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What do you think there is after death?
Recently I feel an existential void and I would like to philosophize with the forum
Recently I feel an existential void and I would like to philosophize with the forum
It doesn't matter what there is after death. Fearing it and looking forward to it are equally pointless. We can only let our imagination paint us a hopeful or desperate picture of what is to come. It may be fun to do so, but do not stress that you will never know for certain what awaits until it is all that stands before you. So it is wise to simply accept that death is death, and It is coming. Life is life, and it is here. So live now while you're a part of life and cross in to the concepts of death when you come to that bridge.
I personally think death will be comfy. But there is much to do in life that is comfy also. If death is the end, we may regret missing out of some of the comfyness offered by life. So it is good to strive for comfy now so that we may be double comfy in death. But there is also comfort in struggle. For example, killing those who infringe on the comfyness of man is a most max comfy endeavor.
I personally think death will be comfy. But there is much to do in life that is comfy also. If death is the end, we may regret missing out of some of the comfyness offered by life. So it is good to strive for comfy now so that we may be double comfy in death. But there is also comfort in struggle. For example, killing those who infringe on the comfyness of man is a most max comfy endeavor.
if you didn't attain Divine Knowledge in this lifetime then you just go back and do it all over again. small chance your soul gets broken down into smaller pieces so you end up as an animal or even insect. this realm is a kind of mixing pot that repeats the cycle until you do what you need to do.
>>278134
Life sucks so much and things are so terrible all of the time that the fact that everything is so bad unfortunately means that this is probably what might end up happening and it terrifies me
Life sucks so much and things are so terrible all of the time that the fact that everything is so bad unfortunately means that this is probably what might end up happening and it terrifies me
>>278134
An afterlife with everyone burning in hell would be pretty dope. Everyone gets what they deserve, no cutting in line.
But life? Worse than that in many ways. You get to experience the slow miserable death, while watching other people living fantastic lives. They’ll just keep winning and you’ll just keep losing. That’s life. And if hell is real, I imagine we just keep getting this again and again.
An afterlife with everyone burning in hell would be pretty dope. Everyone gets what they deserve, no cutting in line.
But life? Worse than that in many ways. You get to experience the slow miserable death, while watching other people living fantastic lives. They’ll just keep winning and you’ll just keep losing. That’s life. And if hell is real, I imagine we just keep getting this again and again.
>>278266
According to orthodox christian saints hell is not a place of physical fires and torture but a disconnection from God after death. God is still there since he is present everywhere but it's like being in the same room with a former friend after cutting ties with him.
According to orthodox christian saints hell is not a place of physical fires and torture but a disconnection from God after death. God is still there since he is present everywhere but it's like being in the same room with a former friend after cutting ties with him.
>>278129
supposedly you reincarnate but you float around until you can find another body. In that state where your soul is nothing but a mindless entity driven by tendency what state you are in depends on how you died. if you died in a bad state from your perspective you will be in hell, endlessly falling in unimaginable agony because there is nothing to stop it, you don't even have your own intelligence or will. I think the universe decided that too many people are dying in fear so thats why people tend to be peaceful on their death beds, as they accept their death and they see the light and all. If you die in a better state it will be like heaven. A yogi explained that when you die you lose your mind and any direction your mind is going in will multiply a million fold with nothing to stop it. think of when you wake up but are half asleep. you may be peaceful and you rest in or you may be anxious but in that half awake state where you are disoriented you are kind of just falling into whatever emotion your are in. thats a miniature version of what it must be like.
supposedly you reincarnate but you float around until you can find another body. In that state where your soul is nothing but a mindless entity driven by tendency what state you are in depends on how you died. if you died in a bad state from your perspective you will be in hell, endlessly falling in unimaginable agony because there is nothing to stop it, you don't even have your own intelligence or will. I think the universe decided that too many people are dying in fear so thats why people tend to be peaceful on their death beds, as they accept their death and they see the light and all. If you die in a better state it will be like heaven. A yogi explained that when you die you lose your mind and any direction your mind is going in will multiply a million fold with nothing to stop it. think of when you wake up but are half asleep. you may be peaceful and you rest in or you may be anxious but in that half awake state where you are disoriented you are kind of just falling into whatever emotion your are in. thats a miniature version of what it must be like.
>>278129
What retarded fucking thread. Full of scifi nonsense about afterlife. I am not smart myself, but holy shit you guys like to fantasize about fairy tales
What retarded fucking thread. Full of scifi nonsense about afterlife. I am not smart myself, but holy shit you guys like to fantasize about fairy tales
>>278272
I recall being taught that hell is similar to what you said, that it's more of a emotional distancing of the soul away from god. The way it sounded, one could still redeem oneself in the afterlife and come closer to god. Maybe that's a misunderstanding, though. I don't believe it either way, but thought it was an interesting concept of hell.
I recall being taught that hell is similar to what you said, that it's more of a emotional distancing of the soul away from god. The way it sounded, one could still redeem oneself in the afterlife and come closer to god. Maybe that's a misunderstanding, though. I don't believe it either way, but thought it was an interesting concept of hell.
>>278324
>The way it sounded, one could still redeem oneself in the afterlife and come closer to god.
Since God is still there there is still hope for salvation much in the same way you can pray for anyone who has passed. It's just something that is up to no human to judge.
>The way it sounded, one could still redeem oneself in the afterlife and come closer to god.
Since God is still there there is still hope for salvation much in the same way you can pray for anyone who has passed. It's just something that is up to no human to judge.
I think there is an afterlife, it would be pretty fucking pathetic if this reality is all there is.
As I see things, every being has a soul which gives him free will and the possibility to rinnegate this world. At a point of one's death, there are two possibilities:
1. The person has used his free will, his soul, to understand that he has no real connection to this world and that all his desires and fears, and all of his pain were mere illusions. He renounces this world and is freed
2. The person has not cared enough of his free will and has been trapped by the illusions of this world. Upon death, his attachment to the material life he just had leads him to voluntarily reincarnate to start anew. Example: a guy kills himself because his succubi left him. At death, he keeps on focusing on how much he loves her and misses her and decides to come back to see her again, he goes himself into the trap. Of course, he will never see again anyway and will in fact completely forget about her the moment he is reborn
1. The person has used his free will, his soul, to understand that he has no real connection to this world and that all his desires and fears, and all of his pain were mere illusions. He renounces this world and is freed
2. The person has not cared enough of his free will and has been trapped by the illusions of this world. Upon death, his attachment to the material life he just had leads him to voluntarily reincarnate to start anew. Example: a guy kills himself because his succubi left him. At death, he keeps on focusing on how much he loves her and misses her and decides to come back to see her again, he goes himself into the trap. Of course, he will never see again anyway and will in fact completely forget about her the moment he is reborn
>>278320
I mean what else could it possibly be besides nothing? Death is a complete unknown and a door which with regards to what lays beyond we can only fill with our ignorant imaginations until we pass it and lose contact with those here.
I mean what else could it possibly be besides nothing? Death is a complete unknown and a door which with regards to what lays beyond we can only fill with our ignorant imaginations until we pass it and lose contact with those here.
so all i need to break away is to reconce this fucking worldhole? how do i do that? do i call the god and tell him a few choice words of what think of him? what's his phone number?
>>278320
I wonder how you would feel if you knew that like 50% of the scientists in the American Association for the Advancement of Science believe in some sort of higher power. You're free to disagree with them, but to see such intelligent people believing in spirituality hints that the idea is not all moonshine.
I wonder how you would feel if you knew that like 50% of the scientists in the American Association for the Advancement of Science believe in some sort of higher power. You're free to disagree with them, but to see such intelligent people believing in spirituality hints that the idea is not all moonshine.
i dont know why im in this body. like this FIXED point of view. i want to be cremated because it rules out that my literal energy has been transferred to some bacteria or fungus then i'll get eaten by something and boom the next thing the creature pops out is me. that is if what bonds my EXPERIENCING of life and existence is the physical matter. im stupid not a scientist but i dont know i think this might be it. or its nothing or some God thing and ive really fucked up!
>>279360
holy shit if im right i think i truly might be stuck and every time i gain consiousness i need to remember or learn this information to dispose of myself correctly to prolong thinking
holy shit if im right i think i truly might be stuck and every time i gain consiousness i need to remember or learn this information to dispose of myself correctly to prolong thinking
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I can honestly say I don't really care or think about it. I'm going there anyway, I can't escape what's coming if anything. I want to die in this world, so the next won't really change anything. So I don't think about it.
Our experience is just brain juices stewing in warm blood and chemicals
So once that warm oxygenated blood runs out we stop this experience and instantly become another as for when well it's not precise just as death isn't precise
What this means is that you have the possibility to become any relatively intelligent animal
There's no higher power controlling this you're just guaranteed a consciousness because the other option is nothing so the something must be a something
And so there's the possibility of being an animal not only on this planet but any inhabited planet anywhere
But also my consciousness is no different and just as normal to yours or the person with the most perfect life any of us could imagine
So not only do we have a good chance at a better life next time round
It's guaranteed
But it's unlikley to be as a human….
But it's also guaranteed to be worse than this one too
So once that warm oxygenated blood runs out we stop this experience and instantly become another as for when well it's not precise just as death isn't precise
What this means is that you have the possibility to become any relatively intelligent animal
There's no higher power controlling this you're just guaranteed a consciousness because the other option is nothing so the something must be a something
And so there's the possibility of being an animal not only on this planet but any inhabited planet anywhere
But also my consciousness is no different and just as normal to yours or the person with the most perfect life any of us could imagine
So not only do we have a good chance at a better life next time round
It's guaranteed
But it's unlikley to be as a human….
But it's also guaranteed to be worse than this one too
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>>278129
>>279360
To the extent that being is only known to us as living, being-dead is beyond representation. Those who can't think being-dead remain then at the level of representation, yet the desire to go beyond is to forget that being was only ever a metaphor appropriated by life through its boundaries. There are lots of places where living/dying can be examined to reappropriate difference:
1. the conservation strategies of multicellular life not guarding against death per se, but a death that doesn't belong to itself
2. the case of cell division among single-cell organisms marking the end of individuals uncompensated by death
3. the course of inorganic, to organic, to inorganic as a rare detour of the same type
>>279360
To the extent that being is only known to us as living, being-dead is beyond representation. Those who can't think being-dead remain then at the level of representation, yet the desire to go beyond is to forget that being was only ever a metaphor appropriated by life through its boundaries. There are lots of places where living/dying can be examined to reappropriate difference:
1. the conservation strategies of multicellular life not guarding against death per se, but a death that doesn't belong to itself
2. the case of cell division among single-cell organisms marking the end of individuals uncompensated by death
3. the course of inorganic, to organic, to inorganic as a rare detour of the same type
When you die; you don't truly realize that you've died. Your consciousness gets transferred to an alternate reality almost identical to the one you were born into and died in. Except that the alternate reality can be gradually altered by your negative thoughts–like a dream turning into a nightmare. The more you fight the realization that you're already dead; the more painful the experience.
You could have easily died during infancy or early childhood before your baptism–and if it ever crosses your conscious awareness that unbaptized children could die and go to Limbo–the thought stays with you even in death and subtly manipulates your reality as you "age". What's worse is that you can get punished in Limbo for sins you committed after dying–which means that, taking into consideration that Limbo is the first circle of Hell–that you could easily descend deeper into Hell by trying to fight it.
You could have easily died during infancy or early childhood before your baptism–and if it ever crosses your conscious awareness that unbaptized children could die and go to Limbo–the thought stays with you even in death and subtly manipulates your reality as you "age". What's worse is that you can get punished in Limbo for sins you committed after dying–which means that, taking into consideration that Limbo is the first circle of Hell–that you could easily descend deeper into Hell by trying to fight it.
Endless situations that may end up repeating themselves in every possible way or form if time does end up being cyclical. If not, different consciousness in different ways.
This is not all there is, but we might not have the proper consciousness for self-awareness after death depending on whatever happens.
This is not all there is, but we might not have the proper consciousness for self-awareness after death depending on whatever happens.
>>278129
Anything is possible. One thing that is horrifying but very likely is that you will be born again as you were, exactly the same life forevermore. Or maybe with slight variation. It is practially impossible to explain with words, but I felt such possibility as being real.
Or maybe it will depend on your idea of afterlife. Anything is possible, the limits set by the body will dissapear along with it and the primordial mind will rule over matter.
Anything is possible. One thing that is horrifying but very likely is that you will be born again as you were, exactly the same life forevermore. Or maybe with slight variation. It is practially impossible to explain with words, but I felt such possibility as being real.
Or maybe it will depend on your idea of afterlife. Anything is possible, the limits set by the body will dissapear along with it and the primordial mind will rule over matter.
>>279475
I'm sad for my mom, if it really works that way, then it is likely that her son killed himself in his teens and there is no way to contact that version of her and tell her that i'm alright. It always felt like there had to be some more consequences from what i did, but it was oddly business as usual the next day, the transition from one life to another was smooth, like nothing had happened, but i remember what i intended.
I'm sad for my mom, if it really works that way, then it is likely that her son killed himself in his teens and there is no way to contact that version of her and tell her that i'm alright. It always felt like there had to be some more consequences from what i did, but it was oddly business as usual the next day, the transition from one life to another was smooth, like nothing had happened, but i remember what i intended.
Life: Part 2
We get sent to hell and have to fight the demons that pulled us down there. When we win, we get to reincarnate as an insect of our choice.
We get sent to hell and have to fight the demons that pulled us down there. When we win, we get to reincarnate as an insect of our choice.
Haven't we already died many times already? Me from 10 years ago is like a different person to the me now. I read some forum posts I made 15 years ago and I had to cringe. It was like reading comments from someone else. Yet at some point that was "me".
>>278129
Hopefully nothing.
Ive never asked for this nor it benefits me.
Yet it been violently forced upon me.
Hopefully nothing.
Ive never asked for this nor it benefits me.
Yet it been violently forced upon me.
>>280171
Yes, that's the frightening thing. How did we get here? Out of nowhere (so to speak) one day we simply entered the world and were tasked with progressively making sense of everything around us. What did this to us? Demiurge? Biological chance? Seriously.
Yes, that's the frightening thing. How did we get here? Out of nowhere (so to speak) one day we simply entered the world and were tasked with progressively making sense of everything around us. What did this to us? Demiurge? Biological chance? Seriously.
I am convinced that our entire perception of reality is created by chemical reactions happening inside the brain. There's a large body of evidence that points to this conclusion imo. Once your brain stops doing its thing, there's no more perception of reality from your viewpoint. Like being asleep except without dreams and it lasts forever. Like it was before you were born.
>>280249
This part becomes more problematic than you realize when you're psychotic and develop Cotard's delusion
This part becomes more problematic than you realize when you're psychotic and develop Cotard's delusion
>>280249
As much as I've tried with faith throughout my childhood and young adult life, that's all I expect of life.
As much as I've tried with faith throughout my childhood and young adult life, that's all I expect of life.
You spiritual folks are terribly hopeless. In your delusional belief in a divine force you fail to perceive the vast expanses of the Void.
Everything you love, cherish, every bit of your faith, mind, all your values, beliefs, hopes, everything is but passing images inside the ever fluctuating mind of the Void.
Everything you love, cherish, every bit of your faith, mind, all your values, beliefs, hopes, everything is but passing images inside the ever fluctuating mind of the Void.
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>>280630
B-but it's obvious that if brain consists of cells then it's operation consists of interactions between them. It doesn't exactly boil down to chemical reactions, but isn't too far from it either.
B-but it's obvious that if brain consists of cells then it's operation consists of interactions between them. It doesn't exactly boil down to chemical reactions, but isn't too far from it either.