This site is really depressing, its users are depressing, and in general everything is bad here. I think this makes men who do not have sexual relations, nor who focus on succubi, look bad, since the first thing someone outside will read will be threads of misfortune and misery. So I ask you, have you never tried to improve and improve?
improve? holy shit we never thought of that. all these years hating normos and acting like evil cartoonish goons, when all we could have done was just… IMPROVE!!!!!!
nigga, most of us got incurable autism and/or severe personality disorders. we can barely hold down a job without getting fired for not being a team player (too quiet). shit, i can't even get a job in the first place because becky from HR has the non-team player detector and she sees right through me haha
if you think this place is depressing, that's the fucking point you stupid normalfag cunt. this is the only place where you can go and talk about being a subhuman piece of shit and have someone honestly relate.
also no one on this site cares about getting laid. most of us have given up on the concept entirely because a relationship of any kind just wouldn't work even if we somehow managed to IMPROOOOOVE enough to meet the minimal requirements to be some whore's beta provider.
Stupid take, just looks to better Yi life inside of your circumstances, it's stupid to fuck your life up even more, case example is a NEET that take care of his body, instead of just rotmaxxing and destroy himself, learn to see the nuance of life, dumb NIGGERS
>>219007 Self-improverbrahs are just crabs-in-denial. These are the guys who still have normies and mgtow as friends either online or offline and take their advice and repeat it here.
Only found 1 thing that does anything for me. Semen retention. I become a charming guy seems like. But what do I do with it? I'm still an alien that doesn't fit in out there, but now I'm a charming ayy
The crab in the bucket mentality sort of makes it so sharing positives are highly discouraged since you are just opening yourself up to relentless attack and trolling from someone who is bitter about you enjoying something in life.
As far as "improve". That means something different to a wizard than a normie. My version of improving is improving in my chosen hobbies, making my life more comfortable, and staying reasonably healthy since if I get too sick to care for myself then it's basically game over.
To a normie improvement seems to be centered around making themselves a better prospect for mates to improve their chances of breeding healthy well supplied offspring.
I just do my own thing, man. It's why I originally came here. I'd hoped it would be a bunch of us just doing our own thing and not being consumed by this desire to chase succubi who weren't interested in us. Early on, this place felt like a really interesting place full of friendly people who weren't obsessed with "that feel when no gf" and it was nice. I think /hob/ is the only board that still kind of has that feeling, but it's quite slow. /wiz/ is in a weird place; the crab bucket shit has always been a thing but I guess it's escalated a bit. /dep/ has always been sad but that's the point of it. I don't know man.
Anyway, I try to run 3 miles every other day and I'm learning skills that I think are important like lifesaving medic shit. Took a basic life support course the other day and learned how to do CPR and save a choking victim. Feels good, man.
>>219003 i know this post is fake, off topic, i will just say that letting succubi do these HR jobs is complete insanity. You are 19 year old, fresh out of high school, you just want to get some job to sustain yourself but keep encounering these HR succubi..I have been there.. Im not saying succubi should not have rights , etc, but letting succubus decide some mans fate, based on her logic is just too much. Of course this is companys business.. if they want HR or not…I wonder what are benefits of HR for company, why CEOs want this. I guess HR is make-work for succubi in some corporations, not every company has HR. The one where i work doesnt. I think this exists as part of mockery of males,
>>219172 Yeah I was thinking about why I felt miserable over the past few days, and it is because of wizchan. I was feeling fine until I decided to visit this shithole again. Shut down the website already, wizmin
>>219000 >since the first thing someone outside will read will be threads of misfortune and misery Don't care about what some normie cogs thinks. 90% of them are shitty people anyway, in one way or other. out do them? they try to drag you down. under perform? they treat you less than human and act superior. no reason to care for these people >So I ask you, have you never tried to improve and improve? those who are improving are probably not the ones who post depressing shit. I just thought this place was for people to vent their grief with society. People post depressing shit like they genuinely don't want you to try to improve, just telling you it's pointless. >you are a fatso in you 30s? bro don't try to lose weight, you are pass your 20s, there is no point now just keep living like a fatso yeah it's not like being a 30-something fatty is much more suffering than being a 30-something fit guy. it's like they wallow in their misery or want more people to be in the same situation as them so they don't have to feel bad about it and DO SOMETHING! Even if some might have deformities, subpar IQ, health issues or whatever that could prevent them from improving their lives. It's still scummy of them to try to drag others down. that is normie behavior!
>>219000 I wish the internet had a community which: >forbid any sort of normalfag behavior like gossip, flame wars, bullying, status, hierarchy >disallow any rants AGAINST normalfags (because it's the same shit, different flavor) >0 (ZERO!) talk about sex, succubi, masturbation (even criticism) >encourage ONLY the free discussion of ideas But I've looked for this for so long and found nothing so far.
>>219006 That's completely untrue. Normalfags have mental health issues, addictions, fights, conflict, mass chimpouts (wars) etc.
>>219007 You are correct, anon, but helping autists is harder than it seems. On top of being frustrated, they're bitter and resentful, so patience has to come in spades to help them
>>219000 Seriouly OP, what you mean by improving? Most people here just don't care about the standards of suckcess everybody else is after, not because they are or think they are better or anything. It just doenst matter anymore.
>>219000 The reason this place is depressing is because the people here are blackpilled, they know the truth, now they are trying to bluepill themselves and of course once you know the truth you can't un-know it. The thing is majority of wizards here would be happy if they got into a relationship but they are basically MSTOW. And also the number of users here is very less and surprisingly some of them are white, i say surprisingly cause JBW.
So that is the unfortunate truth really. People here have been sent their own way and now they are trying to embrace it but they can't because society, their looks, and their environment has dictated otherwise.
I tried to improve anon. In many ways I did make myself better but for the most part I pissed away my youth trying to fix myself. I thought if I put in the effort, went to therapy and did the whole "look within yourself" sort of bullshit I'd figure it out and be normal.
I really wish I hadn't. Just before hitting wizard status I had this horrific drug experience where I realized I had completely lost who I was… and that at that point I had no clue who "I" really was. Because any time I vented or caused a stir I got talked down to and told to improve myself.
When people pull the "improov" bullshit I can't help but feel resentful. Like, holy fuck, go outside. Your average everyday norman isn't this great interesting person or upstanding moral individual. They just live their life and have a society they fit into. Maybe they up their style a little bit or pick up an instrument but this idea retards on the internet keep peddling about self improvement as some mystical journey everyone does is just a passive aggressive way of saying you aren't good enough and you aren't fine as you are.
I regret the time I spent doing it. My life would be better if I put time into my hobbies instead. I didn't need self improvement. I needed people and a society that cared about me despite being an anxious spergy mess.
>>220697 >just a passive aggressive way of saying you aren't good enough and you aren't fine as you are. Except in the absolute worst of places online, the only times guys are told to "self improve" are after they've poured their heart out over how they themselves don't feel up to their own standards - how they're unsatisfied with who they are themselves regardless of other people's opinions on them. In this case, no, they aren't fine as they are. No man should have to play as a class he didn't chose, so if he can change it, then by all means tell him how. >My life would be better if I put time into my hobbies instead If the kind of self improvement you were doing didn't involve your personal hobbies and interests throughout all of it, then it wasn't "self" improvement - it was social improvement; conditionng yourself to be an integrated cog in the societal machine as per the standards laid before you by others. And this is why you shouldn't be angry when you see men suggesting self improvement among themselves, because most of the time they don't mean "learn to socialize, pay taxes, pick up chicks, and have a firm handshake". They really just mean find something you enjoy doing, do it, and get your body and mind healthy enough to keep doing for as long and as good as you possibly can.
>>219000 This place is depressing because it's full of rants about normies and succubi. People experience real stress and anxiety from going outside, and the rants are their way of releasing that pressure.
Self-improvement is not the solution to this because it would only put you a bit higher in social status, but anon would still compare himself to other people. The key is self-acceptance and admitting before yourself that you are comfortable living as you do.
>>220684 I don't think the average wizard here is trying to revert back to being oblivious and bluepilled.
If anything, the general consensus is either desperation or accepting the awful circumstances that led to the birth of a wizard.
And like you said it was predetermined genetically, so no point to go mad over it. It's just a bad draw of cards, an unlucky situation in nature. Someone statistically has to bear that load of grinding through an unlucky life and this time it was us.
>>220697 Atleast for me personally the best way to actually improve is to just improve at a hobby. Your will naturally improve just to get better at the thing. Tried doing the normie youtube recommandation feed self improvement stuff and got stuck in a loop for like 4 years before just shutting all the self improvement content noise and figuring out what works for me.
Maybe those foundational mainstream self improvement books are atleast mildly helpful but fuck if I know… haven't read them beyond some of atomic habits.
Might not work for all the wizards out here but worked for me (I might have aspergers and/or some form of ADHD, no formal Dx tho)
>>219000 It's mods. they delete every useful thing, comment, file, any joy while promoting fap and suicide threads.
I sometimes think about starting something else elsewhere but, how many would follow? They do not even look for solutions, just circlejerk. There is always, too, a crab around here throwing shit to everything of value. What normies do is to deeply hide their miseries and swallow them (and they are better built for this than us, curiously) to not look weak or weird.
Today my aura was pretty clean, no uncomfyness, no bad thoughts, low self-awareness. Could it be my gooning? But I don't really know. My mind decided to not torture me today ¿¿¿¿???? about improvement, I only care about aging and not having muscle, which I do poorly since my gear is not complete.
In case you be a normie, I tell you my case: I don't sozialize bcos people is exhausting, demanding and neglective and waman are spoiled with the force of centuries of men spoiling them in the worst ways.
>>219006 The correct way of approaching them is avoidance or rather shaming tactics. Not complaints.
Many of us would do fine if trying to meet some autistic association to try they'd help him to get neetbux.
Because surprise surprise being alone is misery despite what the most damaged introverted person might tell you, the point of life is other people and the only time humans were ever alone was to go in the woods and die.
>>222234 more semantics, not going to start spouting crab speak but generally once you pass a certain age and are still a virgin thats your perception by society
>>222237 It isn't, but he's right in saying it's the mainstream opinion. They even made a popular comedy about it (the 42 year old virgin) because the idea was so unfathomable to them.
>>222239 >A shitty old movie is a sad thing to base your life on where'd you got this idea from >>222236 not saying this, all im saying is that the main userbase of this site are deemed losers/virgin, so why would a non virgin/loser come here
>>222235 More projection and argumentum ad populum. The fact remains, just because someone is a virgin doesn't mean they are a loser. Just like someone who is a loser doesn't mean they are a virgin.
You are conflating two things that don't actually have anything to do with each other.
i don't find it that depressing. People here speak the truth and are closer to reality, maybe their perspective on reality but it's still valid. Life can be rough.
>>219000 >everything is bad here Normal society is the most depressing (suppressing) because anything bad is not allowed to be voiced. Your need for optimism proves that life in normal society is inherently not good. If life in normal society is good as it is then you wouldn't have any need to change it. You wouldn't have any need for sugar, caffeine, masturbation, meditation, working out, looking forward to the weekend, books, movies, games, sports, music, art, science, technology or anything that alters consciousness, increases pleasure, distract you from reality or make your life more comfortable in some way. You need all those things because just being alive in current normal society is not bearable without adding all sorts of things to it. Your deeply denial of this fact and your lashing out against those who point out the truth.
>>223346 >You wouldn't have any need for sugar, caffeine, masturbation, meditation, working out, looking forward to the weekend, books, movies, games, sports, music, art, science, technology or anything that alters consciousness, increases pleasure, distract you from reality or make your life more comfortable in some way. You made me realize how much of the things I do every day are a reaction to this unhealthy way of life. Sugar and caffeine to be more productive because work and life in general demands way more work than it should. Working out to make up for lack of physical activity, or physical work that puts strain on the joints. Can only enjoy life on weekends because work drains all energy. Entertainment to release the tension of working like a mindless drone. Technology to drive me to work faster, and medicine to suppress the consequences of living like this. None of it would be necessary if life wasn't so competitive. There are only rat race and poverty level jobs, with nothing in between. I wish I could work 4 hours a day.
Checked? This is not a subject for everyone it seems, unwanted virginity in adulthood isn't the norm and so this is going to carry a lot of misery in it's discussion. It's built in.
I've personally gotten so used to it.
I've been trying my whole life to "improve" but I found that the metrics keep changing, the goalposts keep shifting and life is very much a rigged game against anyone who is not good looking enough.
>>223373 >Checked? This is not a subject for everyone it seems, unwanted virginity in adulthood isn't the norm and so this is going to carry a lot of misery in it's discussion. It's built in. >so used to it
erm… r u a crab?
we wizards kinda grew up virgins. Normies would label us as this or that, never realizinh we're not into hot normie stuff.
>>219000 >if you think this place is depressing, that's the fucking point you stupid normalfag cunt. this is the only place where you can go and talk about being a subhuman piece of shit and have someone honestly relate. If this is what it means to be a wizard then fuck that. Dark is a humor too.
This place isn't alive because outsider memes are banned, no room to twist, evolve and turn.
>>225671 >practically none of us here are neurotypicals. Were does this delusion stem from? Did an ad-laden free online test affirm that you're a special snowflake NEURODIVERGENT and now you assume that everyone else who uses the same basket weaving forum as you must also be this same genre of special boy? Most people here seem normal with their only "divergence" being their decision to not kiss highscool succubi.
In the same lane - only being able to handle a "the only guy at the facility at the time" type of job
no colleagues homeschooled only one boss, e.g. there's no bunch of corporate squeakies looking over my shoulder writting down "subject WIZ412D is displaying a drop of efficincy of 1% which is undermining…"
no subordinates
can have a cozy time at jerb
can find some time to phone utility company to ask what kind of prank have they pulled out