/hob/ - Hobbies

learn a language, op

pirate grammar books for that language and download shows in that language

>>47956
English is my second language, and I'm trying to master it. Learning another language beside English distorts my pronunciation and understanding of language, even if I have a bachelor's degree in English Literature ;_; Thanks for the suggestion though, and good luck to you on Japanese.

>>47955
You could read comics or mangas. Maybe you don't get distracted then, because there are pictures and less text.

Try to get over your internet addiction and reset your dopamine receptors. You might be able to enjoy slower things again like reading.

If you don't care about having "productive" hobbies, try online games, specifically MMOs and games where you tend to level up and grind skills. They seem like they'd be perfect for you since their target demographic is the painfully Internet addicted masses that can't focus on anything. Games are pretty much designed to be Skinner boxes where you get continually rewarded for simple arbitrary actions and there's people wasting years of their lives in front of these things.

I'm self-aware enough not to install one of those bad boys because I'd likely get sucked into the vortex pretty easily. If you just want to kill time, download a bunch of them so you can rotate and not get bored and enjoy your dopamine-enabled blissful escapism where you see hours disappear in minutes.

>>47959
Thanks, but it still requires looking at the laptop screen since it's so expensive to get comicbooks in print here.

>>47961
Today I turned off the laptop for two hours and read 40 pages of Ecocriticism by Greg Garrard. From now on, I'll try to give such breaks often. Thank you. However, there's still a question in my mind: is reading a hobby?

>>47962
I used to play MMOs and other video games in my teenage years. Now I see them as a waste of time as you said. I learned a lot from video games though, but most of them just consist of fun and at some point it seems like there is no escape.
Also, I am looking for "productive" hobbies as you mentioned. Reading is also not productive in that sense, since it is a passive action, but I think it is necessary for me to study something and learn different things as much as possible. I don't read fiction, dropped it at university Sportive hobbies seem much more suitable and doable.

>>47964

Some people have a different meaning of hobby in mind. I would say yes personally though.

>>47955

Pick up drawing and illustration maybe, hardly a more lonesome way to spend life, its a perfect fit for a wizard, it s something you can do while listening to podcasts, audiobooks or music so its a good excuse for that, and there´s a lot of resources online.

It takes no money, you could buy cheap paper and pencils and if you already have a pc all you need is a 50$ huion , some pirate software and you are good to go.

For reading try listening to audiobooks.

I'd like to find a hobby that is active not passive, offline and brain-driven.

i think card-type games and roleplaying fit that pretty well.

>>47972
Do you feel you're artistically driven?

>>47970
I tried it a lot, really a lot. However, I couldn't improve my drawing skills and I get mad all the time. Thanks though.

>>47971
I'm doing it sometimes while playing Euro Truck Simulator 2. I can't just focus on the audiobook without doing another stuff. Thank you.


How about camping alone? Anyone ever tried it?

>>47988
>I tried it a lot, really a lot. However, I couldn't improve my drawing skills and I get mad all the time.

Yeah, is not like a videogame, it takes months/years just to get at base level to really start branching out but is a comfy and cheap timesink of a hobby if you are not doing it with a material goal in mind, having any kind of vocational aspiration with it does make it suicide fuel, art can be the worst most stressful thing ever to try to make a professional living of , specially if you start in adulthood.

Folding paper to make origami?

Here are some more cutouts of anime figurines, not quite paper swans, but whatever.
https://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=el_joey

>>47991
That is paper craft, not origami.
Origami is only folding paper. No cutting or glue is allowed. Just one paper folded into pattern.

Papercraft is pretty cool though, so it ain't a dis or anything.

>>47955
Have you considered gardening? If you can make a small raised bed outside, it provides a lot of good physical work and gets you fresh air and sun. If you don't have land, you can still grow things inside with hydroponics or window planters.

>>47991
i always wondered if someone could make a program to convert all those shapes into faces and link up the edges to make a 3d model, it's basically a texture file

What about writing? I'd say the cost is nonexistent and the barrier to begin is pretty low. Though if you have attention span issues and can't handle your writing being awful then you won't be able to stay with it for long, but that goes for anything.

>>47955
When it comes to "active" hobbies, something like fishing is criminally overlooked. Of course so is hunting, but that's more expensive, cruel, and decidedly not the type of thing you'd recommend to a demographic like wizards (there is no hunting equivalent to catching and releasing that I know of.) Fishing is relatively low-cost and you can keep yourself away from people and undisturbed for the most part. There's even a thread up on it on this very board.

>>47972
roleplaying? like with asterisks or…?

>>48006
>there is no hunting equivalent to catching and releasing that I know of
It may not be exactly right, but I've heard that nature photography is very like the experience of hunting.

>>48006
>Hunting
>more expensive and cruel then fishing
wat?
Are you just unable to empathize with fish or think they feel less then other animals because they are more different then say mammals?

Also fishing can be expensive and hunting can be very inexpensive, it all depends on how much you spend on ether and where you do it. Overall they tend to cost around the same per a year unless the hunter is the kind of guy who buys tons of fancy gear, or the fisher buys boats to fish.

>>48019
You can catch and release a fish, and they basically swim away unharmed. But to hunt you have to shoot the animal dead.

I joined the smash community and got good at the game. I recommend it especially an older game like melee so that you don't have to spend money on a switch get dolphin and an iso and if you practice techniques daily you'll surprise yourself seeing improvement. Then find your local smash scene (usually theres a fb group) and I guarantee that if you tell people that your new they'll want to help you get better at the game. Worked for me

>>48021
I will admit the smash community is a lot less toxic then many other competitive game scenes from what I have seen.

>>48021
Hanging out irl sounds awful

>>48021
I do that for KOF98

Also eating *good* food~ quality over quantity, taste is king!

>>48021
Sounds fun but don't you have to have a facebook with family and friends and pictures of yourself in order to join one of these groups? I can't make a facebook without it looking like a fake profile

>>47955
Music production. Never thought I'd like it. Now it's the only thing I live for

If you don't mind pirating, you won't need to buy anything. A laptop + any shitty headphones is enough

I can relate about internet addiction. It's the absolute worst. Best solution so far was a site blocker. Yeet that Youtube with it's clickbait pricks

I have this delusion that one day i'll give up on media completely (cuz i've seen everything worthy already) and start drawing comics to entertain myself and fellow wizards.

>>47970
>Kim Jung Gi as an inspiration for begginers
cruel

>>47970
To draw one must be able to appreciate, observe and analyze the world around him, which is hardly the case for most wizards: most of us grew up reading books, watching TV and playing videogames, with little care about the happenings of the outside world and all its little details.
Basically, trying to pick up drawing is going to be much harder for people like us. I, for one, often find myself struggling with shit that's considered basic and fundamental, as a given for the majority of people who aren't even artists, like an eye for proportions, being able to focus on things for more than 4 seconds, perceiving all the contours clearly and not seeing them as skewed, these sort of things.
It's a torture of a hobby unless you were born with the right assets or have zero idea of beauty or haven't developed any sense of self-criticism, in which case it should be fine, I guess.

>>48550
that's absolutely awful advice. you clearly don't draw.
you don't have to be good at drawing to appreciate it or escape time. drawing can be meditative and relaxing if you don't worry so much about how your product LOOKS and more on how you feel.

the cool thing about drawing is that there's no limit to how you do it. there's so many different WAYS to draw.
you can be a technical artist and try to get the exact details, proportions, and angles all exact, or you can be more organic and be loose with your lines. you can take a stencil and simply make lines on a paper and draw/color around them. the possibilities are literally endless.

… jesus fuck i probably sound like some kind of after-school special on PBS. but my point still stands. you don't have to be good at it to enjoy it.

>>48551
I do draw.
But you're right nonetheless. This attitude is way better than the one I have and stand behind.

learn history or about other cultures
learn languages
learn guitar or piano or some other instrument
learn a programming language

How about Flying Drones?

The Complex Engineering of the Simple Hook That Could Make Drone Deliveries Real
Engineers at the Google sister company Wing spent more than a few hours searching for just the right mechanism that would let their drones safely deliver packages.

André Prager turns away from me for a moment, rummaging through a pile of stuff on the cart he has pulled into the small conference room. There are lots of cut-up pieces of cardboard, with a few bags of colorful plastic odds and ends mixed in.

“I think the most valuable things in this building are cardboard and tape,” he says. He shows me a rectangle of foam-core with a straw, a broken pen, and a few thumb tacks stuck to it.

It looks like junk, but because we’re at 100 Mayfield Avenue in Mountain View, California, the headquarters of X, Alphabet’s secretive division dedicated to cranking out new Googles, it’s actually anything but. The building is stuffed with cool gear: self-driving car hardware, an 80-foot flatbed scanner that inspects stratospheric balloons, a sprawling tool shop populated by hulking machines with names like Metabeam. But for Prager, this grown-up arts and crafts project represents years of work, and one of many steps on the way to a system that could make drone deliveries actually happen.

Mechanical engineer Andr Prager built numerous prototypes in his hunt for the perfect mechanism to drop packages from…

Prager is a mechanical engineer for Wing, the drone-delivery effort that, along with internet-beaming balloon scheme Loon, just “graduated” from X and is now a stand-alone company under the Alphabet umbrella. The engineers at Wing, which took shape in 2012, have had to deal with lot of complexities. They designed an H-shaped drone that has a range of 6 miles, can carry a 3-pound package, and tops out at 80 mph. They developed a traffic-management system that could keep the skies safe as they get more crowded with little flyers. And they spent a whole lot of time making a new kind of hook.

The importance of the hook dates to the early days of the project. One of the first decisions the Wing team made was that they didn’t want their delivery drones to land when dropping off packages. Vertical flight is a drain on power, and putting the drone on the ground means putting it within reach of curious (and destructive) children and animals.

But by the time Prager joined the team in 2016, they still didn’t have a workable idea of how to get the packages onto the ground. They couldn’t just drop them. Parachutes would soften the landing, but what good’s a drone-delivery service if your burrito ends up in your neighbor’s yard or a tree?

So the team decided they'd have the drone hover about 15 feet off the ground and lower its payload, sealed in a cardboard container, to the ground on a string. To start, they wrapped a piece of string around a bobbin and stuck it on the belly of the drone; a programmed motor would start the unspooling when the aircraft reached its destination, the way a yo-yo drops from your hand. But what seemed simple quickly proved a mess. Winding the things was a pain. You had to make one for each individual package. And then, the package would arrive on the customer’s doorstep trailing a long piece of string—hardly an elegant solution. “We’ve got to get rid of this bobbin, was the conclusion,” Prager says.

The post-bobbin era started with a more complex system, a little box that would descend with the package, release it when it reached the ground, then climb back up to the drone. “It was really easy to come up with,” says Trevor Shannon, who is video-conferencing into the meeting from Australia, where Wing runs its trials. And for skilled engineers, it was easy to make. They stuck in actuators and motors to control the movement, sensors to detect touchdown, a radio to tell the drone when it was time to winch the thing back up, and a battery to power it all. It worked well enough, but the team found it overly complex and full of components that might fail. Making drone deliveries work as a business, they felt, hinged on making the novel process as simple as possible for potential consumers.

They scrapped the box setup and looked for a mechanically simpler way to lower the package and release it when it reached the ground. They took inspiration from clicky pens and cabinet doors that swing open when you push them in a bit. Over time, Prager piled his cart with those cardboard odds and ends, which the engineers used to visualize whatever idea popped into their head. But they still felt they could go simpler, more frictionless. “From there,” Shannon says, “it evolved into 'What if we could do it without any moving parts?'”

And so they began designing the perfect hook, something so simple it couldn’t possibly fail. The thing just had to hold the package on the way down, unhook when it reached the ground, then come back up. Once again, what sounded easy proved baffling. Some designs wouldn’t come off the package. Others would release, then swing through the air and reattach themselves. Some would slip through the opening they were supposed to hold onto and get hopelessly tangled.

Each failure led to a new idea, often generated over lunch or in casual conversations with other engineers working on X’s array of projects—what Prager calls “ping-pong with creative people.” And for each creative solution, the team needed creative ways to test it, to root out whatever weakness the latest prototype was hiding. They set up fans to simulate wind and used obstacles like traffic cones to mess with the package as it reached the ground. And they brought in help.

“Our testing is, ‘Hey random person from the hallway, do to this the worst thing you can imagine,’” Prager says. They had people grab the hook and throw it, or hold it as they ran away from the drone. They brought in dogs. After each session, Prager and his colleagues would make an adjustment, hit the 3-D printer, and come back to their lab a few hours later with another iteration.

The final result is the size and shape of a fingerling potato. It’s yellow and made of plastic, but each detail of its design makes Prager and Shannon wince at a painful failure or smile at an unexpected breakthrough. When the package touches the ground, the hook keeps dropping, so it naturally slips off. The motor recognizes that it’s not working so hard anymore and that it’s OK to winch the string back up. The indentation that makes it a hook has an underbite, so that while it’s easy to attach by hand, it can’t grab back on haphazardly. The sides of the hook are shaped differently (one is rounded, the other pointed), so when it fits into the belly of the drone, the aerodynamically shaped package is pointed in the right direction. If by some chance, the hook catches on something as the drone starts to zoom away, the string will unspool and fall to the ground so it doesn’t pull the aircraft down with it. “It’s inherently safe,” Shannon says.

And most of all, it works. It’s the sort of thing you look at and say, “Of course! How else would you make it?” And if you happen to ask Prager or anyone on his team that question, they’ve got a cart piled high with failures to show you.

I need a hobby. Something active, not passive. Something that doesn’t require a ton of reading. Something that isn’t competitive. Preferably something fairly niche, but that’s not required.

>>50410
Plastic or resin models.

>>48550
this is somewhat true. you have to draw a lot from life to understand how perspective and form works. and if you want to learn how to draw anime shit like video games then you will be spending hundreds of hours studying anatomy and looking at humans. not only that. but you have to have lots of inspiration, which means you have to consume tons of media and enjoy life. if you're even remotely depressed then you're not going to enjoy art. you also have to have a clean conscious and be aware of every single stroke. so if you have a stressful life then it will be hard to concentrate on art. or if you have adhd then you're fucked.
>>48551
>about how your product LOOKS and more on how you feel.
that's fucking stupid. this thread is about finding hobbies. hobbies are things that you do almost everyday. so why the fuck would i spend hours everyday and not bother improving. do you think art is just some diversion? where you just make some stupid doodles on a paper when you're bored?

>>50410

learn to play an instrument. If you got room for it, piano. It's pretty easy to learn and you can play any song on it you can think of. If you don't got room, guitar. It's harder to play well in my opinion but everyone loves guitars

I've been thinking of making some sealed ecospheres. Basically you can just put some pond/lake/sea/puddle water with some gravel/rocks/wood inside a jar and seal it forever. Then you put it in a window sill and observe it. There will almost always be life in there and tiny little animals and algae/plants can survive for a very long time with absolutely no input from the outside save sunlight.

What is neat is that often the composition of animals in the jar will change over time with new kinds of animals somehow popping up and disappearing with no warning. Eventually the ecosphere might reach some kind of stable state, or could even die out completely, but there are very many extremely complex factors involved so studying it and recording what happens may be really fun.

>>50430
what if we're just in an ecosphere? in a civilization where a highly sophisticated ecosphere that can have its own universe and produce conscious beings would be a baking soda and vinegar volcano to us. heat death is the ecosphere dying out

>>50472
i wrote that, i'm basically suggesting philosophy implicitly

>>50472
So you have also watched men in black?

>>47955
>internet addiction

I suppose you do not download emulators netiher ROMs from old consoles from the intanet.

Know minecraft? I began to abhor it a lil bit but sometimes it can have its spark (using mods of course, without them it is pure cr*p) when I play with Thaumcraft.

I have really terrible memory and I suck at reading so lots of hobbies are out of reach for me. Any suggestions for hobbies that don’t require memory or reading?

>>50484
OP here.
I like playing old NES games, but I don't see playing computer games as a hobby. I tried Minecraft btw, but couldn't have fun.

I've been doing Calisthenics exercises with the pull-up bar and parallel bar stand at home and I bought a second-hand Kindle Paperwhite 2, which made reading so much easier and cheaper for me.

Also, I translate porn videos and create subtitles for the website of someone I know. I can't say I enjoy doing this lame work, but this is where I am getting my money to survive. These are the hobbies I've got, and I will keep doing them as I feel so much better doing them.

>>50529
>I bought a second-hand Kindle Paperwhite 2, which made reading so much easier and cheaper for me.

Yeah e-readers are a godsend if you enjoy reading but don't want to spend money buying books or dealing with going back and forth to the library. Reading on the computer sucks since you have more distractions available and it's harder on the eyes.

>>50528
How about model making?

>>50529
>Also, I translate porn videos and create subtitles for the website of someone I know. I can't say I enjoy doing this lame work, but this is where I am getting my money to survive. These are the hobbies I've got, and I will keep doing them as I feel so much better doing them.
that sounds weird and interesting, can you describe it more?

>>50582
Someone I know has a porn website. He uploads porn videos with Turkish subtitles. He has a list, and he gives it to me daily. I download the video and create subtitles with Subtitle Edit by listening to the crap. He makes so much money a month and I get money per video. That's all.

>>50588
It’s still pretty interesting, to hear about anyway. I’d imagine one gets tired of hearing Turkish fuck grunts, though.

>>47998
That's probably a graphics design skill, of which is a saturated occupation since the early 2000s.

Then again this is hobbies so go for it.

>>47999
Not OP but I get writers' block and tip of the tongue phenomenon simultaneously unless it's shitposting my current thoughts.

>>47991
I should get good at sowing and get some cloth printer to make dolls out of this and sell them. The people that do that manually overprice their animu dolls.

>>48006
'Gone fishing' is a literal phrase.

>>50430
>>ecosphere
>not vivarium
>not miniature biosphere
>that accent

As much as I hate jewtube these Indians need to stop being so annoying.

>>47955
Everything is too much effort for me to have a hobby outside of collecting Internet files, mostly reaction images and books, neither of which do I use that often. Everything worth doing takes too long and I have too many distractions. I've wanted to learn basic computer programming skills for over ten years, but the parents are too loud and getting a job would only make for even less peace. Drawing, I guess I'm okay at but never use a graphics tablet so no one would care but me. Drawing with no one to share it with feels lonely. Botany would take too long and with my practical bipolar nature they would all die as seedlings. It's too hot outside and people are awful out there too much to go camping. I do read but go years without doing so because I have vision problems were I start to see double at hour 3, but only with books for some reason. I forget to blink and such when absorbed; most books sucking ass notwithstanding. I liked building things with my hands but have no money to get things like wielding equipment or a kiln or pastor or anything really. I live in the city so I can't make a forge out of the clay nor a kiln in a big hole.

I love thinking about new hobbies and never actually going through with having one. Other than the reaction images and anonymous forum posting.

If the economy wasn't so shitty I'd have a par time job to pay for the things I'd like to do. As the system is it wants to demand my time too harshly even if I was employed, so I give no them no time, and they give me no money.

So I guess I know your pain. I blame the times. No one else in my family history suffered as I have. Everyone else made it in life and generally are more incompetent and more lazy than I am.

>>51407
*are/were

>>50484
The top of the page tells you gaming is not for hobbies you know.

>>47955
Try bicycle archery

>>51573
BRB, looking to see if that is a thing on youtube.

Well, there are a few people doing it, but it doesn't seem to be a wide spread sport or anything.
Still interesting.

>>50410
cooking

>>47955
Playing guitar is a good hobby, you need to learn how to read tabs which is very easy and then you can print tabs of songs you like and try to play them.

>>51407
OP here again, and bored to death. I feel all the things you say. Everything looks tiresome and I do not think I am young for such things anymore. I am 25yo but feeling like an old man on his deathbed.

Nowadays, I am just reading some poetry and trying to write something in my native language, but it is boring af as well cause most of the time is spent on considering what I am going to write. Anyway, take care, fellow. Good luck.

There's so much to pick from, I don't understand how you "can't" find a hobby. Seems like you mentioned three hobbies you're interested in then gave yourself excuses not to do them. Then you spend your days in front of the computer browsing the internet or watching dumb shit or whatever you do. Then you feel "the same sickness and boredom" and make this thread.

>Doing it, but it's dangerous because retards on the way are driving me crazy. Also, one cannot go cycling in the rain or bad weather usually.
Then don't do it in the rain or bad weather. You don't have to do it every day.

>I am interested in mountaineering, but it requires socializing and enrolling to a club. Also, I'm lack of equipment and it's hard to start with free-solo. Trekking seems pretty nice, but it's not an everyday activity.
No it doesn't require socializing. And so what that it is not an everyday thing? Two weekends a month sounds good, and if you're a NEET you can do it once a week on a weekday to avoid normies.

>I easily get distracted since I have internet addiction and it's so hard to leave my chair in front of the laptop.
Turn it off and leave the house. Go to a public library or space and read there. It'll keep you from getting distracted by the laptop. Return home when you've done your reading for the day.

Spread out your multiple hobbies across the day and week. Create a SCHEDULE and stick to it. Especially if you're a NEET with lots of free time. Don't piss that time away doing bullshit. Hobbies that you can do every day, do every day, such as reading. It takes TIME and EFFORT to get into your routine and to begin enjoying your newfound interests. Don't listen to your monkey brain telling you to sit in front of the dopamine rectangle all day. Your higher rational mind doesn't want to do that, as evidenced by this the sickness and boredom of your current status, and this thread.

There, I fixed your problem. Now you have no excuse. Good luck wiz.

>>52175
Read and follow my advice >>52197.
Why do you care about being old? Do you have anyone to impress with youth? In case you are insecure about your age, you have as much a right to occupy space as the normalcattle around you. Don't fear.

I have a few hobbies. Dont get too many but get a few so you can rotate them around when you get bored. Like i might be really into fitness for a few months, then get bored and do progamming, then when bored of that i play football etc. It takes about a week or 2 to refresh my self to the level i was at before i stopped.
I have a hard time scheduling my day to be something like 1200-1300 gym, 1400-1500 read, 1500-1600 eat, 1600-1700 program etc, im better off just going all out on one hobby for a few months and then switching all out to another hobby when i get bored.
Starting up new hobbies feels like a waste of time and like youre getting nowhere.
Make sure you got your habits and hobbies set by the time youre 30.

>>52197
>>52198
>>52200
You're telling me the truth. I need to stop bitching and stick to what I like and stay consistent. Thank you, good fellows.

Internet addiction as always prevented me from ever permanently picking up a hobby.
The only way i've been able to try cope with it is just replace it with small amounts of hobbies i wanted to pick up. Starting with 5 minutes and building up from there, hopefully drowning out my desire to use the internet as much at some stage

>>52221
So quit choosing to be addicted to the internet.

If you dont enjoy anything it might be depression. i dont know how you feel though so i wouldnt know. just throwing that idea out there

>>47955
Bow-making

fuck me man i cant think of a single hobby id enjoy

>>52260
my parents practically got me addicted to it since age 5
too hard man

>>52432
yeah, how do people even get hobbies? i straight up dont get it.

>>52373
Cool video but wouldn't most pallets be made out of pine?

>>47955
Try doing psychedelic drugs as a hobby

Try music, you can get a cheap midi controller and Flstudio is free. Making a tabletop game can be interesting.

>>52775
You can only do it once ever 1-2 weeks due to tolerance.