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 No.288210

Maybe they're right all along.
Whenever im forced to interact with normalfags, it feels like theyre finding me repulsive and looking at me in a sense of disgust or hate. that they sense that there has to be something truly wrong with me that i cannot sense or fully comprehend my self, it feels all the faults about my self that i already can see is confirmed by others, but there is something they sense more about me than my self. it feels all these people who mentally tormented me all these years were right, because they are all living their lives now surrounded by family and friends while im here left to rot in my own prison. theyve won and ive lost, but whenever i try to join their normalfag world just to stop taking so many L's in life, copy their mannerism and speak like them, it comes out as unnatural or forced and i end up feeling exhausted then isolating my self from society even more, because that would never work, they would still be able to see through me no matter what and they can all sense of how much of a loser I am. Whenever i share any of my interests or thoughts it feels like i am humilating my self.

 No.288211

We are in some aspects, inferior.
But the key is that you never chose to be inferior, it just happened to you, so there is no point in blaming yourself.

Some people were just meant to be part of no group.

 No.288214

>Maybe they're right all along.
If we're talking philosophically, they are wrong on almost every aspect of life.
If we're talking biologically, we might be "wrong", but only in the same way that a handicapped person has "wrong" skills compared to a non-disabled person.

>theyve won

They didn't win anything, they are suffering like every human being (it's the nature of the humankind) and then they are going to die of old age. They're suffering a bit less than you because they are engaging in normalfaggy distractions, that's all.

>whenever i try to join their normalfag world just to stop taking so many L's in life, copy their mannerism and speak like them, it comes out as unnatural or forced and i end up feeling exhausted then isolating my self from society even more

Of course. You are not supposed to force yourself into the fake standards and illusions of normalfaggy society.

 No.288216

Wizards are superior in every aspect

 No.288230

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I used to consider myself superior to normies because I used to be interested in science, philosophy, and politics.

Then I understood: normies aren’t interested in intellectual stuff because they’re too busy fucking.

I am not above the fight, I simply lost it. In fact my high interested were likely just a cope to start with…

Now Im not even interested in anything anymore…

 No.288233

>inferior
>ive lost

You are only these things if you believe them. Life is not a game. You can't win or lose. The only person you should be accountable to is yourself. If you are happy with yourself because you fulfilled the standards you set yourself everyone can call you a loser and it will bounce off you.

>>288230
How do you define "normie"? Pretty much all scientists and philosophers, even the pessimistic ones, had sex.

 No.288234

>>288230
I have wondered if normies could outcompete me in my own intellectual spheres, if only there was financial/ social reward in it.

Well a lot of STEM topics there is financial reward but normies can't handle it

 No.288235

>>288234
Your own intellectual sphere does not involve math, anon. The normie to wizard ratio makes it virtually certain you don't need to wonder if they could outcompete you. They can.

 No.288236

>>288235
Only the STEMlads are on a mountain high enough to escape the normie tide

 No.288237

No quicker way to tell someone isn’t in STEM than by seeing they think it’s full of Teslas and Sheldons.

 No.288238

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I was trying to find that chart of STEM virgins but all I found is this, from an all womyn's college

 No.288239

>>288238
>studio art
>0
Lol, lmao

 No.288240

> There is a stereotype that MIT is a land of asexual nerds. That’s not quite true. Our survey found that 42 percent of students consider themselves virgins: 37 percent of men and 48 percent of succubi. The numbers are predictably higher for freshman class, which is 64 percent virgins: 60 percent of men and 69 percent of succubi. The freshmen numbers square with national estimates — it’s the upperclassmen who are having less sex than the national average for their age group.

https://thetech.com/2009/10/30/survey-v129-n49

 No.288241

>>288238
I mean Hillary's alma mater, an allgirls college is practically a nunnery, so even history is over 60% virgin.

 No.288244

>>288233
Thats precisely the issue. Normies CAN be intellecutal too. Saying intellectual = nerd was a massive cope I had. That was my point. At my uni all the students (except one) that were top of the class were also massive chads/stacies, while I was wooden spoon.

 No.288250

>>288238
>>288241
The trouble with surveys of womyn schools is that they never clarify that lesbian sex is still virginity loss, anal sex is still virginity loss, oral sex is still virginity loss, and doing oral sex things with another succubus's oral sex hole is still virginity loss. There are certain mental gymnastics that womyn perform on the subject for reasons that completely elude me.

 No.288251

>>288250
well we're more concerned with the relative over absolute %, and while some things are different from male, STEM being high is still a trend

 No.288265

>>288244
Are zoomers just dumber as a whole? Cos this wasn't the case in my years at uni. All the top achievers (of STEM) were of a certain type, not to say they were all wizards but they weren't social butterflies. The *successful* students on the other hand mostly got middling grades but they weren't there for the course but for the networking because they knew where to go, who to meet, what friends to make in order to move on up.

 No.288274

>>288230
>Then I understood: normies aren’t interested in intellectual stuff because they’re too busy fucking.

I understand that you are a crab and contrary to the majority of this board I have no hate for you, I don't despise crabs, I understand those like you.
However you should really re-evaluate what sex means.
Also, statistics say people nowadays are fucking less and less, everyone is falling into nihilism and depression.
Having sex is extremely overrated, it's more boring than masturbation unless there is the illusion of love helping with additional emotions, but that's, again, an illusion, which you can't have if you have a wizard mind.

You didn't lose any fight, you understood that the rat race is pointless. Enjoy the thought of that and stop being crab-minded.

 No.288317

If you think about it socializing is actually the hardest level of STEM because atoms in motion of physics thats simple peanuts compared to atoms organize into a brain and interacting with other brains. The hard sciences are actually the simplest sciences and that's why the most progress is made there.

 No.288320

>>288317
retarded take.

 No.288321

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>>288230
>>288244
They were never true to their beliefs or hobbies but did so to fill the void and the need to be active in some way, most people with niche or impractical pursuits slow down or give up on them once they get a job. Once they're faced with the reality of working and bills they stop giving a shit and get cheap dopamine hits from watching cartoons or jacking off at the end of the day, only few still keep up because they truly cared and didn't want to coast by on life. And it's not inherently faking interest, how many would give a shit about what you said if societies weren't reaching breaking points or doctors were trustworthy.
>In fact my high interested were likely just a cope to start with
You ever met or heard stories about two guys being great friends with the same interests then one gets a girlfriend and does a reversal in his personality?
>Saying intellectual = nerd was a massive cope
I've known this from a fairly young age, said it multiple times across the years, got tons of shit for it, and have no one to say I told you so to now so it doesn't matter.
>too busy fucking
Oops I thought you said too fucking busy, oh well.
>>288265
>Are zoomers just dumber as a whole?
Yes. Even the intelligent ones are "dumb" as high IQ isn't much without values, culture and character, they're good worker bees.

 No.288322

>>288274
>However you should really re-evaluate what sex means.
Also, statistics say people nowadays are fucking less and less, everyone is falling into nihilism and depression.
Having sex is extremely overrated, it's more boring than masturbation unless there is the illusion of love helping with additional emotions, but that's, again, an illusion, which you can't have if you have a wizard mind.

Very important point made here. It's easy to get deluded when one is mostly on the internet but the whole sex stuff is not even as rampant as it seems. Theres a vocal minority that has a high sex partner count but most people don't even fuck around like that and the average lifetime "bodycount" is still at around 4-8 (for succubi more on the higher end). Theres also the increasing demographic of men and even succubi in their 20s who never even had sex. The casual sex stuff is also a bubble, most people don't even have casual sex and prefer to only have sex in a relationship. If you've been around casual sex havers you're gonna notice that casual sex really is just meaningless noise linked to more social bullshit than anything good. Modern culture is infected with pornography which caused a lot of damage in general but that doesnt mean that most people sleep around.

 No.288794

>>288214
I agree. who knows what stresses the normals have. I dont want to sound like Im saying "because you feel bad that means others can also feel bad le empathy style", but cconsider the social infighting they they could be having to preserve their ego, or to fufill some sense of achievement thats been impressed onto them. drama, backstabbing, belittling others on a lower rung while being belittled. they have their own problems that are arguably worse than ours since its intertwined in this grand play called society.

 No.288802

>>288322
Not to mention most guys *can't* sleep around no matter how much they want to.

A very small minority of men is good looking enough to constantly pull succubi for one night stands from Tinder or bars.

The vast majority of men have to buck up cash to their wives or girlfriends to tolerate them, or the final alternative is bucking up hundreds of dollars to an escort for the very desperate.

 No.288811

do normal people have better life memories from the time they spent socializing?
i often see in movies and tv that normalfags are very fond of the first time they kissed, asked a succubus out, went on a date, cuddle, make out, had sex, etc. or spent a nice evening with friends getting drunk
also it's not just one time, like i don't know what touching a succubus you love feels like or being reciprocated and im going to be 40 in a few years.
It's a common theme, sex, romance, friendship, the most common things in all media.
I assume it's something that touches people on such an intimate level that it must be great.

 No.288812

I'd argue normalfags have better and more rich memories because they are actively living and going out, therefore have more fulfilling memories which makes them be more fond of life and wanting to reproduce.

 No.288813

>>288811
seems to be true. I cant relate to it either

 No.288833

>>288811
First sexual experiences IRL are generally embarrassing and not particularly special. Movies are super fake in that regard.
People crave intimate connections and movies give you that ideal in the form of entertainment, but reality is way duller.

 No.288834

>>288833
>First sexual experiences
I remember my first masturbation being amazing, I was in heaven for a while. normalfags growing up all loved having sex from what I recall, I mean that was their motivation to go partying and dressing nice, etc. to make out with succubi and then have sex. They all love it and those who say their first time sucked always come back for more, don't they? they keep having sex.

 No.288893

>>288834
>They all love it and those who say their first time sucked always come back for more, don't they? they keep having sex.
Of course. That's the part where I say the keep craving the thing. But it's an illusion, it's an ideal reinforced by movies. Reality is actually boring, and after sex they can't wait to go do something else because they always need to distract themselves with something

 No.288910

>>288893
> Reality is actually boring
lot of people disagree with that notion. For them life is full of adventure and fun, at least till a certain age.

 No.288911

>>288893
Typical cope invented in your mind, with zero life experience to back it. But if an illusion helps you cope, keep it up. It's all you have.

 No.288915

>>288911
Ok crab.

 No.291480

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>>288210
>Whenever im forced to interact with normalfags, it feels like theyre finding me repulsive and looking at me in a sense of disgust or hate
Being smug this usually works for me.

>there is something more they sense about me

Actually, there is something about them YOU do not sense. And too bad for us!

>it feels all these people who mentally tormented me all these years were right, because they are all living their lives now surrounded by family and friends while im here left to rot in my own prison

If you play by normie standards, they shit you down. No games here!

>but whenever i try to join their normalfag world just to stop taking so many L's in life, copy their mannerism and speak like them, it comes out as unnatural or forced and i end up feeling exhausted then isolating my self from society even more, because that would never work, they would still be able to see through me no matter what and they can all sense of how much of a loser I am. Whenever i share any of my interests or thoughts it feels like i am humilating my self.

YOu should know! They are not to be engaged! Aren't they despicable for they do to you? For what they make you feel? That's enough! Isolate on purpose, be unpolitely private! Ghost whoever does not seems pretty perfect or fitting for your desires! Indeed you are loser, but for chasing them non-stop.

Play an opposite game. Count the world as your enemy and start living more like a prepper, like a paranoid man. Normies are a fatal enemy and you should be lifting, acquiring weapons, etc… instead of studying how to fit in.
Study how to wage war, in every sense you may conceive it.

 No.291481

>>288911
Yeah, we already know he just hit the target, go elsewhere to put some oil on your wound. Keep your crab legs away from here.

 No.291502

>>291480
that triangle makes a lot of sense

 No.291504

>>291480
Based "if you can't join them, beat them" strategist.

 No.291528

>>291480
I'd say don't lower yourself in a contest where you have no advantage and or capable of being defeated. Rather show them your spiritual superiority. They will never be able to achieve any spiritual power in their lives ever. Beat them there and revel in your victory!

 No.291541

>>291528
That's how you get ridiculized far worse.
>normalfag poster alert

 No.291552

>>291541
>ridiculized
What is their hollow sound produced from their soulless throats to you? Spit on them and go on. Yeah that's ultra hard but well, that's kinda the perfection I'd like to achieve.

 No.291570


 No.291607

Kek does anyone else suffers from the opposite?
Most normalfags around me do things like raves, drugs, alcohol, clubbing, and shiet.
I personally feel superior to them, I think that I try to be rational and not a faggot. I think that dancing is a primitive activity.
I believe that people who go to places like nightclubs are animals and intellectually and philosophically retarded. I believe that the US government should use these places as target practises for testing new weaponry.

 No.291609

>>291607
I don't agree with you, but I feel your post and personally my inclinations lean towards your post rather than OPpost. Violence is not an option, but being a monkey such as them is disgusting as well.

 No.291675

>>291541
Unless passively done. But that works when your are just being mocked, not bullied
>>291552
What I meant is not that, they will mock all the same. It's just the fact of us being petulant what humilliates us. So I said (remembering my past experiences) better if passively done. Like dropping shit carelessly upon them, and they seethe, oh boy.

 No.291676

the moment you try and compare, you're in for a bad time. Normies do not experience the sort of hardships most people on this site have and are also generally pretty stupid.

>>288230
a relationship takes dozens of hours out of a normie schedule and the demands are escalating. People also get trapped by social acceptability with the succubus and instead of researching topics spend their time trying to be amusing or funny to get sex.

>>291607
People who use drugs are just inferior. There is ample evidence on this, even the ones who moderate.

>>291480
Yep. I think the issues start when normies begin transitioning into "autism"

 No.291680

>>291676
>People who use drugs are just inferior. There is ample evidence on this, even the ones who moderate.
Do me a favor give me this fucking evidence. I can't imagine why one would do drugs. My life has been a wreck, why do I never feel the desire to drug myself? Why do I not want to get drunk? Why do I return to /dep/ again and again, and while feeling all this seemingly unbearable pain that drives me suicidal, I still do not want to drug myself. What the fuck is the difference?

 No.291681

>>291680
Which thing pains you, man?

 No.291684

>>291681
That's the problem, I never get to figure out what. The pain is just there, constantly. Lately I've given up bothering. Just take my doze of lament and get done with it.

 No.291686

>>291680
I can't remember where I saw it (wikipedia, one of the technical pages), but the personality correlates for lifetime drug abuse are extroversion, openess, agreeableness, low conscientiousness, higher neuroticism. People who sort of resemble Labrador retrievers except kind of wonky. It's the exact same deal as people who get tattoos or exhibit other impulse seeking, vaguely counter-cultural behaviors. Plenty of crimscience texts describe a robust relationship between "life problems" and drug use, probably because the underlying personality type who gets into this sort of thing is more prone to taking risks. Of course any sort of illegal recreational drug is bad for your system, with compounding issues.

So the opposite of a drug seeking personality is low extroversion, low openness, low agreeableness, high conscientiousness, low neuroticism. Probably not all of this describe the average person here, but introversion seems more representative of a "self contained biotype" with less need for external stimulation to attain fulfillment, and of course low agreeableness is pretty easy to get from the behaviors associated with internet use…. high dopa personality If I recall

 No.291687

>>291686
Do you know what statistical correlations are? Do you know that statistics are only valid when applied to the population that is sampled? Wizards are outliers. A study on normalfags can't be applied to us and cant tell you anything on an individual level.

I am sure that highly introverted, mentally ill populations would also have a higher correlation toward using drugs. The core issue is that people self-medicate when they suffer more than normal and deviate from the normalfag society. Illegal drug users are outcasts, and outcasts tend to be worse at "succeeding" at normalfag metrics.

 No.291700

>>291684
Use the emergency gate, bruh: https://www.holotropic.com/holotropic-breathwork/about-holotropic-breathwork/

I do not dare to pay such a big sum but I wonder, will it be too dangerous if I try this just by myself under untrained supervision?

 No.291702

>>291687
I don't agree with your assessment, but I do agree with 291686.

Most wizards I've talked to are almost absolutists, i.e. they don't use any kind of intoxicants. If they do it's the rare beer or glass of whiskey or something not intended to get you drunk.

I've also noticed many if not most neurodivergents are really against intoxication.
Normies are the ones fueling drug and alcohol consumption.

 No.291703

>>291700
>breathing
Sorry, but I am very skeptical about claims such as
>Holotropic Breathwork® is a powerful approach to self-exploration and personal empowerment that relies on our innate inner wisdom and its capacity to move us toward positive transformation and wholeness.
and as much as I'd like to, I can't perceive them as anything but shameless scam. I have no idea what will happen to you if you try to breathe, nor do I care. You can try breathing and then report to us if that helped. On a glance, it seems like it might be dangerous, because air contains many viruses and bacteria, and if you breathe, you let them in.

>>291702
I have never been able to make any such estimates, but it might make sense that wizards are more sided with spiritual search, while unwizards are more sided with sensory seeking. I indeed consider sensory seeking to be inferior and I am indeed never did so much as hold hands with the demons. The only pitfall here is that I can not coherently explain my point of view and it seems to exist on somewhat implicit level. I remember a lainon saying that a typical depressed lainon is a male otaku crazed on the basis of having waifu and addicted to using a buttplug. Then I come here and watch people obsessed with hating particular demographics, obsessing over succubi, social statuses, lookism, who call themselves wizards and fight for their lives to defend this title. Aye, sorry, but I can't help, but feeling sorry for these guys. A soul-crushed man with his face in tears, who nonetheless does not lower himself to that is understandable and forgivable. Turning yourself into an animal isn't.

 No.291710

>>291703
You used all those to say that breathing is unhygienic?

I am having a boring day, too

 No.291711

>>291703
you can use it to hallucinate. It's a real thing

 No.292205

>>288210
>they can all sense of how much of a loser I am. Whenever i share any of my interests or thoughts it feels like i am humilating my self.
No wonder. You want to be accepted without even looking deeper at how much stupid they are, you sell yourself away out of stupid despair.

Just stop being a failed normalfag, embrace wizdom.

>>288233
Tesla was a virgin who disregarded even marriage



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