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I'll start
>God tier
Reading
Writing
>High tier
Art
Fishing
Cooking
Beekeeping
Gardening
Climbing
Puzzles
Technology
Calligraphy
Musical instruments
Bodybuilding
Mycology
Photography
Urban exploration
>Ok tier
Hiking
Singing
Sports
Acting
Homebrewing
Pottery
Knitting
Origami
Darts
>Low tier
Video games
Cosplaying
Air sports
Metal detecting
Skateboarding
Juggling
Martial arts
Skydiving
Graffiti (unless you're good)
>Shit tier
Any collecting-based hobby (maybe a few expections)
>Normie tier
NFL, rugby, soccer, handball, etc
>Weird tier
Listening to music
Candle making
Amateur radio
Flower arranging
Soapmaking
Gunsmith
Ghost hunting
Dowsing
>God tier
Reading
Writing
>High tier
Art
Fishing
Cooking
Beekeeping
Gardening
Climbing
Puzzles
Technology
Calligraphy
Musical instruments
Bodybuilding
Mycology
Photography
Urban exploration
>Ok tier
Hiking
Singing
Sports
Acting
Homebrewing
Pottery
Knitting
Origami
Darts
>Low tier
Video games
Cosplaying
Air sports
Metal detecting
Skateboarding
Juggling
Martial arts
Skydiving
Graffiti (unless you're good)
>Shit tier
Any collecting-based hobby (maybe a few expections)
>Normie tier
NFL, rugby, soccer, handball, etc
>Weird tier
Listening to music
Candle making
Amateur radio
Flower arranging
Soapmaking
Gunsmith
Ghost hunting
Dowsing
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>>4656
Trash list you fat retard
>God tier:
Mathematics
Sports
Technology
Video Games
Martial Arts
Olympic Weightlifting
Powerlifting
>High tier
Bodybuilding
Urban Exploration
Cooking
NFL
Origami
Gunsmith
Music
>Ok tier
Pottery
Fishing
Art
Climbing
Puzzles
Gardening
Musical Instruments
>Low tier
…
>Shit tier
Calligraphy
Knitting
Acting
Singing
Homebrewing
Juggling
Skydiving
Graffiti
Cosplaying
Soapmaking
Ghost hunting
flower arranging
Dowsing
Candle making
>Normie tier
Reading
Writing
Trash list you fat retard
>God tier:
Mathematics
Sports
Technology
Video Games
Martial Arts
Olympic Weightlifting
Powerlifting
>High tier
Bodybuilding
Urban Exploration
Cooking
NFL
Origami
Gunsmith
Music
>Ok tier
Pottery
Fishing
Art
Climbing
Puzzles
Gardening
Musical Instruments
>Low tier
…
>Shit tier
Calligraphy
Knitting
Acting
Singing
Homebrewing
Juggling
Skydiving
Graffiti
Cosplaying
Soapmaking
Ghost hunting
flower arranging
Dowsing
Candle making
>Normie tier
Reading
Writing
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Where would anime fit in?
Probably pretty low, considering it's my number-one hobby
Probably pretty low, considering it's my number-one hobby
My short list of great hobbies, in no particular order.
- running.
- home exercises (especially pushups, pullups).
- playing an instrument.
- Vidya.
- watching TV series and movies.
- punching a boxing bag.
- Math (different difficulty levels).
Most of these affect different parts of your whole being, and keeping the body and mind healthy.
- running.
- home exercises (especially pushups, pullups).
- playing an instrument.
- Vidya.
- watching TV series and movies.
- punching a boxing bag.
- Math (different difficulty levels).
Most of these affect different parts of your whole being, and keeping the body and mind healthy.
>>4706
I think OP is angry at video games taking up most of /hob/. It's the only reason why he put it in the low tier.
I think OP is angry at video games taking up most of /hob/. It's the only reason why he put it in the low tier.
>>4748
OP put video games there because he doesn't like letting them take up his time. I myself always use cheats and trainers so I can lose interest faster.
OP put video games there because he doesn't like letting them take up his time. I myself always use cheats and trainers so I can lose interest faster.
>>4747
Because while it is a great medium for art, it just doesn't compare to the hobbies listed in the God tier. Weightlifting is the perfect combination of raw strength, technique, gracefulness, beauty, and power. Powerlifting shows the raw strength and determination an individual can achieve. Mathematics and technology are the ultimate tests of logic and reasoning. Sports/martial arts, like wrestling(the real kind) for example, show the traits of technique, determination, strength, power, quick wits, and pure willpower that the human body can exhibit.
Video games and anime are some of the best form of escapism out there, some have meanings, and some are purely for fun, but they are all beautiful works of art.
Because while it is a great medium for art, it just doesn't compare to the hobbies listed in the God tier. Weightlifting is the perfect combination of raw strength, technique, gracefulness, beauty, and power. Powerlifting shows the raw strength and determination an individual can achieve. Mathematics and technology are the ultimate tests of logic and reasoning. Sports/martial arts, like wrestling(the real kind) for example, show the traits of technique, determination, strength, power, quick wits, and pure willpower that the human body can exhibit.
Video games and anime are some of the best form of escapism out there, some have meanings, and some are purely for fun, but they are all beautiful works of art.
>hobbies I put no effort to but I do it all the time tier (read addictions)
browsing imageboards, wikipedia, hoarding idiotic pictures online, porn
>hobbies I do sometimes but it takes some effort and the right mood to do it tear
Books, drawing, cooking, mangos, games
>hobbies I would like to have but I can't do it
learning languages, programming, tinkering in electronics, animus, math, entomology…
Reading the thread I realized I have another hobby; gardening. I keep a small number of plants outside, mostly for making the spices; basil, spearmints, banana pepper and a tiny brassica that keeps getting attacked by pests.
browsing imageboards, wikipedia, hoarding idiotic pictures online, porn
>hobbies I do sometimes but it takes some effort and the right mood to do it tear
Books, drawing, cooking, mangos, games
>hobbies I would like to have but I can't do it
learning languages, programming, tinkering in electronics, animus, math, entomology…
Reading the thread I realized I have another hobby; gardening. I keep a small number of plants outside, mostly for making the spices; basil, spearmints, banana pepper and a tiny brassica that keeps getting attacked by pests.
Of all things, I would belive the highest tier would involve some sort of skill and involves improvement to increase interest in hobbies. So…
High tier would involve:
Gunsmithing
Bodybuilding (and any workout)
Any sport
Knitting
Automechanics
Any art
Any outdoor (because increase in muscular mass and stamina along with skills like fishing, knapping, camping, etc.)
Good tier would be things you just enjoy.
Anime
Manga
Reading
etc.
Although, reading involves problem solving skills, that's not the primary goal.
Also, media. Like Television.
There really aren't any bad hobbies because someone enjoys them. Otherwise, they would not be hobbies.
High tier would involve:
Gunsmithing
Bodybuilding (and any workout)
Any sport
Knitting
Automechanics
Any art
Any outdoor (because increase in muscular mass and stamina along with skills like fishing, knapping, camping, etc.)
Good tier would be things you just enjoy.
Anime
Manga
Reading
etc.
Although, reading involves problem solving skills, that's not the primary goal.
Also, media. Like Television.
There really aren't any bad hobbies because someone enjoys them. Otherwise, they would not be hobbies.
I could'nt agree more that collecting-based hobby are shit-tier.
I never fully understood why people would spend so much time, effort and money into a collection.
I never fully understood why people would spend so much time, effort and money into a collection.
>God tier
Video games
Shitposting
Memes
Anime
Drugs
>Shit tier
anything I don't do, which is everything else.
Video games
Shitposting
Memes
Anime
Drugs
>Shit tier
anything I don't do, which is everything else.
>>5034
I think collection is more of a history type hobby. I collect music videos. It costs me 0 dollars, and I find it very, very, interesting, especially when the videos capture a moment in time that is lost completely, like Saddam's Iraq, or the Soviet Union. The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan was a particularly beloved source of videos for me, for a while.
Stamp and Militaria collection is similar in nature. Even cigarette collection can be interesting, from a historical and anthropological perspective.
I think most collectors are basically just archivers.
I think collection is more of a history type hobby. I collect music videos. It costs me 0 dollars, and I find it very, very, interesting, especially when the videos capture a moment in time that is lost completely, like Saddam's Iraq, or the Soviet Union. The Democratic Republic of Afghanistan was a particularly beloved source of videos for me, for a while.
Stamp and Militaria collection is similar in nature. Even cigarette collection can be interesting, from a historical and anthropological perspective.
I think most collectors are basically just archivers.
I stream, play the guitar(and want to play the viola), listen to music (while skateboarding), read, write, learn how to code in vb.net and C# and finally play video games (hence streaming).
>let's create a "my hobbies are better than yours" list
No. This contributes nothing but to divide and insult the community simply because they don't do what you do. Fuck off.
No. This contributes nothing but to divide and insult the community simply because they don't do what you do. Fuck off.
>>5054
I kinda understand colliction in a hystory view point. I personnaly collect old book, but chinese cartoon firgurine, or collectiong everything that is pink, or every statue of pinguin is beyond my personnal understanding.
I kinda understand colliction in a hystory view point. I personnaly collect old book, but chinese cartoon firgurine, or collectiong everything that is pink, or every statue of pinguin is beyond my personnal understanding.
>>5136
>i'm a collector of things i like
>i don't understand collectors who collect stuff i don't like
>i'm a collector of things i like
>i don't understand collectors who collect stuff i don't like
>>5140
or
>I collect things that I think have a greater value to make me look smart in front of normalfags
or
>I collect things that I think have a greater value to make me look smart in front of normalfags
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>god tier
Whatever I do
>shit tier
Whatever you do that's not something I do
Whatever I do
>shit tier
Whatever you do that's not something I do
A hobby is a quality hobby if it is constructive (ie. leveling yourself instead of some korean mmo). This includes learning anything or being practiced at anything.
High examples:
- Music (playing and composition)
- Academics
- Bodybuilding
Low examples:
- Korean mmo
- Anime
- Collecting most things
When referring to video games, one has to play something which actually builds some kind of useful skill (ie WC3 for the macro/micromanagement, SF for general fighting game reflexes/muscle memory)
High examples:
- Music (playing and composition)
- Academics
- Bodybuilding
Low examples:
- Korean mmo
- Anime
- Collecting most things
When referring to video games, one has to play something which actually builds some kind of useful skill (ie WC3 for the macro/micromanagement, SF for general fighting game reflexes/muscle memory)
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Electronics is the closest I can get to real wizard powers, but there's a lot of study in between.
>>5158
Not the guy you responded to, but you can seriously do a lot with electronics. Just look around you, there are probably electronic devices everywhere (even appliances like toasters are electronics).
Even if you don't have the ability to design that stuff, you can still hack things with an intermediate level of knowledge. I personally attach sensors to all sorts of things and have them report into my computer. It's fun.
Not the guy you responded to, but you can seriously do a lot with electronics. Just look around you, there are probably electronic devices everywhere (even appliances like toasters are electronics).
Even if you don't have the ability to design that stuff, you can still hack things with an intermediate level of knowledge. I personally attach sensors to all sorts of things and have them report into my computer. It's fun.
Video games are shit-tier though. They're a complete waste of time and you can't tell me that it's possible to create a single game that isn't repetitive as fuck when the medium itself is so limited. The problem is that compared to other hobbies, video gaming offers a very low level of engagement with the physical world. The interfaces we use to play games pretty much haven't changed since we started and this is including more recent innovations like the oculus rift. Face it, without drastically new interfaces and futuristic technology, saying that your hobby is "playing video games" is a bit like saying your hobby is watching TV - empty and mind-numbing.
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>god tier
Hobbies that expand your mind/thinking
>good tier
Hobbies that are productive
>meh tier
Hobbies that only exist for entertainment
>normie tier
Sports, bodybuilding/weight lifting
Hobbies that expand your mind/thinking
>good tier
Hobbies that are productive
>meh tier
Hobbies that only exist for entertainment
>normie tier
Sports, bodybuilding/weight lifting
>>5182
Physical activity/hobbies are now normie-tier? You might want to reconsider your deluded thinking because not every wizard is completely physically dormant. There's nothing normie about being physically competent at a sport or optimizing the individual physique.
Physical activity/hobbies are now normie-tier? You might want to reconsider your deluded thinking because not every wizard is completely physically dormant. There's nothing normie about being physically competent at a sport or optimizing the individual physique.
I like to inject a cocktail fluids in the heads of newborns to induce hydrocephalus in them…
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>>5158
As >>5172 said there are many things to be done, but there's a long process before you can start designing and making something useful. It's mostly trial and error using predesigned circuits and learning how they work, after two years of practice you can start joining things up intuitively, but even after years of learning I still bump into new and difficult things.
Now I've been making high voltage circuits with scrap from old monitors and some radio emitters and detectors. It can be cheap as a hobby as you know where to search for components, I don't spend more than $20-30 a month, but the tool can be very expensive, I'm still dumpster diving at the nearest uni hoping someday I'll find those old oscilloscopes they are still using, I got some monitors though.
If you know how to overcome frustration is a good way to spend time.
You can also make synthesizers, signal jammers, amplifiers… and many other things that are not very useful, but they're nice to build and watch.
As >>5172 said there are many things to be done, but there's a long process before you can start designing and making something useful. It's mostly trial and error using predesigned circuits and learning how they work, after two years of practice you can start joining things up intuitively, but even after years of learning I still bump into new and difficult things.
Now I've been making high voltage circuits with scrap from old monitors and some radio emitters and detectors. It can be cheap as a hobby as you know where to search for components, I don't spend more than $20-30 a month, but the tool can be very expensive, I'm still dumpster diving at the nearest uni hoping someday I'll find those old oscilloscopes they are still using, I got some monitors though.
If you know how to overcome frustration is a good way to spend time.
You can also make synthesizers, signal jammers, amplifiers… and many other things that are not very useful, but they're nice to build and watch.
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There is no escape, why is every place on the internet infested with the goddamned meatheads
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>>5054
Nice. I'm personally a big fan of Assad's Syria.
Nice. I'm personally a big fan of Assad's Syria.
>>5182
this list was really good until the last thing.
no hobby can be considered "normie-teir" unless it involves interaction and cooperation with other normies. playing basketball is intrinsically a normie thing, practicing dribbling and shooting isn't.
this list was really good until the last thing.
no hobby can be considered "normie-teir" unless it involves interaction and cooperation with other normies. playing basketball is intrinsically a normie thing, practicing dribbling and shooting isn't.
>>6212
>fun
>implying the real reason you're lifting isn't to impress succubi and hang out with the chads
Fuck you and every other lifting normie in this thread.
>fun
>implying the real reason you're lifting isn't to impress succubi and hang out with the chads
Fuck you and every other lifting normie in this thread.
>>4674
Normie list? Show me a normie that reads books instead of playing video games. Your list sucks, man.
Normie list? Show me a normie that reads books instead of playing video games. Your list sucks, man.
>>6235
Get a load of this silly, projecting anon. Believe it or not but people do actually improve their own physical condition with the sole purpose of improving themselves in yet another aspect. It is no different in essence, to improving their mental capacity and knowledge.
Get a load of this silly, projecting anon. Believe it or not but people do actually improve their own physical condition with the sole purpose of improving themselves in yet another aspect. It is no different in essence, to improving their mental capacity and knowledge.
>>6237
Agreed, writing and reading being "normie" while various varations of the no.1 chad hobby are God / high tier, what a joke.
Agreed, writing and reading being "normie" while various varations of the no.1 chad hobby are God / high tier, what a joke.
>>6237
Since at least 99% of the world have had sex or ever socialized almost everyone who reads is a normalfag. You can't serious believe that all normalfags are the same in that way when almost everyone in the world is a normalfag.
Since at least 99% of the world have had sex or ever socialized almost everyone who reads is a normalfag. You can't serious believe that all normalfags are the same in that way when almost everyone in the world is a normalfag.
>things I like
*martial arts
*gardening
*reading
*video games
*biking
*walking in the woods
*translating
*conworlding
*conlanging
*consuming drugs
>things I dislike
*mostly everything else
>things I hate
*sports revolving around chasing an object
*lifting in public areas
*running
*fake martial arts
*fashion
Only tier list that matters.
*martial arts
*gardening
*reading
*video games
*biking
*walking in the woods
*translating
*conworlding
*conlanging
*consuming drugs
>things I dislike
*mostly everything else
>things I hate
*sports revolving around chasing an object
*lifting in public areas
*running
*fake martial arts
*fashion
Only tier list that matters.
>tier list for hobbies
I'm going to have to disagree with both your list and the entire idea of it.
A hobby is just something that somebody likes to do. It's usually sacred and special to that person. It shouldn't matter if your are "better" or "worse" than someone else's. I'm just thankful that I even have a hobby because for a long I didn't and lot of time ended up getting wasted. This comparing is just another perverse normie pissing contest!
I'm going to have to disagree with both your list and the entire idea of it.
A hobby is just something that somebody likes to do. It's usually sacred and special to that person. It shouldn't matter if your are "better" or "worse" than someone else's. I'm just thankful that I even have a hobby because for a long I didn't and lot of time ended up getting wasted. This comparing is just another perverse normie pissing contest!
>>4656
Here's my half assed list, I might come back and add something If I think of more or have something to clarify.
God tier:
Any hobby of high creation (any art, building, tinkering, clock making, smithing etc)
Any hobby which involves high amounts of reasoning and thinking (mathematics, logical puzzles, philosophical arguments, games like go or chess against significantly skilled opponents)
High tier:
Hobbies of low creation (candle making, knitting, homebrewing, cheesemaking, etc)
Hobbies which do not directly create objects, but still have some act of creation or tending built into them (farming, bee keeping, animal keeping/training etc)
Hobbies that demonstrate high degrees of training and or physical dexterity (Playing musical instruments, singing, speed crafting, etc)
Middle tier:
Physical activities which are impressive on some technical level (juggling, acrobatics, trick shooting, etc)
Physical activities that actually require some actual degree of serious skill and dedication as well as thought (Mountain rock climbing, survivalist bow hunting, sailing old fashioned boats)
Assembling objects one did not design themselves (model cars/planes/mechs, electronic devices, mechanical devices etc)
Low tier:
Passive media consumption (reading, tv, movies, anime)
Games which do not require significant amounts of thought and understanding (many video games, most board games, all party games)
Consuming drugs
Activities which aren't really hobbies but are for some reason sometimes considered hobbies (walking, jogging, sight seeing etc)
Collecting items as a hobby in and of itself and not as part of another hobby
Physical activities which are either passive, normal tier. or too common and run of the mill, having a low barrier of entry (sports, riding a bike in the park, skydiving, hiking, lifting, driving too fast on public roads etc)
Any hobby which is the use of another prebuilt object for entertainment, that is not tied into the hobby of building, maintaining or altering such objects, and does not require much out of the owner of the object (Driving cars, Talking to people over radio, water skiing, ect)
Here's my half assed list, I might come back and add something If I think of more or have something to clarify.
God tier:
Any hobby of high creation (any art, building, tinkering, clock making, smithing etc)
Any hobby which involves high amounts of reasoning and thinking (mathematics, logical puzzles, philosophical arguments, games like go or chess against significantly skilled opponents)
High tier:
Hobbies of low creation (candle making, knitting, homebrewing, cheesemaking, etc)
Hobbies which do not directly create objects, but still have some act of creation or tending built into them (farming, bee keeping, animal keeping/training etc)
Hobbies that demonstrate high degrees of training and or physical dexterity (Playing musical instruments, singing, speed crafting, etc)
Middle tier:
Physical activities which are impressive on some technical level (juggling, acrobatics, trick shooting, etc)
Physical activities that actually require some actual degree of serious skill and dedication as well as thought (Mountain rock climbing, survivalist bow hunting, sailing old fashioned boats)
Assembling objects one did not design themselves (model cars/planes/mechs, electronic devices, mechanical devices etc)
Low tier:
Passive media consumption (reading, tv, movies, anime)
Games which do not require significant amounts of thought and understanding (many video games, most board games, all party games)
Consuming drugs
Activities which aren't really hobbies but are for some reason sometimes considered hobbies (walking, jogging, sight seeing etc)
Collecting items as a hobby in and of itself and not as part of another hobby
Physical activities which are either passive, normal tier. or too common and run of the mill, having a low barrier of entry (sports, riding a bike in the park, skydiving, hiking, lifting, driving too fast on public roads etc)
Any hobby which is the use of another prebuilt object for entertainment, that is not tied into the hobby of building, maintaining or altering such objects, and does not require much out of the owner of the object (Driving cars, Talking to people over radio, water skiing, ect)
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God tier:
>studying a subject intensively on ones own time
>learning or practicing a language
>learning or practicing an instrument
>learning or practicing an art/craft/trade
>playing sports and/or exercising with the intention of perfecting one's body
Decent tier:
>reading
>listening to music
>playing sports and/or exercising because it's fun or an opportunity to bond with a team
>cooking
>photography
>hunting/fishing/wildlife exploration
>camping
>experiencing art (going to concerts/museums etc)
Absolute and utter shit tier:
>jerking off to gook cartoons
>playing video games
>cosplay
>watching sports
>collecting
>studying a subject intensively on ones own time
>learning or practicing a language
>learning or practicing an instrument
>learning or practicing an art/craft/trade
>playing sports and/or exercising with the intention of perfecting one's body
Decent tier:
>reading
>listening to music
>playing sports and/or exercising because it's fun or an opportunity to bond with a team
>cooking
>photography
>hunting/fishing/wildlife exploration
>camping
>experiencing art (going to concerts/museums etc)
Absolute and utter shit tier:
>jerking off to gook cartoons
>playing video games
>cosplay
>watching sports
>collecting
>>6198
Me too. I've been following the Syrian civil war for probably over a year now. Things haven't been going well for the regime for the past couple of months so I've been haven't trouble reading the latest updates. I just can't bear the thought of the Baathists losing to the Islamist extremists :(
Me too. I've been following the Syrian civil war for probably over a year now. Things haven't been going well for the regime for the past couple of months so I've been haven't trouble reading the latest updates. I just can't bear the thought of the Baathists losing to the Islamist extremists :(
I don't know why mods keep this thread in /hob/, but it has nothing to do with /hob/.
Why don't we can let it die?
Every time I read "God tier" I want to close the tab. The only purpose of this thread is barging and trolling.
Why don't we can let it die?
Every time I read "God tier" I want to close the tab. The only purpose of this thread is barging and trolling.
>God Tier
Things I like most
>High tier
Things I like a lot
>OK tier
Things I like or am indifferent towards
>Low tier
Things I kinda dislike but would still be friend with someone who likes it
>Shit tier
Things I dislike.
That's what I see.
Things I like most
>High tier
Things I like a lot
>OK tier
Things I like or am indifferent towards
>Low tier
Things I kinda dislike but would still be friend with someone who likes it
>Shit tier
Things I dislike.
That's what I see.
>>6199
I can completely understand collecting but it seems kind of shit honestly.
It's a hobby that can be completely fulfilled with money and nothing else.
I can completely understand collecting but it seems kind of shit honestly.
It's a hobby that can be completely fulfilled with money and nothing else.
>>9158
I'm retard. I had some threads hidden, but I didn't think about for this one. I don't know why.
Thanks I'm not kidding
I'm retard. I had some threads hidden, but I didn't think about for this one. I don't know why.
Thanks I'm not kidding
>>8785
>Passive media consumption (reading, tv, movies, anime)
yeah theres truth to this, I spend all day reading a lot of highfalutin academic books, but since I'm just a passive consumer, I can still feel my brain rotting away
>Passive media consumption (reading, tv, movies, anime)
yeah theres truth to this, I spend all day reading a lot of highfalutin academic books, but since I'm just a passive consumer, I can still feel my brain rotting away
> god tier
inventing
coming up with advanced scientific theories
advanced meditation where you learn the secrets of the universe
real magic(k)
questioning the foundations of the universe and doing something to find answers
basically being Newton or Descartes
> wiz tier
reading technical, non-fiction books
programming
painting
writing novels and screenplays
drawing (good, non-porn) comics
watching documentaries
> high tier
playing and practicing individual sports
reading imaginative fiction or high literature
playing RPGs, strategy and simulation games
watching scifi or drama shows and movies
playing strategic board games
writing jokes
collecting artwork and rarities
fapping to imagination
> okay tier
reading news articles
yoga
dance
playing and practicing team sports
fake magic (tricks and illusions)
playing action and adventure games
watching
doodling
collecting stamps
fapping to illustrated porn
actually drawing that porn yourself
watching wrestling before 2005
watching anime and western cartoons
watching sitcoms and comedy movies
> low tier
playing puzzle games, party games and social games
reading fluff magazines
collecting cards
eating junk food
fapping to filmed porn
watching current wrestling (past 10 years)
cosplay and dressup (especially as furries and mlp)
watching soap operas and daytime talk shows
> sewer tier - fedora wing
reading Dawkins on non-science issues
pc "building" (just spending a shitload of money and assembling connecting parts) to brag about your gamer status
being euphoric
trolling religious sites and videos and having shitty philosophical debates
exaggerating your IQ to at least 150
thinking you are twice as old as you really are and pretending to be that age online
spending the majority of your online time on reddit
writing fanfics
watching only japanese "puroresu" and indy wrestling while being a "smark"
> sewer tier - dudebra normie/failed normie wing
watching sports
auto repair and modification
jewjitsu & MMA in general
pickup "artistry"
bullying
exaggerating your cock size online to over 9"
spending the majority of your online time on facebook
watching action movies or shows
becoming the canvas for a tattoo "artist"
having a "mancave" to escape your nagging wife
inventing
coming up with advanced scientific theories
advanced meditation where you learn the secrets of the universe
real magic(k)
questioning the foundations of the universe and doing something to find answers
basically being Newton or Descartes
> wiz tier
reading technical, non-fiction books
programming
painting
writing novels and screenplays
drawing (good, non-porn) comics
watching documentaries
> high tier
playing and practicing individual sports
reading imaginative fiction or high literature
playing RPGs, strategy and simulation games
watching scifi or drama shows and movies
playing strategic board games
writing jokes
collecting artwork and rarities
fapping to imagination
> okay tier
reading news articles
yoga
dance
playing and practicing team sports
fake magic (tricks and illusions)
playing action and adventure games
watching
doodling
collecting stamps
fapping to illustrated porn
actually drawing that porn yourself
watching wrestling before 2005
watching anime and western cartoons
watching sitcoms and comedy movies
> low tier
playing puzzle games, party games and social games
reading fluff magazines
collecting cards
eating junk food
fapping to filmed porn
watching current wrestling (past 10 years)
cosplay and dressup (especially as furries and mlp)
watching soap operas and daytime talk shows
> sewer tier - fedora wing
reading Dawkins on non-science issues
pc "building" (just spending a shitload of money and assembling connecting parts) to brag about your gamer status
being euphoric
trolling religious sites and videos and having shitty philosophical debates
exaggerating your IQ to at least 150
thinking you are twice as old as you really are and pretending to be that age online
spending the majority of your online time on reddit
writing fanfics
watching only japanese "puroresu" and indy wrestling while being a "smark"
> sewer tier - dudebra normie/failed normie wing
watching sports
auto repair and modification
jewjitsu & MMA in general
pickup "artistry"
bullying
exaggerating your cock size online to over 9"
spending the majority of your online time on facebook
watching action movies or shows
becoming the canvas for a tattoo "artist"
having a "mancave" to escape your nagging wife
>>9329
> pc "building"
> auto "building"
I think the key difference between these two is that you can't have sex in your pc case. This makes the latter more attractive to dudebra tatted-up normies.
> pc "building"
> auto "building"
I think the key difference between these two is that you can't have sex in your pc case. This makes the latter more attractive to dudebra tatted-up normies.
>>8785
>Talking to people over radio
You seen to terribly underestimate the technical aspects of amateur radio.
Now C-Bers on the other hand, I would have agreed on that a few years ago, but it has become so esoteric now that it goes straight into the weird tear, really.
What about DX:ing, which is basically "oh wow, I can tune into the carrier of this very distant transmitter, better write a post card."
>>5158
Well, the hobbytier electronics have stagnated to maybe mid 90s state of the art, with double sided boards and maybe 5025 packaging. The one's who do better are the very few.
>Talking to people over radio
You seen to terribly underestimate the technical aspects of amateur radio.
Now C-Bers on the other hand, I would have agreed on that a few years ago, but it has become so esoteric now that it goes straight into the weird tear, really.
What about DX:ing, which is basically "oh wow, I can tune into the carrier of this very distant transmitter, better write a post card."
>>5158
Well, the hobbytier electronics have stagnated to maybe mid 90s state of the art, with double sided boards and maybe 5025 packaging. The one's who do better are the very few.
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>putting nfl and sports in high tier or god tier
get the fuck out, normie jock fags
>god tier
film/cinema
internet(youtube, learning)
geography
waifus
>high tier
masturbation
reading
suicidal ideation
video games
anime
>shit tier/normie tier
sports (nfl, nba, ect)
cars
skateboarding
graffiti
music(with a few exceptions)
church(theology)
writing
tattooing
driving
working
get the fuck out, normie jock fags
>god tier
film/cinema
internet(youtube, learning)
geography
waifus
>high tier
masturbation
reading
suicidal ideation
video games
anime
>shit tier/normie tier
sports (nfl, nba, ect)
cars
skateboarding
graffiti
music(with a few exceptions)
church(theology)
writing
tattooing
driving
working
>>9369
Well I am afraid I am not too well acquainted with the particulars. If it really does require mastery of technical aspects then by all means classify it as a higher tier hobby.
Well I am afraid I am not too well acquainted with the particulars. If it really does require mastery of technical aspects then by all means classify it as a higher tier hobby.
>>9484
An integral part of films is the score. How is music a shit/normie tier hobby when you hold film in such high regard?
An integral part of films is the score. How is music a shit/normie tier hobby when you hold film in such high regard?
I think they should be categorised by the outcomes they produce.
>Creative productive (Tier 1)
Art (Painting, illust, CGI, etc)
Writing
Composing/Songwriting
Gunsmithing
Pottery
Knitting
Film Making
>Productive (Tier 2)
FIshing
Cooking
Beekeeping
Gardening/Flower Arranging
Photography
Metal Detecting
Candle Making
Soap Making
Programming
Amateur Radio
Homebrewing
Mechanics/Tinkering
>Productive Knowledge (Can contribute to a product) (Tier 3)
Origami
Musical Instruments
Calligraphy
>Knowledge (Enlightenment, histories) (Tier 4)
Technology
Mycology
Reading
Mathematics
>Consumerist Productive (Collection building) (Tier 5)
Antiquing
Art collecting
Music
Puzzles
>Consumerist Passive (No product collected) (Tier 6)
Video Games
Television
Movies
Following Sports
Skydiving
Skateboarding
>Social Competitive (Tier 7)
Sports
Air Sports
Online Games
Martial Arts
Juggling
Darts
Wizchan
>Self-Image (Tier 8)
Bodybuilding
Cosplay
Reddit
Acting
>Destructive (Tier 9)
Vandalism
Activism
Voting Conservative
Voting Liberal
Self-Harm
Wizchan Avataring
>It Is A Mystery (Tier X)
Ghost Hunting
Inawoodsing
Hiking (in search of bones of course)
Visitor Watch
Wizchan Hidden Paranormal Board
Perpetual Cyclic Siphon Alternators
Discovering Tier 11
>Primordial instinctive (Tier 12)
Sex
Human Worship
Drugs
Alcohol
>Creative productive (Tier 1)
Art (Painting, illust, CGI, etc)
Writing
Composing/Songwriting
Gunsmithing
Pottery
Knitting
Film Making
>Productive (Tier 2)
FIshing
Cooking
Beekeeping
Gardening/Flower Arranging
Photography
Metal Detecting
Candle Making
Soap Making
Programming
Amateur Radio
Homebrewing
Mechanics/Tinkering
>Productive Knowledge (Can contribute to a product) (Tier 3)
Origami
Musical Instruments
Calligraphy
>Knowledge (Enlightenment, histories) (Tier 4)
Technology
Mycology
Reading
Mathematics
>Consumerist Productive (Collection building) (Tier 5)
Antiquing
Art collecting
Music
Puzzles
>Consumerist Passive (No product collected) (Tier 6)
Video Games
Television
Movies
Following Sports
Skydiving
Skateboarding
>Social Competitive (Tier 7)
Sports
Air Sports
Online Games
Martial Arts
Juggling
Darts
Wizchan
>Self-Image (Tier 8)
Bodybuilding
Cosplay
Acting
>Destructive (Tier 9)
Vandalism
Activism
Voting Conservative
Voting Liberal
Self-Harm
Wizchan Avataring
>It Is A Mystery (Tier X)
Ghost Hunting
Inawoodsing
Hiking (in search of bones of course)
Visitor Watch
Wizchan Hidden Paranormal Board
Perpetual Cyclic Siphon Alternators
Discovering Tier 11
>Primordial instinctive (Tier 12)
Sex
Human Worship
Drugs
Alcohol
>>4674
>Video Games
I play videogames day in and day out, but I recognize it's a poor hobby because it's not actually productive.
>Video Games
I play videogames day in and day out, but I recognize it's a poor hobby because it's not actually productive.
>God tier (anything creative)
Mathematics & Science
Writing
Drawing/Painting
Modeling/Sculpting
Programming
>High tier (anything difficult that builds something but isn't creative)
Learning
Reading literature
Bodybuilding
Exercise
>Low tier (anything that's pure entertainment)
Reading genre/pop books
Movies/Animation/TV Shows
Visual novels/Manga/Comics
Watching (e)sports & let's plays
Video Games
>Crap tier (anything that costs a lot of money)
Collecting
MMOs
Travelling
Marriage & Children
Drugs
>Degenerate tier (hobbies whose primary function is to socialize)
Partying
Drinking
Clubbing
Orgies
IRC/Omegle/Chatrooms
Anonymous imageboards
Mathematics & Science
Writing
Drawing/Painting
Modeling/Sculpting
Programming
>High tier (anything difficult that builds something but isn't creative)
Learning
Reading literature
Bodybuilding
Exercise
>Low tier (anything that's pure entertainment)
Reading genre/pop books
Movies/Animation/TV Shows
Visual novels/Manga/Comics
Watching (e)sports & let's plays
Video Games
>Crap tier (anything that costs a lot of money)
Collecting
MMOs
Travelling
Marriage & Children
Drugs
>Degenerate tier (hobbies whose primary function is to socialize)
Partying
Drinking
Clubbing
Orgies
IRC/Omegle/Chatrooms
Anonymous imageboards
Why grade the hobbies? It's not like most of us here don't have any other hobbies than one or two.
>>>>5054
I recall a person collecting pins, at first glance it might seem somewhat useless. But this person had a story to nearly all her pins, she knew the background to why it was produced, the historical event it was to commemorate, materials and manufacturing techniques etc., and I think nomatter what one collects, if one goes far enough indepth there's a lot of knowledge to gain that may be useful in many other situations as well.
I recall a person collecting pins, at first glance it might seem somewhat useless. But this person had a story to nearly all her pins, she knew the background to why it was produced, the historical event it was to commemorate, materials and manufacturing techniques etc., and I think nomatter what one collects, if one goes far enough indepth there's a lot of knowledge to gain that may be useful in many other situations as well.
Generally its creation based hobbies > experience hobbies > consumption hobbies.
Neutral is enjoying experiences. Sure things like hiking and sky diving could technically be considered consumption because you are paying for gear and the plane ride, and some go overboard with the latest brand namebhiking boots and whatnot for the purposes of this tier list consider them neutral.
Neutral is enjoying experiences. Sure things like hiking and sky diving could technically be considered consumption because you are paying for gear and the plane ride, and some go overboard with the latest brand namebhiking boots and whatnot for the purposes of this tier list consider them neutral.
>>18402
i agree with you on this. therefore i don't see reading as godtier because you are just consuming and rate making art above it, unlike OP.
i agree with you on this. therefore i don't see reading as godtier because you are just consuming and rate making art above it, unlike OP.
>>18402
But that seems to be implying that normies have better hobbies than Wizard shut-ins. They definitely have more opportunity to experience.
But that seems to be implying that normies have better hobbies than Wizard shut-ins. They definitely have more opportunity to experience.
>>18402
If you notice this is inversely proportional with normies, as Consumption hobbies>experience hobbies>creation hobbies
it is even more tricky because consumption is limited to what society approves at the moment.
Basically, Normies don't like to make stuff themselves, and experience stuff? well lately "YOLO" popularized them SPECIALLY if they are status enhancers.
If you notice this is inversely proportional with normies, as Consumption hobbies>experience hobbies>creation hobbies
it is even more tricky because consumption is limited to what society approves at the moment.
Basically, Normies don't like to make stuff themselves, and experience stuff? well lately "YOLO" popularized them SPECIALLY if they are status enhancers.
>High Tier
-Pretending to be a bird
-Sending thousands of pictures of babies crying everyday to politicians
-Creating replicas of existing social media accounts but change their bios and descriptions to call for help and say someone took over their other account and are intending to kill off their friendslist one by one
>Good Tier
-Knitting
>Medium Tier
-Taking a shit on the chests of your family when they sleep
-Human vivisection
-Recording your laundry machine with a brick inside of it and selling it as lo-fi pretentiousness
>Shit Tier
-Taking a shit on your own chest while you sleep
-Playing bass
-Pretending to be a bird
-Sending thousands of pictures of babies crying everyday to politicians
-Creating replicas of existing social media accounts but change their bios and descriptions to call for help and say someone took over their other account and are intending to kill off their friendslist one by one
>Good Tier
-Knitting
>Medium Tier
-Taking a shit on the chests of your family when they sleep
-Human vivisection
-Recording your laundry machine with a brick inside of it and selling it as lo-fi pretentiousness
>Shit Tier
-Taking a shit on your own chest while you sleep
-Playing bass
>>4674
>music is High Tier
>singing is shit tier
How is regularly practicing and constantly trying to sound good on an instrument that much less respectable than regularly practicing and trying to sound good while singing in your eyes? Not mad, I just want you to explain your reasoning.
>music is High Tier
>singing is shit tier
How is regularly practicing and constantly trying to sound good on an instrument that much less respectable than regularly practicing and trying to sound good while singing in your eyes? Not mad, I just want you to explain your reasoning.
>>15403
>>15490
I agree that it is an art, since photos taken by pro artists usually look great, and you have to carefully consider things like light and how they'll effect the photo. Also whenever I take a photo it turns out like shit, so like any other art form, it's easy to be shit at but hard to be good at.
>>15490
I agree that it is an art, since photos taken by pro artists usually look great, and you have to carefully consider things like light and how they'll effect the photo. Also whenever I take a photo it turns out like shit, so like any other art form, it's easy to be shit at but hard to be good at.
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Why does this thread even exist? Why is it still getting posts? Why did it get any posts at all?
Shouldn't this board be for constructive discussion about hobbies and not stupid bullshit like opinionated lists? Are we not above piddly, divisive "My taste is great and your taste is shit" garbage?
I just realized this thread is almost exactly a year old, fuck. Stop posting in it, please.
Shouldn't this board be for constructive discussion about hobbies and not stupid bullshit like opinionated lists? Are we not above piddly, divisive "My taste is great and your taste is shit" garbage?
I just realized this thread is almost exactly a year old, fuck. Stop posting in it, please.
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>Reading
Boring, un-interactive and lame.
>Writing
OC level faggotry.
Even skateboarding can be harder.
Boring, un-interactive and lame.
>Writing
OC level faggotry.
Even skateboarding can be harder.
Since these lists are based on people's personal interests I'll just put mine.
Reading
Writing
Math
martial arts
Go (aka weiqi, baduk)
Gardening
Parkour
Reading
Writing
Math
martial arts
Go (aka weiqi, baduk)
Gardening
Parkour
>>21709
I used to be a long distance runner but got injured. My life has been going downhill ever since. Other than that I would be happy to have any hobby. Something I can mindlessly enjoy. The only thing I find interesting is studying (psychology).
I used to be a long distance runner but got injured. My life has been going downhill ever since. Other than that I would be happy to have any hobby. Something I can mindlessly enjoy. The only thing I find interesting is studying (psychology).
I collect flowers and other plant life, press and index them and then keep them in folders. I just wanted to collect something without spending money. It's pretty cool and peaceful to walk aroumd the woods to look for something you haven't got. Ultimate collection imo.
>>22260
2:01 is what Syria use to look like before the western backed rebels divided and ruined the country.
2:01 is what Syria use to look like before the western backed rebels divided and ruined the country.
>>20897
Immensely astute post. I struggle to find words to describe my agreement and approval. I'm very impressed, and I implore everyone reading to take this Anon's insight to heart.
Saging
Immensely astute post. I struggle to find words to describe my agreement and approval. I'm very impressed, and I implore everyone reading to take this Anon's insight to heart.
Saging
Collecting and listening to music is a deep and rewarding hobby. Music is a powerful art form, basically poetry on steroids. It's worth collecting because there are gems and it's fun to be able to play your favorites whenever you want. Music is a great way to escape.
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>>27157
Necromancy can be pretty fun I hear
Necromancy can be pretty fun I hear
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>>27157
Agate hunting, or rock hunting in general
Agate hunting, or rock hunting in general
>>27157
fitness, observing animals/nature, yoga, cooking, obsessive information collection (note taking/data collection), exercise-oriented meditation.
fitness, observing animals/nature, yoga, cooking, obsessive information collection (note taking/data collection), exercise-oriented meditation.
Bodybuilding is shit tier, below normie tier even. Powerlifting or Olympic Weightlifting is a high tier hobby though. If you disagree, you are a normie.
>>27157
History, bird watching, anime and manga.
Highly recommend bird watching, especially if you're a NEET. It can be quite enjoyable.
History, bird watching, anime and manga.
Highly recommend bird watching, especially if you're a NEET. It can be quite enjoyable.
>>27159
Looks like "hunting physical objects" is perfect for wizards who aren't too attached to sitting in their tower.
It's a lonely hobby that cannot be outsourced (if said material is only more or less common in your area). You could make some money on the side and combine it with bicycling, hiking and camping.
I'd be interested to do some meteor hunting as it cannot be grown by multinational corporations, nor can richfag geologists x-ray search for it from their faggy planes. Does anyone know other such materials one could look for that big companeis cannot efficiently find with high tech?
(Truffles for example can be cultivated and is thus not a good hobby).
Looks like "hunting physical objects" is perfect for wizards who aren't too attached to sitting in their tower.
It's a lonely hobby that cannot be outsourced (if said material is only more or less common in your area). You could make some money on the side and combine it with bicycling, hiking and camping.
I'd be interested to do some meteor hunting as it cannot be grown by multinational corporations, nor can richfag geologists x-ray search for it from their faggy planes. Does anyone know other such materials one could look for that big companeis cannot efficiently find with high tech?
(Truffles for example can be cultivated and is thus not a good hobby).
>god-tier
Anime
Literature
Creating any form of art
Collecting historical items
Watching arthouse films
Anything related to nature
>ok tier
Video games that actually require skill or dedication
Non-normie sports like biking or taking walks
listening to music
Creating things that wouldn't be classified as art by most people (clothes, food)
Manga/comics
>shit tier
Collecting useless, non-historical items like bottle caps or something
Anything related to normie sports like rugby, football or basketball, just to name a few examples
Lifting for the purpose of impressing others
Online games/normie games
Watching movies spefically targeted towards normies (like over-the-top-action movies or romcoms)
Studying abrahamic religions (judaism, christianity, islam)
Anything related to cars
Anime
Literature
Creating any form of art
Collecting historical items
Watching arthouse films
Anything related to nature
>ok tier
Video games that actually require skill or dedication
Non-normie sports like biking or taking walks
listening to music
Creating things that wouldn't be classified as art by most people (clothes, food)
Manga/comics
>shit tier
Collecting useless, non-historical items like bottle caps or something
Anything related to normie sports like rugby, football or basketball, just to name a few examples
Lifting for the purpose of impressing others
Online games/normie games
Watching movies spefically targeted towards normies (like over-the-top-action movies or romcoms)
Studying abrahamic religions (judaism, christianity, islam)
Anything related to cars
>>27528
>god-tier
>Anime
>shit tier
>Studying abrahamic religions
Well congratulations, you got your (you) for the day. I hope it's as delicious as you always imagined it would be.
>god-tier
>Anime
>shit tier
>Studying abrahamic religions
Well congratulations, you got your (you) for the day. I hope it's as delicious as you always imagined it would be.
>>27528
I really don't see how hoarding historical items instead of studying history is really god tier, and I also don't believe having a propensity to be sexually attracted to trees and jacking off on them is either.
Bottlecaps are historical? I really don't see the difference between artifacts from the rise and fall of some failed nation and the rise and fall from some soda company. They're both equally arbitrary in the eyes of "history".
I really don't see how hoarding historical items instead of studying history is really god tier, and I also don't believe having a propensity to be sexually attracted to trees and jacking off on them is either.
Bottlecaps are historical? I really don't see the difference between artifacts from the rise and fall of some failed nation and the rise and fall from some soda company. They're both equally arbitrary in the eyes of "history".
>>27557
I suppose there is more activity in collecting historical items than just reading text on a screen.
Even something as mundane as stamp-collecting shows more activity than just passively reading.
I suppose there is more activity in collecting historical items than just reading text on a screen.
Even something as mundane as stamp-collecting shows more activity than just passively reading.
Every time this thread gets bumped I think to myself
>we've got to be near autosage by now
Not even halfway there.
>>27557
Hey, no reason to bring my bottlecaps into this
>we've got to be near autosage by now
Not even halfway there.
>>27557
Hey, no reason to bring my bottlecaps into this
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>>4656
Camping in the backcountry should be at the top.
No social interaction required.
On a weekend, I bike into the mountains. I take a light kit, no tent or bag, just a serape and tarp, chain the bike a few hundred yards into the woods, hop a few fences as the lang changes from county to federal to private, hike for about 3 hours into the forest, post up on the edge of the mountain, hide the campsite to the point where nobody but me could find it, dig a 3 foot deep pit so people cant see the flames from my fire, start the fire at dusk so people cant see the smoke, and relax.
In life, I generally like stimulation at all times. I constantly read and listen to music if im outside, and in my room I obviously post.
Being out in the wild is different, as I no longer require constant entertainment. Out there I can be absolutely delighted with staring into the trees, staring at the flames, observing animals, and listening to the sounds of the forest.
Of course, my weekend trips are babby shit compared to actual excursions into the southern rockies where im 50 miles away from other humans, but that cant exactly be done on a weekend.
It also opens up new places to read write, play music, hunt, fish, etc.
On those little weekend trips, this is my view going to bed. I am usually very averse to people, but the way the plains separate the mountains from the city puts me at a comfortable distance from humanity.
Seeing the city from such a distance does not remind me of normies. At that point they dont exist to me. The city does not remind me of people. Its just pretty lights in the distance.
Camping in the backcountry should be at the top.
No social interaction required.
On a weekend, I bike into the mountains. I take a light kit, no tent or bag, just a serape and tarp, chain the bike a few hundred yards into the woods, hop a few fences as the lang changes from county to federal to private, hike for about 3 hours into the forest, post up on the edge of the mountain, hide the campsite to the point where nobody but me could find it, dig a 3 foot deep pit so people cant see the flames from my fire, start the fire at dusk so people cant see the smoke, and relax.
In life, I generally like stimulation at all times. I constantly read and listen to music if im outside, and in my room I obviously post.
Being out in the wild is different, as I no longer require constant entertainment. Out there I can be absolutely delighted with staring into the trees, staring at the flames, observing animals, and listening to the sounds of the forest.
Of course, my weekend trips are babby shit compared to actual excursions into the southern rockies where im 50 miles away from other humans, but that cant exactly be done on a weekend.
It also opens up new places to read write, play music, hunt, fish, etc.
On those little weekend trips, this is my view going to bed. I am usually very averse to people, but the way the plains separate the mountains from the city puts me at a comfortable distance from humanity.
Seeing the city from such a distance does not remind me of normies. At that point they dont exist to me. The city does not remind me of people. Its just pretty lights in the distance.
>>21717
what was your injury?
If you cant run, try swimming. It puts less stress on the body, and though it is not as enjoyable as running in nature, its still a good time.
what was your injury?
If you cant run, try swimming. It puts less stress on the body, and though it is not as enjoyable as running in nature, its still a good time.
>>29105
Oh I see that now, the replyer worded it incorrectly so I read the wrong thing.
It's just odd to see brought up, I know I've mentioned that I hoard them before, but it's not like I said it was a hobby, just something I do.
Oh I see that now, the replyer worded it incorrectly so I read the wrong thing.
It's just odd to see brought up, I know I've mentioned that I hoard them before, but it's not like I said it was a hobby, just something I do.
>>29102
That whole scenario seems extremely beautiful, if only I lived in a country with extremely scenic places to camp, oh well, have fun doing what you're doing anon.
That whole scenario seems extremely beautiful, if only I lived in a country with extremely scenic places to camp, oh well, have fun doing what you're doing anon.
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>>29133
>>29136
Its not something extremely hard to do.
I kinda grew up out there because my parents would take me a lot. As I grew up and became more introverted, I would rarely go. Hiking on trails puts you into contact with too many normies, and its too fake. Everything, from the trail, to the woods, to the entire area is fabricated (I worked on a trail crew for a year, half the job is making it look more wild while pruning the entire mountain.)
When I was 15 or 16, I started going into the actual, non meme wilderness. I could only make it out there maybe 2x per year, but It was amazing.
By trying to replicate the feeling, I go on private or federal land and camp incognito. You may think there is no place to camp, but there always is, its just not on a map.
Normies camp where its legal, where they have a trail nearby and a ton of regulations to follow. A wizard can hop a fence and move off into the woods, camping wherever there is ground and a little windshield to hide him, and be alone for a few days with 0 contact with people.
Point is, hop on google earth, and look for an area with no development. Even if its illegal, sneak on out there.
Brush up on your cardio and outdoorsmans skills, and you can be out in the actual boonies in no time.
And if anything out there spooks you, I wouldent worry about it.
>Pic related, the boonies.
>>29136
Its not something extremely hard to do.
I kinda grew up out there because my parents would take me a lot. As I grew up and became more introverted, I would rarely go. Hiking on trails puts you into contact with too many normies, and its too fake. Everything, from the trail, to the woods, to the entire area is fabricated (I worked on a trail crew for a year, half the job is making it look more wild while pruning the entire mountain.)
When I was 15 or 16, I started going into the actual, non meme wilderness. I could only make it out there maybe 2x per year, but It was amazing.
By trying to replicate the feeling, I go on private or federal land and camp incognito. You may think there is no place to camp, but there always is, its just not on a map.
Normies camp where its legal, where they have a trail nearby and a ton of regulations to follow. A wizard can hop a fence and move off into the woods, camping wherever there is ground and a little windshield to hide him, and be alone for a few days with 0 contact with people.
Point is, hop on google earth, and look for an area with no development. Even if its illegal, sneak on out there.
Brush up on your cardio and outdoorsmans skills, and you can be out in the actual boonies in no time.
And if anything out there spooks you, I wouldent worry about it.
>Pic related, the boonies.
>>5180
> repetitive as fuck
such as music, academics, bodybuilding or learning and practicing some subject.
> compared to other hobbies, video gaming offers a very low level of engagement with the physical world.
such as programming, mathematics, philosophy, reading etc.
> empty and mind-numbing.
such as fishing, camping, hiking or any other outside activity.
> repetitive as fuck
such as music, academics, bodybuilding or learning and practicing some subject.
> compared to other hobbies, video gaming offers a very low level of engagement with the physical world.
such as programming, mathematics, philosophy, reading etc.
> empty and mind-numbing.
such as fishing, camping, hiking or any other outside activity.
>>29172
Looks quite amazing, I wish I had that sort of opportunity.
But I'm just surrounded by normie life. No place to get away and leave. Even though I'm not in a large city, its absolutely surrounded by farmland.
I can at least look at your pictures and find some enjoyment in it.
Looks quite amazing, I wish I had that sort of opportunity.
But I'm just surrounded by normie life. No place to get away and leave. Even though I'm not in a large city, its absolutely surrounded by farmland.
I can at least look at your pictures and find some enjoyment in it.
l generalize a bit
>god tier
light sports
programming
>good tier
reading
gaming
friends
television
listening to music
feeding an addiction
light exercise
>meh tier
writing
watching videos
making music
group sports
paranormal
crime
travelling
outdoors
>bad tier
drawing
making videos
internet
heavy exercise
exploring
cooking
guns
language
>shit tier
math
knitting
cars
>god tier
light sports
programming
>good tier
reading
gaming
friends
television
listening to music
feeding an addiction
light exercise
>meh tier
writing
watching videos
making music
group sports
paranormal
crime
travelling
outdoors
>bad tier
drawing
making videos
internet
heavy exercise
exploring
cooking
guns
language
>shit tier
math
knitting
cars
>>29516
>making lists is inherently fun to some people
>this allows us to opine on subjects we're relatively inexperienced on, and declare that people we don't like are inferior by virtue of their pastimes
>ideally the introspection and inspection of other lists would lead us to new hobbies we might enjoy
We'd probably be better off making a thread where people would research and introduce a hobby, write a paragraph or two on it then leave links where you can find out more. Maybe also a "if you liked X, Y or Z then you may like this too." That way we'd have a proper catalogue of hobbies that bored wizzies could peruse.
>making lists is inherently fun to some people
>this allows us to opine on subjects we're relatively inexperienced on, and declare that people we don't like are inferior by virtue of their pastimes
>ideally the introspection and inspection of other lists would lead us to new hobbies we might enjoy
We'd probably be better off making a thread where people would research and introduce a hobby, write a paragraph or two on it then leave links where you can find out more. Maybe also a "if you liked X, Y or Z then you may like this too." That way we'd have a proper catalogue of hobbies that bored wizzies could peruse.
>>29517
i like this idea!
imagine like a tree that branches out. one branch could hold 'active' hobbies, like playing music, and the other could hold 'passive' ones, like listening to music. or like reading vs writing. say if they enjoyed reading it could branch to different genres/manga/comic books/light novels. in between things we could also put similar things, like visual novels between videogames and reading…
i like this idea!
imagine like a tree that branches out. one branch could hold 'active' hobbies, like playing music, and the other could hold 'passive' ones, like listening to music. or like reading vs writing. say if they enjoyed reading it could branch to different genres/manga/comic books/light novels. in between things we could also put similar things, like visual novels between videogames and reading…
>>4656
>Weird tier
Listening to music
I never understood the apparent normie obsession with music. A lot of people appear to be extremely obsessed with music, but I never was able to share that passion. My depression during my teenage years probably played a role in that, though. However, even now as an adult who got over his depression I only listen to music to add some noise to a silent enviornment. I do have my preferences, but I am not passionate about what I listen to. The main thing is just to have some enjoyable noise fill my environment while I work.
>Weird tier
Listening to music
I never understood the apparent normie obsession with music. A lot of people appear to be extremely obsessed with music, but I never was able to share that passion. My depression during my teenage years probably played a role in that, though. However, even now as an adult who got over his depression I only listen to music to add some noise to a silent enviornment. I do have my preferences, but I am not passionate about what I listen to. The main thing is just to have some enjoyable noise fill my environment while I work.
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>S+ Tier
Writing
Painting (Not Drawing)
Beekeeping
Treasure Hunting
Carpentry
>S Tier
Primitive Fishing
Bird-watching
Mycology
>A+ Tier:
Wildlife exploration
Acclaimed Manga
Making Instruments
Hiking
>A Tier:
Pottery
Knitting
Art (excluding Painting)
Reading
Normal fishing
Cooking
Gardening
Hunting
Average Manga
Learning languages
Practicing grammar
Metal Detecting
Mathematics
Acclaimed Anime
>B Tier:
Photography
Urban Exploring
Astral Projection
Soapmaking
Calligraphy
True Homebrewing
Martial Arts
>B- Tier:
Candle Making
Dowsing
Lucid Dreaming
Climbing
Puzzles
Bodybuilding
Acting
Skateboarding
Collecting Film
Gunsmith
Seasonal Anime
>C Tier:
Technology
Powerlifting
"Homebrewing"
Origami
Darts
Juggling
Collecting Manga
>C- Tier:
Video Games
Graffiti
Skydiving
Collecting video games
Collecting comics
Collecting Anime
Ghost Hunting
flower arranging
>D Tier:
NFL
Making Youtube Videos
Cosplaying
:: To note, making music/singing is not added, as that entirely depends on what genre someone is aiming for (or aiming to create)
Writing
Painting (Not Drawing)
Beekeeping
Treasure Hunting
Carpentry
>S Tier
Primitive Fishing
Bird-watching
Mycology
>A+ Tier:
Wildlife exploration
Acclaimed Manga
Making Instruments
Hiking
>A Tier:
Pottery
Knitting
Art (excluding Painting)
Reading
Normal fishing
Cooking
Gardening
Hunting
Average Manga
Learning languages
Practicing grammar
Metal Detecting
Mathematics
Acclaimed Anime
>B Tier:
Photography
Urban Exploring
Astral Projection
Soapmaking
Calligraphy
True Homebrewing
Martial Arts
>B- Tier:
Candle Making
Dowsing
Lucid Dreaming
Climbing
Puzzles
Bodybuilding
Acting
Skateboarding
Collecting Film
Gunsmith
Seasonal Anime
>C Tier:
Technology
Powerlifting
"Homebrewing"
Origami
Darts
Juggling
Collecting Manga
>C- Tier:
Video Games
Graffiti
Skydiving
Collecting video games
Collecting comics
Collecting Anime
Ghost Hunting
flower arranging
>D Tier:
NFL
Making Youtube Videos
Cosplaying
:: To note, making music/singing is not added, as that entirely depends on what genre someone is aiming for (or aiming to create)
Worldbuilding is quickly becoming one of my favorite hobbies. It was what I loved to do as a kid back when it was simply make-believe and doodling and I was young enough for people not to judge me, the purest form of escapism.
>>30185
Bodybuilding is a meme. It's one of the worst sports and practically impossible to make much progress without a lot of drugs. But hey, at least the supplement industry is making billions.
Bodybuilding is a meme. It's one of the worst sports and practically impossible to make much progress without a lot of drugs. But hey, at least the supplement industry is making billions.
>>5182
>God tier
Hobbies that expand your mind/thinking
>Very good tier
Hobbies that expand your body/abilities
>Good tier
Hobbies that are productive
>Okay tier
Watching anime/movies/playing games for the stories, reading books - basically every passive hobby still involving some sort of artistic value
>Shit tier
Sports, online videogames, watching YouTube
>No hope tier
Imageboards
>God tier
Hobbies that expand your mind/thinking
>Very good tier
Hobbies that expand your body/abilities
>Good tier
Hobbies that are productive
>Okay tier
Watching anime/movies/playing games for the stories, reading books - basically every passive hobby still involving some sort of artistic value
>Shit tier
Sports, online videogames, watching YouTube
>No hope tier
Imageboards
I always thought that backyard astronomy is high master of the arcane arts tier.
Amateurs can actually grind their own precise mirrors and build big, high quality telescopes with little outside help. I used to read about it but it's an expensive hobby that requires a lot of learning and effort, and access to a dark sky.
Amateurs can actually grind their own precise mirrors and build big, high quality telescopes with little outside help. I used to read about it but it's an expensive hobby that requires a lot of learning and effort, and access to a dark sky.
Surely there is a difference between writing an incredibly articulate philosophical study and a shitty fanfiction smut pairing.
You cannot relegate any hobby to some nebulous "tier", as the important thing is what you do with that hobby; even the simplest task or activity can be elevated to showcasing the majesty of life and existence when done for the right reasons. I would say this: do not be so quick to offer judgement on a person's enjoyment, as it would seem that is the business of the fools and intolerant tribalism that permeates our world. We're Wizards. We know first hand what this kind of behavior leads to.
You cannot relegate any hobby to some nebulous "tier", as the important thing is what you do with that hobby; even the simplest task or activity can be elevated to showcasing the majesty of life and existence when done for the right reasons. I would say this: do not be so quick to offer judgement on a person's enjoyment, as it would seem that is the business of the fools and intolerant tribalism that permeates our world. We're Wizards. We know first hand what this kind of behavior leads to.
>God tier
masturbating to my waifu
assassinating people who also attempt to masturbate to my waifu
>SHIT tier
anything anyone else has ever fucking done including breathing
masturbating to my waifu
assassinating people who also attempt to masturbate to my waifu
>SHIT tier
anything anyone else has ever fucking done including breathing
I completely disagree with Martial Arts being low tier.
Maybe Tae Kwon Do and Karate which are pretty basic.
But when it comes to Tai Chi, Qi Gong (not really a martial art but closely linked) and Kung Fu, it's absolute Be Water Tier.
Otherwise I agree with the list for the most part. I'd add Math to God Tier though.
Maybe Tae Kwon Do and Karate which are pretty basic.
But when it comes to Tai Chi, Qi Gong (not really a martial art but closely linked) and Kung Fu, it's absolute Be Water Tier.
Otherwise I agree with the list for the most part. I'd add Math to God Tier though.
>>30217
Tai Chi is a martial art.
Qi Gong is not, but as you said their are some links in some Chinese martial arts.
I also wonder what you mean by TKD and Karate being "pretty basic", but Chinese martial arts not basic for some unknown reason.
Tai Chi is a martial art.
Qi Gong is not, but as you said their are some links in some Chinese martial arts.
I also wonder what you mean by TKD and Karate being "pretty basic", but Chinese martial arts not basic for some unknown reason.
>>30218
I didn't mean to say Tai Chi isn't, I meant Qi Gong isn't.
I guess I'm just biased based on what I see in society, I really don't know either of TKD or Karate.
What I meant here is that TKD has a culture in the west for being all about stunts. Too much showoff, no essence.
As for karate… I don't have a case.
KF and Tai Chi are all about the essence. They are deeply philosophical in nature.
I also believe KF is much more complete than TKD which mostly focuses on kicks, and also japanese martial arts look much too rigid to me. KF seems to me way more fluid and complete.
I do believe that Tai Chi is the essence of martial arts.
In sum, I am thinking OP mentioned martial arts from the viewpoint of an outsider who only sees people fighting or doing stunts, in which case I merely took the most popular martial arts in the west as a sort of strawman.
I'd swap bodybuilding for martial arts in his hierarchy.
I didn't mean to say Tai Chi isn't, I meant Qi Gong isn't.
I guess I'm just biased based on what I see in society, I really don't know either of TKD or Karate.
What I meant here is that TKD has a culture in the west for being all about stunts. Too much showoff, no essence.
As for karate… I don't have a case.
KF and Tai Chi are all about the essence. They are deeply philosophical in nature.
I also believe KF is much more complete than TKD which mostly focuses on kicks, and also japanese martial arts look much too rigid to me. KF seems to me way more fluid and complete.
I do believe that Tai Chi is the essence of martial arts.
In sum, I am thinking OP mentioned martial arts from the viewpoint of an outsider who only sees people fighting or doing stunts, in which case I merely took the most popular martial arts in the west as a sort of strawman.
I'd swap bodybuilding for martial arts in his hierarchy.
>>30226
So basically just your uninformed opinions on a topic you know nothing about.
I don't give a flying fart about the tier list thing, but I do care about uninformed misinformation and stupid opinions on martial arts basted on some couch potato watching a few movies.
So basically just your uninformed opinions on a topic you know nothing about.
I don't give a flying fart about the tier list thing, but I do care about uninformed misinformation and stupid opinions on martial arts basted on some couch potato watching a few movies.
>>30235
don't be a dumbass
I cannot possibly know all the martial arts, and I already acknowledge being wrong
Why do you complain about uninformation if you don't even know if I know any martial arts at all.
I actually practice Kung Fu, Tai Chi and Qi Gong but you just assumed I don't either.
I stand by what I said in my last post.
don't be a dumbass
I cannot possibly know all the martial arts, and I already acknowledge being wrong
Why do you complain about uninformation if you don't even know if I know any martial arts at all.
I actually practice Kung Fu, Tai Chi and Qi Gong but you just assumed I don't either.
I stand by what I said in my last post.
>Amateur radio
This sounds like the real shit you dumb faggot. How i wish i could know the technical aspects of this hobby, have the equipment and fool around talking shit with anonymous people over the radio. I guess it's more or less like posting here, but the fact that not everyone does it makes it extremely fun. Too bad i'm too dumb for that.
This sounds like the real shit you dumb faggot. How i wish i could know the technical aspects of this hobby, have the equipment and fool around talking shit with anonymous people over the radio. I guess it's more or less like posting here, but the fact that not everyone does it makes it extremely fun. Too bad i'm too dumb for that.
>>4674
>you fat retard
This is unacceptable behavior on wizchan. People never posted like this. Wizchan is becoming more and more normie and 4chad everyday.
>you fat retard
This is unacceptable behavior on wizchan. People never posted like this. Wizchan is becoming more and more normie and 4chad everyday.
>>30246
My father is an amateur radio operator and when he calls me down to fix something on his computer I get to listen to the broadcast he's connected with and it's pretty much locals talking about what they've done this day/diseases (most of them are elderly, I'd say 40+ at least)/mountains path to walk (I live among mountains).
It's sounds comfy tho because you don't have to talk, you can just listen like you were reading a thread or you can talk like you were replying.
Also no succubi and being a niche thing it's free from intruders.
One day I guess I start to learn more about it.
My father is an amateur radio operator and when he calls me down to fix something on his computer I get to listen to the broadcast he's connected with and it's pretty much locals talking about what they've done this day/diseases (most of them are elderly, I'd say 40+ at least)/mountains path to walk (I live among mountains).
It's sounds comfy tho because you don't have to talk, you can just listen like you were reading a thread or you can talk like you were replying.
Also no succubi and being a niche thing it's free from intruders.
One day I guess I start to learn more about it.
>>31133
Productive hobbies give you the opportunity to look over what you've done at the end of the project, and say, "That was cool, I like what I've made here overall, I have spent my time well". You can't really do that when your hobby is playing VNs and watching SoL and ecchi animes.
Where people tend to get lost, is in the fact that everyone can have multiple hobbies. Playing VNs and watching SoL/Ecchi animes isn't bad, and I do both of those things regularly. The issue is that if it's all you do, it's easy to feel like you're wasting away and accomplishing nothing. If you've got a productive little hobby in addition to the meaningless fun stuff, you'll be much better off from an internal standpoint. Even if you spend 80% of your time doing the fun stuff, like I do.
Productive hobbies give you the opportunity to look over what you've done at the end of the project, and say, "That was cool, I like what I've made here overall, I have spent my time well". You can't really do that when your hobby is playing VNs and watching SoL and ecchi animes.
Where people tend to get lost, is in the fact that everyone can have multiple hobbies. Playing VNs and watching SoL/Ecchi animes isn't bad, and I do both of those things regularly. The issue is that if it's all you do, it's easy to feel like you're wasting away and accomplishing nothing. If you've got a productive little hobby in addition to the meaningless fun stuff, you'll be much better off from an internal standpoint. Even if you spend 80% of your time doing the fun stuff, like I do.
>>31148
>That was cool, I like what I've made here overall, I have spent my time well
How is making something material fundamentally better than making memories of having watched or played something and dwelling on it?
>You can't really do that when your hobby is playing VNs and watching SoL and ecchi animes.
Bullshit, you can have a list of what you've played/watched. You can use services like MAL or Steam, fill in achievements, even write reviews.
>like you're wasting away and accomplishing nothing
You're wasting away and accomplishing nothing regardless of what you do since everything will eventually turn to nothingness.
>That was cool, I like what I've made here overall, I have spent my time well
How is making something material fundamentally better than making memories of having watched or played something and dwelling on it?
>You can't really do that when your hobby is playing VNs and watching SoL and ecchi animes.
Bullshit, you can have a list of what you've played/watched. You can use services like MAL or Steam, fill in achievements, even write reviews.
>like you're wasting away and accomplishing nothing
You're wasting away and accomplishing nothing regardless of what you do since everything will eventually turn to nothingness.
>>31133
I don't understand your logic. Productive hobbies are ultimately more worthwhile than consumerist ones because they not only fuel the creator with entertainment, but also provide a product which other people may enjoy. If everyone had your attitude and didn't regard productive hobbies as superior to consumerist, then there would be no media to consume and everyone would have to get by with just nature and relationships. If you're going to question the futility of productivity out of the fact that all will eventually turn to nothingness, then why don't you regard posting as equally or less futile (which it is)?
>>31151
>You can use services like MAL or Steam, fill in achievements, even write reviews.
Wow. Just wow. Do you wish to be "acknowledged" that badly?
I don't understand your logic. Productive hobbies are ultimately more worthwhile than consumerist ones because they not only fuel the creator with entertainment, but also provide a product which other people may enjoy. If everyone had your attitude and didn't regard productive hobbies as superior to consumerist, then there would be no media to consume and everyone would have to get by with just nature and relationships. If you're going to question the futility of productivity out of the fact that all will eventually turn to nothingness, then why don't you regard posting as equally or less futile (which it is)?
>>31151
>You can use services like MAL or Steam, fill in achievements, even write reviews.
Wow. Just wow. Do you wish to be "acknowledged" that badly?
>>31611
>also provide a product which other people may enjoy
Why should I care about that?
Also, I doubt handcrafting something in your cave provides someone else with enjoyment.
>there would be no media to consume
Ok. In that case I would meditate more.
Or wouldn't even be here anymore, being no longer chained down by interests, hobbies and other attachments.
>why don't you regard posting as equally or less futile
But I do, anon.
>Wow. Just wow.
I said "can", not "should".
>also provide a product which other people may enjoy
Why should I care about that?
Also, I doubt handcrafting something in your cave provides someone else with enjoyment.
>there would be no media to consume
Ok. In that case I would meditate more.
Or wouldn't even be here anymore, being no longer chained down by interests, hobbies and other attachments.
>why don't you regard posting as equally or less futile
But I do, anon.
>Wow. Just wow.
I said "can", not "should".
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>God tier
All the things I enjoy doing
>Shit tier
All the things OP enjoys doing
All the things I enjoy doing
>Shit tier
All the things OP enjoys doing
How do you even make a list of what hobbies are good and what hobbies are bad like this? Based on what premises do you consider a hobby to shit tier or god tier? Maybe because of the people who keep that hobby, but then, you're reffering to people, not an activity itself.
>>32020
you're thinking too much about it; there's no real thought involved, it's just narcissism.
you're thinking too much about it; there's no real thought involved, it's just narcissism.
>>32022
No. Fuck you. It's not narcissm. It's retardness. Guy you replied to is right. Even kids can read(God tier hobby) .
I can argue with Op but there is no point. Since mods haven't deleted this thread I'm just gonna ignore it, Not shit in it.
No. Fuck you. It's not narcissm. It's retardness. Guy you replied to is right. Even kids can read(God tier hobby) .
I can argue with Op but there is no point. Since mods haven't deleted this thread I'm just gonna ignore it, Not shit in it.
Maybe we could use this thread to discuss general hobbies that don't merit their own thread
>>32020
There are no "good" or "bad" hobbies, but you can certainly rank hobbies based on different factors like profitability, mental & health benefits, escapism, etc.
Something like stamp collecting can be considered a shit tier hobby because it's not profitable, has no mental or health benefits, and terrible for escapism.
There are no "good" or "bad" hobbies, but you can certainly rank hobbies based on different factors like profitability, mental & health benefits, escapism, etc.
Something like stamp collecting can be considered a shit tier hobby because it's not profitable, has no mental or health benefits, and terrible for escapism.
Hobbies are supposed to make you feel better but I've studied multiple languages (considered high tier) to where I'm fairly well read (C1 according to CEFR scale). Still I dont feel accomplished in it.
I want to do something classed as high such as programming, making VNs/manga/any digital art I dont even obsess over anime but still i would like to create it, play an instrument like piano or violin, etc. I can do things normies can't but that doesnt help this void.
Are hobbies just escapism?
I want to do something classed as high such as programming, making VNs/manga/any digital art I dont even obsess over anime but still i would like to create it, play an instrument like piano or violin, etc. I can do things normies can't but that doesnt help this void.
Are hobbies just escapism?
>>37997
In a sense they are, what good hobbies really should be are areas where you can dump your creative energies into. That's why things that are artistic are always rated so highly in these types of threads.
However, there is still the personal preference factor which is just too complex to really tackle.
> I can do things normies can't but that doesnt help this void.
Whatever, your hubris won't save you. Learn some humility and find your own thing or suffer a life of where your emotions are forever bottled up until you rot.
In a sense they are, what good hobbies really should be are areas where you can dump your creative energies into. That's why things that are artistic are always rated so highly in these types of threads.
However, there is still the personal preference factor which is just too complex to really tackle.
> I can do things normies can't but that doesnt help this void.
Whatever, your hubris won't save you. Learn some humility and find your own thing or suffer a life of where your emotions are forever bottled up until you rot.
>God Tier
Everything I like or wish I could do.
>Shit Tier
Everything else.
These entire threads summed up.
Everything I like or wish I could do.
>Shit Tier
Everything else.
These entire threads summed up.
>>38029
It's true.
For most people hobbies are coping mechanisms for wageslavery which is a coping mechanism for not being able to live freely which is a coping mechanism for inevitable death.
It's true.
For most people hobbies are coping mechanisms for wageslavery which is a coping mechanism for not being able to live freely which is a coping mechanism for inevitable death.
>>38034
But one could argue that doing anything after work during your liesure time is a coping mechanism? Why single out hobbies?
But one could argue that doing anything after work during your liesure time is a coping mechanism? Why single out hobbies?
For those listing Mathematics as a hobby:
I enrolled for a Mathematics degree at my high, almost wizardly, age of 27.
How would mathematics as a hobby look like? Where can I find mathematical puzzles? Pls no list of grand problems, I'm not a genius. Just the casual type.
I enrolled for a Mathematics degree at my high, almost wizardly, age of 27.
How would mathematics as a hobby look like? Where can I find mathematical puzzles? Pls no list of grand problems, I'm not a genius. Just the casual type.
>>38158
I don't know but they do sell big book of problems for algebra and geometry on amazon but i highly doubt you need a math degree for that.
I don't know but they do sell big book of problems for algebra and geometry on amazon but i highly doubt you need a math degree for that.
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>>38158
You could try some of George Polya's books for improving general problem solving skills. Outside of that libgen has shitloads of math textbooks so maybe try the exercises in those. If you know some basic programming Project Euler might be good too.
You could try some of George Polya's books for improving general problem solving skills. Outside of that libgen has shitloads of math textbooks so maybe try the exercises in those. If you know some basic programming Project Euler might be good too.
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Why hiking, singing, pottery and acting are not among high tier?
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