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How do you stop being addicted to +18 content? I've been trying to quit forever for 2 years but I always come back
Do you have an effective method?
Do you have an effective method?
>>278498
Learn a trade, go for a walk, get a job, clean your house, do a sport, do something, whatever, but that involves moving your hands and lifting your ass off the chair.
Learn a trade, go for a walk, get a job, clean your house, do a sport, do something, whatever, but that involves moving your hands and lifting your ass off the chair.
The only alternative to 18+ content is to get yourself an 18+ friend and have sex with them.
As a guy you have certain needs and masturbation is the lesser evil compared to the alternative.
Seriously, I don't get the obsession with nofap and other bullshit.
As a guy you have certain needs and masturbation is the lesser evil compared to the alternative.
Seriously, I don't get the obsession with nofap and other bullshit.
>>278502
Exactly, as a guy you have that need. If you do not fulfill it, what then?
If you do fulfill it, why should anything at all happen? Your brain can rest now, you fulfilled your duty as a living being.
Your brain doesn't need to flex it's muscles, no pain is felt therefore no need exists to get you moving, fibbing, walking, looking, investigating
Exactly, as a guy you have that need. If you do not fulfill it, what then?
If you do fulfill it, why should anything at all happen? Your brain can rest now, you fulfilled your duty as a living being.
Your brain doesn't need to flex it's muscles, no pain is felt therefore no need exists to get you moving, fibbing, walking, looking, investigating
Easy peasy method, veggie diet, cold showers and calisthenics.
Finding different copes also helps
Finding different copes also helps
>>278504
I jerk off every day and I have no problems accomplishing and doing things. Something's wrong with you if you turn catatonic after you cum LOL
I jerk off every day and I have no problems accomplishing and doing things. Something's wrong with you if you turn catatonic after you cum LOL
>>278515
There was this book, amongst muh warp wanings: The Tao of Sex (by Dan Reid) is already clear of how much this is killing you all. At least the wiz here has some body sensors alerting him about it.
Do wizardly, become alchemist. Empty the fap thread for 2D is making your brains melted samewise as 3D, they are still succubi.
There was this book, amongst muh warp wanings: The Tao of Sex (by Dan Reid) is already clear of how much this is killing you all. At least the wiz here has some body sensors alerting him about it.
Do wizardly, become alchemist. Empty the fap thread for 2D is making your brains melted samewise as 3D, they are still succubi.
>>278498
I'm only consuming Hentai VNs for now, i'm trying to reprogramming my mind to become like those japanese art college students that almost puked when they had to make a painting using a real naked succubus as a model.
I'm only consuming Hentai VNs for now, i'm trying to reprogramming my mind to become like those japanese art college students that almost puked when they had to make a painting using a real naked succubus as a model.
>>278498
>+18 content
What, you mean like porn, or +18 content in general?
My older brother shames me whenever he catches me watching anything that is obviously not for adults (e.g. anime).
>+18 content
What, you mean like porn, or +18 content in general?
My older brother shames me whenever he catches me watching anything that is obviously not for adults (e.g. anime).
>>278498
I think it's important to emphasize that looking up porn or other 18+ content is completely normal, especially if you are a wizard. What did you expect? You're a biological being. It's by evolutionary design that you're hard-wired to get horny all the time. Those of our ancestors that didn't, obviously died off.
As with all things, it can obviously get out of hand. If you're doing nothing by gooning for hours each day, then there's obviously something wrong, but just jacking one or two times a day? Perfectly normal.
It's perfectly reasonable to have self-hatred toward yourself for being a lesser man than yourself, but hate yourself for the right reasons, and not for obviously trivial factors beyond your control. Otherwise you are just bikeshedding your own life.
I think it's important to emphasize that looking up porn or other 18+ content is completely normal, especially if you are a wizard. What did you expect? You're a biological being. It's by evolutionary design that you're hard-wired to get horny all the time. Those of our ancestors that didn't, obviously died off.
As with all things, it can obviously get out of hand. If you're doing nothing by gooning for hours each day, then there's obviously something wrong, but just jacking one or two times a day? Perfectly normal.
It's perfectly reasonable to have self-hatred toward yourself for being a lesser man than yourself, but hate yourself for the right reasons, and not for obviously trivial factors beyond your control. Otherwise you are just bikeshedding your own life.
>>278498
Those who pursue pleasure are not just running from boredom, but actively experiencing it.
Those who pursue pleasure are not just running from boredom, but actively experiencing it.
1. sexual emotions, or emotions in general have no moralism, trying to cope with moralism can cause issues like stress and even mental breakdowns, accept your libido and/or i terests as it is
2. learn to embrace the sufferibg of not satisfying your monkey brain, extremely difficult, but remember this: suffering causes change and gives the spiritual drive for greatness
3. goon occasionally to make sure you arent hiding or reoressing yourself
feel, but do not react
2. learn to embrace the sufferibg of not satisfying your monkey brain, extremely difficult, but remember this: suffering causes change and gives the spiritual drive for greatness
3. goon occasionally to make sure you arent hiding or reoressing yourself
feel, but do not react
You simply don't posses the willpower to accept that you are a gay no balls cuckold. It's completely normal for a gay no balls cuckold to watch porn and do anal play all the while.
Once I realized how pathetic I was in watching porn, I stopped. And you know what? Nothing changed. At all. I started to daydream more again, but I'm only happy with that.
Everytime I think about porn I remeber that I'm about to watch *another* guy fucking a succubus which is *not* mine and I cringe from disgust and self loathing.
Just think about it. You are so miserable, pathetic and retarded that your existence *relies* on somebody fucking some another body for you. You are so misaligned that you are okay admitting that you are unable to either fuck a succubus yourself or disregard her completely.
Just really think about it. I cringe as I write this post. People who find excuses for watching porn are so lame and pathetic and miserable and gay and cuck. Gays in denial.
If I want to fap, I do just that. I do not need a succubus to help me. I do not need a guy either. In denying porn I achieve self contained existence and internal peace.
Once I realized how pathetic I was in watching porn, I stopped. And you know what? Nothing changed. At all. I started to daydream more again, but I'm only happy with that.
Everytime I think about porn I remeber that I'm about to watch *another* guy fucking a succubus which is *not* mine and I cringe from disgust and self loathing.
Just think about it. You are so miserable, pathetic and retarded that your existence *relies* on somebody fucking some another body for you. You are so misaligned that you are okay admitting that you are unable to either fuck a succubus yourself or disregard her completely.
Just really think about it. I cringe as I write this post. People who find excuses for watching porn are so lame and pathetic and miserable and gay and cuck. Gays in denial.
If I want to fap, I do just that. I do not need a succubus to help me. I do not need a guy either. In denying porn I achieve self contained existence and internal peace.
>>279614
This incoherent rambling does have some truth in it. I stopped watching porn for a year and experienced no real positive benefits. I did jerk off less, but not to any significant extent. No mood improvements or energy improvements.
I think porn is way more impactful to normalfags than to wizards. If you have to please some she-creature with flabby titties and you have access to the finest artistic culmination of man's effort to sexually please himself, you will find it difficult to perform.
This incoherent rambling does have some truth in it. I stopped watching porn for a year and experienced no real positive benefits. I did jerk off less, but not to any significant extent. No mood improvements or energy improvements.
I think porn is way more impactful to normalfags than to wizards. If you have to please some she-creature with flabby titties and you have access to the finest artistic culmination of man's effort to sexually please himself, you will find it difficult to perform.
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starting today I'ml gonna counteract every relapse by deleting double the porn I just downloaded, thus discouraging myself from doing it. It's foolproof
I am disappointed in u wizs. Y'all sound like some reddit retards came here to be cool. Wiz stay away from +18 shit don't give any importance above this post. THE WAY IS LIKE THIS; YOU TRY UR BEST NOT TO WATCH STUPID PORN OR HENTAI BS, YOU FAIL, YOU TRY AGAIN, EVERYTIME U TRY AGAIN U GET STRONGER AND LAST LONGER. AFTER 2-3 years you realize you got urself away from it. all these ppl here are fkn degenerate fucks who claim to be virgins but watch porn all the time, cuz it seems to me they just virgins cuz them fucks don't get no puss.
I'm fully convinced that porn addiction is one of the worst things that I fell into and I got into it when I was around 9 years old. Whenever I manage to stay off it for a longer period of time I do feel way better mentally. Just try to avoid porn as much as possible even if it means that you can't browse twitter or 4chan etc. just avoid placed with coomers who post porn so to speak. Wizchan has an advantage because porn is conveniently contained in the one fap thread (which is full of weird shit but I also think it's only like 1-2 posters in there, the pedo and the faggot) and it can't be found in any other thread. Just keep struggling and you will grow stronger.
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>>279619
Wouldn't you delete all your downloaded porn if you wanted to quit?
Wouldn't you delete all your downloaded porn if you wanted to quit?
i spent my teens fapping to 1d erotic lit, where i would CTRL-F replace the names of the succubi, my college years to 2d comics, and didnt get into 3d hd vids until i was well out of college, 2015, age 26. and yet im as porn addicted as any. fap like 8 times a day, which some think is impossible. so it doesnt matter how early or late you get into it. i was in my mid 20s when i got into video porn.
>>279627
addictions only happen because you don't have other positive things in your life that make you happy.
porn and drugs will fill that void.
ideally it should be friends, family, community and career; but boomers destroyed all those things.
addictions only happen because you don't have other positive things in your life that make you happy.
porn and drugs will fill that void.
ideally it should be friends, family, community and career; but boomers destroyed all those things.
>>279626
I wanna quit chronic masturbation, not fapping altogether. I delete everything, I'll just redownload it all over again and relapse harder in the process, best to keep some
I wanna quit chronic masturbation, not fapping altogether. I delete everything, I'll just redownload it all over again and relapse harder in the process, best to keep some
>>279632
and that's where you are. so if you ever don't like it; remember a part of you chose this
and that's where you are. so if you ever don't like it; remember a part of you chose this
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>>279617
Normalfag wizzies are your intellectual and experiential superiors. Might as well just admit it already, there's nothing you can do to change it.
Normalfag wizzies are your intellectual and experiential superiors. Might as well just admit it already, there's nothing you can do to change it.
>>279615
>experienced no real positive benefits
yeah but when have you ever experienced something positive? i find void worshippers lose their soul. so then they can't ever feel something like a normal spiritual person
>experienced no real positive benefits
yeah but when have you ever experienced something positive? i find void worshippers lose their soul. so then they can't ever feel something like a normal spiritual person
>>279631
>porn and drugs will fill that void.
Porn and drugs will destroy your mind until you can't feel even somewhat normal without them. That's not "filling a void", that's expanding the void and bracing it open with steel beams.
>ideally it should be friends, family, community and career;
Ideally it should be self-gratifying endeavors set by yourself, such as creative undertakings or challenges of the mind and body, i.e physical fitness, mathematics, chess, or even a videogame. We're wizards here, social approval and high-status jobs are no determining factors in our happiness.
>but boomers destroyed all those things.
No. Old White people who prospered under White rule are not to blame for the hardships inflicted by old Jews upon young Whites today.
>porn and drugs will fill that void.
Porn and drugs will destroy your mind until you can't feel even somewhat normal without them. That's not "filling a void", that's expanding the void and bracing it open with steel beams.
>ideally it should be friends, family, community and career;
Ideally it should be self-gratifying endeavors set by yourself, such as creative undertakings or challenges of the mind and body, i.e physical fitness, mathematics, chess, or even a videogame. We're wizards here, social approval and high-status jobs are no determining factors in our happiness.
>but boomers destroyed all those things.
No. Old White people who prospered under White rule are not to blame for the hardships inflicted by old Jews upon young Whites today.
>>278498
Alan Carr or anything similar to it with introspection. It's not going to work without thinking on your part. Don't doubt yourself and the ability to leave it behind.
Alan Carr or anything similar to it with introspection. It's not going to work without thinking on your part. Don't doubt yourself and the ability to leave it behind.
I haven't engaged in PMO for over 6 months now, this has so far been my longest streak ever (had a couple three-month streaks before but I ended up relapsing). Gonna throw out some random thoughts that may be insightful:
>feel more lonely now than I was when regularly masturbating
Porn is really a deadly salve, but a salve nonetheless. I guess it's not much different from smoking weed or drinking alcohol to numb your brain of negative feelings. But yeah it's a lot easier to be "content" with having no love in your life when you can relieve that sexual frustration every night. There's also a different kind of loneliness when you're battling something so shameful that you can't even bring it up in public, even meth addicts have that luxury.
>don't go into this because you expect [positive thing] from not looking at porn
This is explained in the easypeasymethod, but even I can attest that I haven't felt any kind of energy boost, or better mental clarity, or positive mood growth, or less anxiety, etc. You would do well to keep in mind that the primary reason for quitting is conquering your addiction to pornography, and anything else should just be treated as a bonus.
>still find myself thinking about porn almost daily
Just goes to show how much of this stuff has really gotten into my system. I basically started watching porn daily at 13 years old, and I'm 27 now. So many topics that cross through my mind seem to wind up on how it relates to porn, and I think that's probably how my mind has been for years now without really realizing it. However, last year I noticed that I was getting sexual intrusive thoughts on a daily basis when I was with people at work or with family, and that seems to have decreased quite a bit.
>>279626
I'm not sure if I would recommend other people do this, but I actually didn't delete my porn. The thing about porn is that there's 500 million terabytes of it available to anyone with an internet connection and something to browse the internet. It's preposterous to think that old porn readily available on a hard drive is somehow more dangerous than new, NOVEL porn readily available on the internet. I've done the whole "delete my entire porn hard drive" thing a couple times and when I relapsed that just gave me a clean slate to start with. The stuff I have is on an encrypted hard drive in another room though, so I don't even have to see the folder every time I open up a file manager. I don't really know how long I'll keep it though.
>feel more lonely now than I was when regularly masturbating
Porn is really a deadly salve, but a salve nonetheless. I guess it's not much different from smoking weed or drinking alcohol to numb your brain of negative feelings. But yeah it's a lot easier to be "content" with having no love in your life when you can relieve that sexual frustration every night. There's also a different kind of loneliness when you're battling something so shameful that you can't even bring it up in public, even meth addicts have that luxury.
>don't go into this because you expect [positive thing] from not looking at porn
This is explained in the easypeasymethod, but even I can attest that I haven't felt any kind of energy boost, or better mental clarity, or positive mood growth, or less anxiety, etc. You would do well to keep in mind that the primary reason for quitting is conquering your addiction to pornography, and anything else should just be treated as a bonus.
>still find myself thinking about porn almost daily
Just goes to show how much of this stuff has really gotten into my system. I basically started watching porn daily at 13 years old, and I'm 27 now. So many topics that cross through my mind seem to wind up on how it relates to porn, and I think that's probably how my mind has been for years now without really realizing it. However, last year I noticed that I was getting sexual intrusive thoughts on a daily basis when I was with people at work or with family, and that seems to have decreased quite a bit.
>>279626
I'm not sure if I would recommend other people do this, but I actually didn't delete my porn. The thing about porn is that there's 500 million terabytes of it available to anyone with an internet connection and something to browse the internet. It's preposterous to think that old porn readily available on a hard drive is somehow more dangerous than new, NOVEL porn readily available on the internet. I've done the whole "delete my entire porn hard drive" thing a couple times and when I relapsed that just gave me a clean slate to start with. The stuff I have is on an encrypted hard drive in another room though, so I don't even have to see the folder every time I open up a file manager. I don't really know how long I'll keep it though.
I get stuck in a cycle of deleting it all then starting over my collection and deleting it again. Day 4
you will really only overcome sex addiction/porn addiction once you've rationally examined why you are always "re-lapsing." whatever made us (god, evil demiurge, non-human species of foreign observers) obviously made us to be sexual. the metabolic constitution of our brain literally is constantly recycling specific chemicals that keep these appetites at the front of our thoughts every day. attempting to oppose sexual hunger with logical arguments will almost always fail, because the feelings in the moment we feel them are much stronger than any practiced reason. in order to deaden these drives you would have to interrupt the serotoninergic metabolism of your brain through the ingesting of ssris/snris (which I in nowise recommend). desiring closeness with others is exactly and perfectly human. when you are masturbating, you are simulating this closeness with yourself, as there is no-one beside you to fulfill the hunger you so deeply feel. however, with all this said, it is up to you to make honest sense of why you are always re-lapsing…and if you discover that this is because you naturally want to feel close to someone else, using the logical weight of the regret you feel post-ejaculation, likely will not be enough to overcome the addiction, as the base drive of union with another yet remains.
Porn addiction isn't recognized by the ICD-11 nor DSM-5. Not yet, anyway. See for yourself:
https://icd.who.int/browse11/l-m/en
There's drug addiction, gambling addiction, and [video] gaming addiction so far.
https://icd.who.int/browse11/l-m/en
There's drug addiction, gambling addiction, and [video] gaming addiction so far.
>>279731
> ICD-11 nor DSM-5
I don't know what the fuck that is and I don't care, imagine obeying some alphabet letters
> ICD-11 nor DSM-5
I don't know what the fuck that is and I don't care, imagine obeying some alphabet letters
>>279757
DSM-5 is what drug taking, normie student assholes who study psychology use to find out what made up mental illness you supposedly have despite it being completely inaccurate since it always applies to multiple supposed mental illnesses at the same time. Its a very flawed system.
DSM-5 is what drug taking, normie student assholes who study psychology use to find out what made up mental illness you supposedly have despite it being completely inaccurate since it always applies to multiple supposed mental illnesses at the same time. Its a very flawed system.
>>279758
It's a trip because both laypeople and professionals are really obsessed with labels. Like you'll get laypeople throwing around labels like "psychopath" or "schizo" then you'll get other laypeople going "that's not being anti-social that's just having social anxiety" then you'll get other laypeople accusing the professionals of "over-diagnosing" and labeling everything as "mental illness" then you'll have a psychiatrist prescribing Adderall to a new patient after a 5 minute conversation.
It's a trip because both laypeople and professionals are really obsessed with labels. Like you'll get laypeople throwing around labels like "psychopath" or "schizo" then you'll get other laypeople going "that's not being anti-social that's just having social anxiety" then you'll get other laypeople accusing the professionals of "over-diagnosing" and labeling everything as "mental illness" then you'll have a psychiatrist prescribing Adderall to a new patient after a 5 minute conversation.
>>279766
Psychiatry is really a joke. It's really just normies who study things that anyone can learn online and then you have to rely on the so called competence of one person and the generic stuff they say during consulting wasting time of your life with no actual benefits and on top of that they try to put you on meds. They can't even diagnose properly and keep giving different results and definitions. I'm glad that some AI models are already doing a better job at consulting than humans and that it will essentially replace them more and more, it's way better for the patients and it also throw a wrench into the gears of psychiatry.
Psychiatry is really a joke. It's really just normies who study things that anyone can learn online and then you have to rely on the so called competence of one person and the generic stuff they say during consulting wasting time of your life with no actual benefits and on top of that they try to put you on meds. They can't even diagnose properly and keep giving different results and definitions. I'm glad that some AI models are already doing a better job at consulting than humans and that it will essentially replace them more and more, it's way better for the patients and it also throw a wrench into the gears of psychiatry.
>>279771
I tend to agree, although it's been a long time since I've been to one. I mean, I'm sure they help some people, which is great, but how in the fuck are they so highly paid? It feel like they just guess, and if something works, great. And if the medicine doesn't, oh well, let's try another, or go fuck yourself, I cannot help you. What other profession is afforded this luxury?
I tend to agree, although it's been a long time since I've been to one. I mean, I'm sure they help some people, which is great, but how in the fuck are they so highly paid? It feel like they just guess, and if something works, great. And if the medicine doesn't, oh well, let's try another, or go fuck yourself, I cannot help you. What other profession is afforded this luxury?
>>279783
I remember when people would mock me for claiming that drug addiction is real
>LMAO how can be drugaddiction be real? bro just like stop smoking crack lmao like put down the pipe close your eyes turn around and walk away rotfl ur just fukn weak
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I remember when people would mock me for claiming that drug addiction is real
>LMAO how can be drugaddiction be real? bro just like stop smoking crack lmao like put down the pipe close your eyes turn around and walk away rotfl ur just fukn weak
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>>279799
Weed addicts are the worse kind of druggies
>bruh weed isn't addictive
>I can't do anything when I'm not high tho
Weed addicts are the worse kind of druggies
>bruh weed isn't addictive
>I can't do anything when I'm not high tho
>>279731
It will be added to it very soon. If vidya addiction is in there, porn is next up to be added
It will be added to it very soon. If vidya addiction is in there, porn is next up to be added
>>279801
It won't, there's a reason it's not there, they want people addicted to porn. Why do you think free porn is so easy to find?
It won't, there's a reason it's not there, they want people addicted to porn. Why do you think free porn is so easy to find?
>>279816
Im pretty sure some progressive retards who studied psychology will try to prevent any meaningful criticism of pornography. Modern psychology is a joke.
Im pretty sure some progressive retards who studied psychology will try to prevent any meaningful criticism of pornography. Modern psychology is a joke.
>>279818
>>279819
Also a friendly reminder that the therapist you open up to about your weirdo problems is a literal normie who fucked around and did drugs during uni and he's secretly laughing at your weirdo virgin issues while keeping you on the leash with meaningless consulting and med prescribing.
>>279819
Also a friendly reminder that the therapist you open up to about your weirdo problems is a literal normie who fucked around and did drugs during uni and he's secretly laughing at your weirdo virgin issues while keeping you on the leash with meaningless consulting and med prescribing.