I thought working in a warehouse would be better than working retail but I was wrong, it's all shit. Retail is hundreds of small painful interactions with people that kills you inside to deal with while constantly hoping, praying that nothing goes wrong; (it always does) you're basically a verbal punching bag and therapist with added rules and responsibilities and it doesn't pay well. Warehousing is having to deal with functionally retarded giga-normies for extremely long periods of time while being worked like a dog and being constantly berated for any and all imagined delays including sitting down for a few mins or taking a piss. Almost all jobs have that underlying fear that something can (and will) go terribly wrong and you're responsible for both the solution and the problem that occurred; it's similar to the existential dread you feel late at night knowing you're wasting your one shot at life and the loneliness and depression is slowly engulfing your body like a infectious, parasitic cancer slowly devouring your entire being until your health deteriorates enough that something kills you or you just commit suicide.
>>285541 I work warehouse and this is so true, no matter what I simply can't get used too it and i've been working for two years straight, it's just do depressing and demoralising. This is what I exist for? Just to move shit for 10 hours a night for 4 days? It's pointless and I only get 30 mins to relax myself and eat which half of the time is being taken away walking to my car or the breakroom. It's fucking bullshit, i'm a literal slave that gets paid peanuts. I wish I tryhard in HS and college to get a boring office shitjob instead.
>>285541 >>285542 I've had 5 wagie jobs only one of which was good (PC gaming cafe job).
godammit its been 8 months NEET and i need some money, just 500$ to support my fitness goals. So its back to the trenches with me. I have no car, my family doesn't want to help with jack shit and the only place hiring within a mile is some fast food place. I have no remorse abandoning a job, especially one thats part of a large franchise. this is gonna suck. bad. But i need it to jumpstart my life. I'm jealous of the priviledged saps who get money from the government or their parents. I'm also kind of pissed that i didn't do this earlier, fucking holding out for my dad to help fix my car and get my license. never gonna happen. I need to buy a new battery for it so its off to walk a mile to work at a fast food joint for a month or two.
>>285541 working retail or a grocery store IS a warehouse job + constant interactions with normgroids. i do think a warehouse job is slightly better. but not by a lot.
>>285542 > I wish I tryhard in HS and college to get a boring office shitjob instead. There is no correlation between those things for a wizard. You'd probably try hard, suffer, have debt then still be unable to get an office job or even more miserable there
I know it's /dep/, but does anyone have suggestions on how I can get out of manual labor hell? I think I'd rather work some menial IT or codemonkey job than destroy my body everyday. Mentally I don't think it could be any worse and the pay would be better. Posting for the first time because I'm drunk and really close to just killing myself.
>>285560 Get some entry level IT certs & start with helpdesk. It's way better to have some boring IT monkey job sitting in some office then breaking your back slaving away in manual labor jobs. You don't want to be one of those guys pushing 40 and still stuck doing menial physical labor. Your body is not a machine and will only take so much before it gives up.
>>285560 Apply for temp data entry work. This is assuming you live in a medium to large city. Anything smaller and you're fucked. But if you get it you'll spend 3 to 6 months listening to audiobooks and typing shit you see on a screen into a database on another screen. Make nice with the supervisor and they may hire you on or be a reference to another gig. Eventually you might land WFH or something where it's just you, headphones, and your computer screen.
I have a relatively decent job that pays above average but still I can’t stand it, the commute hours, the constant interactions, the feeling that you’re being robbed of both your precious time and labor and even the feeling that even if you’re being relatively well paid everything is so fucjing expensive that working seems like a massive scam because you won’t be able to afford a decent life anyway unless you somehow play the system and become a very high paid manager or something or you’re born rich already.
I don’t know know people can work for 40 years, ANY job, I really can’t understand, I’ve been doing this for 16 months and it’s taking a toll on my mental health already, I think you have to be some kind of desensitized slave to be able to endure this shot for decades, I know for sure that I can’t, even scavenging for food on the trash looks tempting after facing the fact that I will have to do this for the next 4 decades just to die afterwards.
>>285581 I hate how long 40 hours a week is, I work hard and rarely talk to my co-workers yet only an hour or two is passed busting my ass and doing 90% of the work. It's fucking bullshit how most of our time on earth is spent working for someone.
>>285595 Not only that but it's working for someone knowing full well they can just throw you out and not give a damn, or work your ass to the bone in some of the most retarded conditions like in the middle of a fucking winter storm.
I still remember when Spectrum store management wanted us to work during the severe winter storm my neck of the woods had years ago. Those succubi made the entire store quit. They can go fuck themselves for that.
Not much different from when I was a neet, tbh. It took a while for me to actually be okay with spending money, and when I do it is basically just for shit like a TV or computer stuff. I bought a house 4 years ago and it still isn't furnished. The only furniture I have is my bed, desk, dresser, TV + couch (for video games and movies), and a weight bench + squat rack.
>>285625 Not living in shit areas is the one advantage of having money honestly. I'd rather live in a tiny apartment in an up market area than a large house in a shithole.
All I want is a simple white-collar "email caste" job that pays decently, doesn't involve mathematics, and has minimal interaction with normgroids. My question is could this be achievable if I were to go back to community college and get an associates degree in something like business or is it just a pipe dream?
>>285646 Could you show an example job listing that you would want to apply for? In theory i think basically the same. But every single job listing i find includes "must love sucking normgroids dicks all day, you will work in a team constantly and must go to the office, you will do meetings constantly, you must already have x years of professional experience". I enjoy mathematics and have degrees, but there is nothing i can even see that is worth applying for, because nothing has low social interaction when it is an entry level position.
>>285649 Even with your degree and mathematics most of the jobs you find require social shit? I thought you guys just sit in corners with a computer in office and talk to fucking no one???
>>285646 You will have to compete with hordes of normgroids who have the same degree but with a higher GPA, extracurricular experience, internship experience, younger, more soft skills and most importantly not mentally ill.
>>285650 >>285651 This. Unfortunately a lot of schizos don't understand how demanding the office workspace is in 2023, and not only do you need a Master's degree from a reputable university, you need more experience than other applicants and more proof you can do the job.
Low IQ's think people just "sit in front of a computer and drink coffee" even when the job entails doing complex calculations or making sure dummies at a construction site don't kill themselves by making sure the concrete and materials are load bearing enough for 8 apartments, etc.
There are no 'make-believe' jobs where you just sit in an office doing nothing talking to nobody in 2023 because consultants have leaned out organizations with dogmas like Six Sigma.
You have to be extremely competent and be able to do the job of 2-3 of your predecessors or you wont be hired. You have to beat 700 other applicants to get that generic $4k a month office job.
Which gets us to the second point, i.e., why 86% of autists and almost all schizos are unemployed. I am autistic and unemployed, but I was employed at an office until I got fired for having anxiety due to the constant meetings and talking to coworkers.
A lot of young autists have completely unrealistic views on the world and are way too optimistic. I think it's a key reason in why so many autists kill themselves compared to the general population. They get their idealistic ideas from anime, read books, their oblivious boomer parents and think if they just work hard enough they'll land that cushy office job. It said so in the anime, even my mom said so!
But years pass by and they never get the job, and they may not even be hired for fast food due to how many desperate applications burger joints get as well in large cities. So all they do is rot away at home in front of a computer. I'm never going to kill myself due to the desperate job market out there because I know how it works and how shit life is for people who weren't born rich. I'm content even while living on benefits.
>>285650 I graduated with a masters degree over 6 years ago. I studied computer science and math. I got very good grades. I still have never got a job. I cant talk to people, so there is nothing i can do.
15+ years ago, IT was friendly to unsocial people and full of nerds. These days it is extremely social and corporate. It has been taken over by normalfags because it is highly paid. Companies used to hire the unsociable people because they had no choice. These days it is very competitive. The number of fresh computer science graduates is insane. Now, people in IT must work in absurdly social teams, like pair programming where you have a normalfag breathing down your neck constantly - so you couldnt even write a single line of code if you have anxiety like me.
Jobs with low social interaction do exist, but they are extremely rare and not advertised. I don't think there is any standard path toward finding one.
Building profitable projects on your own is possible if you're a third worlder, or just doing kids' university projects for money. But if you're in a high cost of living country, you have to be a very lucky top-tier developer to be able to afford to live as a solo developer.
The world is more fucked than we can comprehend, and it gets worse constantly.
>>285656 >A lot of young autists have completely unrealistic views on the world and are way too optimistic. I think it's a key reason in why so many autists kill themselves compared to the general population. They get their idealistic ideas from anime, read books, their oblivious boomer parents and think if they just work hard enough they'll land that cushy office job. It said so in the anime, even my mom said so!
Yea pretty much, it's actually ridiculous that there's so many shut-in autists out there who imagine just because they were booknerd study-hards in highschool/college, that they'll magically end up landing that CEO position after graduating. Uhh no, if you've spent your days watching fantasy anime cartoons & being a shut-in NEET with degraded social skills and doing nothing with your life post-graduation, NO internships, NO work-experience, you sure as hell are NOT getting any comfy work-from-home jobs.
Hell you won't even be considered for an entry-level office wagie job since the competition for those openings is insane now with tons of newly graduated normies scooping up those positions. Basically you're fucked, and they'll probably should consider themselves luck if they even manage to land a door-greeter Walmart job. I mean it sounds harsh, but that's honestly the reality. The longer you spend unemployed out of the workforce, the more difficult it will be to get back into it.
What about not office jobs? Say STEM degree and some tech work. Not office. I only know that most likely it's going to be paid like shit, but at least it's not suicide.
>>285672 what does that even mean? People are so fucking vague here. If there's any job that fits then fucking post it. You cant because it doesnt exist.
>>285671 I don't think there is any trick. You won't find out if a company follows has a shitty tech corporate culture until you start working there. I get paid well working as a software developer and I don't have to talk to anyone so I know these jobs exist. It wasn't a secret job or anything, just a job posting I found on my college's job search website.
>>285674 >maintaining vehicles, power grids, power stations. maybe some maintenance at a factory takes years of expensive post-secondary education, internships, and self-reasearch before you're even qualified to apply for such a job. Any job that puts the safety of the general public or a group of insured workers in your hands is going to demand absolute proof that you're a well-fitting cog in the machine
The fact that 1. My work's open today and 2. We're getting a lot of traffic confirms that normies have nothing better to do with their lives than harras us and waste our goddamn time.
>>285727 sometimes I feel like I'm on the opposite side of being pretty and cute. As soon as you walk in somewhere ugly people start socially attacking you every way they can thinking you are a threat.
>>285689 >hiphop if you were black this would be the point you would make him yell at the top of his lungs "black lives matter" in the most public way possible.
>>285727 Maybe get a fucking haircut, trim your beard, brush your teeth, and try talking to people instead of acting like a loner. They probably think you'll shoot up the place or something
>>285735 >>285739 I'm bald and I work with a fucking facemask on and I still get shat on for my ugly face. I'm also very talkative and approachable, but there's nothing you can do to compesate being ugly. Normies just come to bully you like sharks smelling blood on the water.
>>285741 Are you working with teenagers or something? From experience the adults I've worked with in similar dead end jobs were more preoccupied with their own problems, or could it be a form of banter? Working construction people would shit on each other all the time but we all knew it was just bantz
>>285742 Construction is mostly full of ugly lower class ogres so there isn't much lookism there towards an unkempt wizard.
Where it gets worse is the "professional" world where not only are you expected to take care of your clothes, but your skin/hair/face as well. And if you don't fit in, you get thrown out.
>>285744 Is not that I'm just ugly. I'm disgusting to look at. I have super oily skin, acne scars, a bad case of rosacea, seborrheic dermatitis… I lost the genetic lottery big time.
I find very disgusting how work and society in general forces people to compete in general, get better positions, better pay, more money, and then you have to buy stupid shit like expensive cars and houses.
You’re basically trapped in some race with no end, you have to be richer today and yesterday and keep going until you die.
Dropping out of society is entirely justified, this is a sick system.
I work in a warehouse and what I hate the most is that breaks don't feel like breaks at all. You have to spend 15 minutes listening to your low-IQ coworkers go on about nothing, just like during worktime and in the end, I actually feel more drained and have more of a headache than before.
>>285756 Yes but the human arms race feels even more artificial and idiotic, is not the same as animals competing for food or survival, humans compete for stupid shit like more money, better cars, better houses and all that shit that you can’t even enjoy, when we have more than enough wealth and technology to avoid working at all.
>>285755 australia? I work a warehouse job with 15min breaks too, i just keep to myself, at least it deals with refurbishing computers so there's some interest in the work and i don't feel braindead all the time.
>>285758 Nah, Europe. I'd like to have some peace and quiet during my breaks. Especially since I hate my coworkers. The way my breaks work now makes it feel like I'm just wasting my precious free time.
>>285755 It amazes me how people don't realize how utterly boring and mundane they are. They just keep on trying to talk to you about their inane dogshit and think we actually give a shit
>>285761 Telling them you don't "give a shit" is usually enough to make them cease talking to you about stuff. What's amazing is that you somehow managed to reach adulthood without learning the power of telling people that you don't care.
>>285762 Telling them that creates even more unnecessary tension, and could start rumours of you being an asshole and given the cliquey nature of jobs like that could result in you getting fires, given you're probably already seen as some weir loner
>>285492 Still doing the call center gig six years later. I wanna find some remote work but I'm too lazy to look beyond lists of websites that have remote work job postings.
The economy's gonna collapse within two years anyway so I figure I might as well just tread water until the nukes drop.
>>285876 There are still remote jobs, but most are hybrid at best, bosses realized that if you give people some freedom that may actually enjoy it and demand more and more until they don’t want to be slaves again, so obviously they took measures and curtailed that freedom to keep people in check, even companies like Amazon and Apple now require people to be in the office.
>>285492 >have to meet with the boss tomorrow and bring my work ID I think I'm gonna be fired truth be told, and you know what? I kind of hope I do. The absolute disrespect I've endured these months and the fact I don't get paid enough to move out, plus my hellishly long commute, I can't say I'll miss it I just wish they fired me on Friday or Wednesday so I wouldn't have to come in >>285689 GOD I feel the passive aggression and micromanaging in this guy's voice, he does this character so fucking good, down to the damn snapping and "Maybe you'll be more on top of things" is such a nosey coworker thing to say
This guy somehow NAILS corporate hell down to a fucking T
I just wanna escape, i even delved deep into the occult but alas there are only wageslaving broke ass sorcerers. Seriously, i've done it all. They all suck ass, no one can make you rich. To my shame i even danced with saturn archtypes and the asshole archons. Fuck you all, you pieces of shit. I hate wageslaving so much. Which baby do i have to eat to become rich?
>>285656 >There are no 'make-believe' jobs where you just sit in an office doing nothing talking to nobody in 2023
That’s my job. all I did today was hand a new employee a laptop and install an Authenticator app on his phone and then I hid in my office for 7 hours and 45 minutes
>>285668 >Hell you won't even be considered for an entry-level office wagie job since the competition for those openings is insane now with tons of newly graduated normies scooping up those positions I'm really feeling this now as a mega autist. Graduated with a CS degree this May and I've had about 13 interviews, three of which went into actual technical, coding territory – but I don't know anyone and I'm ugly on top of being very socially retarded so I just don't get shit. It feels so goddamn unfair, do I not get to live my life? Hell I'm even willing to normie larp but nobody's giving me the chance to learn how.
>>285581 Saw a plaque on this guys desk that said "40 years of service" to the same company. Guy has been at the same place for 40 years, pretty sure the samebuilding too.
>>285742 definitly if youre working in a warehouse no one cares what you look like. i've worked in one with all different minorities they were all preoccupied with their own lives. no one cares.
Wizzies you might be the only ones who can understand me. I am way too fucking ugly to have a job, I'm not kidding. I got bullied out of every job I had and even my bosses join in the bullying. Everytime I walk pass my coworkers they make barfing sounds or say mean shit out loud for me to hear. I'm way too ugly to work surrounded by normies. What type of job can I get where I have little to no contact with people? I have worked in warehouses, factories, construction, office work and security. It's been the same everywhere, except in security where I was mostly on my own sitting on nice booth for 8 hours, taking walks every hour or so. What other jobs apart from security can I do?
I'm actually starting to really crack for the first time, like I seriously have to wageslave for 60 years of my life? I seriously have to fucking do this??? And nothing will improve? Just more taxes to fund dumb fucking wars while our politicians and stupid celebrities live luxurious lives while us workers are bottom feeders? What the fuck is this shit, why haven't people cracked yet?
my short stint as a neet again may be coming to an end. I’m dead broke. this time I think I will just wear a mask everywhere I hate when norps see my face
>>286044 Thanks, I know. I'm never late to work and rarely take time off, so one day is ok. Plus, it's Thursday. No way I'm going to work. I'm gonna get a pint of vodka and chill.
Embittered succubus got 11 coworkers fired by ratting them out to management that they were sharing their passwords with each other to clock in on time. It pisses me off since now theres a fuckload more of work to do and that bitch probably will quit in a few months since she really doesnt meed the jobs since her husband supports her.
>>286061 I invoked its name once, but i wasn't serious. Doubt the Ruinous Powers are benevolent. I'm in the tunnels of Set for like 2 years (Qliphoth) and i'm at a place where i struggle to leave it all behind. It was exciting in the beginning, but the chaos mage in me grows tired and dillusioned. I think i'm in the final Sphere of the Qliphoth where you need to sacrifice yourself to merge with the primordial void (death) or become a black diamond god (ascension). Still want that money though, explains why i'm stuck :D.
And yes, it's weekend. fuck wageslaving. Cast Timestop.
Been a while since this thread got a nuke. Normalslave Wagefags or otherwise, anti-male sentiment is banned for under the handy General posting Guidelines
>>286083 shit like that happens. that filthy dumb whore thought only of herself and not of the real consequences her actions can have on others, like you, a poor wiz who has now to work more and be more stressed because of her retardation, as if being in wagie hell wasn't enough… what's even more funny is you posting that has literal feminist retards simping for her and congratulating her like this faggot outsider nigger >>286164 in an imageboard for male virgins where she will never read the simps' messages lmaoo
>>286210 >You should come into work on time and thank her >Succubus did nothing wrong and deserves a medal lol outsider faggot still spamming the same shit after 24 hours and getting mad at the mods for deleting his shit. The fact that you get mad at the mods for banning you and keep spamming the same shit over and over is a testament that the faggots who are against in cels and do the crab hunt are mentally ill outsiders. Just kill yourself.
Seriously, dude, kill yourself because you must either be a female or a some deranged simp to come here and make posts where you defend and praise females you don't even personally know.
I asked my team division leader if i could work for a day at home. The succubus in my team work like 2 days at home and guess what? I got denied. I'm gonna take sick days and i hope i get fired. Six years doing a goodjob means jackshit. Never a raise, nothing. I just cant take it mentally, plus my job became a living hell the past year so i'll be glad to be rid of it. Oh yeah they cant find more workers lol. After six months looking one quit after a day haha. So sayonara bitch, im out!!! Fuck YOU!!!! (btw check out Sopranos Skyrim vids, amazing)
Any wizards ever work a secretary/admin job? How'd you find it?
I get that it depends on the place but the succubus I spoke to told me there will be plenty of days where I get done with my work within a few hours. It's also supposedly just me, all alone, working by myself for most of the day (8 to 5). That sounds like heaven but I'm not sure.
At my age, there's too much to cover up, almost seems best to claim to be a Trust Fund Baby/ Bitcoin investor, rich dilettante, who wants to work to give back to the community rather than out of any need. Just hope they are desperate enough, and don't have any real standards.
I worked at dunkin fucking donuts. My closing shift was replaced by this fatass flamboyant wigger who goes by bulldog (it's as bad as that sounds), and my hours were randomly cut by more than half. This was one reason why I had "put in my two weeks". Today was my second to last day. I went to the bathroom just to play on my phone and I was reading an article about how Americans are loud. I came out and this jive-talking trump-haired retard made one of those jokes like "what are you doing in there, jerking off ha ha". I didn't respond, but I smiled slightly because I was afraid of making a face (anxiety symptom). This caused me to clock out and fuck off without saying anything. Now I'm not sure I'll obtain another shekel ever again.
Everyone keeps on telling me I'm smart enough to go to university and get a real job, but I can't even hold down a menial job, why would I risk debt to get a real job?
I just don't know what to think. I keep on hearing about how desk jobs are all the land of milk and honey where you get treated right, but I'm not sure. Relatives of mine seem exceptionally smug and brag about having them a lot. The bad points of shitty wagecuck jobs I do in part comes to how badly I get treated, so maybe it's the right move.
>>286573 >desk jobs are all the land of milk and honey where you get treated right, "treated right" can mean anything to anyone, and as a less socialable single male, what others consider a good treatment is probably not going to be very good for you at all. These jobs tend to require a constant social upkeep regiment in order to be sustained. You really can't just go in everyday and type up reports then clock out. It's a social environment full of those who are drawn towards such a place. You can be a happy, polite person who shows up on time and can crack chat about sportsball or whatever, hiding your power level well. But so long as there are people who can chat better, smile brighter, and fuck hard, your job's sustainability will be at risk.
Imagine a classroom of first year high school students who all get along alright despite some emotional and cultural diferences among them. Every week or so a new kid shows up and the whole class has to vote on if the kid is allowed to join the class or not. If he's voted in, then another vote is held for which kid gets replaced. Naturally, the kid most distant from the inner social circle's centre is going to be given the boot. This is how many office and desk jobs are, no matter how small the company. The people hiring you aren't looking for a prime employee with skills related to the job; they're looking for a friend first. They may hire you to replace an even less socially involved person in the office, but unless you go out of your way to be one of them, doing as they do and saying as they say in every facet of your time, you'll soon be voted out in favor of a new potential friend.
You got a Facebook loaded with photos and stories that prove you're a totally normal human bean? Got your instagroid full of Taylor Swift Spotifies? You got any really strong opinions about current_thing that just coincidentally happen to be the exact same opinions that the smiling blonde news anchor succubus has?
No?
Well this new hiree might, so make room, bucko. >Everyone keeps on telling me I'm smart enough to go to university and get a real job, 4 years in unibersidy :D >-$50,000 + loan interest. >+stress >+potential to fail >+no free time >+No guarentee of job >Smart Ppl Job starting wage: $17.50
0 years in university: >-$0. >Temp agency staring wage: $12.75 >+0.70 raise annually if held >If job is lost, just ask the agency for another
>>286574 I just get treated like shit working menial jobs. I got one and the guy yelled at me all day, I got another retail one and middle aged female managers kept on making deprecating comments and treating me like shit, I got a construction one and people were immature and constantly fucking with each other.
>>286575 that's a shit job for you, they gonna treat you like shit because know you can't leave and if you looks an easy target, they gonna focus on you. Hit the gym and do some boxing
Wiz reporting from my jobs christmas party. No one from my dept came, im surrounded by strangers and they dont even serve alcohol. Just sticking around to see if I win something in the Christmas raffles
I don't know if I wrote about this in a previous thread but I quit my store job to go back to a warehouse I worked for in the past. The store was a family bussiness and my boss there clearly didn't know how to deal with non-relatives working for him. He expected us to work overtime FOR FREE. I have never experienced something like that. When I complained, he started yelling at me. Warehouse work sucks too but at least I know what to expect and the employers know people really don't want to be there so they're not going to be too much of a pain in the ass like that.
I simply can't stand monetary\transaction based society anymore. Due to "good luck" I have my own house, but I need to sell it, get rid of it or whatever. Probably buy survival items, prepping and bushcraft kits. I will leave society for good, live alone for decades, and die alone. I cant be near a human or human invention anymore. this has gone too far, its destroying my very Qualia to be REQUIRED to have a given amount of money to do…anything, or something.
>>286599 I'll take that house of your hands. in exchange, i'll give you some of my melancholic appreciation for solitude and some extra willingness to endure the cold isolation of the wild (i kept the XP lamps for these skills from last years christmas event)
>Do casual work >get paired up with late middle aged single men >they both moan about how everyone else sucks, how young people today don't know shit, how this and that is bad >One screams at me and throws a massive tantrum, throwing equipment everywhere, I just look at him deadpan >Tell the boss I won't put up with it much longer, boss goes "yeah I know they're bad".
I just excused myself and walked home today when I got paired up with them again for a task. They get paid a wage, the wage goes in no matter what gets done, why the fuck do they care so much if so and so isn't as good or as productive as them?
It's so common for divorced, broken middle aged men to just be insecure and ranting about everything. It's fucking annoying.
>Go on my break >notice pizza box in the middle of the break room table >eat a couple slices and go about my day >couple days later my boss approaches me saying one of coworkers is mad about me eating the pizza >tries to guilt trip me by saying I owe them a pizza >as I'm ready to clock out I smell that they just got delivered pizza in the break room I pray on the downfall of that man
>>286709 If you eat other people's food, it's only common courtesy to bring some food too occasionally.
Have you ever brought a pizza or box of donuts for everyone? Normies can be petty about "keeping score" but I wouldn't like it either if someone was mooching off of everyone and never bothered to contribute.
Sounds like your boss felt embarrassed for you and ordered a new pizza for everyone.
>>286714 i agree with this. i hate it utterly when somebody touches MY food. really people don't do it please. and if do give something EQUALLY VALUABLE in return. just imagine somebody raiding your freezer and taking the most precious thing from there. wouldn't you be pissed off
>>286709 Why you ate from a pizza that wasn't yours without permission? The most logical thing was to think it belonged to a coworker for later and not like they left it for whoever who came.
>>286755 Maybe it was another wizard that left his food unattended while going to the bathroom (IBS due to anxiety) and then came back to an empty box, so he had enough of being bullied and taken advantage off and complained to the boss about it.
>>286755 you're not being faithful! anyway first you take others' food and then lament that they dislike you! i wouldn't like my food taken so i think i have the right to at least complain about a wiz stealing food even if it's not a big deal. it's just something unpleasant and kinda makes you wonder.
i don't even judge or whatever, i know how tempting homeless pizza looks, but i just want you wizs to know that if you steal food people will not just look at it, so wondering why your boss tried to guilt trip you is like wondering why a broken leg hurts.
>>286551 It’s amazing how in the US you have to give your dumb 2 weeks notice (I think it’s by law?) in my shithole country you can just tell them to fuck off and disappear the next day, even if you were desperately needed you’re under no obligation to keep working, even for skilled jobs like software and shit.
A company I worked for tried to force me into not going to another software company (exclusivity contract or something) and they gave me some legal babble about intellectual property and so on, turns out that kind of agreeement that could work in the US is illegal here too and you’re under no obligation to stay out of certain fields/companies, so I told them to fuck off and went to the other company.
>>286573 Office jobs may be a bit comfy because you’re sitting on your ass all day, but I think that’s probably the only advantage, while doing office jobs you have to do menial and repetitive work over and over again, deal with shitty people and their shitty personalities and feel very alienated and powerless in general, like some generic cog that could be replaced.
>>286776 I work on it doing dumb QA work and I have to deal with people every single day, luckily I managed to be kind and nice so I haven’t gotten into trouble yet, but it’s true what they say, if you’re a social retard that can’t be nice to people even a bit you will have a hard time until they get rid of you.
>>286776 Why are you writing such blatant lies? Maybe you're a normalfag that thinks hours of meetings, constant chats and dozens of emails per day is nothing
>>286764 You don't have a legal obligation in America to give 2 weeks notice. You can quit whenever you want to with no notice at all, and people do it commonly in unskilled jobs. Giving at least 2 weeks notice, however, is considered polite and customary and allows you to leave the company on good terms, which can matter if you'd like to secure positive employment recommendations from them in the future.
what are some unethical but not illegal way to make a bit of quick cash? I have thought of joining newsletters (Dunno how this works, someone told me they pay you a bit), joining online casinos for the free starter bonus and then not doing anything, etc
>>287059 If you're a first worlder because you squandered your opportunity to get useful (in a market sense) skills in your youth. If you're not, that's because you're not in the first world.
If that fails, roll the dice with suicide until you are born into a country with neetbucks. Repeat ad infinitum until you succeed. Shouldn't take more than around 900 tries on average.
Unfortunately half of your births will be as a chinaman or indian, but you can just instantly skip all rebirth rounds when you see brown or asian faces around you.
What are some low stress jobs for wizards? I have an education but my mental illness has fucked my cognition up so badly I just want a low stress job, I don't give a fuck about whether it's minimum wage/low status.
Those who work with the utter retardation of the general public, be prepared for the moronic wave of rude and hateful people who will ruin your workday.
>>287092 Being a dishwasher is pretty comfy. You just do your thing without anyone bothering you and you can even listen to music while you work. It's low paying and pretty tough physically, but I did it for some time and think it might be a nice short term job till you get better. And I don't recommend taking it for a long while.
>>286969 Nah man it is a To good to be true 100% of what you first invest but the catch is you need to gamble x amount of money to earn it. In my case i need to gamble with 20x the amount i first put in. Thankfully only spent about 2 dollars worth before realizing and pulling out
>>287092 Security guard at some industrial area/warehouse/etc. Ideally a location where you don't have to interact with members of the general public or keep such interactions to a bare minimum. I've worked a few of them and security has always been a very laid back job for me with low stress. Avoid postings where you are required by your employer to be on your feet all day such as in a bank, shopping mall, nightclubs, crowd control, etc. If you can find a laid back wizguard job where you're basically all by yourself in some security booth or watching cameras, you'll be set. As long as you can show up on time on a regular basis and show that you're reliable, a lot of employers won't even care if you bring a book, a phone, or even a laptop to watch anime/movies or just browse the internet during your shift.
can we talk about med. school? I dont know how to explain this terms in english but: there is a course of studies of 6-8 years long at a nearby university to become a doctor. After it ends you are officially a DR and can start an official career. during the studying you can \must do 24-hour shifts, attend IRL practices, basically work as a medical assistant in real hospitals for years while you study. Where can I read about med school "horror stories" to see for myself, if I can take it? will I be sleeping 3. hours a night for months while I work+study? I genuinely want to be a doctor. my parents can support me while I study for the 6 years. I actually hate home life\ being in a house or apartment, etc. being 80% of time alive away from any personal home is so ideal for me.
>>287276 Were you a top student before? Usually the people that go to med school in any country are the cream of the crop and even then, they still might end up dropping out somewhere down the line.
>>287277 I wasnt but back then I masturbated. Now I do celibate semen retention so its illogical to say im *not* the cream of the crop (celibacy is the highest good). but, even as an incredibly sacred (a celibate), it will still be tough?
>>287278 You can give it a try. Although, a bad academic record might disqualify you from even attempting the exam. Depends on how popular the school is and how many candidates.
>>286573 >>286574 I just started a new office job and most of my coworkers are 40+ with families of their own. The few younger guys have long term relationships, on the way to having a family. It is super strange being in the office because you get the sense that the whole thing is worthless without a family to support.. All the autists like me I went to school with are either doing big city corporate jobs or are blocked out of the market entirely. I am wondering if there will be some “great filter” upcoming that will prevent my advancement as a non-normie. I assume it will be mental burnout from working my ass off and having no chance of living a fulfilling life. Also like the other guy said, you will find people with 20 years at the company that are flat fucking useless at their job. They only stick around because they are “sociable” and other people pick up their slack.. I would say a desk job is probably better than blue collar. BUT it comes with A LOT of risk that you will be stuck in recruitment hell and never find an entry level position. Everyone I’ve worked with in the past got their job out of nepotism, while I’ve been insanely lucky.
Update from the coworker that got 11 people fired. She got fired as well but tried to throw shit at the remaining coworkers (not me since I barely spoke to her) as she got the boot. It saddens me knowing that there are people whos only skill in life is to make things worse for everyone
>>287286 >you get the sense that the whole thing is worthless without a family to support.
yep. normies tolerate work because it funds the rest of their lives which are actually pretty good and enjoyable. If you don't have a good life because you are living in isolation and can't enjoy time with friends or family, then it just becomes a hellish slog. You should only do the bare minimum to eek out the quality of life that one can get in a situation like that. All you really need is a computer, internet, and video games. Most things become hollow when done alone.
>>287723 I still want nice furniture and art despite living alone and never allowing anyone into my home, because beautiful surroundings lower depression and elevate the mood every day you wake up.
Waking up to a depressing white box with stained walls and no art just further fuels depression.
>>287724 >>287725 Reason I ask is because for years I looked for a print I really like to have on the wall and this is the closest I ever got of a favorite.
>>287725 I used to like modern art and prints, but because it's so easy to replicate, it's essentially worthless junk and present in millions of homes.
The only art I now like is hand painted old oil paintings, but they're impossible to get ahold of without participating in auctions, so I only have 2 paintings so far. Most people with huge painting collections only have them through inheritance because it takes hundreds of years to build a decent collection, for a decent sized house that is.
I'm getting sick to death of this. What's the fucking point anymore? I've been in my current job for 5 fucking years now and I'm still on an entry-level salary. Year after year they come up with reasons to block me getting a pay rise. Meanwhile some fucking succubi joins who can do considerably less work than me and she earns £7K FUCKING MORE THAN I DO. I can not afford to move out of my parents house where I never have privacy and live anywhere except a shared house where I'd get my own bedroom and MAYBE a bathroom if I'm lucky. I'm 32 years old. I don't want to live like that. I should not have to fucking live like that. I've spent my entire fucking life like this and I am not going to trade my parents in for complete strangers who are 10 years younger than me. I want my own apartment, no matter how small it might be. I look at European countries like Finland with envy over how unemployed men can live in their own comfy flats. Meanwhile I work my entire God damned life and I can't afford to be independent. How is that fair? What kind of fucked up system is this?
I've tried time after time to get another job and I just keep failing. Train driver? Rejected. Another office? Rejected. Teacher training? Rejected. IT? Rejected. I have hundreds of rejections from the past 4 years piled up in my emails. The breaking point finally hit me when I failed yet another assessment after months of awaiting results for a job I was more than capable of doing and would have paid over twice what I am on now. The same day I got rejected I was pulled into a meeting with my manager to once again chew me out for not hitting some arbitrary targets and I was put on a final warning that further 'failures' could lead to disciplinary action. I literally could not care less. At this point being sacked would be a blessing. All I get is stress, anxiety and pennies.
I just don't know what the point of any of this is anymore. I can't even fucking drink myself into a stupor because of the lack of privacy at home where I am still treated like a child as a 32 year old man. My wage is pathetic but aside from video games I save. Save for what I don't even fucking know. It's not like I could live on my savings for very fucking long and then I'd have nothing. I've had a grand and intoxicatingly naïve dream of just travelling the world until I drop dead. It'd be a more fulfilling life than working day after day for some cheapskate corporation on a salary that won't even let me live in a shoebox apartment.
This is just a whiny stream of consciousness but I truly believe the world is fucked where even working for years upon years in a full time job I can not afford to rent more than a single bedroom in a house filled with university kids.
>>287865 yea its fucked, literally every part of the process applying is hell by itself then you're at a major disadvantage because you wont fit the company's diversity/gender quota then even if you make it in some random (probably quota employee too) will get ahead of you while being noticeably worse at what they do then even if you get both of these the pay is still garbage and you'd be lucky to make enough to live alone meanwhile my mother moved out at 21 on a call center salary.
Something has to break eventually it has absolutely no sustainability but that could take a lifetime or more.
>>287865 Buy land, build a house, grow food. Stop being a slave. Or, keep complaining and being a succubus about it. Too weak to do that? Get welfare and foodstamps.
>>287865 I'm in a similar spot, except I'm 41 and actually managed to move out. After a year in an apartment, I can barely afford to live. I make $40k USD a year, and will have to move back in with my mother after this lease ends because it's not economically feasible for me to continue living alone. On $40k a year, in a mid-sized US city that is not at all hip or trendy or "happening." It's so fucked how expensive housing is.
>>288015 c'mon, man. It's not only about the city, but the neighborhood, the far from the center, the cheaper. If you can get like 10~15 minutes from a subway/train station, you can live 30 minutes train travel from work or just buy a motorbike
>>287059 Why do you think people are so angry in the world? they have to work and they can't stand it. Everytime you see an angry person just realize they are a slave to the system thats probably why they're angry.
>>287094 You see ic an't work with the public, i'm very empathetic and pick up on vibes and get easily triggered and bothered if people have attitudes, another one of my weird quirks. I would not be able to handle it for one day.
>>288023 >i'm very empathetic and pick up on vibes and get easily triggered and bothered if people have attitudes, another one of my weird quirks.
Oh my Gandalf it's a female!!
Picrel from another thread. Not being able to be part of a social circle because you think that you're so atune to peoples' feelings that you can telepathically sense the they have "bad vibes" has got to be #1 on the list of shutin fat succubus pothead delusions.
I had forgotten how little time there was in a day while NEETing new job after almost 5 years neet and i'm amazed at how it utterly destroys time to do anything else i don't know how i handled it before, i used to work 6 years ago with even longer hours and less pay
I wonder if life will get better once everything collapses - probably not. It's just so fucking stupid how (almost) everything in modern society is made to distract you from death and wageslavery.
>>288015 Why not find a roommate? I'm sure there might be some fellow older wiz who would mostly keep to himself and could help you pay the rent. Just do proper vetting, you wouldn't want to let in some squatter or a scammer.
>>287865 >This is just a whiny stream of consciousness but I truly believe the world is fucked where even working for years upon years in a full time job I can not afford to rent more than a single bedroom in a house filled with university kids. I believe a lot of things we're seeing in this world are by design. Things like cost of housing being more and more out of reach of ordinary people, rents going up drastically, flooding western nations with uncontrolled migration, etc. This is not by accident, it all has a nefarious purpose underneath. The powers that rule over us want to strip you of whatever wealth you still have left, so as to rule over a mindless serf underclass that will never be able to rise up & challenge them. That means limited access to wealth creation for the lower classes, forcing the prices of essential goods to constantly keep going up, keeping housing costs unaffordable, etc. to keep the masses constantly on edge.
>>288038 >I wonder if life will get better once everything collapses - probably not Crisis is only an opportunity to people already in power to overthrow their rivals, and the current table is composed by the same people that only disagree in how they should sacrifice children. Remember, they are in power has been 100 years
>>288042 >I believe a lot of things we're seeing in this world are by design. Things like cost of housing being more and more out of reach of ordinary people, rents going up drastically, flooding western nations with uncontrolled migration, etc. This is not by accident, it all has a nefarious purpose underneath. The powers that rule over us want to strip you of whatever wealth you still have left, so as to rule over a mindless serf underclass that will never be able to rise up & challenge them. That means limited access to wealth creation for the lower classes, forcing the prices of essential goods to constantly keep going up, keeping housing costs unaffordable, etc. to keep the masses constantly on edge. You are seeing the wrongs things, all of those were used to overthrow the monarch and are now only side effects. The main current thing was abolishing the gold standard and establishing a society run by banks. You live in a society that your money is continuously losing value, unless you put your money in a bank or fund to be exploited at best to cancel the inflation rate or has a degree in finances to have some profit, and there also the planned crisis to fuck you. All investments are scams, including stocks and funds, but you are forced to diversity on those to lose less money because inflation while the last remain is having your own business, but good luck without bank money and not following the new standards because your competitor gonna be, to overlap the already hard activity. For last, just look during the pandemic, all big brands approving an eternal lockdown to remove all competitors
I am in a state of life where my status and outward appearance would make it seem that I am blessed with the opportunities I've taken and I am in a more fortunate position than all of my other peers. However, I feel that I am constantly being numbed and drained of all emotions and hope that once filled me. This makes it near impossible to complain about my life standing or my desires without the subtle nod that I should be grateful for where I am.
I just got another raise at my first full-time job out of university in IT (similar to some of the complaints posted before, where I took the entry level position). I can afford my own place in a quiet area. I now make 90K a year with great benefits in a pretty tolerant atmosphere. I work "hybrid" but it's only 2 days a week and it isn't officially regulated, so if you don't meet that quotas then there is no repercussions (nor any recognition, rather). I get 15+ days vacation and people are not strict as to what time you must come in. Everyone is polite, respectful, and non-anxiety inducing (very few succubi, to which the ones at my work are all 40+, which makes it easier for me to talk to). All aspects about the job seem great and fantastic to most people.
But…
The actual work brings me no fulfillment and I constantly daydream of alternatives that I could be doing that would bring me more happiness. I didn't REALLY want to work in IT but the idea was propagated into my conscience by the people around me. "You're always on the computer so why not work with them?" Whenever I was asked at a young age what I wanted to be when I grew up, I would always freeze and not know an answer. Many would think this is just due to me not knowing my possibilities and interests, but as I grew older, a realization hit me. I froze at those moments because I didn't want to do anything the people around me were doing, and I knew those jobs were the only reasonable options. I saw how work shaped my parents into unhappy slaves, no matter how many times they tell me that it wasn't a big deal. I saw how my mother resented my father during his period of unemployment, projecting her desires of a relaxed life upon my father. I saw how all adults around me lived not necessarily horribly, but lackluster. None of them enjoyed what they were doing. I didn't want to be like the people around me, but I didn't have the courage to change the things I could. I have become them.
There is a large age gap between my coworkers and I, at least 10 years, so it's been difficult (once again) meting people and the work area is very unoriginal, being in a busy suburban area. The city I live in is also older so making friends is still hard. I never really cared about friendships when I was younger but in retrospect those lonely memories only served to poison me, wounding me as years came on. I now want friends, ironically at a time when it has became the hardest.
I go through a routine in my head every work week: > I could start my own business. But of what kind? Where will I source the money? What would I sell? How would I build a team? I barely have passion for something I worked 3+ years for, what would I be even more passionate towards? > I could start farming for the family But with what experience? How will I maintain an entire property just by myself? Would I even be happy with that life or am I just trading one work for new work? > I could do the lottery But even if I were to win, what then? I would buy all the retarded things I ever wanted but it wont change my lifestyle. Since day 1, I have been by myself enjoying hobbies for loners, and I will most certainly do the same until I die. Many people think that a raise or a 6 figure job will change their lifestyle but the hard truth is that you will certainly be doing the exact same things you've always been doing with or without money.
I need a revelation in my life. I need courage. I need to understand how to escape this perpetual cycle without trading it in for another one. Am I too lost in fiction? Has life always been this constant unimpressed state or have I been manipulated by fiction to believe there was something more than this? Should I just continue this life and realize that I am ungrateful for having so much money at youth? Money means little to me as I have no impulse desires and only live a minimal(ish) lifestyle.
There are subtle thoughts of ending it all but I would rather suffer than to feel the null void. I do not plan on going out soon.
>>288047 The soul draining of work, regardless of how good it is I got a job after a while neeting that pays 3x more than my shitty retail one from years ago I work an hour less, the work is less stressful, there are no succubi, others are pretty chill, they sometimes even play games near the end of the day because there is no work to do that time And yet it still drains me. I have little time to do anything else and have 1000 things I would rather do Time I spend at home I can't enjoy because I know I have to go slaving soon again I think the only tolerable work is part time a few days a week for like half the usual day max. I can probably handle that but this i don't know. It's less the work that's the problem and more the time it takes from me
>>288048 >Time I spend at home I can't enjoy because I know I have to go slaving soon again This feeling is the worst part of being a wageslave. You come home after work, but you can't relax because you know you have to do it all over again the next day.
>>288049 I wouldn't mind this so much if I was independent. I just want to move out. I've worked full-time for nearly a decade now and I still can't afford to live on my own and it's not for want of trying.
Working in a convenience store in the middle of a snow storm is the biggest piece of bullshit ever devised. You'd think you'd have an easy day, as no one in their right mind would be driving out in shitty conditions and risk their own safety just for a fucking big gulp…
But then you don't know the utter (and I hate using this word because I've had it flown at me in my younger years and it still traumatizes me) retardation of the Tennessee general public. They will literally and willfully sacrifice their own lives just to get a cheap ass hotdog or a pizza or some other dumb shit. It's fucking stupid.
Why does manual labour have to kill you I found it better than boring desk work dealing with normalnigger politics I just dig hole or mix this or whatever and basically half shut off my brain and the workday was done but the damage it would do to my body was too much so into the office i went
The downtown bookshop is coming up for sale as the old boy there is retiring. I was thinking of taking over the lease and running the store.
Why don't wizzies run small magazine shops or stores? They're pretty much wizzie jobs. The local magazine shop is run by an eccentric old guy who just watches tennis games and sleeps in his shop (I think he might even live in it).
>>285492 They found a gram (of cocaine) in the bathroom. I hope they dont make us do the drug tests, dont like having to piss while someone is close behind you.
>>288074 yeah, blue collar sucks, but you can die slower using PPE by on own money and enduring the bullying. This company saw any issue about the working conditions, only the comments, so disabled it, obviously
>>288200 anyway, blue collars and soldiers are expendable trash, no one cares. The only way is having your own company and this applies for everything, be change you want to happen.
Fun fact: most blue collars are exposed or on risk of being exposed to asbestos (and even worse airborne shit and chemicals), even white collars and civilians too YOU DON'T GONNA BREATH AND WILL BE HAPPY!
I have social anxiety and possibly autism and I am starting a salesman job tomorrow. No point in this post. Just a futile gesture at alleviating my nervousness and future suffering.
I started a new job. They flew me and 2 other people, including the "site lead" to a facility in another state to train. Both of the others quit immediately after training. I came back home, set up literally everything including servers, computers, assembled every single piece of furnitue, configured a bunch of stuff, had to get ISP people to come out, electricians, literally I was single handedly managing and arranging everything with very limited guidance. None of this is in my job description, but i did it anyways.
Eventually they had higher ups fly out. They treated me like shit, basically just very hostile and rude towards me for no real reason. Then they left. Now they hired a bunch of new workers. They are making me train everyone, including the new "site lead". No one else knows anything except me. They can't get anything done without me. I have been troubleshooting everything, fixing shit, setting stuff up. I don't understand why they don't just promote me. Instead they want me to train someone who is meant to be my boss. They didn't even thank me for any of my hard work. They did a zoom call yesterday and gave credit to other people for everything I've done. Im not even getting paid much. At all. The site lead is almost certainly making way more than me, even though im telling her everything, and also she's been sitting back and letting me make all the managment decisions.
Today i decide to stop giving a fuck. I am just hanging out in the bathroom on my phone. Let them figure it out. Fuck it.
>>288337 In fact, they are relying on me so much that the 1 day i called out, they just shut down and sent everbody home early. When i go to take a shit, everything comes to a pause and everyone sits on their phones waiting for me to return. The least they could do is give me a raise or at least some recognition.
>>288337 >The site lead is almost certainly making way more than me, even though im telling her everything, >her
succubi in management do so much harm. I've witnessed 80% of shifts quit all at once because they can't stop being cunts, filling the company with temp labor to plug the gap. It won't get better, you're best off just telling them your grievances and leaving.
If they're not giving you credit now, will they give you credit when you go for another job and use them as a reference? Or will they say "Oh his projects were always behind, he couldn't manage anything" because she's salty about how she's fucked everything up and looking for someone to blame.
I chat to a -lot- of people online from all around the world on a regular basis. The filtering out of white men from careers and replacing them with browns, blacks and white succubi doesn't seem to be an exaggeration. It actually seems to be worse than what people think. It's within the past year it's become egregiously bad. The reason they're not promoting you, or giving you a payrise, and treating you like a workhorse is because they might have to do due to DEI policies.
>>288337 Everyone thinks they're an essential employee and that no one can do anything without them and they're such a hotshot and never get any credit for what they do. Welcome to wageslaving, no one cares how hard you work or how much you've earned a promotion.
>>288344 On the other hand companies do shit on the people they need the most to keep things running while promoting useless social butterflies. He may exaggerating but in general that does happen. Dilbert principle. That's not new either, >>288343 is only seeing part of the picture. Cunts always end up in management, but it's fashionable now to push a quota of literal cunts in there, too.
Any wizbros ever asked for a promotion? I'm coming up on a year at my job and doing pretty well, I think. There's several numbered levels between me and management – I'm an Operator I, there's Operator II, Operator III, etc. How do you guys go about asking for a promotion? Living alone is just too expensive and I need to nut up and "advocate for myself." But I don't know what to say.
I got hired as an overnight stocker at Walmart. I am 28, and this will be my first job. I start on Friday and am nervous about having to socialize with normie coworkers. Have any of you had this job? Is it tolerable for an asocial wiz?
>>288380 It's probably a good environment for a wizzie. I did it for a while and there were mostly eccentrics. Lots of autistic types who keep to themselves and non-passing trans. It's not hard to learn and they'll be soft on you most likely.
>>288337 You see, if they acknowledged you in any way, then they would also be in a way acknowledging that you work harder than them. Rather, if they acknowledge at all that you have any value, then there is an opportunity for their own value to be compared against yours and they CANNOT let that happen. Most people do not go through life by putting in effort, they go through life by cheating and lying as much as possible. Nobody will EVER admit that you have value, nobody will EVER admit fault or deficiency in themselves. Most people are very ruthless, they won't even allow for the slightest possibility of them being exposed at all. It's pointless to do anything really. Other people will steal credit, or they will resort to flat out lying or even sabotaging. Anything necessary so that they look good and not you.
I can only handle wage slavery in small short doses because I'm pretty sure I can't handle it long term. Currently I am slaving. I woke up at like 1 or 2 this morning and because I knew I had to work today I became too anxious to get back to sleep. This is what I hate most about slaving, it steals everything from me, even my free time because I feel this dread over having to go back. Even the weekend it is there, always intensifying the closer I get to monday. And then of course because I am interacting with people my crazy brain gives me more episodes where I replay minor mistakes or possible embarrassments that I made at random intervals. I can get no peace living like this. Why did I have to turn out so damn crazy.
>>288380 Walmart isn't the best job environment from what I've heard, but it can be what you make of it. Now I'm not saying you should become some wagie suck-up to your higher-ups but just focus on doing your job correctly, be polite & respectful to your coworkers (you ain't gotta be friends with them), stay out of workplace drama, save as much of your income as you can and look to have a long-term plan for what you want to do for your career. Don't get too comfortable either like some retail lifers, you don't want to spend the rest of your life at some wagie box store with nothing much to show for it. If you have a chance to earn any kind of free certifications or technical job training at your job, definitely take advantage of that to build your resume. Good luck walmart-wiz.
>>288380 Everything >>288381>>288413 said, you'll probably be fine as long as you keep to yourself and shit like that, which I assume is exactly your plan. Overnight shifts should keep you away from customers, which tend be the greatest liability in this line work. GLGL, fellow wiznog
I posted about being set up and blackmailed when it happened to me on here, I haven't really worked much since then, but I just want to post about the guy who did it to me.
My supervisor was a middle aged guy who looked exactly like the soyboy meme. Same balding, same glasses, some everything. He was really desperate to be my friend, really got excited for when we'd all go for lunch as a company. All day he'd just talk in my ear and I'd kinda humor him along, he had zero social skills and just used to blabber about his life in little factoids. He vented to me about how his wife bullied him, about how he got bullied at every other job he had. His own boss openly disrespected him and yelled at him, and he took it, but sung this guy's praise and made him out to be the best person ever. A total servile personality, obsequious beyond what I've ever seen in my life. He'd send 10 line long texts apologizing if the milk was empty at work.
He was a step dad and told he his wife openly tells him to be quiet each night because he talks to much. I gathered from everything he told me that he was clearly a betabuxx, there to pay her mortgage (he told me the exact value they had remaining, bewilderingly). Married three years ago, she was a stay at home mom with kids and the house was in her name from someone she divorce raped before. I thought to myself that this guy is insane, he has problems, but he seems harmless and hurt so I'll be nice to him. I did put a bit of effort to try to humor him along. And I genuinely thought I got somewhere, he started being able to talk more normally and wasn't so desperate to impress me. He got jealous that the other workers would talk to me normally and they wouldn't to him, and I told him how socializing works and how you've got to take a genuine interest in the lives of others. Gave him a hint that one liked black metal and to ask him about it.
Anyway, after he was involved in the blackmail and threats that got me to resign. I seen him a few months later working, and he just was smiling sadistically at me, almost laughing. He went around spreading false rumors about me, apparently mocking me as he told false stories of a mental breakdown. It was a bit bewildering to be honest, I think I might literally be the only person who treated him nice in his entire life, maybe outside his family, and he helped fuck me over completely.
The thing is, I'm sure types like that are browsing wizardchan and whining about their problems. The way he vented to me and cried about life was little different to a lot of the posting on here.
yo lads, what do you think is a good line of work for a schizoid with schizophrenia and social anxiety? I thought about janitor work or night security guard. Apparently, warehouse work is pretty suifuel.
>>288521 warehouse is suifuel, my life is built up like a slave how ironic, just be a night security guard and watch yourself, cleaning up piss and shit are for mexicans
>>288521 Wouldn't recommend janitor or warehouse. Night guard is definitely best >>288463 Not surprised. People like that are often genuinely horrible. Common thing i think is wizard types have a soft spot for people who are treated poorly, but the sad thing is usually there is a reason everyone treats them poorly. Usually because they have attrocious character traits.
Management is moving our stations from the first floor to the third, cafeteria is on the first which it would mean less time in lunch/breaks for us due to having to come and go between floors. Also we may have to sit nearby people taking inbound calls for customer service which is one of the most miserable shit to keep hearing during a shift.
>>288551 Don't. I've worked retail and fast food and it is not worth it. Not only will you be dealing with children (anyone under the age of 25) regularly both as customers and co-workers, but you will also be treated with no dignity and respect on a daily basis. At least with an office you can sit down all day and have a regular schedule. Fast food work is designed to drain your soul because you are disposable and they know it.
The grass always seems greener on the other side but it really isn't here. Don't make that mistake or you will regret it. Get a work from home job.
I made a very dumb mistake at work, the consequences were not serious but it was such a fucking retarded simple thing that I should have done and I didn’t do, I assumed certain dumb things that I shouldn’t have and fucked up.
That meant losing a day for me and all my team, they probably think I’m a retard that shouldn’t even be doing what I do, I even had a meeting with my manager and while she wasn’t mad she made it clear that this kind of thing is so natural for anyone on my position to do that I should have done it correctly.
I feel pretty bad and it’s making me want to kill myself again.
>>288636 >>288637 I'm not looking into retail and fast-food but I'm definitely looking factory jobs in my area. Anything that will enable me to make something actually solid instead of having my day walking on eggs and appeasing a bunch of self-righteous, pretentious, white-collar pieces of shit. The wage is not even that different.
>>288658 You didn't ask for an opinion but maybe get into office work in a different sector would help. I worked in corporate and it was just as you say, self-righteous pricks. Then I tried government and nonprofit work and no one gives a fuck about anything, and will let you slide much farther on shit than they would in corporate. Also it's near impossible to be fired. Just an idea.
>>288817 Read it as a "lady wiz" and had to do a double take.
Yeah, it's pretty good if it's night shift and you're just guarding something like a warehouse in an industrial area where there not much foot traffic. If it's during the day, you might have to confront rude and aggressive normies and escort them off the premises or call the cops if needed.
im just so, so sad i hate it all and i hate life. all the pressure of work, bills, money, expectation, all for a life i don't even enjoy. damned if you do and damned if you don't
30 years old, almost a year of job experience, 2 years out of the workforce. So, how can I unfuck my life as soon a possible? I need to work ASAP, help me, bros!
>>288996 There's no solution. You're just screwed unless you have an inheritance coming in.
There are people younger and older than you more screwed than you, with double degrees and lots of experience, who simply can't find work. Simply because there are too many people alive competing elbow first for the same few jobs.
Get netflix and stop stressing if you get no results in 6 months. It never began
>>288658 do not work in a factory wiz, understand factories are where all the low iq and eq normalshits end up. they’re like highschools but worse. and the work will ruin your body. anything but a warehouse
I got into a part-time job as a school cleaner. 3 hours early in the morning, basically just hoovering and cleaning a couple of toilets. It's so close to where I live that I walk there, and I get the rest of the day to myself after coming home at 9 o'clock.
I think I hit the jackpot. I don't know what to make of the fact that this is as easy as things get and I'm still barely coping.
>>289025 I was a "student" and then NEET for most of my 20s, living in my parents middle class house in the Third World country of Columbia, South America. Four years ago, at 32, I got a job at my career (anthropology/archaeology) pretty much by accident. Been working since then, on 4 different places so far. The only good thing of becoming wagie is the money (like 4 times the minimum wage on this forsaken shitehole), anything else I can barely tolerate it.
starting a job at a fast food place soon, probably. it's right next to a few popular food chains, said to be understaffed (with shitty management that doesn't really care about 'productivity'), and usually dead whenever i come through there…anyway any advice? how bad is it going to be?
>>287865 Another rejection just hit my inbox. I am just broken mentally. Physically my body is a shell compared to what it used to be but I just do not have the energy or motivation to do anything about it. All of that was spent applying for hundreds of fucking jobs just to get the same answer from each and every single one if I even get an answer at all. All I wanted was a single fucking chance at any of them so I could maybe have more to show for my life than it being frittered away at a dead-end shithole where I can't get a single pay rise. I can feel my bracrabls leaving my body each and every single day and I just do not care about what I am doing anymore. Maybe that's why I'm incapable of anything better; because I'm now stupider than the average person. Maybe it's also why I'm probably going to get sacked from this job before long too. I already know my manager likely wants rid of me and on paper I'm doing worse and worse every month with no signs of improvement because I just can't bring myself to try.
The sad thing is that I do care though. Because if I get sacked then I'm fucked. I can't even get a new job now so what the fuck chance do I have when I'm unemployed? If I have to go back to retail I will end up killing myself. All I fucking wanted was a job that would pay me enough to let me live independently for fucks sake. How is that so much to ask for? What is this fucking world? Fuck it man. I can't even enjoy my weekend now.
>>289149 saying and internalizing all of this is really bad for you. if you really do care like you say you do, then work on that to begin with. learn about NLP and how the words you use, subtle variations, can have big effects on people. it's almost the same as having magical powers, and a lot of magicians use NLP as integral part of their act.
unfortunately, wiz, the world doesn't care about what you want. if you get what you need even, consider yourself very lucky, as far as the numbers go there you'd be an outlier. if you can have a healthy body, a safe place to sleep, and a computer with an internet connect, nutritious food, you have it made. that longing for wanting to be more have more do more, to increase your status and lifestyle, what is your brain pushing you toward procreation? a single man needs very little resources to survive compare to a man with a family.
i wish i could live independently, i can't, and this world did that to me. i have to accept this, and find a new meaning and purpose, and i will because i'm a wizard. you will have to do better too, guy, a lot of really negative self-talk and that will properly undermine and sabotage yourself.
i can frame something different for you if you like, its a hyperbolic example maybe, and on the edge of satire even, built off some of my own framing and understandings. my objective in this exercise is to achieve a mental state that is consistent with truth, objective reality, my understandings, and will promote the kind of mindset to be able to live a better wizard life. because i know where the other mental state leads, and that is nowhere only more suffering. >another rejection just hit my inbox, further demonstrating the hard-work and dedication meme is a larp, and a subversive and destructive means of justifying the status quo. physically my body isn't in as good health as it used to be, however it's not so bad that i can't make big progress and changes and feel good about myself, when i manage to get things together one day, which is what i'm working on, even though its difficult right now. i spent a lot of energy and effort applying for jobs, and i should give myself a lot of credit for that, and it serves as testimony for my deserving better than what this clown-world has afforded me. i should go easy on myself as i haven't had good opportunities in my life to move forward, as compared to other people who have things much easier, it is no wonder they do better. this whole thing has really taken a toll and made me less optimistic about the future, things aren't always going to be the same though, i don't know for certain what the future has in store. i need to work on being more kind to myself and more forgiving, than the average person, as the average person has it a great deal easier. its obviously easier for them to perform their work functions well, which isn't a credit to them, its what you would expect when their lives are so much easier. my work performance hasn't been up to my usual high standards lately, and this is concerning as i don't want to lose this job, however i should remember that being the person i am, my work output is likely far better than the average person anyway, demonstrating superior character and integrity, so i really dont have a lot to worry about in that regard, i'm likely performing better than most of my peers still.
i still care and would like to turn things around and make a meaningful life for myself, however at the present time, i'm caught up in a lot of worry regarding my continued employment, but this is normal and something that many people do have to deal with, even people with dependents, families, which is fantastic that that is something that i don't need to worry about being a wizard. i haven't found any good opportunities for a job right now, however if i do end up unemployed, i could always go back to retail. it may not pay enough to live the kind of life i want to live, but that isn't a big factor as being a wizard, i'm able to get by on very little, and dont subscribe to the same modes and beliefs of the normal consumer, and so have very little need for much. its not a lot to ask for, then again nor is clean drinking water, and there are a couple of billion people that can't even get that. what is this world, that normals have constructed for us to live in, surely they will bring about their own suffering in time. it's unfortunate that i'm part of this society that they're destructing with rampant hedonism and self-centered, self-serving agendas bent on subduing everyone and everything else to increase their access to pleasure. certainly, i'm not going to allow these people to ruin my weekend, i will find a way to take some time for my own enjoyment, and achieve some satisfaction, even if only through self-acceptance and self-validation that these things i'm thinking and feeling, whilst not accepted by the unthinking unquestioning masses, are part of what make me different, and good, and a person worth loving, even if other lovers-of-self-only, cannot see that.'
maybe this example will be useful for some. i hope. its not always easy to implement and takes practice and training. its something though, another spell, another rabbit from the hat. are you trying to be a wizard or not?
My uncle died in throat cancer in the span of two years, just in time for his retirement. So he got no retirement at all after a lifetime of wageslave at the postal office. RIP dude
My problems are far from being the worst going on here, but everything just feels eerie and fragile like it can all flip in a matter of moments. My situation is generally stagnant. Work is simple enough to get through without any major hassle and I get paid enough to not worry about rent for my studio pod and other expenses, but never enough to actually accrue any savings. At least I have me to myself and my own space and time. But that's really it.
My work place is family run and has been going to shit recently, and it's the biggest open secret that things are financially fucked. It feels like it's only a matter of time before it goes under. Sure I'll get unemployment and whatnot, but I don't know what comes after. I drank myself out of university (in my room, not at parties obviously) and I stumbled through a couple shitty places before I found myself here and able to create a stable lifestyle for myself. I feel stressed and beyond shitty leaving not knowing what the hell is going to happen. I know what I need to do for myself, like trying to get some IT certs and transition fields for some better career optics or whatever, but I can't stay consistent. I'm deprived of any drive and ambition after work, and weekends I use as a shit excuse to languish about and "recharge" myself. I drop any new hobbies and interests as quickly as I pick them up and basically cycle through them every now and then as I quit drinking every few days to weeks or so. I don't understand how people can just go back to school to finish a degree when it takes my whole fucking soul just to keep myself afloat.
For reference, I'll be ascending to wizardhood next month, so I'm neither too old to make something happen or too naive to "fake it until I make it". Like what the fuck is the point of trying if you don't succeed? Pray you're some normalfag that can cope with this shit with other friends, god forbid an actual romantic partner? I don't even want to go out there and meet anyone, and even if I did, how the fuck do I set aside the time and money to do anything? It's just moving on from one escapism to the next, and I can hardly muster any effort and energy to do what I know needs to be done. The worst is when I feel I'm started to gather some momentum over the course of a week, and then I just get plummeted with the smallest nothing and go back to drink again and have to try and pick myself up and start again. It's a brutal fucking cycle and it only leads to thinking of how weak of an individual I am. So much ebb and flow in all this bullshit that I will never move from where I am. My only saving grace is that I won't let it drag me to rock bottom I suppose. I can go on and on about more inane bullshit and various thoughts I have, but I'll keep it at that so it appears somewhat concise, at least to me.
>>289351 fuck i wish i was so lacking self-awareness as to make a post like this. i would do anything for a life like yours, i never had the chance. you absolutely have it made and you dont even see it.
this is why nobody takes mental illness seriously anymore. all this guy is describing is normal shit that most normals are dealing with, and you are depressed about that? >My only saving grace is that I won't let it drag me to rock bottom I suppose
you won't allow or disallow anything. your post is weak, and it's ridiculous. you only have what you have because it fell into your lap, and instead of showing gratitude and recognize that you have it better than most people on this site and most people on the planet, you take up that much board space with complaining about literally nothing.
what the fuck are your actual problems that you're depressed about and merit a post like that where. what the fuck. you think life is meant to be bliss all the time? you are describing privileged normalfag problems, i can't relate to any of that shit. all your problems are in your mind and bullshit because you don't have actual problems to focus on and everything was handed to you so you don't know what the fuck which way is up and what is down. what an absurd joke this world is.
>>289351 you need someone to hit you over the back of the head, tell you to grow up because you're almost 30. you are a very very self-centered person, i believe. spend some time thinking about and caring about other people, doing charity, and seeing people that have real problems. it will help you to forget about your own, you're a neurotic, you have it too good. i wish i had the luxury of having it so good that i could have luxury problems like yours. you have no idea how fucking stupid it looks to people with real problems.
you need to seriously grow up. you are a man, you are a grown ass adult that has been equipped, you dont have excuses only complaining. most men in history 100x worse and nobody to complain to. what the fuck. really.
>>289352 >>289353 Well shit I literally prefaced it as being far from the worst going on here. I understand that I am blessed from a perspective, but at the same time it is also fragile and can dissolve at a moment's notice. It's a fucking wageslave thread, so I posted about wageslave things. I'm stuck in a pod and that's as good as it ever will be. There's literally other anons with stable living here so why am I different? Because I wanted to write a couple paragraphs? Not even about my life being shit, just stagnation and discomfort for the future. I'm not happy nor am I miserable. I'm just here.
>>289352 >My only saving grace is that I won't let it drag me to rock bottom I suppose >you won't allow or disallow anything What the fuck is the point you're making? I'm saying everytime I try something, I keep falling back into a pit until I feel like shit, understand I am feeling like shit, try to not feel like shit, stop feeling like shit, and then fall back into the cycles within a matter of days. Where is the distinction of allow vs disallow? I say won't allow because I try to break the cycle but it ends up being apart of the cycle. I am just a weak minded individual.
>>289353 I literally do food kitchen help at once a month faggot. I've been around countless homeless individuals of all walks of life in [Big City]. I know where I stand. It helps me go outside and remain sane and gain a perspective. God forbid I have any issues in my life because someone has it worse than me. By that logic no one here should speak because any African child could be dead at a moment's notice.
Christ you faggots have such a victim complex that you will lash out at anyone else having their own set of issues. Reminder, this is a wageslave thread, not a 'my life is miserable and if I don't think yours is as miserable as mine then fuck you' thread. It's no wonder you faggots sound as miserable as you probably are when your perspective of things are so narrow and the only thing you see is the arrow pointed at you. Fuck you.
>>289348 A disgusting lardass coworker at a previous job of mine would never shut up about the cabin he bought for his retirement and was going to move into with his wife, who was retiring the same year he was. He'd go on and on about how frugal and penny-pinching they were, and talk shit to any of us if we mentioned spending money on even small shit like video games or a new phone.
Two months before the day of his retirement finally came (management had even been planning him a party), he had a massive heart attack and died. Didn't bother to take care of himself and "saved" all that money for nothing. This is why you watch what you eat and try not to be a pig.
>>289355 Early retirement and financial independence are a trap. Living expenses and houses keep going up and become unaffordable so you just work for nothing.
>>289357 Neetbucks is a way to retire early and it works though.
I "retired" at about 19 because I hate work and people, and started living on neetbucks. I'm 34 now and the system is still up. Housing isn't unaffordable because the neetbucks increase by the amount of inflation each year.
Of course if the system ended, I would jump from a cliff as soon as my savings ran out. But it doesn't look like it's ending any time soon.
>>289363 Nope, white as snow. I live in Norway. I also have a fairly new car and gtx 4080 gaming pc all bought with neetbucks.
The trick is not using alcohol or smoking. Eating food in moderate amounts and preparing it yourself. That way I can easily save 10k a year from neetbucks and life a comfy life.
I understand some people need alcohol as a cope and thus can't save from neetbucks, but it does come down to willpower and choice for non-addicts. My cope is sports, gym, imageboards and free autistic hobbies like modding old NES roms.
>>289364 You're not legally allowed to even have liquid savings on NEETbux I thought? I live a similar life to you but I basically have to keep my savings to a minimum, because after a certain quantity they make you spend it and reapply for NEETbux once it's gone.
Once you own a house you can easily transition to NEETbux mode in most firstie countries, because a home is a personal residence and doesn't get counted as an asset. If you have boats and other shit, then yeah, they make you sell that here.
>>289362 What I meant is that wageslaving to early retirement and financial independence is a trap. There are normalfags who are too proud to get on bux and neet because they will feel like a loser.
>>289364 What are you officially diagnosed with? Getting NEETbux is just pure luck here, you need to make up 100 points with various illnesses here, certain ones having more points than others and you almost always need to apply multiple times; it's a game of luck depending almost entirely on what government wagie has enough pity on you to accept your claim basically. I've heard of full blown wheelchair bound people that worked for years being rejected meanwhile some junkie claims muh ADHD and Depression and gets it instantly. It's made just available enough that the average wage-slave donkey has a carrot dangled in front of him similar to retirement (total illusion) but almost all wageslaves hate DisabilitySupportPension NEETs and see them as lazy druggies cheating a system. (which they usually are)
>>289355 you didn't address anything, more complaining. if you were to concede your own nature you had an opportunity to grow, some people remain children their whole life its up to you.
>>289389 >Authorities in your country can't touch those funds. The people who put the money in those funds usually can't touch them either if the exchange goes down, the private key is stolen, or the superficial value of the coins plummets.
>>289390 True, but the wallet has to be chosen carefully. Paysafe owned wallets like neteller and skrill (ex moneybookers) have been online for nearly 30 years now. They aren't going anywhere.
Diversifying assets is always good of course. Since I'm paranoid to some degree, 10% of my savings are always in cash. Only a house fire could destroy them.
>>289389 You literally can't turn it back into liquid cash again thoughbeit. I guess maybe you could wagecuck for a while and liquidate your savings. But then you're fucked if you want to get back on NEETbux because you'll be made to spend that money.
Here they make you print out your bank account details once a year to show expenses. They'll see money disappearing into a crypto exchange and know what you're up to. You could do it, but you're better off withdrawing $50 from an ATM once a week and buying physical gold or silver. The authorities will just assume you're buying drugs and not really care.
>>289393 Idk what you mean. You obviously have 1 account for true expenses and personal matters and 1 for showing to authorities.
Also, you have been able to get a Mastercard for the balance in your online wallet for decades. I just use that to buy groceries or on the rare occassion, withdraw paper money from an ATM. The card is only 10 euros a year so practically free.
I sure love driving to work to fix my car and buy gas for my car and pay bridge tolls for my car and insurance for my car so I can afford to drive to work.
A man's mind needs focus, goals, activity. Work creates that. Since none of us are getting any vagoo and never will, work (and money) provides something to keep one's spirits high. Embrace it.
>>289438 Past getting a better PC working is pointless. You'll never be able to afford a house and can only sign up yourself to be an indebted servant.
>>289459 the word you're looking for is indentured not indebted.
you never know what will happen in the future and society is going to change in ways the world has never seen over the coming decade. i don't think it will be better, but i know there will be more opportunities because there will be a lot of chaos and people will all be much more in the mix. you will have the opportunity to compete like wild west days.
which is why the best advices on this site is still, disregard females, acquire magic.
make your body and mind strong, this will increase your mana. you will be a strong wizard able to protect and have agency in the world. focus on exercise, eating well, learning useful skills and don't fret about normal values and beliefs which are all derived from self-pleasure and self-gain motivations.
>absolutely miserable and constantly stressed when I have a job >somehow even more stressed out when I'm unemployed I know it's unrealistic but I really wish I just got money for existing
Seeing all of the big time nepo baby streamers complain about how hard their job "streaming" is and putting down actual everyday Joes who are working absolutely god-awful jobs just to barely afford to live makes me so fucking pissed off. Let's just put it into perspective for a moment. Those streamers can come out with some of the worst takes possible which anger their entire audience and yet….people will still continue to watch them. They'll give them money. Nothing changes. NOTHING. They can make absolute fucking fools of themselves and get away with it. How is that hard? If I piss off the wrong co-worker then my life will turn into a living hell and I stand a good chance of losing my job over it and thus my livelihood because I can't just be a NEET. If my manager doesn't like me then they'll do everything in their power to replace me, as has literally happened twice now in my working career. These streamers are so far out of touch they have no idea. And yet they claim to be left-leaning socialists. Go fuck yourself Hasan and Asmongold.