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Hello wizards,
I am considering becoming a NEET. I have a psychiatric condition which will enable me to collect money from the government. I have a place to live, no issues. I have a supportive family. My questions are as follows: is there anything you wish you knew before becoming NEET? Is it terrible? Is it good?
Suffering has become the defining quality of my existence, and it has been the case for over a decade. I have been on many different medications, to no avail. The best that the medications do is stop psychosis, which is the least they can do. But I can't shake the knowledge that non-being is preferable to being, especially in today's "modern world." I wasn't meant for it. I am almost comically opposed to it in every way, in theory and function. That's a discussion for another day.
I have wanted to die for over a decade, even before the onset of my symptoms, and the only reason I am here is not because of anything keeping me bound here, but because I don't have a reliable method. It's gotten to the point that I understand suicides now. I used to think "but what about the family left behind…" I feel nothing of the sort now anymore. The only feeling I have is shame that my father's son, his only child, would turn out this way.
I'm wondering if NEET will help, to just withdraw from everything. I don't desire anything that society alleges that it can give (money, a succubus, prestige, etc.) I haven't had a friend since high school, and I have no one but my mother and father. I just want to read, write, and make art, and distract myself from my suffering.
Also, part of me wonders if I get my shrink to give me amphetamines, maybe that will help? But I think he will be stingy and claim that it may cause psychosis.
Thank you for reading this, and any input is valued.
I am considering becoming a NEET. I have a psychiatric condition which will enable me to collect money from the government. I have a place to live, no issues. I have a supportive family. My questions are as follows: is there anything you wish you knew before becoming NEET? Is it terrible? Is it good?
Suffering has become the defining quality of my existence, and it has been the case for over a decade. I have been on many different medications, to no avail. The best that the medications do is stop psychosis, which is the least they can do. But I can't shake the knowledge that non-being is preferable to being, especially in today's "modern world." I wasn't meant for it. I am almost comically opposed to it in every way, in theory and function. That's a discussion for another day.
I have wanted to die for over a decade, even before the onset of my symptoms, and the only reason I am here is not because of anything keeping me bound here, but because I don't have a reliable method. It's gotten to the point that I understand suicides now. I used to think "but what about the family left behind…" I feel nothing of the sort now anymore. The only feeling I have is shame that my father's son, his only child, would turn out this way.
I'm wondering if NEET will help, to just withdraw from everything. I don't desire anything that society alleges that it can give (money, a succubus, prestige, etc.) I haven't had a friend since high school, and I have no one but my mother and father. I just want to read, write, and make art, and distract myself from my suffering.
Also, part of me wonders if I get my shrink to give me amphetamines, maybe that will help? But I think he will be stingy and claim that it may cause psychosis.
Thank you for reading this, and any input is valued.
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>>275493
>I have a place to live, no issues. I have a supportive family.
>My questions are as follows: is there anything you wish you knew before becoming NEET? Is it terrible? Is it good?
I'm a psychiatric patient too but your diagnosis is more severe than mine. I have major depression (recurring, not episodic) and BPD, severe symptoms. I've lost some functionally on my daily life but not to your extent I guess.
Focus on being as much stable and independent as possible long-term, your family won't be there for you one day. Take whatever meds you require, eat healthy, exercise on a constant basis, minimize substance abuse, try >8 hours most days, see your doctor. Recognize you're not normal, don't compare yourself to others.
Secure a steady source of income, baby sit it once you acquire it because you'll heavily rely on it, plan ahead to make it as much stable as possible. Save some of your income on a monthly basis, save up enough money for 6 or more months of survival.
TL;DR become as much independent as possible, take care of your health and secure/take care of your source of income.
>I have a place to live, no issues. I have a supportive family.
>My questions are as follows: is there anything you wish you knew before becoming NEET? Is it terrible? Is it good?
I'm a psychiatric patient too but your diagnosis is more severe than mine. I have major depression (recurring, not episodic) and BPD, severe symptoms. I've lost some functionally on my daily life but not to your extent I guess.
Focus on being as much stable and independent as possible long-term, your family won't be there for you one day. Take whatever meds you require, eat healthy, exercise on a constant basis, minimize substance abuse, try >8 hours most days, see your doctor. Recognize you're not normal, don't compare yourself to others.
Secure a steady source of income, baby sit it once you acquire it because you'll heavily rely on it, plan ahead to make it as much stable as possible. Save some of your income on a monthly basis, save up enough money for 6 or more months of survival.
TL;DR become as much independent as possible, take care of your health and secure/take care of your source of income.
You must fulfill your time with hobbies and meaningful connections I don’t buy most guys here are hermits it’s all about remaining sane and having a healthy life from diet to exercise sure indulge in vidya but have other copes you can be proud of
Being a NEET stops being enjoyable after a while, you just wait and rot until you die, the people that says "Just find a hobby bro" doesn't even realize that most people that have a hobby eventually turn into productive things and stop being NEETs.
Being NEET is just giving up on life, and that's ok, but after a certain point it would be better to just off yourself.
Being NEET is just giving up on life, and that's ok, but after a certain point it would be better to just off yourself.
>>275661
>BPD is made up i thought
I wish it was made up, it's not. BPD resembles bipolar disorder.
>bipolar disorder
>mood swing cycles happen through weeks and months
>patients have periods of weeks/months of regular mood
>BPD
>mood swing cycles happen within 24 hours all days, each day can cycle differently
BPD is not just the mood swings though, patients also have other symptoms. It has a high suicide rate too, 10% of BPD patients die of suicide.
>BPD is made up i thought
I wish it was made up, it's not. BPD resembles bipolar disorder.
>bipolar disorder
>mood swing cycles happen through weeks and months
>patients have periods of weeks/months of regular mood
>BPD
>mood swing cycles happen within 24 hours all days, each day can cycle differently
BPD is not just the mood swings though, patients also have other symptoms. It has a high suicide rate too, 10% of BPD patients die of suicide.
>>275662
>I wish it was made up, it's not. BPD resembles bipolar disorder.
I've run into this confusion a couple of times, I highly suggest to say 'bipolar' because the term BPD usually gets associated with Borderline Personality Disorder.
>I wish it was made up, it's not. BPD resembles bipolar disorder.
I've run into this confusion a couple of times, I highly suggest to say 'bipolar' because the term BPD usually gets associated with Borderline Personality Disorder.
The first year or maybe even two is fun relative to what comes after so enjoy it while it lasts.
>>275522
Saying you have BPD should be a bannable offense.
No psychiatrist in the world is going to diagnose a man who has never been in an intimate relationship with BPD. It might be true, you might even meet the 5/9 diagnosis requirement, but they are just never going there with the specific combination of symptoms you would be presenting.
Saying you have BPD should be a bannable offense.
No psychiatrist in the world is going to diagnose a man who has never been in an intimate relationship with BPD. It might be true, you might even meet the 5/9 diagnosis requirement, but they are just never going there with the specific combination of symptoms you would be presenting.
>>275890
Sexually impulsive behavior is indeed part of borderline personality disorder but for some straight men this often devolves into compulsive porn consuming etc.
Sexually impulsive behavior is indeed part of borderline personality disorder but for some straight men this often devolves into compulsive porn consuming etc.
>>275890
>No psychiatrist in the world is going to diagnose a man who has never been in an intimate relationship with BPD
BPD is a serious diagnosis, whatever misconceptions you have about the disorder are not true. See these symptoms again >>275522
BPD affects men and succubi roughly at the same percentage, and it's often confused with bipolar disorder. Also, some people pretend to have BPD, specially on social media. These people rarely mention these symptoms themselves, or have a hard time describing them >>275522
I could clarify whatever misconception you have but that would seem to be a waste of time.
>>275891
>Sexually impulsive behavior is indeed part of borderline personality disorder
Hypersexuality can be a secondary symptom of bipolar disorder, BPD doesn't have that. What most BPD patients do have is dangerous impulsivity. This is part of the diagnosis criteria:
>Impulsive behavior in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating)
>No psychiatrist in the world is going to diagnose a man who has never been in an intimate relationship with BPD
BPD is a serious diagnosis, whatever misconceptions you have about the disorder are not true. See these symptoms again >>275522
BPD affects men and succubi roughly at the same percentage, and it's often confused with bipolar disorder. Also, some people pretend to have BPD, specially on social media. These people rarely mention these symptoms themselves, or have a hard time describing them >>275522
I could clarify whatever misconception you have but that would seem to be a waste of time.
>>275891
>Sexually impulsive behavior is indeed part of borderline personality disorder
Hypersexuality can be a secondary symptom of bipolar disorder, BPD doesn't have that. What most BPD patients do have is dangerous impulsivity. This is part of the diagnosis criteria:
>Impulsive behavior in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating)
>>275899
Sounds like something trash normalfag people who definitely don't belong here have.
Sounds like something trash normalfag people who definitely don't belong here have.
>>275910
essentially, yes, men with BPD are lower crust normalfags, the type who explode in anger and call some lady at a store a dumb bitch. They are often violent with anger issues and they end up in jail because they act impulsively out of anger and commit crimes.
essentially, yes, men with BPD are lower crust normalfags, the type who explode in anger and call some lady at a store a dumb bitch. They are often violent with anger issues and they end up in jail because they act impulsively out of anger and commit crimes.
>>275910
>Sounds like something trash normalfag people who definitely don't belong here have.
Mental disease is like any other disease. Any person can get them, regardless of gender, race or social status. BPD has very serious symptoms: mood swings (which can be scary and disorienting), dissociation and psychosis (on more severe cases), just to name a few, I can't even drive because of symptoms. Normgroids clearly do not deal with these on their daily basis, otherwise they wouldn't be normgroids.
>>275920
>yes, men with BPD are lower crust normalfags
No one with an actually diagnosed & severe psychiatric disorder is a normalfag, it's impossible for these people to be normal.
> They are often violent with anger issues and they end up in jail because they act impulsively out of anger and commit crimes
Only mouth breathing idiots let their BPD get worse, succubi are the worst patients for a reason (according to doctors not me).
>Sounds like something trash normalfag people who definitely don't belong here have.
Mental disease is like any other disease. Any person can get them, regardless of gender, race or social status. BPD has very serious symptoms: mood swings (which can be scary and disorienting), dissociation and psychosis (on more severe cases), just to name a few, I can't even drive because of symptoms. Normgroids clearly do not deal with these on their daily basis, otherwise they wouldn't be normgroids.
>>275920
>yes, men with BPD are lower crust normalfags
No one with an actually diagnosed & severe psychiatric disorder is a normalfag, it's impossible for these people to be normal.
> They are often violent with anger issues and they end up in jail because they act impulsively out of anger and commit crimes
Only mouth breathing idiots let their BPD get worse, succubi are the worst patients for a reason (according to doctors not me).
>>275899
>Hypersexuality can be a secondary symptom of bipolar disorder, BPD doesn't have that. What most BPD patients do have is dangerous impulsivity. This is part of the diagnosis criteria:
>Impulsive behavior in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating)
That includes sexual impulsivity however so what is the point of this reply?
>Hypersexuality can be a secondary symptom of bipolar disorder, BPD doesn't have that. What most BPD patients do have is dangerous impulsivity. This is part of the diagnosis criteria:
>Impulsive behavior in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating)
That includes sexual impulsivity however so what is the point of this reply?
>>275924
>That includes sexual impulsivity
No, hypersexuality is high libido and that's it. Risky impulsive behavior in BPD happens in the context of self-harm and self-destruct (other common impulsive behavior are substance abuse, overspending, overeating, reckless driving, getting into fights). Risky sex can happen regardless of libido.
You're saying "BPDs are normies that chase sex" and that doesn't make sense, do you think I'm drowning in pussy with all my symptoms? Risky sex is more common in BPD succubi anyways, substance abuse is more common in BPD men.
>That includes sexual impulsivity
No, hypersexuality is high libido and that's it. Risky impulsive behavior in BPD happens in the context of self-harm and self-destruct (other common impulsive behavior are substance abuse, overspending, overeating, reckless driving, getting into fights). Risky sex can happen regardless of libido.
You're saying "BPDs are normies that chase sex" and that doesn't make sense, do you think I'm drowning in pussy with all my symptoms? Risky sex is more common in BPD succubi anyways, substance abuse is more common in BPD men.
>>275926
>You're saying "BPDs are normies that chase sex" and that doesn't make sense, do you think I'm drowning in pussy with all my symptoms?
I wrote that straight men often develop compulsive porn habits which is also harmful sexual impulsivity for example and it doesn't involve other people or they just talk about their dicks in public etc. to get sexual attention or they might end up strangling themselves in some autoerotic ecstacy.
Theres also a huge amount of gay guys with BPD who fuck around like crazy doing all kinds of very depraved things just like the BPD succubi who are usually huge sluts. I get that straight men with BPD probably engage in sex way less but they still often have problems with sexual compulsivity when it comes to porn and masturbation.
>You're saying "BPDs are normies that chase sex" and that doesn't make sense, do you think I'm drowning in pussy with all my symptoms?
I wrote that straight men often develop compulsive porn habits which is also harmful sexual impulsivity for example and it doesn't involve other people or they just talk about their dicks in public etc. to get sexual attention or they might end up strangling themselves in some autoerotic ecstacy.
Theres also a huge amount of gay guys with BPD who fuck around like crazy doing all kinds of very depraved things just like the BPD succubi who are usually huge sluts. I get that straight men with BPD probably engage in sex way less but they still often have problems with sexual compulsivity when it comes to porn and masturbation.
>>275930
>You can perfectly be a normalfag and have mental disorders, look at any succubi with BPD.
BPD succubi are usually the cumdumpsters of normies, they are the female equivalent of a guy who is a lolcow. I don't think BPD succubi are able to have a normal life, many of them live like bums and whore around or do promiscuous stuff to get attention, they are also prone to cheating on their partners so they also fuck up personal relationships as well. They might find ways to get carried through their 20s but at some point they are gonna be sad and fucked up about their impulsive decisions.
>You can perfectly be a normalfag and have mental disorders, look at any succubi with BPD.
BPD succubi are usually the cumdumpsters of normies, they are the female equivalent of a guy who is a lolcow. I don't think BPD succubi are able to have a normal life, many of them live like bums and whore around or do promiscuous stuff to get attention, they are also prone to cheating on their partners so they also fuck up personal relationships as well. They might find ways to get carried through their 20s but at some point they are gonna be sad and fucked up about their impulsive decisions.
>>275899
>>275891
I'm not saying anything about men with BPD, it's very well possible that a wizard might have it. My issue is that I don't think that a male virgin is ever going to receive a diagnosis for it, it just isn't how a psychiatrist would interpret the apparent symptoms of a male with BPD who has never been in a relationship.
A man who has never been in a relationship who experiences:
>chronic feelings of emptiness
>emotional instability
>impulsive behavior
>suicidal behavior
>intense inappropriate anger
would technically meet the 5/9 minimum requirement for having BPD, but those could be a whole host of other things and psychs are very hesitant to jump to personality disorders if there is an alternative explanation. They aren't even going to consider the possibility of BPD unless you bring up some of the major flags for it, all of which are interpersonal issues. And it's especially unlikely they'd be looking to BPD if you're a man, even textbook male cases of it are likely to be misdiagnosed, let alone a case where the patient hasn't even been in a relationship.
It'd be like coming here to complain about your STDs. You could pick it up from a toilet seat or something sure, but I think it's far more likely you're just a sex haver. Not even a great example because I think the odds of accidentally contracting an STD are probably far greater than a virgin male getting diagnosed with BPD.
I can't prove anything, but unless you're some self diagnosing larper I would bet my life that anyone on this board claiming to have BPD has had sex, probably gay sex, and they're probably a tranny. You can reply saying you're not, just know that I see you.
>>275891
I'm not saying anything about men with BPD, it's very well possible that a wizard might have it. My issue is that I don't think that a male virgin is ever going to receive a diagnosis for it, it just isn't how a psychiatrist would interpret the apparent symptoms of a male with BPD who has never been in a relationship.
A man who has never been in a relationship who experiences:
>chronic feelings of emptiness
>emotional instability
>impulsive behavior
>suicidal behavior
>intense inappropriate anger
would technically meet the 5/9 minimum requirement for having BPD, but those could be a whole host of other things and psychs are very hesitant to jump to personality disorders if there is an alternative explanation. They aren't even going to consider the possibility of BPD unless you bring up some of the major flags for it, all of which are interpersonal issues. And it's especially unlikely they'd be looking to BPD if you're a man, even textbook male cases of it are likely to be misdiagnosed, let alone a case where the patient hasn't even been in a relationship.
It'd be like coming here to complain about your STDs. You could pick it up from a toilet seat or something sure, but I think it's far more likely you're just a sex haver. Not even a great example because I think the odds of accidentally contracting an STD are probably far greater than a virgin male getting diagnosed with BPD.
I can't prove anything, but unless you're some self diagnosing larper I would bet my life that anyone on this board claiming to have BPD has had sex, probably gay sex, and they're probably a tranny. You can reply saying you're not, just know that I see you.
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>>275930
>You can perfectly be a normalfag and have mental disorders
Learn to read dimwitted fool. I said:
>No one with an actually diagnosed & severe psychiatric disorder is a normalfag
>severe psychiatric disorder
Most wizards have meme depression and meme anxiety (usually self-diagnosed and untreated because it's not even severe), you can get on life without requiring meds or inpatient treatment, you are closer to normgroids than me. Someone with a more severe diagnosis like BPD (or bipolar disorder, schizophrenia or etc) might require special care and inpatient treatment.
Who is more normal? The person that compulsive masturbates and got depression on par with dumb Karens, or the psychiatric patient that has been tied up in a ward?
>look at any succubi with BPD
How would you know about tiktok and reddit succubi that pretend to have BPD if you don't browse those social medias? I know they exist because I've met succubi like that in a hospital environment. You likely use reddit too and you have the guts to call me a normgroid lol.
>when people find you're a gossipy attentionwhore faggot wh
You're the loser that keeps getting humiliated by mods. You're constantly spamming the same pictures/links, I don't even know that person. Aren't you and the loser with two lesbian mommies too??
>You can perfectly be a normalfag and have mental disorders
Learn to read dimwitted fool. I said:
>No one with an actually diagnosed & severe psychiatric disorder is a normalfag
>severe psychiatric disorder
Most wizards have meme depression and meme anxiety (usually self-diagnosed and untreated because it's not even severe), you can get on life without requiring meds or inpatient treatment, you are closer to normgroids than me. Someone with a more severe diagnosis like BPD (or bipolar disorder, schizophrenia or etc) might require special care and inpatient treatment.
Who is more normal? The person that compulsive masturbates and got depression on par with dumb Karens, or the psychiatric patient that has been tied up in a ward?
>look at any succubi with BPD
How would you know about tiktok and reddit succubi that pretend to have BPD if you don't browse those social medias? I know they exist because I've met succubi like that in a hospital environment. You likely use reddit too and you have the guts to call me a normgroid lol.
>when people find you're a gossipy attentionwhore faggot wh
You're the loser that keeps getting humiliated by mods. You're constantly spamming the same pictures/links, I don't even know that person. Aren't you and the loser with two lesbian mommies too??
>>275931
That's an accurate description, how do you know that? In the ward I've met BPD succubi like this.
>>275934
>My issue is that I don't think that a male virgin is ever going to receive a diagnosis for it
That's non-sense, look at >>275522 those 9 symptoms are basically a summary of the 9 diagnostic criteria for the disorder, and 5 out of 9 need to be severe enough to impair daily functioning on a long-term basis (this is a chronic disorder). No diagnostic criteria revolves around sex, risky sexual behavior occurs in the context of self-destruction (getting an unwanted offspring, getting STDs, spreading STDs).
You cretins are equalizing BPD with promiscuous succubi because you browse social media where succubi pretend to have BPD for sympathy and likes (tiktok, reddit, IG), get out of wizchan.
That's an accurate description, how do you know that? In the ward I've met BPD succubi like this.
>>275934
>My issue is that I don't think that a male virgin is ever going to receive a diagnosis for it
That's non-sense, look at >>275522 those 9 symptoms are basically a summary of the 9 diagnostic criteria for the disorder, and 5 out of 9 need to be severe enough to impair daily functioning on a long-term basis (this is a chronic disorder). No diagnostic criteria revolves around sex, risky sexual behavior occurs in the context of self-destruction (getting an unwanted offspring, getting STDs, spreading STDs).
You cretins are equalizing BPD with promiscuous succubi because you browse social media where succubi pretend to have BPD for sympathy and likes (tiktok, reddit, IG), get out of wizchan.
>>275938
he is such as a newfag he doesn't even know /b/ https://wizchan.org/b/
>>275937
>Who is more normal? The person that compulsive masturbates and got depression on par with dumb Karens, or the psychiatric patient that has been tied up in a ward?
You can be a psychiatric patient with kids and a normalfag philosophy like Jordan Peterson. You stupid fuck. Or develop a mental disorder that needs urgent mental health care later in life it literally doesn't exclude you from being a normalfag.
You're stupid as fuck.
he is such as a newfag he doesn't even know /b/ https://wizchan.org/b/
>>275937
>Who is more normal? The person that compulsive masturbates and got depression on par with dumb Karens, or the psychiatric patient that has been tied up in a ward?
You can be a psychiatric patient with kids and a normalfag philosophy like Jordan Peterson. You stupid fuck. Or develop a mental disorder that needs urgent mental health care later in life it literally doesn't exclude you from being a normalfag.
You're stupid as fuck.
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>>275940
>You can be a psychiatric patient with kids and a normalfag philosophy like Jordan Peterson
Actually diagnosed psychiatric patients are far from being normal, psychiatric patients with children are not the norm. Have you ever been inpatient? There's a difference between an armchair psychiatrist that self-diagnoses (most of wizchan or succubi fishing for sympathy) and actually diagnosed people that require meds to function or psych wards visits to stabilize.
>>275940
>he is such as a newfag he doesn't even know
Why would I browse /b/? You're a cool oldfag that browses /b/, that's so cool.
> Or develop a mental disorder that needs urgent mental health care later in life
That's not how mental health works, diagnoses in men usually happen in their 20s/30s, no one suddenly gets schizophrenia or mania "later in life". Old people do have dementia, which is a neurological disorder (brain degeneration).
>you stupid fuck
>You're stupid as fuck
Hahaha keep crying faggot. Again, aren't you the loser with two lesbian moms?
>You can be a psychiatric patient with kids and a normalfag philosophy like Jordan Peterson
Actually diagnosed psychiatric patients are far from being normal, psychiatric patients with children are not the norm. Have you ever been inpatient? There's a difference between an armchair psychiatrist that self-diagnoses (most of wizchan or succubi fishing for sympathy) and actually diagnosed people that require meds to function or psych wards visits to stabilize.
>>275940
>he is such as a newfag he doesn't even know
Why would I browse /b/? You're a cool oldfag that browses /b/, that's so cool.
> Or develop a mental disorder that needs urgent mental health care later in life
That's not how mental health works, diagnoses in men usually happen in their 20s/30s, no one suddenly gets schizophrenia or mania "later in life". Old people do have dementia, which is a neurological disorder (brain degeneration).
>you stupid fuck
>You're stupid as fuck
Hahaha keep crying faggot. Again, aren't you the loser with two lesbian moms?
>>275945
>psychiatric patients with children are not the norm
Actually most people with mental disorders reproduce and have families.
https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/mental-health/parents-and-young-people/leaflet-parental-mental-illness-the-impact-on-children-and-adolescents.pdf
>In fact 68% of succubi and 57% of men with a mental illness are parents. In addition many children live with a parent who has long-term mental health problems, as well as alcohol or drug problems and personality disorders
Looks like you can be a complete mentally ill normalnigger with kids.
Back to r9k retard.
>psychiatric patients with children are not the norm
Actually most people with mental disorders reproduce and have families.
https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/docs/default-source/mental-health/parents-and-young-people/leaflet-parental-mental-illness-the-impact-on-children-and-adolescents.pdf
>In fact 68% of succubi and 57% of men with a mental illness are parents. In addition many children live with a parent who has long-term mental health problems, as well as alcohol or drug problems and personality disorders
Looks like you can be a complete mentally ill normalnigger with kids.
Back to r9k retard.
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>>275939
I think you didn't you read my post, or just didn't understand it.
>Having a disorder is not the same as being diagnosed with a disorder.
>Meeting the diagnostic criteria for a disorder is not the same as being diagnosed with a disorder.
A virgin male could make the 5/9 requirement like I said in my post, they could probably meet 7 or 8, maybe all 9 actually if you stretched extremely hard. My point though is that you aren't even being assessed for BPD until you show some of the hallmarks of the disorder. They just aren't looking at you through that lens and a lot of these topics just aren't going to come up and some of them are going to have very different meanings to a psychiatrist in and out of that context.
Consider the attached three dimensional object. You probably assume that it is a cube, maybe it's rectangular prism, some other kind of prism? You probably wouldn't guess that it's pyramid, especially if pyramids are exceptionally uncommon and there are great social ramifications to calling something a pyramid. You might not have even considered pyramid to be a possibility until I brought it up. Similarly, a virgin male could have BPD, but without the perspective of how these symptoms affect his interpersonal relationships, it isn't really a consideration. It's going to be read as something more likely, probably some form of depression or bipolar type 2.
I believe you that you have BPD. I also believe you meet the diagnostic criteria for the disorder even if you pretend to have no relationship history, but you're working backwards from that point, which is why it makes sense to you that a wizard could be diagnosed with the disorder when realistically that just isn't something that would happen.
I also didn't say anything about promiscuity or succubi. My point about men was that psychiatrists are even less likely to consider BPD in the case of males, making this hypothetical BPD virgin male edge case even less likely to receive a diagnosis. And the promiscuity thing comes out of nowhere, you seem rather upset about this so I'm guessing you are sexually unsuccessful and feel that you "fit in" here. But you have been in relationships, it's most likely a failed one than led to you being placed in inpatient. Suicidality in BPD patients is typically in reaction to or an attempt to avoid real or perceived abandonment, rather than an actual desire to die. It was probably a man, and it's very likely that you are trans or will at some point transition. Flexible sexual identity/orientation and similar identity disturbance are characteristic of BPD.
More interesting than suicidal BPD patients though are the reactions of everyone else. The atmosphere, it's like being in the geriatric ward, dialed up to 11. Friends, family, partners, everyone is so concerned, so upset, so frantic, until they're not. It's been coming so long and causing so much stress, that when it happens they're just relieved.
I think you didn't you read my post, or just didn't understand it.
>Having a disorder is not the same as being diagnosed with a disorder.
>Meeting the diagnostic criteria for a disorder is not the same as being diagnosed with a disorder.
A virgin male could make the 5/9 requirement like I said in my post, they could probably meet 7 or 8, maybe all 9 actually if you stretched extremely hard. My point though is that you aren't even being assessed for BPD until you show some of the hallmarks of the disorder. They just aren't looking at you through that lens and a lot of these topics just aren't going to come up and some of them are going to have very different meanings to a psychiatrist in and out of that context.
Consider the attached three dimensional object. You probably assume that it is a cube, maybe it's rectangular prism, some other kind of prism? You probably wouldn't guess that it's pyramid, especially if pyramids are exceptionally uncommon and there are great social ramifications to calling something a pyramid. You might not have even considered pyramid to be a possibility until I brought it up. Similarly, a virgin male could have BPD, but without the perspective of how these symptoms affect his interpersonal relationships, it isn't really a consideration. It's going to be read as something more likely, probably some form of depression or bipolar type 2.
I believe you that you have BPD. I also believe you meet the diagnostic criteria for the disorder even if you pretend to have no relationship history, but you're working backwards from that point, which is why it makes sense to you that a wizard could be diagnosed with the disorder when realistically that just isn't something that would happen.
I also didn't say anything about promiscuity or succubi. My point about men was that psychiatrists are even less likely to consider BPD in the case of males, making this hypothetical BPD virgin male edge case even less likely to receive a diagnosis. And the promiscuity thing comes out of nowhere, you seem rather upset about this so I'm guessing you are sexually unsuccessful and feel that you "fit in" here. But you have been in relationships, it's most likely a failed one than led to you being placed in inpatient. Suicidality in BPD patients is typically in reaction to or an attempt to avoid real or perceived abandonment, rather than an actual desire to die. It was probably a man, and it's very likely that you are trans or will at some point transition. Flexible sexual identity/orientation and similar identity disturbance are characteristic of BPD.
More interesting than suicidal BPD patients though are the reactions of everyone else. The atmosphere, it's like being in the geriatric ward, dialed up to 11. Friends, family, partners, everyone is so concerned, so upset, so frantic, until they're not. It's been coming so long and causing so much stress, that when it happens they're just relieved.
>>275949
>My point though is that you aren't even being assessed for BPD
Your post doesn't make any sense at all. You are saying wizards can't have BPD without saying why. And you keep giving this "normgroid" tag to the disorder.
Getting diagnosed is not complicated, patient usually ends up in ER or the ward.
>My point though is that you aren't even being assessed for BPD
Your post doesn't make any sense at all. You are saying wizards can't have BPD without saying why. And you keep giving this "normgroid" tag to the disorder.
Getting diagnosed is not complicated, patient usually ends up in ER or the ward.
>browse normie social media, see idiots pretending to be mentally ill for attention.
>go to wizchan
>"lol mentalcels are normgroids"
>"go back to /r9k/
>I am an oldfag wiz not a normie xD
Some of your posts are ridiculous. The only reason you'd read or see posts about "BPD succubi" is if you browse their normgroid social media.
>go to wizchan
>"lol mentalcels are normgroids"
>"go back to /r9k/
>I am an oldfag wiz not a normie xD
Some of your posts are ridiculous. The only reason you'd read or see posts about "BPD succubi" is if you browse their normgroid social media.
>>275958
I never said wizards can't have BPD. I also never used the word "normgroid," "normalfag," or any variation of that to describe people with the disorder. I'm also very familiar with the diagnostic process, which is why I say these things.
My point is that if a Wizard who DID have BPD were to be evaluated, it's unlikely they would be properly diagnosed. A doctor wouldn't be looking at you through the lens of does this person have BPD and that wouldn't be guiding their questioning, they would be looking at your symptoms and coming to the most likely conclusions based on those symptoms. They would note your suicidality, unstable affect, feelings of emptiness, but until they hear about a pattern of unstable relationships and your intense fear of abandonment they aren't thinking BPD. To a doctor, this just looks like depression or bipolar type 2. When it comes out that you've never been in a relationship they might even consider social anxiety disorder, but absolutely not borderline, that would be insane, it would be unethical.
This post isn't really for you, you know what's true of course and so do I with almost complete confidence. I just want anyone reading this thread understands why it's so ridiculous to me whenever I see someone on this board claim BPD, because I agree with you that most people turn into complete morons whenever the subject comes up.
I never said wizards can't have BPD. I also never used the word "normgroid," "normalfag," or any variation of that to describe people with the disorder. I'm also very familiar with the diagnostic process, which is why I say these things.
My point is that if a Wizard who DID have BPD were to be evaluated, it's unlikely they would be properly diagnosed. A doctor wouldn't be looking at you through the lens of does this person have BPD and that wouldn't be guiding their questioning, they would be looking at your symptoms and coming to the most likely conclusions based on those symptoms. They would note your suicidality, unstable affect, feelings of emptiness, but until they hear about a pattern of unstable relationships and your intense fear of abandonment they aren't thinking BPD. To a doctor, this just looks like depression or bipolar type 2. When it comes out that you've never been in a relationship they might even consider social anxiety disorder, but absolutely not borderline, that would be insane, it would be unethical.
This post isn't really for you, you know what's true of course and so do I with almost complete confidence. I just want anyone reading this thread understands why it's so ridiculous to me whenever I see someone on this board claim BPD, because I agree with you that most people turn into complete morons whenever the subject comes up.
>>275946
>Actually most people with mental disorders reproduce and have families
>UK site, anglo first world
I am talking about severe patients that have been inpatient, not normie Karens with meme anxiety.
>>275963
>A doctor wouldn't be looking at you through the lens of does this person have BPD
Well you are correct now that you've explained you're not the other idiot samefagging the thread (same wiz obsessed with the mods). I got diagnosed because I am a severe patient and I've been inpatient before, I actually got diagnosed months after my first ward visit.
>Actually most people with mental disorders reproduce and have families
>UK site, anglo first world
I am talking about severe patients that have been inpatient, not normie Karens with meme anxiety.
>>275963
>A doctor wouldn't be looking at you through the lens of does this person have BPD
Well you are correct now that you've explained you're not the other idiot samefagging the thread (same wiz obsessed with the mods). I got diagnosed because I am a severe patient and I've been inpatient before, I actually got diagnosed months after my first ward visit.
>>275964
>I'm talking about severe patients that have been inpatient,
You clearly don't seem to understand that most normalfags SUFFER from mental disorders because they're the general population. The statistic corroborate this fact as I already shared with you
>In fact 68% of succubi and 57% of men with a mental illness are parents. In addition many children live with a parent who has long-term mental health problems, as well as alcohol or drug problems and personality disorders
it'd be seriously stupid of you to deny or ignore this.
>not normie Karens with meme anxiety.
>I actually got diagnosed months after my first ward visit.
Same doctors that diagnosed you diagnosed those you call normie Karens. You really think you're a special snowflake for being diagnosed with a mental disorder that's common among females. Pathetic.
>I'm talking about severe patients that have been inpatient,
You clearly don't seem to understand that most normalfags SUFFER from mental disorders because they're the general population. The statistic corroborate this fact as I already shared with you
>In fact 68% of succubi and 57% of men with a mental illness are parents. In addition many children live with a parent who has long-term mental health problems, as well as alcohol or drug problems and personality disorders
it'd be seriously stupid of you to deny or ignore this.
>not normie Karens with meme anxiety.
>I actually got diagnosed months after my first ward visit.
Same doctors that diagnosed you diagnosed those you call normie Karens. You really think you're a special snowflake for being diagnosed with a mental disorder that's common among females. Pathetic.
>>275966
>You clearly don't seem to understand that most normalfags SUFFER from mental disorders
That's not truth, with that logic psychiatric wings would be full all through the world, and everyone would be on meds. Someone with meme anxiety and meme depression is not a psychiatric patient.
Heck, if everyone was crazy there would not exist discrimination against loonies in the workplace and mentalcels would not be a thing.
Real psychiatric disorders and symptoms:
>depressive episodes
>mania
>psychosis
>mood lability
The list goes on.
Meme "psychiatric disorders/symptoms" normies have:
>anhedonia
>"low self-esteem/insecurity issues"
>anxiety
>"ADHD"
>"neurodivergency/autism"
Notice how normgroids steer away from shit that actually requires you to be on a hospital setting.
Aren't you the loser obsessed with the troon mod? What's the point of ban evading when you are easy to identify?
>You clearly don't seem to understand that most normalfags SUFFER from mental disorders
That's not truth, with that logic psychiatric wings would be full all through the world, and everyone would be on meds. Someone with meme anxiety and meme depression is not a psychiatric patient.
Heck, if everyone was crazy there would not exist discrimination against loonies in the workplace and mentalcels would not be a thing.
Real psychiatric disorders and symptoms:
>depressive episodes
>mania
>psychosis
>mood lability
The list goes on.
Meme "psychiatric disorders/symptoms" normies have:
>anhedonia
>"low self-esteem/insecurity issues"
>anxiety
>"ADHD"
>"neurodivergency/autism"
Notice how normgroids steer away from shit that actually requires you to be on a hospital setting.
Aren't you the loser obsessed with the troon mod? What's the point of ban evading when you are easy to identify?
>>275967
>my mental disorder is real and not normie
>others mental disorder are fake and normie
This is your entire "argument". You're not only mentally ill but also extremely low iq.
>my mental disorder is real and not normie
>others mental disorder are fake and normie
This is your entire "argument". You're not only mentally ill but also extremely low iq.
>>275968
>>275968
>others mental disorder are fake and normie
>This is your entire "argument"
Yes, that's entirely my argument. If your condition doesn't require inpatient treatment or meds you are not a severe patient and you can lead a regular life. Heck, if you can function without meds your shit is not severe.
>>275968
>others mental disorder are fake and normie
>This is your entire "argument"
Yes, that's entirely my argument. If your condition doesn't require inpatient treatment or meds you are not a severe patient and you can lead a regular life. Heck, if you can function without meds your shit is not severe.
>>275969
It's time to grow up and accept that you're not a special snowflake for having BPD like every other succubi.
It's time to grow up and accept that you're not a special snowflake for having BPD like every other succubi.
>>275970
>accept that you're not a special snowflake for having BPD like every other succubi.
I am a wizard, I AM a special snowflake without the BPD. Why would you know about "BPD succubi" if you don't browse normgroid social media? Oh wait you actually browse this media. Leave this site, you don't belong here.
>"how do you know about them if you don't browse normie social media?"
Because I've met succubi like this on an inpatient setting. Again, social media has a fuckton of succubi pretending to have BPD.
Also you are samefagging this thread, I recognize you and your posts. You are the loser obsessed with the mod team, specially the "trans mod", you get banned on a daily basis.
There's two ty
>accept that you're not a special snowflake for having BPD like every other succubi.
I am a wizard, I AM a special snowflake without the BPD. Why would you know about "BPD succubi" if you don't browse normgroid social media? Oh wait you actually browse this media. Leave this site, you don't belong here.
>"how do you know about them if you don't browse normie social media?"
Because I've met succubi like this on an inpatient setting. Again, social media has a fuckton of succubi pretending to have BPD.
Also you are samefagging this thread, I recognize you and your posts. You are the loser obsessed with the mod team, specially the "trans mod", you get banned on a daily basis.
There's two ty
>>275975
Every young succubus I have met and been around have said that they have BPD. It is an excuse for them to be terrible awful people while at the same time claiming victim status of being mentally ill and avoiding consequences. For me to have a small pool of reference, that is nearly half. I understand where that wizzie was coming from, the kneejerk reaction of BPD is imagining the BPDemon foid like I described, the diagnosis for it you could walk into any psychiatrist office and they would be happy to sell you pills and label you with untrue problems. When I went they kept pushing the entire " do you have extreme mood swings?" constantly even when I said no. The sheet they give you to fill out is loaded questions that will all point to BPD. It is an easy label to hand out to get people onto psychiatric medications and make them feel special and stand out from the rest of the BPDemons. I am sorry Wiz, I suffer debilitating genetic schizophrenic. Seeing these alternative succubi claim to have fake life breaking disorders while suffering no real symptoms is irritating. Not only do they make public perception of these things worse, it's as if they are spitting and mocking the torment of the sufferers of the disease they claim to have. Every one of them is functional so people believe that it isn't so bad and takes away from the treatment that should be reserved for the ill. Schizophrenia and BPD are close together, my entire family is psychotic in some way. My mother is BPD and it ruined me. It presented itself in males of my family and it is much worse, I am sorry that you are caught in a torrential whirlwind of emotion and confusion Wiz. That alone is enough to take away any social chances and make you a hermit. I imagine there is other aspects to it as well and i would like to hear them because I don't fully know what the life is like thanks to BPDemon's false claims.
>>275493
Hi OP. You need to NEET immediately if what is happening to you is progressing. Not only will it give you a better chance at government assistance, it will also prevent the inevitable psychotic break at work or public and prevent a traumatic terrible abusive situation that is mental inpatient hospitals. I understand the suffering and confusion. I understand that it is shameful to talk to anyone about this. I cannot recommend medication as it is a chemical lobotomy and your brain has diverged from the norm to the point where therapists and psychiatrists will never be able to fully understand what delusions or psychosis is like. Please take the steps needed to make your life more bearable. Feeling suicidal ideation at a consistent basis will drive anyone mad. Religion, philosophy, discipline and practice is the only thing that has worked for me in steering away from lunacy. I'm sorry it has to be this way. There is no way out, give all the thoughts of a normal life away. You aren't normal anymore and comparing yourself to others at this point is only self desecration. It's a different game. At best you can hold yourself together in front of your family and NEET into creative pursuits and nurture good habits and thoughts to live a peaceful life. At worst you'll carve yourself open and have an accidental suicide by your own hand or police. Goodluck.
Every young succubus I have met and been around have said that they have BPD. It is an excuse for them to be terrible awful people while at the same time claiming victim status of being mentally ill and avoiding consequences. For me to have a small pool of reference, that is nearly half. I understand where that wizzie was coming from, the kneejerk reaction of BPD is imagining the BPDemon foid like I described, the diagnosis for it you could walk into any psychiatrist office and they would be happy to sell you pills and label you with untrue problems. When I went they kept pushing the entire " do you have extreme mood swings?" constantly even when I said no. The sheet they give you to fill out is loaded questions that will all point to BPD. It is an easy label to hand out to get people onto psychiatric medications and make them feel special and stand out from the rest of the BPDemons. I am sorry Wiz, I suffer debilitating genetic schizophrenic. Seeing these alternative succubi claim to have fake life breaking disorders while suffering no real symptoms is irritating. Not only do they make public perception of these things worse, it's as if they are spitting and mocking the torment of the sufferers of the disease they claim to have. Every one of them is functional so people believe that it isn't so bad and takes away from the treatment that should be reserved for the ill. Schizophrenia and BPD are close together, my entire family is psychotic in some way. My mother is BPD and it ruined me. It presented itself in males of my family and it is much worse, I am sorry that you are caught in a torrential whirlwind of emotion and confusion Wiz. That alone is enough to take away any social chances and make you a hermit. I imagine there is other aspects to it as well and i would like to hear them because I don't fully know what the life is like thanks to BPDemon's false claims.
>>275493
Hi OP. You need to NEET immediately if what is happening to you is progressing. Not only will it give you a better chance at government assistance, it will also prevent the inevitable psychotic break at work or public and prevent a traumatic terrible abusive situation that is mental inpatient hospitals. I understand the suffering and confusion. I understand that it is shameful to talk to anyone about this. I cannot recommend medication as it is a chemical lobotomy and your brain has diverged from the norm to the point where therapists and psychiatrists will never be able to fully understand what delusions or psychosis is like. Please take the steps needed to make your life more bearable. Feeling suicidal ideation at a consistent basis will drive anyone mad. Religion, philosophy, discipline and practice is the only thing that has worked for me in steering away from lunacy. I'm sorry it has to be this way. There is no way out, give all the thoughts of a normal life away. You aren't normal anymore and comparing yourself to others at this point is only self desecration. It's a different game. At best you can hold yourself together in front of your family and NEET into creative pursuits and nurture good habits and thoughts to live a peaceful life. At worst you'll carve yourself open and have an accidental suicide by your own hand or police. Goodluck.
>>275975
>I am a wizard, I AM a special snowflake without the BPD
First of all, no wizard would say that.
>Why would you know about "BPD succubi" if you don't browse normgroid social media?
> Oh wait you actually browse this media. Leave this site, you don't belong here.
Again you lack logic due to your mental health issues that also make you appear like a female online. You used ad hominem, and strawman in your posts, in other words, you're already losing your mind making no sense while also deflecting in a pathetic way.
> Again, social media has a fuckton of succubi pretending to have BPD.
Notice how I never mentioned social media in any of my posts, but you accuse me of browsing social media while also affirming it has females who are bpd for attention.
Seems to me like you're the one who knows a lot of females both online and irl.
>There's two ty
? You're basically replying to yourself like a narcissistic female who doesn't want to hear the truth. The truth in this case being that mental disorders are PRETTY COMMON, you not willing to admit that is because you base your silly identity over having a mental disorder which is exactly what females do for attention and you're doing it on an imageboard while claiming to be a special snowflake. You're beyond pathetic.
>I am a wizard, I AM a special snowflake without the BPD
First of all, no wizard would say that.
>Why would you know about "BPD succubi" if you don't browse normgroid social media?
> Oh wait you actually browse this media. Leave this site, you don't belong here.
Again you lack logic due to your mental health issues that also make you appear like a female online. You used ad hominem, and strawman in your posts, in other words, you're already losing your mind making no sense while also deflecting in a pathetic way.
> Again, social media has a fuckton of succubi pretending to have BPD.
Notice how I never mentioned social media in any of my posts, but you accuse me of browsing social media while also affirming it has females who are bpd for attention.
Seems to me like you're the one who knows a lot of females both online and irl.
>There's two ty
? You're basically replying to yourself like a narcissistic female who doesn't want to hear the truth. The truth in this case being that mental disorders are PRETTY COMMON, you not willing to admit that is because you base your silly identity over having a mental disorder which is exactly what females do for attention and you're doing it on an imageboard while claiming to be a special snowflake. You're beyond pathetic.
>>275949
Do you work in the health service? How did you end up here?
Only a professional would be able to elaborate on the subject like this:
>Consider the attached three dimensional object. You probably assume that it is a cube, maybe it's rectangular prism, some other kind of prism? You probably wouldn't guess that it's pyramid, especially if pyramids are exceptionally uncommon and there are great social ramifications to calling something a pyramid. You might not have even considered pyramid to be a possibility until I brought it up. Similarly, a virgin male could have BPD, but without the perspective of how these symptoms affect his interpersonal relationships, it isn't really a consideration. It's going to be read as something more likely, probably some form of depression or bipolar type 2.
Do you work in the health service? How did you end up here?
Only a professional would be able to elaborate on the subject like this:
>Consider the attached three dimensional object. You probably assume that it is a cube, maybe it's rectangular prism, some other kind of prism? You probably wouldn't guess that it's pyramid, especially if pyramids are exceptionally uncommon and there are great social ramifications to calling something a pyramid. You might not have even considered pyramid to be a possibility until I brought it up. Similarly, a virgin male could have BPD, but without the perspective of how these symptoms affect his interpersonal relationships, it isn't really a consideration. It's going to be read as something more likely, probably some form of depression or bipolar type 2.
>>275982
>Schizophrenia and BPD are close together
In what sense? I'm not deeply familiar with schizophrenia.
>I imagine there is other aspects to it as well and i would like to hear them because I don't fully know what the life is like thanks to BPDemon's false claims
Yeah, got daily mood swings which I can't control, they're disorienting. I don't trust other people either, I'm always paranoid about others and their intentions, any idiot can easily trigger me. I see other people, situations, etc in extremes (what's called "splitting"). I have a hard time focusing on things, I don't watch series and movies easily bore me. When being outside, I wear headphones all the time, otherwise I easily get disoriented (can't tell if some sounds are real or not, or the direction of sounds). I'm impulsive and aggressive but I've learned to regulate my behavior. I also struggle with substance abuse. My erratic behavior has gotten me with police situations thrice, been inpatient twice. I can end up psychotic too, but it's more related to heavy stress, it doesn't just randomly happen. Got a big problem with suicide too, I'm always thinking about suicide. Doctor/therapists point out I dissociate too, but I don't perceive or see this because I'm alone all the time.
Understanding my behavior and diagnoses has been crucial for improving. I stick to a routine, I try to eat healthy, I exercise almost all days, I indulge in activities I enjoy. I practice harm reduction with substance abuse. I take Ritalin when I need to get stuff done. I live in a shithole so I'm forced to wagecuck or end up homeless/starve.
I'm a severe case though, not all patients have my symptoms, and I've reached a stage of maturity/stability, I've outgrown some bad behavior too.
>Schizophrenia and BPD are close together
In what sense? I'm not deeply familiar with schizophrenia.
>I imagine there is other aspects to it as well and i would like to hear them because I don't fully know what the life is like thanks to BPDemon's false claims
Yeah, got daily mood swings which I can't control, they're disorienting. I don't trust other people either, I'm always paranoid about others and their intentions, any idiot can easily trigger me. I see other people, situations, etc in extremes (what's called "splitting"). I have a hard time focusing on things, I don't watch series and movies easily bore me. When being outside, I wear headphones all the time, otherwise I easily get disoriented (can't tell if some sounds are real or not, or the direction of sounds). I'm impulsive and aggressive but I've learned to regulate my behavior. I also struggle with substance abuse. My erratic behavior has gotten me with police situations thrice, been inpatient twice. I can end up psychotic too, but it's more related to heavy stress, it doesn't just randomly happen. Got a big problem with suicide too, I'm always thinking about suicide. Doctor/therapists point out I dissociate too, but I don't perceive or see this because I'm alone all the time.
Understanding my behavior and diagnoses has been crucial for improving. I stick to a routine, I try to eat healthy, I exercise almost all days, I indulge in activities I enjoy. I practice harm reduction with substance abuse. I take Ritalin when I need to get stuff done. I live in a shithole so I'm forced to wagecuck or end up homeless/starve.
I'm a severe case though, not all patients have my symptoms, and I've reached a stage of maturity/stability, I've outgrown some bad behavior too.
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>>275493
well if you are a physically disabled neet you will probably lose on job oppertunities.
There is also the successful neet aka crime syndicate or 7-9 figure entrepreneur.
well if you are a physically disabled neet you will probably lose on job oppertunities.
There is also the successful neet aka crime syndicate or 7-9 figure entrepreneur.
>>275989
bpd is mood swings aka every succubus in her period. schizophrenia is believing in human religion
bpd is mood swings aka every succubus in her period. schizophrenia is believing in human religion
>>275967
what are you exactly trying to accomplish by attempting to gatekeep mental illness? "oh look at me i'm the realest of the wizards for getting locked up in a looney bin", if you are under the notion that neurodivergence somehow leads to being a social outcast or even a wizard you are terribly mistaken, it can certainly contribute but in the vast majority of cases that is not the result
your method of invalidating the suffering of others is pathetically self-centered, based on your logic someone could make the argument that all debilitating life-ruining illnesses besides cancer are a "meme"
what are you exactly trying to accomplish by attempting to gatekeep mental illness? "oh look at me i'm the realest of the wizards for getting locked up in a looney bin", if you are under the notion that neurodivergence somehow leads to being a social outcast or even a wizard you are terribly mistaken, it can certainly contribute but in the vast majority of cases that is not the result
your method of invalidating the suffering of others is pathetically self-centered, based on your logic someone could make the argument that all debilitating life-ruining illnesses besides cancer are a "meme"
>>275969
Very dumb. It's so obvious that there is a whole spectrum of different symptoms. Some lead to being inpatient or meds, some do not. It is not necessarily correspondent to severity. For example plenty of people kill themselves without ever being inpatient or taking meds - many would say that's the deepest form of mental illness. (the very concept of mental illness is broken, of course, because there are just different minds that cant be simply compared)
Very dumb. It's so obvious that there is a whole spectrum of different symptoms. Some lead to being inpatient or meds, some do not. It is not necessarily correspondent to severity. For example plenty of people kill themselves without ever being inpatient or taking meds - many would say that's the deepest form of mental illness. (the very concept of mental illness is broken, of course, because there are just different minds that cant be simply compared)
>>276005
>what are you exactly trying to accomplish by attempting to gatekeep mental illness?
Keep succubi out of my sekrit club, which is a noble goal.
>"neurodivergent"
I am crazy, I am not "neurodivergent", soft language causes more harm than good (i.e. shell shock vs. PTSD). That's a word from Tiktok and social media, what are you doing here if you browse social media?
>what are you exactly trying to accomplish by attempting to gatekeep mental illness?
Keep succubi out of my sekrit club, which is a noble goal.
>"neurodivergent"
I am crazy, I am not "neurodivergent", soft language causes more harm than good (i.e. shell shock vs. PTSD). That's a word from Tiktok and social media, what are you doing here if you browse social media?
>>276012
>Very dumb. It's so obvious that there is a whole spectrum of different symptoms
Don't change the goalpost mongoloid, we're specifically talking about severe patients, making the distinction that severe patients are not the same as patients with mild stuff like meme depression. This has been mentioned multiple times through the thread.
With your same logic, wizards and crabs are exactly the same thing just because both are virgins.
>Very dumb. It's so obvious that there is a whole spectrum of different symptoms
Don't change the goalpost mongoloid, we're specifically talking about severe patients, making the distinction that severe patients are not the same as patients with mild stuff like meme depression. This has been mentioned multiple times through the thread.
With your same logic, wizards and crabs are exactly the same thing just because both are virgins.
>>275493
Little advice from one diagnosed schizophrenic to another. First of all I understand you have a supportive family I do too which I talk to regularly, this relates if you plan on living alone as I do in NEETdom. Being a NEET is okay but isolation for extended periods of time is not, especially for schizos, you'll find your sanity slipping and psychosis is inevitable. I've been diagnosed for a few years and been a NEET since 19 (25 now) you'll notice your deterioration in real time and may need a trip to the ward if not careful. Also addiction can amplify psychotic behavior, I suffered from alcoholism (sober 1+yr) which made me 3x as mad, if you are using a substance really moderate and watch your intake so it doesn't exacerbate your current illness. It took many years and many admissions and many methods but I've finally stabilized to a point of consistent normalcy, thanks to medication taken daily and an injection monthly, although I hardly engage in it I fit into society quite well now. I would recommend you have some supports in place for your ailment, for example I see a support worker once a week to hang with and I also visit a therapist weekly whom works in a mental health clinic which I get my injection and psychiatry as well. I have a case manager who catches up and helps my progression, one through the disability service and another through the clinic, this is all to keep me accountable and active and costs are covered through disability government services. I've progressed a long way from my past whether severe paranoia to delusions etc, I have an obtainable future now and finally consistently sane. Just because I have this illness doesn't mean I should quit on life, I plan to study and aim toward a job real soon and will no longer need the assistance as much, there's nothing wrong with wanting to NEET if you think it'll help then do it. Its just that my time is nearly up and its soon to become that moment to venture out, but for you entering this lifestyle you need to take precautions and have a proper plan since you aren't the run of the mill NEET with only typical depression/anxiety. I wish you the best on your journey anon, oh and lastly, stay away from amphetamines you'll eventually undoubtedly loop out and worsen
Little advice from one diagnosed schizophrenic to another. First of all I understand you have a supportive family I do too which I talk to regularly, this relates if you plan on living alone as I do in NEETdom. Being a NEET is okay but isolation for extended periods of time is not, especially for schizos, you'll find your sanity slipping and psychosis is inevitable. I've been diagnosed for a few years and been a NEET since 19 (25 now) you'll notice your deterioration in real time and may need a trip to the ward if not careful. Also addiction can amplify psychotic behavior, I suffered from alcoholism (sober 1+yr) which made me 3x as mad, if you are using a substance really moderate and watch your intake so it doesn't exacerbate your current illness. It took many years and many admissions and many methods but I've finally stabilized to a point of consistent normalcy, thanks to medication taken daily and an injection monthly, although I hardly engage in it I fit into society quite well now. I would recommend you have some supports in place for your ailment, for example I see a support worker once a week to hang with and I also visit a therapist weekly whom works in a mental health clinic which I get my injection and psychiatry as well. I have a case manager who catches up and helps my progression, one through the disability service and another through the clinic, this is all to keep me accountable and active and costs are covered through disability government services. I've progressed a long way from my past whether severe paranoia to delusions etc, I have an obtainable future now and finally consistently sane. Just because I have this illness doesn't mean I should quit on life, I plan to study and aim toward a job real soon and will no longer need the assistance as much, there's nothing wrong with wanting to NEET if you think it'll help then do it. Its just that my time is nearly up and its soon to become that moment to venture out, but for you entering this lifestyle you need to take precautions and have a proper plan since you aren't the run of the mill NEET with only typical depression/anxiety. I wish you the best on your journey anon, oh and lastly, stay away from amphetamines you'll eventually undoubtedly loop out and worsen
>>276017
crazy is a derogatory term while neurodivergent is proper terminology, there is no soft language involved here, you're willingly applying a derogatory term used by ignorant individuals to describe neurodivergence onto yourself, which makes you have more in common with them than the opposite, making your "noble" gateekeping (more of a form of teenage elitism) a complete charade
i don't think that your problem is BPD, it's being underaged
crazy is a derogatory term while neurodivergent is proper terminology, there is no soft language involved here, you're willingly applying a derogatory term used by ignorant individuals to describe neurodivergence onto yourself, which makes you have more in common with them than the opposite, making your "noble" gateekeping (more of a form of teenage elitism) a complete charade
i don't think that your problem is BPD, it's being underaged
>>276022
So if someone kills himself from depression without a diagnosis or being inpatient, he never had severe depression? At what point did the severe depression start - one milisecond before death?
So if someone kills himself from depression without a diagnosis or being inpatient, he never had severe depression? At what point did the severe depression start - one milisecond before death?
>>276082
how did you get people to help you? I mean I've tried all my life to get help from the government and doctors and never, EVER, got any help in any form. Where do you live anon?
how did you get people to help you? I mean I've tried all my life to get help from the government and doctors and never, EVER, got any help in any form. Where do you live anon?
>>276083
>crazy is a derogatory term
"Crazy" is not a derogatory term, sometimes it's better to explain your condition to dumb people with simple words.
>while neurodivergent is proper terminology
"Neurodivergent" is a meme word and not a recognized medical term. Autism is not a mental illness, I don't think we (psychiatric patients) and autists should be grouped together into a single word, for medical reasons. We require different treatment and care and it's important to make some distinctions, specially at some environments (i.e. workplace).
>>276084
>So if someone kills himself from depression without a diagnosis or being inpatient, he never had severe depression
Suicidal behavior is actually indicative of severe symptoms/severe patients, not of meme depression.
>crazy is a derogatory term
"Crazy" is not a derogatory term, sometimes it's better to explain your condition to dumb people with simple words.
>while neurodivergent is proper terminology
"Neurodivergent" is a meme word and not a recognized medical term. Autism is not a mental illness, I don't think we (psychiatric patients) and autists should be grouped together into a single word, for medical reasons. We require different treatment and care and it's important to make some distinctions, specially at some environments (i.e. workplace).
>>276084
>So if someone kills himself from depression without a diagnosis or being inpatient, he never had severe depression
Suicidal behavior is actually indicative of severe symptoms/severe patients, not of meme depression.
>>276144
>Suicidal behavior is actually indicative of severe symptoms/severe patients, not of meme depression.
Or someone who has rationally considered that life is miserable and not worth it. A million people kill themselves each year, it's not that big of a deal. Relax, it'll be over soon.
>Suicidal behavior is actually indicative of severe symptoms/severe patients, not of meme depression.
Or someone who has rationally considered that life is miserable and not worth it. A million people kill themselves each year, it's not that big of a deal. Relax, it'll be over soon.
>>276144
>Suicidal behavior is actually indicative of severe symptoms/severe patients, not of meme depression.
so your mental illness, suffering and suicidal tendencies are not real unless they're validated by some shmuck with a degree
boy for someone who's so eager to keep outsiders at bay you sure put great stock in their opinions
>"Crazy" is not a derogatory term
i assure you that the professionals you keep sucking off so much are more likely to utilize the term neurodivergent than the word crazy, fucking retard
>Suicidal behavior is actually indicative of severe symptoms/severe patients, not of meme depression.
so your mental illness, suffering and suicidal tendencies are not real unless they're validated by some shmuck with a degree
boy for someone who's so eager to keep outsiders at bay you sure put great stock in their opinions
>"Crazy" is not a derogatory term
i assure you that the professionals you keep sucking off so much are more likely to utilize the term neurodivergent than the word crazy, fucking retard
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>>276166
>You didnt answer the question.
What question? You wrote a bunch of idiocy that makes no sense and I'm not glued to wizchan 24/7.
>>276150
>so your mental illness, suffering and suicidal tendencies are not real unless they're validated by some shmuck with a degree
Again, changing goalpoasts. Initially we were making a distinction between severe psychiatric patients and people pretending to be mentally ill. What you're discussing is irrelevant to the initial argument.
>i assure you that the professionals you keep sucking off so much are more likely to utilize the term neurodivergent than the word crazy
No professional uses the word "neurodivergent" for two reasons: it's not a medically recognized term, and you CAN'T group autists and psychiatric patients on the same category. Different patients, different needs, different treatment, different meds. Only special snowflakes from social media use such word.
"Neurodivergent" is a buzzword made up by people that don't really fit into the categories of "autism" or "psychiatric patient" but still want that special snowflake treatment. There's nothing offensive with "autism" or "psychiatric patients" and we shouldn't accommodate soft language to make succubi feel special and unique.
Please stop replying to my posts, you're a fool that doesn't deserve my time.
>You didnt answer the question.
What question? You wrote a bunch of idiocy that makes no sense and I'm not glued to wizchan 24/7.
>>276150
>so your mental illness, suffering and suicidal tendencies are not real unless they're validated by some shmuck with a degree
Again, changing goalpoasts. Initially we were making a distinction between severe psychiatric patients and people pretending to be mentally ill. What you're discussing is irrelevant to the initial argument.
>i assure you that the professionals you keep sucking off so much are more likely to utilize the term neurodivergent than the word crazy
No professional uses the word "neurodivergent" for two reasons: it's not a medically recognized term, and you CAN'T group autists and psychiatric patients on the same category. Different patients, different needs, different treatment, different meds. Only special snowflakes from social media use such word.
"Neurodivergent" is a buzzword made up by people that don't really fit into the categories of "autism" or "psychiatric patient" but still want that special snowflake treatment. There's nothing offensive with "autism" or "psychiatric patients" and we shouldn't accommodate soft language to make succubi feel special and unique.
Please stop replying to my posts, you're a fool that doesn't deserve my time.