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Any other Spanish speaking posters here?
Anyone still learning, or interested in doing so?
Anyone else interested in Spanish/Latin American history or culture? Or its media?
Do you use any other website that uses Spanish, or is it all normie filled trash?
Anyone still learning, or interested in doing so?
Anyone else interested in Spanish/Latin American history or culture? Or its media?
Do you use any other website that uses Spanish, or is it all normie filled trash?
I don't speak Spanish and I have no interest in doing so. That's not the point, however.
I'm always baffled when I hear that people are learning that language. I've overheard normie coworkers talk about the Cervantes institute for instance.
What's the appeal? I really don't get it. Is there good media in Spanish that is untranslated? Normies go on holidays to Spain all the time but they speak English there.
I can understand learning Chinese, Russian or Moon, or even German. But what's in it for Spanish learners?
I'm always baffled when I hear that people are learning that language. I've overheard normie coworkers talk about the Cervantes institute for instance.
What's the appeal? I really don't get it. Is there good media in Spanish that is untranslated? Normies go on holidays to Spain all the time but they speak English there.
I can understand learning Chinese, Russian or Moon, or even German. But what's in it for Spanish learners?
>>32797
they were teaching it in america because of the amount of spanish speakers, many learn spanish because it's easier than other languages and in according to many is a useful language. being bilingual is like a status symbol people use to feel special and is also a conversation point they can bring up whenever possible. it also boosts their importance when seeking a job supposedly
i don't know aside from some specific literature or maybe obscure television interests what you would learn it for otherwise
they were teaching it in america because of the amount of spanish speakers, many learn spanish because it's easier than other languages and in according to many is a useful language. being bilingual is like a status symbol people use to feel special and is also a conversation point they can bring up whenever possible. it also boosts their importance when seeking a job supposedly
i don't know aside from some specific literature or maybe obscure television interests what you would learn it for otherwise
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>>32797
It just seems like the norman thing to do. If you're european, it seems to be related to the Americanization of culture somehow. It's the meme language to learn there, even though any native Spanish speaker in that country who has a modicrum of intelligence and is even worthwhile to speak to should already speak English fairly well. And nobody wants to live in the Spanish speaking areas there either because they are dung heaps. Normies also think they will get a leg up in wageslavery if they speak it which is probably true if you have a government or public-facing job that deals with immigrants, children or the lower class. An American in Hawaii once told me online that at his school, he had the option to take Spanish, French, or Japanese. It was his observation that all the thugs and turbonormies took Spanish, most of the advanced class smart kids and drama students took French, and the Japanese-Americans as well as the weebs and misfits and so on took Japanese(Which is what he took). I would have taken Japanese as well.
The only Spanish-speaking regions worth visiting in my opinion are Spain and the southern cone of South America. So from that perspective it only seems about as 'useful' as a language like German. Don't be fooled by the raw amount of speakers of any language. Of course I am from Spain so you may think i'm biased about Spain, but I don't even think Spain is all that great, just that from an outsider perspective I think it's worth a visit if you're in Europe. I like Northern Spain but the normans seem to flock to Southern Spain to socialize and breed on the beaches there.
I personally would not learn Spanish if I was an english speaker. As you said, I'd choose an eastern language, or perhaps Russian, since it's a lingua franca in parts of Central Asia, a region i've always found intriguing. I am sure though a Russian will come and tell me that his language is a waste of time to learn as well. I hope however that if one does learn Spanish, they made the decision because they are truly interested in it.
Don't be fooled by normgroids telling you how useful it is.
t. Spaniard
It just seems like the norman thing to do. If you're european, it seems to be related to the Americanization of culture somehow. It's the meme language to learn there, even though any native Spanish speaker in that country who has a modicrum of intelligence and is even worthwhile to speak to should already speak English fairly well. And nobody wants to live in the Spanish speaking areas there either because they are dung heaps. Normies also think they will get a leg up in wageslavery if they speak it which is probably true if you have a government or public-facing job that deals with immigrants, children or the lower class. An American in Hawaii once told me online that at his school, he had the option to take Spanish, French, or Japanese. It was his observation that all the thugs and turbonormies took Spanish, most of the advanced class smart kids and drama students took French, and the Japanese-Americans as well as the weebs and misfits and so on took Japanese(Which is what he took). I would have taken Japanese as well.
The only Spanish-speaking regions worth visiting in my opinion are Spain and the southern cone of South America. So from that perspective it only seems about as 'useful' as a language like German. Don't be fooled by the raw amount of speakers of any language. Of course I am from Spain so you may think i'm biased about Spain, but I don't even think Spain is all that great, just that from an outsider perspective I think it's worth a visit if you're in Europe. I like Northern Spain but the normans seem to flock to Southern Spain to socialize and breed on the beaches there.
I personally would not learn Spanish if I was an english speaker. As you said, I'd choose an eastern language, or perhaps Russian, since it's a lingua franca in parts of Central Asia, a region i've always found intriguing. I am sure though a Russian will come and tell me that his language is a waste of time to learn as well. I hope however that if one does learn Spanish, they made the decision because they are truly interested in it.
Don't be fooled by normgroids telling you how useful it is.
t. Spaniard
Yes. I can't quite speak it despite the fact I've been learning it now for 5 years but my reading comprehension is pretty solid to the point I can read old plays with very little trouble. Years ago I read a shitty translation of La vida es sueño and since I had nothing else going for me I decided to learn the language. I think the sheer amount of literature and plays in Spanish makes it worth it, if you're into that kind of thing. There's plenty of obscure and untranslated media, mostly books and plays, to the point I pondered on becoming a translator. I'm pretty sure writers like Horacio Quiroga would sell fairly well if there were decent translations out there. I also developed a taste for Spanish cuisine since I also read recipe books sometimes. Outside written media and the occasional film I don't really use it.
>>32797
I only have a family connection to Spanish and have been told to get better at it because "wageslave opportunities! everyone will think you're smart!" all my life. Most people here don't or wouldn't really care about any of that, and I'm not an exception.
But my only motivation towards it is the amount of historical documents and whatnots that might be heavily overlooked. It's been easier for me to learn about Japanese history than Central American history, and I think I should change that. That and my hesitation towards translations.
Also I think telenovelas might not be worse than the baddest anime romcom, judging by what my mother watches.
And I just want to see Latin American wizards posting.
I only have a family connection to Spanish and have been told to get better at it because "wageslave opportunities! everyone will think you're smart!" all my life. Most people here don't or wouldn't really care about any of that, and I'm not an exception.
But my only motivation towards it is the amount of historical documents and whatnots that might be heavily overlooked. It's been easier for me to learn about Japanese history than Central American history, and I think I should change that. That and my hesitation towards translations.
Also I think telenovelas might not be worse than the baddest anime romcom, judging by what my mother watches.
And I just want to see Latin American wizards posting.
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How would you personally characterize Spain's relationship with Latin America?
Does Latin America look up to Spain for culture and governance? Does Spain look down on (or up to) Latin America for any reason? Is there a lot of cultural exchange?
Does the average Spaniard feel a connection to, say, the average Colombian or Mexican? Or are they too racially and historically separated at this point?
Thank you.
Does Latin America look up to Spain for culture and governance? Does Spain look down on (or up to) Latin America for any reason? Is there a lot of cultural exchange?
Does the average Spaniard feel a connection to, say, the average Colombian or Mexican? Or are they too racially and historically separated at this point?
Thank you.
>>32836
Here in mexico at least, people are still resentful towards spaniards. I don't know how spaniards look at us, but I'd bet they look at with condescendence, though we get a lot of european tourism, spain included.
Of course, it's not like we hate each other, but the general feeling seems to be that, particularly the darker skinned people.
>>32845
Sudaca is a slur used by some mexicans towards south americans (america is a continent). I personally don't understand why, I like all of Latin America.
Here in mexico at least, people are still resentful towards spaniards. I don't know how spaniards look at us, but I'd bet they look at with condescendence, though we get a lot of european tourism, spain included.
Of course, it's not like we hate each other, but the general feeling seems to be that, particularly the darker skinned people.
>>32845
Sudaca is a slur used by some mexicans towards south americans (america is a continent). I personally don't understand why, I like all of Latin America.
>>32836
Spaniards don't like mestizos. The only people in Mexico who aren't mestizos are the uber rich and powerful, though South American former Spanish colonies are much lower in mestizo percentage. Mexico is basically a failed state and example of why caste systems are retarded.
Spaniards don't like mestizos. The only people in Mexico who aren't mestizos are the uber rich and powerful, though South American former Spanish colonies are much lower in mestizo percentage. Mexico is basically a failed state and example of why caste systems are retarded.
>>32750
>Any other Spanish speaking posters here?
plenty
>Anyone still learning, or interested in doing so?
no.
>Anyone else interested in Spanish/Latin American history or culture? Or its media?
Spain yes, South American third world shitholes not at all
>Any other Spanish speaking posters here?
plenty
>Anyone still learning, or interested in doing so?
no.
>Anyone else interested in Spanish/Latin American history or culture? Or its media?
Spain yes, South American third world shitholes not at all
I was thinking the nice thing about knowing Spanish is that there are more Spanish-speaking countries than any other, so you probably get the most television stations and series/films from every single spanish country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spoken_languages#Spanish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_spoken_languages#Spanish
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>>32876
I don't see why not.
Speaking of comics, I remember back when the comic threads were a bit more active, a wizard talked about Morgan, a 70's Argentine comic, which sounded pretty interesting. I think it was a cyberpunk story that involved the world as a literal prison.
There was talked about another comic, I don't remember if it was Argentinian or Chilean, but the creator was died and it was due to the leader of the time. I'm really interested in comics history yet never heard of this, the worst that happened to American comic creators at the time was getting sued by Disney.
I don't see why not.
Speaking of comics, I remember back when the comic threads were a bit more active, a wizard talked about Morgan, a 70's Argentine comic, which sounded pretty interesting. I think it was a cyberpunk story that involved the world as a literal prison.
There was talked about another comic, I don't remember if it was Argentinian or Chilean, but the creator was died and it was due to the leader of the time. I'm really interested in comics history yet never heard of this, the worst that happened to American comic creators at the time was getting sued by Disney.
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You look this map? All those red areas, in one time, was a holy land comanded by a singer kingdom.
Today is a butch of thirdworld shitholes (or marxist shitholes in the case of Spain and Southamerica)
t. thirdworlder
P.D: Spanish is a better languaje that any germanic languaje
Today is a butch of thirdworld shitholes (or marxist shitholes in the case of Spain and Southamerica)
t. thirdworlder
P.D: Spanish is a better languaje that any germanic languaje
>>33364
If only it had been settled by bourgeois Protestants, it wouldn't be so feudal to this day
If only it had been settled by bourgeois Protestants, it wouldn't be so feudal to this day
>>32905
Holy shit. I was the one who posted that comic.
I recommend you reading only argentinian old argentinian comics if you hate the american ones. They are like a whole new world, they used to write really deep stuff for comics, even in the 50s.
Holy shit. I was the one who posted that comic.
I recommend you reading only argentinian old argentinian comics if you hate the american ones. They are like a whole new world, they used to write really deep stuff for comics, even in the 50s.
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>>33387
sorry for my bad english.
these 3 comics are one of my favorites.
Gilgamesh the inmortal is about a sumerian king who save the life of a martian, who in gratitude, give him inmortality. The martian says he will be waiting for him in mars when he wanted to die. One of the most dark comics i ever read, specially after the humanity is destroyed.
acero liquido is one of the most originals things you ever seem. fuck every comic or manga, this one is like an alien dream in a post apocaliptic universe.
cybersix is about a clone crated by a evil nazi doctro in the jungles of brazil. the doctor wanted to destroy the clones, but cybersix runs before that happens.
sorry for my bad english.
these 3 comics are one of my favorites.
Gilgamesh the inmortal is about a sumerian king who save the life of a martian, who in gratitude, give him inmortality. The martian says he will be waiting for him in mars when he wanted to die. One of the most dark comics i ever read, specially after the humanity is destroyed.
acero liquido is one of the most originals things you ever seem. fuck every comic or manga, this one is like an alien dream in a post apocaliptic universe.
cybersix is about a clone crated by a evil nazi doctro in the jungles of brazil. the doctor wanted to destroy the clones, but cybersix runs before that happens.
>>32876
My favorite Spanish cartoonist is Miguel Angel Martin. My second favorite is Juan Jose Ryp.
My favorite Spanish cartoonist is Miguel Angel Martin. My second favorite is Juan Jose Ryp.
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>>32855
Lucky enough, I only care about Central American third world shitholes!
Lucky enough, I only care about Central American third world shitholes!
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>>33387
>>33388
Thank you for these posts.
I always heard that Argentina had a lot of comics when it comes to stuff outside of the USA/Japan and some Euro countries, but I had no idea their comic scenes went that deep.
I only knew of Cybersix, and only because it got its own anime adaptation.
Also, doing some searching, I found out the creator that was mentioned in >>32905 , who joined a guerrilla group but then got kidnapped and murdered was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9ctor_Germ%C3%A1n_Oesterheld and wrote El Eternauta.
It's funny to think this happened while the US comic scene was just starting on creating furries.
>>33388
Thank you for these posts.
I always heard that Argentina had a lot of comics when it comes to stuff outside of the USA/Japan and some Euro countries, but I had no idea their comic scenes went that deep.
I only knew of Cybersix, and only because it got its own anime adaptation.
Also, doing some searching, I found out the creator that was mentioned in >>32905 , who joined a guerrilla group but then got kidnapped and murdered was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9ctor_Germ%C3%A1n_Oesterheld and wrote El Eternauta.
It's funny to think this happened while the US comic scene was just starting on creating furries.
>>33450
If you know spanish, theres a lot of documentarys about argentinian comics, most of them about this guy
If you know spanish, theres a lot of documentarys about argentinian comics, most of them about this guy
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>>33388
>Acero Liquido
Is there an argentinian wizard out there, he needs to post the art of Enrique alcatena in the art thread. This is one of the few artist who can make ilustations of the works of Clark Ashton Smith
>Acero Liquido
Is there an argentinian wizard out there, he needs to post the art of Enrique alcatena in the art thread. This is one of the few artist who can make ilustations of the works of Clark Ashton Smith
Can anyone give me an indication on how trash Hispachan is?
>>33448
Not a Spanish book, but I've been thinking about picking up War is a Racket. The writer was a US soldier who worked during the Banana Wars, which also included Veracruz and Haiti, and he talks about his experience and learning why he was told to fight in these places.
The Banana Wars, and Central American history in general, is a part of history that I've been meaning to dig in for a few years, just wasn't sure on what to trust though.
>>33448
Not a Spanish book, but I've been thinking about picking up War is a Racket. The writer was a US soldier who worked during the Banana Wars, which also included Veracruz and Haiti, and he talks about his experience and learning why he was told to fight in these places.
The Banana Wars, and Central American history in general, is a part of history that I've been meaning to dig in for a few years, just wasn't sure on what to trust though.
>>33695
just only a few years ago they discussed wizardry and wizardchan quite often, so maybe some boards are tolerable now
just only a few years ago they discussed wizardry and wizardchan quite often, so maybe some boards are tolerable now
>>33695
I just try accept any information I get, from whatever side its from, and see how well it sticks to reality. Though I somewhat struggle with the Spanish ones.
I've been watching dozens of documentaries and pieces of war footage of the 80's civil wars in Nicaragua and El Salvador, and it's honestly depressing sometimes. From the regimes people revolt again to how they sell-out once they get into power.
I don't know how military otaku can keep things light-hearted by painting everything as anime succubi. And that's just me talking about the politics, not the actual war footage and photos.
I just try accept any information I get, from whatever side its from, and see how well it sticks to reality. Though I somewhat struggle with the Spanish ones.
I've been watching dozens of documentaries and pieces of war footage of the 80's civil wars in Nicaragua and El Salvador, and it's honestly depressing sometimes. From the regimes people revolt again to how they sell-out once they get into power.
I don't know how military otaku can keep things light-hearted by painting everything as anime succubi. And that's just me talking about the politics, not the actual war footage and photos.
>>34419
Read up on guerilla fighting over the world and you'll see it's the same everywhere. The only example I can think of where rebels actually established a state that wasn't authoritarian and hyper-corrupt was the USA.
China, North korea, almost every country in the pacific area, the bolsheviks, hell even fucking Napoleon.
Always, when force is used to take power, this force is never ramped back down to give power back.
Read up on guerilla fighting over the world and you'll see it's the same everywhere. The only example I can think of where rebels actually established a state that wasn't authoritarian and hyper-corrupt was the USA.
China, North korea, almost every country in the pacific area, the bolsheviks, hell even fucking Napoleon.
Always, when force is used to take power, this force is never ramped back down to give power back.
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I'm portuguese but i live close to the northern spanish border and i used to go to Spain a lot when i was young.
Spain is a beautiful country and the fact that it has all kinds of geographic nuances (high mountains, forests, green valleys, dry lands, endless plains, mediterranean beaches) is just marvelous. It's really rare to find such a small country with this amount of scenery.
I think the problem is that massive tourism is destroying the spanish culture. The kind of tourism they promote for Spain is not a tourism based in cultural experiences but in "non-stop beach partying". That thing alone destroyed the south of Spain beyond words, completely filled with abhorrent buildings, hotels and casinos as well as loud drunken tourists everywhere.
The north of Spain remains untouched by tourism (except for Pamplona) and is just gorgeous. A true feeling of cozyness but at the same time somewhat special because it's a different cozyness you would find in a northern european town. It's unique.
Spanish comics are top-tier and heavily underated.
Spain is a beautiful country and the fact that it has all kinds of geographic nuances (high mountains, forests, green valleys, dry lands, endless plains, mediterranean beaches) is just marvelous. It's really rare to find such a small country with this amount of scenery.
I think the problem is that massive tourism is destroying the spanish culture. The kind of tourism they promote for Spain is not a tourism based in cultural experiences but in "non-stop beach partying". That thing alone destroyed the south of Spain beyond words, completely filled with abhorrent buildings, hotels and casinos as well as loud drunken tourists everywhere.
The north of Spain remains untouched by tourism (except for Pamplona) and is just gorgeous. A true feeling of cozyness but at the same time somewhat special because it's a different cozyness you would find in a northern european town. It's unique.
Spanish comics are top-tier and heavily underated.
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>>34425
Are you the same guy from the original tabletop RPG thread a few years back? I remember talk about about a Spanish game set deeply in medieval Iberia, fit with Jews and Moors and the witches and whatnot. Last I heard they were adding a Mesoamerican expansion, which peaked my interest more since the only Aztec RPG out there is English only, albeit faithful to historical sources considering it's still a fantasy.
>I think the problem is that massive tourism is destroying the spanish culture. The kind of tourism they promote for Spain is not a tourism based in cultural experiences but in "non-stop beach partying". That thing alone destroyed the south of Spain beyond words, completely filled with abhorrent buildings, hotels and casinos as well as loud drunken tourists everywhere.
Hedonistic tourists are probably the most un-wizardly people out there. I can't help but think they had it coming when they fuck up.
Are you the same guy from the original tabletop RPG thread a few years back? I remember talk about about a Spanish game set deeply in medieval Iberia, fit with Jews and Moors and the witches and whatnot. Last I heard they were adding a Mesoamerican expansion, which peaked my interest more since the only Aztec RPG out there is English only, albeit faithful to historical sources considering it's still a fantasy.
>I think the problem is that massive tourism is destroying the spanish culture. The kind of tourism they promote for Spain is not a tourism based in cultural experiences but in "non-stop beach partying". That thing alone destroyed the south of Spain beyond words, completely filled with abhorrent buildings, hotels and casinos as well as loud drunken tourists everywhere.
Hedonistic tourists are probably the most un-wizardly people out there. I can't help but think they had it coming when they fuck up.
>>34441
>Are you the same guy from the original tabletop RPG thread a few years back?
I'm not the other guy, but i'm the one of that rpg. The only Thing i Know is getting a translation by Stewart Wieck.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1861515217/aquelarre-the-dark-and-mature-medieval-rpg-now-in
About that Mesoamerican one, is not an expansion. That was planned for the first edition of t he game, but the publishing house broke. Now the idea was made into a new game. "Nahui Ollin, el juego de rol del Quinto Sol" Thats going to be the name.
https://www.facebook.com/Nah.Ollin/?fref=ts
>Are you the same guy from the original tabletop RPG thread a few years back?
I'm not the other guy, but i'm the one of that rpg. The only Thing i Know is getting a translation by Stewart Wieck.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1861515217/aquelarre-the-dark-and-mature-medieval-rpg-now-in
About that Mesoamerican one, is not an expansion. That was planned for the first edition of t he game, but the publishing house broke. Now the idea was made into a new game. "Nahui Ollin, el juego de rol del Quinto Sol" Thats going to be the name.
https://www.facebook.com/Nah.Ollin/?fref=ts
Spanish history is cool
The romans and the carthageans, the reconquista, the relations with the hre, the new world, spanish civil war etc
The romans and the carthageans, the reconquista, the relations with the hre, the new world, spanish civil war etc
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>>34441
Yes, that's me
I would like to play more table top rpg games but they are expensive and it's hard to find people who may be interested in playing them.
However, i found a pearl wich is the Mount and Blade: Hispania 1200. It's top-tier mod with an amazing focus on historical accuracy and if you enjoy the mount and blade experience you will surely love that game. You can basically become the king of Iberia.
(pic related is my character)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1qecznSE_g
Yes, that's me
I would like to play more table top rpg games but they are expensive and it's hard to find people who may be interested in playing them.
However, i found a pearl wich is the Mount and Blade: Hispania 1200. It's top-tier mod with an amazing focus on historical accuracy and if you enjoy the mount and blade experience you will surely love that game. You can basically become the king of Iberia.
(pic related is my character)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1qecznSE_g
>>34425
>Spanish comics are top-tier and heavily underated.
Even latinoamerican comics are top-tier, much better than the capes crap
>Spanish comics are top-tier and heavily underated.
Even latinoamerican comics are top-tier, much better than the capes crap
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C2%A1Ay_Carmela!_(song)
I'm trying to translate songs from Spanish
And comparing mine to Wikipedia's, seems like I got a lot of things wrong and wonder how exactly I did:
???
One night the river passed
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
And the troops invaded
???
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
The fury of the traitors
???
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
But they can't bomb anything
When there's heart
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
???
We should resist
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
But so are our combatants
We promise to resist
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
I'm trying to translate songs from Spanish
And comparing mine to Wikipedia's, seems like I got a lot of things wrong and wonder how exactly I did:
???
One night the river passed
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
And the troops invaded
???
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
The fury of the traitors
???
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
But they can't bomb anything
When there's heart
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
???
We should resist
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
But so are our combatants
We promise to resist
Ay Carmela, ay Carmela
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On the topic of both Spanish comics and history, I'm gonna list a few.
I remember a wiz posting a series of Spanish comics related to Pre-Columbian cultures, and I guess their colonization too. I was gonna ask for these, but found them deep in my bookmarks.
http://howtoarsenio.blogspot.com/2012/10/relatos-del-nuevo-mundo.html
On a more fictional note, Helldorado(gif related), is quite gruesome and involves conquistadors trying to contain a disease that is spreading in a Mayan-like island.
The last one is something I'm more excited about, since I've seen the artist's work on Deviantart(his account name is Kamazotz) over the years, and he's done an large amount of research in his art. I've read about Mesoamerica for years, but never seen it get done properly like this, even if it's an alternate-history story, and his art skills could be improved upon.
After adopting firearms and horses in a 40 year war against the Spaniards, the Aztec empire spreads throughout Mesoamerica until a schism splits it, which results into war between the two. A village on the border gets caught in a raid and is decimated, which leaves to twin boys wandering the kingdom, along with some mythological happenings. It has both an English and Spanish version.
It's probably the only indie comic I plan on using my wagebucks to get.
I remember a wiz posting a series of Spanish comics related to Pre-Columbian cultures, and I guess their colonization too. I was gonna ask for these, but found them deep in my bookmarks.
http://howtoarsenio.blogspot.com/2012/10/relatos-del-nuevo-mundo.html
On a more fictional note, Helldorado(gif related), is quite gruesome and involves conquistadors trying to contain a disease that is spreading in a Mayan-like island.
The last one is something I'm more excited about, since I've seen the artist's work on Deviantart(his account name is Kamazotz) over the years, and he's done an large amount of research in his art. I've read about Mesoamerica for years, but never seen it get done properly like this, even if it's an alternate-history story, and his art skills could be improved upon.
After adopting firearms and horses in a 40 year war against the Spaniards, the Aztec empire spreads throughout Mesoamerica until a schism splits it, which results into war between the two. A village on the border gets caught in a raid and is decimated, which leaves to twin boys wandering the kingdom, along with some mythological happenings. It has both an English and Spanish version.
It's probably the only indie comic I plan on using my wagebucks to get.
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>>34441
>since the only Aztec RPG out there is English only, albeit faithful to historical sources considering it's still a fantasy.
That was New Fire, and I think it had a Spanish translation. It's some system-agnostic game.
>since the only Aztec RPG out there is English only, albeit faithful to historical sources considering it's still a fantasy.
That was New Fire, and I think it had a Spanish translation. It's some system-agnostic game.
>>33366
All territories colonized by protestants are now extremely poor, except a few where the indigenous people were exterminated and replaced with europeans.
All territories colonized by protestants are now extremely poor, except a few where the indigenous people were exterminated and replaced with europeans.
>>36152
This one is from an ancient aztec poem
Xopan cala itec,
tzontecochotzin
Zan tic moyahua
in puyuma xochitli (2x)
Estoy tan acostumbrado a estar vivo
que ni cuenta me di cuando me volví zopilote.
Cuando vuelo no tengo miedo,
nadie me ha podido alcanzar.
En la casa del colibrí no se ha escuchado
la última palabra.
Xopan cala itec,
tzontecochotzin
Zan tic moyahua
in puyuma xochitli (2x)
Nadie recuerda exactamente
cuando me vieron por última vez
cazando con las manos conejos de fuego en la oscuridad.
Como una greca palpitante,
siete víboras al acecho.
En el fulgurante mar de arriba
solo perdura mi canto.
Amoxtlacuilol in moyollo,
in tictzotzona in mohuehue
Amoxtlacuilol in moyollo,
in tictzotzona in mohuehue, mohuehue
Después del eclipse de sangre
ya casi ni gente somos.
Aquí donde llueve tierra
los signos están rotos.
Xolotl bajó al infierno en forma de perro.
Solo quedan las casas
y los indios colgados en el viento encendido.
Xopan cala itec,
tzontecochotzin
Zan tic moyahua
in puyuma xochitli (2x)
Mi sombra empolvada
cae sobre el tambor de tierra.
En el espejo humeante
soplan las flautas funerarias.
En el lago del ombligo de la luna
casi siempre hay una respuesta.
Solo hay que saber cuál es la pregunta correcta.
Amoxtlacuilol in moyollo,
in tictzotzona in mohuehue
Amoxtlacuilol in moyollo,
in tictzotzona in mohuehue, mohuehue (4x)
This one is from an ancient aztec poem
Xopan cala itec,
tzontecochotzin
Zan tic moyahua
in puyuma xochitli (2x)
Estoy tan acostumbrado a estar vivo
que ni cuenta me di cuando me volví zopilote.
Cuando vuelo no tengo miedo,
nadie me ha podido alcanzar.
En la casa del colibrí no se ha escuchado
la última palabra.
Xopan cala itec,
tzontecochotzin
Zan tic moyahua
in puyuma xochitli (2x)
Nadie recuerda exactamente
cuando me vieron por última vez
cazando con las manos conejos de fuego en la oscuridad.
Como una greca palpitante,
siete víboras al acecho.
En el fulgurante mar de arriba
solo perdura mi canto.
Amoxtlacuilol in moyollo,
in tictzotzona in mohuehue
Amoxtlacuilol in moyollo,
in tictzotzona in mohuehue, mohuehue
Después del eclipse de sangre
ya casi ni gente somos.
Aquí donde llueve tierra
los signos están rotos.
Xolotl bajó al infierno en forma de perro.
Solo quedan las casas
y los indios colgados en el viento encendido.
Xopan cala itec,
tzontecochotzin
Zan tic moyahua
in puyuma xochitli (2x)
Mi sombra empolvada
cae sobre el tambor de tierra.
En el espejo humeante
soplan las flautas funerarias.
En el lago del ombligo de la luna
casi siempre hay una respuesta.
Solo hay que saber cuál es la pregunta correcta.
Amoxtlacuilol in moyollo,
in tictzotzona in mohuehue
Amoxtlacuilol in moyollo,
in tictzotzona in mohuehue, mohuehue (4x)
I've came across a small scene of Mexican neo-Nazi Aztec themed death metal bands and it's one of the most craziest shit I have ever came across. I have to admit, I like their album covers, they have a DIY quality and reference parts of mythology you don't usually hear about, though I doubt that Quetzalcoatl swastika was ever a thing. This song in particular is about la raza cozmica, which is unusual for Nazis to sing about considering it's about how mesitzos are a new fifth race that bring a "new era of humanity". But I just found out the author who wrote it was an anti-communist, which aligns with these groups.
From what I understand, this scene is descendant of old 30's fascist movements that sprang up in Mexico.
https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/05/anti-semitism-in-old-mexico-experiments-in-nationalism-south-of-the-border/
This is a very interesting read, even if it is from an overwhelmingly /pol/ tier source. I can't really find other sources to get more info about them. Mexican politics is a weird thing for me.
From what I understand, this scene is descendant of old 30's fascist movements that sprang up in Mexico.
https://aryanskynet.wordpress.com/2016/03/05/anti-semitism-in-old-mexico-experiments-in-nationalism-south-of-the-border/
This is a very interesting read, even if it is from an overwhelmingly /pol/ tier source. I can't really find other sources to get more info about them. Mexican politics is a weird thing for me.
I've been watching and collecting a lot of videos and music of Nicaragua and El Salvador during their civil wars. To me it's interesting to note how much pro-government(the anti-communist side) music was made from El Salvador
>>32851
>Sudaca is a slur used by some mexicans towards south americans (america is a continent). I personally don't understand why, I like all of Latin America.
I think sudaca is mostly used in Spain, Mexicans may have started using that word thinking it doesn't apply to them.
>Sudaca is a slur used by some mexicans towards south americans (america is a continent). I personally don't understand why, I like all of Latin America.
I think sudaca is mostly used in Spain, Mexicans may have started using that word thinking it doesn't apply to them.
>Thread about spanish speaking countries
>SPANISH SPEAKING COUNTRIES ARE SHIT!!!
It is not the first time that i have seen, here in wizchan, hostility towards other countries that are not the US. Why is this? I know yanks are not the smartest, but do you really base your opinion in what you read on imageboards?
>SPANISH SPEAKING COUNTRIES ARE SHIT!!!
It is not the first time that i have seen, here in wizchan, hostility towards other countries that are not the US. Why is this? I know yanks are not the smartest, but do you really base your opinion in what you read on imageboards?
>>36981
Not an American (I wish!) but I live in Ireland and I've been unfortunate enough to work with Spaniards.
To a man, they see nothing at all wrong with yelling at each other in Spanish all day long.
Based on that experience (repeated over ten years in a number of different workplaces), I have concluded that Spanish speakers are the most aggressively rude normies and it seems reasonable to extrapolate from that that Spanish speaking countries are hellish shitholes.
Why any wizard would want to learn that language is beyond me.
Not an American (I wish!) but I live in Ireland and I've been unfortunate enough to work with Spaniards.
To a man, they see nothing at all wrong with yelling at each other in Spanish all day long.
Based on that experience (repeated over ten years in a number of different workplaces), I have concluded that Spanish speakers are the most aggressively rude normies and it seems reasonable to extrapolate from that that Spanish speaking countries are hellish shitholes.
Why any wizard would want to learn that language is beyond me.
>>36981
I don't know if you realize this but most of the people who say south America is a shithole are from south America not "yanks".
I don't know if you realize this but most of the people who say south America is a shithole are from south America not "yanks".
>>36997
>to be fair all the people around the mediterranean basin are like this
That don't make it right.
>to be fair all the people around the mediterranean basin are like this
That don't make it right.
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>>36990
Are you aware of the impression Anglos give in Spain? (Not particularly the Irish though)
Are you aware of the impression Anglos give in Spain? (Not particularly the Irish though)
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>>36990
>Why any wizard would want to learn that language is beyond me.
To be fair, this thread has so far mostly just been dedicated to history and media(comics, games, music and books). I'm (just barely) practicing even though my family background is Spanish speakers, but the rest of the thread assumes you already know the language.
Also I think it's necessary to acknowledge that the overwhelming majority of any group are gonna be normies.
>Why any wizard would want to learn that language is beyond me.
To be fair, this thread has so far mostly just been dedicated to history and media(comics, games, music and books). I'm (just barely) practicing even though my family background is Spanish speakers, but the rest of the thread assumes you already know the language.
Also I think it's necessary to acknowledge that the overwhelming majority of any group are gonna be normies.
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>>36066
>and his art skills could be improved upon.
For once, I think an artist's color art is better than the black and white ones.
I think it's because he adopts a manga influence for his comics, though he mentions Kentaro Miuro and Katsuhiro Otomo as influences and those guys are fairly realistic for manga artists.
>and his art skills could be improved upon.
For once, I think an artist's color art is better than the black and white ones.
I think it's because he adopts a manga influence for his comics, though he mentions Kentaro Miuro and Katsuhiro Otomo as influences and those guys are fairly realistic for manga artists.
>>32797
>I'm always baffled when I hear that people are learning that language.
That's the case for any language that isn't your mother tongue. Language is more than just being able to put a sentence together, it's knowing the culture that comes along with it by instinct, by knowing jokes and back alley stories that can only be learned by growing up with it around the direct inheritors of the language, and by having the language in your very soul, so to speak.
Think about your example of Russian for example. If you didn't grow up in Russia or are Russian a bit of the magic will be lost on you even if you spent your whole life learning it because you just don't hold as a legitimate ownership to it as a native speaker that's illiterate.
>I'm always baffled when I hear that people are learning that language.
That's the case for any language that isn't your mother tongue. Language is more than just being able to put a sentence together, it's knowing the culture that comes along with it by instinct, by knowing jokes and back alley stories that can only be learned by growing up with it around the direct inheritors of the language, and by having the language in your very soul, so to speak.
Think about your example of Russian for example. If you didn't grow up in Russia or are Russian a bit of the magic will be lost on you even if you spent your whole life learning it because you just don't hold as a legitimate ownership to it as a native speaker that's illiterate.
I am from latin america and the culture is shit for wizards, full of machism and shitting on each other all the time. i guess its not that different from other places.. but the emphasis that the culture put in sex and how outgoing everyone is supposed to be is the antithesis of wizardy
>>41308
Its one of the most speaken languages on the world, it has variety. I like piazolla
>>41308
Its one of the most speaken languages on the world, it has variety. I like piazolla
>>41310
roberto arlt's "Aguafuertes porteñas" is wizard-friendly (almost). and "la venganza será terrible" can be wizardly sometimes (almost never, but sometimes) e.g. https://venganzasdelpasado.com.ar/posts/la-venganza-sera-terrible-del-22-11-2013
roberto arlt's "Aguafuertes porteñas" is wizard-friendly (almost). and "la venganza será terrible" can be wizardly sometimes (almost never, but sometimes) e.g. https://venganzasdelpasado.com.ar/posts/la-venganza-sera-terrible-del-22-11-2013
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>>41305
You post hit me in the feels but in a very conflicted way.
>If you didn't grow up in Russia or are Russian a bit of the magic will be lost on you even if you spent your whole life learning it because you just don't hold as a legitimate ownership to it as a native speaker that's illiterate
While you should be right, my own experience was a little different. I'm a long-time resident in a foreign country and obviously a non-native speaker of that country's language. But I'm very drawn to the "back alley magic" of knowing a foreign culture by instinct. I've immersed myself and explored so much that I can talk to locals not simply as a knowledgeable foreigner but as one of them. The invisible wall of someone considering you an alien is something you can feel, and you can also feel when it's not there. So it's definitely possible to gain complete intimacy with a culture without being native to it. I actually find there's even more "magic" in that than just being a native. And learning the language is the portal.
In this case knowing Spanish is a pretty big portal to a lot of cultures so it's definitely worth learning for that. But the language doesn't have to be big. My non-native language is spoken only in that country by a few million people. It's still huge enough to get lost in and explore for many lifetimes. Learning a big language like Spanish or Chinese basically opens up a whole new universe that is extremely different to what a monolingual person can experience. It's like there are many parallel universes on Earth that never interact, divided by invisible language barriers, and a dedicated polyglot can shuttle between them just like sci-fi space travel.
You post hit me in the feels but in a very conflicted way.
>If you didn't grow up in Russia or are Russian a bit of the magic will be lost on you even if you spent your whole life learning it because you just don't hold as a legitimate ownership to it as a native speaker that's illiterate
While you should be right, my own experience was a little different. I'm a long-time resident in a foreign country and obviously a non-native speaker of that country's language. But I'm very drawn to the "back alley magic" of knowing a foreign culture by instinct. I've immersed myself and explored so much that I can talk to locals not simply as a knowledgeable foreigner but as one of them. The invisible wall of someone considering you an alien is something you can feel, and you can also feel when it's not there. So it's definitely possible to gain complete intimacy with a culture without being native to it. I actually find there's even more "magic" in that than just being a native. And learning the language is the portal.
In this case knowing Spanish is a pretty big portal to a lot of cultures so it's definitely worth learning for that. But the language doesn't have to be big. My non-native language is spoken only in that country by a few million people. It's still huge enough to get lost in and explore for many lifetimes. Learning a big language like Spanish or Chinese basically opens up a whole new universe that is extremely different to what a monolingual person can experience. It's like there are many parallel universes on Earth that never interact, divided by invisible language barriers, and a dedicated polyglot can shuttle between them just like sci-fi space travel.
I studied it as a side hobby, sometimes watch videos in Spanish but they're mostly just restating things I've seen in English. I cannot find any interesting videos, communities or media in it. If I did then I would keep learning though. If anyone has any recommendations, that would be great. The majority of the internet is in English so I doubt anything good exists in other languages except Japanese (even then it's limited to chans and some manga/anime but still it's familiar at least and not ruined by normans), that's been my experience
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>>41907
sorry for shilling this, but you should give a try to "la venganza será terrible" (https://venganzasdelpasado.com.ar/ especially the programs between 2009 and 2013 with jorge dorio)
sorry for shilling this, but you should give a try to "la venganza será terrible" (https://venganzasdelpasado.com.ar/ especially the programs between 2009 and 2013 with jorge dorio)
>>41911
My listening comprehension is terrible unfortunately. I need to fix it but I don't know how. Listen to a lot of Spanish? Listen to slow things? I think if I listen to slow things it won't help when listening to normal speech but right now listening to normal speech I can only understand some points if I focus a lot. I mostly read but regret that now, I should have listened more.
I listened to a portion of one from that link, I could only understand a few sentences.
My listening comprehension is terrible unfortunately. I need to fix it but I don't know how. Listen to a lot of Spanish? Listen to slow things? I think if I listen to slow things it won't help when listening to normal speech but right now listening to normal speech I can only understand some points if I focus a lot. I mostly read but regret that now, I should have listened more.
I listened to a portion of one from that link, I could only understand a few sentences.
>>41912
Listen to a lot of Spanish, and a lot means a lot. Think of a baby learning to speak, they're contantly exposed to a language. Adults don't learn languages the same way, I know, but you just won't get better by listening to Spanish two hours a week.
Listen to a lot of Spanish, and a lot means a lot. Think of a baby learning to speak, they're contantly exposed to a language. Adults don't learn languages the same way, I know, but you just won't get better by listening to Spanish two hours a week.