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As the days pass, I'm sure all of us find some conclusions.
To evaluate the things that matter.
Sobering up occasionally to remember this all ends helps frame perspective, centers your focus.

So, what do you think matters in the end, over a lifetime?

I would say health and knowledge.
Most other things seem frivolous and empty.

If you're trying to accomplish an easier tomorrow, nothing matters more than health and knowledge.
I specifically avoided money because it's hard to say whether or not it matters as much as we make it out to matter.
Curious to see if there is anything else missing.


money and health is basically all that matters.


There are several valid perspectives.

In the deepest sense, I believe nothing matters at all. This realisation can free you from anxiety if you truly understand it. So another paradoxical perspective could be that reaching that realisation is what matters most.

To reply more closely to the OP perspective, the thing that preoccupies me most is trying to enjoy life. I think what matters in relation to that is not knowledge; I agree with the other anon that money and health are most important there. Everything is built on that foundation.

If you don't have money then you don't have the freedom to spend your time pursuing knowledge or whatever else you desire, because you will be stuck in the wageslave loop. If you happen to be born with a family or neetbux situation that facilitates comfy neetdom then that is your source of money. Health includes mental health which can be destroyed by lack of money forcing you to live with family or wageslave. The freedom that comes with money can generally also allow you to reflect on your life deeply and stimulate your mind - such that you can realise that you can be happy without relationships etc, or lead you to realise that is what you want if you are more of a normalfag. There is some quote that idleness leads to wisdom but I can't remember it



>>186140 (OP)
Nothing "matters in the end". The realization of this is a radically liberating thought, which frees you from any preconcieved notions of meaning, and then frees you from the very thought "nothing matters" itself. This is because a rejection of everything is analogous to a vacuum, and vacuums get filled. The realization that "nothing matters" is a transformative phase that is in my opinion necessary to achieve individuality. This is because people who have gone through this have an authentic sense of meaning, rather than be given to them by family, society, or biology. Even if this new meaning derived through nihilism is identical to a meaning given by society or biology, this new meaning would still have gone through a kind of baptism of nihilism, and therefore would be authentic

There. One year of my life wasted reading and thinking about nihilism summed up


>what do you think matters in the end
Knowledge > Health > Money
>What counts in the end?


happiness and pursuing things that you enjoy


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God, look at how fucking NORMIE that whole list is. That last one especially, I've heard it repeated everywhere and what the FUCK does that even MEAN?! It comes off to me as some bullshit Victor Franklism.

Remember everyone, happiness is a _choice_! God, what a boomer normie bullshit saying.


Don't check any of those. I guess I'm good to go!


you misunderstand how powerful perspective is.


o ur rite ill just say im happy k im happy now woooow victor frankl ur so amazing


That isn't what this means.


Honestly, I like that saying. You don't have to be a miserable hermit you can choose to be happy and optimist. Even if you internally know it's cope, it works so who cares? Would you rather choose to be grumpy and miserable? Then choose it


Then what the hell does it mean?
The fuck are you talking about? How is there a choice in this?


you are choosing to let the world beat you down instead of raising above petty bullshit


You haven't explained anything. Look, I obviously am pissing you off right now, why don't you just choose to not be mad? Did my post not make you happy? Why don't you just choose for it to make you happy?


I had a fatalistic mindstate for my whole life and coping with optimism and religion has helped a little is all. If it can help someone else then great


After many horrible events - I wouldn't know what you've dealt with, and I'll assume they're severe - after so many events, there is one choice you can make.

You can let those horrible events/people continue to take more of your life, or you push forward and not let them take one more hour.
This is just one decision down a matrix of more, but I would label this one as a focal point.

What you proposed to who you replied to is (ironically) correct: the poster can choose not to be mad because he can make the above decision: not let you take one more minute from him.

It's not about just controlling emotions, it's the decisions you make. Implicitly, like when you decide to give thought to people, as well as explicit actions, such as no longer replying to you. Most decisions begin from that implicit beginning (where to put your focus and how to achieve what you're focusing on)

However justified you feel in being a victim, as long as you continue to identify as a victim, then you have no recourse. You're just stuck here to suffer.


>trying to enjoy life
When "enjoyment" becomes an external state one must acquire, then ceaselessly will one work to acquire that which can be implicit.


The idea that nihilism is a rebirth of an individual is an interesting idea.
I would suggest that an individual may metamorphose not just by shedding all things before the critical moment, but make sure they're discarded. As many will instead pick up the same scraps of broken ideology since we're wont to make do with what we got


It does feel liberating when you state it outright
It's interesting how vague this word becomes
Interesting pic, although I wonder how 4 appeared on that list: at what point does someone stop being a friend? I would say quicker than you think


It’s interesting how vague all human emotions are. I mean really think about what emotions are. A mental state? A chemical in the brain? A reaction to a stimulus? Are they the thoughts themselves or just the frame in which the thought is processed?


Happiness is a choice, ergo, I don't have to give a shit about anyone who is miserable. Starving children? Fuck off biatch, deal with it yourself. Just choose to be happy


Unironically yes


One theory is that emotions are the proverbial carrot stick from our subconscious (which origins are unknown) to make us donkeys do what it wants.

Another idea would be to see it as a differential between a desired state and where you are.
You can effectively squash this differential by prudently choosing the correct moves.
For example, one may feel frustrated by misunderstandings when talking with family, friends.
Instead of dwelling upon it, you can act away the frustration:
a) work on your way to convey
b) realize your communication is fruitless
With either choice done, the emotion falls away

I will admit some emotions linger, perhaps because the solution is less than ideal, or maybe it isn't immediately obvious.
Many, for example, would mourn their poverty, and rightfully so.
But as the content of this thread unfolds, you can begin to see that which isn't immediately obvious nor contemplated all too often.

Here's a short story (which I believe was shared here) to convey what I mean:

Alexander, after conquering many kingdoms, was returning home. On the
way, he fell ill and it took him to his death bed. With death staring
him in his face, Alexander realized how his conquests, his great army,
his sharp sword and all his wealth were of no use.

"My first desire is that", said Alexander, "My physicians alone must
carry my coffin." After a pause, he continued, "Secondly, I desire
that when my coffin is being carried to the grave, the path leading to
the graveyard be strewn with gold, silver and precious stones which I
have collected in my treasury". The king felt exhausted after saying
this. He took a minute's rest and continued. "My third and last wish is
that both my hands be kept dangling out of my coffin”.

The people who had gathered there wondered at the king's strange
wishes. But no one dared bring the question to their lips. Alexander's
favorite general kissed his hand and pressed them to his heart. "O
king, we assure you that all your wishes will be fulfilled. But tell
us why do you make such strange wishes?" At this Alexander took a deep
breath and said: “I would like the world to know of the three lessons
I have just learnt.

I want my physicians to carry my coffin because people should realize
that no doctor on this earth can really cure anybody. They are
powerless and cannot save a person from the clutches of death. So let
not people take life for granted.

The second wish of strewing gold, silver and other riches on the path
to the graveyard is to tell people that Not even a fraction of gold
will come with me. I spent all my life with the greed for power,
earning riches but cannot take anything with me. Let people realize
that it is a sheer waste of time to chase wealth.

And about my third wish of having my hands dangling out of the coffin,
I wish my people to know that I came empty handed into this world and
empty handed I go out of this world”. With these words, the king
closed his eyes. Soon he let death conquer him and breathed his last.

Correct. Why care of things you aren't going to do anything about?
Choose and be done with it


Emotions being a “motivator” of sorts answers more of why do we have emotions and less what are they. Now suggesting they are produced by the sub/unconscious mind gets us possibly closer to an answer, but we don’t know what the unconscious is either.

When I say what is an emotion I mean really what is the emotion itself. If I tell you I was mad, everyone will know what I meant yet no one can tell you what anger is. It’s a feeling of aggression, but what is a feeling? Humans have feelings, but we often think of them as separate from “us”. We can become overcome by emotions, against our will even. We can somehow transmit our emotions to each other verbally and through other subtle signals like body language.

I’m getting kind of off topic but my point is that when people want to be happy, then we ask what is happiness and people answer instead how to achieve happiness. If we want to achieve happiness, or just peace of mind (which is also an emotion), then we need to know it is. If emotions are a chemical, then we can achieve it though chemicals like drugs and antidepressants. If emotions are thoughts, then we can achieve happiness through thinking. If happiness is not our thoughts but the perspective which we think in, then we must change not our thoughts but the angle with which we view our thoughts/ the world.


Forgot to add, if emotions are simply reactions to the world, then we need to change our environment to achieve happiness.


> If happiness is not our thoughts but the perspective which we think in, then we must change not our thoughts but the angle with which we view our thoughts/ the world.
personally this has helped the most for feeling most at ease. It does not mean I am happy but I am far better off than someone else in the same situation




Creating progeny. Ironic because you guys are all too bluepilled to realize this. crabs in denial.


So what are you then, just a regular crab?


Progeny is just as material and ephemeral as money and every other thing listed as not mattering ITT. So what if you shit out a kid? Billions of other humans have. Oh it has your genes? Wow! No one cares. Look at all the people that hate their family, or that have willingly discarded their family. The only thing you could say that matters about having a child is the personal satisfaction in raising something, in this case a human. But again, tons of parents hate their kids and abuse/neglect them.


mind so low the gutters were built over it


I don't understand. The rejection of all meaning imposed by outside sources also implies a rejection of ideology.


The way I see it, feelings are the lowest-level reaction the brain has to a stimulus. A stimulus can come from the senses or from thoughts, which are influenced by both feelings and the senses, so thinking about something can influence your feelings. It's a constant feedback loop which is partly influenced by the world around us, and partly by our conscious thoughts. All emotions have a biological reason to exist. Take fear for instance, if something terrifies you, you end up reacting to it much faster than if you took time to think about it rationally (fight or flight response). It makes biological sense that the brain would have some mechanism to ensure rapid response to danger. Joy and pleasure have the purpose of reinforcing a person's desire to do something they enjoyed the first time again. Love, in it's most general sense, results in the formation of the family unit and allows for a cohesive group (a tribe or community) to form, assuring survival of the species. But that's still mostly "why" and not "what." Emotional responses occur in the brain's limbic system, which is at the center, near the brain stem. It's hard to really say what an emotion is because, as far as I know, nobody really understands how the complex chemical reactions in the brain get turned into conscious experiences. Perhaps it is simply outside the scope of current human knowledge.

As far as being overcome by emotion goes, it sometimes makes sense that the brain would subdue reason for the sake of acting quickly and with conviction, or to share emotion with others via empathy (why its hard to stop crying). Emotions can also act as the fruits of the labor which is thinking by providing us with the motivation to do something after reaching a satisfying logical conclusion. Transmitting emotions is simply the lowest-level form of communication. It is done instinctively among social animals, like ourselves, and can be understood even across wildly different species. You probably clench your fists without consciously thinking about it if you get angry, and you might make an angry sound analogous to a dog's growl. I think some emotional responses can be likened to a computer program where certain sections of the code are run only when a variable increases past a certain value, with the variable being emotion. These sections of code would be like the "firmware" of our minds, which reacts to things instinctively and is difficult to change. A person acting on emotion is so easily identifiable because social animals must be in tune with emotions and their associated responses to function in their environment. We recognize them intuitively because emotional responses are hardwired into our brains, but we are definitely capable of learning new ones. I do not think our emotions should be considered separate from what we call "us." If you had no emotions, your experience would be very lacking, would it not?

When people talk about "finding happiness" and such, they usually mean feeling content by default. A constant feeling of happiness would be very unnatural. It is possible to obtain the emotion of happiness in the short-term by using chemical substances, listening to music, or even just eating very tasty food. I think the issue with chasing after a particular emotion is that emotions are not meant to be stable. We need both highs and lows to feel that our experiences have depth. Any good story has both. Emotions come both from external stimuli and from our thoughts. It is probably not possible for most people to be happy while being flogged, but I imagine I could probably still enjoy daydreaming if I was in solitary confinement. Daydreaming is a good example of using your conscious thoughts to influence emotions. Thoughts can be perfectly good stimuli, but that only works as long as sensory stimuli don't cause an emotional override of your conscious thought processes. I guess what I'm getting at is that you can't totally attribute emotions to any one factor. You bring up a good point about perspective in the last sentence of your post. I think perspective is not just how senses are interpreted, but also like a function that defines the feedback between thoughts and emotions. Just think of the radically different feelings people have toward different philosophical or political ideas (transmitted thoughts). All a matter of perspective. Changing your perspective can be hard, though. It's one of the fundamental things that makes you who you are.


health, basic living standards (if you live in a first world country you're already given this), knowledge


Looking back having those would be enough to lead a better life for me.


Well nothing matters at the end, unless your will has been materialized by your actions and it made a impact that lasts.

Health? No, you lose it way before the end. Wealth? You lose that too, you die.
The final words of general de Gaulle were:
- Everything I did was a hole in the sea - meaning everything he has done was for noting.


Human beings have an immaterial core though, majority of them just don't realise it


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>flagellating yourself over things you had no control of or are vague and retarded enough to never be achievable


To do or make something great.


Honestly had to laugh at all the idiots here who said nothing matters. Okay, then let me take your laptop and all your money and your home too while I am at it and let me torture you for fun, surely you don't have any objections, after all nothing matters?

The "nothin matterz lol" nihilistic mindset is just a cope, invented by people who can't get objectively good things like wealth, health or pleasure, etc. There ARE things that matter for everyone in life, sorry, that is the reality.

What matters in the end is whether you enjoyed life or not. That's it. Anybody who says otherwise is coping. In this case too, the obvious answer is the good answer.


"I specifically avoided money because it's hard to say whether or not it matters as much as we make it out to matter."

bonafide retard thread.
you know how many fat people there'd be if everyone in the world could afford fitness trainers, surgeries and healthy food? zero.
you know how many dental problems there'd be in the world if everyone in the world could afford a dentist? zero.

i hate you fake schizophrenics LARPing as your hero terry a. davis and ted k. so much. i bet you haven't even read ted's books lol.
hope you die, OP. you and every other fake schizo pretending to be enlightened on this site.


materialist asshurt not everyone is as shallow as him


"wow you don't want to die of tooth infection? heh, materialist normalfag… when will they learn"


This isn't the 1700s no one is dying of tooth infections


>you know how many fat people there'd be if everyone in the world could afford fitness trainers, surgeries and healthy food? zero.
it doesn't work like that, my good friend. Rich kids from rich families often times end up obese and have all the money to afford those things.


You should push your chair back and sincerely contemplate death; that's why I said it doesn't matter as much as you think.
Good luck, hope you feel better


how about i consider how im homeless from no money in the immediate instead of after im dead


money, at least enough to live comfortably, i work and it is pure hell

after i would say knowledge


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In the end, when you're a corpse, nothing matters. While you're alive what matters is identical to what you value and what you value depends on who you are. To the weak, what matters is humility. To the mediocre, what matters is conformity. To the strong, what matters is power. To the intelligent, what matters is knowledge. To the beautiful, what matters is appearances. To the promiscuous, what matters is sexual pleasure. To the wizard what matters? Comfort, freedom from obligation, grace in isolation seem to be running themes over these years. We all exalt ourselves by what we value and belittle those "copers" whose values are orthogonal to our own, in pantomime of this world's omnipresent struggle. Values, meaning, what counts, are all side effects of consciousness. Without life there is no "counts"; our confusions and conflicts over what is objectively true stem from our human condition. We are so similar as to have a common experiential ground, yet different enough in our curses and blessings and the value systems entailed by them, that our relations are tainted by a kind of uncanny valley effect.

Anyway, what counts to me is working up the courage to walk free someday. I'm not cut out for this sadomasochistic roleplay we call modern society.


If happiness is a mere choice, what's even the point of regretting anything at all?


If you made the wrong choices, for one.


"Wrong", here, being entirely dictated by the perspective you choose to assume.
I'm not saying there's no value in being unhappy, but the line of thinking of "I regret not choosing to be happy" is just a perfomative contradiction.


race and anti racist bernds aren't like, because anti-racist people deny biological reality. you are anti-science if you think race is irrelevant for behavioral outcomes in individuals or groups it's predictive

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You're missing the point


Material does not matter. The spirit in you're body does


You're going to have to expand on that, given that nobody has even the faintest idea what the fuck you mean by "spirit"


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Having a reasonable justification for your suffering > bringing relief to others in need > having people that genuinely care about you > comfort > everything else


is that actually what haibane renmei looks like? looks like some filter has been applied.


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Might be because a different cell inking method was used, one that produces translucent lines. It helps to integrate the characters in to the painted background. If not, then know that Haibane Ranmei's 1080p BR release was upscaled from a source larger than DVD quality but smaller than 720p, so there's going to be sampling artifacts, especially so as the BR was released over 10 years ago before commercial AI upscaling. That screenshot might even be from an AI upscale of the 720p version done by a dubbing agency or by a network for a re-broadcasting. Attached Merlin was upscaled with a better system, so while there is artifcating (neighboring colours "ramping" in to each other, varying line opacity) it doesn't produce the mirror lens bokeh look where the centres of the lines are less opaque than the edges. It looks a bit like a painting in motion with the little inconsistencies between frames.

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