at what age did you realize that friendship only exists between normalfags and that low value men hate each other's company and will stop being friends the moment a better and more normal life is offered to them or a female shows interest in them?
I had just one friend growing up and I was happy it wasn't anything great but we shared good moments playing online videogames, visiting each other, etc. Now that was 15 years ago i am already in my 30s, and although it was fun I felt like I couldn't be my true self around him, like he didn't get that we both were losers so we were never on the same level.
I've done so much introspection that I'm fully aware of how things work out among loser males. It's a different mindset and I'm not even angry, after all, everyone wants better for them.
This friend got married to a female that's fat as a beached whale, a really obese succubus that's disgusting to look at and so we stop seeing each other. I've seen him a few years ago and his offspring is no different from this succubus, he has 1 boy and 1 succubus, both fat, the guy looks just like he did when he was young if you remove the fat I guess… And this is what I mean when I think that if all options stink, it's better to just be a wiz rather than living a miserable life, but it's in the mindset ultimately. Some people will play the normalfag game and ignore everything, they are barely any more conscious than dogs. I always thought it's interesting how some people are just this written characters and nothing you do or say will change them so you can predict the outcomes.
I know because of how I look I will forever be seen as inferior. I am not smart, I am not athletic, I am not funny either, and I am boring and look boring. I didn't suffer for it because I was always in my mind a loner at heart and introspective. I know some of you have autism but I don't, I am just this way because at some point I got too tired of human relationships and wanted to be left alone.
Unlike me, normalfags benefit each other from friendship and being in a group, it's actually shocking how different their lives are, and I couldn't keep up with that even if I tried, having to communicate with someone every week will drive me nuts, it's a responsibility, friendship that is.
I am content with this life but it's weird how much I differ from others and the things I've learnt along the way are unique.
I honestly dont understand how normies can Have sex with obese succubi. To keep up The facade that she is attractive fo decades. Impossible For me. Like a succubus doesnt Have to Have perfect DD titties but 270+ lbs succubi dont constitute as humans to me
I'm not an antinatalist but I think losers and mentally ill people shouldn't procreate. It is just cruel to create another generation of people who will suffer. If you are fat you are clearly not fully healthy emotionally or physically and to raise a fat child is abuse. Fat people have lots of disadvantages and worse outcomes in life. The children eat what their parents give them, so it is 100% on them if their children are fat. He will also probably fail as a father, be emotionally distant, not give advice, never teach his son how to be a man because he never learned these things himself and he thought maybe being a father would teach him, but nope, so now he's just pretending and doing the bare minimum to go through the motions as a man and a father. Barely performing with minimal effort in low-grade depression, resenting his fat wife and stupid fat kids which make him a slave to his stupid fat boss. There are many people like this in America living quiet lives of despair, just trying to hold things together to appear normal to everyone while being basically dead inside.
there are 8+ billion fuckin people, last thing world needs is more people,
anyways, to Op s main point,
yea, ive accepted i am an unwanted social reject recluse. i would even be shunned by so called odd balls, nerds, weirdos, D&D crew, etc…
i was too weird for the odd ball cliques.
and often would hear norm fucks say odd people should pal around. it seems logical.
But, what i found is usually people like us dont like to be around people like ourselves. it reminds us, certainly me, of my miserable life. We do want is to be accepted by people rejected us, and a momentary wiff of that and yes off one of us runs to it.
>>287368 >yea, ive accepted i am an unwanted social reject recluse. i would even be shunned by so called odd balls, nerds, weirdos, D&D crew, etc… why do you think was that? did they ever mention something to you as to why they didn't like your company
>>287396 sorry, virgin bro. Hope things get better for you in the future, or at least you find some comfort, peace, and happiness in solitary hobbies away from normalfags
I read friendship is a dying form of social bond across all ages for both men and succubi. Something to do with the internet blablabla. You can find tons of article with a simple google search.
>>287731 >plenty, look for loneliness epidemic >loneliness epidemic plenty of normalfags especially modern females who are self centered, dramatic, and needy attentionwhores and social media users feel "lonely" despite having hundreds of friends and a supporting family and even romantic partners. They do have friends. But these whores are neurotic and mentally ill and get depressed when things don't go their way despite already having a good life.
Don't bring up that bullshit about succubi feeling "lonely" because it's all crap and it has zero to do with friendship.
>>287732 The loneliness epidemic is a primarily male issue. Those "neurotic social media whores" you're so concerned with make a shit ton of videos being dismissive of it and saying there is no epidemic because they get railed by ten guys every weekend and get thousands of people begging for their attention on social media.
>>287733 You don't get it. There are normalfags feeling lonely and having anxiety attacks and they have friends, sex, and gfs, some are even dads and perfectly well adjusted adult males that just feel like they don't connect with other men so they feel "lonely" It's all bullshit and not even remotely close to what wizards experience in life.
it's wise to stay away from "fellow" social outcasts because not all are ostracized unfairly due to their asocial nature, some are rightfully marginalized because they're anti-social, abusive and dangerous people
tryin to be social w/ fellow outcasts almost never works, as i said above, we dont want to socialize w/ ourselves, we want to socialize w/ people who rejected us
>>287761 That's funny, considering physical ugliness (along with shortness) one of the leading causes of a male actually becoming a wizard.
Not the only cause, but a huge cause that puts a male on the path to wizarddom that starts from a very early age and tons of negative reinforcement from both genders.
I had one childhood friend I grew up with and the whole dynamic of our friendship was based on us being losers and we had nothing else in common. We hung out for over a decade but never had any actual conversation because we both were socially retarded and never experiended shit but instead just rotted away. As soon as he had the opportunity to get to know other people I didn't see him as much. There was friction here and there and it was always a bitchy type thing between us since no one was assertive or spoke his mind and the friendship immediately evaporated after and argument we had like it never existed.
Ive seen the same phenomenon with other losers who hang out together, it's a cope friendship based on being losers and not on mutual interests.
exactly, we dont really have anything in common besides us being outcasts. And our presence to eac other just reminds us of our status. and as i said above, moment one of us gets accepted by people we really wanted to talk to its over.
>>287773 I realised I was just coping for years with my so-called loser friends. They weren't real, physical friends mind you. Just people on the internet. I tried really hard to form some kind of connection with them but it didn't go anywhere. I was so terminally afraid of being alone or isolated that I didn't want to lose connections to people who I believed were JUST like me! 4channers, same age, same taste in games etc One by one they fell off. An argument would go too far. They'd simply vanish or remove me from their life out of the blue and sometimes it just faded away through a lack of conversation for one reason or another. I spent so much time trying to make friendships work. Years of my life even. And what did I have to show for it in the end? Nothing. A friendship solely based online can be erased with a single click of a button and it's like you and they just stop existing. The realisation that I was alone was like a breath of fresh air. I could finally stop worrying about other people. Completely anonymous strangers on the internet serve better as a social output. It's just a shame that year by year it becomes harder to find any real meaningful conversation through image boards…
sorry friend. yea, your post pretty much sums up my 20s. i tried , really tried, to form connections, force connections. people just didnt want me around, and i refused to accept it. no matter what i did i was always: just the ugly weird creepy guy. people dont need me around, there s always someone around not a 2/10 , not hard of course, not fucked up socially, not stuck w/ decades of bad life experiences. hell, i couldnt even make online friends.
im tempted to just move out to some weird place out in the woods, and disappear. But, im into these abandoned buildin explorer vids. occasionally one will come up, and i can tell must of been someone exactly like me, no friends, no family, no nobody, weird stuff went down and now just a weird old abandoned place full of weird old junk. Ask people in area, yea, some creepy old dude lived there alone, no one knows what went down, people stay cause its weird,
>>287867 >A friendship solely based online can be erased with a single click of a button and it's like you and they just stop existing. As opposed to what?
29yo apprentice, never had friends even online. I use Twitch as an ersatz of a social life, but even streamers eventually drop the friendly facade and seem to be annoyed by me after a while even doe I'm polite and don't talk much to not draw attention on me.
I guess even online, people can sense my mana level. It pains me to say it, but I am undesirable.
>>287874 I do the same. Sometimes I watch the russian "supersus" who visits abandoned places with his friends. And I wish it was me. I wish i could go on an adventure with friends too.
word of advice , yea dont get attached to streamers twitcers watever the fuck. its just a job. and believe you me, they talk crap about people like us. yea, want our money, but are Paranoid we will obsess on em and not leave. fuck that, dont spend one second inflatin some cunts ego.
as to urban explores. its better to watch than do. people do it, and dont realize, fucked their self up from mold , asbestos, and weirder stuff.
>>287874 >>287867 Every time I tried to get social online it ended up with me being the undersocialized cringe retard who talks to a wall while everyone else just talks about memes and ignores me. I'm also always the forgettable autist that no one gives a fuck about because im not an interesting person at all and rather boring. I got lolcowed pretty bad some years ago which showed me that socializing online is a bad idea if you don't know about the normies social mindgames.
Its pretty much the same irl tbh, I never knew anyone who didn't exploit me for laughs or money and everyone else just ignores me.
Its a cold world and you can't expect to find this wholesome thing with anyone except maybe your parents if they don't suck.
>>287923 >>287945 >>287909 Never expected I'd fall for this, but I did, at least 4 or 5 times without even realizing, mainly with small streamers, not a random dude playing games, but on Software and Game Development. Always avoided big streamers because is pointless, explicit they are faking for the money, bad playing, carried my chat or friends, always trying to say something funny, and guess what, smalls are doing that like crazy too. This starts like "we like the same things, we are so similar, I could be friend of this guy", even more if he lives at same state or close until eventually develops a one-sided pseudo-bond because he's forced to talk with the only bastard posting on chat, but they literally can't see the chat as people. To be fair, it's the health thing to do and having so much information the brain just deletes stuff, blame loners for being easily exploitable. Anyway, I don't watch streams anymore, at beginning was a novelty to see how people actually code games, advanced stuff, etc but it's boring now
>>287987 >Anyway, I don't watch streams anymore, at beginning was a novelty to see how people actually code games, advanced stuff, etc but it's boring now Also because Twitch is really spamming ads and the gaming streamers are really scummy running ads with a smirk (just after it you can expect an ad) and pretending to be idiots over the chat crying and pretending is all Twitch fault for the 1 minute ad spamming every 3 minutes and also managed to get away with poor shaming selling for cultists like a joke "just stop being poor and drop a prime, bro", just like Youtubers conditioned zoomers to "help the youtuber/streamer". Another thing, when the parasocial thing got popular, the same scummy who pushed "we are family, I love you" quickly did a disclaimer "we are not friends, I'm not your friend, chat. Now back to gaming, family. I love you, chat".
my problem w/ streamers, besides hating them, and assuming they are all garbage.
i picture the conversation they d be makin about me to their fellow Norm Scum.: Yea, umm i have this devoted follower. o? yea, likes all my content, sends money, is supportive. Wow WEIRD. i know rite! So fuckin creeeeepPPPA!!!
No fuckin way, not even one time. the concept is predatory and lookin to scam men Exactly Like Us out of money. and makes me furious.
>>287990 not all streamers are garbage. you have the wrong approach. I occasionally watch some streamers after I beat a game just out of curiosity because I wonder how other people work things out in a level or if they got stuck in the same part as I did, etc. same logic with speedrunners, I'm curious as to how the fuck can someone finish a game that took me 8 or more hours. You don't have to interact with them in chat to gain something in return.
>>287990 >>288011 >>288053 Never pay anyone money for anything. Colllect all mone for resource acquisition. Remember, the more you spend on others, the more you elevate them over you. Life is a fierce competition for resources, never waste them trivially
>>287362 >I honestly dont understand how normies can Have sex with obese succubi They likely don't. Being obese kills your sex drive and I'm willing to bet that is the case for 90% of the "dead bedrooms" we keep hearing about. I feel like obesity is a SEVERLY underrated talking point when describing the ills of the modern world. Obesity is something that greatly affects your physical, spiritual, and mental wellbeing. It makes you tired, angry, easy to manipulate, chronically sick, and selfish. It is one of the many factors of why succubi are so insane nowadays. The really crazy ones have a protruding gut that they tuck in their spandex wasteband.
>>287365 Fatties drive me fucking crazy because I'd give anything to change my height or facial structure. I'd drag my balls through shattered glass to gain an inch of height. We hear a lot about "self improvement", but these are the people who can ACTUALLY do something to improve. But they don't because they are fucked in the head. Disgusting.
>>288282 >Fatties drive me fucking crazy because I'd give anything to change my height or facial structure. I'd drag my balls through shattered glass to gain an inch of height lol, I doubt it. You're coping because you can't change the things you don't like so it's not "your fault" and you can wallow in your self pity.
True ugliness is really really rare. If men dont want to be friends with you its because you dont share the same interests or arent a braindead normie like them.
succubi just see average men as 3/10. It doesnt mean 3/10 man is common. I almost never see a guy that is objectively as ugly as for example a 5'5 man is short.
Being fat and unkempt isnt the same as being ugly.
Just had one of my last few online friends cut me off. In his own words I'm annoying and a headache. All because, god forbid, I'd ask him to play games. In reality he was too much of a social butterfly with lots of other friends he valued above me and my constant hounding to play video games only to be rejected became too much for him to put up with. It's not the first time this has happened but it's very off-putting when my value to people is so low that even this happens.
>>287360 >>287362 >I honestly dont understand how normies can Have sex with obese succubi same, it's crazy the amount of friends who fell for obese whale with no self-esteem because they were scared to be lonely
>>288408 >same, it's crazy the amount of friends who fell for obese whale with no self-esteem because they were scared to be lonely
Witnessed a couple guys going for succubi with low self-esteem or BPD and it never turned out well for them. I never understood why some people trade loneliness for a weird cope relationship with another person who is equally fucked up and makes everything worse by adding a huge list of new problems to their life. Some normies waste years with a person they don't even truly like just to not be alone or to feel validated by others. Some peoples lives consist of 80% social drama which could be avoided if they were more stoic but I guess they depend on that stuff.
You are needy. You crave it. Normalfag neurotypical sensor can detect it. That is why you fail at friendship. You basically need friends to make friends. I ceased most human interaction. Only forced remains. Sometimes I write crap to chans. But mostly it's me time. I have given up. And that is why, paradoxically, I sometimes have to avoid needy people like you. I have no needs. But you have them. You want to drink water from my well.