/dep/ - Depression

unfortunately it likely means you're a crab and do not really belong here
don't get upset, however
not everyplace is there to support and like you
go visit some crab bucket

Such is the wizard condition. It is true is that we are lonely. Some wizards are less lonely in that they may have family or a handful of colleagues to communicate with, but in the bigger picture we wizards are alone men in a universe built of pairings. Loneliness only grows with age too. Every day we grow further from those days of talking vidya with school chums, or contentedly playing alone at recess with no knowledge or concern of our impending psychological dependency on finding a mate and raising kids. The journal entries for monotonous lonely days begin to pile atop the pages we wrote when blissfully practicing peaceful solitude, which are covering the entries for our days of discovering that we are different from the other kids, which have long since smeared the pages we wrote about the happy times with friends and family. Might as well be a cosmonaut watching our pale blue home shrink smaller in the the darkness of space as we head in to the infinite beyond. Will we find other lifeforms with which to enjoy life with side-by-side? Slim chance. Will we eventually get sucked in to a black hole and never see anything again? inevitably. What's certain now is that any fun times we had with out fellow Earthlings is behind us. Thinking about these happy times will only allow the memories to wound you in more painful ways. It can eventually get to the point where you're praying for the days in which you could even smile at a picture of a nice kitten, or receive a pay-per-smile from the cashier at the grocer. Any air of warmth in the coldness of this space would be welcome.

If partnering up isn't in your mission plan, here are some things to consider:

Learn to see beauty in the stars. There are a lot of comforts that only someone floating through space may experience. As a solo cosmonaut, you have the freedom to pursue any academic interest of your choice. Infinite information is available to you at your fingertips on the ship's central computer. If you're able to lose yourself in the study or observation of some few things, you can embark on a journey of indulgement with no worry of a partner or family imposing on you. Going back down to Earth, you can go anywhere you want at any time with the only thing holding you back being your tolerance to pain and loneliness. Every opportunity is open to you with no social obligations to tie you down.

Learn through crashed cosmonaut's travel logs that friends aren't all they're chalked up to be. You can embrace your solitude as an act of defiance against what you may learn to be a flawed existence. For every lonely man on Earth, there are two who long for the days they could be alone. Other humans are a mixed bag of demons in disguise and androids from Venus. You can see for yourself how they scream and shout at the man who just wants to be left alone, who mistakenly signed a contract to be in their company for life. The pittance of comfort he gets from being paired up and among much family may be incomparable to how much he just want to sit and think. His very resources and life force may be bled dry through no wrongdoing of his own. He may be a lion with a herd, but he's not the king anymore and yet he's still stuck in the cage. He looks up to the skies and sees you floating alone, praying to heaven to let him be as free as you.

And if you eventually get too miserable to even flush your astrotoilet, you can begin being mean to people online like this fag >>286953.

Merry Christmas, Wizard.

>>286956
You get coal for Christmas.

>>286955
nice paste thanks

>>286953
this

virginity probably isnt the best decision for you if you feel like that. Do what makes you happy

>>286955
>begin being mean to people online like this fag >>286953.
nice ragebait, normie

I feel the same way.

Once I got older, even though I am not actually progressing as a person, I got tired of how shallow and meaningless all the talk on the internet is. It's clear that people aren't interested in meaningful interactions because they get that in real life and there is no barrier to entry and no real consequences for posting online. I used to think that online chatting is superior because it removes the smalltalk and only facts matter but only recently I realized how much I miss having a continuity to the opinions and context to the things someone says when talking to someone instead of starting from scratch with every post and seeing the opinion in isolation.

Idk what to do though because I'm a NEET and lack the social experience and I imagine anyone will just be too weirded out by me spending the last 10 years alone not really doing anything and having no stories to tell.

>>286964
I can't take anyone seriously on the internet or real life, everyone full of bullshit, even me. The truth eventually turns into a lie.

>>286965
sure sure don't get angry

>>286966
ironic isn't it

part of being a wizard is feeling lonely. I can't give you any advice.

I wish I had friends that I knew wouldn't judge me for being a mentally ill NEET.

>>286988
i don't judge. but yes i'm not a friend. at least have some comfort at the thought. don't you give up!

>>286988
Trick is to find someone worse than yourself and then they can be the one fearing your judgement instead.

>>286995
Doesn't work.

I was literally giving this one poor friend of mine thousands of dollars and all they would do is judge me, eventually unfriending me and then blocking me.

>>286996
I'll be your friend for $1,560.00 USD

>>286996
>>286999
i would be your friend for $150USD a month

>>286999
>>287000
I've learned my lesson. Giving money to people doesn't do any good for creating friendships with people who detest you on a fundamental level. No amount of money would make them like you.

>>286952
Try join a Discord or something.Then again youll probably realize how awful people can be.
After working with people all day I dont have the desire with normos more than I have to. This thread feels that it comes from someone with too much free time

>>287016
Schop said this too

>>286980
true wizards feel lonely. You're underage so you will never understand us.

I am 34 years old and feel lonely during chirstmas and holiday season cause I have no family to share it with since my parents passed away and everywhere becomes a reminder of good old times.

You are the real crab on this site for crying and wanting to shut down real wizard problems and discussion on dep. You can go back to reddit where everyone pretends to be a le funny comedian.

>>287019
Loneliness is part of the human condition. It is fine and natural for any person to feel lonely. Essentially every human experiences it at some point.

However if you write it with the specific wording "The closer I get to 30 as a virgin, the more lonely I get" this is unambiguously stating "i feel bad because i want sexual/romantic experiences" which is unambiguously against the rules.

I am over 30 too, btw

>>287019
You're talking to a zoomer for whom being a wizard is a costume. They don't even remember *why* certain rules were introduced nor do they remember wizardchan. It's kind of insane that there's a set of "apprentices" that have a completely different grounding to their kind because they have no memory of the past.

>>287050
I have been here since wizardchan, with long breaks. Anons accusing other anons posters of being underage instead of engaging in conversation is getting old, isn't it, if you're not the apprentice yourself?

Nobody ever agreed on the purpose of rules, and the battle against crabs has been unceasing. To me the purpose is to be a comfortable, enjoyable space for virgins. Having young crabs crying about how they want sex is -completely- anathema to what i want to see here. It is boring, repetitive, self-hating disparagement of wizards. If you want sex then do it. Otherwise try to accept yourself as non-normal and find happiness in whatever ways you can even if it is small and fleeting - and discuss this journey with other wizards. After this this time, and as the userbase has aged, one would hope people have moved forward. The wizard meme itself represents acceptance and positive transformation as one hits 30 and beyond - you want the site to conversely represent a spiral of degradation and insatiable craving for sex?

>>287052
>The wizard meme itself represents acceptance and positive transformation as one hits 30 and beyond - you want the site to conversely represent a spiral of degradation and insatiable craving for sex?
I just realised how precisely this thread strikes at this issue, and how it is the primary disagreement on wizchan.
"The closer I get to 30 as a virgin, the more lonely I get" is so directly in opposition to the original concept of "wizard" - someone that grows in power as they age as a virgin. It states the precise opposite: virginity hurting you more and more as you age and become weaker.

>>287049
>>287052
Wizards get lonely, wizards become depressed, wizards get suicidal, wizards want some rest, you a motherfucker with no life of its own come here and disrespect this site's culture more than any crab could do.
>if you write it with the specific wording "The closer I get to 30 as a virgin, the more lonely I get" this is unambiguously stating "i feel bad because i want sexual/romantic experiences" which is unambiguously against the rules.
For a shit for brains like you who sees crab shit everywhere, sure.
You must seriously be a disgrunted nigger and the only faggot obssesed with this whole crab shit is you. You're a selfish piece of shit who does nothing but derail rule abiding threads because some in cel butthurt you, and now want to virtue signal in this thread about being more wizardly because of your misinterpretation of the OP. Get a fucking personality, some life instead of doing this. You are not a wizard.
You are more pathetic than any fucking crab I've seen posting on wizchan.

>>287055
very constructive response, thank you very much for contributing to this site and its well being

>>286952
It's the same here man except I am a poorfag and a thirdie. Regardless, at this point, I believe it's pointless chasing succubi, it's not like there are any virgin succubi left. Plus, I have a broken dick and crabdom induced dysfunction. So I guess it's prolly for the best that I don't get in a relationship, it would only serve to humiliate me and I can't have sex because I am disgusted by my own looks, can't cum even while masturbating with my broken dick cause I am mentally fucked. And 4chan has rotted my brain to the point I hate my own skin.

Let this be a message to junior wizzes and crabs. Get off the internet nigger. Whatever has been said, has been said a thousand times.
>>287058
Kek

I am a 42 year old virgin who has lived in the states. I cannot tell you how hellish my life is. I have severe issues. And honestly I don't post here often because I just keep going back to crabdom, it's intrinsic to me I think.

Sometimes, I just start crying for no reason and I cry frequently like 2 times a week.

I feel so emasculated.
My country was beaten by the whites for no reason.
My roasties fuck whites.
Whites are objectively more attractive but truly subhuman and animalistic from the inside with no empathy for us, with the exceptions of whitetruecels who are my type. And majority of white crabs would cease to be crabs after geomaxxing.

I am so full of hatred. My heart literally pains. I have severe panic attacks where I get so angry that I pass out after having a meltdown with crying.

I have nothing my country was destroyed, my race has been emasculated, my succubi only and only date whites, and I personally have lost. I hate being me. I hate being a man and having the burden of everything.

It's inherently unequal as succubi are fucked and men fuck. Which creates a dynamic where you can emasculate someone by fucking. I have so much hatred and bitterness for the whites that it's unbearable. And especially especially for succubi. They are the truest heartless freaks of nature and enemy collaborators.

But what can I do, I am like a week street dogs, and whites are like cars, there's nothing I could do to makes things right.

The war has been lost, my country has lost, my race has lost, my men have lost, we can't control our succubi.

And as for me, I have been thoroughly emasculated.

>>287138
what country?

>>287140
Philippines. It's over. The country is literally a whorehouse.

>>287138
>>287146
Re-align with China, they will take your islands but not your succubi.

>>287138
It's funny how the sexual inequality of the races gets glossed over when talking about racial issues. Really pouring people with an average height of like 5'6, with a skin tone that isn't desired, into western high schools and universities would inevitably result in this giga-seethe we see coming from South East Asians and Indians.

I look into communities like r/asianmasculinity and as a white man, it's just absurd to me. We've never really set out to emasculate you, and we don't really look down on you. I was sort of disappointed seeing how Chinese men behaved online with that crab stuff, because IRL I had always thought highly of them as hardworking diligent people.

>Whites are objectively more attractive but truly subhuman and animalistic from the inside with no empathy for us

Whites are the only people nice enough to literally give away their countries to mass migration. The very fact you're suffering in a white country is because we're the only ones stupid enough to do this shit, naively. We suffer from pathological altruism if anything and are too caring about races that openly despise us.

How do you think black africans or arabs would behave if they were fucking your succubi like white men do? It'd be non-stop constant mockery and braggart behavior, in public rubbing it in your face. Black african americans do that shit with "Muh BBC" despite the fact that they barely fuck white succubi at all.

That's the other obvious thing about this whining, if white people are so bad and you suffer so much around us, why don't you just fuck off from white countries? It's a weird entitlement where you want access to white people, access to white succubi, but can't handle the racial disparity that comes with proximity.

>The gaze that the colonized subject casts at the colonist's sector is a look of lust, a look of envy. Dreams of possession. Every type of possession: of sitting at the colonist's table sleeping in his bed, preferably with his wife. The colonized man is an envious man.

>>287149
Hapas invented it, because they have white desires, but Asian means. The 1st place to talk about these issues was Stuff Eurasian Males Like blog of 2011, years before r/AsianMasculinity even existed.

>>287151
https://www.city-data.com/forum/relationships/1167876-how-do-i-eurasian-male-deal.html

Damn 2011, instead of crying about it for THIRTEEN YEARS, hapa could have gotten plastic surgery or something. kids coming out of their mom's vagina while he was typing that are already out fucking. That's like sobbing from 1947 to 1960. All that energy crying about your life, and nothing to fix it. Where would you be if you didn't have inferior Asian genes to blame it all on? If an Asian face is what's ruining your life, you could have at least gotten plastic surgery instead of writing 40 manifestos about it.

why do they think whites have better lives?

>>287163
>colonized half the planet
>one of the most successful races on the planet that invented almost everything
>has food, water and shelter so retardedly easy

its kinda hard to understand why whites do have it hard when they're at the top.

>>287163
even the Carmella from sopranos say whites have it easy, sure every other race is sub par too whites but at least don't complain about being white

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1cyRkLb8G0

>>287167
It gets tiring when every race acts like whites are responsible for their problems (like that Filo above), promoting retarded shit like Dependency Theory to justify their inferiority complex and envy.

Since the development of East Asian countries, and the flooding of our countries with non-whites who share our society, what massive benefit do we have anymore? If I get off my NEET ass and go applying to jobs, there's a good chance of my manager being an Indian or an Asian.

There's also no sympathy for fuck up whites (like me). Not that I need sympathy, but harmful shit like "If you're mediocre with all that white privilege you're not actually mediocre, you're a loser" gets said all the time. There's a lot of us on this bottom end of the bell curve.

>>287168
Well let's be real the pinoy is indeed right about the fact that non white succubi can date and do date more whites at least in the West.

But here's the thing, the problem is this, that majority of non white men refuse to infringe upon the freedom of their succubi. And like when the world already believes that non white men are misogynistic by nature than might as well as act upon it.

Make tough laws, ask the parents to thot patrol, as the brothers to honourkill. But then again the gynocratic east will never learn.

The stage could easily be levelled if non white men take control. But instead they are like " Bro we live in 2023 bro succubi are not our property bro bro I am a castrated cuck bro " like whites can do that because there is no race higher than them on the totem pole. And hey nothing's unfair in war and love.

>>287168
I don't get the last part because if a black person is mediocre he will simply be known as a nigger, compared to other blacks who try to make a living and conform into society after the shit blacks went through in America. But I also agree that people shouldn't hate on whites either, life would be so easy if no one is negative all the time.

>>286964
clearly the longer you stay shutin or isolated the harder it is to socialize again. the few times when I still interact with people I realize how wider the gap had become between me and society

BTW Fuck the Canadians, the scum of white people.
>>287149
>whites suffer from pathological altruism
You've gotta be pathologically stupid to say some shit like this. Capitalism really is the answer. Besides there's basically no one trying to leech while majority because immigrants work overtime. And here's the thing apart from a few trolls nobody really wants white succubi at all. People would've gladly fucked off from your country had your people not killed and enslaved. I am still waiting where you tell me that wars of imperialism were fought because of altruism and not self-gain. The world would've been a better place without the existence of expansionist people. Now, the fact of the matter is this, white men lucked out genetically, and basically nothing can be done about this, as POC succubi might hate white supremacy but not as much as they love sleeping with the whites. So the pitiful cycle will continue. Unless, as I said earlier, non white men take charge of their succubi, which they won't.

>>287149
>>287481
With that said, I'll admit the part where you said, that white men never set out… I mean yeah, there's more white fever in yellows and browns then the opposite. No doubt about that lol. JBW.

>>287481
>You've gotta be pathologically stupid to say some shit like this. Capitalism really is the answer

If we really wanted to have browns working here in a cost effective fashion, we'd do what the Gulf States and Israel do, import you for a job, force you to sign contracts saying you won't fuck our succubi (no shit, this is what Israel does), then export you once the job is done. We don't do that, and we also do nothing to stop the literal net drain illegals. Every measure in every white country shows how mass migration is a strain on our services, welfare and infrastructure. It's literally called "the great replacement" for a reason.

>Besides there's basically no one trying to leech while majority because immigrants work overtime.

It's very overstated how productive you all actually are. Especially filos, where the second generation do become little shits with attitude, something people are just starting to comment on in my country. Our high trust societies are gone now, non-whites consume welfare at rates well beyond whites. Food bank workers often tell me middle class indians and asians constantly come in pleading poverty to get free food in their BMWs. Have your read what life was like for whites before you all arrived in our societies? What non-whites have effectively taken from us. Even in poor areas you had things like "honesty boxes" where you took one box of strawberries or a newspaper and put the money in the jar, we can't have that now. Imagine trying that now, within 2-3 hours a non-white would just pull up in his car and take both the money and all the strawberries.

>I am still waiting where you tell me that wars of imperialism were fought because of altruism and not self-gain.

White people once stood over the entire world, but during the heights of global white supremacy we were often still reluctant to term things in racial terms. South Africa and Rhodesia even avoided using explicit racial terms to justify their apartheid systems. Since the 1960s we've got this mental sickness where we are committing demographic suicide.

You're in our countries, you have a chip on our shoulder, you hate us. What do you think it's like from our side where we know you'll be the demographic majority eventually? Every time my family gets a new nephew, I do think about that sort of world he'll have to live in. We have about two decades until our countries are gone forever and we're a minority.

>>287053
I wish I had an all-seeing orb that would show me if there ever was a significant number of 30+ wizards that thought this to be true in any capacity. Its so silly honestly.
>original concept of "wizard" - someone that grows in power as they age as a virgin

It was always a cope to me, a memetic idea with a cry of defiance against the demiurge at its core. Just a cope, in which I partook gladly but still..
Original wizard meme before it was absorbed by wizzies and even before it was taken by virgins was nothing grand like that. It was just a funny joke of self-deprecating kind, no doubt it stemmed from worries of the author that he simply is an adult virgin. It must be a really common type of worry for young adult man, even moreso nowadays when you look at stats.

before your post, I never would honestly consider "wizardry" as a real idea and not just an umbrella term for shared suffering. Virginity itself is non consequential. Its just a symptom of a much bigger sickness that ails us.

There are no true wizards, no true hikkis, no true scotsman.

>>287483
Nigger I ain't in your country. Besides all the cope that you just shat out makes no sense. The fact of the matter is that you need the best of our countries in your so that we suffer from brain drain. All while your states go around funding terrorism all over the planet. Destabilising our countries. Thereby helping the culture to regress and then bitching about it. Besides you started it. I doubt if there is any hatred for average white. Maybe you confuse my hatred for frat boy type snownigs vs blue collar average worker. I can say the same things about my country where your intervention on the behalf of kaboomcels caused so much misery. Chill out with muh white replacement. In future when niggerish capitalism fails countries will turn right wing. And then you will be able to at least maintain what you have. Immigration will be stopped. Besides, What do SA or Rhodesia have to do with this? Bottom line was that they were apartheid whether they said it explicitly or not. What difference does it make? By that metric, Americas, Oceania, and Africa ought not to have white people there either. Now, unlike you I will never say that you should leave that land. Cause you've been there for so long. So have been the POCs or whomever.

>>286953
Shut up, faggot.

>>286960
Okay, normalfag faggot narcissist, thanks for your input. Fuck off.

>>287148
China literally sees Flips as a slave race.
>>287149
>We've never really set out to emasculate you, and we don't really look down on you.
I have to take that with a grain of salt. Hardworking diligence doesn't necessarily pay off in the real world for the individual, nations maybe. I mean it's more believable than hearing those same words from a Jew. I'm not totally onboard with the massive worldwide conspiracy theory, but it is beyond a shadow of a doubt that the effect is the same to white populations.

If whites didn't get rich off the back of the rest of the world, their countries wouldn't be desirable destinations because there would be no economic opportunities to give away. The countries who truly don't deserve to be swamped are like Sweden which wasn't even involved. The lands taken by force by Anglos have less of a moral claim.

People don't choose who they're born as and where they're born. Westernized ethnics would not have it any better trying to civilize their cousins. There's also the fact the entire planet is white or rather Jew owned. The Americanized Pinoy is mind broken through no fault of his own, and nothing he can do as an individual will ever change that.
>>287168
I remember reading a news story about a redneck lady that actually understood white privilege. But yeah, it's the rich white men that rule the world. You get the scraps if any. But try explaining that to someone who just wants any excuse to hate whitey. Second gen immigrants and beyond who don't meet the model minority stereotype don't get any sympathy either.
>>287169
>like whites can do that because there is no race higher than them on the totem pole
This is Chad privilege.
>>287483
I want you to know that I don't have anything against you personally as a white guy. Not all nonwhites are out to get you. If I didn't have enough trouble dealing my own internal world of mental illness, I wouldn't be on this site. I doubt it means anything to you, but I've always been just and fair in my dealings with everyone of any color.

>>287138
Damn, I wish I could cry, would probably help my sinus issues. The only emotion I feel is fear. I feel it so strongly that I suppose my brain has to turn down the strength of my emotions to compensate, but that just leaves me with fear and having to fake the appropriate reactions I know I should be having. I suppose this means I am also emasculated. Men shouldn't be this fearful. I hate being a coward.

Let's face it, most wizards deserve to be alone. It's not like we bring anything to the table. Why would anyone want us around? Most of us aren't even employed. Get used to it or rope, there's no happy ending.

>>287742
"Deserve" lmao. you're not supposed to "bring" anything to the table to have access to basic things like having friends or girlfriend. It's supposed to be the flow of life. We're not talking about getting an olympic medal here just to have basic shit in our lives.

I feel lonely maybe once a year for a morning, I mean the actual physical feeling. If these dudes actually feel that all day every day I feel them, weird feeling. It doesn’t really bother me though, even when it happens I just let it pass. Loneliness I don’t struggle with but I have an OK family.

>>287794
>"Deserve" lmao. you're not supposed to "bring" anything to the table to have access to basic things like having friends or girlfriend.
The way succubi talk, you very much do need to "bring" something. But then again I've seen too many of them with absolute loser men who are actively draining them for that to be true so I don't know what to think.

>>287796
nah its only fair that gfs have standards. but its fucking crazy there are standards to have male friends

>>287794
indeed, it's mostly bullshit platitudes that normalfags use to put the blame on you. "You need to improve to have friends" Only other failed normalfags buy their bullsnhit.

>>286952
Yeah I felt really sad and miserable as I got closer to 30. Then my birthday hit, I woke up as a 30 year old virgin and I just shrugged my shoulders and carried on. Nothing changed.

Which is to say that the loneliness still stings as does the fact that my mortality is shrinking as I get older year by year and watch my already ugly face get more gaunt and tired. It's just the way it is. If it bothers you then do something about it. Otherwise continue as you are.