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 No.275190

I miss being a pothead so much. All day chilling and feeling good while listening to music… I miss that. I can't smoke weed anymore because I think I developed schizophrenia after a psychotic episode I had after sniffing some shitty cocaine (ended up in a mental hospital for 15 days). Every time I tried weed after that episode, I didn't get the usual effects, just felt really awful, confused and paranoid.

I smoked for one year, been sober for 5 years and I still crave it every single day.

If you can still smoke, then smoke it. Smoke it everyday. Life is awful. There's nothing wrong with getting high 24/7 to forget your problems. I'm sober and it's not worth it. I'd do anything to go to the time when I was a pothead. It was the best period of my life.

Some people suggested drinking to cope, but I hate alcohol. It's not the same thing.

 No.275192

>>275190
I feel you bro but I have to say it: beware the troll that hates weed. Sorry but he's going to post in this thread about how you're a retard for liking weed and how you should be successful bro

 No.275202

>If you can still smoke, then smoke it. Smoke it everyday. Life is awful.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-long-term-effects-brain

Marijuana is bad for your health. that's why you're so fucked after being addicted to it for so long. You clearly made a mistake by taking that drug now there's not coming back. To all the young kids who read this post, don't do drugs. It's for niggers and it will only make things worse.

 No.275213

>>275190
That's a sad story, OP

 No.275214

OPs post is literally the definition of withdrawals, addiction and depression and that's why you're better off not getting into it.

 No.275220

Even though I dont agree with your current conclusion, I still find the description of how you feel very relatable as I've had the same train of thoughts a lot of times.

I smoked lots of weed in my life on/off sometimes for several years straight and I got into it early and even after quitting for a longer time I still often crave it too. Those cravings are withdrawals symptoms which are known to not just dissappear after quitting because it's a mental dependency and not a physical one that exits your system after detoxing and a lot of it is linked to your lifestyle and triggers.

If you smoke weed to deal with a difficult life then once you stop smoking those difficulties will automatically worsen along with your withdrawal symptoms. You will also prevent yourself from learning how to deal with your life without abusing a substance as long as you keep smoking and this along with the withdrawals can quickly put you into a hamster wheel type situation. If you have a difficult life then the best advice is to not get into any drugs at all because it will just sedate and delude you with good feelings while preventing you from making relevant progress in your 'actual' sober life and it will make you dependent on the effects of the substance.


Even if you feel cravings try to struggle and stay away from weed as much as possible, don't just give up and even if you fall don't think that you're gonna be trapped by weed forever and don't be too hard on yourself if it is difficult.

I'm not judging you at all and I've been in the exact same boat as you, it's all a big learning process and these cravings will decrease if you keep self-reflecting and analyzing what things are good for you and which things you better avoid while adjusting certain things in your life.

 No.275229

Why does it seem like every McMerican is/has been a stoner? Is it the nigger influence?

 No.275232

>>275229
It's legal in quite a few states now, so even socially retarded virgins have easy access so long as they are over 21,

 No.275233

>>275232
Over the last decade it became even more mainstream in the west and even European countries consider legalizing more and more because too many people do it anyway and governments want to at least have a controlled situation.

Weed smoking has been popular for decades but the modern weed culture is even more excessive because people grow up frying their teenage brains with modern high thc strains and dabs that are way more potent than what people used to smoke and it's ironic how we also have an opioid crisis among young people because so many of them take percs and xanax now.

It seems like just another proof that anything will get extreme and out of hand when it's done too frequently and too casually.

 No.275234

>>275214
Texas sharpshooter fallacy

 No.275236

>>275190
i only do concentrates like live resin or rosin. i used to smoke but the smoke started really messing with my head, i don't think i can smoke marijuana anymore. so this smokeless concentrate dabbing has worked for me.

 No.275256

>>275229
They promote the use of the drug while keeping it illegal so that cops can have an excuse to search people by saying they smelled marijuana. The widespread use makes it so they can search just about anyone.

 No.275257

>>275229
I wonder that as well, though many european countries are exactly the same

 No.275264

When I got my medical marijuana card it was like my suicidal urges were instantly cured almost like magic. I can imagine living the rest of my life like this. When sober, not so much.

 No.275265

>>275236
In my experience everything besides burning flower has been a gimmick and very lame. Vaping, concentrates, and edibles are both weaker than just burning flower.

 No.275268

>>275265
>In my experience everything besides burning flower has been a gimmick and very lame. Vaping, concentrates, and edibles are both weaker than just burning flower.

Dabs have a THC percentage of 50-90 while flower on average is around 18-30 so concentrates are way more potent. The buds of the strongest strain are around 35% only because it's not possible to cultivate flower to the potency of a concentrate.

Edibles are indeed weaker than buds but a lot of people prefer them because the effect often lasts longer. Vaping depends on the THC dosage of the cartridge but if you vape buds then its the same thing obviously.

I'm glad I didn't grow up with dabs and all that shit otherwise I would have made myself even more retarded.

 No.275276

>>275268
>it's not possible to cultivate flower to the potency of a concentrate.
You can do the same by just smoking more grams of flower. 1 gram of wax is 3-6g of bud. I would rather smoke a couple of joints throughout the day than have to constantly burn up wax.

 No.275277

>starts binging an addictive drug that's been banned for hundreds of years because it does irreparable damage to the brain, especially dopamine responses
>gets brain damage, inhibited dopamine response

You are a fool, but its good you're sharing your experience with young men so they are less likely to fall in to the trap of "feel good" drugs.

 No.275279

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>>275268
You are confusing consumption amount with potency. A gram of wax could be 7grams of shitty weed that you wouldn't normally smoke. Or it could a gram of wax from 2-3grams of high THC flower. Burning a 0.3g of wax is the same as smoking 1.5g of flower that you can pace yourself with and not have to smoke in one go. Flower is still king with the way weed works it's way better to be comfy high throughout the day rather than extremely high once a day.

 No.275280

>>275277
Lol, lay off the /pol/ friend.

 No.275281

>>275277
Thanks, can you just show a high quality study that demonstrates irreparable brain damage to the brain, especially in its "dopamine responses"? Would love to see it

 No.275290

i've been smoking weed in ridiculously small quantities for 10 years maybe twice a week. imagine a small joint and then i take like 3-5 small inhaltaions once in the evening and once at night. that's similar to a small quantity of wine. i noticed lots of stoners they always do more and more and more and i never did. i kept the quantity steadily low and what did increase was my sensitivity. i believe my nervous system is a rare ultra-sensitive, i can always hear people whisper across rooms and shit.

i don't really know what microdosing is but i think what i'm doing qualifies. i'm not on it the whole year. i do about 2 long breaks of at least 2 months per year to get completely sober.

knowing what i know now weed is best reserved to help your spirit survive the dreadful winter in cold climates. all day everyday is not a good idea i think.

seems to me you'd benefit from living very clean for a while. fresh orange juice or smoothy for breakfast, no smoking, no drugs, daily cardio, sweating, positive thoughts. detox all those residual chemicals out of your body and adjust to just sober existence a bit. find the joy in it and then after some psychological and physical detox has happened, humbly try again.

 No.275291

>>275202

>Marijuana is bad for your health.

no?

>that's why you're so fucked after being addicted to it for so long.

if i can't get weed then i pout and sigh. that's not addiction, that's not nervously chewing on fingernails with beady little eyes while hyperventilating, that's missing a friend.

>You clearly made a mistake by taking that drug now there's not coming back.


oh put your megaphone away dr fauci. there is coming back, there is coming and going. you know nothing besides going to the barbershop and growing a mustache. substances as well as neurological pathways are not permanent, the human organism has eviction mechanisms, regeneration mechanisms.

if you live an unambitious live then weed is not gonna help you become more productive but when you are already productive and have self-discipline then weed is not gonna stop you from being that. your entire train of thought is a theater play loudly denying choice and free will disguised as anti-drug propaganda.

 No.275294

>>275290
This has been similar to my experience. I did it heavily for a year and it not only becomes weaker but you feel sick from it. I smoke half a joint every night after work, and it’s great to just sedate yourself and enjoy.

 No.275295

I know people blame drugs and shit, but I've never regularly drank, smoked, or done drugs and my experience of life has been shit. Complaining about weed being the problem is no way 100% accurate, you can live a clean life and still have a fucked experience.

 No.275303

When I smoked heavy I without a doubt started developing schizophrenia like symptoms. My paranoid thoughts i had when i was high would bleed into my normal non-high life. I took a few years break from weed.

Now I just do it occasionally on weekends when I feel I have a safe block of time. Basically as long as I can be alone and in a safe situation I know I can minimize the paranoia I feel. I won't smoke either if I have some kind of negative problem weighing in to heavily on my mind. Eg; if I cant stop worrying about work or w/e i won't smoke. Not a safe mental state to change my mental state in.

This has the added benefit of long tolerance breaks, resulting in extremely powerful highs. Masturbation feels is actually enjoyable when high, which is a major reason why i still use.

I'll probably continue smoking once every few weeks on weekends the rest of my life.

 No.275310

When I used to smoke weed it always felt like my life was on stand-by because nothing I did while I was high had any significance and I never had any memories of what I did. When sober I can autistically remember and think about some small stuff I saw on the internet weeks ago but when I was high all the time I just did things on autopilot without any purpose, I think that's why many stoners make art so they at least have a bit of purpose and the feeling of progress with that because they can see/hear it.

Your personal development gets stunted by it and you will make mental progress much slower so if you're a young adult with mental struggles or a very problematic life then you are sabotaging yourself. In my early 20s I thought I'm gonna be smoking weed forever because there's no other way to go through life and I was always completely fucked when I ran out of weed. After a few years I took longer and longer breaks from smoking and at some point I started to self-reflect way more because I started to see the clear difference between how I think and act when I'm high in comparison to when I'm sober.

If you would have never smoked weed then your life wouldn't have been worse but you would most likely be way closer to feeling content with your life without sedating yourself because you went through the rain already and I know this is hard to believe when you're going through major depression or when you heavily depend on weed and I used to get upset when anyone suggested something like this but it's true and I think most of you will realize this sooner or later, drugs are really just another burden that add weight on your back.

 No.275316

>>275291
>if i can't get weed then i pout and sigh. that's not addiction, that's not nervously chewing on fingernails with beady little eyes while hyperventilating, that's missing a friend.

Thats withdrawal symptoms but you can call it whatever. You and OP have their own words for things but I've been there as well so I won't judge.

 No.275342

THC is bad for you this is extremely well researched op is a normie case closed

>>275229
peer pressure and normalization of teen substance use as if it's okay. It's fucking ridiculous how we juvenilize the young and let them get off with all kinds of antisocial behavior despite them being fully within the range of accountability. But muh hormones! But EVERYBODY at that age abuses drugs and alcohol so it MUST be good, etc. Fuckin normie 101

 No.275343

>>275291
>Marijuana is bad for your health.
>no?

Fuckin lel who'se he fauci here man all the libtards normalized drug abuse back in 2010 to win an election

 No.275370

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>>275342
Oh no! Not antisocial behavior! Those poor chillun.

 No.275371

>>275370
you're a normie with shitty rpg stats. You fell for a lib awareness program shilled on fucking Reddit and TV for nearly a decade to make you addicted to a neurotoxin that makes you lethargic and stupid. HAHAHA SO FUNNNEEY SETH JOE EPSTEIN ROGAN SMOKEESSS DAT HERB XDDDDD just fucking neck it's over

 No.275372

>>275342
THC hasn't been studied much because it's illegal to do studies with it. What little research there is on it though shows it's essentially harmless.

 No.275373

>>275372
It's not illegal to do studies with THC users

 No.275374

>>275373
Yes, and that's not what I said, I said it's illegal to do studies with THC itself. There have been studies on the users and like I said it's been found to be harmless except from a few studies that were pushed by anti-drug groups and were debunked by later actual studies.

 No.275375

>>275374
"debunked". We have Invitro studies of THC causing brain damage guy. We have Neuroimaging of weedie brains that clearly show damage. We know that short term memory is impaired during use which indicates hippocampus brain damage. Obviously deboonked amirite

 No.275376

>>275375
>>275374
I've heard his short take on this and (((huberman))) does agree with the neurotoxicity position last I checked. Also causes anxiety the weedie constantly complains about

 No.275377

>>275375
>We

cultmember's favorite pronoun

 No.275379

>>275377
oh, so I'm talking to a stupid person unable to defend their normie-derived assertions

 No.275381

>>275375
changes are not the same as damage. Lots of drugs cause changes in the brain. That's the whole point of drugs. If you feel that the changes are beneficial to you, you can do the drug, if you feel they aren't beneficial you don't have to do it. Yes, some stuff like short term memory may be harmed but that doesn't mean there aren't benefits elsewhere that are worth it. There is no evidence of lasting harm, most of the studies that showed such a thing were heavily riddled with teenagers who also used alcohol heavily which is known to cause the sorts of brain damage. When you remove those users from the studies there is essentially no difference.

 No.275382

>>275379

are you currently identifying as an individual or as a totally respectable group of people, i don't mean to be rude to you/all you people.

just include your pronouns in your post, it makes it easier to be polite to you/all you people

 No.275385

>>275381
I've seen the pictures. The "change" is thinning.
>benefits
are in CBD, which can and should be isolated like every other useful compound found in plants. THC is at best for pain management
>no evidence of lasting harm
that's false.
>But muh alcohol
We have case studies of longtime smokers and the damage is obvious
>There's no difference!
You are inventing a rationalization in real time man. We have tissue sampling, brain imagining, and population studies indicating THC harms the brain

 No.275386

>>275385
>You are inventing a rationalization in real time man. We have tissue sampling, brain imagining, and population studies indicating THC harms the brain

how come you don't have those for alcohol?

 No.275387

>>275386
>X is bad? Why aren't you talking about Z????
average weedie logic

 No.275388

>>275387

alcohol is something that is already legal and it is terrible.
weed is very harmless, you could even say it is safe in comparison.

why not use your advanced science to demonstrate that? all you'd have to do is compare weed and alcohol. oh wait because it shows something different then what you want to be true and your favorite river in egypt is denial.

people hate weed for other reasons so they pretend it is dangerous. why not be honest and talk about the real reasons you hate it?

for example why not talk about this strange situation where some people seem to enjoy it and it makes them happy and peaceful (which the average anti-weed crusader already hates, they want everyone to be unhappy and competitive) and then for other people they smoke it and the weight of the world hits them and they become dark and depressed and paranoid (almost as if the drug punishes denial.)

if weed made honest people happy and liars depressed, you would want it to be illegal.

 No.275391

>>275388
>alcohol is bad
true
>so that proves weed is harmless
>so that means my strawmen are true
Weedie logic. I would start listing citations but considering your low demonstrated functional intelligence I can tell it'd be a total waste. THC is a neurtoxin you delusional hippie I don't care how many hours of Mckenna you want to listen to that doesn't change a single aspect of this
>weed makes me le no depressed
have you tried any other dopamine raising substance like St John's wort?

 No.275392

>>275391
>Weedie logic.

it's not logically connected. it does not prove weed is harmless. it means you suck at time management. you waste your time arguing against something that is harmless while something dangerous is widely used. the logical person you are currently pretending to be would not choose to argue against weed, the person you pretend to be would instead encourage people to stop drinking. that's what you would do if logic was on your side.

either you aren't even human and merely repeat your programming, or you never tried it because nobody ever offered you any or you tried it once and it showed you some blindspots you were not able to handle. you know, stuff that you currently believe it is best to not think about.

weed is like the innocent friend you never had that is merely curious and in a way embodies the true spirit of science far better then the current cultural climate around science even permits.

if weed could talk, the conversation might be something like this: "HEY WHAT'S IN THIS ROOM? WHY DID YOU SAY THAT, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT? NO? THEN WHY DID YOU LIE, ARE YOU SCARED? WHY IS IT BETTER TO LIE? NO THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WHY SHOULD I SHUT UP? YEAH BUT WHY?"

weed could show you that you are far from as smart as you would like everyone around you to believe but i guess that is nothing you are interested in.

 No.275393

>>275392
>Proven neurotoxin
>"but it opens up your mind to blind spots"
>"If you don't smoke weeeeeed you're not even human"
Delusional and [citation needed]. This conversation is fucking gay, quit making excuses for such an obviously harmful crutch,

 No.275394

>>275190
>>275192
Told you this would happen.

 No.275395

>>275393
>obviously harmful

what's the obvious harm, that the communists win and your boss makes fewer millions?

>blind spots


yes bitch, the stuff you are in denial about. the thoughts that make you uncomfortable. the things that tickle the nervous laughter out of you. stuff your imaginationless brain calls "crazy". the off-limit stuff.

>"If you don't smoke weeeeeed you're not even human


you don't seem particularly human, i don't think of you as someone who walks through live using your senses and your brain, trying to find out what is happening. you seem like the kind of person who just reads the abstract and blindly believes without doing your own experiments.

i don't think the attempt to make a program generate your answers would be particularly difficult. your opinion does not seem to be any more nuanced then what an AI would interpolate out of known averages. quote studies all you want, until you start using your brain yourself you're nothing but a science-fan.

 No.275503

Getting high sucks when you're alone. So is drinking.

 No.275590

>>275503

nobody likes a sage, everybody likes a mage. sages just want to sit crossarmed in front of the computer, point out typos and shave twice a day.

 No.275592

>>275503
why the fuck would you need people to enjoy drugs such as alcohol and weed? wtf is this normiechan?

 No.276176

>>275232
>It's legal in quite a few states now, so even socially retarded virgins have easy access so long as they are over 21,
A lot of people also get weed and other drugs through DW.
Access to recreational drugs among socially inept recluses isn't so restricted anymore.

 No.276178

>>275592
Doing drugs and alcohol alone can be very lonely and depressing, it's sometimes interesting when you have one friend or two, having a friend doesn't stop you from being a wizard.



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