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How did we go from one gender not being able to vote to an utter gynocracy in just a single century?
How come as a man you have this giant list of tasks you need to complete just to be accepted as an adequate member of society, while if you are born a succubus, all you have to do is demand things from said society?
How come as a man you have this giant list of tasks you need to complete just to be accepted as an adequate member of society, while if you are born a succubus, all you have to do is demand things from said society?
>>285055
>just to be accepted as an adequate member of society
That really sucks, or it would if I was a failed normalfag crab who browses 4tard
>just to be accepted as an adequate member of society
That really sucks, or it would if I was a failed normalfag crab who browses 4tard
>>285057
Even in a professional (workplace) context you get a lot of flak for being a slob as a guy. But for succubi it's perfectly ok and they deserve 'body positivity'.
I don't like trannies and do not wish to become one.
I just hate living in such an inequal world, where succubi are allowed to be themselves, but men have to jump through hoops to be 'acceptable'.
Even in a professional (workplace) context you get a lot of flak for being a slob as a guy. But for succubi it's perfectly ok and they deserve 'body positivity'.
I don't like trannies and do not wish to become one.
I just hate living in such an inequal world, where succubi are allowed to be themselves, but men have to jump through hoops to be 'acceptable'.
>>285061
just don't be acceptable. there is no way to gain happiness if you're not a lucky normalfag, there's no point in breaking ten sweats to become a failed normalfaggot.
just don't be acceptable. there is no way to gain happiness if you're not a lucky normalfag, there's no point in breaking ten sweats to become a failed normalfaggot.
the idea of what a man has to do and be like has almost always been like that, even back in the day
Men simply know/accept this is what it meant to be like and just do it and always have
when succubi were allowed into more positions of influence they did not do this or accept it, they subverted it
that's why it happened so quickly, every chance they get to change something they do it , or insert more succubi into influential positions
like taking over HR departments to have near total control of a companies hiring practices
Men simply know/accept this is what it meant to be like and just do it and always have
when succubi were allowed into more positions of influence they did not do this or accept it, they subverted it
that's why it happened so quickly, every chance they get to change something they do it , or insert more succubi into influential positions
like taking over HR departments to have near total control of a companies hiring practices
>>285055
succubi are more important than men apparently, they can give birth. And if succubi don't want to give birth or give birth to a muscular tall genetic man, then humanity will fail and be dysgenic as fuck. Sorry bud if you're an ugly male its pretty much over
succubi are more important than men apparently, they can give birth. And if succubi don't want to give birth or give birth to a muscular tall genetic man, then humanity will fail and be dysgenic as fuck. Sorry bud if you're an ugly male its pretty much over
Do you have anything to back up these claims? I have the impression that people on imageboards create these false narratives that just become accepted as a truth and then all the discussions are based on falsehoods. Like people will take a twitter screenshot from someone with like 10 likes saying something stupid and see it as proof for the decline of society.
>>285557
>I have the impression that people on imageboards create these false narratives that just become accepted as a truth and then all the discussions are based on falsehoods.
You are correct. If you read a generalization, then bullshit is going to follow every time
>I have the impression that people on imageboards create these false narratives that just become accepted as a truth and then all the discussions are based on falsehoods.
You are correct. If you read a generalization, then bullshit is going to follow every time
>>285563
I don't think you know what a generalization is. You can't generalize the behavior of the sun because there is literally only one sun. Generalization doesn't exist when there is not a group to generalize.
Some generalizations are useful, but the ones spread on imageboards are the delusional ones created from fear or hatred.
I don't think you know what a generalization is. You can't generalize the behavior of the sun because there is literally only one sun. Generalization doesn't exist when there is not a group to generalize.
Some generalizations are useful, but the ones spread on imageboards are the delusional ones created from fear or hatred.
>>285569
> You can't generalize the behavior of the sun because there is literally only one sun.
But there's more than one day. Who's to say tomorrow will be like today? Can I be sure that the sun will rise tomorrow? I can only act on my experience that says it rises every day.
>but the ones spread on imageboards are the delusional ones created from fear or hatred.
Oh look, you're generalizing. Is everything on an imageboard borne from fear and hatred?
I don't want to sit and argue semantics with you, cause you seem like a reasonable person who just doesn't buy into OPs pity party which I can respect. But don't dismiss his view as simply irrational or made up. Do we live in a gynocracy? No, but we certainly live in a weird and fucked up time where men and succubi are expected to do x or y, yet everyone says men and succubi are the same and that there really are no men or succubi and it's all just in our heads.
> You can't generalize the behavior of the sun because there is literally only one sun.
But there's more than one day. Who's to say tomorrow will be like today? Can I be sure that the sun will rise tomorrow? I can only act on my experience that says it rises every day.
>but the ones spread on imageboards are the delusional ones created from fear or hatred.
Oh look, you're generalizing. Is everything on an imageboard borne from fear and hatred?
I don't want to sit and argue semantics with you, cause you seem like a reasonable person who just doesn't buy into OPs pity party which I can respect. But don't dismiss his view as simply irrational or made up. Do we live in a gynocracy? No, but we certainly live in a weird and fucked up time where men and succubi are expected to do x or y, yet everyone says men and succubi are the same and that there really are no men or succubi and it's all just in our heads.
>>285571
Yeah, it really is semantics, but my point is to be careful when it comes to generalizations like this. Who says man has to do x? Who says succubi have to do y? This isn't rhetorical, quite literally who said these things? To be more specific, we can use OP's post. He said that men "have giant list of tasks you need to complete just to be accepted as an adequate member of society." Where does that come from? Who is the person that said that? The media? What media? What was the purpose of this media? OP then attaches a post from 4chan that mimics these feeligns yet the post doesn't even name the self-help books. They couldn't even exist for all we know. What was that guy's motivation to post that anyway? Just to stir up some shit for replies? Why does OP even care about this shit? How are these thoughts affecting him?
Accepting generalizations like this as a truth is a dangerous thing because it can make you think that your beliefs are fact. You have to take the time to question your beliefs, espeically if your beliefs keep you in a negative space and prevent you from growing as a person.
Yeah, it really is semantics, but my point is to be careful when it comes to generalizations like this. Who says man has to do x? Who says succubi have to do y? This isn't rhetorical, quite literally who said these things? To be more specific, we can use OP's post. He said that men "have giant list of tasks you need to complete just to be accepted as an adequate member of society." Where does that come from? Who is the person that said that? The media? What media? What was the purpose of this media? OP then attaches a post from 4chan that mimics these feeligns yet the post doesn't even name the self-help books. They couldn't even exist for all we know. What was that guy's motivation to post that anyway? Just to stir up some shit for replies? Why does OP even care about this shit? How are these thoughts affecting him?
Accepting generalizations like this as a truth is a dangerous thing because it can make you think that your beliefs are fact. You have to take the time to question your beliefs, espeically if your beliefs keep you in a negative space and prevent you from growing as a person.
>>285580
> Who says man has to do x? Who says succubi have to do y? This isn't rhetorical, quite literally who said these things?
My own family for one. Admittedly that's confirmation bias, but any time we are going to say something about society it by definition will be a sweeping generalization.
> Who says man has to do x? Who says succubi have to do y? This isn't rhetorical, quite literally who said these things?
My own family for one. Admittedly that's confirmation bias, but any time we are going to say something about society it by definition will be a sweeping generalization.
>>285580
>Who says man has to do x?
literally every mentor i've had starting with kindergarten and ending with university (yes, lecturers only spend 60% of their time actually giving the lecture).
>Who says succubi have to do y?
literally almost nobody i know of. all of them usually say that succubi "deserve". there is a small bunch of adequate people that i'm familiar with that have different opinion on this topic, but it doesn't look like it is of any significance, considering what the majority thinks.
>Who says man has to do x?
literally every mentor i've had starting with kindergarten and ending with university (yes, lecturers only spend 60% of their time actually giving the lecture).
>Who says succubi have to do y?
literally almost nobody i know of. all of them usually say that succubi "deserve". there is a small bunch of adequate people that i'm familiar with that have different opinion on this topic, but it doesn't look like it is of any significance, considering what the majority thinks.
Not only do you have a never end lists of pre-requisites but the goal post is perpetually moved. Then when you give up you're ridiculed.
>>285557
I mean you have to be blind or plain stupid to not see how easy they have it compare to men. but as a little experiment you can try home to prove my point. just make a male and female resume with the same education and experience and start applyng for different jobs, the results may surprise you. you could also do it for dating with tinder.
I mean you have to be blind or plain stupid to not see how easy they have it compare to men. but as a little experiment you can try home to prove my point. just make a male and female resume with the same education and experience and start applyng for different jobs, the results may surprise you. you could also do it for dating with tinder.
>>285055
You know this always surprises me, especially with regards to the United States. How does a country founded by puritans succumb to degeneracy, whoredom, pre-marital sex, and faggotry?
And my country is becoming degenerate too because of jeets learning English, and Anglo-Saxon media pouring in at an extreme rate. Not that it (politics) matters to me at this point.
You know this always surprises me, especially with regards to the United States. How does a country founded by puritans succumb to degeneracy, whoredom, pre-marital sex, and faggotry?
And my country is becoming degenerate too because of jeets learning English, and Anglo-Saxon media pouring in at an extreme rate. Not that it (politics) matters to me at this point.
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>>285055
>"Gym is the best therapy"
>go to the gym
>hate every second of it and hate myself the whole time
Yeah, the gym is GREAT therapy, really fixes your mental illness dude
>"Gym is the best therapy"
>go to the gym
>hate every second of it and hate myself the whole time
Yeah, the gym is GREAT therapy, really fixes your mental illness dude
>>285979
Exercising does suck and is boring, and the meaning people extract from it is the goal of their bodies changing and becoming stronger. If after 5 weeks, 3 days, a week, you still find it bullshit then quit.>>285979
Exercising does suck and is boring, and the meaning people extract from it is the goal of their bodies changing and becoming stronger. If after 5 weeks, 3 days, a week, you still find it bullshit then quit.>>285979
>>285998
exercising makes me feel like a God and releases a lot of dopamine which lasts me for the rest of the day, right after I feel hungry and the food tastes better, I also get better sleep and feel refreshed thanks to it
You really aren't trying hard enough, you don't even need to go to the gym. just train at home.
exercising makes me feel like a God and releases a lot of dopamine which lasts me for the rest of the day, right after I feel hungry and the food tastes better, I also get better sleep and feel refreshed thanks to it
You really aren't trying hard enough, you don't even need to go to the gym. just train at home.
>>286001
that furtard is a known sexhaver namefag who even had gay boyfriends and still comes here which is quite funny. I don't know why the mods dont' ban him.
that furtard is a known sexhaver namefag who even had gay boyfriends and still comes here which is quite funny. I don't know why the mods dont' ban him.
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>>285979
Not to mention being tired thus tense afterwards. Maybe it's good for some college kids. This might actually be the origin of this myth, since our society seem to be so focused on youth and vitality, it ends up applying whatever the fuck a 20 year old could do intensively to an old decrepit man
Not to mention being tired thus tense afterwards. Maybe it's good for some college kids. This might actually be the origin of this myth, since our society seem to be so focused on youth and vitality, it ends up applying whatever the fuck a 20 year old could do intensively to an old decrepit man
>>286017
>he gets tired after exercise
>he doesn't get more energetic and happy
you might not be healthy at all or you're probably just starting. The reason why people work out is because of real benefits such as uplifted mood, better metabolism, stronger bodies, prevents cognitive decline, etc.
>he gets tired after exercise
>he doesn't get more energetic and happy
you might not be healthy at all or you're probably just starting. The reason why people work out is because of real benefits such as uplifted mood, better metabolism, stronger bodies, prevents cognitive decline, etc.
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I will never go to the gym in my life. Fuck that. Thank god I'm naturally skinny and not a fatass.
>>286047
Everybody is naturally skinny. You shouldn't pat yourself on the back for abstaining from dumping poison down your throat either.
Everybody is naturally skinny. You shouldn't pat yourself on the back for abstaining from dumping poison down your throat either.
>>286049
I go to the gym and am not fat, but due to my shitty genetics I can't build much muscle at all so even after all these years it's futile.
I even got a fair dose of testosterone injections prescribed by the doctor and it still doesn't help.
I go to the gym and am not fat, but due to my shitty genetics I can't build much muscle at all so even after all these years it's futile.
I even got a fair dose of testosterone injections prescribed by the doctor and it still doesn't help.
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>>286053
being obese or skinny can be signs of being unhealthy. Same with having muscles. It all depends. You might still have lots of health issues despite being skinny and an actual overweight person might be healthier than you.
being obese or skinny can be signs of being unhealthy. Same with having muscles. It all depends. You might still have lots of health issues despite being skinny and an actual overweight person might be healthier than you.
>>286054
> due to my shitty genetics I can't build much muscle
Genetics have fuck all to do with building muscle. Stop looking for a boogeyman beyond reach to point the blame to for your own unwillingness to exert yourself fully and then recover with proper diet and sleep.
> due to my shitty genetics I can't build much muscle
Genetics have fuck all to do with building muscle. Stop looking for a boogeyman beyond reach to point the blame to for your own unwillingness to exert yourself fully and then recover with proper diet and sleep.
>>286048
obviously false. plenty of fat people go to lose weight. dont know what youre getting at, probably because im autistic
>>286052
>>286047
I used to think this. Only in my 30s did i realise i never ate enough. I started eating a lot more meat, avoiding grains, and suddenly i put on weight and look a lot better. I think throughout all the time i lived with my family i was basically malnourished because my mother didnt feed anyone enough. Everyone in the family seemed underweight for the same reason so it just seemed like genetics.
>>286054
Possible. But being overweight is awful for health, regardless
obviously false. plenty of fat people go to lose weight. dont know what youre getting at, probably because im autistic
>>286052
>>286047
I used to think this. Only in my 30s did i realise i never ate enough. I started eating a lot more meat, avoiding grains, and suddenly i put on weight and look a lot better. I think throughout all the time i lived with my family i was basically malnourished because my mother didnt feed anyone enough. Everyone in the family seemed underweight for the same reason so it just seemed like genetics.
>>286054
Possible. But being overweight is awful for health, regardless
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>>286054
>being obese or skinny can be signs of being unhealthy.
They ARE signs of making unhealthy choices which leads to an unhealthy body
>Same with having muscles
Having muscles is not unhealthy at all, holy smokes
>being obese or skinny can be signs of being unhealthy.
They ARE signs of making unhealthy choices which leads to an unhealthy body
>Same with having muscles
Having muscles is not unhealthy at all, holy smokes
>>286087
having muscles is not indication of healthiness in the context of a gym
theres steroid use which can prove fatal and plenty of side effects from it.
having muscles is not indication of healthiness in the context of a gym
theres steroid use which can prove fatal and plenty of side effects from it.
>>286052
It really is bewildering how after months at the gym, I'm only now approaching the average bench press for an adult male.
Speaking of which, can you guys rate my routine?
10 x 3 40kg Bench press
10 x 3 30kg incline press
12 x 3 push ups
10 x 3 lat pull downs (48 something, idk if they're kg or pounds)
12 x 3 rows at 66 pounds or kg
10 x 3 20kg one armed rows
10 x 3 12.5kg Arnold press
I had leg presses and squats in there too but had to slow down on those after I hurt my knee.
It really is bewildering how after months at the gym, I'm only now approaching the average bench press for an adult male.
Speaking of which, can you guys rate my routine?
10 x 3 40kg Bench press
10 x 3 30kg incline press
12 x 3 push ups
10 x 3 lat pull downs (48 something, idk if they're kg or pounds)
12 x 3 rows at 66 pounds or kg
10 x 3 20kg one armed rows
10 x 3 12.5kg Arnold press
I had leg presses and squats in there too but had to slow down on those after I hurt my knee.
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>>286090
>I'm only now approaching the average bench press for an adult male.
The average adult male spent hours each day running around, riding bikes, swimming, tackling, and fighting for years during the time that his body was growing and adapting most efficiently. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that when these kids were running and exerting themselves, you were immersed in some book, or glued to the family computer trying to complete Underground Pass with Dragon Dagger [P+] and an inventory full of swordfish. So the average male likely has years more physical development and mental fortitude for exertion than you. It would suffice that they would be quicker to increase their weight cap. So it's not that you're behind genetically or chemically or something like that, you just have a few years of catching up. The important thing is that you are indeed catching up. There's nothing quite as inspirational as learning to fly with broken wings, undoing the negative effects of past poor choices, and then getting tangible results. If you're inclined to competition, then some sugar in your bitter coffee is the fact that max weight and overall physical capacity in general is one of the most susceptible to being overblown by those self-reporting. I've told online analytics counters that I can bench 500kg from the start when I could only really bench about 450kg after a couple days, just to mess with them.
Your routine seems to be some shoulders and some back. What are you training for? Tug-o-war? Dogwalking career??? You're not just trying to develop the silhouette of someone who lifts without actually filling in your most important muscles, are you Wiz?? You're doing good for your triceps but where are the bicep and wrist curls? The sit-ups and crunches? The dumbell shrugs? What equipment do you have access to? If you have a bench and dumbells, you should incorporate chest flys to get more pectoral range than is offered by the incline press. The leverage of a fully extended arm holding a weight during a lateral raise stretches the tendons in a way the presses don't.
>>12 x 3 rows at 66 pounds or kg
>>10 x 3 20kg one armed rows
Your rowing capacity in particular is good. If the first is a seated barbell row, then these should be in reverse order so the lesser weight per arm comes next. The quickest way to hypertrophy is to induce emergency blood redirection in to your muscle with a very heavy weight. Find the weight you can only do one rep of and then lighten it until you can do 5 reps. Shake and stretch your shoulders up a bit with no weight. Then do your usual max comfortable weight to your rep max, and then cut that weight in half and do the same amount of reps or to failure. At this point your muscles should be burning. The idea is that the superheavy reps shock your muscle in to filling with blood. This added pressure and power puts more strain on the fibers so they tear more in your usual weight. The followup with the lighter weights is like pumping nutrient-rich blood through a primer hose directly to your arms, and it also strains the newer fibers around the tendon and bone anchor points or something, I don't know. The important thing is that it burns like hell and then your next set might even require more reps to get this burn. Just get that 150 seconds of recovery in. It releases blood from the spleen which is always healthy, and part of the reason why those who dive for a living can have so much stamina and "emergency strength" in the event of an adrenaline release. if your bones start to hurt at all, then that's good keep going they'll heal back stronger.
For example, try a dumbell curl in:
>30lb x5
>15lb x 15
>10lb x 15/fail
In one set with no breaks between, the end of the 10lb cycle should be painful, but the good kind of painful. Do 3 sets of these and if you didn't reach failure before hitting 15 reps on the previous 10lb cycle, curl to failure now. It hurts so good. I'm a bigger guy and Ive been lifting on and off for 2 years now and I can curl in pounds
>50 x 5
>35 x 17
>20 x 17
>10 x 15
When I can do 20 reps of the 35 and 20 cycles, I will try to curl 60lb first then followup with 45, 35, 20, 10. Don't obsess over decimals, grams, or the weight of the little flower looking thing that keeps the plates on the bar. Just round up, load up, and lift up.
>I had leg presses and squats in there too but had to slow down on those after I hurt my knee.
The knees and hips are the slowest to adapt to new muscular strength. It's why old people always fall down and can't get up lmao. A lot of core abdominal exercises rely on stretching the knees all around, so maybe give them a try, even if it's on the bedroom floor. You should also take a hundred backwards steps (it's an old Wehrmacht trick to relieve inflammation in the knees.)
>>286089
>having muscles is not indication of healthiness in the context of a gym
It's a clear indication that the man's vascular system, regenerative capacity, and metabolism is working well. And yeah, there are guys who are muscular who are at the gym some days for reasons besides getting yuge, no shit. Gyms in their modern form serve primarily as recovery centers for those who have been injured so it's safe to assume most of the patrons you see are there because of a health issue.
>theres steroid use which can prove fatal and plenty of side effects from it.
So you mean not healthy in the sense of like mental health or drug addiction or something? Yes, go to the Kettlebell Club at 14:30 on a Wednesday and you'll find a guy who's mental clarity and threat responses have been warped by anabolic abuse. His synthetic hormones might have even made his testicles smaller for a while, oh no! And then you find guys like >>286052 who's taking steroids prescribed by a doctor as a solution to his poor health.
Steroids do what testosterone does, and testosterone is good in its naturally delivered moderate doses. There are no shortcuts to an enhanced physique, but many people think steroids are going to offer a second puberty when in reality it just demands more physical work and nutrition to keep up with their recovery effects. More effort, more frequently, but when someone with discipline meets the demands of their steroid of choice and follows up with the proper supplementations, they'll end up bigger and healthier. It's when they're used wrong by people who have no business lifting a plate that steroids become dangerous.
I won't reply if your reply is rude.
>I'm only now approaching the average bench press for an adult male.
The average adult male spent hours each day running around, riding bikes, swimming, tackling, and fighting for years during the time that his body was growing and adapting most efficiently. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that when these kids were running and exerting themselves, you were immersed in some book, or glued to the family computer trying to complete Underground Pass with Dragon Dagger [P+] and an inventory full of swordfish. So the average male likely has years more physical development and mental fortitude for exertion than you. It would suffice that they would be quicker to increase their weight cap. So it's not that you're behind genetically or chemically or something like that, you just have a few years of catching up. The important thing is that you are indeed catching up. There's nothing quite as inspirational as learning to fly with broken wings, undoing the negative effects of past poor choices, and then getting tangible results. If you're inclined to competition, then some sugar in your bitter coffee is the fact that max weight and overall physical capacity in general is one of the most susceptible to being overblown by those self-reporting. I've told online analytics counters that I can bench 500kg from the start when I could only really bench about 450kg after a couple days, just to mess with them.
Your routine seems to be some shoulders and some back. What are you training for? Tug-o-war? Dogwalking career??? You're not just trying to develop the silhouette of someone who lifts without actually filling in your most important muscles, are you Wiz?? You're doing good for your triceps but where are the bicep and wrist curls? The sit-ups and crunches? The dumbell shrugs? What equipment do you have access to? If you have a bench and dumbells, you should incorporate chest flys to get more pectoral range than is offered by the incline press. The leverage of a fully extended arm holding a weight during a lateral raise stretches the tendons in a way the presses don't.
>>12 x 3 rows at 66 pounds or kg
>>10 x 3 20kg one armed rows
Your rowing capacity in particular is good. If the first is a seated barbell row, then these should be in reverse order so the lesser weight per arm comes next. The quickest way to hypertrophy is to induce emergency blood redirection in to your muscle with a very heavy weight. Find the weight you can only do one rep of and then lighten it until you can do 5 reps. Shake and stretch your shoulders up a bit with no weight. Then do your usual max comfortable weight to your rep max, and then cut that weight in half and do the same amount of reps or to failure. At this point your muscles should be burning. The idea is that the superheavy reps shock your muscle in to filling with blood. This added pressure and power puts more strain on the fibers so they tear more in your usual weight. The followup with the lighter weights is like pumping nutrient-rich blood through a primer hose directly to your arms, and it also strains the newer fibers around the tendon and bone anchor points or something, I don't know. The important thing is that it burns like hell and then your next set might even require more reps to get this burn. Just get that 150 seconds of recovery in. It releases blood from the spleen which is always healthy, and part of the reason why those who dive for a living can have so much stamina and "emergency strength" in the event of an adrenaline release. if your bones start to hurt at all, then that's good keep going they'll heal back stronger.
For example, try a dumbell curl in:
>30lb x5
>15lb x 15
>10lb x 15/fail
In one set with no breaks between, the end of the 10lb cycle should be painful, but the good kind of painful. Do 3 sets of these and if you didn't reach failure before hitting 15 reps on the previous 10lb cycle, curl to failure now. It hurts so good. I'm a bigger guy and Ive been lifting on and off for 2 years now and I can curl in pounds
>50 x 5
>35 x 17
>20 x 17
>10 x 15
When I can do 20 reps of the 35 and 20 cycles, I will try to curl 60lb first then followup with 45, 35, 20, 10. Don't obsess over decimals, grams, or the weight of the little flower looking thing that keeps the plates on the bar. Just round up, load up, and lift up.
>I had leg presses and squats in there too but had to slow down on those after I hurt my knee.
The knees and hips are the slowest to adapt to new muscular strength. It's why old people always fall down and can't get up lmao. A lot of core abdominal exercises rely on stretching the knees all around, so maybe give them a try, even if it's on the bedroom floor. You should also take a hundred backwards steps (it's an old Wehrmacht trick to relieve inflammation in the knees.)
>>286089
>having muscles is not indication of healthiness in the context of a gym
It's a clear indication that the man's vascular system, regenerative capacity, and metabolism is working well. And yeah, there are guys who are muscular who are at the gym some days for reasons besides getting yuge, no shit. Gyms in their modern form serve primarily as recovery centers for those who have been injured so it's safe to assume most of the patrons you see are there because of a health issue.
>theres steroid use which can prove fatal and plenty of side effects from it.
So you mean not healthy in the sense of like mental health or drug addiction or something? Yes, go to the Kettlebell Club at 14:30 on a Wednesday and you'll find a guy who's mental clarity and threat responses have been warped by anabolic abuse. His synthetic hormones might have even made his testicles smaller for a while, oh no! And then you find guys like >>286052 who's taking steroids prescribed by a doctor as a solution to his poor health.
Steroids do what testosterone does, and testosterone is good in its naturally delivered moderate doses. There are no shortcuts to an enhanced physique, but many people think steroids are going to offer a second puberty when in reality it just demands more physical work and nutrition to keep up with their recovery effects. More effort, more frequently, but when someone with discipline meets the demands of their steroid of choice and follows up with the proper supplementations, they'll end up bigger and healthier. It's when they're used wrong by people who have no business lifting a plate that steroids become dangerous.
I won't reply if your reply is rude.
>>285526
People who use words like bud, buddy, kid, Lil this, Lil that deserve to be hanged from shit stained wall.
People who use words like bud, buddy, kid, Lil this, Lil that deserve to be hanged from shit stained wall.
>>286054
>Same with having muscles
You are coping, talking out of your ass or took those millenial liberal "journalists" discouraging exercise seriously.
>Same with having muscles
You are coping, talking out of your ass or took those millenial liberal "journalists" discouraging exercise seriously.
>>286098
I have done manual labor since I was 16 and I am still as skinny as I was, if not more so. Yes I have more subtle muscle mass and a larger upper body, but I couldn't bench more than 40kg.
Humans are long distance runners and scavengers. That's the environment they're adapted to. Not these big, hulking superheroes whey protein has sold you. Big and hulking considered masculine is fatty cope and men have always been lean and thin since time began.
Steroids increase how much muscle tissue you can put on in a lifetime and morphs your body, so it is advantageous in taking test if you have a lithe frame.
I have done manual labor since I was 16 and I am still as skinny as I was, if not more so. Yes I have more subtle muscle mass and a larger upper body, but I couldn't bench more than 40kg.
Humans are long distance runners and scavengers. That's the environment they're adapted to. Not these big, hulking superheroes whey protein has sold you. Big and hulking considered masculine is fatty cope and men have always been lean and thin since time began.
Steroids increase how much muscle tissue you can put on in a lifetime and morphs your body, so it is advantageous in taking test if you have a lithe frame.
>>286705
I could probably do 40kg now that I think about it, just no more than 70kg which is less than the 100kg average
I could probably do 40kg now that I think about it, just no more than 70kg which is less than the 100kg average
>>286705
this is not entirely correct. there are genes of really big men that are big just because they were big ever since their big father saw them get out of their (possibly big, not necessarily tho) mother. so some men are just there to dominate you no matter how much you cope with this.
this is not entirely correct. there are genes of really big men that are big just because they were big ever since their big father saw them get out of their (possibly big, not necessarily tho) mother. so some men are just there to dominate you no matter how much you cope with this.
>>286705
>Humans are long distance runners
Something high overall muscle mass benefits. The enhanced vascular performance offered by any additional muscle mass is going to directly benefit longterm endurance. Heavier bodies carry more momentum too. And twitch muscle fiber prioritization are a genetic trait so there's obviously some evolutinary decision making that prioritized a diversified physical capability disposition.
>scavengers
Also benefited proportionally by general strength.
>Not these big, hulking superheroes whey protein has sold you
Whey is marketed to everyone from herculean bodybuilders to pregnant succubi. Protein is good for everyone, fit males just utilize more of it.
>men have always been lean and thin since time began.
Ew what the fuck? keep your twink fetish off this site. If you believe anything you wrote you really need to get some tests done.
You have proven in so few words that you're unqualified to discuss men's health and fitness.
>Humans are long distance runners
Something high overall muscle mass benefits. The enhanced vascular performance offered by any additional muscle mass is going to directly benefit longterm endurance. Heavier bodies carry more momentum too. And twitch muscle fiber prioritization are a genetic trait so there's obviously some evolutinary decision making that prioritized a diversified physical capability disposition.
>scavengers
Also benefited proportionally by general strength.
>Not these big, hulking superheroes whey protein has sold you
Whey is marketed to everyone from herculean bodybuilders to pregnant succubi. Protein is good for everyone, fit males just utilize more of it.
>men have always been lean and thin since time began.
Ew what the fuck? keep your twink fetish off this site. If you believe anything you wrote you really need to get some tests done.
You have proven in so few words that you're unqualified to discuss men's health and fitness.
>>286708
not that wiz but have been thin forever. by the end of high school was the thinnest and the weakest despite trying hard. it doesn't matter how much i exercise my fucked genetics won't allow me to be able to defend myself. the only option is to take protein but fuck this bullshit i don't want to
not that wiz but have been thin forever. by the end of high school was the thinnest and the weakest despite trying hard. it doesn't matter how much i exercise my fucked genetics won't allow me to be able to defend myself. the only option is to take protein but fuck this bullshit i don't want to
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>>286712
i am not supposed to take meds to cheat my body into surpassing genetically set limits, nigger
i am not supposed to take meds to cheat my body into surpassing genetically set limits, nigger
>>286710
>the only option is to take protein
The whey variety of which is cheap, tasty, available in any supermarket or supplement store, and has a long shelf life. Eggs are also a a cheap and efficient way to meet your daily maximum protein uptake. Milk and Meat proteins are good for everyone for their roles in maintaining organ function throughout the entire body.
But protein isn't gong to make you grow stronger unless your body is using it to repair damage. You need to be reaching hypertrophy to tear your muscle fibres before your body starts using proteins to build the muscles back stronger. That's something that can be done by anyone, and it really should be easier the less attuned to exercise you are. Pick up a 5lb dumbell and get lifting. If you run out of energy to life before your muscles get noticeably sore, then you'll also need electrolytes and a proper water to salt ratio, which a regular balanced diet should provide.
If red meat isn't a staple of your diet, you'll need to supplement creatine, which is also cheap and really tasty. If proteins are the building blocks of new muscle fibres, creatine is the mortar that binds them together.
>buttfuck this bullshit i don't want to
Yes you do, and it is healthy to want to. Don't concede so easily.
>the only option is to take protein
The whey variety of which is cheap, tasty, available in any supermarket or supplement store, and has a long shelf life. Eggs are also a a cheap and efficient way to meet your daily maximum protein uptake. Milk and Meat proteins are good for everyone for their roles in maintaining organ function throughout the entire body.
But protein isn't gong to make you grow stronger unless your body is using it to repair damage. You need to be reaching hypertrophy to tear your muscle fibres before your body starts using proteins to build the muscles back stronger. That's something that can be done by anyone, and it really should be easier the less attuned to exercise you are. Pick up a 5lb dumbell and get lifting. If you run out of energy to life before your muscles get noticeably sore, then you'll also need electrolytes and a proper water to salt ratio, which a regular balanced diet should provide.
If red meat isn't a staple of your diet, you'll need to supplement creatine, which is also cheap and really tasty. If proteins are the building blocks of new muscle fibres, creatine is the mortar that binds them together.
>buttfuck this bullshit i don't want to
Yes you do, and it is healthy to want to. Don't concede so easily.
>>286713
>i am not supposed to
Turn off your computer then.
Substances are tools.
Computer is a tool.
Same exact thing.
>i am not supposed to
Turn off your computer then.
Substances are tools.
Computer is a tool.
Same exact thing.
>>286782
Yes. The world is entirely material and tools are a way to extend your power over the material.
The mind is a weak calculator filled with delusion.
Yes. The world is entirely material and tools are a way to extend your power over the material.
The mind is a weak calculator filled with delusion.