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 No.157691

Internet browsing has been an enormously important part of my life. From my young teenage years through to my late 20s. I have spent a tremendous amount of time browsing all kinds of forums and archives. For me it was a great way to learn about the world, and these creatures called humans that inhabit it, from the safety of my room. Especially as someone with autism, reading countless anecdotes of human behavior has been valuable.

As I approach 30 though, in recent years I am finding myself growing disinterested in forums and discussion boards. Wizchan and some other obscure topic-specific forums are the only places I visit these days, and those visits are becoming more infrequent. Not to sound too romantic about it, but I feel like I'm in the "twilight years" of my internet browsing career. Although this place is special to me, if this trend persists then I may eventually stop visiting here as well. With this in the back of my mind I am savouring my time here. I'm savouring it because I fear that as I continue to age I will no longer browse here due to the lack of novelty and/or not being able to relate to the (on average) younger userbase.

Can anyone else relate to this feeling?

One of the things I treasure most about this place is that the attitudes here align with my own value system. It is a truly wonderful feeling to have your world view validated. There is no way I could ever find such validation in meatspace. To be told (indirectly/abstractly) that there is nothing wrong with me and that I'm fine the way I am. That is precious to me.

I don't know where I'm going with this but I just wonder how ephemeral this subculture is. Will it somehow disappear or will I eventually leave on my own accord before that happens?

What is life like once one outgrows the internet?

To be clear when I mention internet use here I'm referring to lurking in forums and discussion boards and the like. Not using the internet as a utility. Certainly I have many technical interests and the internet is a tool for that, but what I'm referring to in this post is distinct from utilitarian internet use.

Topics similar to this have been discussed here in the past so I apologise if this is a repetitious post.

 No.157704

The internet is overrun with young people. I've taken to reading books, gardening, drawing, writing… There's only so much to talk about on forums like this. Find something cool or create your own escapism

 No.157708

>>157691
I've never been invested in this place, except perhaps in my early teens. I'm just here to forget about my own life. Neither do I feel connected to anyone here, even though I am a loser.
To stop browsing this place would mean to grow up which i'm completely incapable of.

 No.157710

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>>157708
>I've never been invested in this place, except perhaps in my early teens.
Wizkid on the loose!

 No.157711

>>157710
damn you caught me

 No.157712

>>157691
Very common topic.
You've just grown up.

 No.157733

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Been on the internet for 16 years. Probably spent more than 60,000 hours here. Posting on imageboards so all my posts are long ago gone. Never kept accounts long enough on sites to build up any history. Never made any online friends. I don't really have any strong memories, I don't really remember any specific things I learned. One day I close the browser for one last time. I stand up from my chair. I turn off the computer, I unplug it, and I put it in the trash. There's not a trace I even existed and not a mark left online of my activity. I look at my empty desk and walk away, it might as well have been a dream.

 No.157735

>>157691
>Can anyone else relate to this feeling?
I would leave the internet myself if I had better things to do, I don't see such a big deal in it. I view this whole "internet lifestyle" as a pretty flatline existence, I don't cherish this in any way. I just go on here because I don't know what else to do.

>One of the things I treasure most about this place is that the attitudes here align with my own value system. It is a truly wonderful feeling to have your world view validated. There is no way I could ever find such validation in meatspace. To be told (indirectly/abstractly) that there is nothing wrong with me and that I'm fine the way I am. That is precious to me.

I don't even like this place that much, it's more like the only option, the only place you can find some like-minded people. I don't like most of the people here. Been on and off this site for years, somehow found my way back this time. Last time it seemed to be infested with trolls so it was unbearable, that problem seems to have improved a little bit now. Unfortunately the retards still dominate this site and seem to have a need to voice their shitty opinions and thoughts everywhere, the quieter more introspective ones probably don't have as much of a need to share what's on their mind.

>What is life like once one outgrows the internet?

Probably a whole lot better, hopefully I'll get there one day.

 No.157736

>>157733
Not going to lie, it's pretty poetic. Also hits quite close home and sounds eerily like the thoughts I have.

 No.157737

>>157733
we are ghosts and wanderers, to be forever forgotten by history. Anonymous tags in a sea of faceless men.

 No.157742

>Can anyone else relate to this feeling?
Kinda, I'm 26 and reaching that age where I feel older than most of the people on imageboards, most posters seem so immature now.

I'm a shutin so I will always use the internet, I rely on it for my social interaction. I guess I'll have to migrate to some forums where middle aged people go in the next few years.

 No.157798

>>157733
you left some history in your ISP browsing logs

 No.157818

>>157798
Those things rotate daily

 No.157840

>Can anyone else relate to this feeling?

Yeah but only because drug addict hackers, who I'm pretty sure have forgotten any mutually good reason why they're even doing it anymore, have been stalking me for 3 years now. It's painfully dehumanizing and has made 90% of everything not worth it anymore.

 No.157841

>>157840
*90% of everything I used to enjoy, but hey, my life isn't exactly on my good side either in terms of that anymore.

 No.157843

There was an interesting post the other day on another forum that showed FBI posts from another message board. The FBI was trying to fit in, using acronyms, and being forceful in trying to change group opinions toward "the correct views" as deemed by those authoritarian figures.

The new internet is coopted, controlled, and anything organic quickly squashed and subsumed. Remember that and it's easier to leave. This isn't the internet you grew up on. This is the nuinternet, full of feminist, soyboys, and the actual FBI fudging forum posts to try and manipulate you. Look into it.

 No.157845

>>157843
Best part is there's no way to say whether you are an FBI either. If you are, just give it a rest, since what you're trying to "reveal" is common knowledge since ten years ago. Even so, it's much easier to take control of a space if you can convince its residents to leave voluntarily, isn't it, Mr. Party Van? That is, if you even are FBI.

 No.157847

>>157843
Lol, now I'm just envisioning a movie in the near future that's like the "Dances with Wolves" for the internet age, with an Assange/Snowden-like FBI figure as Kevin Costner's character.

 No.157856

>normalfags who stroll in here and act like this is all one elaborate roleplay because they can't comprehend wizard psyche
will it ever end

 No.157857

>>157845
The FBI actually revealed it themselves by accident recently by publishing a report with 8chan screencaps full of (you)'s

 No.157858

>>157857
Laughing my wiz ass out

 No.157885

Browsing conventional forums with permanent IDs and such really is an intolerable experience.

 No.157902

>>157857
Can someone post this? Haven't seen it myself.

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 No.157941

>>157903
That was probably the guy who sent the tip in. I wish the FBI would do something about the Russians on 4/8chan but they clearly haven't. The guy who was smart enough to connect these dots on 4chan is also smart enough to recognize the Russian presence there as anyone who posts there regulary and has a basic understanding of global geopolitics would know, especially if you were there for years when the operation was much more obvious and sloppy and noticeable. You have to understand that the Russians are not going to be talking about Russia, they are not there to just tell you how great Russia is, they are there to control the narrative around everything in a way that benefits Russia. They are trying very hard to radicalize people on these platforms by constantly controlling what these people see and crafting an alternate version of reality and it's obviously working. The christchurch shooting was clearly a giant win for the Russians so it would be natural to suspect they would be promoting the 4chan threads.

 No.157942

>>157941
This, OMG, so much this!
#RESIST
#StillWithHer

 No.157943

>>157941
The putinbots are the tip of the iceberg, and they’re not exactly subtle…

 No.157962

>>157941
fuck of CIA nigger

 No.157964

schizos go away please

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 No.157969

>Can anyone else relate to this feeling?
Yes

 No.159799

never felt a true connection to any internet forums except hobby related ones in my life.

 No.159808

>>157941
I wonder why people like you always completely ignore the fact that Israel has exponentially more control over American politics and culture than Russia does.

 No.159813

>>159808
because Israel is ally of USA while Russia is the enemy of USA

 No.159874

Holy fucking shit every single site worth a damn is dying. (((they))) took down 8ch, now 4chan is getting fucked with, and every other imageboard site are starting to get attention of feds despite being small. It's like they want to kill anon platforms completely as soon as possible and now I can't even imagine being on the Internet in a few years. It's gotten to the point where reading a random book is better, even if it's a shit book. Even worse is I have to travel back in time by 10+ years to find media to watch that isn't full of propaganda/poz.

 No.162637

>>157691
I'm 30 myself and am hoarding data so I can live in the woods growing my own food with various tech devices to back up my other tech devices so I don't have to come back very often. I just don't have the assets I need or you'd not even see me posting anymore.

 No.162638

>>162637
You'd still need a way to generate electric power if you want to use anything like a computer. How're you gonna do that?

 No.162642

>>162638
A 16 usd solar panel that can charge my cell in a couple days along with gobs of usb power banks with various usb devices to go with it (water flosser, lighter, shower, fan, hand warming pads, etc). Even if it is shit I can go into town off and on to charge the pile of batteries and not have to come back for a while.

 No.162643

im 20 years old and in about 2017 i realised how we (i mean teenagers) slightly destroy the internet with whith our shity toughts and memes, so i decided to left internet for a while. at least i get about 20. Becouse i tought im harming the internet like my peers. So i decided to quit instagram and reddit. After a while, in 2019 my theories get stronger. Theese litle cancers really concured the internet. a few years ago i started to read paragraphs in 4chan i found these people close to me. And after a while ı found here. Now i dont like instagram and reddit any more . Becouse i cant match their souls with me becouse I get one level up. It is just my opinion but you might get one level up too. how ever it is kinda sad to see internet veterans sightly left from internet and a dumb generation infecting the internet.

 No.162647

>>162643
I feel your pain. The internet isn't what it used to be. I've been on it since I was 7 or 8 years old and it was a decade of fun then a decade long slide into the shitter. And it's only going to get worse as the internet becomes more ubiquitous. More normalfags, more centralized, more restricted.

 No.162652

Everyone complains about centralization and about how is all so controlled today but theres literally nothing on the old internet that isn`t easier to find today in even bigger quantities, not a thing, and without going into deepweb or anything. Maybe pedo shit? is the only thing i can think off that used to flood everywhere on the clearnet but now is gone, but other than that nothing else, you can easily pirate shit, find all the banned edgelord books, talk racism and be a dick and theres no shortage of gore and weird porn, want to talk about your niches and theres a place somewhere, in fact every niche has so many outlets now that hardly anything is a niche anymore, it just doesn`t feel novel, there almost nothing that feels unique anymore, its all a washed up remix from something else.

15 years ago there wasnt anything better, internet sucked balls actually but what you did find felt like it had more of an impact, even the stupid fucking memes, fake rumours and creepypastas that seem naive and inmature felt novel, or just the idea of it existing thanks to a new form of communication, now memes are normie shit that make me sick. I have actually gone back and read archives of old conversations and stuff from forums, because forums were sooo much better than social media is today right? not really, it was all garbage, you can find more info on a topic if you google today than you could by spending days talking to basement dwellers on forums and waiting hours between each shitty comeback. Chats were just as cumbrained as social media is now, i literally can`t empathize with people who romanticize earlier internet, you were just too young to realize it was always mostly shit and a waste of time, best thing to do is to pirate a shit ton of content to consume offline and only check back on wathever niche board you hang in every so often.

 No.162663

>>157733

That was oddly beautiful

 No.162664

>>157798
The amount of negligible information that they can prove came from you is of no consequence if you were careful. Plausible deniability ends up happening and it can't be proven to have been any specific person. 'They' want you to take it more seriously than it really is but no one is making you sign a contract with every post you make. None of it is official, often dynamic IP's are default, people delete cookies or block them, not everyone uses javascript even (he said long ago lost so back in the day it was not necessary), etc. Plenty of forums bit the dust that were anonymous.

Also ISP's remove all the data too every now and again to save money. Do you really think some ISP is going to indefinitely save your information when you are no longer of relevance? After like 3 months they dump it probably.

 No.162665

>>162652
>cumbrained
Thanks for outing yourself so that I can disregard your post. You could have saved me some time by using that word in the first sentence.

 No.162666

I just found out about zeronet , it's a p2p internet
All sites on this network are distributed on peers and no one can take a site down
I liked it so far

 No.162667

>>162665

>Cumbrain


It's kind of amazing/bothersome that one dimensional concepts have such memetic power among so many people online: the proliferation of unironically referring to people as "chad/stacy", "dopamine fasts", etc. Feels like everything's being dumbed down due to how easy it is for the masses to get online

 No.162669

>>162665
But you are such a pure and true wizard, how do you even know what such a sinful forbidden word means?how could you have known about it, such a puzzle.

 No.162672

>>162664
If only you knew how bad things really are

 No.162683

>>162672
Stop regurgitating shitty memes here

 No.162684

>>162683
Yea, the place for that is /b/, not here.

 No.162708

>>162683
Oh no oh fuck it's the meme police. Please officer I beg you don't write me up I'll never post a meme you don't like again

 No.162748

>>162669
I only learned about it from tards on wizchan. I don't keep up with the latest meme fashions.

 No.162768

>>162666
I tried posting on it a few months ago when 8 went down. It didn't let me post so I gave up on it since then.

 No.162773

>>157737
well said

 No.162783

>>162768
i don't browse 08chan much(it needs zeroid to post btw)
i use zerotalk , a decent forum and a few torrent-like sites

 No.162843

As others have said, there may never be anything like the old Internet again in our lifetime. The sense of freedom and anarchy, a hangout for misfits and outcasts where you could meet likeminded people and escape the normalfaggotry of society, all of that is never coming back. It was a brief interlude between the rise of a new medium and the realization by corporations and governments that it can be exploited and controlled like the old media. The trend now is for increased centralization and corporatism with the Internet turning into (if it hasn't become so already) TV 2.0, as all the big players carve up their niches and the Internet becomes a collection of 5 or 6 major websites linked to everything else. All the while a Matrix is being created for the majority of the population where life will play out on social media and people will never have to look up from their smartphones.

Other than a few ghost towns like wizchan, there really is nothing out there. Where can someone go to escape the cancer that is the Internet 2.0? Maybe we'll go offline again and form occult secret societies, that's about all I can think of.

 No.162847

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>>162843
>Maybe we'll go offline again and form occult secret societies

 No.162848

>>162847
Is that your beanie hat politik?

 No.162852

>>162843
> here may never be anything like the old Internet again in our lifetime. The sense of freedom and anarchy, a hangout for misfits and outcasts where you could meet likeminded people and escape the normalfaggotry of society, all of that is never coming back.

I wouldn't think so. When I read these lines I think of the past where there was sea-voyaging, and the wild-west of cowboys; even back then these cultures existed largely as pockets away from the common people for men who were outsiders, loners, and did not find themselves fit to live among the common people.

The internet may now be commercialized and centralized, but loners and eccentrics have always and will always exist, and will continue to move deeper and deeper underground. There is no worry of being absorbed by the ever expanding horde because the avenues for adventure are limitless. Once the children take-over the playground, you just move on to the next park.

You over-dramatize how bad the internet is and over-romanticize how good it used to be. Sites like wizchan still exist, so who cares what goes on in the "mega-Net", or what normies are doing? Don't mourn over what's past, enjoy what you have now and look forward to the future.

 No.162856

>>162847
fuck off hyde

 No.162866

It's sad that those types of people are invading the only places we've had, that's why Christianity appeals to me because atleast I get to fantasise about the cunts burning in fucking hell for eternity even if justice isn't exacted on them in this life

 No.162875

>>162866
You think people are going to be sent to burn in hell for eternity because they took away some nerd's secret hideout spot by using YouTube? That's actually a bit funny.

 No.162938

>>162875
My sides

 No.162958

>>157691
I remember when I first used the internet on my grandmothers windows 95 machine when I was 4. Internet used to be magical and mysterious, but now it just kind of seems boring. I am trying to learn webdev so I can start making my own content and fulfill my own boredom, so maybe you might enjoy that too. If not, I wish you well

 No.163161

life without internet is boring
i tried it for a week and i almost anheroed

 No.163192

The Internet feels so empty nowadays. News websites are repetitive, attention-grabbing clickbait catering to their filter bubbles. The large social media websites, both anonymous and not, seem like they're populated with bots regurgitating the same tired meme formats, and I think it's been proven at this point that most of the content there is either viral marketing or algorithmically generated in some way. Now that companies and governments have realized the value of the Internet, it's become a battleground for ideological and commercial interests, another profit-generating cog in the capitalist machine, with all the humanity stamped out. Obviously there are exceptions, a couple of imageboards still worth visiting once in a while (this being one of them), a couple of content producers that haven't sold out, a handful of smaller venues that still have some life to them in a sea of bullshit.

With the application of behaviorist psychological techniques to the Internet, particularly social media, this technology has become a hollow shell that has reached the point of diminishing or even negative returns, but remains compulsive because of its slot machine-like nature. We can't look away because it's been engineered to be compulsive, and yet there's so little for us here, so we push the lever day after day, with nothing better to do. A life filled with digital distractions, a diet of emotionally-stimulating outrage porn, and lots of actual porn as well.

Like a poster said in a different thread, the Internet seems to have sucked out all the oxygen from the real world, because it's a compelling distraction that allows you to deal with boredom without leaving the comfort of your home, and it was inevitable that at some point even normal people would catch on. However, with all the attention focused on it, this means that the real world is now just as empty as the Internet, so there's not even that much to go back to, if you decide to unplug.

Interesting times…

 No.163193

I am on the fence as to whether I want to start using this site as opposed to 4chan or quit the Internet altogether. I need to find some people with whom to interact in meatspace before my parents die and I am all alone. I think I would rather be a member of society who is universally recognized to be a loser than to withdraw completely and be King of the Virgins in my simulated Internet hugbox.

My main problem is that I am schizo and not a single activity feels worthwhile. I don't really feel like trying to accomplish anything or fit in with others but it seems like the only way to escape delusion.

 No.163217

For me the problem is there's too much info. If you aren't an idiot hoarder like me then you can browse a couple sites and be fine, but when I try to follow curators like HN or news sites for a bit it quickly became an ever growing list of bookmarks that I wasted weekends to see not diminishing. Of course virtually none of that info was valuable enough, but the fun thing with info is you never know about its true value.

A lot of that info is considered by everyone "good" too, so some nonsensical levels of curation feel needed to enjoy it. And of course, if you're a wizard, you feel this tingling displeasure when following other's advice, you're not part of the herd after all. It all gets unnecessarily complex.

 No.163332

>>157733
Very poetic. All my memories are of things that never happened, I miss people I've never met, I'm homesick for places I've never been to.



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