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I had gone to a Xian school and to church on and off as an adult. Somwhere during that time I was on this thing called Youtube and it led me to atheism. I eventually found my way to agnostcism, that we can't/don't know, an non-anthropic God entity, etc. I currently listen to the Xian street preachers and "feel drawn to the spirit". This is a spirit of fear, either of God or Satan. For clarity, I'm not dismissing that fear. Instead, it is what has led me to seek the LHP.
Watching the movie "The Exorcist" gave me a sense of fear. To me, it is like the Chinese food that is commercially popular. It may not be authentic, but it is at least different. The sense of fear and anxiety that I expereinced watching that movie for the first time did not really compare to anything Xian. More to the point, I actually saw the movie, whereas I only imagined Hell.
I happen to think that what happened to Regan is possible. I have come across with I would guess are not very effective methods of protection such as placing a piece of silver on the Ouija board, not letting it spell Zozo or go in 8s, carrying it in a black bag and…not doing it by yourself.
At this point, because of having done what I consider good spiritual practices, and having renewed my interest in Xianity prior to considering Satanism, I don't know what to do with myself spiritually. I don't have the knowledge or experience to say I'm ready to go in this direction. However, I've grown weary of online forums and non-Spiritual research in general. That is to say, there is an element of secularism even in researching Spiritual things, and at this point I am seriously considering doing a "Hail Mary" and messing with the Ouija boord (by myself) and perhaps other Occult/Magick practices.
I don't know how popular the chad/beta ranking is on this board but let me just say if you are not a chad then magick could be your way out of being beta.
Also, I acknowledge I received a warning.
Watching the movie "The Exorcist" gave me a sense of fear. To me, it is like the Chinese food that is commercially popular. It may not be authentic, but it is at least different. The sense of fear and anxiety that I expereinced watching that movie for the first time did not really compare to anything Xian. More to the point, I actually saw the movie, whereas I only imagined Hell.
I happen to think that what happened to Regan is possible. I have come across with I would guess are not very effective methods of protection such as placing a piece of silver on the Ouija board, not letting it spell Zozo or go in 8s, carrying it in a black bag and…not doing it by yourself.
At this point, because of having done what I consider good spiritual practices, and having renewed my interest in Xianity prior to considering Satanism, I don't know what to do with myself spiritually. I don't have the knowledge or experience to say I'm ready to go in this direction. However, I've grown weary of online forums and non-Spiritual research in general. That is to say, there is an element of secularism even in researching Spiritual things, and at this point I am seriously considering doing a "Hail Mary" and messing with the Ouija boord (by myself) and perhaps other Occult/Magick practices.
I don't know how popular the chad/beta ranking is on this board but let me just say if you are not a chad then magick could be your way out of being beta.
Also, I acknowledge I received a warning.
Why the hell did you post this on /hob/?
What does any of this have anything to do with doing hobbies?
What does any of this have anything to do with doing hobbies?
Why enter a theological system where you're on the losing team and bound for eternal torture?
i dont trust religions of any sort
buddhism gets a pass though because it i personally just find it all interesting, disregarding whether or not its really a religion
buddhism gets a pass though because it i personally just find it all interesting, disregarding whether or not its really a religion
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>>57908
The Satanists you're speaking about are just upside-down Christians. The only source material they have is the Christian Bible that very clearly says the devil and his angels are burning in hellfire. The only holy book with your deity in it says your deity sucks and lost, and if you worship him you're joining the losing team and will be tortured for it. One would have to be mentally retarded to worship the devil of Christian theology
The Satanists you're speaking about are just upside-down Christians. The only source material they have is the Christian Bible that very clearly says the devil and his angels are burning in hellfire. The only holy book with your deity in it says your deity sucks and lost, and if you worship him you're joining the losing team and will be tortured for it. One would have to be mentally retarded to worship the devil of Christian theology
Why is this on /hob/? I hope nobody falls from this crap. Satanism was a CIA invention from day 1 and only Jesus Christ can save you
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>>57910
Sometimes I look at North Korean propaganda and think, "What if the Christian theology is the equivalent to NK propaganda, and we haven't heard the Devil's side of things? What if life is all a giant shit test to see if you can parse through and figure out which side is really the peaceful one?"
The reason I think this way sometimes is because if I go back to the source–the Bible–instead of all the theologians, it make the Devil look…awfully reasonable and peaceful. That's the one thing that I never really understood about the Bible. You'd think if the Devil was the enemy, it'd be a lot more one-sided and clear-cut.
Sometimes I look at North Korean propaganda and think, "What if the Christian theology is the equivalent to NK propaganda, and we haven't heard the Devil's side of things? What if life is all a giant shit test to see if you can parse through and figure out which side is really the peaceful one?"
The reason I think this way sometimes is because if I go back to the source–the Bible–instead of all the theologians, it make the Devil look…awfully reasonable and peaceful. That's the one thing that I never really understood about the Bible. You'd think if the Devil was the enemy, it'd be a lot more one-sided and clear-cut.
>>57912
Ignore him. The guy is just an elitist who likes to gatekeep. He's done this with other threads in /hob/.
Ignore him. The guy is just an elitist who likes to gatekeep. He's done this with other threads in /hob/.
>>57915
It could be argued that gatekeeping is good, actually essential to a site like this, and that the very natural of this site is elitism and exclusion.
Hope this site and this board isn't meant for everyone.
It could be argued that gatekeeping is good, actually essential to a site like this, and that the very natural of this site is elitism and exclusion.
Hope this site and this board isn't meant for everyone.
>>57914
I remember thinking this myself. What if Satan/Lucifer is the true God, which is why the elite supposedly worship him.
Then they tell you the exact opposite, making you terrified to death of worshipping the correct God. Then they say that Satan is the prince of lies and stuff, so that you never question it.
Then they get all the power and prayers answered, while you are praying to the useless one.
I remember thinking this myself. What if Satan/Lucifer is the true God, which is why the elite supposedly worship him.
Then they tell you the exact opposite, making you terrified to death of worshipping the correct God. Then they say that Satan is the prince of lies and stuff, so that you never question it.
Then they get all the power and prayers answered, while you are praying to the useless one.
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>>57914
>"What if the Christian theology is the equivalent to NK propaganda, and we haven't heard the Devil's side of things?
We haven't heard the Devil's side of things, because he's too weak to tell us
>What if life is all a giant shit test to see if you can parse through and figure out which side is really the peaceful one?"
Your chart is displaying the power of Yahweh and the weakness of the Devil. If you want peace convert to Jainism
>>57919
>What if Satan/Lucifer is the true God, which is why the elite supposedly worship him
The elites are overwhelmingly Sabbatean-Frankist Jews that worship Yahweh through antinomian practices, such as murder, rape, orgies and child sacrifice. One form of Yahweh they're fond of in particular is the Pre-Biblical form of Yahweh called Moloch. Pre-Biblical Hebrews engaged in a lot of human sacrifice, which is why the Bible then condemns it so many times
I don't need to warn you about heroin fifty times because you're not a heroin addict. Similarly only a people that have a long history of human sacrifice need to be told not to do it so many times
Anyways, my point is that in Christian literature the Devil is weak and that's the only literature that exists on him. In Germanic Paganism the god Loki is currently chained to a rock in a cave with a poisonous serpent constantly dripping venom onto his face as a form of punishment for his crimes. He remains there being tortured until Ragnarok when he'll break free and fight the gods. Some few retards worship Loki, who is currently chained to a rock and screaming in pain, despite the fact that he can't help them until Ragnarok which is thousands of years away, if ever
It's objectively stupid to pick a religion and then worship the loser, bad-guy in that religion
>"What if the Christian theology is the equivalent to NK propaganda, and we haven't heard the Devil's side of things?
We haven't heard the Devil's side of things, because he's too weak to tell us
>What if life is all a giant shit test to see if you can parse through and figure out which side is really the peaceful one?"
Your chart is displaying the power of Yahweh and the weakness of the Devil. If you want peace convert to Jainism
>>57919
>What if Satan/Lucifer is the true God, which is why the elite supposedly worship him
The elites are overwhelmingly Sabbatean-Frankist Jews that worship Yahweh through antinomian practices, such as murder, rape, orgies and child sacrifice. One form of Yahweh they're fond of in particular is the Pre-Biblical form of Yahweh called Moloch. Pre-Biblical Hebrews engaged in a lot of human sacrifice, which is why the Bible then condemns it so many times
I don't need to warn you about heroin fifty times because you're not a heroin addict. Similarly only a people that have a long history of human sacrifice need to be told not to do it so many times
Anyways, my point is that in Christian literature the Devil is weak and that's the only literature that exists on him. In Germanic Paganism the god Loki is currently chained to a rock in a cave with a poisonous serpent constantly dripping venom onto his face as a form of punishment for his crimes. He remains there being tortured until Ragnarok when he'll break free and fight the gods. Some few retards worship Loki, who is currently chained to a rock and screaming in pain, despite the fact that he can't help them until Ragnarok which is thousands of years away, if ever
It's objectively stupid to pick a religion and then worship the loser, bad-guy in that religion
>>57919
If he is the true God then he is no better than the mainstream one. This would be the person who enjoys his followers raping children and treating millions of people across the world like shit, if I ever see him I would only be nice out of fear, not respect as if he enjoys rape and slavery, who knows what his morality is like
If he is the true God then he is no better than the mainstream one. This would be the person who enjoys his followers raping children and treating millions of people across the world like shit, if I ever see him I would only be nice out of fear, not respect as if he enjoys rape and slavery, who knows what his morality is like
>>57908
>What do you mean trust? Do you not feel fear when you see this movie? Do you think it's all in you imagination?
the exorcist? i havent seen it, but i dont see why seeing a movie would make me want to subscribe to any religion
>What do you mean trust? Do you not feel fear when you see this movie? Do you think it's all in you imagination?
the exorcist? i havent seen it, but i dont see why seeing a movie would make me want to subscribe to any religion
>>57930
>It's objectively stupid to pick a religion and then worship the loser, bad-guy in that religion
…..then why the flying fuck are you posting on WIZARDCHAN?
>It's objectively stupid to pick a religion and then worship the loser, bad-guy in that religion
…..then why the flying fuck are you posting on WIZARDCHAN?
>>57933
Do you fear something that you also don't believe to exist? If that movie puts a fear of the devil in you, would it not count for something? Simply put, do you not believe in demonic possession?
Do you fear something that you also don't believe to exist? If that movie puts a fear of the devil in you, would it not count for something? Simply put, do you not believe in demonic possession?
Don't listen to them, OP. You are on the right track. I am a satanist, I worship myself and respect Satan for rebelling against the cosmic order and the divine rulers. The new generation of gods committed much greater genocides and more horrible things than demons=ancient gods ever did. Cronus and his reign in greek mythology is considered a golden age for humans, while Zeus is responsible for the shitty current world. Prometheus was also a titan like Cronus, part of the ancient gods. You are most likely familiar with his story.
Jesus came to judge humanity, despite what he lied numerous times. Satan and the demons are the ones who are protecting us even currently from the wrath of Yahweh and other divine authorities. The "villains" are usually the good guys in most religious myths and folklore.
Also, great movie by the way. The book is also great.
>>57910
Things are much more complicated than that. If you know the truth and what the right thing to do is you should fight for this cause even though you know you are bound to lose in the end. Anyways, prophecies are mostly lies. It wouldn't be the first time God/the gods and their prophets lied.
Jesus came to judge humanity, despite what he lied numerous times. Satan and the demons are the ones who are protecting us even currently from the wrath of Yahweh and other divine authorities. The "villains" are usually the good guys in most religious myths and folklore.
Also, great movie by the way. The book is also great.
>>57910
Things are much more complicated than that. If you know the truth and what the right thing to do is you should fight for this cause even though you know you are bound to lose in the end. Anyways, prophecies are mostly lies. It wouldn't be the first time God/the gods and their prophets lied.
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>>57970
>I worship myself and respect Satan for rebelling against the cosmic order and the divine rulers
The primary issue with the modern world is that cosmic order has been lost. Healthy society has a natural order it follows with men on top that have values beyond accumulating possessions. In feudal Japan money was considering an impure and disgusting necessity used for facilitating trade and nothing more. Samurai would place their wives in charge of the household money so they wouldn't have to deal with it, because it was beneath them. However nowadays merchants rule the world and they're concerned with nothing but the accumulation of money. Fake democracies ruled by bankers have replaced all of the old monarchies
>Things are much more complicated than that
How so? It seems pretty clear from my perspective that the character Lucifer has lost and he exists as nothing more than a pathetic loser. Even in the OP, his only example of Satan's power is harming (but not killing) 12 year old succubi. Absolutely pathetic
>I worship myself and respect Satan for rebelling against the cosmic order and the divine rulers
The primary issue with the modern world is that cosmic order has been lost. Healthy society has a natural order it follows with men on top that have values beyond accumulating possessions. In feudal Japan money was considering an impure and disgusting necessity used for facilitating trade and nothing more. Samurai would place their wives in charge of the household money so they wouldn't have to deal with it, because it was beneath them. However nowadays merchants rule the world and they're concerned with nothing but the accumulation of money. Fake democracies ruled by bankers have replaced all of the old monarchies
>Things are much more complicated than that
How so? It seems pretty clear from my perspective that the character Lucifer has lost and he exists as nothing more than a pathetic loser. Even in the OP, his only example of Satan's power is harming (but not killing) 12 year old succubi. Absolutely pathetic
>>57930
If the Devil is so weak, why are Christians always blaming all the evils of the world on him? God has the Problem of Evil. The Devil has the Solution of Evil.
Christians are more likely to talk like Satan is the one in control. The happy christians (liberal protestants) comfortable with the creation sound more like Deists and basically just worship science and the big bang.
If the Devil is so weak, why are Christians always blaming all the evils of the world on him? God has the Problem of Evil. The Devil has the Solution of Evil.
Christians are more likely to talk like Satan is the one in control. The happy christians (liberal protestants) comfortable with the creation sound more like Deists and basically just worship science and the big bang.
>>57972
Most people are morons. According to the Bible the Devil and his angels are burning in a lake of fire and only rarely do demons escape. When they do escape they only harm the really weak, such as little succubi
Most people are morons. According to the Bible the Devil and his angels are burning in a lake of fire and only rarely do demons escape. When they do escape they only harm the really weak, such as little succubi
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Holy shit, stop taking scripture so literally. Every mainstream monotheistic religious current is descended from the same basic framework going further back in history than we can actually trace it. It's what you make of the shared wisdom therein that counts. "God" as you know it is a stone age allegory for biogenesis/the "spark of life" and "the devil" represents everything that would have cut your lineage short or brought doom upon it in pre-modern times. In other words: doing your part to bring humanity closer to extinction and further away from "the light of God".
If you're a wizard, you're already worshipping Satan. You're already going to "burn in hell" (dying alone and forgotten by the rest of the world.)
If you're a wizard, you're already worshipping Satan. You're already going to "burn in hell" (dying alone and forgotten by the rest of the world.)
>>57971
Are you 10 or something? You have an incredibly naive and romantic way of looking at history and society. You idealize some elite and rulers who never existed the way you imagine them, only in folklore they spread about themselves in the first place. Do you think 'fake democracies' and 'merchants' invented the whole fucking over others for more power thing? You should stick to comic books, /pol/friend.
No, the representatives of cosmic order and law were no different, are no different from others. This is the biggest scam of religion. That some people are virtuous and others sinners. Even christianity and eastern religions fall into this trap, even though they acknowledge in theory that everyone is a sinner. Because religion and the cosmic order you refer to are only lies that were designed to chain down most of the people, to explain to people why they are part of the lower caste. The reality is that the only thing that matters is power. In the old days when the ancient gods ruled power was the only thing that mattered, not what the morals of the person were. Current society may have a longer chain than previous religiousfag societies but humanity is still under the yoke of objective morality, laws and order. Simply because as long as people prefer security and peace to wars and conflicts freedom will never be achieved.
And just a bonus, but: your idea of cosmic law and order is a pretty new thing in the history of religion. I would even say this is the true rebellion. Satan and the demons represent the old gods, the actual rulers and friends of humanity. They are the "natural way", not what you understand as order.
If as you say Lucifer is a loser then why are you shitting your pants literally with fear because the world is in chaos, according to you? Religious propaganda can be disregarded, nobody knows how "judgement day" will turn out really. Satan and his armies may yet achieve victory. Even if we lose, we at least fought for the best thing in life: freedom. And I actually notice the satanic always peeking out even from under the robes of morality, virtue and piety. Catholic priests molesting children? The devil has more power than you even dare to comprehend. The very fact that living according to the laws of God is almost impossible proves also who stands closer to our nature.
>>57973
They aren't burning anywhere, Revelations is about the future and the end of time. They are here with us on this Earth, guiding us to freedom and power. Besides, like I said Revelatios is mostly just God threatening us and demons, like he always does. He is much weaker than he would like us to think. Even if you accept Revelations as true, it can be interpreted symbolically. The lake of fire John predicts and the eternal fire Jesus promises to most of humanity is the symbol of passion, life force and vitality. It can be interpreted that Hell is actually where people have their own ways and can live out their desires freely.
>>57974
I agree that scripture can be interpreted in numerous ways. But the devil is actually life and God is death. Religions as we know them are about denying life, yourself and preparing for death. Satanism is about focusing on the material world and living your life here, in the now.
Are you 10 or something? You have an incredibly naive and romantic way of looking at history and society. You idealize some elite and rulers who never existed the way you imagine them, only in folklore they spread about themselves in the first place. Do you think 'fake democracies' and 'merchants' invented the whole fucking over others for more power thing? You should stick to comic books, /pol/friend.
No, the representatives of cosmic order and law were no different, are no different from others. This is the biggest scam of religion. That some people are virtuous and others sinners. Even christianity and eastern religions fall into this trap, even though they acknowledge in theory that everyone is a sinner. Because religion and the cosmic order you refer to are only lies that were designed to chain down most of the people, to explain to people why they are part of the lower caste. The reality is that the only thing that matters is power. In the old days when the ancient gods ruled power was the only thing that mattered, not what the morals of the person were. Current society may have a longer chain than previous religiousfag societies but humanity is still under the yoke of objective morality, laws and order. Simply because as long as people prefer security and peace to wars and conflicts freedom will never be achieved.
And just a bonus, but: your idea of cosmic law and order is a pretty new thing in the history of religion. I would even say this is the true rebellion. Satan and the demons represent the old gods, the actual rulers and friends of humanity. They are the "natural way", not what you understand as order.
If as you say Lucifer is a loser then why are you shitting your pants literally with fear because the world is in chaos, according to you? Religious propaganda can be disregarded, nobody knows how "judgement day" will turn out really. Satan and his armies may yet achieve victory. Even if we lose, we at least fought for the best thing in life: freedom. And I actually notice the satanic always peeking out even from under the robes of morality, virtue and piety. Catholic priests molesting children? The devil has more power than you even dare to comprehend. The very fact that living according to the laws of God is almost impossible proves also who stands closer to our nature.
>>57973
They aren't burning anywhere, Revelations is about the future and the end of time. They are here with us on this Earth, guiding us to freedom and power. Besides, like I said Revelatios is mostly just God threatening us and demons, like he always does. He is much weaker than he would like us to think. Even if you accept Revelations as true, it can be interpreted symbolically. The lake of fire John predicts and the eternal fire Jesus promises to most of humanity is the symbol of passion, life force and vitality. It can be interpreted that Hell is actually where people have their own ways and can live out their desires freely.
>>57974
I agree that scripture can be interpreted in numerous ways. But the devil is actually life and God is death. Religions as we know them are about denying life, yourself and preparing for death. Satanism is about focusing on the material world and living your life here, in the now.
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>>57975
>You idealize some elite and rulers who never existed the way you imagine them, only in folklore they spread about themselves in the first place. Do you think 'fake democracies' and 'merchants' invented the whole fucking over others for more power thing?
In a monarchy when the king fucks up everyone knows it was the king who fucked up. If he fucks up bad enough the peasants revolt and chop his head off, because one man is responsible for the welfare of the nation. His reputation and prosperity is tied to the prosperity of the nation. However in the modern world we're ruled by a faceless class of bankers and merchants that can't be located or identified to any significant extent. Biden is a senile old pedophile with a microphone in his ear giving him commands all the time. Who is on the other side of the microphone? We'll never know
https://yournews.com/2021/01/23/2002830/video-bidens-earpiece-says-salute-the-marines-so-he-says/
We're at a point in time where random company executives are more powerful than the sitting president of the United States. Trump couldn't even ban tiktok with an executive order, and he couldn't even ban-evade on twitter. Amazon came into being despite operating at a loss for 15 years because it was supported by government subsidies from his friends in power. Amazon exists as a marketplace letting people sell their products for a 10% or so fee, and then amazon copies the successful products and lists the amazon version first that is sold slightly cheaper because it doesn't have to pay the 10% listing cost, and it drives the others slowly out of business. It's a fat parasite upon the world, like so many other companies with dozens of employees now in the US federal government, that is now more powerful than many individual countries. We're ruled by evil, faceless merchants that can't be rooted out, that can change the laws whenever they desire and that can drone strike people they don't like on the opposite side of the planet within minutes. Damn straight monarchism was better than this dystopia
>If as you say Lucifer is a loser then why are you shitting your pants literally with fear because the world is in chaos, according to you?
Baseless strawman. I address every issue that arises in my life rationally and directly, and I'm blessed with immense material prosperity beyond anything I could have ever hoped for or imagined a decade ago. Fear and hope are both irrational, selfish desires that need to be rooted out and destroyed. The one and only God is in full control of all of reality, He manifested this chaos directly by His will for His entertainment, so what is there to fear? The most than can happen to me is the destruction of this temporary material body made of dirt, and it doesn't even belong to me in the first place
>And I actually notice the satanic always peeking out even from under the robes of morality, virtue and piety. Catholic priests molesting children? The devil has more power than you even dare to comprehend
The sex drive is the microcosmic version of the creative power of the Lord. He gives us all things, good and negative. Happiness, prosperity, kindness, generosity, lust, anger, it all stems from Him. Frankly I don't even think your Satan exists as anything more than a metaphor. Perhaps there is a class of fallen angels, and perhaps there are evil spirits that float around causing mischief, but I haven't met them yet. The only evil I know is the evil that exists inside of my mind, that I'm working on conquering still
>Satan and his armies may yet achieve victory. Even if we lose, we at least fought for the best thing in life: freedom
The texts of the Bhagavad Gita and the Devimahatmya both take place on a battlefield with armies of good and evil fighting. Gods on one side and asuras on another. The most basic interpretation of this is as a metaphor for the human mind and conflicts we have within ourselves. You claim to seek "freedom" but your freedom is bondage to the demons of lust, greed, anger and passion
In the Gnostic interpretation of the Bible, Yahweh IS Satan, which is why he's such an asshole blowing cities up, killing people all the time and causing havoc. The snake in the tree was Christ, giving knowledge to Adam of his bound condition, leading him along the path to freedom. This is likely far closer to the truth, which is why corrupt men in organized religion attempted to suppress it
As Carl Jung said, "The function of religion is to protect us from an experience of God."
>You idealize some elite and rulers who never existed the way you imagine them, only in folklore they spread about themselves in the first place. Do you think 'fake democracies' and 'merchants' invented the whole fucking over others for more power thing?
In a monarchy when the king fucks up everyone knows it was the king who fucked up. If he fucks up bad enough the peasants revolt and chop his head off, because one man is responsible for the welfare of the nation. His reputation and prosperity is tied to the prosperity of the nation. However in the modern world we're ruled by a faceless class of bankers and merchants that can't be located or identified to any significant extent. Biden is a senile old pedophile with a microphone in his ear giving him commands all the time. Who is on the other side of the microphone? We'll never know
https://yournews.com/2021/01/23/2002830/video-bidens-earpiece-says-salute-the-marines-so-he-says/
We're at a point in time where random company executives are more powerful than the sitting president of the United States. Trump couldn't even ban tiktok with an executive order, and he couldn't even ban-evade on twitter. Amazon came into being despite operating at a loss for 15 years because it was supported by government subsidies from his friends in power. Amazon exists as a marketplace letting people sell their products for a 10% or so fee, and then amazon copies the successful products and lists the amazon version first that is sold slightly cheaper because it doesn't have to pay the 10% listing cost, and it drives the others slowly out of business. It's a fat parasite upon the world, like so many other companies with dozens of employees now in the US federal government, that is now more powerful than many individual countries. We're ruled by evil, faceless merchants that can't be rooted out, that can change the laws whenever they desire and that can drone strike people they don't like on the opposite side of the planet within minutes. Damn straight monarchism was better than this dystopia
>If as you say Lucifer is a loser then why are you shitting your pants literally with fear because the world is in chaos, according to you?
Baseless strawman. I address every issue that arises in my life rationally and directly, and I'm blessed with immense material prosperity beyond anything I could have ever hoped for or imagined a decade ago. Fear and hope are both irrational, selfish desires that need to be rooted out and destroyed. The one and only God is in full control of all of reality, He manifested this chaos directly by His will for His entertainment, so what is there to fear? The most than can happen to me is the destruction of this temporary material body made of dirt, and it doesn't even belong to me in the first place
>And I actually notice the satanic always peeking out even from under the robes of morality, virtue and piety. Catholic priests molesting children? The devil has more power than you even dare to comprehend
The sex drive is the microcosmic version of the creative power of the Lord. He gives us all things, good and negative. Happiness, prosperity, kindness, generosity, lust, anger, it all stems from Him. Frankly I don't even think your Satan exists as anything more than a metaphor. Perhaps there is a class of fallen angels, and perhaps there are evil spirits that float around causing mischief, but I haven't met them yet. The only evil I know is the evil that exists inside of my mind, that I'm working on conquering still
>Satan and his armies may yet achieve victory. Even if we lose, we at least fought for the best thing in life: freedom
The texts of the Bhagavad Gita and the Devimahatmya both take place on a battlefield with armies of good and evil fighting. Gods on one side and asuras on another. The most basic interpretation of this is as a metaphor for the human mind and conflicts we have within ourselves. You claim to seek "freedom" but your freedom is bondage to the demons of lust, greed, anger and passion
In the Gnostic interpretation of the Bible, Yahweh IS Satan, which is why he's such an asshole blowing cities up, killing people all the time and causing havoc. The snake in the tree was Christ, giving knowledge to Adam of his bound condition, leading him along the path to freedom. This is likely far closer to the truth, which is why corrupt men in organized religion attempted to suppress it
As Carl Jung said, "The function of religion is to protect us from an experience of God."
>>57978
Based, this is finally an anon we can say has achieved a lot of wisdom. While I don't agree with everything (I don't believe in 'metaphoric' interpretations of the Bible), he knows a lot.
Based, this is finally an anon we can say has achieved a lot of wisdom. While I don't agree with everything (I don't believe in 'metaphoric' interpretations of the Bible), he knows a lot.
>>57975
>Religions as we know them are about denying life, yourself and preparing for death. Satanism is about focusing on the material world and living your life here, in the now.
You have the right idea about what the devil is meant to represent, but rather than life vs. death, I'd say the true ideal of pious life is living for the future rather than the present moment. Selflessness and charity are virtues because they're means to build towards something better.
People are always gonna have a tendency to play these things up to a fault, though. Orthodox Judaism is one of the most vivid examples of this: emphasis on tradition and family, which were initially held in high esteem as a way to align men towards collectivism, have now since evolved into neurotic superstition and ethnocentrism. The message always gets lost along the way (usually once it gets picked up by a ravenous external party.)
In the same fashion, contemplation is only as valuable as how many people you can enlighten with your wisdom before you pass. Eastern religion is a lot less esoteric in its interpretation of this, it's got that over the Abrahamic cults for sure.
>Religions as we know them are about denying life, yourself and preparing for death. Satanism is about focusing on the material world and living your life here, in the now.
You have the right idea about what the devil is meant to represent, but rather than life vs. death, I'd say the true ideal of pious life is living for the future rather than the present moment. Selflessness and charity are virtues because they're means to build towards something better.
People are always gonna have a tendency to play these things up to a fault, though. Orthodox Judaism is one of the most vivid examples of this: emphasis on tradition and family, which were initially held in high esteem as a way to align men towards collectivism, have now since evolved into neurotic superstition and ethnocentrism. The message always gets lost along the way (usually once it gets picked up by a ravenous external party.)
In the same fashion, contemplation is only as valuable as how many people you can enlighten with your wisdom before you pass. Eastern religion is a lot less esoteric in its interpretation of this, it's got that over the Abrahamic cults for sure.
>>57986
>The message always gets lost along the way (usually once it gets picked up by a ravenous external party.)
My use of "external" here bothers me enough that I have to correct myself. A lot of what's wrong with organized Christianity, for example, can be attributed to this (it was reinvented as an instrument of power by Constantine) but these things also come from the inside just as often, if not more. Simple human nature at play.
>The message always gets lost along the way (usually once it gets picked up by a ravenous external party.)
My use of "external" here bothers me enough that I have to correct myself. A lot of what's wrong with organized Christianity, for example, can be attributed to this (it was reinvented as an instrument of power by Constantine) but these things also come from the inside just as often, if not more. Simple human nature at play.
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>>57976
You are descended from "trannies" too, sorry to break it to you. Read Plato, the first humans were shemales. Also, old testament genesis: God says let's create man AND succubus in our image. God created both man AND succubus in its own image. The god of jews and christians is actually a shemale. Very ironic.
>>57978
First, please keep the /pol/shit and your paranoid fantasies in the /pol/ thread on lounge. We have already more than enough /pol/shit derailing threads. Second, you are again acting like a child, assuming ridiculous things. Peasants getting angry and just chopping off the head of the king, yeah right, I can see that you aren't very much at home in history. This process literally occured only a few times, most of the time kings were killed by their own noble friends and rivals, not by the common people. Commoners couldn't even kill their own lords and nobles most of the time, not speaking about the king. So no, it wasn't as simple as peasants suffer, they go kill king. Third, again immense amounts of romanticism and nostalgia on your part by assuming kings didn't have "faceless" friends or people who gave them advices or influenced them. Instead of merchants, it was the churches, bishops, religious leaders who influenced events and decisions. Fourth, implying that merchants and bankers having power is a new thing tied to "fake democracies"…Literal merchant dynasties ruled Europe for hundreds of years, they gave popes, kings, princes, etc to the countries. So go learn history properly or stop lying through your teeth to shill your agenda here of all places.
Now for the actual on-topic stuff:
If there is one and only god then how can there be chaos? There can be only law and order. And again, why are you bothered by things being "upside down" nowadays if it is the will of god? You align yourself to the will of god only if it is convenient for your individual desires, thoughts and agenda. Typical example of a pious, god-fearing person. By the way, there is no single god. It is either a multitude of gods out there or there are no gods. Monotheism, monism and everything along this line of thinking is false.
Hah, if god is in control of everything then why is there "evil" inside you and people? You acknowledge that there are various forces at work in the universe yet you continue to cling to the idea of a single god. Who is this god fighting with? Himself? Don't make me laugh.
You have not the slightest idea of what freedom is so don't blaspheme. Your idea of freedom is exactly spiritual slavery. Lust, greed, anger and passion are all human qualities and natural. Why did the one god put them into us if he wants us to deny them? Nonsense.
I know gnostic scriptures and am familiar with them. Gnosticism is one of the most overrated kind of mysticism/spiritualism there is. At least most versions of it. The libertines were cool and generally those gnostics who stood closer to paganism than to eastern thinking.
>>57986
Religions are lies as we know them. Whether it is hinduism, buddhism, christianity, islam or whatever the case, as long as it preaches love for your neighbor and living peacefully along with others in my eyes it is nothing more than a control device. Religions are for the masses, they encourage collectivism and community-oriented thinking. Of all the places, I thought people here wouldn't fall for this trick. If someone should be against communities and collectivism it is us wizards.
Satanism: freedom, materialism, individualism, amoral or uncommon morals, focuses on gaining power and being able to project your own will onto the world aka magic, resonates better with females and young people, places emphasis on feelings, passions, desires and irrationality
Religions: strict adherence to authority, spiritualism over materialism, collectivism, traditional morals, the main focus is on getting in tune with the grand order of things and getting rid of your ego, resonates better with males and the elderly, places emphasis on rationality, logic, laws, customs, traditions, norms, etc.
Just a simple contrast I made, feel free to add to it or to debate it.
You are descended from "trannies" too, sorry to break it to you. Read Plato, the first humans were shemales. Also, old testament genesis: God says let's create man AND succubus in our image. God created both man AND succubus in its own image. The god of jews and christians is actually a shemale. Very ironic.
>>57978
First, please keep the /pol/shit and your paranoid fantasies in the /pol/ thread on lounge. We have already more than enough /pol/shit derailing threads. Second, you are again acting like a child, assuming ridiculous things. Peasants getting angry and just chopping off the head of the king, yeah right, I can see that you aren't very much at home in history. This process literally occured only a few times, most of the time kings were killed by their own noble friends and rivals, not by the common people. Commoners couldn't even kill their own lords and nobles most of the time, not speaking about the king. So no, it wasn't as simple as peasants suffer, they go kill king. Third, again immense amounts of romanticism and nostalgia on your part by assuming kings didn't have "faceless" friends or people who gave them advices or influenced them. Instead of merchants, it was the churches, bishops, religious leaders who influenced events and decisions. Fourth, implying that merchants and bankers having power is a new thing tied to "fake democracies"…Literal merchant dynasties ruled Europe for hundreds of years, they gave popes, kings, princes, etc to the countries. So go learn history properly or stop lying through your teeth to shill your agenda here of all places.
Now for the actual on-topic stuff:
If there is one and only god then how can there be chaos? There can be only law and order. And again, why are you bothered by things being "upside down" nowadays if it is the will of god? You align yourself to the will of god only if it is convenient for your individual desires, thoughts and agenda. Typical example of a pious, god-fearing person. By the way, there is no single god. It is either a multitude of gods out there or there are no gods. Monotheism, monism and everything along this line of thinking is false.
Hah, if god is in control of everything then why is there "evil" inside you and people? You acknowledge that there are various forces at work in the universe yet you continue to cling to the idea of a single god. Who is this god fighting with? Himself? Don't make me laugh.
You have not the slightest idea of what freedom is so don't blaspheme. Your idea of freedom is exactly spiritual slavery. Lust, greed, anger and passion are all human qualities and natural. Why did the one god put them into us if he wants us to deny them? Nonsense.
I know gnostic scriptures and am familiar with them. Gnosticism is one of the most overrated kind of mysticism/spiritualism there is. At least most versions of it. The libertines were cool and generally those gnostics who stood closer to paganism than to eastern thinking.
>>57986
Religions are lies as we know them. Whether it is hinduism, buddhism, christianity, islam or whatever the case, as long as it preaches love for your neighbor and living peacefully along with others in my eyes it is nothing more than a control device. Religions are for the masses, they encourage collectivism and community-oriented thinking. Of all the places, I thought people here wouldn't fall for this trick. If someone should be against communities and collectivism it is us wizards.
Satanism: freedom, materialism, individualism, amoral or uncommon morals, focuses on gaining power and being able to project your own will onto the world aka magic, resonates better with females and young people, places emphasis on feelings, passions, desires and irrationality
Religions: strict adherence to authority, spiritualism over materialism, collectivism, traditional morals, the main focus is on getting in tune with the grand order of things and getting rid of your ego, resonates better with males and the elderly, places emphasis on rationality, logic, laws, customs, traditions, norms, etc.
Just a simple contrast I made, feel free to add to it or to debate it.
>>57999
Religion offered control at a time when humanity was still in its infancy and actually benefited from being bound under a set of laws. I'm not preaching it as a solution to modern problems, just pointing out what function it used to serve historically.
Religion offered control at a time when humanity was still in its infancy and actually benefited from being bound under a set of laws. I'm not preaching it as a solution to modern problems, just pointing out what function it used to serve historically.
>>57999
Troons are dysgenic, inherently dysfunctional, largely infertile "people". They're a result of degradation and perversion of man and succubus and are incapable of creation. If God was a tranny he/she/it would've just made more useless infertile monsters.
Troons are dysgenic, inherently dysfunctional, largely infertile "people". They're a result of degradation and perversion of man and succubus and are incapable of creation. If God was a tranny he/she/it would've just made more useless infertile monsters.
>>57999
Literally dont care about religion tranny, the fact that there are men who are so braindead that they want to become succubi is so disgusting, it's even more disgusting when people just accept it and not try to prevent it by looking at the cause (trannies are caused by a fault in pre-natal conditions, more specifically, the mother not giving enough testosterone to the child in the womb. Pregnant succubi are exposed to thousands if not millions of endocrine distributors such as BPA, modern fire retardant material, etc which mess with prenatal testosterone development which then causes the birth of gays, bisexuals and trannies)
Literally dont care about religion tranny, the fact that there are men who are so braindead that they want to become succubi is so disgusting, it's even more disgusting when people just accept it and not try to prevent it by looking at the cause (trannies are caused by a fault in pre-natal conditions, more specifically, the mother not giving enough testosterone to the child in the womb. Pregnant succubi are exposed to thousands if not millions of endocrine distributors such as BPA, modern fire retardant material, etc which mess with prenatal testosterone development which then causes the birth of gays, bisexuals and trannies)
>>58017
>>58027
There is nothing wrong with trannies or with homosexuality. Homosexuality exists in the animal world too, my boy dogs before getting castrated tried to fuck each other all the time. Now, personally I find the idea of malexmale repulsive, though I have zero problems with lesbians, in fact it should be encouraged for succs to be lesbians/bisex. Faggot men are disgusting to the eye, if I had the power I would force all homosexual men to be operated into trannies. Not just gay men but generally all weak males should be turned into trannies, they are already females trapped in male bodies after all.
>>58002
It depends on your values. If you value freedom and individuality then religion was the biggest mistake in history.
>>58027
There is nothing wrong with trannies or with homosexuality. Homosexuality exists in the animal world too, my boy dogs before getting castrated tried to fuck each other all the time. Now, personally I find the idea of malexmale repulsive, though I have zero problems with lesbians, in fact it should be encouraged for succs to be lesbians/bisex. Faggot men are disgusting to the eye, if I had the power I would force all homosexual men to be operated into trannies. Not just gay men but generally all weak males should be turned into trannies, they are already females trapped in male bodies after all.
>>58002
It depends on your values. If you value freedom and individuality then religion was the biggest mistake in history.
>>58036
Yes animals can be tranny fags, but animals also get exposed to certain hormones and conditions in fetal development and nowadays with microplastics poisoning the water everywhere you'll bound to get animals who's brain chemistry got fucked during fetal development. It's like seeing a down syndrome retard gazelle and believing being a down syndrome retard is natural/not bad since animals get it too.
If you think rape, pedophilia, murder and torture is wrong then wait till you see the stuff animals such as chimps, bulls and dolphins do
Yes animals can be tranny fags, but animals also get exposed to certain hormones and conditions in fetal development and nowadays with microplastics poisoning the water everywhere you'll bound to get animals who's brain chemistry got fucked during fetal development. It's like seeing a down syndrome retard gazelle and believing being a down syndrome retard is natural/not bad since animals get it too.
If you think rape, pedophilia, murder and torture is wrong then wait till you see the stuff animals such as chimps, bulls and dolphins do
>>Homosexuality exists in the animal world too
>homosexuality has been recorded
animals with 5 IQs who are too dumb and horny to tell they're humping the wrong sex isn't quite homosexuality in the way that queer advocates dress it up to be to further their agenda
>homosexuality has been recorded
animals with 5 IQs who are too dumb and horny to tell they're humping the wrong sex isn't quite homosexuality in the way that queer advocates dress it up to be to further their agenda