We've had this discussion before and it's time to have it again.
Have one? Have MANY? Want one? DON'T want one? Tell us of your two-wheeled troubles and tales and share any knowledge you have with other curious wizards.
I'm currently working on getting a Suzuki GS850GT running. It was driving fine before it went in to storage for a few months but it sat out for two years before being put back in last spring. I changed the spark plugs, battery, rear tyre, unstuck the engine (rusted), and now I'm working on getting the thing started so I can change the oil and filter. I popped the air cleaner off years back, but the air hoses were so shrunk that even after being heated up they wouldn't go back on to the carbs. I bought pod filters but I can't get it running rich enough to start even after I tape the filters up, and I don't want to rejet the carbs for this much air so I'm going to have to fabricate my own air hoses for the cleaner. If it doesn't start with the air cleaner on, I can likely count on some of the valves in the cylinder being stuck as well. If that's the case, I might just save up for a new machine for the summer because I don't have the equipment to tear the engine off the bike, let alone the head off the engine.
Sounds nice haveing a motorcycle. Less problems then owning a car. >more gas efficient >smaller (can be stored in smaller places) >possibly easier to fix on your own >possibly cheaper But a huge downside I see is that one little mess up on the road and I'm dead or close to dead and will be in a lot of pain. I don't really want to risk it.
>>37110 Had it firing on quickstart alone, carbs off, with no abnormal backfiring. Got some of the engine rust and penetrating oil out of the block so now it's just a matter of playing with the carbs. They're soaking now and I'll blast them out tomorrow. I lost 3 litres of gas out of the carbs overnight because the floats aren't shutting off fuel flow. Going to buy a mew vacuum hose and see if that helps.
>>37112 >>37115 Scooters and little dualsports are the true wizmobile. The amount of adventure you can get out of such a small package is unparalelled. If you don't feel like commiting to a registered vehicle, your country may permit unregistered and unlicensed riding if you stay below a certain engine CC (usually 50)
>>37114 It is nice to hide inside, but honestly I pass by well over 50 motorcycles whenever I go out and even though I try hard to get a good look at the rider and bike, I can never learn more than just the basic engine configuration. I guess if you matched the speed of other motorists you would be easy to guage, but really a full face mask and riding leathers is less revealing than a diving suit.
>>37116 The danger is really the only downside for a lone driver, but even that's debatable on Wizchan. I'm not going to sugarcoat things; almost every rider will crash because of another motorist's poor driving at some point in their lives. There are ways to avoid failing on your own terms though. Three-wheeled motorcycles are becoming insanely populayr in the west because of how hard it is to wipeout on them. Actual twin wheel axle kits can cost more than a new Harley though, but if you have a few grand to blow, a UJM tourer with a brand new sidecar could fall short of $1,750 USD.
>>37123 Fixed the float problem, carbs are now mint. The petcock still doesn't shut off when in the off position though. It sill wasn't firing because the first and second spark wires were flipped, which means I probably didn't need to touch the carbs in the first place. Now It's running healthy but I can't keep it idling because I just slapped the idle screws back in after I cleaned them. Going to grab a new fuel line then mount some signals on and hopefully call a guy about safety. If I can get it idling tonight I'll be ready to change the oil and filter then it'll be ready for a test drive.
I'm also going to begin writing short info blocks about some interesting and historical bikes so the thread doesn't turn in to me blogging.
If you reside in an urban environment with plenty of car traffic, commuting with a low cc motorcycle is a sound choice. Filtering, high MPG, low maintenance costs, insurance is laughably cheap, parking is never a problem, but most importantly riding is so much fun to do in and of itself.
>>37114 I see where you are coming from, however personally I feel more anonymous in a full face helmet and gear that covers every inch of my body from penetrating normie gazes. Anyone can look in your car window and see you.
My family owns two, but I made it personal and decided I won't get a licence even though they want me to get it. I see it as a big toy you can only use for like 5 months and when you do, you have to be extra careful for things like other drivers and state of the road. We don't really have much highways or bike routes, so for me it's ultimately a middle-age crisis manifestation. I'm only enthusiastic about cars I could use for dwelling and escaping, getting involved with motorcycles would only take me in the opposite direction.
>>37116 I wouldn't really bet on the "easier to fix on your own" part. From what I've seen, even getting the battery out was much trickier than in a car. I think it's like comparing laptop maintenance to desktop maintenance.
I would only consider a 125CC bike, because I can get it on my driver's licence just fine, but I'd only use it for fun in the early morning. Too many times I was forced to give way to brutes, and that's in a car. On a bike I'll just become a dent on their right side of their vehicle.
>>37217 Modern day cars are quite complicated to fix, and sometimes requires you to take it in just to turn off a warning light. (At least from the stories I've read). And they also come with a built in computer, adding on top of the mess that is there. With a motorcycle a lot more has to be cut down, changed to fit in a smaller body and such. I can understand that it would be harder to change the battery in the motor cycle, since its made to be more compact. But from what little knowledge I have, I believe it would be easier to fix more problems on a motorcycle then on a car. And possibly have less problems all together. Less systems in a motorcycle then a car. But I have no real experience with either and I'm just going off of information I've picked up from browsing, feel free to point out my mistakes.
>>37217 >From what I've seen, even getting the battery out was much trickier than in a car
Generally I find it the other way around. If I want to take the battery out of my 80's UJM tourer, all I have to do is flip the seat open and unscrew the two terminal connections. If I was smart I would have an elastic band on there which I would have to remove. It's the same for a lot of cars too; open the hood, unscrew two terminals, and you're in business. However, on new model cars, SUVs, and trucks, there are often cover plates and brackets which must be removed before access to the battery terminals can be achieved. I think some very new models even require you to tell the computer that you're going to remove the battery beforehand so you don't damage the system. On newer bikes though, the process has remained the same throughout time. I actually looked at some new dualsports which I imagined would have a more complicated battery removal, but they all turned out to be the same simple flip and switch process.
>>37220 >I believe it would be easier to fix more problems on a motorcycle then on a car.
This is true for newer vehicle models, as like you said modern enclosed vehicles have computers and other additional systems which must be worked around. For older models the level of compilation is around the same. Motorcycle and car engines were pretty much identical, often even interchangeable, and both had their even ups and downs. A motorcycle engine for example was small enough that it could be removed and worked on without hoists or special tools, whereas an older vehicle engine, while too big to lift out on your own, had enough space around it under the hood to be broken down and worked on without needing to remove it at all.
The biggest contributor to the difficulty of motorcycle repairs is the previous owner. Buy a bike that was looked after well and continue to maintain its health with easy routine work and you won't have any problems. Buy a bike that wasn't as lucky, and you'll find yourselves overwhelemed with so many small problems and worn out bits that getting it in shape will seem impossible.
The prospect of a six-cylinder engine being the powerhouse of a motorcycle has lost it's awe and charm since Goldwings begun ending up in the scrapyards, but when lined up straight with an array of chrome headers jotting out from the block, the CBX1000's six cylinders turn heads just as fast as they can turn the rear wheel. Capable of speeds of over 215 Km/h when stock, this superbike has seen praise as a revolution in Japanese motorcycle technology. Dispersing 1,000 CC over six cylinders resulted in a much smoother ride compared to competitor's superbikes of the time, which often packed up to 1,200 CC across 4. A downtuned tourer model was developed shortly after this bike's release to international markets, and being in the UJM class of standards, an original stock version is a rare find, as many riders are quick to bob out and downsize components to make the beast of an engine appear even bigger.
>>37217 It's always easier to fix a motorcycle. Not only do you have easy access to everything on it, there are less moving parts, and in most cases unless you decided to ride something ridiculous like a goldwing, the whole machine is light enough to be lifted by hand. You only ever have to change 2 tires or rebuild 2 brake calipers instead of 4. and to do that, you don't have to dangerously jack up a 2 ton monster and precariously stick your arm underneath its bulk. Hell, you can easily take off the engine with a few bolts. Just try comparing the pocedure for changing out suspension components on a car to doing it on a bike. Or the exhaust system, on a car you will have to crawl under it. A bike? unbolt the couple nuts at the front end, undo the clamp at the muffler and its off. The majority of non-running carburetted motorcycles are piss easy to maintain, my friend.
Finished some electrical on the front end. I needed to rewire and house the headlamp and signals after taking the tourer fairing off. It was too bulky for my tastes, and actually stood out further than my crash bars, so if I were to drop the bike the fibreglass would shatter. A bit of difficulties stemming from the flasher relay, as in it doesn't work no matter what resistance I give to it. The replacements I have too also mysteriously stopped working so I'm going to look for one with a timing chip in it instead of this capacitor-based mechanism. I had it starting in one crank, but it jumps up to 3,000 RPM and hangs there. It doesn't cut out when I tug on the throttle which is a good sign, but that idle speed will seize the air-cooled engine in a matter of minutes. I've since synched the throttle valves closed and now it won't start at all. I have a bit more to play with on the carbs, but they're all mystery screws; even the official breakdown manual doesn't tell me what they are, but it looks like they dictate how much air gets in to the starter circut. But then again, I fired it up on quickstart but couldn't get it to stay running, so maybe the primary jet is still non-functioning. I'm ripping my hair out, and I may just work on cleaning the appearance of the bike up before stressing over it more.
Flash thought actually: I may be an idiot, because when I synched them, I synched them closed, exposing only the microscopic starter circuit outlet, so now maybe it's just a matter of nudging them all open with the master "you don't have to take the carbs apart reven off" idle screw.
The Yamaha DT-1 was considered a breakthrough motorcycle. It blurred the line between on and off-road formats, offering riders excellent performance no matter what terrain they were on. Utilizing Yamaha's patented Autolube system and sporting an electric start - rare for motorcycles of the 60's -, and a MSRP of what today would be around $5,000, the bike was an all-in-one package priced to sell, and that's just what it did. All of the initial production line was sold out as soon as the bikes hit the market. Both a stylistic statement and a true performer, Yamaha was quick to expand on the model and release versions that went higher and lower in terms of firepower. With CC ranges from 50 to 400, Yamaha's fresh line of dualsport enduros had a model for everyone looking to dip their toes in to the world of motorcycles. Do you want a road bike with e power to carry a friend and his luggage through wooded hills, or do you want a pocket-sized dirt runner that you could safely pull on to the highway if needed? No matter what you want, Yamaha's got you covered.
>>37108 I mostly hate the idea of leaving my room unless I absolutely need to, and I walk everywhere, so I don't see the point. Also, they're pretty dangerous.
GS850 is idling supremo now. It's hard to start though, perhaps because the enrichiner starter circuit is clogged, or I blocked it off by accident. I must have missed the pages in the shop manual detailing bench synching but basically it should have been the first thing I did. Now I can run it hot and do a full oil change. The problem is, I don't know what critical temperature is for this bike. It gets up to 100 celsius on the headers after 10 seconds of idling at 1,100rpm. That seems like a temperature that could just as easily be within bounds as it could be outside bounds. I'll need to ask on a dedicated forum. If things are within usable limits I'll grab the ownership and prepay a summer of insurance and I'll be free to drive off whatever cliff I choose. Going to go buy a flasher relay now because I shorted my stock and replacements.
I scraped the former ceramic coating off of the headers because it was half gone and rust had filled the seams. There's a nice burnt polished steel underneath; almost chrome with some brown and red tinture. I tried clear coating to protect it but hahaha plastic spray paint catches on fire when it gets to 300 degrees. If I can't find a rustproof solution that will not cover up this nice burnt chrome I'll just leave them bare. The point of taking the pipes off was to clean them inside and that's what I did. Sometime over the winter a chipmunk had stored some peanuts in the tailpipe. Last I checked it's bad to pack your engine full of kindling.
I found a guy on Craigslist with the same bike as mine. He said he put a new battery in and couldn't get it to turn over, it just clicked. Exactly the same problem I had, I told him what I did and that if it worked for him he could easily get more for the bike. Now the ad doesn't outline the problem and the price is doubled. Hehehe, I'm sure I ruined someone's day.
The name of the Hayabusa came from competition in it's rawest form: Find out what animal our competitor has named their best vehicle after, and name ours after whichever animal preys on that one. In the case of the Hayabusa, Suzuki had lucked out, as their competitor, Honda, had chosen to dub their flagship superbike "Super Blackbird", which is preyed on by what happens to be the fastest moving animal in the world, the Peregrine Falcon (Hayabusa). Suzuki did the bird's name justice by developing what was, and still is, the fastest consumer streetbike on the market, stealing the title from Honda by a long shot. The Hayabusa, despite its acclaim, introduced nothing new on an engineering level. The same inline 4 DOHC engine that has been standard for decades is powering the Hayabusa. What allows this old reliable engine to push the bike to record-breaking speeds is the advanced high-power gearbox and intricate aerodynamics. Consequential to the performance-minded shape of the bike, the Hayabusa's appearance was authored to be something entirely of it's own. Non-derivative, completely unique to itself. A bold statement that Suzuki understood would go loved by some and hated by others, the bike to this day will always stand out from a crowd whether stock or modified.
Smashed my headlight, then smashed the replacement. I bought a highway light to replace that but I can't find metal thick enough to form a weldable bracket on to the lower fork guide. I might just tack it on to the front fender to look retro. I have fork ears, I just don't want to rip the forks off and risk not putting them back on straight.
I've decided to bob it out, but not in the traditional drop-seated sense. I'm going to hack off everything south of the suspension pivots and slice the seat in half. Once that's down I'll create a flat-profile tail light and mount the stock UJM signals further up. If I need a rear fender to safety, I have a sliced up Yamaha one lying somewhere that I can tack on to the remaining frame. I just don't want there to be more on the bike than I need to worry about, so the smaller it is the less overwhelming any work will seem. If I can sew up a backrest with the remainder of the seat I might raise the handlebars. Maybe this will be the solution to that hunch forming on my back.
This iconic WWII motorcycle has been depicted in numerous films, series, and video games focusing on WWII, often either as wreckage or a swift getaway opportunity for the protagonists. At 1,000 pounds wet, carrying up to three passengers, a machine gun and all associated munitions, it may have been a surprise to the allies, and even the axis, to see such small a vehicle crawling effortlessly up muddied hills and snowy roads. To obtain such off-road performance, the sidecar wheel needed to be a driving force instead of just dead weight, so a long axle was fitted to drive the two rear wheels in unison, not unlike a regular car. On top of this, separate off-road gears could be engaged for added crawling power. These additions on top of a 750 CC 26HP boxer twin made the R75 a viable platform for all environments. Copied by many during and long after the war, the R75 lives on as staple of motorcycle development, paving the way for future shaft-driven and two-wheel drive models.
>>37705 Turns out I put a fuze in between two separate fuze slots, bridging a 20a and 10a line with a 20a fuze.I'm going to post some pictures once I clean up my chop job.
I'm in love with the idea of a motorcycle. The reality is that they just aren't for me. I live in an area with very nasty roads, when I do drive I drive long distances(20+ minutes minimum), and the maintenance(which I wouldn't mind) is more than a typical car.
This however pales in comparison to the amount of danger that I'd be exposing myself to. It's just not worth it to me. I'll content myself working on mowers and watching from afar.
>>38391 You're right to worry about the road conditions. A pothole or fissure can knock a rider off his seat at any speed. Have you considered bicycles or low-displacement mopeds? They offer the same freedom and fun of motorcycles without the issues of maintenance.
Mowers are fun too. I've toyed with them before and riding them is quite therapeutic.
>>38434 Even a moped is not good for the roads where I live, trust me they are garbage. The county won't take them and the neighborhood owner hasn't done maintenance in several years. There's potholes everywhere and certain sections have been washed out repeatedly.
I'm still relatively new to mowers and small engines. I made a thread the other day here about fixing one. I've gotten really interested in general car maintenance too as it's easier than I thought it would be since it was mostly as confidence issue. Currently building up my tool collection.
>>37218 >buh-but you HAVE to be an unemployed, overweight, neckbeard who still lives with your mother and has had absolutely no accomplishments or skills whatsoever in order to be a virgin!
>>38491 It just reaches a point where if you're such a well adjusted, well paid individual with a diverse range of hobbies, it begs the question of why you even belong in a place like this.
I can understand small successes, like you're mastering Japanese or you wrote a new computer program. However it crosses the line when you engage in activities like riding a motorcycle.
>>38514 yes i care, i cannot help but care when your engines are so fucking loud that they give me heart palpitations
bikers are chads anyway so i dont expect you to care about being an asshole to everybody around you, you gotta look cool in order to impress other normans and succubi, i get it
>>38519 You do realise there are many wizards on the spectrum or merely wanting some sort of tranquility in their daily lives. Do you also like blasting loud music in your flat and drive your neighbor insane with the noise?
>>38518 i dont even have a bike, but id like one. I just dont care. You think someone should take your potential heart palpatations into consideration before buying a motorcycle? >please dont shoot fireworks, muh ptsd and muh dogs :( reminds me of that no-fun-allowed shit. Nobody here wants a bike to impress anyone, id bet. They would want a bike because its fun, period. The only person I even talk to on a regular basis is family, what succubi am I gonna impress? The old lady that works at the gas station 5 miles away?
>>38520 few years ago i used to blast prokofiev's dance of the knights and wagner's ride of valkyries every morning but i had to stop when the old faggots i had as neighbor threatened to sue me. anyway i couldn't care less if some are on the spectrum, actually i appreciate some genuine schadenfreude so it makes the riding even better
>>38521 >>38522 >>38523 perfect exemple of the sociopathic bike chad mentality, ZERO respect whatsoever for people around you I hear bike chads daily without having to leave my room, fireworks are a biannual occurence tops and not nearly as annoying anyway shitty analogy
>>38526 there's a thing called headphones, use them and listen to some music while you're in your room instead of harassing other people for their hobbies
>>38533 Okay so when I step outside your house at night and start banging pots and pans together, it's your fault you heard me, and not my fault for being an inconsiderate asshole.
>>38492 I mean what you're basically saying is you have to fit a certain stereotype in order to be a wizard or else you're instantly a chad thundercock. Sexual history be damned.
This is a site for male virgins and believe it or not there are male virgins who own or have owned motorcycles, cars, and trucks. Granted, we're in a much larger minority than the common NEET virgin.
>>38568 Same here, friend. Never mind the fact that I would have to save for years to afford a motorcycle, I would most likely be too scared and incompetent to ride one. Perhaps overcoming these issues is possible.
>>38571 I failed the MSF course that was required to get my class m license while everyone else passed. Was a bad feeling. >I would have to save for years to afford a motorcycle If it takes you years to afford to buy a motorcycle… then you can't afford a motorcycle. The expenses don't just end after you buy one.
If I ever get a mc it will need to have a roof. The reason I hate relying on bicycles is that using them under rain is pure hell. I would want a scooter with a nice chubby salon around it so that I could go in rain and wind and be comfy.
>>38492 >mastering Japanese or writing a new computer program is a "small success" >riding a moped is on the tier of super well-paid well-adjusted turbochad with diverse range of hobbies Your perception is more than a little skewed.
Suzuki AX100 Suzuki AX 100 is a two-stroke, 100 cc motorcycle from Suzuki. It was made both in Japan, India and China. The Suzuki Samurai was a similar motorcycle made by Suzuki India for the Indian market. Various Chinese companies like Baccio, Jiancheng, Guerrero, Ayuco or Akt copied the design and produced mechanical copies under various names such as Dayun. Launched in the middle 1990s purely for the Far Eastern commuter market, in fact it is still made in China some 15 years on. It is the height of simplicity; a four-speed air- cooled two stroke with piston porting and a simple carburetor. A full chain guard and simple drum brakes keep maintenance tasks simple for unskilled labour, and parts inexpensive to buy, especially as they are manufactured by many different companies in China, many of poor or at best indifferent quality. Between 1990 and 2000 Suzuki motors corporation manufactured the Suzuki AX 115 cc.
I salute the courage of anyone who dares drive one here be it for the thrill or freedom. Why? The weather (frequent rain, snow) and roads are terrible. Perhaps even more importantly the typical person on the road is in a full-size car/truck/SUV making any crashes deadlier for riders.
Probably why they're called "donor cycles" here and the death of a distant relative is reminder again of why that's the case…
>>37550 I didn't get it on the road last year, but now that I'm a wageslave I can actually afford parts. I bought a new headlight assembly because a new 6" xenon halo high/low with grille is 10 bux cheaper than a 40 year old piece of replacement glass. Bought a bobber seat for fun, it's coming in the mail next week. Got the papers in order so It's under my name now. Stole my DT125-E's fork ears and sliced them up so I didn't need to remove the GS forks. All 3 sets of Chinese turn signals I ordered have just fallen apart for no reason, not settling for anything short of Tokai Denso at this point. My FCAW welder has a "too cold" and "too hot" setting for this tube steel so I'll have to Oxy/map braze my sissy bar x rear light mounting system. That torch should allow me to throw some old Silentium cowlings on the world's plainest V&H to look rad. If It's not on the road by June 11th I'm going to commit suicide by buffet.
>>42627 >The weather (frequent rain, snow) and roads are terrible. This is my gripe too. I can only get 6-8 months of riding in a year, and transport trucks dominate the roads in all seasons. I'm jealous of countries like India where rain is rare enough for people to be completely capable of living with just a motorcycle. Not to mention the dryness allows bikes to last so much longer down there. It's summer in North America and the roads here are still coated with salt. Luckily my bike is heavy enough that potholes don't send me airborne, but every few weeks another cross and bouquet are placed beside the highway in memory of someone who happened to have a harmless spill in front of a very harmful semi. It's really not up to the rider whether he lives or dies. Drunken dirtbikers doing back flips 30 feet in the air are less likely to die solely because they don't have to share the trail with trucks and SUVs.
>>44019 I wish the concept of death races caught on. Truly depressed people say that the sadnesd overwhelms them to the point where they just don't care to go and do something radical like steal million dollar car and crash it in to a speeding train. I'm sure many of us have at the least a passive disdain for life which still permits us to aim for riches even if it kills us. Wizards could enter the races as an unannounced team, ensuring that only mortals die and the prize money goes to expanding the wizards' sewer city. Once wizards are the majority of surviving contestants we could council together and advocate for higher payouts.
What are some reliable motorcycles suited for a person who doesn't like high speeds, appreciates as much safety as possible in traffic and wants to ride far?
>>44089 >reliable motorcycles Anything UJM or vintage Harley. 45+ years old and still running fine is more common than scrap. >Suited for a person who doesn't like high speeds Shaft drive tourer or Enduro brapbrap-crash format >appreciates as much safety as possible in traffic and wants to ride far? UJM Sport Tourer. They're big, they don't hide their lights, and you sit higher than many cars on them while still maintaining a low center of gravity. Some even come standard with fog lights on the built-in crash cage, like a suit of shining armor that fells demons from a mile away.
Models like the Honda Goldwing, Suzuki GS ( sans X, XR ), and Kawasaki Z series are common beginner favorites for their safety and abundance of resources. For a laid back ride Suzuki Boulevards, Yamaha Viragos, and even Harley Shovelheads come cheap
The idea behind many of these models is having a powerful engine which can give you consistent power when riding between high elevations and sea level, or going from naked bike to full package paniers x fairing tourer configurations without needing to relearn the throttle. While many of these engines also power sport bikes, the final drive or gearbox are often ratioed to prevent incredible speeds. It is impossible to wheelie on most shaft drive bikes do to not only the shaft/wheel gear size ratio, but also the overhead position of the shaft, which produces downward force on the rear wheel, adding to traction. sort of. Chain drives are OK of course, but shafties need less frequent maintenence and are invulnerable to dirt, making them ideal for long rides without worry.
don't consider a Goldwing if you want to do your own maintenence
>>44090 Thank you for the extensive answer. Perhaps one day when I save enough money I'll enter the world of motorcycles. They always fascinated me, the idea of riding the scenic roads is tightly connected to the ideal of freedom, but I would really need something safe, as it's only a matter of time before I fuck up in traffic.
>>44291 >>44296 If it's of any consolation riding accidents are hilariously fatal especially against the monster trucks everyone has on the road. Even buff Chad is no match against tons and tons of metal smashing into him at speed. Or just wiping out from his own accord.
Has science gone too far? Yes, this is real, and no, it's not some experimental showbike that will never see production. 3 cylinders - 3 wheels. Bridging the gap between touring three-wheelers such as the Can-Am Spyder and your standard motorcycle, the 2019 Niken sports two wheels on the front end and one master drive wheel at the rear. Unlike the Spyder however, the Niken handles as one would expect a motorcycle to. Given the short distance between the two front wheels and their independent suspension, the machine still relies on the rider to countersteer and lean in to turns. The addition of the twin wheel produces more traction, as well as greater stability on uneven roads, making this bike a versatile tourer that some say will pave the way for a new standard in three-wheel motorcycle format. Time will tell how this leap in a forgotten direction will turn out.
Three wheels. Does anyone not consider it a motorcycle, now that this has three wheels?
I wonder if the wheels were in the back (unrealistically in regards to anything else), it wouldn't need a kick stand?
Never really rode a motorcycle or know about cars. Just posting my questions since they came up. Life is literally suffering. God damn the demiurge for making my mind like this.
>>45194 >Does anyone not consider it a motorcycle, now that this has three wheels? That got me thinking. All cars are by definition motorcycles (Motorquadricycles) but for some reason the word 'motorcycle' is only associated with 2 wheels (motorbicycle). It's weird how words get a meaning or association outside of their literal definitions and everyone just accepts it.
>>48418 Funny, those BMWs are the only bikes I see on the road in the rain. I believe they have advanced traction control that permits them to be used in wet stop/go traffic. On the flipside though they are particularly pricey