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is it wizardly to learn new languages ? i always wanted to learn russian but the thought of i will die one day anyway prevents me from putting any effort in.
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Dunno. Currently struggling mastering english and java. The latter is far more easier for me.
It's a bit like someone said in the math thread in that solving problems (understanding texts or spoken strings) gives a small positive buzz. You put in a few months work before that starts happening enough to justify it, and will often become annoyed, so it's maybe not worth it if you're just in it for enjoyment, but if you're wondering what the commies are saying to each other or have a Russian author you'd like to read then it'll eventually become worth it.
>>33045
I'm sorry but I feel the premise of your OP is not good. You are a wizard or apprentice. Anything you deign to do is a wizardly act besides explicitly normalfag things that are no-brainers. It'd be wise to make up your mind about learning Russian; being in the in-between state of life is suffering.
I'm sorry but I feel the premise of your OP is not good. You are a wizard or apprentice. Anything you deign to do is a wizardly act besides explicitly normalfag things that are no-brainers. It'd be wise to make up your mind about learning Russian; being in the in-between state of life is suffering.
i don't think it's a matter of wizardly or not that prevents me from learning them. i just feel spoiled with knowing english as a result of being american. the effort involved in learning other languages is so great. it's not even hard to do it a litle every day, but a point is after a while where you must slave away at it every day and i never survive past that point. thinking "what's the point anyway? i barely read english stuff as it is. i should just sleep and forget about it" is how my brain starts working
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>>33051
That is indeed St. IGNUcius. He's actually been looking a lot better lately. He's a pretty likable person for being a non-wizard.
That is indeed St. IGNUcius. He's actually been looking a lot better lately. He's a pretty likable person for being a non-wizard.
>>33051
rms is now an old man. Retaining your mana may help you look healthy, but time treats everyone differently.
rms is now an old man. Retaining your mana may help you look healthy, but time treats everyone differently.
>>33053
I must also add that rms isn't a virgin. He does say he had at least one girlfriend in the past, and I wouldn't doubt that he slept with quite a few succubi since he has been a couchsurfing nomad for years.
I must also add that rms isn't a virgin. He does say he had at least one girlfriend in the past, and I wouldn't doubt that he slept with quite a few succubi since he has been a couchsurfing nomad for years.
>>33045
>is it wizardly to learn new languages ?
Only programming and dead languages. Try learning something like Latin, Biblical Hebrew, or Mayan hieroglyphics.
>is it wizardly to learn new languages ?
Only programming and dead languages. Try learning something like Latin, Biblical Hebrew, or Mayan hieroglyphics.
>>33045
I'm right now learning english, it's a pain in the ass, I wish my parents would have had money so then I could have learn when I was just a child but then I remember that if that would have happened then I would have had to talk with other people and go to a fuckin classroom, which is disgusting. Sometimes I'm not sure if what I'm writing is correct or if people understand me, I'm pretty dumb.
But I haven't learnt english to communicate with other people on the internet or IRL, only to read and listen to music, audiobooks, imageboards, etc. or to memorize lines in movies, series, so I can have fun reciting alone in my room.
I'm right now learning english, it's a pain in the ass, I wish my parents would have had money so then I could have learn when I was just a child but then I remember that if that would have happened then I would have had to talk with other people and go to a fuckin classroom, which is disgusting. Sometimes I'm not sure if what I'm writing is correct or if people understand me, I'm pretty dumb.
But I haven't learnt english to communicate with other people on the internet or IRL, only to read and listen to music, audiobooks, imageboards, etc. or to memorize lines in movies, series, so I can have fun reciting alone in my room.
>>33071
The only thing I could point out would be that "I'm right now learning english" doesn't sound as good as "Right now i'm learning english" or "I'm learning english right now"
And since you seem to have been learning it for a while you could also say "I've been learning english for X years/Months" instead of "Right now".
Anyways I feel the same as an Amerilard. Angry and bitter that I wasnt taught a second language at a young age. Really though if they would have got me a tutor as a kid, it would have probably been Spanish, which is the dead last major language i'd ever want to learn. Unless I could live in actual Spain of course. German, Russian, French, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, even Polish, Italian, Greek, Arabic or something i'd have been happy with.
The only thing I could point out would be that "I'm right now learning english" doesn't sound as good as "Right now i'm learning english" or "I'm learning english right now"
And since you seem to have been learning it for a while you could also say "I've been learning english for X years/Months" instead of "Right now".
Anyways I feel the same as an Amerilard. Angry and bitter that I wasnt taught a second language at a young age. Really though if they would have got me a tutor as a kid, it would have probably been Spanish, which is the dead last major language i'd ever want to learn. Unless I could live in actual Spain of course. German, Russian, French, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, even Polish, Italian, Greek, Arabic or something i'd have been happy with.
I can't care enough to learn another language. I'm not interested in foreign media or general culture nor am I going to speak with the people who live there.
>>33072
Wizzie, how did you know he was Brazilian? Is it in the way he forms his sentences or something?
Wizzie, how did you know he was Brazilian? Is it in the way he forms his sentences or something?
>>33076
When I imagine myself speaking another language it's always traveling said countries where it is spoken with ease, understanding signs and maps and menus and similar things. And being able to ask pointed and short questions in case I get lost or need help. Being able to consume their media as well. Visiting historical sites, cosmopolitan cities and nature reserves. Perhaps outdoor activity as well.
I never understood the culture meme either. When I think of culture in the way normies usually refer to it, it's usually means some sort of socializing, like parties, festivals, other social activities. When I say culture I mean architecture, food, transportation, etc. As in I don't care about Japan's oft-described "work culture" because I'll never experience nor want to experience it, and will hopefully not socialize with those who do either. Birthers travel to socialize and breed.
When I imagine myself speaking another language it's always traveling said countries where it is spoken with ease, understanding signs and maps and menus and similar things. And being able to ask pointed and short questions in case I get lost or need help. Being able to consume their media as well. Visiting historical sites, cosmopolitan cities and nature reserves. Perhaps outdoor activity as well.
I never understood the culture meme either. When I think of culture in the way normies usually refer to it, it's usually means some sort of socializing, like parties, festivals, other social activities. When I say culture I mean architecture, food, transportation, etc. As in I don't care about Japan's oft-described "work culture" because I'll never experience nor want to experience it, and will hopefully not socialize with those who do either. Birthers travel to socialize and breed.
>>33075
Learning another language is great because you gain a better insight that otherwise wouldn't be possible to gain.
Learning another language is great because you gain a better insight that otherwise wouldn't be possible to gain.
>>33054
No one is a wizard except maybe a couple of people from hundreds of years ago like Newton.
Anyone you've heard of who's alive is a non-virgin.
No one is a wizard except maybe a couple of people from hundreds of years ago like Newton.
Anyone you've heard of who's alive is a non-virgin.
Good for you if you're interested in the media inaccessible otherwise. Or if it's just interesting in itself to learn. The education program here requires everybody to learn a second foreign language. I was doing well but have never actually used German outside that context.
>>33091
i'm sure he's meant famous people/celebrities, and i have to agree about it usually being the case
i'm sure he's meant famous people/celebrities, and i have to agree about it usually being the case
Why does Stallman have such a weird fat distribution? It's like he's hiding a beach ball under his shirt all the time.
>>33045
You need strong motivation for that. Do you have it? I always wanted to learn japanese, but when I actually started, I realised that it is not for me. Just try, maybe you won't like it.
You need strong motivation for that. Do you have it? I always wanted to learn japanese, but when I actually started, I realised that it is not for me. Just try, maybe you won't like it.
>>33121
Studying is only unpleasant for about a year or so if there is plenty of untranslated stuff you want to read. It doesn't require that much motivation just like an hour a day for a year.
Thats for Japanese which is much harder than a European lanuage,
Studying is only unpleasant for about a year or so if there is plenty of untranslated stuff you want to read. It doesn't require that much motivation just like an hour a day for a year.
Thats for Japanese which is much harder than a European lanuage,
>>33121
Japanese is a good bit harder, but that's mainly due to the kanji, ideograms are bananas, but speaking and writing out in kana like a little kid aren't terribly difficult, won't help with consuming mongolian puppet shows though.
>>33045
Russian isn't too hard for an english speaker, cyrillic is almost 1 to 1 with latin characters, fortunately it's pretty comparable in how sound rich/poor it is to english as well, grammar would be the biggest hurdle. And that's probably the easiest thing to overcome with practise. Just grind cyrillic, get pimsleur for pronunciation, and play russian streams/movies/podcasts in the background and it'll flow pretty intuitively.
Protip for anyone learning any language, learn the basics and then move on to studying the language you're learning in the language in question, ie use resouces intended for native speakers.
t. ukranian expat
Japanese is a good bit harder, but that's mainly due to the kanji, ideograms are bananas, but speaking and writing out in kana like a little kid aren't terribly difficult, won't help with consuming mongolian puppet shows though.
>>33045
Russian isn't too hard for an english speaker, cyrillic is almost 1 to 1 with latin characters, fortunately it's pretty comparable in how sound rich/poor it is to english as well, grammar would be the biggest hurdle. And that's probably the easiest thing to overcome with practise. Just grind cyrillic, get pimsleur for pronunciation, and play russian streams/movies/podcasts in the background and it'll flow pretty intuitively.
Protip for anyone learning any language, learn the basics and then move on to studying the language you're learning in the language in question, ie use resouces intended for native speakers.
t. ukranian expat
I've been learning German for a while. I like languages, but it's almost funny that I like something that I have no courage to use most of the time.
I am learning English right now
I really like this site and this book, really helpful
http://www.memrise.com
https://www.amazon.com/Fluent-Forever-Learn-Language-Forget/dp/0385348118
Lets share useful resourses for language learning
I really like this site and this book, really helpful
http://www.memrise.com
https://www.amazon.com/Fluent-Forever-Learn-Language-Forget/dp/0385348118
Lets share useful resourses for language learning
OP learning a new language is always a useful skill to have in that it opens the way to understand how other people see and structure their language as it opens the way to understand our own by means of perspective. Of course, immersion I think is the best to learn any human language, but even online tools and the like are worth the effort if you are really into it. I'd also recommend browsing imageboards of the language you are trying to learn as it forces you to be more active on it.
>>33071
I'd say you are doing pretty well vocabulary, structure wise. I'd say grammar needs improvement though. In all, don't feel too bad, as many native speakers can usually sound and type worse than you.
>>33071
I'd say you are doing pretty well vocabulary, structure wise. I'd say grammar needs improvement though. In all, don't feel too bad, as many native speakers can usually sound and type worse than you.
What do you think of this thing?
http://learnalanguageortwo.blogspot.com/2009/06/tv-method-or-how-i-learned-italian.html
There are a few websites, books, etc. around about the idea of incomprehensible input studying. My understanding of it is that you partake in many (many, many) hours of media in your target language and eventually gain a natural understanding of it, something like a toddler would. That is without looking at grammar material (at least for a long time at the beginning) or translations into your native language (ever). Supposedly you get a lot more understanding more quickly since you're totally immersed in the language, bypassing a lot of useless "okay, how do you say this in English?" time, and eliminating the need for drills. An issue is see is that there's no teacher or computer there to correct mistakes or misconceptions so if your goal is to speak or write (or read something that's not highly phonetic) very soon, it's going to have to wait a while.
I've been unable to keep up with spaced repetition cards and FSI drills, so i'm trying this with a different language i'd been interested in, and if it doesn't work out, fine, nothing lost.
Here's a guy who's written about studying mandarin this way:
http://natural-language-acquisition.blogspot.com/
And a link from that site, something of a manifesto:
http://algworld.com/principles.php
http://algworld.com/storoal.php
http://learnalanguageortwo.blogspot.com/2009/06/tv-method-or-how-i-learned-italian.html
There are a few websites, books, etc. around about the idea of incomprehensible input studying. My understanding of it is that you partake in many (many, many) hours of media in your target language and eventually gain a natural understanding of it, something like a toddler would. That is without looking at grammar material (at least for a long time at the beginning) or translations into your native language (ever). Supposedly you get a lot more understanding more quickly since you're totally immersed in the language, bypassing a lot of useless "okay, how do you say this in English?" time, and eliminating the need for drills. An issue is see is that there's no teacher or computer there to correct mistakes or misconceptions so if your goal is to speak or write (or read something that's not highly phonetic) very soon, it's going to have to wait a while.
I've been unable to keep up with spaced repetition cards and FSI drills, so i'm trying this with a different language i'd been interested in, and if it doesn't work out, fine, nothing lost.
Here's a guy who's written about studying mandarin this way:
http://natural-language-acquisition.blogspot.com/
And a link from that site, something of a manifesto:
http://algworld.com/principles.php
http://algworld.com/storoal.php
>>34261
I think it's bunk because toddlers have a very limited amount of things filling their head which makes them essentially a sponge for language. It usually takes a toddler a few years to learn the basics of a language, whereas an adult can utilize his more developed brain to learn in an accelerated manner from a properly put together study method. What a toddler learns in years using this "natural immersion method", an Adult can learn in about a week using a method such as Michel Thomas'.
I think it's bunk because toddlers have a very limited amount of things filling their head which makes them essentially a sponge for language. It usually takes a toddler a few years to learn the basics of a language, whereas an adult can utilize his more developed brain to learn in an accelerated manner from a properly put together study method. What a toddler learns in years using this "natural immersion method", an Adult can learn in about a week using a method such as Michel Thomas'.
>>34301
Yes, the method definitely isn't made for speed of acquisition. What i collect from what i've read from those who've used it is that the chief benefits are in being intimately familiar with how the language is used and sounds. Some focus would no doubt speed things up, but i think having to make sense of chaos being thrust into it could make memory retrieval less artificial, whatever that's worth.
I can't find much info about the Michel Thomas method. The idea i get from the wikipedia article is that it's audio of Thomas having conversations with his students, verbal cues being present in the similarity between the langauges and english. Is that right? With television you get visual cues, and depending on what's being studied you could make sense of it in the same way, where the toddle has to learn from a point of understanding nothing except what it sees, our adult brains have more experience to make connections faster. While the lack of focus makes it slow, i don't think you'd go quite as slow as an infant would.
Yes, the method definitely isn't made for speed of acquisition. What i collect from what i've read from those who've used it is that the chief benefits are in being intimately familiar with how the language is used and sounds. Some focus would no doubt speed things up, but i think having to make sense of chaos being thrust into it could make memory retrieval less artificial, whatever that's worth.
I can't find much info about the Michel Thomas method. The idea i get from the wikipedia article is that it's audio of Thomas having conversations with his students, verbal cues being present in the similarity between the langauges and english. Is that right? With television you get visual cues, and depending on what's being studied you could make sense of it in the same way, where the toddle has to learn from a point of understanding nothing except what it sees, our adult brains have more experience to make connections faster. While the lack of focus makes it slow, i don't think you'd go quite as slow as an infant would.
>>33045
As long as you do not plan to pick up succubi with a new language, a new language is pretty wizardly. Imagine how many more books you can read if you learned written Spanish, German or French. Many academic works in these languages have never been translated.
As long as you do not plan to pick up succubi with a new language, a new language is pretty wizardly. Imagine how many more books you can read if you learned written Spanish, German or French. Many academic works in these languages have never been translated.
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>>33045
This
This
>>35666
>zdravstvujtje
everony just says zdrastje, zdorovo or privet. i dislike how any language book/soft teaches you the most polite/business way of sayng things, nobody but businessmen and government officials actually speaks like that.
>zdravstvujtje
everony just says zdrastje, zdorovo or privet. i dislike how any language book/soft teaches you the most polite/business way of sayng things, nobody but businessmen and government officials actually speaks like that.
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>>35666
>ы, ш, щ
It seems like English-speakers actually pronounce those sounds without knowing it because there is no designated letters for them. I always thought that "i" in "bring" is closer to "ы" than say "i" in "idiot" which is an "и". "Sh" in "short" is like Russian "ш" when "sh" in "shieeeet" is "щ". Am I right or am I confused and fail at both English and Russian?
>ы, ш, щ
It seems like English-speakers actually pronounce those sounds without knowing it because there is no designated letters for them. I always thought that "i" in "bring" is closer to "ы" than say "i" in "idiot" which is an "и". "Sh" in "short" is like Russian "ш" when "sh" in "shieeeet" is "щ". Am I right or am I confused and fail at both English and Russian?
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>>33045
No, it's fine, better question yet, why wouldn't it be?
I myself am trying my hand at latin, language of ancient gods and legendary emperors, what comfort to the ears it is, as well.
>>35666
Understanding russian is no problem, pronunciation, reading and writing are the hard parts.
>>34261
Italian isn't difficult to learn, same goes for english, for such languages it does tend to work to watch tv-shows or generally see it being spoken/written somewhere, especially on the internet, that's how I learned english myself, and a bit of spanish. I generally stay out of anything that isn't germanic/romance-related though, as those methods don't tend to work that well for anything outside of the specific field/s.
No, it's fine, better question yet, why wouldn't it be?
I myself am trying my hand at latin, language of ancient gods and legendary emperors, what comfort to the ears it is, as well.
>>35666
Understanding russian is no problem, pronunciation, reading and writing are the hard parts.
>>34261
Italian isn't difficult to learn, same goes for english, for such languages it does tend to work to watch tv-shows or generally see it being spoken/written somewhere, especially on the internet, that's how I learned english myself, and a bit of spanish. I generally stay out of anything that isn't germanic/romance-related though, as those methods don't tend to work that well for anything outside of the specific field/s.
Been studying Japanese for the past few years which ironically I most of the time use to watch western Japanese dubbed movies on FC2 Live.
I've lately also been brushing up on my English vocabulary.
It helps to fill up all the free time I have as a NEET
I've lately also been brushing up on my English vocabulary.
It helps to fill up all the free time I have as a NEET
>>35778
"Ы" not like a "idiot"
https://forvo.com/word/idiot/#en
https://forvo.com/word/%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%81%D1%8F%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B5/#ru
Feel the difference
"Ы" not like a "idiot"
https://forvo.com/word/idiot/#en
https://forvo.com/word/%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%81%D1%8F%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B5/#ru
Feel the difference
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How hard is it to learn Ural-Altaic languages? Something like Mongolian or Hungarian.
I think if you want to learn a language, you should have a good reason to learn it. Otherwise, you'll eventually just lose motivation and give up. Like in high school I took German, and after I graduated, I continued learning German because I had already spent a significant amount of time learning it, and many people told me I was pretty good at it. However, I eventually realized that, like all languages, mastering German is incredibly difficult. Not only that, but I realized that I really am not interested in German culture that much. So I eventually just stopped studying it.
I still want to learn a foreign language, because I just like learning languages, but I haven't decided what to learn. I was thinking of learning either Mandarin or Spanish. I think Mandarin is the most widely spoken language in the world, so obviously there are a lot of people I could speak to. Not only that, but China is one of the world's largest economies, so obviously learning Mandarin would be really beneficial economically. However, there are obviously a lot of downsides. Like, even if I learn Chinese, people will never consider me Chinese. Not only that, but lexical tone and the writing system make Chinese quite difficult to learn.
Spanish, like Mandarin, is very widely spoken. However, there are more Spanish-speaking people in the U.S. so I'd have more opportunities to speak Spanish in person. Not only that, but Spanish is obviously way easier to learn than Mandarin.
However, I don't think there's anything wrong with being monolingual, and if there aren't any particular languages you want to learn, just don't bother trying to learn a foreign language. It'll be a waste of time because if you don't really want to learn it, you'll eventually get bored and give up.
But if you are really interested in languages in general, but you're not interested in any one particular language, you might want to consider studying linguistics, which is just the scientific study of language. There are plenty of monolingual linguists out there too: you don't need to be a polyglot to be a linguist.
I still want to learn a foreign language, because I just like learning languages, but I haven't decided what to learn. I was thinking of learning either Mandarin or Spanish. I think Mandarin is the most widely spoken language in the world, so obviously there are a lot of people I could speak to. Not only that, but China is one of the world's largest economies, so obviously learning Mandarin would be really beneficial economically. However, there are obviously a lot of downsides. Like, even if I learn Chinese, people will never consider me Chinese. Not only that, but lexical tone and the writing system make Chinese quite difficult to learn.
Spanish, like Mandarin, is very widely spoken. However, there are more Spanish-speaking people in the U.S. so I'd have more opportunities to speak Spanish in person. Not only that, but Spanish is obviously way easier to learn than Mandarin.
However, I don't think there's anything wrong with being monolingual, and if there aren't any particular languages you want to learn, just don't bother trying to learn a foreign language. It'll be a waste of time because if you don't really want to learn it, you'll eventually get bored and give up.
But if you are really interested in languages in general, but you're not interested in any one particular language, you might want to consider studying linguistics, which is just the scientific study of language. There are plenty of monolingual linguists out there too: you don't need to be a polyglot to be a linguist.
>>36889
I'm a native Hungarian speaker and I'd say it's hard. I studied German and English while in high school and found both much easier.
Also, why would you learn Hungarian anyways? Most of us speak decent English/German and we have a shitty economy with about 10-11 million people.
Only good thing about Hungary is that we didn't give into the mass-import of terror forced upon most EU countries and are generally conservative. (No 72 genders and whatnot.)
I'm a native Hungarian speaker and I'd say it's hard. I studied German and English while in high school and found both much easier.
Also, why would you learn Hungarian anyways? Most of us speak decent English/German and we have a shitty economy with about 10-11 million people.
Only good thing about Hungary is that we didn't give into the mass-import of terror forced upon most EU countries and are generally conservative. (No 72 genders and whatnot.)
>>37189
>So I eventually just stopped studying it.
Same, I'm nearing a decade since I started learning german and I probably never went past the basics, because unlike English, I never used German in a practical way. I'll start learning a language when I move out to somewhere where it's spoken.
>So I eventually just stopped studying it.
Same, I'm nearing a decade since I started learning german and I probably never went past the basics, because unlike English, I never used German in a practical way. I'll start learning a language when I move out to somewhere where it's spoken.
>is it wizardly to learn new languages ?
Not in the slightest. Languages are inherently social, something wizards are not.
Not in the slightest. Languages are inherently social, something wizards are not.
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Likely already been mentioned many times in this thread but Japanese isn't because of well pic related.
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>>37629
is the "misnaming of 4chan meme" the source of it then?
don't think so, because bavarian finger wrestling is not becoming more pursued by same old weeabos. but I see more and more mongolian worship by the same guys who worship japan for more than a decade and I don't think I can contextualize it.
is the "misnaming of 4chan meme" the source of it then?
don't think so, because bavarian finger wrestling is not becoming more pursued by same old weeabos. but I see more and more mongolian worship by the same guys who worship japan for more than a decade and I don't think I can contextualize it.
If it's to gain access to more media and information, then it can be wizardly in my opinion
I'm improving my Spanish, not to speak to people or getting job opportunities, but because I want more books to read and seek obscure historical stuff that hasn't been thoroughly translated, just in case
I made myself learn Hangul once just to pass the time, a wizard that barely leaves his room isn't gonna have the chance to learn how to properly speak a language anyway
>>37627
It's a joke against Finns that came out of KC/Ylilauta years ago, I don't see them get memed beyond that context, besides some history threads.
That or people have genuine interests for Mongols(at least that wizard does), there's a lot to learn about them after all
>>37646
>but I see more and more mongolian worship
Huh, I guess I missed a lot
I'm improving my Spanish, not to speak to people or getting job opportunities, but because I want more books to read and seek obscure historical stuff that hasn't been thoroughly translated, just in case
I made myself learn Hangul once just to pass the time, a wizard that barely leaves his room isn't gonna have the chance to learn how to properly speak a language anyway
>>37627
It's a joke against Finns that came out of KC/Ylilauta years ago, I don't see them get memed beyond that context, besides some history threads.
That or people have genuine interests for Mongols(at least that wizard does), there's a lot to learn about them after all
>>37646
>but I see more and more mongolian worship
Huh, I guess I missed a lot
>>37646
I've just really liked throat-singing prior to it being turned into a meme. After that I looked into the general history of the different ethnic groups and found out it's actually Tuvan music I was listening too which drove even more general reading. I also like reading about religion so reading about their shaman practices was interesting.
It's incredibly pretentious to actually want to have something niche all to myself but I won't lie and say I didn't like it. I just wish people would appreciate the music rather than just meme about it, that's all.
I don't think of myself anything like a weeb because I don't think Mongolian culture is superior nor do I want to be Mongolian. Like normalfaggots will do anything for an axe wound a weeb thinks of nothing outside of the patronizing superiority of Japan.
I've just really liked throat-singing prior to it being turned into a meme. After that I looked into the general history of the different ethnic groups and found out it's actually Tuvan music I was listening too which drove even more general reading. I also like reading about religion so reading about their shaman practices was interesting.
It's incredibly pretentious to actually want to have something niche all to myself but I won't lie and say I didn't like it. I just wish people would appreciate the music rather than just meme about it, that's all.
I don't think of myself anything like a weeb because I don't think Mongolian culture is superior nor do I want to be Mongolian. Like normalfaggots will do anything for an axe wound a weeb thinks of nothing outside of the patronizing superiority of Japan.
>>33045
6 months after i still havent started learning russian. im also surprised this thread is still up.
6 months after i still havent started learning russian. im also surprised this thread is still up.
>is it wizardly
if it's not absolutely necessary, and you like the language, don't learn it
because that kills its magic
and wizards are supposed to be about magic
if it's not absolutely necessary, and you like the language, don't learn it
because that kills its magic
and wizards are supposed to be about magic
>>33075
>Anyways I feel the same as an Amerilard. Angry and bitter that I wasnt taught a second language at a young age
Learning another language in the US is pointless because you'll never be able to use it consistently. Language requires that level of usage or else not only will you never progress past the basics but you'll forget constantly.
>Anyways I feel the same as an Amerilard. Angry and bitter that I wasnt taught a second language at a young age
Learning another language in the US is pointless because you'll never be able to use it consistently. Language requires that level of usage or else not only will you never progress past the basics but you'll forget constantly.
>>38134
Mongolian 'culture' is just huffing tobacco, wrestling, horse riding, and singing about how 'we were kangs' referring to Chingis Khan.
Mongolian 'culture' is just huffing tobacco, wrestling, horse riding, and singing about how 'we were kangs' referring to Chingis Khan.
>>38149
>>33045
I learnt Spanish, its very useful, easy and a beutiful language. I enjoy reading Baroja, Delibes, Unamuno, Francisco de Quevedo, Cervantes, Juan Ramón Jiménez, Gabriel García Márquez, etc. In the US there are more Spanish speakers than in Spain. 60>45 million people, its awesome the way Spanish is growing. Best decision I ever took.
>>33045
I learnt Spanish, its very useful, easy and a beutiful language. I enjoy reading Baroja, Delibes, Unamuno, Francisco de Quevedo, Cervantes, Juan Ramón Jiménez, Gabriel García Márquez, etc. In the US there are more Spanish speakers than in Spain. 60>45 million people, its awesome the way Spanish is growing. Best decision I ever took.
>>38359
I can't help but associate spanish with mexican janitors, housekeepers and sex culture (songs like despacito)
I can't help but associate spanish with mexican janitors, housekeepers and sex culture (songs like despacito)
>>38370
Just marginally. The difference in grammar is reduced to a handful words (habeis/has, teneis/tienes), and we can all understand each other as long as slang is not used.
The real difference in spanish dialects is introduced with slang, where a single word has different meanings across countries (pendejo means jackass in mexico, but it means kid in south america)
Just marginally. The difference in grammar is reduced to a handful words (habeis/has, teneis/tienes), and we can all understand each other as long as slang is not used.
The real difference in spanish dialects is introduced with slang, where a single word has different meanings across countries (pendejo means jackass in mexico, but it means kid in south america)
>>38370
The only difference is in the vulgar register of speech. British English is more different to American English than Spanish to American Spanish. It is a very beautiful language, with a vast literature and music.
The only difference is in the vulgar register of speech. British English is more different to American English than Spanish to American Spanish. It is a very beautiful language, with a vast literature and music.
I really want to learn Japanese so I can finally abondon fansubs for good but it just all seems too hard for me, I lack motivation and I don't know where to start. The guide on /jp/ didn't really help me that much.
>>38603
Duolingo is easy to stick because it's a game. You come learn and revise the basics. Programs like Memrise and Glossika will get you further along. Check if there's an Asimil and Pimsleur course. Those are mostly audio, which is how people actually pick up languages.
Duolingo is easy to stick because it's a game. You come learn and revise the basics. Programs like Memrise and Glossika will get you further along. Check if there's an Asimil and Pimsleur course. Those are mostly audio, which is how people actually pick up languages.
>>38679
Along with worldbuilding this is one of the most god-tier hobbies in existence. I mostly lurk on the CBB and the ZBB, doesn't surprise me that other wizards like linguistics and conlanging too.
Along with worldbuilding this is one of the most god-tier hobbies in existence. I mostly lurk on the CBB and the ZBB, doesn't surprise me that other wizards like linguistics and conlanging too.
