so sure that's true anymore.
Either way best of luck to you. I hope you find peace of sorts
I do agree with the sentiment many others here stated. Online communities seem far less appealing nowadays. Real life feels equally unrewarding for me as I age. I have no answer for what awaits, isolation is fine with me but I hate that even my hobbies and interests have also lost their luster. I always envisioned spending life just working on those things, I was purely convinced that my interests would carry me through life so long as I had the space and means to pursue them. I'm not so sure that's true anymore.
Either way best of luck to you. I hope you find peace of sorts
>>276521
>But I think that the real reason for that is that I just don't see how my life can possibly be improved.
You need to realize that you constantly change as a person. When I was 23 I had no real interests and thought that as long as I have internet and a cheap laptop to browse imageboards and read manga I will be fine so I didn't have much motivation to study. Now I wish I had money to buy nice things and travel and haven't watched anime or read manga in years. I also get jealous reading about what interesting things people get to experience because of their job. Spending time online only will get boring real soon trust me.
Stop trying to predict how you will feel about something. I think whatever you do it's important to just keep moving. Even if you end up being bored with your job having a degree and job experience is better than nothing.
>But I think that the real reason for that is that I just don't see how my life can possibly be improved.
You need to realize that you constantly change as a person. When I was 23 I had no real interests and thought that as long as I have internet and a cheap laptop to browse imageboards and read manga I will be fine so I didn't have much motivation to study. Now I wish I had money to buy nice things and travel and haven't watched anime or read manga in years. I also get jealous reading about what interesting things people get to experience because of their job. Spending time online only will get boring real soon trust me.
Stop trying to predict how you will feel about something. I think whatever you do it's important to just keep moving. Even if you end up being bored with your job having a degree and job experience is better than nothing.
>>273842
Forklift license, first aid certificate and a low level trucking license is all you need to put yourself at a leg up above the bottom tier. Forklift certified is a meme, but it does help for that initial push.
Forklift license, first aid certificate and a low level trucking license is all you need to put yourself at a leg up above the bottom tier. Forklift certified is a meme, but it does help for that initial push.
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>>273445
Life is big mistake itself. stop shaming everyone with your mistakes Mom
Life is big mistake itself. stop shaming everyone with your mistakes Mom