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I can not stand it anymore. I'm done. I don't know what to do. It's over for me. My whole will be shit and then I'd die and finally I'd be at peace.
When you think about your life, you must think the whole thing (your 40s, 50s, 60s, etc…). A thing that young people (29 and less) don't do.
secretly, your parents still believe in you. You just want to be cool. Are we posers?
When you think about your life, you must think the whole thing (your 40s, 50s, 60s, etc…). A thing that young people (29 and less) don't do.
secretly, your parents still believe in you. You just want to be cool. Are we posers?
>>292824
What is the meaning of even wanting to be cool or being a poser at this point ? The end goal that we have submerged into ourselves have became unclear and we're just living and thinking that we're living, But the problem is we are not content with what we have so we strive for an illusionary Endgoal that it automatically becomes a Mean when we're done with it.
I don't know anon but I know deep down within you that you want to remove celibacy but you were unfortunate and that's why you want to find resonance, Unconsciously trying to stir up emotions of love and longing away from your core in order to portray a "I don't give a fuck about love" outter image but deep down within you want to.
But still you must understand that love is not essential in life, It's only a means, we must treat a person as an endgoal rather than treating them as a means for our endgoal, Why do you think your life is over ? Have you been mutiliated ? Are you dying of excruciating pain ? Are you living in India or some remote 3rd world country ? Are you living in 1979 Cambodia ? Are yo so poor that you cannot afford food ?
I don't think the problem is that you must see others as a means to justify your happiness but to see that others are accepting their lives and fighting through the pain of life that was presented through them, They are struggling and they're not wasting their life away unlike people who are completely blindedsighted on the gift that they posses.
the Modern world makes people think that they wasted their whole life but in realtiy it's just the beginning whether you're 40 or 30 or 20 because in every day there is a beginning until you die.
What is the meaning of even wanting to be cool or being a poser at this point ? The end goal that we have submerged into ourselves have became unclear and we're just living and thinking that we're living, But the problem is we are not content with what we have so we strive for an illusionary Endgoal that it automatically becomes a Mean when we're done with it.
I don't know anon but I know deep down within you that you want to remove celibacy but you were unfortunate and that's why you want to find resonance, Unconsciously trying to stir up emotions of love and longing away from your core in order to portray a "I don't give a fuck about love" outter image but deep down within you want to.
But still you must understand that love is not essential in life, It's only a means, we must treat a person as an endgoal rather than treating them as a means for our endgoal, Why do you think your life is over ? Have you been mutiliated ? Are you dying of excruciating pain ? Are you living in India or some remote 3rd world country ? Are you living in 1979 Cambodia ? Are yo so poor that you cannot afford food ?
I don't think the problem is that you must see others as a means to justify your happiness but to see that others are accepting their lives and fighting through the pain of life that was presented through them, They are struggling and they're not wasting their life away unlike people who are completely blindedsighted on the gift that they posses.
the Modern world makes people think that they wasted their whole life but in realtiy it's just the beginning whether you're 40 or 30 or 20 because in every day there is a beginning until you die.
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>>292825
I JUST WANT SOMEONE SAVE MY SOUL!!!!!!!
I JUST WANT SOMEONE SAVE MY SOUL!!!!!!!
>>292828
You know you're the only one who can save your soul if you want to, I can't guarantee you that you can find a person but i guarantee you that people close to you like you.
Take a listen to this lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz7qj3MteS0&ab_channel=MatthewSweetVEVO
You know you're the only one who can save your soul if you want to, I can't guarantee you that you can find a person but i guarantee you that people close to you like you.
Take a listen to this lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz7qj3MteS0&ab_channel=MatthewSweetVEVO
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>>292828
LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF
LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF
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>>292831
NP Bud
NP Bud
>>292824
If you mean about trying to fit in the normie world, you are amongst the most pathetic, lost posers ever
If you mean about trying to fit in the normie world, you are amongst the most pathetic, lost posers ever
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>>292842
ok..I just wanted to know what he meant by this
ok..I just wanted to know what he meant by this
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anyone who regret insulting their parents when younger? I do. I'm not proud of it
>>292853
ha! i never insulted my parents. was scared of dad tbh. don't care about it now, maybe it was good actually. people who come down to insult tend to be not very intelligent
ha! i never insulted my parents. was scared of dad tbh. don't care about it now, maybe it was good actually. people who come down to insult tend to be not very intelligent
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>>292868
I know, are you smart?
I know, are you smart?
>>292870
>are you smart?
I wish I were, but as it happens I'm probably not. I refuse to believe it's hindrance for happiness though.
>are you smart?
I wish I were, but as it happens I'm probably not. I refuse to believe it's hindrance for happiness though.
>>292871
I hope it is not. if it is then people with profound retardation can't be happy. I guess being in the norm (for IQ) is perfect to enjoy life and understand it
I hope it is not. if it is then people with profound retardation can't be happy. I guess being in the norm (for IQ) is perfect to enjoy life and understand it
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>go on 4chan /int/ archives
>search albanian
>is the most hated nation on /int/
I feel bad now, no one likes us
>search albanian
>is the most hated nation on /int/
I feel bad now, no one likes us
>>292868
If a selfpitying man comes across any of you trashing himself, you better take his word and deal with him according to it, before he gets to prove how much right he was about himself, by trashing you.
If a selfpitying man comes across any of you trashing himself, you better take his word and deal with him according to it, before he gets to prove how much right he was about himself, by trashing you.
>>292897
the point of trashing people is to snap them back into reality. it's painful for them in the beginning but is better in long term than catering to the self pity.
the point of trashing people is to snap them back into reality. it's painful for them in the beginning but is better in long term than catering to the self pity.
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>>292911
rather be saved by saya or turn the world into monstrosities to fit my scenario and be at peace. none of that will happen, saya doen't exist and I'll rot because we live in a world without scenarios for each one of us. we create our story, not fate
rather be saved by saya or turn the world into monstrosities to fit my scenario and be at peace. none of that will happen, saya doen't exist and I'll rot because we live in a world without scenarios for each one of us. we create our story, not fate
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>>292927
not really
not really
>>292927
determinism is a joke and does not even have a plausible scientific proof only some vague speculations
world is likely deterministic only in limit and intermediate results are to some degree stochastic
i think determinism is a way for modern philosophers to gatekeep people who can't agree to a false concept because they are not fun
determinism is a joke and does not even have a plausible scientific proof only some vague speculations
world is likely deterministic only in limit and intermediate results are to some degree stochastic
i think determinism is a way for modern philosophers to gatekeep people who can't agree to a false concept because they are not fun
>>292929
The world has both determinism and free will.
Take a million people with the genes for down syndrome or heavy alcohol abuse, and 99% of them will have the same life outcomes in 25 years.
But there is the 1% that can fight their circumstances and genetics and instead of dying in a car crash or living in an institution for the retarded, they escape their fate and do something worthwhile.
The world has both determinism and free will.
Take a million people with the genes for down syndrome or heavy alcohol abuse, and 99% of them will have the same life outcomes in 25 years.
But there is the 1% that can fight their circumstances and genetics and instead of dying in a car crash or living in an institution for the retarded, they escape their fate and do something worthwhile.
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>>292934
are smart people more risk takers and low iq people less adventurous because their instinct tell to not be near danger. what do you think, is it true?
are smart people more risk takers and low iq people less adventurous because their instinct tell to not be near danger. what do you think, is it true?
>>292935
Smart people throughout history took calculated risks or tried to rig the game in their favor so their risk of losing is very low.
Dumb people just go with the flow and trust "destiny" with zero preparation, and usually fail financially or die as a result of their risk taking.
Smart people throughout history took calculated risks or tried to rig the game in their favor so their risk of losing is very low.
Dumb people just go with the flow and trust "destiny" with zero preparation, and usually fail financially or die as a result of their risk taking.
Whether determinism is true doesn't matter, because you have to live as if it isn't. Even if you think it's true you have to live as if you're directing your own actions. Perhaps that's just an illusion created by your brain, but if it is then so what? It doesn't change the way you have to live.
>>292934
>Take a million people with the genes for down syndrome or heavy alcohol abuse, and 99% of them will have the same life outcomes in 25 years.
that's exactly what i'm saying, in limit you have predictable result, but how exactly this result is reached is far less deterministic. that means that your life outcome is likely already decided, at least for the most part, but how exactly you arrive there is likely up to you. this is why i maintain that you should arrive there happy, regardless of what you have to go through
>>292935
it's hard to tell and largely depends on nurture. if you grew up safe you won't be much of a risk taker, even if you're smart.
>>292938
i've been thinking exactly same thing. i find it healthy to add here what i've said above. this way if i fail i don't care because that was decided for me by God or Fate or whatever you call it. i only care about maintaining happy disposition regardless of shit
>Take a million people with the genes for down syndrome or heavy alcohol abuse, and 99% of them will have the same life outcomes in 25 years.
that's exactly what i'm saying, in limit you have predictable result, but how exactly this result is reached is far less deterministic. that means that your life outcome is likely already decided, at least for the most part, but how exactly you arrive there is likely up to you. this is why i maintain that you should arrive there happy, regardless of what you have to go through
>>292935
it's hard to tell and largely depends on nurture. if you grew up safe you won't be much of a risk taker, even if you're smart.
>>292938
i've been thinking exactly same thing. i find it healthy to add here what i've said above. this way if i fail i don't care because that was decided for me by God or Fate or whatever you call it. i only care about maintaining happy disposition regardless of shit
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>>292941
why let fate decide for you? if you let so happen to you, fate will put you in whatever situations he will and you'll be draged like an donkey here and there and you will complain what this happen to me. BE the one who tells fate/destiny what YOU wants and not the other way
why let fate decide for you? if you let so happen to you, fate will put you in whatever situations he will and you'll be draged like an donkey here and there and you will complain what this happen to me. BE the one who tells fate/destiny what YOU wants and not the other way
>>292942
are you being retarded for fun's sake or should i unironically treat it as a genuine reply? you only can defy fate in your opinion at the price of misery. "woe to me, this or that happens in my life so i'm miserable". instead be like "oh well that's a lot of shit to swallow, gotta get done with it asap". i'd like to see you command your fate when an artillery shell lands in your home btw
are you being retarded for fun's sake or should i unironically treat it as a genuine reply? you only can defy fate in your opinion at the price of misery. "woe to me, this or that happens in my life so i'm miserable". instead be like "oh well that's a lot of shit to swallow, gotta get done with it asap". i'd like to see you command your fate when an artillery shell lands in your home btw
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>>292943
then what's the right answer if you mocks mine
then what's the right answer if you mocks mine
>>292946
fate is fate you can't choose it. you can either be happy with it or unhappy with it. can't change it.
fate is fate you can't choose it. you can either be happy with it or unhappy with it. can't change it.
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>>292947
Of all the things in the world, some depend on us, others do not. Those which depend on it are our opinions, our movements, our desires, our inclinations, our aversions; in a word, all our actions.
II. Those which do not depend on us are the body, the goods, the reputation, the dignities; in a word, all the things which are not among the number of our actions.
III. The things that depend on us are free by their nature, nothing can stop them or obstruct them; those who do not depend on it are weak, slaves, dependent, subject to a thousand obstacles and a thousand inconveniences, and entirely foreign.
IV. Remember therefore that, if you believe free those things which by their nature are slaves, and those which depend on others are proper to you, you will encounter obstacles at every step, you will be afflicted, troubled, and you will complain of the gods and men. Whereas if you believe that what is yours is yours, and that which belongs to others is foreign, no one will ever force you to do what you do not want, nor prevent you from doing what you want; you will not complain about anyone; you will not accuse anyone; you will do nothing, not even the smallest thing, in spite of yourself; no one will harm you, and you will have no enemies, because nothing harmful will happen to you.
Epictetus
かわいい愚かなアニメの女の子が哲学について深く考える
Of all the things in the world, some depend on us, others do not. Those which depend on it are our opinions, our movements, our desires, our inclinations, our aversions; in a word, all our actions.
II. Those which do not depend on us are the body, the goods, the reputation, the dignities; in a word, all the things which are not among the number of our actions.
III. The things that depend on us are free by their nature, nothing can stop them or obstruct them; those who do not depend on it are weak, slaves, dependent, subject to a thousand obstacles and a thousand inconveniences, and entirely foreign.
IV. Remember therefore that, if you believe free those things which by their nature are slaves, and those which depend on others are proper to you, you will encounter obstacles at every step, you will be afflicted, troubled, and you will complain of the gods and men. Whereas if you believe that what is yours is yours, and that which belongs to others is foreign, no one will ever force you to do what you do not want, nor prevent you from doing what you want; you will not complain about anyone; you will not accuse anyone; you will do nothing, not even the smallest thing, in spite of yourself; no one will harm you, and you will have no enemies, because nothing harmful will happen to you.
Epictetus
かわいい愚かなアニメの女の子が哲学について深く考える
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>>292947
this one is also good too. replace bad omen by fate
XXVI. When the crow makes a croak of bad omen, let not your imagination carry you away, but immediately make a distinction within yourself and say: “None of the misfortunes presaged by this omen concern me; these misfortunes concern either my puny body, or my little possessions, or my little reputation, or my children, or my wife. For me, there are only happy omens, if I want them; because whatever happens, it depends on me to get good out of it
this one is also good too. replace bad omen by fate
XXVI. When the crow makes a croak of bad omen, let not your imagination carry you away, but immediately make a distinction within yourself and say: “None of the misfortunes presaged by this omen concern me; these misfortunes concern either my puny body, or my little possessions, or my little reputation, or my children, or my wife. For me, there are only happy omens, if I want them; because whatever happens, it depends on me to get good out of it
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I've never accomplished something in my life. feels like shit. I'm wasting my life for nothing. I am a parasite for this soceity
>>292979
> I am a parasite for this soceity
Fuck society. You don't owe them anything. Forget about "accomplishments" and just focus in finding something that makes you a little happy each day.
> I am a parasite for this soceity
Fuck society. You don't owe them anything. Forget about "accomplishments" and just focus in finding something that makes you a little happy each day.
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>>292999
I should not? why so?
I should not? why so?
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>>293007
>If we entrusted your body to the first person who came along, you would be outraged; and you, when you entrust your soul to the first comer, so that he may disturb and upset it with his insults, are you not ashamed?
Epictetus
The quote I showed you is one of my favorite among all quotes from all philosophers (for now haha). I like it because he's right. Like you wouldn't prostitue your body like a whore to any passerby; as your mind,you will not let it be troubled by strangers.
I am someone who is easily hurt when I receive a comment or when something is supposed to hurt me, so this quote by epictetus helps me whenever something happens, I remember this quote and try to not be hurt. I like philosophy and want to be a philosopher but I'm just amateurish haha.
I found a blog about him, been reading since.
do you like philosophy?
>If we entrusted your body to the first person who came along, you would be outraged; and you, when you entrust your soul to the first comer, so that he may disturb and upset it with his insults, are you not ashamed?
Epictetus
The quote I showed you is one of my favorite among all quotes from all philosophers (for now haha). I like it because he's right. Like you wouldn't prostitue your body like a whore to any passerby; as your mind,you will not let it be troubled by strangers.
I am someone who is easily hurt when I receive a comment or when something is supposed to hurt me, so this quote by epictetus helps me whenever something happens, I remember this quote and try to not be hurt. I like philosophy and want to be a philosopher but I'm just amateurish haha.
I found a blog about him, been reading since.
do you like philosophy?
>>293011
>I like philosophy and want to be a philosopher
book 3 chapter XV That we ought to proceed with circumspection in everything
ever paid attention to that?
>I found a blog about him, been reading since.
mind if i have a look?
>do you like philosophy?
haven't figured that out, because i don't know philosophy, not even what the word means. epictetus is useful though
>I like philosophy and want to be a philosopher
book 3 chapter XV That we ought to proceed with circumspection in everything
ever paid attention to that?
>I found a blog about him, been reading since.
mind if i have a look?
>do you like philosophy?
haven't figured that out, because i don't know philosophy, not even what the word means. epictetus is useful though
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>>293016
this quote?
>XV. You have acquired many beautiful things, you have many vessels of gold and silver, you are rich. But you lack the best good: constancy, submission to the orders of the gods, tranquility, freedom from trouble and fear. As for me, poor as I am, I am richer than you. I don't care about having a patron at court, I don't care about what people will say about me to the prince, and I don't flatter anyone. This is what takes the place of all goods for me. You have vessels of gold and silver, but all your thoughts, all your desires, all your inclinations, all your actions are of earth
here it is: https://mediterranees.net/litterature/epictete/pensees.html
sorry it's in french but you can translate using google trad or translate the whole blog. so you have les pensées (thinkings) and then book 1 to 4. for now I've only read the thinkings
>I don't know philosophy
you're wiser then me haha. like said plato: I know that I know nothing. which is wisdom. I bet on you may understand philosophy better then ma haha
this quote?
>XV. You have acquired many beautiful things, you have many vessels of gold and silver, you are rich. But you lack the best good: constancy, submission to the orders of the gods, tranquility, freedom from trouble and fear. As for me, poor as I am, I am richer than you. I don't care about having a patron at court, I don't care about what people will say about me to the prince, and I don't flatter anyone. This is what takes the place of all goods for me. You have vessels of gold and silver, but all your thoughts, all your desires, all your inclinations, all your actions are of earth
here it is: https://mediterranees.net/litterature/epictete/pensees.html
sorry it's in french but you can translate using google trad or translate the whole blog. so you have les pensées (thinkings) and then book 1 to 4. for now I've only read the thinkings
>I don't know philosophy
you're wiser then me haha. like said plato: I know that I know nothing. which is wisdom. I bet on you may understand philosophy better then ma haha
>>293017
>this quote?
actually, the first passage. beings with
>In every act consider what precedes and what follows, and then proceed to the act. If you do not consider, you will at first begin with spirit, since you have not thought at all of the things which follow; but afterwards when some consequences have shown themselves, you will basely desist (from that which you have begun).
this has struck be right in the balls when i first read it
>sorry it's in french
frenchwiz? you seem oddly familiar, just can't remember where i'd seen you before.
why'd you start reading philosophy? i just kind of stumbled upon a (really short) quote somewhere on imageboards and that was it. it's kinda skill of eloquence in action. not skill of platitudes, which seems to be overly common
>this quote?
actually, the first passage. beings with
>In every act consider what precedes and what follows, and then proceed to the act. If you do not consider, you will at first begin with spirit, since you have not thought at all of the things which follow; but afterwards when some consequences have shown themselves, you will basely desist (from that which you have begun).
this has struck be right in the balls when i first read it
>sorry it's in french
frenchwiz? you seem oddly familiar, just can't remember where i'd seen you before.
why'd you start reading philosophy? i just kind of stumbled upon a (really short) quote somewhere on imageboards and that was it. it's kinda skill of eloquence in action. not skill of platitudes, which seems to be overly common
>>293025
>frenchwiz? you seem oddly familiar, just can't remember where i'd seen you before.
I was talking to a half french, half black on /lounge/ on the neet/hiki thread. I even shared my manga collection. maybe this is werr you heard about me
>frenchwiz? you seem oddly familiar, just can't remember where i'd seen you before.
I was talking to a half french, half black on /lounge/ on the neet/hiki thread. I even shared my manga collection. maybe this is werr you heard about me
>>292911
I like to think of it as an inversion of Lovecraft's "The Outsider"
https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/o.aspx
I like to think of it as an inversion of Lovecraft's "The Outsider"
https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/o.aspx