I was rewatching the 1964 BBC WW1 documentary series, 'The Great War; recently and it contains of course a lot stock footage of artillery being operated. Watching the recoil on these heavy guns in that footage got me wondering, how many men got killed and injured just because they weren't paying attention and didn't move out of the way of the recoil? The back end is kicking back in some manner and your body if its in the way isn't going to stop it. I wonder how many shattered limbs and skulls just from bad luck and the recoil of their own heavy weapons.
>>54049 wouldn't a better strategy be to be blatantly armed to dissuade people from instigating anything? You could still hide secret weapons in case they attack anyway and you want to be tricky.
>>54051 concealing weapons is against the law anyway unless it's a handgun in a state with no-license carry, or it's an "ordinary pocket knife" (whatever that is) as the stupid laws call them
in my experience of seeing people open-carrying handguns these past 17 years, others in public tend to take a wide berth around them, although it's impossible to know what others are thinking I assume nobody wants to attack or try menacing a man with an obvious handgun in immediate reach
criminals and thugs are usually cowardly like that
>>54059 I meant to add that I don't know if a knife (I think a large knife) open-carried would have the same intimidation factor but maybe, and you;d rather not get caught concealing that anyway
I quite like the poleaxe and would enjoy owning one or some had I an appropriate yard and the money for a high-quality reproduction or good condition antique.
>>54132 I think it would be fun to swing around and get a feel for it and check out treatises and manuals people wrote through history, besides just displaying it somewhere in home of course. It would be fun I think to practice some proper forms with it, and then rig up some test cutting/striking.
it's almost ten years since i bought one of those under-$20 cold steel fixed blade knives for everyday carry with the stainless steel, plastic handle and nylon sheath, it's been fun having a weather proof knife that i don't need to worry about rusting or how it looks but also know it's high quality
>>54660 Would benefit from even a minor guard I think, they resemble kitchen knives at first glance. But pretty cool for under 20 bucks and weather proof no nonsense is nice.
I wish they still made huge folding knives like over 7" blades like centuries ago in the OP pic, I started making one and got halfway until my mom's relentless bullshit fucked up my entire year
I thought about digging the parts out and finishing it, iirc the blade is 13" from a W2 nicholson file, I never made a folder before and figured why not go big
the cold steel GI tanto seems to be an underrated knife, I've owned a lot of knives but this model is very hard hitting for its blade length, one time I used it to chop a big tree branch a storm knocked down
the blade isn't very long or thick (1/8th inch) but the width gives it a lot of sectional density to cleave deeply, it has always felt like a short bowie honestly, I paid $26 for it back in the day but last I looked they're still priced at around that, for a self defense knife it's a great bargain, like if you're a poor neet
I made mine a real sheath and rosewood handle because the old-model cord wrapped grip was useless, the new model has a full size grip though and zytel sheath iirc
I wish it were possible to have a collapsible spring loaded steel staff that is not super heavy or a piece of shit, that'd be some goku power pole stuff
I always wanted the power pole
pinterest was running an ad at me for the "MAGIC BO" or whatever with fancy looking kung fool action of weebs waving around this 4' long "self defense" staff that collapses to the size of a small tylenol bottle, when I investigated the thing it showed a cutaway and the tubes must have been like 1/100th on an inch diameter, god, you might as well carry a wet paper towel tube for defense
>>55163 It's not a weapon and it has long been a prop for magic tricks. You would think a wizard would know that.
Anyway they have bo that kinda work like the police batons if you want some that can actually hit stuff. They are still pretty big but the go from jo size to bo size. It's as close as you are getting to what you want.
>>55164 it was being advertised as a weapon >You would think a wizard would know that. not sure how being a male virgin means I should know about vegas stage magic
I wanted a bullpup that accepted stanag magazines for a while and settled on the Type 97 NSR Gen 3 as the cheapest option. There's whispers that Norinco is phasing off selling rifles to us so better now than never. The Type 81 I bought last year was apparently the last batch and has already doubled in price on the used market so if I don't beat this up too bad it might be a return investment. Should be here by Thursday.
>>55211 I was just thinking about norinco yesterday, that's weird. Specifically their clones of other companies' stuff. Are they as good as (I used to hear) people say? I haven't been a gun person in 20 years.
>>55212 tl;dr: Their clones range from bad BUT cheap to good AND cheap, but in the last decade there has been an emergence of European cloners that make a better product for occasionally cheaper prices.
Norinco is big in Canada precisely for their clones. I have their M305 (M14 SOCOM clone) and it's great. It was made with the original US tooling. It's quite literally rough around the edges though. There's residual milling spurs and some of their own magazines are tight fitting, but it's a solid accurate shooter. It was $600 new. The next cheapest M14 on the market was I think a Springfield Armoury version that cost near $2,000.
From Norinco I have a 12" sxs coach gun, an 11.5" 1887 sawed-down clone. and an SKS from them too. They're all crap, the store selling me them even said they were crap and reviews by other owners say the same.
The SXS got stuck closed on me twice due to poor milling of the extractor. The foregrip/takedown mechanism is wiggly. The cocking portion of the hammers is thin and smooth while the chamber edges are that distinct Chinese milling sharp. There's a concerning amount of headspace between the chambers and back plate too. A 12" SXS is something that idiotss like me would want but couldn't make themselves because >laws, so Norinco answered by making one and pricing it fairly for what it is. They make a full length version that's somehow $20 cheaper.
The SKS gas tube cover and locking mechanism popped off the first shot and won't stay down, and has a few millimeters of play when locked in place. The stock was cracked from factory. This was milsurp though so it was a diceroll. They offer A-Grade and even Honour Gaurd versions but a good Russian SKS is still the same price.
The 1887 is, again, sharp like a knife on contact points and despite being designated the "T" model (for "Terminator") they package it with the standard lever design that breaks your fingers if you try to cock it with one hand, which is also made of edges sharp enough to tear flesh. It too was 1/3rd the price of American reproductions of the same gun+configuration.
The Type 81 is a crap gun no matter who made it. It's only a discussion piece because there's just 20 in the whole US. Norinco imported it to Canada under their poorly reputed Polytech subsidiary for some reason. It looks like an AK from a distance which is why it's hot shit up here and admittedly why I bought it, and while on paper it is more advanced and modern than a standard AK-47, the machining on the things lack any refinement. The barrels are ALL bent at the receiver by up to a whole degree, the sight adjustment is sticky and painful, anything that needs to be operated with fingers is small and sharp beyond usability with gloves or in the cold, the folding stock is rattly, the standard stock has no cheekage, and they left the grenade launcher on despite no grenades ever being produced for it. It begs to be cleaned after every outing because there's no dust cover safety like on the AK, and it's possible to sort of softlock the whole firing mechanism when attempting to dryfire it safely by guiding the bolt forward with the trigger pulled, preventing operation or takedown until you shove a punch down the action to reset the hammer. That might be the case for a lot of guns though.
I've also shot much a Norinco 1911 clone and a Remington 870 clone. They were both good across the board, but there are nicer clones of either model everywhere by Eastern Euro manufacturers. Norinco offered a retro AR-15 CQC package that was also priced at around $600 CAD that was well reviewed. They just came out with a Winchester M1897 clone that is also selling out at a third of the price for an American reproduction, and actually maintains the distinctive barrel shroud that Western MFGs charge a bit for.
Much of this is likely irrelevant to what you hear about them though. Norinco notoriety in the West came from their absurdly affordable models of RPG-7s and assorted HMGs that they were (legally) selling to civilians. Whether it was in the name of safety and quality regulation or due to pressure from US manufacturers, the US wasn't going to take that shit from China so they shut them out. Canada on the other hand seems to be owned by China for the most part, so Chinese active service battle rifles like my Type 81 and 97 were silently exempt from the long ban list of "military" guns such as antique single-shot .50 cals and "evil" looking long pistols like the CZ Scorpion EVO.
>>55221 you own a sawed-off? those are illegal wait don't I remember there's an ATF exemption for pre-1900s shotgun designs even if they're breechloaders? is that the deal?
>>55222 In Canada, SBS are legal and non-registered so long as they're 26" OAL. In the case of the coach gun and the lever action, their OAL exceeds 26" despite their short barrel length. The quirk about this though is that the barrel has to be made short from the factory. If you have a 35" OAL with a 20" barrel and saw even 1" off the barrel, that becomes an illegal barrel despite the OAL being legal. If you saw the stock off completely and have just a barreled action that still exceeds a 26" OAL, then that is fine. Buying a barrel that was made short from the start - as in no modification to the length after it left the factory - you can replace the longer barrel on a shotgun with this factory short version legally, again so long as it meets OAL requirements. If you want to go deep, a licensed gunsmith may shorten, test, and safety approve a barrel and sell it, or if in doing so he lowers the OAL of his gun below 26", he may register the whole package as a restricted firearm and sell it to a restricted license holder. >pre-1900s shotgun designs Not sure how it is in the states but up here, (most) guns with a manufacture date before 1898 is considered an antique firearm which puts it on the same legal level as an airsoft gun from the hardware store. If it's a reproduction like the 1887 I have that was made in china 3 years ago, then it's not technically an antique. Unless it's a flintlock or wheellock black powder firearms in which case replicas of models preceding 1897 are often considered non-firearms.
If i sawed off my barrels illegally of course I wouldn't rush to FBIchan 2020 to blog about it
every time I look a new "tactical" sword comes out and it's spring tempered and they make it a big selling point, about how it's so soft you can bend it into a U shape, you might as well get a $10 machete then
they do make some nice looking and affordable designs these days www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SD35580 but the extreme softness sucks
>>56194 Wait, are they saying "you can force it into a U shape and it will return to true" or "it can easily be bent into a U it's so flexible"? Spring temper is about it being able to flex under stress and return to true instead of getting a set bend or snapping, it's not supposed to be about it being soft.
>>56195 >"you can force it into a U shape and it will return to true" they're saying that part, the thing is though that's necessarily soft, like 45HRC soft, the level of hardness that springs get tempered down to, or a good flexible wood saw, they're obviously thicker/stiffer than a wooden hand saw but just as soft, that means poor edge holding
this is a hand -and-a-half short sword (23" blade) and scabbard I made, even though swords are pretty weak weapons, I wanted to do something more complicated than usual, and some parts like distal tapering the blade after it was hardened were nasty work, I made a sling so it hangs vertically in front of my shoulder and wore it around my house the last couple days but I felt like an idiot so now it's just gonna sit in my room and collect dust, if trouble ever comes knocking I'll just grab my hammer or bat or something
blunt weapons are really great and underappreciated, everyone thinks swords are superior somehow but it doesn't take cutting a person to stop an attack when a broken arm/leg will do that, and without getting STD infected blood on you, and swords generally can't cut through most clothes anyway
I always wanted a miniature tetsubo, I think those are called kanabo iirc, if it were light enough and about 30-36" you couldn't ask for any better large weapon and it'd be practically indestructible
>>56311 Wow very nice. Your sword should be extremely effective against anyone without medieval armor, wiz. Just don't cut, stab. Stabbing someone center of mass will stop their attack far better than a club. The problem with a blunt weapon is that it requires speed and that generally means you'll need space, and winding your weapon will give them a chance to avoid your attack. A quick succession of jabs with a sword is probably difficult to avoid or counterattack unless they were already expecting to fight a medieval knight. Even then, most people will be to afraid to press closer if you are wielding a sword, whereas a club won't be as intimidating.
>>56312 Just drawing a sword requires space, so in whatever situation where there's limited space and would hinder a large blunt weapon, it would hinder a sword …. it's a non-issue. On avoiding a swing by anything, it may be possible if your opponent's weapon is so long or heavy that it takes "winding" and telegraphs the direction that he'll swing it in. That's another non-issue with light, short weapons. Generally weapons in the 20"-36" range and 1 to 2 1/2 lbs in the hands of a man of average strength can be swung faster than normal human reflexes can respond to. This is physics and has nothing to do with martial arts by the way.
A person can continue functioning for up to 30 seconds even if his heart is stabbed or shot through and stops beating, it doesn't guarantee stopping an attack. Also, stabbing a wild normie is just another way to get splashed with gonorrhea and herpes blood. You're seriously better off with bear mace than any object where the plan is to stab a would-be attacker.
>>56326 Stabbing a wild norp in the heart/lung will stop them faster than breaking their arm, that much is guaranteed. >That's another non-issue with light, short weapons. Generally weapons in the 20"-36" range and 1 to 2 1/2 lbs in the hands of a man of average strength can be swung faster than normal human reflexes can respond to. Yes, strikes can be done so quickly enough and with little enough telegraphing that it would be unavoidable if you didn't expect it, but most people will predict attacks based on other smaller telegraphs that happen before the swing itself. I'm sure you've been watching Skallagrim/Lindybeige et al since you know about strike telegraphing, and I'm sure you've heard them explain that it's not possible to have no telegraphing but it is possible to minimize it. In any case, I just said that a stab with a sword would be better than swinging a mace for a close quarters home invasion situation in which there likely wouldn't be enough room to safely use typical slicing strikes. >You're seriously better off with bear mace than any object where the plan is to stab a would-be attacker. Probably, I don't know enough about how quickly it can disable an enraged norp.
I bought a cheap chinky P228 clone and will buy a psurp Beretta 92s, just waiting for the government to push their pencils.
Dark times for Canada. Libs are pushng a bill that bans "firearm-shaped" things, so we're suddenly at Britain levels of hysteria where an old plastic toy gun from the dollar store is classified as a weapon.
And they just past a bill creating a unofficial registry, banned most rifles, nearly all magazines, and all imports. Confiscation incoming. Time to "lose" your guns and get ones off the books.
>>57353 that's one of the biggest reasons I dropped guns like a bad netflix anime a long time ago, civilian gun ownership is just more trouble than it's worth under the modern political climate, and the modern attitude, even in "gun friendly" places you'll get viciously wrung through the injustice system for a self defense shooting and probably destroyed even if you're someday acquitted, and as recreational objects fuck 'em, ammo is so expensive you need a seven figure income just to buy the amount it takes to get your rocks off, cuz that $30, twenty round box of 45. at walmart is nothing
>>57353 Yeah and the most ridiculous thing is they passed those laws in response to the Nova Scotia shooter Gabriel Wortman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nova_Scotia_attacks) who bought his guns illegally and did NOT have a valid firearms license.
These laws wouldn't have changed a damn thing. They need to go after the gun smugglers, gangs, mafia, etc, not the law abiding citizens who are already doing everything by the book.
>>57355 the american federal government actually doesn't care about private gun ownership as much as you believe, there are reasons for their incremental disarmament agenda but none of them is because of a fear that the peasants will ever start shooting back, in the most extreme scenario there could be martial law starting tomorrow with tanks rolling through city streets and going door to door stealing the guns and next to nobody would do shit about it
>>57357 >and next to nobody would do shit about it that's the thing about these peasant revolts; you dont need all, most, or even half of them to be somewhat successful. you just need enough dedicated, semi-competent people willing to fight and die for their shit to be enough of a pain in the ass for the authorities. i think the coronavirus situation, in addition to the domestic unrest in recent years and subsequent response, should illustrate how incompetent the feds really are.
>>57376 > the coronavirus situation yeah about that…it's really the best example yet in this country of how far you can oppress the people and they still won't revolt, armed or otherwise >>57366 pretty much, there are certain mechanical reasons that place swords at the very bottom of effectiveness amongst weapons, at least as cutting weapons, you wouldn't know it given how popular they are and always have been historically, but there's a reason for that as well and it's the same reason why other things like gold and "precious" stones are so desirable, humans have always exalted impractical objects and the more useless the better
>>57377 >the people and they still won't revolt I see someone doesn't watch the news or has a bizarre personal definition of revolt. How many times do armed people showing up to government locations and telling the goons that they ain't doing lock down bullshit, and then the goons backing down and unlocking down, do you need before you stop saying people won't do anything? Or do you think it only counts if the US went full retard and started behaving like the french revolution?
>>57378 >armed people showing up to government locations they don't, that's a federal offense and they'd get arrested are you deliberately weasel wording with "government locations?" because if you mean trump rallies and stuff, which are just in the general vicinity of government locations, and some buffoon who's probably an agent provocateur wearing an AR-15 on a sling, that's totally different
>>57377 >yeah about that…it's really the best example yet in this country of how far you can oppress the people and they still won't revolt, armed or otherwise i mean, there have been some significant protests, even europeans have started burning shit. i think a big reason people arent as pissed as they could be is because they largely still have their distractions. the lights are still on, food is largely still stocked, feds arent going door to door to fuck with people en masse yet.
i think the notion that the federal government is just another bloated, incompetent, corrupt, bureaucracy is still a bitter pill to swallow for conspiracy theorists and bootlickers alike.
>>57386 no thanks, I really don't care what FBI agents posing as protestors do with their guns, and this ain't the politics thread anymore, get back on topic
>>55091 Dunno if you're still here or if anythings changed, but you really, really should at least practice with it at a range before remotely thinking you could handle yourself with it.
>>55091 what's with the prominently placed bag or yerba? >>57609 if "handle yourself with it" means using it in self defense, that something you learn (supposedly) at those expensive ass tactical shooting schools, not at a gun range
>>58043 Just a note to anyone that might be tempted to respond to this
Don't as it can be used against you, you can be arrested over it, and they will use it against you in court if they arrest you. Even if this user isn't a spook he is a idiot.
Remember the 5th and don't admit publicly to crimes that can put you away from over 10 years. Don't be retarded keep your mouth shut.
>>58145 Besides being permanently low on ammo, doing fine. Went down to the indoor fun range last week and spend like $50 in 9mm ammo just on that trip. I think it's time to build a few .22lr for cheaper practice.
>>58145 that's not a weapon unless you're shooting mice >a RUcap k98 goes for several thousand?? what else is new, the price gougers have dominated things since obama was elected, as if one needed even more reasons not to bother with useless guns
>>58176 you always wait until this thread is on page 2 to sage an insulting shitpost, you're so predictable and a coward, that was totally uncalled for
>>58192 Always the liar and shit stir. Was on page 1 when posted. You aren't here to talk about weapons you are just here to attention whore and be disruptive like the shit slinging troll you are. Fuck off.
Re: stun guns Anybody know of a quality brand? Stun guns, not tasers. I've been looking specifically for models with 4.5 milliamps minimum, after googling all day I only see some dubious no-name $20 things and everything else out there only lists the voltage, which is a meaningless figure. They might be only 1 or 2ma for all anyone knows and you simply can't trust them without knowing the real specs, it'd be like buying reduced load handgun ammo. Would be nice to have more non-lethal options than just bear mace on certain days. >>58193 The term is shit stirrer, and it's what you are. Get banned.
Sorry, it seems that by specifically requesting bestiality homos ignore my post, I managed to summon one and he's back here shitting up the thread and continuing baiting with his "bear mace" posts like he has every other year. I'll think twice about posting in the thread if there's a chance it will encourage the anchorgefag to troll it.
Anyone here interested in archery? I bought my first bow recently, for some reason I struggle with the below-the-arrow modern draw style, my arrow falls off a lot and tends to fly extremely off the mark, but I experience no such problems with traditional mediterranian draw.
for like 1000 years africa made these humongous throwing star-like things, the design is really fascinating and fearsome, they weighed about 3lbs, sharpened all around, made to cleave or stab no matter which part of them struck a target, there was a dumb TV that showed one thrown at a ballistic gel torso and carved it all to hell
given the widepread popularity of ancient weapons nowadays it's odd that the design hasn't been re-incarnated by some manufacturer in all these years, an average throw could probably one-shot kill a man
>>59617 >there was a dumb TV Just because the guys on Forged In Fire know more about weapons than you do doesn't mean that the show is dumb. >an average throw could probably one-shot kill a man Maybe in Africa where they don't have emergency health services.
>>59617 >it's odd that the design hasn't been re-incarnated by some manufacturer Even if the overall shape will be CNC'd, the number of grinding they will have to do on the edges will make it a complex and probably financially unviable niche product.
>>59620 nah, they know they could just have it drop-forged in a die like half the crap out there nowadays is, complexity isn't a problem that way, it's how modern industry makes things all the time that are much more complex than an african hurlbat
>>59617 Cost of production compared to very low demand means it's too niche for someone doing modern manufacturing. However it is economically viable for the small batch custom market where the buyers are willing and able to pay high prices. Except even in that market there is really low demand. It's just really obscure and doesn't really have the rich fanboys of other custom weapon/blade designs.
>>59625 Make a poll then, ask /k/ if they'd buy one, learn the facts. >inb4 "i don't eve know what /k/ is nor should I Educate yourself on whether or not it's "odd" that no company has put resources in to manufacturing the big African self-harm inducing clusterfuck of a throwing weapon that has no application outside of killing other humans. Why aren't companies mass producing spiked flails? They're good at killing people in one blow too. They can't cut meat, shave wood, be packed on a belt, and they're capable of seriously harming the operator if even a small blunder is made, just like that voodoo nigger thing you posted, so why not? What a fucking mystery these aren't on store shelves.
And maybe stop bumping this thread with the intent to cause a ruckus because your mom told you to clean the shit bags out of her basement and you need to take your frustration out on a bunch of anons.
>>59628 Woah woah woah. You need to chill way the hell out. There is no reason to be this aggressive and inflammatory in what was a calm conversation and mild disagreement.
>>59627 There's a difference between deduction and speculation you pretentious wannabe intellectual motherfucker. One's just your opinion. Fact is every industry industry invents demand. For repro weapons it started in the 2000s when you were still shitting yourself in diapers, with those low-brow sites where corrupt admins and youtube reviewers popularized swords et al for kickbacks from the manufacturers. The demand wasn't organic. They continue to invent demand in new ways.
Now look at any cold steel catalog, the biggest seller of exotic weapons in america. Talk about niche. Did anyone know they wanted a tactical indian war club before? It was listed for 12 years. What about a tactical shovel? Listed over 20 years. There are lots other examples out there from different manufacturers.
So we can deduce that you're talking out of your ass, and that a company offering an african mambele would, with a little sensationalistic writeup or video, probably be selling them for a very long time. >They can't cut meat, shave wood, be packed on a belt >seriously harming the operator if even a small blunder is made in other words almost all repro weapons on the market, dipshit
I wish I had a gun but are neet and live with the mother and she's a felon so I can't have one. We're poor as well so I don't have the tools to make a lutty or whatever and live in an apt on top of it so it'd be too loud to try to make one and I'm not carrying around some shitty 4-winds.
I carry a knife at the belt and a wooden knife I carved at my neck under a shirt in case I need to jab it into a lung if the first knife were lost, or eye, or gut, etc.
I have more than one knife and lots of bludgeoning weapons inside the house like a wooden sword and club and machete and etc. I bring with me a hiker's stick so there's that too when I go out fairly often as I have a foot issue anyway that flairs up.
I did try to make a sort of matchlock gun but realized aluminum is literally 20 times less sturdy than steel so the load would be 20 times less so it'd be weaker than a pellet gun at that point and overly loud.
I wish they had very powerful crossbows that could fit in a pocket, or a very powerful spring loaded gun that fired a single stake or something.
If I ever have money of any kind, rejected from ssi many times, I'd buy an old cowboy type cap and ball six shooter to outfox the regulations. I hear in some areas you can order them right to your door, in this area even a baton was blocked from being ordered here though as I live in a gestapo shithole due to local laws but I could if I had money just go to a gun store somewhere else in another state after using a greyhound bus. It'd be a great adventure and I'd finally feel safe after blowing like 800 usd on the kit and gun itself and powder and everything.
About martial arts, I do pushups every day in multiple positions as well as other exercises so as to not be a complete dumbass that would also be the 50 percent of the population about to end up on dialysis from cardiovascular complications. Stretches, situps of various kinds too, very long walks (hence the fucked up foot). I often punch walls but had to stop as my right hand became not what it used to be from it.
>>54025 >keep your blogging about attacking people away so we won't break the law by typing something Speak plainly.
Also >"normie"
>>54486 Why do you complain about people complaining on the Internet? You do realize that's hypocritical, right?
Honestly this whole persona that I won't utter that invaded imageboards only like guns because they're dickheads for the sake of it as though it adds ambiance when in fact it blatantly taints the ambiance.
>>59632 If you self censor you're being a very good goy indeed. Words on paper don't break the law, stop it. Why would they take down your site if you let them control you before taking it down? Red it tier corporate wh*re pandering.
>>59617 I remember when my area banned throwing stars….
>>58049 Not that I was the deleted wiz but but what it was was not illegal to talk about. This gray area law shit is a slippery slope you morons are on. Why even make the thread?
Also I may as well bitch completely off topic that the site has been getting glitches lately that it's 'unsafe' so you people are on a dying site anyway that's not being taken care of. Depending on the browser comments you made are invisible or on another the site itself will time out so this pseudo legal pandering is pretty pointless.
>>59632 Not that wiz either but have you ever tried not being a coward? Is that why you need the weapons? Soul shattering cowardice of the pigs coming to get you?
This thing weighs like 8 pounds at least with loaded magazine in it, and its hilariously inaccurate. I still love it and I like to carry it around my house and imagine I'm an 80s cocaine trafficker or Tommy Vercetti or some shit. Barrel extension is in the mail.
>>59997 It's cleaned and well-oiled, all mechanisms work properly (so far). There is some minor surface scratches and pitting in the Cerakote (I think that's what they used on these?) if you look closely, but nothing too unsightly.
>>60003 $600 US funbux. And I don't need a range, I live in bumblefuck county, southern U.S. so I just find a field in the countryside and set up some bottles and cans to shoot.
I'm thinking of getting my 1st rifle, but I'm not sure if I should get a Ruger American Rifle or a Ruger 10/22 semiauto
I'm leaning towards the bolt action, as the less complex parts that can go wrong, the better. Easy to clean etc. It is a bit slow and annoying to have to pull the bolt back each time. But as a noob, I need to be concentrating on each individual shot anyway. The only downside is a bigger recoil mulekick, but it shouldn't be too bad with smaller caliber.
A good thing about the semiauto is that as I get more advanced, it would be cool to fire quickly. And the Ruger 10/22 is a real beginner's gun that even kids can handle. So maybe I'm overthinking how complex a semiauto is.
I'm just planning on practicing at the range for now
>>61397 The Ruger 10/22 has a huge cult following and tons of aftermarket parts that completely change how the gun handles. It's reliable and Ruger has a good warranty and service reputation. .22LR is the cheapest caliber and the 10/22 is capable of shooting even the budget Freedom Bucket stuff, as well as subsonic rounds if you want to play around with suppressors. You can very much learn all the fundamentals of firearm handling, care, and sighting with it. Dumping a 100rd drum of 22 down range as fast as possible is really fun. >the less complex parts that can go wrong The 10/22 uses a direct blowback system, so there's no real barrel locking mechanism to speak of. A modern bolt action would typically have more moving parts than a semiauto .22. A large calibre rifle demands optics rated for such powerful impulses, so you'll have to put good money in to an optic, whereas the cheap red dots and feature-rich scopes found on Amazon under various brand names are rated well for even the stronger .22WMR
>>61398 I second this. 10/22 is a great gun/platform that I highly recommend. You can learn a bunch without spending a lot and once you got everything down it's just a super fun gun that's good enough to be used as a intro to other shooting sports.